October 9, 2024 • 19 mins
Dan Dibley joins the shows to look at tomorrow's TNF game. Is it a more important game for the Seahawks or Niners? Does he think that Christian McCaffrey will play at all this season. Both teams are facing injuries that could dramatically impact tomorrow's game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, all right, joining us right now on the
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radio show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
When you think about a forty Niner reporter, a Bay
Area angle on this game.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Mitchell had a boy. There's only one man that we
think of. That man, though, is on the air tomorrow
with us in Bonta Hill. Today, we have Dan Dibley,
one of his teammates from the game in the Bay Area. Daniel,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Not great? After that intro? To be honest, you know
you figure a guy like me. You know, you and
I go back about two decades, and you're gonna do
me like that. You're gonna sun me and you're gonna
put Bonte in the top spot and put me in
the two hole.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Listen, it hurts softy, I'll be honest. Bonta told me
to say that about you.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
He's that intimidated by you that he needs to have
affirmation from his people up in Seattle. You you're a confident
young man. You don't need that kind of thing throwing
your way.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So just remember that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
All right, you should take pity on Bonta Hill for
God's sakes. Well, how about this game tomorrow? Is this
a bigger game for you? If your team or a
bigger game for our team.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
What do you think, Oh, it's a bigger game for
our team, because I think that our team here still
has designs on being something not that Seattle at three
and two is, you know, one loss away from packing
it in. But we've been saying around here all off
season it's super Bowl or bust. And you got Brock
Purdy who eventually is going to be the highest paid
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quarterback in football, which means you're not going to have
all these shiny objects around him sooner rather than later.
So the super Bowl window doesn't close when brockets paid,
but it does as far as having all these other
players around him. So there's a certain amount of urgency.
And when you start two and three, when you spit
up all over yourself against Arizona and you back one
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away against the Rams, you can't afford to go oh
and three in the division and oher and four in
the conference. Right, it's not a must win, but it's
a pretty damn big game here, guys.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So what hasn't worked this year?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Because perty's not getting paid yet, so we can't use
that as an excuse yet. So has it been more
the injuries and just not been able to put a
healthy team on the field, particularly on offense. Or is
this really do you see a closing of the window
of an aging football team when you watch them?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, honestly, and I don't want to file this under
the excuse ledger, but not having Christian McCaffrey's been a
big deal. And it's been a big deal in one
real area, and that's the red zone. Guys. Last year,
the Niners were number one in football in the red zone.
This year they're number thirty. And you don't win games
with field goals. You don't make friends with salad. As
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Lisa Simpsons famously said in that Simpsons episode, you gotta
get touchdowns if you're going to be a winning team,
and this team hasn't been able to do it. And
then you add in last week where the field goal
kicker decided that he was the ghost of Dick Butkus
and ended up breaking his ankle, so they didn't have
a field goal kicker in the second half. So you
get in the red zone and you can't even get three.
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That's been the biggest issue with this team. You get
down in the deep red zone and you can't score touchdowns,
and that just doesn't get it done. You let these
teams hang around and then you find your way to
fumble at the eight and you lose to a bad
Arizona team.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, I mean the McCaffrey thing is legit. I mean,
as much as we like to clown on the Niners
and all that stuff, not having maybe the most versatile
offensive weapon.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
In the NFL is a big damn deal.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I mean, the guy last year at three hundred and
thirty nine touches, for God's sakes, running the ball and
catching the ball. So when we hear he's going to
Yermany that that doesn't sound good, man. I mean, are
we gonna see this kid at all this year?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I wouldn't be surprised if you don't see him at all.
Now this is not a sourced report, This is just
my opinion. But you're right, softy, when when you go
to Germany to get that special good good in the needle,
because they can spin your blood like we can't spin
it here in the States. And he came back and
we found out that he has bilateral achilles tendonitis, which
means both of the achilles are beset by tendonitis. And
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so the guy's been shut down. I would not expect
to see him for at least a month, and even
when he does come back, you'd imagine him on a
pitch count. But I honestly, guys, wouldn't be that stunned
if you didn't see him at all until December, if
not later.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
How about the rest of the injuries for the team.
I saw where Charveri's Ward might not play on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
What are you hearing there?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He's been kind of banged up all year, and even
though he's been out there for the majority of snaps,
he has not been himself. Guys. He was the number
one shut down corner for this team a year ago
and this year he's been victimized a little bit and
the secondary has not been helped by a pretty flaccid
and I know that's a dangerous word, but the pass
rush has been very flaccid this year, and when you
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don't have a good pass rush, it exposes the secondary.
So Mooney Ward likely will play, but he's been dealing
with a knee and I think he had a groin
and maybe an ain't going a hammy. I can't even
run through the whole litany of injuries, but he has
not been healthy. Talanoa Hufonga, the hard hitting safety, he's
not gonna play. So it's really the it's the kids
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back there. You got Ernardo Green, who is a top
draft pick this past year. You got Jayra Brown who's
going to play for Hufonga. But it's it's a pretty
young and inexperienced secondary outside of Mooney Ward and Diabodo Lenoro,
who has been great.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
All right, So Dan Dedley with us from the game
the pirate are I mean, outside of not being as
smart ass, which I am as smart as what is
what are the Niners.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Good at right now?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
What are they e lead at right now that I
should be concerned about tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, it's that laminated play sheet that Kyle Shanahan holds
and that really is the difference maker and everything. And also,
guys put some respect on Jordan Mason's name. And this
I think goes to the Shanahan scheme and the Shanahan
system because Jordan Mason is an undrafted player who basically
was a nobody until this year and now he's what
the second leading rusher and all of football. And they
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still do have Trent Williams at left tackle, who's an
absolute force in the run game. And I look at
the Seattle run defense and I've got questions about their
ability to stop San Francisco. So I think that in
this game, what it comes down to is Shanahan reverting
to his happy place, which is counting the rock. And
so that's one thing that they still have been able
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to do pretty well. And brock Purty, guys, say what
you want about where he was drafted. We call it draftism.
On our show, my partner coined that he's an elite quarterback.
So offensively, this is still a juggernaut of an offense.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So being an elite quarterback, I would assume that all
forty nine er fans want to pay him fifty plus
million dollars beginning next year.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Is that the case.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
No, it's not the case, Dick, And you know how
fans are. And by the way, that number is actually
going to be sixty if you look at where the
market's going to be, and you know a lot of
that is because fans still, some fans here still don't
believe that he's the kind of guy who can take
a team on his shoulders and elevate you and lead
you to victory. But all he's done is be successful
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in the playoffs in the regular season, and I look
at the game last year against Green Bay in the
playoffs where they needed drive with six minutes left and
he let him on the drive and they won the game.
So fans for the most part are now sold on
Brock Purdy. But still people are having some sticker shock
at the fact that it's probably gonna take sixty million.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Per Well, but you mentioned guys like Jordan Mason and
what the scheme does for a guy like him. You
had a guy that won a lot of football games.
And I'm not saying Jimmy Garoppolo is as good as
Rock Purdy. I don't think he is as a good
at Rock Party. But you had a guy like Jimmy
Garoppolo win a lot of games because of Kyle Shannahan.
Isn't there a thought that, hey, you can find somebody.
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Look at all these teams pulling Baker Mayfield's Gino Smithson,
Sam Darnold's out of hats and winning. Couldn't Kyle Shanahan
do that with a twenty five million dollar quarterback someplace?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
He could? But the difference is that Brock Purty sees
it and he sees it the way that Kyle sees it,
and you know, he gets to the line of scrimmage
and you guys are going to get a good look
at it tomorrow night. But his ability to decipher and
make decisions in real time in a split second, that
is his elite skill. And you know, you think about
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Tom Brady all those years ago and what he was
able to do. Similarly, I'm not saying that brock Purty's
going to have a Tom Brady career, but look at
Tom Brady's first twenty five games and compare those to
brock Purty's first twenty five games. Purty's got better numbers,
better winning percentage, better touchdown interception ratio, and all the
rest of it. The guy just sees it. He doesn't
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have elite arm talent. He doesn't have any elite skill
other than his ability to look at a defense, decipher
what's going on, and usually make the right play.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, I mean it does seem like a lot of money, right,
no doubt, But then again, the Cowboys are paying Dak Prescott,
the Jaguars are paying Trevor Lawrence, the Giants are paying
Daniel Jones forty million, dollars and most of them are
getting nothing from those guys. So I just don't know. Guys,
at some point there's going to be a team that
says no thanks. But nobody's been that guinea pig yet.
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And I don't think it's going to happen in San Francisco.
So you think they re sign him to a big
deal over the offseason.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I do. And think about what the Browns did to
that cardboard cutout of a quarterback to Sean Watson. They
gave him guaranteed money. And I'll say it, I'll say
it on your show. I said it on my show.
He stinks he cannot play quarterback. He is terrible. And so, yeah,
Brock is eligible for an extension. They're gonna give it
to him. The owner has already come on record and said, yeah,
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whatever he wants, he's going to reset the market. And
the owner usually doesn't come out and says that and
say that unless he's totally sold on that as a reality.
And you know, at that point, it's gonna be up
to John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan to successfully draft around him.
And look at what Green Bay's done, guys with Wix
and all the other young players, and you know Jayden
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Reid and all the draft capital they've allocated around their
high priced quarterback. That I think is going to be
the new way to do it. Not paying receivers a boatload.
Although Brandon Ayukuz making thirty million, they're gonna have to
deal with him and Debo in the offseason, right, But
you pay the quarterback and then you try to find
cheap labor around him.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Dan Dibley from the game in San Francisco with us
on the air Niner Seahawks tomorrow, So you know about
the injury report for you guys, Kittle Warner are off
the report.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Are they totally healthy? Are they playing dinged up?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
What do you think the real status is for those
two big dogs tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well, Warner played a little bit hurt last game. He
had the ankle. Fred Warner doesn't miss games. Fred Warner
is one of the greatest linebackers I've ever seen. But honestly,
he'll probably be playing at about seventy percent with the ankle.
He's going to play, but he's going to be a
little bit limited. I don't see any illness or any
injury with George Kittle. He should be good to go,
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and aside from that, the Niners are mostly healthy. They
do have a new kicker in town. We're trying to
do a little bit of a get to know you
time with the kicker. But by and large, the Niners
have no excuses. Guys, both teams on a short week.
The Niners have been without CMC, so you can't use
that as an excuse. And honestly, they should be four
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and one if they didn't gack away a couple of
these games. So the Niners for the most part, are
intact and they should be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
What type of game you think we're gonna see?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Because usually this game goes under the total and this
is the highest total I've seen for this game in
a long time. It's almost fifty. Is that just because
of the defensive injuries? I mean, what do you see?
It just seems way high for me.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think that normally they would be more of a
typical slobber knocker. But based on what you guys did
last weekend where you all but told your star running back,
no thanks, we don't need you five carries for Walker,
I don't know what the story was there, but it
looks like you guys are falling in love with the pass,
and the forty nine ers will let Rock Purdy air
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it out some, so this one might turn into more
of a passing affair. But honestly, I like the under
on that total because I do think that this is
going to be a Jordan Mason game. He only carried
it four teen times on Sunday in the lost to Arizona.
I think that they're going to lean on Jordan Mason,
the two hundred and twenty five pounder, and let him
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just try to pound this thing out. And so I
like a lower scoring game than the total.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, keep thinking the Hawks are a passing team, pal,
and they run the ball fifty times tomorrow. Just come
out of number boom right down your throat. They might
run it twice on one play tomorrow night. By the way,
all right, Dan Deble, before you go talk to us
about what your concerns are from the Seahawks perspective, I'm
always curious to get a person like you, with the
intelligence that you possessed and the history that you have
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in that city. You been doing this for a long time, right,
So what's going to keep you up at night thinking
about the Seahawks Tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Honestly, it's the head coach and what he does as
a defensive schemer. Going back to last year on Christmas
Night when he was a DC for Baltimore and they
came in here and they flummixed young Brock Party. They
coaxed him into four interceptions, Sam donnerold through a fifth
for good measure. They had the Niners on their heels
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with corner blitzes and crowding the middle of the field.
I think that he's going to try to do that again.
And guys, when the Niners lost to Minnesota earlier this year,
Brian floores it was a masterclass of defensive disguises and coverages.
I think that that is the best way for Seattle
to win this game. Make things uncomfortable for Brock Perdy,
and honestly, the Niner offensive line not great in past protection.
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So you bring a multitude of blitzes, you take away
the middle of the field. That's the key to beating
this Niner pass attack.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yep, all right, man, good stuff, and we'll compare your
visit with Bontos tomorrow and get back to you on
the new rankings after tomorrow's interview with Bonto.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Okay, pal, you.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Might you might have a shot to get bumped back
up to the number one spot, Buddy, all right, Bud
dam Yeah, we both know.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Where I rang fellas you take care and drive the.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Extremely difficult or they were so close, so close.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
That is the voice of Dan Dibley from the game
and Sam Francisco. Always fun to have him on the air.
You know why we call him the pirate because he
looks like the pirate from Dodgeball, at least I think
that if anybody else thinks that, but I do so.
I mean, I just kind of thinking about this game
tomorrow night, man, and I think you're right. They're gonna
come out and run the ball on a defense I
think you can run on. I just wonder how motivated
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Ryan Grubb and Mike McDonald are to run the ball,
which means not getting the ball as much to Jackson
Smith and Jigbu and DK Metcalf and Tydler Lockett, who
are three of your top five offensive players.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I think we all agree on that.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Top five and any order would be DK Lockett, JSN
Gino Smith and Kenny Walker. Right, those five guys, maybe
you can throw Charles cross putever, I'd put Walker one
or two on that, so he's top five. So if
the more you run the ball, the less you're getting
targets to those guys, I've told you, I'll tell you again.
I think Ryan Grubb believes he has a monster in
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DK Metcalf, absolute monster in DK, and wants to get
him the ball as much as humanly possible because he's
an absolute mismatch. Right, is on pace for more targets
than he's ever had his careery.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Have four targets in a game where you threw fifty times,
it's give me seven targets in the game and four
catches in the game he threw fifty times.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
We seven is not terrible. I mean we want you
held fifty times. Yeah, we spread the ball around. He's
not about the line game.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I'm talking about this last game forty times. Forty times
DK had seven targets. So that's only one out of
every six times it was going to DK.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I mean that's what is that twenty twenty two percent
whatever it is of the targets are going to going
to DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Well, that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's one hundred and nineteen targets for a season if
you were to get and that's way below the Hugh
Millen threshold.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
All right, well, I'll answer your question. You asked me,
why did he just get seven? Because it was one week.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I mean, did the did the Giants do a great
job of trying to take DK Metcalf away?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Did they double team him? Did they bracket him?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I know for a fact that DK Metcalf gets a
lot of attention from defense, that's true a ton, But
there's all that opens things up for everybody else. I mean,
nobody played well that game on Sunday. That's my number
one hand.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I mean, I just think there's only been two out
of five games where DK has gotten the targets that
we all want to see DK.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But he's on pace for more targets than he's ever
gotten because of those two games.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Okay, I would like to see more consistent times week.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's fair, but I don't think that's the way that
works though.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I don't think a guy gets one hundred and seventy
targets and then you look back and.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It's ten ten, ten, ten.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Right, it's fourteen here, it's six there, it's eleven there,
it's seven there, it's fifteen here, it's eight there.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So this is one of those weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Where they probably just did not maybe get him the
ball as much as they'd like. I didn't watch the
All twenty two like Hugh. That's a great question for
Millan on Friday when I'm on the way to Iowa.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Why did DK Metcalf not get more looks?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
But I think again, overall, he's on pace for more
targets than he's ever had in a career. So I
think Ryan Grubbs sees an absolute beast in DK Metcalf
and wants to get the guy the ball. I'm just
really curious to see how influenced they are by what
happened on Sunday against Giants in this game.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Tomorre speaking of on pace, and this is going to
shock a lot of people. Gino Smith is on pace
for the six most passing attempts in the history of
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You want to bet that doesn't happen. Yeah, I don't.
You know, it doesn't happen, right, But I don't want
him to have six hundred either. No, he won't. He won't.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I'll bet you a lot of money he'll have less
than six hundred passes a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Because he's on pace for Willimore.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Don't you think he'll have less than six hundred If
he has six, so not hope.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So what do you honestly think?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Over under I would definitely take it.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
You take me under correct, But I think if he
has six hundred or more, we're going to go seven
to ten.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, if he has six hundred or more, then there's
a chance that somebody got banged up, right, and they
got no choice but to throw the ball around the yard.
I don't think what you saw Sunday is indicative of
what this offense is going to look like as the
year goes by. But I do also think that you know,
what have we been complaining about, Shane Waldron, Get the
ball to your best players, get these guys involved.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
And the Lion game.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I mean, I know you weren't happy, but a lot
of people thought, hey, that's an like you and I
both went on the year after the Low game and said,
we feel better about the Seahawks now than we did before.
And it's because they were spreading the ball around. Man,
they were getting everybody involved. If not for stupid mistakes
a fumble by DK, maybe a bad call on a
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PI in the end zone that wasn't called by the officials.
Who knows the way that game goes.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Last month, the only thing I didn't like about the
Lion game was the first half you had twenty dropbacks
and four runs and you scored seven points.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
That's the only thing I didn't like about the Lion game.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
In the second half, you had way more carries for
ken Walker and they scored a lot more points in
that second.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I also to know all my guys fumbling the ball
on drives where they look like they're about to score,
and we saw that two weeks row, two weeks in
a row. That's we go back to the GINO Smith
pulling up before the marker, Jsn's dropping DKs fumble. How
much different does the Giant game look. I don't think
they blow them out because they weren't playing that way
on Sunday win. But you can take any of those
one plays and you can argue what like the odds,
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the win percentage, whatever they hell that thing is, it's
going to go up if those things don't happen. So
what I want out of my coordinator is simple. I
just want you to put guys in position to make plays.
I think Ryan Grubb has been doing that. He needs
to run the ball more. I totally agree with you
coming off this last week's game, but I think he's
been putting guys in position to make plays and they
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weren't making him.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Sunday, We're gonna break. Mike Florio joins next
All right, all right, joining us right now on the
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radio show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
When you think about a forty Niner reporter, a Bay
Area angle on this game.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Mitchell had a boy. There's only one man that we
think of. That man, though, is on the air tomorrow
with us in Bonta Hill. Today, we have Dan Dibley,
one of his teammates from the game in the Bay Area. Daniel,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Not great? After that intro? To be honest, you know
you figure a guy like me. You know, you and
I go back about two decades, and you're gonna do
me like that. You're gonna sun me and you're gonna
put Bonte in the top spot and put me in
the two hole.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Listen, it hurts softy, I'll be honest. Bonta told me
to say that about you.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
He's that intimidated by you that he needs to have
affirmation from his people up in Seattle. You you're a confident
young man. You don't need that kind of thing throwing
your way.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So just remember that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
All right, you should take pity on Bonta Hill for
God's sakes. Well, how about this game tomorrow? Is this
a bigger game for you? If your team or a
bigger game for our team.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
What do you think, Oh, it's a bigger game for
our team, because I think that our team here still
has designs on being something not that Seattle at three
and two is, you know, one loss away from packing
it in. But we've been saying around here all off
season it's super Bowl or bust. And you got Brock
Purdy who eventually is going to be the highest paid
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quarterback in football, which means you're not going to have
all these shiny objects around him sooner rather than later.
So the super Bowl window doesn't close when brockets paid,
but it does as far as having all these other
players around him. So there's a certain amount of urgency.
And when you start two and three, when you spit
up all over yourself against Arizona and you back one
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away against the Rams, you can't afford to go oh
and three in the division and oher and four in
the conference. Right, it's not a must win, but it's
a pretty damn big game here, guys.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So what hasn't worked this year?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Because perty's not getting paid yet, so we can't use
that as an excuse yet. So has it been more
the injuries and just not been able to put a
healthy team on the field, particularly on offense. Or is
this really do you see a closing of the window
of an aging football team when you watch them?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, honestly, and I don't want to file this under
the excuse ledger, but not having Christian McCaffrey's been a
big deal. And it's been a big deal in one
real area, and that's the red zone. Guys. Last year,
the Niners were number one in football in the red zone.
This year they're number thirty. And you don't win games
with field goals. You don't make friends with salad. As
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Lisa Simpsons famously said in that Simpsons episode, you gotta
get touchdowns if you're going to be a winning team,
and this team hasn't been able to do it. And
then you add in last week where the field goal
kicker decided that he was the ghost of Dick Butkus
and ended up breaking his ankle, so they didn't have
a field goal kicker in the second half. So you
get in the red zone and you can't even get three.
(02:51):
That's been the biggest issue with this team. You get
down in the deep red zone and you can't score touchdowns,
and that just doesn't get it done. You let these
teams hang around and then you find your way to
fumble at the eight and you lose to a bad
Arizona team.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, I mean the McCaffrey thing is legit. I mean,
as much as we like to clown on the Niners
and all that stuff, not having maybe the most versatile
offensive weapon.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
In the NFL is a big damn deal.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I mean, the guy last year at three hundred and
thirty nine touches, for God's sakes, running the ball and
catching the ball. So when we hear he's going to
Yermany that that doesn't sound good, man. I mean, are
we gonna see this kid at all this year?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I wouldn't be surprised if you don't see him at all.
Now this is not a sourced report, This is just
my opinion. But you're right, softy, when when you go
to Germany to get that special good good in the needle,
because they can spin your blood like we can't spin
it here in the States. And he came back and
we found out that he has bilateral achilles tendonitis, which
means both of the achilles are beset by tendonitis. And
(03:52):
so the guy's been shut down. I would not expect
to see him for at least a month, and even
when he does come back, you'd imagine him on a
pitch count. But I honestly, guys, wouldn't be that stunned
if you didn't see him at all until December, if
not later.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
How about the rest of the injuries for the team.
I saw where Charveri's Ward might not play on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
What are you hearing there?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He's been kind of banged up all year, and even
though he's been out there for the majority of snaps,
he has not been himself. Guys. He was the number
one shut down corner for this team a year ago
and this year he's been victimized a little bit and
the secondary has not been helped by a pretty flaccid
and I know that's a dangerous word, but the pass
rush has been very flaccid this year, and when you
(04:36):
don't have a good pass rush, it exposes the secondary.
So Mooney Ward likely will play, but he's been dealing
with a knee and I think he had a groin
and maybe an ain't going a hammy. I can't even
run through the whole litany of injuries, but he has
not been healthy. Talanoa Hufonga, the hard hitting safety, he's
not gonna play. So it's really the it's the kids
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back there. You got Ernardo Green, who is a top
draft pick this past year. You got Jayra Brown who's
going to play for Hufonga. But it's it's a pretty
young and inexperienced secondary outside of Mooney Ward and Diabodo Lenoro,
who has been great.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
All right, So Dan Dedley with us from the game
the pirate are I mean, outside of not being as
smart ass, which I am as smart as what is
what are the Niners.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Good at right now?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
What are they e lead at right now that I
should be concerned about tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, it's that laminated play sheet that Kyle Shanahan holds
and that really is the difference maker and everything. And also,
guys put some respect on Jordan Mason's name. And this
I think goes to the Shanahan scheme and the Shanahan
system because Jordan Mason is an undrafted player who basically
was a nobody until this year and now he's what
the second leading rusher and all of football. And they
(05:47):
still do have Trent Williams at left tackle, who's an
absolute force in the run game. And I look at
the Seattle run defense and I've got questions about their
ability to stop San Francisco. So I think that in
this game, what it comes down to is Shanahan reverting
to his happy place, which is counting the rock. And
so that's one thing that they still have been able
(06:08):
to do pretty well. And brock Purty, guys, say what
you want about where he was drafted. We call it draftism.
On our show, my partner coined that he's an elite quarterback.
So offensively, this is still a juggernaut of an offense.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So being an elite quarterback, I would assume that all
forty nine er fans want to pay him fifty plus
million dollars beginning next year.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Is that the case.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
No, it's not the case, Dick, And you know how
fans are. And by the way, that number is actually
going to be sixty if you look at where the
market's going to be, and you know a lot of
that is because fans still, some fans here still don't
believe that he's the kind of guy who can take
a team on his shoulders and elevate you and lead
you to victory. But all he's done is be successful
(06:53):
in the playoffs in the regular season, and I look
at the game last year against Green Bay in the
playoffs where they needed drive with six minutes left and
he let him on the drive and they won the game.
So fans for the most part are now sold on
Brock Purdy. But still people are having some sticker shock
at the fact that it's probably gonna take sixty million.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Per Well, but you mentioned guys like Jordan Mason and
what the scheme does for a guy like him. You
had a guy that won a lot of football games.
And I'm not saying Jimmy Garoppolo is as good as
Rock Purdy. I don't think he is as a good
at Rock Party. But you had a guy like Jimmy
Garoppolo win a lot of games because of Kyle Shannahan.
Isn't there a thought that, hey, you can find somebody.
(07:33):
Look at all these teams pulling Baker Mayfield's Gino Smithson,
Sam Darnold's out of hats and winning. Couldn't Kyle Shanahan
do that with a twenty five million dollar quarterback someplace?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
He could? But the difference is that Brock Purty sees
it and he sees it the way that Kyle sees it,
and you know, he gets to the line of scrimmage
and you guys are going to get a good look
at it tomorrow night. But his ability to decipher and
make decisions in real time in a split second, that
is his elite skill. And you know, you think about
(08:04):
Tom Brady all those years ago and what he was
able to do. Similarly, I'm not saying that brock Purty's
going to have a Tom Brady career, but look at
Tom Brady's first twenty five games and compare those to
brock Purty's first twenty five games. Purty's got better numbers,
better winning percentage, better touchdown interception ratio, and all the
rest of it. The guy just sees it. He doesn't
(08:27):
have elite arm talent. He doesn't have any elite skill
other than his ability to look at a defense, decipher
what's going on, and usually make the right play.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, I mean it does seem like a lot of money, right,
no doubt, But then again, the Cowboys are paying Dak Prescott,
the Jaguars are paying Trevor Lawrence, the Giants are paying
Daniel Jones forty million, dollars and most of them are
getting nothing from those guys. So I just don't know. Guys,
at some point there's going to be a team that
says no thanks. But nobody's been that guinea pig yet.
(08:57):
And I don't think it's going to happen in San Francisco.
So you think they re sign him to a big
deal over the offseason.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I do. And think about what the Browns did to
that cardboard cutout of a quarterback to Sean Watson. They
gave him guaranteed money. And I'll say it, I'll say
it on your show. I said it on my show.
He stinks he cannot play quarterback. He is terrible. And so, yeah,
Brock is eligible for an extension. They're gonna give it
to him. The owner has already come on record and said, yeah,
(09:24):
whatever he wants, he's going to reset the market. And
the owner usually doesn't come out and says that and
say that unless he's totally sold on that as a reality.
And you know, at that point, it's gonna be up
to John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan to successfully draft around him.
And look at what Green Bay's done, guys with Wix
and all the other young players, and you know Jayden
(09:46):
Reid and all the draft capital they've allocated around their
high priced quarterback. That I think is going to be
the new way to do it. Not paying receivers a boatload.
Although Brandon Ayukuz making thirty million, they're gonna have to
deal with him and Debo in the offseason, right, But
you pay the quarterback and then you try to find
cheap labor around him.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Dan Dibley from the game in San Francisco with us
on the air Niner Seahawks tomorrow, So you know about
the injury report for you guys, Kittle Warner are off
the report.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Are they totally healthy? Are they playing dinged up?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
What do you think the real status is for those
two big dogs tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Well, Warner played a little bit hurt last game. He
had the ankle. Fred Warner doesn't miss games. Fred Warner
is one of the greatest linebackers I've ever seen. But honestly,
he'll probably be playing at about seventy percent with the ankle.
He's going to play, but he's going to be a
little bit limited. I don't see any illness or any
injury with George Kittle. He should be good to go,
(10:43):
and aside from that, the Niners are mostly healthy. They
do have a new kicker in town. We're trying to
do a little bit of a get to know you
time with the kicker. But by and large, the Niners
have no excuses. Guys, both teams on a short week.
The Niners have been without CMC, so you can't use
that as an excuse. And honestly, they should be four
(11:04):
and one if they didn't gack away a couple of
these games. So the Niners for the most part, are
intact and they should be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
What type of game you think we're gonna see?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Because usually this game goes under the total and this
is the highest total I've seen for this game in
a long time. It's almost fifty. Is that just because
of the defensive injuries? I mean, what do you see?
It just seems way high for me.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think that normally they would be more of a
typical slobber knocker. But based on what you guys did
last weekend where you all but told your star running back,
no thanks, we don't need you five carries for Walker,
I don't know what the story was there, but it
looks like you guys are falling in love with the pass,
and the forty nine ers will let Rock Purdy air
(11:48):
it out some, so this one might turn into more
of a passing affair. But honestly, I like the under
on that total because I do think that this is
going to be a Jordan Mason game. He only carried
it four teen times on Sunday in the lost to Arizona.
I think that they're going to lean on Jordan Mason,
the two hundred and twenty five pounder, and let him
(12:08):
just try to pound this thing out. And so I
like a lower scoring game than the total.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, keep thinking the Hawks are a passing team, pal,
and they run the ball fifty times tomorrow. Just come
out of number boom right down your throat. They might
run it twice on one play tomorrow night. By the way,
all right, Dan Deble, before you go talk to us
about what your concerns are from the Seahawks perspective, I'm
always curious to get a person like you, with the
intelligence that you possessed and the history that you have
(12:34):
in that city. You been doing this for a long time, right,
So what's going to keep you up at night thinking
about the Seahawks Tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Honestly, it's the head coach and what he does as
a defensive schemer. Going back to last year on Christmas
Night when he was a DC for Baltimore and they
came in here and they flummixed young Brock Party. They
coaxed him into four interceptions, Sam donnerold through a fifth
for good measure. They had the Niners on their heels
(13:04):
with corner blitzes and crowding the middle of the field.
I think that he's going to try to do that again.
And guys, when the Niners lost to Minnesota earlier this year,
Brian floores it was a masterclass of defensive disguises and coverages.
I think that that is the best way for Seattle
to win this game. Make things uncomfortable for Brock Perdy,
and honestly, the Niner offensive line not great in past protection.
(13:29):
So you bring a multitude of blitzes, you take away
the middle of the field. That's the key to beating
this Niner pass attack.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yep, all right, man, good stuff, and we'll compare your
visit with Bontos tomorrow and get back to you on
the new rankings after tomorrow's interview with Bonto.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Okay, pal, you.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Might you might have a shot to get bumped back
up to the number one spot, Buddy, all right, Bud
dam Yeah, we both know.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Where I rang fellas you take care and drive the.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Extremely difficult or they were so close, so close.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
That is the voice of Dan Dibley from the game
and Sam Francisco. Always fun to have him on the air.
You know why we call him the pirate because he
looks like the pirate from Dodgeball, at least I think
that if anybody else thinks that, but I do so.
I mean, I just kind of thinking about this game
tomorrow night, man, and I think you're right. They're gonna
come out and run the ball on a defense I
think you can run on. I just wonder how motivated
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Ryan Grubb and Mike McDonald are to run the ball,
which means not getting the ball as much to Jackson
Smith and Jigbu and DK Metcalf and Tydler Lockett, who
are three of your top five offensive players.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I think we all agree on that.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Top five and any order would be DK Lockett, JSN
Gino Smith and Kenny Walker. Right, those five guys, maybe
you can throw Charles cross putever, I'd put Walker one
or two on that, so he's top five. So if
the more you run the ball, the less you're getting
targets to those guys, I've told you, I'll tell you again.
I think Ryan Grubb believes he has a monster in
(14:53):
DK Metcalf, absolute monster in DK, and wants to get
him the ball as much as humanly possible because he's
an absolute mismatch. Right, is on pace for more targets
than he's ever had his careery.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Have four targets in a game where you threw fifty times,
it's give me seven targets in the game and four
catches in the game he threw fifty times.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
We seven is not terrible. I mean we want you
held fifty times. Yeah, we spread the ball around. He's
not about the line game.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I'm talking about this last game forty times. Forty times
DK had seven targets. So that's only one out of
every six times it was going to DK.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I mean that's what is that twenty twenty two percent
whatever it is of the targets are going to going
to DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Well, that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's one hundred and nineteen targets for a season if
you were to get and that's way below the Hugh
Millen threshold.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
All right, well, I'll answer your question. You asked me,
why did he just get seven? Because it was one week.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I mean, did the did the Giants do a great
job of trying to take DK Metcalf away?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Did they double team him? Did they bracket him?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I know for a fact that DK Metcalf gets a
lot of attention from defense, that's true a ton, But
there's all that opens things up for everybody else. I mean,
nobody played well that game on Sunday. That's my number
one hand.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I mean, I just think there's only been two out
of five games where DK has gotten the targets that
we all want to see DK.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But he's on pace for more targets than he's ever
gotten because of those two games.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Okay, I would like to see more consistent times week.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's fair, but I don't think that's the way that
works though.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I don't think a guy gets one hundred and seventy
targets and then you look back and.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It's ten ten, ten, ten.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Right, it's fourteen here, it's six there, it's eleven there,
it's seven there, it's fifteen here, it's eight there.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So this is one of those weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Where they probably just did not maybe get him the
ball as much as they'd like. I didn't watch the
All twenty two like Hugh. That's a great question for
Millan on Friday when I'm on the way to Iowa.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Why did DK Metcalf not get more looks?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
But I think again, overall, he's on pace for more
targets than he's ever had in a career. So I
think Ryan Grubbs sees an absolute beast in DK Metcalf
and wants to get the guy the ball. I'm just
really curious to see how influenced they are by what
happened on Sunday against Giants in this game.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Tomorre speaking of on pace, and this is going to
shock a lot of people. Gino Smith is on pace
for the six most passing attempts in the history of
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You want to bet that doesn't happen. Yeah, I don't.
You know, it doesn't happen, right, But I don't want
him to have six hundred either. No, he won't. He won't.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I'll bet you a lot of money he'll have less
than six hundred passes a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Because he's on pace for Willimore.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Don't you think he'll have less than six hundred If
he has six, so not hope.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So what do you honestly think?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Over under I would definitely take it.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
You take me under correct, But I think if he
has six hundred or more, we're going to go seven
to ten.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, if he has six hundred or more, then there's
a chance that somebody got banged up, right, and they
got no choice but to throw the ball around the yard.
I don't think what you saw Sunday is indicative of
what this offense is going to look like as the
year goes by. But I do also think that you know,
what have we been complaining about, Shane Waldron, Get the
ball to your best players, get these guys involved.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
And the Lion game.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I mean, I know you weren't happy, but a lot
of people thought, hey, that's an like you and I
both went on the year after the Low game and said,
we feel better about the Seahawks now than we did before.
And it's because they were spreading the ball around. Man,
they were getting everybody involved. If not for stupid mistakes
a fumble by DK, maybe a bad call on a
(18:15):
PI in the end zone that wasn't called by the officials.
Who knows the way that game goes.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Last month, the only thing I didn't like about the
Lion game was the first half you had twenty dropbacks
and four runs and you scored seven points.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
That's the only thing I didn't like about the Lion game.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
In the second half, you had way more carries for
ken Walker and they scored a lot more points in
that second.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I also to know all my guys fumbling the ball
on drives where they look like they're about to score,
and we saw that two weeks row, two weeks in
a row. That's we go back to the GINO Smith
pulling up before the marker, Jsn's dropping DKs fumble. How
much different does the Giant game look. I don't think
they blow them out because they weren't playing that way
on Sunday win. But you can take any of those
one plays and you can argue what like the odds,
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the win percentage, whatever they hell that thing is, it's
going to go up if those things don't happen. So
what I want out of my coordinator is simple. I
just want you to put guys in position to make plays.
I think Ryan Grubb has been doing that. He needs
to run the ball more. I totally agree with you
coming off this last week's game, but I think he's
been putting guys in position to make plays and they
(19:19):
weren't making him.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Sunday, We're gonna break. Mike Florio joins next
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