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November 20, 2025 14 mins

Rick Neuheisel, former Huskies coach now with CBS Sports, joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about Steve Sarkisian’s situation at Texas and Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss, recruiting in college football, USC facing Oregon and UW facing UCLA this week.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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(00:25):
with Rick new Heisel. Here's Softy and Dick all.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Right back here at the five twenty bar and grill.
Mike Homgre'm gonna join us next segment. He is here
by the way in person.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Baby. We'll do it live with Mike Holmgren.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Coming up next, Cracking hockey with the Blackhawks pregame four
to thirty, faced off at five and joining us right
now on the radio program, our friend Rick Neuheisel, Who
damn it Memphis plus the points at East Carolina. You
were on a hot streak, My friend did not come
through for us last week six and seven overall, but
have rebounded very nicely from the start of the year.

(00:58):
But Memphis, they failed us, pal, they failed us.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
They had they had the twenty seven twenty four lead
and gave up the touchdown. Pass with like a minute left.
Neat eyes. The corners need to use their eyes. They
were not available at that defense. But we live, we
press on, and we're not afraid.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, we'll get a pick coming up from you in
a minute here. Why don't we start with our old guy.
Sark in the news today says he's not going anywhere.
He's going to stay at Texas. All the other jobs
that are out there he doesn't want him. And I
was reminded by the way Rick of a from a
buddy of mine. I think, Dick, you may have been
on the air when Sark went on with Mitch in

(01:42):
the morning and said he wasn't going anywhere, and he
took the USC job later that morning, I believe is
when he walked out and took the USC job. So
he's said things like this before. Should we believe him
now that he's not leaving Texas?

Speaker 4 (01:59):
You know it? It's up to you. I don't know
what coaches are supposed to say. I mean, he's literally,
he's literally trying to say that he's staying. I would
be shocked if he left. I mean, it's a ten
point eight million dollar deal, right, and it's the University
of Texas where you've got resources like nobody's, you know, business,

(02:19):
it's a hard job to be to do better. Then
I have no idea unless there's personal reasons that are
going on that none of us know about. But yeah,
I think he's going to be there. But it was
strange when Desmond Howard put out that video where he's
walking the trash out and talking about how Stark and
Texas are going to split ways, and Diana Russini had

(02:42):
the big breaking news. I guess it was the Vanderbilt
game that had him on the run. So where there's smoke,
there's fires. So we'll just see how much smoke there
really is.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Well, then the other big coach out there, Lane Kiffin,
and you've mentioned to us before that you think he
should stay and will stay.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think Joel Klatt raised in question yesterday.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
I saw him say that ole Miss is willing to
match any offer that Lane gets.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
So Joel's question was, if.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
That is the case, then why hasn't Lane signed a
new contract with ole Miss if indeed he's staying there.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Well, I don't know that it's all about money, you
know this is I mean, Lane went on record as
saying it's not about money. I have a hard time
believing you. But none of the Jimmy Sexton clients have
re upped with their teams the other day. They've all
been told, you know, basically, we're going to play this market.
We're going to increase the market, increase your security. But

(03:38):
I don't know what Ole Miss is supposed to do here.
Ole Miss obviously wants the guy to stay. What do
they can't? Are they going to fire him? Do they
have to pay a buyout with if they fire him?
Because of Jimmy Sexton's language in these contracts, you can
walk out and not have to pay any money back.
I don't have any idea what the leverage is for

(03:58):
the universities based on the contracts that these guys are getting.
And listen, I've always been an advocate for coaches, but
this one seems a little bit one sided in the
other direction.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, well, how about the player's side of this man,
Because look, I'm all for player empowerment. I think kids
should be able to make money off their name. I
think if other adults are making money off kids, they
should be able to make money off their own damn name.
And so I love the fact that the NCAA is
allowing this to happen. What I don't like and maybe
I'm just old and crotchety, now, Rick, I don't like

(04:31):
a kid that's on a football team in the middle
of November shopping himself around college football the way apparently
Sam Levitt is for Arizona State. I mean, it's kind
of disgusting, to be totally honest with you, that this
kid was on a playoff team a year ago, he
got banged up, and now he's got his people looking
for a new job while his football team is still playing.

(04:51):
It's a massive turnoff. I think it's turning off a
lot of fans.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
What do you think, Well, it's it's troubling. I'm always
quick to say say, don't hate the player, hate the game.
This is our fault. This is college football's fault. We
never saw into the crystal ball and saw what the
future held, and so this is all happening in real time,
and we're acting like a bunch of people who can't
make a decision because we're all trying to make these

(05:17):
decisions by committee, and those who have the power are
unwilling to change the rules to make benefit the whole
when they don't think they necessarily are going to benefit
those with the money and the power. As I just said,
this is you know, we need to collectively bargain. We
need to wait till the season is over to talk

(05:37):
to new coaches. The NFL does that. No one seems
to have a hard time, and everybody says they're racing
for this recruiting. Well, then move recruiting back. It was
a dumb idea to move it all the way up. Anyway,
do you realize in thirteen days we're having the signing
date and no one knows. And by the way, if
Lane kiffins still at all miss, he can sign that
class on December third and then take them with them

(05:58):
to Florida or LSU. I mean, it's the damnest thing
I've ever seen. And it's all because we can't sit
in one room and get organized. Make the signing class
again in February, even move it back another week in February.
Then once the season's over, you can talk to coaches,
so coaches can move and there can be but no
one can be contacted while you're still playing your season.

(06:19):
And then move spring ball back into June and move
the transfer portal to the end of the school years
where kids can actually finish a school year rather than
being whisked off to this other place. And this is
going to as long as we stay in this way,
you're going to be more upset about kids like Sam
Levitt because agents are in the transaction business and they're
just peddling their wares. That's all that's going on right now.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Wow, that is far too logical for college fool. Can
you just run college football? What are you doing with
us on the radio? Get the hell off, babe. It
makes something of your life, will you? For good's sake?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Man man Rick, you mentioned LSU there in that monologue.
How marketable is Brian Kelly?

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I probably not very right now. And it's a shame
because you know, this thing went so poorly. But there's
now concern about is he the kind of guy that
will work with an administration and all that stuff. He
kind of had a little bit of a tyrant kind
of motif going there when he's banging the table with
the media and all the different stuff. I obviously he's

(07:31):
a gifted coach and had a great career. There's no
I don't think his career is over, but I won't
be shocked to see him sit a year and then
get back in.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Rick new Heisel with us courtesy of our friends at
Taco time talk to us about Oregon USC. I think
Husky fans obviously keeping an eye on that game for
a couple of reasons, that what could impact start time
of our game with the Ducks next Saturday. And then obviously, look,
I mean it kind of feels like neither team and
I'm in clue Oregon in this that in that Tusome

(08:03):
can afford another loss. Do you agree with that that
both USC and Oregon have a shot but they can't lose.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
I think I think you're dead right. I don't think
there's a quality win on the Oregon schedule, and it's
not anybody's fault other than it's been a poor year
in the Big Ten and too many teams and what
we thought was a classic win at Penn State has
fallen from grace. So the facts of the matter are is,
I think this is a playoff game, and it makes

(08:29):
it a great game. Oregon comes in as the top
team rushing the football in the Big Ten and SC
comes in as the top team passing the football in
the Big Ten. So it's what gives normally in this
kind of November weather in Eugene, you lean to the
to the running team. So it's going to be really
incumbent if SC is going to win, to play great
run defense. And whether or not they're up to that, well,

(08:52):
we have to wait and see.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Rick.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
One of USC's two losses is to Notre Dame. If
they would have just played to lead up instead of
Notre Dame, they would be in the college football playoffs
right now. So doesn't you Notre Dame need USC a
lot more than USC needs Notre Dame, And doesn't that
give jen Coen a little.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Leverage one hundred percent Notre Dame needs USC. And just
wait if Notre Dame keeps getting this, you know, this
free pass to the college football playoff as they're getting
this year despite losing two games to open the season,
one of which to Miami, who's sitting six spots behind him.

(09:33):
And then then Hunter euros At, the new committee chair,
gets on television says, well, they're not in the same pool,
meaning that they aren't even being compared to one another,
and they're both sitting at eight and two and played
one another. It's incredible It's an incredible situation, but Notre
Dame's you know, rock and roll and you know, all

(09:53):
star kind of billing that they get as the rock
stars of college football is going to There's no question
that SC has the leverage in that deal. And I
think you're going to see the Big Ten and the
SEC start working a little leverage for favorable deals as
well for them to keep being allowed to be an

(10:16):
independent in the college football playoffs.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, I know you would have loved to have been
in Seattle last week for the Rose Bowl celebration.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Sat down with pictures, Softie. I saw the pictures. It's
so cool to see those guys and the smiles on
their faces.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Chad Ward almost fell over in a chair when he
sat down with us. By the way, Larry Triplett looks
the exact same, like he's five years old. And Marie
Shaw said, hello, all right, so a lot of guys
from that team.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
So good we're in town.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
But I know, I know you'd love to be at
the Rose Bowl at your alma mater on Saturday because
it could be the final regular season game ever and
it could be the last time the Huskies play a
game at the Rose Bowl. For a long time, right,
I mean especially a regular season game against UCLA. So
I guess my question to you is a former Bruin,
how emotional, how inspired do you think the crowd will

(11:06):
be and the players will be to show up and
show out on Saturday? And then Nico did not play
a week ago, it looks like he may play Saturday.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
How problematic is that for the Husky defense?

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Well, Nico's the key to the offense. There's no question
his ability, both with his arm and his legs are
the straw that stirs the drink for that offense. And
that's no secret fingers crossed that he'll play for the
sake of a great game. The Huskies are clearly the
favorite in this game because there's just not been enough

(11:42):
consistency on either side of the ball at UCLA. And
for the Bruins to have any sort of chance, they're
going to have to corral Demon Williams. As for the crowd.
As for the crowd, I hope that we get a
nice crowd. You know, Bruin fans are a little fickle
at times with expeck to if you're winning there in
if they're not winning, they kind of it's a long

(12:04):
trip right twenty six miles to the Rose Bull from UCLA.
But fingers crossed that it'll be a fantastic game and
we'll wait and see who's the next guy at UCLA.
Hopefully you'll get the sport necessary to be successful.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Would you say, Softie, were one to nine in our
last ten games down there against them against Ucla?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Rick, please explain that to me.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
Why better Husky teams, even the ones that you coached
to be back in nineteen ninety nine, better Husky teams
go down there and lose to UCLA.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Why is that that overtime nightmare? God dang it. John
Anderson made the fifty six yarder.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
We're going to the.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Rose bul Boys if we just get We just didn't
see the proper receiver. Markets didn't practice all week. I
don't remember now.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Was that the week after the Arizona game, by the way,
when they brought the roses out.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
He that's exactly right, they brought the roses out. He'd
practiced no game, none at all, and we had that
long drive sealed the deal. Then he had to sit
the entire week the next week and just weren't sharp enough,
just weren't sharp enough, and unfortunately lost that one. Just nightmare.
But you know, for years, UCLA has always looked forward

(13:17):
to the Washington game as much as the se game
because of the way Don James coached Washington and the
toughness that was exhibited by the Dogs. It was a
call to arms in every UCLA locker room prior to
that game that we are going to match the toughness.
And because of that, it just was a galvanizing deal.

(13:39):
I remember coming up to Seattle and being on teams that,
like in nicold stuff, it didn't matter. This was tough
guy stuff, just because of the respect that we had
for Coach James's the Husky teams.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
All right, before you go, it's time to get back
to five hundred. The entire menu was sitting there. You
just got to decide what you want to eat. Man,
East Carolina ruined our week last week. Let's get back
in the win column. Taco Time Selection, I'm gonna go
with the spicy tater fries and the spicy ranch and
the cris beef burrito. Jackson's favorite with an old favorite.

(14:13):
Who do you like this week? For your Taco Time
Pick of the week.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
I'm going to the Mountain West I'm going to take
Dan Mullen's ULB Rebels over Hawaii. They're only a two
point pick Hawaii. He has been fantastic. Give Timmy Chang
all sorts of credit. But it's another long road trip
and it's a critical game for the Rebels. So I'm
going to take Anthony Calandria and the Revs to cover

(14:38):
the two and a half.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
All right, UNLV minus the points against Hawaii on Saturday
in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
All Right, you're the man, great stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Hey, we'll try to find a way to talk next
week before Turkey Day.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Appreciate this past trick.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
I look forward to it. Boys, we're coming down the stretch.
Always a blast.
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