November 26, 2025 • 20 mins
Petros Papadakis from Fox Sports Radio in Los Angeles joins Dave Softy Mahler to talk about his Greek Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow, Saturday’s UW game against the Ducks and the playoff implications, USC’s situation with Lincoln Riley, and Jedd Fisch’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analysts
Petros papadikasnock.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid.
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
All right, buzz and girls, here we go on a
free Thanksgiving Wednesday afternoon right here on ninety three to
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to say, hashtag bless baby. What a pleasure, What an honor,
what an opportunity on this Wednesday, before we give thanks,
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Speaker 3 (01:36):
Hello softy, how are you? What's plan for tomorrow? What
does a big fat Greek Thanksgiving look like tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Ask me this.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Every year we go to my uncle Tom's house and
my aunt Ellen, and they put on a traditional American Thanksgiving,
and there's a few Greek dishes here and there.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There would probably be some pickled.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Octopus as a as an appetizer, and probably a span
a coffee time, which is the spinach and feta cheese
with the filo dough for dinner as one of the
side dishes. But other than that, pretty maybe a lamb,
but they'll also be a turkey. So traditional Thanksgiving to
say to say the least.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, I love that, I'm glad that you're spending up
with family and friends. I'm trying to get myself ready
for tomorrow, and I'm failing miserably. I told myself I
was going to fast every day this week so I
can stuff my gut on Thursday, and all I end
up doing is just eating everything in the kitchen that
we are supposed to be eating tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm getting fatter by the second.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Here, pal, Well take it easy, softy. You know, I
know it's been a rough year, but with the Mariners
and all that. But God bless you, and I'm very
thankful for you and your audience and nice people at
KJR that put me on and put up with me.
So I sure appreciate that. Well, we appreciate you being here.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I tell you what I would appreciate is a freaking
win over the Ducks on Saturday. Tell me the dogs
got a shot. They're getting six and a half. Vegas
thinks they're an underdog, but I don't know. I thought
they'd be maybe nine or ten point dogs on Saturday.
In this Oregon football team. To me, big boy, they
look a little beatable. I don't know, what do you think,
Oregon U dub Saturday?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
They look pretty good to me, But they're different on
the road, but I think they're a good team. I
can't believe how good Dante More is after CNM is
a true freshman at UCLA and challenged he was. He's
really come along. I love the two running backs. They
obviously have a special tight end, and they did a
(03:36):
great job against USC.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Hold on, yeah right there sounds like somebody's knocking on
your door or something back there.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
No, they did a great job against USC stopping to run.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
The hell was that? Nothing?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
My internet's down and I was trying to see what
would work and okay, I had a rough call with Maryland.
The internet is very slow. Todd Locksley kept like blurring
out like Max.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Mike, Mike Locksley? Sorry, who the hell's Todd Locksley? I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry, man, that was a low blow.
You're in a mood. I can tell I am in
a mood. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well when when I'm strung when you're on the zoom
and the internet doesn't work and then there's a gout
of chainsaw outside hacking away at the trees in your
neighbor's yard, but all the crap is falling in your yard. Wow, Yeah,
it's you want to go address that.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I can't address it. I'm doing radio here for the
rest of the.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Day, okay, and because I'm doing well, because I'm doing
this right now, and then it's the worst traffic day
of the year, so I can't drive up to work
and take four hours.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah. Yeah, is he still hacking away outside? Yeah? I
can kind of hear it, to be honest. Yes they're hacky. Yes, yeah,
Well tell them to shut the hell up. I can't.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
They're not in my yard, and I don't know if
they're messing with the cables or what.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Tech rage is a real thing, man, I'm with you.
You know, when nothing works, it's very frustrating.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yes, it is very well. You know, you sit down,
you get ready for your conference call. Everybody expects you
to be the guy that runs a call, and all
of a sudden it doesn't work. And then you put
it up on your phone with the video component and
there's like a crazy echo and everybody hates you, and
that is how my day has gone.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, can you just try, like just get off the
internet and just go with like a typical five G
setup and be done with it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I don't know what you're talking about, I want you
to leave me alone. Okay, Well, let's talk about the kids,
saying Morgan stopped the run very well against USC, and
then they attacked it. They kicked USC's ass, right, And yes,
USC has two very good receivers who are very difficult
to cover throughout a whole game, but they did a
great job on Mackay Lemon and Jacoby Lane. USC really
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kind of showed their undisciplined ass on Saturday against Oregon,
and Oregon did what you would expect them to do,
which is pretty much control the game. So I would
expect them to do the same against you guys. But
it's a rivalry game. Yeah, it's in Husky Stadium, so
I would say that dogs have more than a puncher's
(06:18):
chance in this one. I mean, overall, are you happy
with the way that Washington's played this season?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I mean really, it just comes down to the Wisconsin game, dude. Honestly,
like you're sitting there at eight and three and you
should be nine and two. You should have won the
Wisconsin game. And who knows, if Demand doesn't fumble on
third and twelve, they don't get the easy touchdown from
the seven yard line. They probably are nine and two
and they're in the CFP conversation, not saying they make
the CFP, but they're at least in the discussion.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
So if there's any disappointment, I guess the thing comes
down to that one game. But that is the thing though.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I mean, if you're Washington or your USC, the you
need to be in the College Football Playoff at this
point the way the playoff is structured for people to
feel good about where you're going unless you have a
true freshman quarterback and the whole team is young and
they were terrible the year before and they finally shown
some promise. You know, those circumstances, but you need to
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be in the college football conversation for the playoff late
in November, and.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You could say that USC was.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You can kind of say that Washington was without that
game at Wisconsin. But the problem is the games where
they played up against college football playoff caliber teams, Notre
Dame for USC, Oregon for USC on the road in
Illinois when Illinois was playing at a high level, those
(07:43):
teams controlled the line of scrimmage and kind of controlled
the game even though Illinois had to drive to kick
a field goal.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
To win.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
They still were in control of that game for a
big part of it. And well, you say the same
about Washington, right with Ohio State and the game against Michigan,
who's not even I mean, they're in the playoff conversation,
but Michigan's got a freshman quarterback, So yeah, you're sort
of in the conversation. But at the same time, when
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you're on the field with somebody who really is in
the conversation, there is a very big and noticeable difference. Yeah,
between the two teams, and I think that's frustrating for
the fan base down here at USC and probably frustrating
for you guys up there.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well, but there's I think, and you tell me if
I'm crazy about this, I think there's a little context
that you dub fans can at least fall back on,
and that as our team got blown to hell last
year when Cavin de Boor took off for Alabama, right, Like,
I mean, what do we expect that jet Fish was
honestly gonna have these guys in the playoff in year
two after taking over for a roster that got blown
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to smithereens.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I mean, Lincoln Riley is I think that.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Argument doesn't hold any water anymore because of Indiana. Oh look,
I understand who else is doing that besides Indiana, But though,
I mean that guy went to Indiana in an unwinnable
situation for the last one hundred years and brings a
bunch of guys from the Sun Belt and dominates the
(09:13):
Big Ten. And now, I mean, whatever Lincoln Riley says,
Luke Fickle, anybody when they're not competing, you say, well,
what about this? What do you what do you what
do you have going on that this guy doesn't have
going on so he could have that success?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It is.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It is an amazing thing. I agree. I mean, the
Indiana thing is the burp in the universe. But nowadays
you got to make a decision about your coach, and
you really hope that your coach makes a decision about
you so he can start retaining the football team somewhere
early in November or late October, whether you're having success
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or not. And that's why you look at Maryland and
they say, yeah, we're keeping this guy, or you look
at h Luke Fickle situation, Yeah we're keeping this guy.
They need to do that because if you don't, you're
months behind in recruiting and the portal and getting your
staff together. I mean, these guys have an unimaginably tough
(10:16):
job with the college football calendar, and they made it
easier by knocking down one of the portals and changing
the signing day.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But it's still very difficult for these guys. Who was this.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Did you guys talk about the USC reporter that went
after Lincoln Riley?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Oh yeah, I mean, don't apologize, right, Like, what are
we doing now?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
He's writing?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
So he's written like three open letters. I don't know
what he did for people. Lincoln Riley about a sign
at the game day that said something like retain Lincoln
Riley because he sucks, you know something? And the kid
asked about that, and how do you feel that your
opponents aren't afraid of you? Or so it was kind
(10:56):
of a ham fisted question. I believe that's how Pat
Forty wrote it. But at the same time, it's a
question that Lincoln Riley can answer. All you have to
say is no, I didn't watch game day. That's not
what we're concerned about. We got our own problems here.
And instead he took the opportunity to attack the young
guy and told him he was unprofessional, and yeah, that's
probably true.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
But what basically the guy said, how do you feel
about fans that don't want you to quit because they
think that you suck and they want to beat you everywhere?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
And you know, there's a lot of different ways to
answer that question, and there's a lot of opportunities to
answer that question and look better than Lincoln Riley came
off looking. If that makes sense. We can all understand
his frustration the team lost and all that, but yeah,
it's and now the guy's all apologizing and stuff's like,
no one ever knew you before you asked the question.
(11:46):
Stick to your story and call the guy thin skinned,
but he probably got threatened by their sports information director
who put out a ridiculous game release. Did you see
that usc sid something about like duck hunting and we
have this many Heisman's Oregon has won, we have this
(12:08):
many titles, Orgon has zero, We've played in this many
Rose bulls.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Orgon has played in eight. You know, but isn't that
part of the release every week?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It was a real f you to Oregon. I mean
it read like a real It read like a real
few to Oregon.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
You. Yeah, but they used it as as bulletin board
material and obviously controlled the game, so I don't know.
And then USC had an assistant a D some guy
named Gavin Morris, an assistant a D like while the
organ band was on the field, go out near the
O and do like a TikTok dance and mock the fans,
(12:45):
and they're come on, swear to god, that's just douchey. Yeah,
it wasn't a good look for us the whole all
of Saturday, you know. And then to have that special
teams thing they did with Sam Hewart against Northwestern that
got people Twitter paid it, and then USC really leaned
into that and they kind of trolled everybody with Twitter stuff,
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and my god, they put Sam Hewart in the kicker's shoes,
let alone his jersey, and had him throw a fake
punt against Northwestern, which everybody came out afterwards the Dean
Blandinos and Mike Perreiras of the world and said was
in fact illegal. Then all of a sudden, they go
up to Oregon in the biggest game of the year.
(13:28):
They run into the a fair catch, they leap over
the snapper, which creates a first down and a touchdown,
when they missed a field goal, they gave up a
punt return with a line drive punt at the at
the fifty. I mean they really laid an egg on
special teams. Some would say that was some karma involved there.
(13:50):
I don't really know, but yeah, USC really showed their
ass on Satday.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Well, I mean, this has got to be driving bananas.
He thinks she's going to clean house. I year, you know,
ask you is this the year? Is this the year
they buy him out? And just say the hell that.
Wilner says No, he thinks he's gonna stay, and I
don't think they're gonna afford to buy him out. And
I think he likes being in Pallas Verdi's and not
reaching out to people. And that's just what it's gonna be.
(14:16):
I think this is USC football. And you could say
the team had made some vast improvements. But you can
also say, if your concern was that Lincoln Riley is
a guy who is only interested in calling fancy football
plays and not developing the whole football season, you can
make a pretty damn good argument that that is the case. Still,
(14:36):
So yeah, that's that's the situation. Well, the situation Saturday.
If Jed wins against Oregon Petros, his stock's going to
go up. And I got an email from our friends
over at Bovada who provide us.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Danny Canal every now and then.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know Danny, and they've got Jed fish as the
heavy one to one favorite to be the next coach
at Florida. You know, I know that there's been some
some thought about the guy from Missouri going down there.
But if Jed wins this game on Saturday, he might
be It might be enough. Maybe it's enough for someone
like Florida to say come on down to Gainesville at
(15:12):
you know, nine and three, and what you've done at
you dub is impressive. So the conversation we had with
Greg and Mario and Dick was a part of it.
In Jackson, would you rather have the win Saturday against
the Ducks and Jed takes off or is it more
important for Jed to stay and keep the band together
for year three?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I think that you'd probably take the former right blow
up Organ's chances for the playoff, or they'll still go
to the playoff, won't they. It's not a lock, not
a lock, no, But either way you're beating Oregon.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's the key, right, you take the win over Oregon
and you're not that connected to Fish? Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I mean I don't think he's long for the gig anyway.
I mean I think he's honestly, man, I think he's
doing he has never done anywhere long in his life.
I think he's doing a good job while he's here.
Those are two different things right now.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
You can't deny that he has done a fine job
since he's been there. Yeah, and he has to think
he's here what he deserved a head coaching job. He's
proved that when he got the one at Arizona and
turned them around, and he's done a pretty good job
at Washington. But I don't know what the future holds
as far as getting back to the college football playoff
title game.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, how about your buddy Jim Mora, you see that.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, that's an interesting one. But I know that Colorado
State's got a lot more money to spend now and
it's more of a desirable job. Maybe that they're going
to the Pac twelve. Maybe he's just tired of Connecticut.
You know, they're not affiliated with a conference, so that
has to be pretty hard, the scheduling part of it
and getting that all figured out. And you can't argue
(16:51):
with the results more as won nine games twice at
a place that people thought was impossible to win. So
give him all the credit in the world.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Well, there were some folks up here that wanted if
Jed walked out of here to go get Jim Mora.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, we went down this road twice.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
He might end up regretting it, like Jonathan Smith, right
taking the job at Michigan State before Washington came open
to where he could just hop over there. That place
he's much more comfortable and clearly and uh, that might
be a that might be something that Jim Mora regrets
going to Fort Collins too early there.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Right, Well, what would you hire Mora at you dope? Sure?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
If fish walked? Yeah, I like Moa, I like Leamora
a lot. Okay, it's a hard.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Place to coach, and he's had the most success there
that anybody's had this century.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Right, God, they looked awful against the Huskies, by the way.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah they're not good. They had like there two or
three weeks with Jerry Newheisel. Yeah, but they're not good.
They don't have a they don't have enough of a
supporting cast to support Nico, who's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
He wasn't good last week. He was terrible last week.
I mean maybe he was still dealing with the effects
of the concussion.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
He may have well, he went back out with a concussion.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
He may have gotten another one. Yes, that's what they
said in that in that game on Saturday. How about
how about Petros your guy Justin Wilcox man whacked by
cal Uh and now there's uh, there's reports and rumors
that he's going.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
To the head of the line to be the guy
with the beeves. How about that? Well, he's from Junction City,
isn't he. No, he played for the Ducks.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah, I mean he's right there, so that would be
a homecoming for him. And I know that he got
offered the Ducks job but didn't didn't want to hire
the staff that they wanted him to hire, so then
they ended up hiring Dan Lanning. So a lot of
people like Justin Wilcox, and I think he navigated the
cal situation about as well as anybody could. Cal is
not an easy place, and the quarterback he developed is
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gonna win the Heisman at Indiana this year. So I
give will Cox a lot of credit for things that
he's done over the years. And I think he's it's
just as good as a name as any that Oregon
State could hire to lead the program if he wants it.
I mean, I know he's a duck, but he's also
from right there, off the ninety nine, So good luck
(19:10):
to him.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
All Right, you got the next couple of days off
down there. I have to work today. No, I have
to work today.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I'll have tomorrow off and then I'm going to Detroit
to call the final game of the year, which will
be the Big Ten Championship between Maryland and Michigan State.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But it's at Fordsfield.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Big Ten Championship for the bottom. Yes, actually perdues the
worst team in the conference. So yeah, Maryland hasn't won
a game since you beat him.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, both teams have struggled. Miny leadersha is our buddy.
I don't know. I'll find out.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I will tell you. Maybe he gets the job at Connecticut,
I will tell you. Stop it, I will tell you.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I will tell you.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
After I talked to him, a right, tell him, I said, hello,
all right, Yeah, I'll tell him Yeah, you're a real
class act.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Tell him. I said, all right, you're the man.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Love you have a great Thanksgiving, best to the family,
and uh we love having you on.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
We really do you. You are a ray of light
and a sea of doom for my life every Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Because most people think I'm pretty negative guy, well imagine
being me.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Copy that.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Okay, Bud, see you all right, bet Betros Papa docus
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All right, buzz and girls, here we go on a
free Thanksgiving Wednesday afternoon right here on ninety three to
three KJRFM. And is our honor, as the kids like
to say, hashtag bless baby. What a pleasure, What an honor,
what an opportunity on this Wednesday, before we give thanks,
to bring in one of our friends, one of the
most sought after guests in sports talk radio, a star
(00:57):
in Southern California. Former you see superstar on the gridiron,
and that was Superstar and media, one half of the
Petros and Money Show in Southern California. My friend Petrose
Papadocus brought to you.
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Speaker 3 (01:36):
Hello softy, how are you? What's plan for tomorrow? What
does a big fat Greek Thanksgiving look like tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Ask me this.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Every year we go to my uncle Tom's house and
my aunt Ellen, and they put on a traditional American Thanksgiving,
and there's a few Greek dishes here and there.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There would probably be some pickled.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Octopus as a as an appetizer, and probably a span
a coffee time, which is the spinach and feta cheese
with the filo dough for dinner as one of the
side dishes. But other than that, pretty maybe a lamb,
but they'll also be a turkey. So traditional Thanksgiving to
say to say the least.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, I love that, I'm glad that you're spending up
with family and friends. I'm trying to get myself ready
for tomorrow, and I'm failing miserably. I told myself I
was going to fast every day this week so I
can stuff my gut on Thursday, and all I end
up doing is just eating everything in the kitchen that
we are supposed to be eating tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm getting fatter by the second.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Here, pal, Well take it easy, softy. You know, I
know it's been a rough year, but with the Mariners
and all that. But God bless you, and I'm very
thankful for you and your audience and nice people at
KJR that put me on and put up with me.
So I sure appreciate that. Well, we appreciate you being here.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I tell you what I would appreciate is a freaking
win over the Ducks on Saturday. Tell me the dogs
got a shot. They're getting six and a half. Vegas
thinks they're an underdog, but I don't know. I thought
they'd be maybe nine or ten point dogs on Saturday.
In this Oregon football team. To me, big boy, they
look a little beatable. I don't know, what do you think,
Oregon U dub Saturday?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
They look pretty good to me, But they're different on
the road, but I think they're a good team. I
can't believe how good Dante More is after CNM is
a true freshman at UCLA and challenged he was. He's
really come along. I love the two running backs. They
obviously have a special tight end, and they did a
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great job against USC.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Hold on, yeah right there sounds like somebody's knocking on
your door or something back there.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
No, they did a great job against USC stopping to run.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
The hell was that? Nothing?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
My internet's down and I was trying to see what
would work and okay, I had a rough call with Maryland.
The internet is very slow. Todd Locksley kept like blurring
out like Max.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Mike, Mike Locksley? Sorry, who the hell's Todd Locksley? I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry, man, that was a low blow.
You're in a mood. I can tell I am in
a mood. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well when when I'm strung when you're on the zoom
and the internet doesn't work and then there's a gout
of chainsaw outside hacking away at the trees in your
neighbor's yard, but all the crap is falling in your yard. Wow, Yeah,
it's you want to go address that.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I can't address it. I'm doing radio here for the
rest of the.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Day, okay, and because I'm doing well, because I'm doing
this right now, and then it's the worst traffic day
of the year, so I can't drive up to work
and take four hours.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah. Yeah, is he still hacking away outside? Yeah? I
can kind of hear it, to be honest. Yes they're hacky. Yes, yeah,
Well tell them to shut the hell up. I can't.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
They're not in my yard, and I don't know if
they're messing with the cables or what.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Tech rage is a real thing, man, I'm with you.
You know, when nothing works, it's very frustrating.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yes, it is very well. You know, you sit down,
you get ready for your conference call. Everybody expects you
to be the guy that runs a call, and all
of a sudden it doesn't work. And then you put
it up on your phone with the video component and
there's like a crazy echo and everybody hates you, and
that is how my day has gone.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, can you just try, like just get off the
internet and just go with like a typical five G
setup and be done with it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I don't know what you're talking about, I want you
to leave me alone. Okay, Well, let's talk about the kids,
saying Morgan stopped the run very well against USC, and
then they attacked it. They kicked USC's ass, right, And yes,
USC has two very good receivers who are very difficult
to cover throughout a whole game, but they did a
great job on Mackay Lemon and Jacoby Lane. USC really
(05:56):
kind of showed their undisciplined ass on Saturday against Oregon,
and Oregon did what you would expect them to do,
which is pretty much control the game. So I would
expect them to do the same against you guys. But
it's a rivalry game. Yeah, it's in Husky Stadium, so
I would say that dogs have more than a puncher's
(06:18):
chance in this one. I mean, overall, are you happy
with the way that Washington's played this season?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I mean really, it just comes down to the Wisconsin game, dude. Honestly,
like you're sitting there at eight and three and you
should be nine and two. You should have won the
Wisconsin game. And who knows, if Demand doesn't fumble on
third and twelve, they don't get the easy touchdown from
the seven yard line. They probably are nine and two
and they're in the CFP conversation, not saying they make
the CFP, but they're at least in the discussion.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
So if there's any disappointment, I guess the thing comes
down to that one game. But that is the thing though.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I mean, if you're Washington or your USC, the you
need to be in the College Football Playoff at this
point the way the playoff is structured for people to
feel good about where you're going unless you have a
true freshman quarterback and the whole team is young and
they were terrible the year before and they finally shown
some promise. You know, those circumstances, but you need to
(07:12):
be in the college football conversation for the playoff late
in November, and.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You could say that USC was.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You can kind of say that Washington was without that
game at Wisconsin. But the problem is the games where
they played up against college football playoff caliber teams, Notre
Dame for USC, Oregon for USC on the road in
Illinois when Illinois was playing at a high level, those
(07:43):
teams controlled the line of scrimmage and kind of controlled
the game even though Illinois had to drive to kick
a field goal.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
To win.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
They still were in control of that game for a
big part of it. And well, you say the same
about Washington, right with Ohio State and the game against Michigan,
who's not even I mean, they're in the playoff conversation,
but Michigan's got a freshman quarterback, So yeah, you're sort
of in the conversation. But at the same time, when
(08:12):
you're on the field with somebody who really is in
the conversation, there is a very big and noticeable difference. Yeah,
between the two teams, and I think that's frustrating for
the fan base down here at USC and probably frustrating
for you guys up there.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well, but there's I think, and you tell me if
I'm crazy about this, I think there's a little context
that you dub fans can at least fall back on,
and that as our team got blown to hell last
year when Cavin de Boor took off for Alabama, right, Like,
I mean, what do we expect that jet Fish was
honestly gonna have these guys in the playoff in year
two after taking over for a roster that got blown
(08:48):
to smithereens.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I mean, Lincoln Riley is I think that.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Argument doesn't hold any water anymore because of Indiana. Oh look,
I understand who else is doing that besides Indiana, But though,
I mean that guy went to Indiana in an unwinnable
situation for the last one hundred years and brings a
bunch of guys from the Sun Belt and dominates the
(09:13):
Big Ten. And now, I mean, whatever Lincoln Riley says,
Luke Fickle, anybody when they're not competing, you say, well,
what about this? What do you what do you what
do you have going on that this guy doesn't have
going on so he could have that success?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It is.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It is an amazing thing. I agree. I mean, the
Indiana thing is the burp in the universe. But nowadays
you got to make a decision about your coach, and
you really hope that your coach makes a decision about
you so he can start retaining the football team somewhere
early in November or late October, whether you're having success
(09:52):
or not. And that's why you look at Maryland and
they say, yeah, we're keeping this guy, or you look
at h Luke Fickle situation, Yeah we're keeping this guy.
They need to do that because if you don't, you're
months behind in recruiting and the portal and getting your
staff together. I mean, these guys have an unimaginably tough
(10:16):
job with the college football calendar, and they made it
easier by knocking down one of the portals and changing
the signing day.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But it's still very difficult for these guys. Who was this.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Did you guys talk about the USC reporter that went
after Lincoln Riley?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Oh yeah, I mean, don't apologize, right, Like, what are
we doing now?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
He's writing?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
So he's written like three open letters. I don't know
what he did for people. Lincoln Riley about a sign
at the game day that said something like retain Lincoln
Riley because he sucks, you know something? And the kid
asked about that, and how do you feel that your
opponents aren't afraid of you? Or so it was kind
(10:56):
of a ham fisted question. I believe that's how Pat
Forty wrote it. But at the same time, it's a
question that Lincoln Riley can answer. All you have to
say is no, I didn't watch game day. That's not
what we're concerned about. We got our own problems here.
And instead he took the opportunity to attack the young
guy and told him he was unprofessional, and yeah, that's
probably true.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
But what basically the guy said, how do you feel
about fans that don't want you to quit because they
think that you suck and they want to beat you everywhere?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:24):
And you know, there's a lot of different ways to
answer that question, and there's a lot of opportunities to
answer that question and look better than Lincoln Riley came
off looking. If that makes sense. We can all understand
his frustration the team lost and all that, but yeah,
it's and now the guy's all apologizing and stuff's like,
no one ever knew you before you asked the question.
(11:46):
Stick to your story and call the guy thin skinned,
but he probably got threatened by their sports information director
who put out a ridiculous game release. Did you see
that usc sid something about like duck hunting and we
have this many Heisman's Oregon has won, we have this
(12:08):
many titles, Orgon has zero, We've played in this many
Rose bulls.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Orgon has played in eight. You know, but isn't that
part of the release every week?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It was a real f you to Oregon. I mean
it read like a real It read like a real
few to Oregon.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
You. Yeah, but they used it as as bulletin board
material and obviously controlled the game, so I don't know.
And then USC had an assistant a D some guy
named Gavin Morris, an assistant a D like while the
organ band was on the field, go out near the
O and do like a TikTok dance and mock the fans,
(12:45):
and they're come on, swear to god, that's just douchey. Yeah,
it wasn't a good look for us the whole all
of Saturday, you know. And then to have that special
teams thing they did with Sam Hewart against Northwestern that
got people Twitter paid it, and then USC really leaned
into that and they kind of trolled everybody with Twitter stuff,
(13:07):
and my god, they put Sam Hewart in the kicker's shoes,
let alone his jersey, and had him throw a fake
punt against Northwestern, which everybody came out afterwards the Dean
Blandinos and Mike Perreiras of the world and said was
in fact illegal. Then all of a sudden, they go
up to Oregon in the biggest game of the year.
(13:28):
They run into the a fair catch, they leap over
the snapper, which creates a first down and a touchdown,
when they missed a field goal, they gave up a
punt return with a line drive punt at the at
the fifty. I mean they really laid an egg on
special teams. Some would say that was some karma involved there.
(13:50):
I don't really know, but yeah, USC really showed their
ass on Satday.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Well, I mean, this has got to be driving bananas.
He thinks she's going to clean house. I year, you know,
ask you is this the year? Is this the year
they buy him out? And just say the hell that.
Wilner says No, he thinks he's gonna stay, and I
don't think they're gonna afford to buy him out. And
I think he likes being in Pallas Verdi's and not
reaching out to people. And that's just what it's gonna be.
(14:16):
I think this is USC football. And you could say
the team had made some vast improvements. But you can
also say, if your concern was that Lincoln Riley is
a guy who is only interested in calling fancy football
plays and not developing the whole football season, you can
make a pretty damn good argument that that is the case. Still,
(14:36):
So yeah, that's that's the situation. Well, the situation Saturday.
If Jed wins against Oregon Petros, his stock's going to
go up. And I got an email from our friends
over at Bovada who provide us.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Danny Canal every now and then.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know Danny, and they've got Jed fish as the
heavy one to one favorite to be the next coach
at Florida. You know, I know that there's been some
some thought about the guy from Missouri going down there.
But if Jed wins this game on Saturday, he might
be It might be enough. Maybe it's enough for someone
like Florida to say come on down to Gainesville at
(15:12):
you know, nine and three, and what you've done at
you dub is impressive. So the conversation we had with
Greg and Mario and Dick was a part of it.
In Jackson, would you rather have the win Saturday against
the Ducks and Jed takes off or is it more
important for Jed to stay and keep the band together
for year three?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I think that you'd probably take the former right blow
up Organ's chances for the playoff, or they'll still go
to the playoff, won't they. It's not a lock, not
a lock, no, But either way you're beating Oregon.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's the key, right, you take the win over Oregon
and you're not that connected to Fish? Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I mean I don't think he's long for the gig anyway.
I mean I think he's honestly, man, I think he's
doing he has never done anywhere long in his life.
I think he's doing a good job while he's here.
Those are two different things right now.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
You can't deny that he has done a fine job
since he's been there. Yeah, and he has to think
he's here what he deserved a head coaching job. He's
proved that when he got the one at Arizona and
turned them around, and he's done a pretty good job
at Washington. But I don't know what the future holds
as far as getting back to the college football playoff
title game.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, how about your buddy Jim Mora, you see that.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, that's an interesting one. But I know that Colorado
State's got a lot more money to spend now and
it's more of a desirable job. Maybe that they're going
to the Pac twelve. Maybe he's just tired of Connecticut.
You know, they're not affiliated with a conference, so that
has to be pretty hard, the scheduling part of it
and getting that all figured out. And you can't argue
(16:51):
with the results more as won nine games twice at
a place that people thought was impossible to win. So
give him all the credit in the world.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Well, there were some folks up here that wanted if
Jed walked out of here to go get Jim Mora.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, we went down this road twice.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
He might end up regretting it, like Jonathan Smith, right
taking the job at Michigan State before Washington came open
to where he could just hop over there. That place
he's much more comfortable and clearly and uh, that might
be a that might be something that Jim Mora regrets
going to Fort Collins too early there.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Right, Well, what would you hire Mora at you dope? Sure?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
If fish walked? Yeah, I like Moa, I like Leamora
a lot. Okay, it's a hard.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Place to coach, and he's had the most success there
that anybody's had this century.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Right, God, they looked awful against the Huskies, by the way.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah they're not good. They had like there two or
three weeks with Jerry Newheisel. Yeah, but they're not good.
They don't have a they don't have enough of a
supporting cast to support Nico, who's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
He wasn't good last week. He was terrible last week.
I mean maybe he was still dealing with the effects
of the concussion.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
He may have well, he went back out with a concussion.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
He may have gotten another one. Yes, that's what they
said in that in that game on Saturday. How about
how about Petros your guy Justin Wilcox man whacked by
cal Uh and now there's uh, there's reports and rumors
that he's going.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
To the head of the line to be the guy
with the beeves. How about that? Well, he's from Junction City,
isn't he. No, he played for the Ducks.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah, I mean he's right there, so that would be
a homecoming for him. And I know that he got
offered the Ducks job but didn't didn't want to hire
the staff that they wanted him to hire, so then
they ended up hiring Dan Lanning. So a lot of
people like Justin Wilcox, and I think he navigated the
cal situation about as well as anybody could. Cal is
not an easy place, and the quarterback he developed is
(18:50):
gonna win the Heisman at Indiana this year. So I
give will Cox a lot of credit for things that
he's done over the years. And I think he's it's
just as good as a name as any that Oregon
State could hire to lead the program if he wants it.
I mean, I know he's a duck, but he's also
from right there, off the ninety nine, So good luck
(19:10):
to him.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
All Right, you got the next couple of days off
down there. I have to work today. No, I have
to work today.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I'll have tomorrow off and then I'm going to Detroit
to call the final game of the year, which will
be the Big Ten Championship between Maryland and Michigan State.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But it's at Fordsfield.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Big Ten Championship for the bottom. Yes, actually perdues the
worst team in the conference. So yeah, Maryland hasn't won
a game since you beat him.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, both teams have struggled. Miny leadersha is our buddy.
I don't know. I'll find out.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I will tell you. Maybe he gets the job at Connecticut,
I will tell you. Stop it, I will tell you.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I will tell you.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
After I talked to him, a right, tell him, I said, hello,
all right, Yeah, I'll tell him Yeah, you're a real
class act.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Tell him. I said, all right, you're the man.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Love you have a great Thanksgiving, best to the family,
and uh we love having you on.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
We really do you. You are a ray of light
and a sea of doom for my life every Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Because most people think I'm pretty negative guy, well imagine
being me.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Copy that.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Okay, Bud, see you all right, bet Betros Papa docus
with us on the air. Rick Newheisl, set to join us, said, five,
we're giving Heart of the Night off. He's a big
wig and he wants to spend time with his family,
so he gets it. Rick new Heil at five o'clock
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