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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder. The minisodes read.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You your stuff. You send us emails, so we got
to read them.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
You just keep doing it. Okay, you want to go first?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeat? Okay, all right, this one's called request for Items
Found in the Wall, and I have to show you
a photo halfway through. Okay, Hey, Karen and Georgia, you
guys asked for what did you find in the walls
on the rewind episode of ninety seven, and I immediately
knew I had one. A few years ago, I bought
a house built in nineteen twenty one just south of Dallas, Texas.
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The man who owned it before me, Burrel the hell
Sacha great name, was basically a local legend. He started
the neighborhood association and had lived in the house forever
when he and his wife so to me, he was
ninety nine and she was ninety three, and they were
still walking up and down the stairs every day.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, they were.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Honestly, I'm convinced the Fountain of Youth is hidden somewhere
in that house.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It's on those stairs, yet stairs, get the stairs going
on every day.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The property itself is kind of wild. When the house
was originally sold in the nineteen twenties. It came with
one hundred and twenty acres. Now it's surrounded by neighborhoods,
but it still feels like this tiny, surviving piece of
old South Dallas history. People would randomly stop by because
Burle had lived there for so long. I'd be outside
watering the plants or hauling construction debris, and people would
look at me and go, you're not Burl. Anyway. I
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started renovating the house while also working on a construction
job with insane hours. The entire place was torn apart,
plaster dust everywhere, walls open, exposed framing, so I was
basically living in a haunted construction zone. One night, I
came home super late and noticed something sitting on the
top shelf of my shoe rack. It was a doll,
a baby doll with wild hair, one eye half open,
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one eye half clothes, wearing a pe ink shirt and
absolutely no pants. Apparently my electrician had found her inside
the walls earlier that day. We affectually named her Tricksy.
Now I can't just read the rest of this she
because it sounds so normal. You have to see what
this fucking doll looks like, okay, so here's the picture
of the doll. Oh no, it is like no arms.
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Its face is just burnt to a crisp. It's just
it looks sacrificial. Yeah right, yeah, it's not a chill
little baby doll.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It is like, well, els, it's a baby doll wearing
no clothes in no arms is a bad combination.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Really, And it's someone cut all the hair off and
burned her face.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, she's which is pretty typical for leg dolls and
children whatever. But yeah, to if I were the person
and the electrician did that funny joke and put that
on my shoe rack, I'd be like, you'll never work
in this town again.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well. Oh, from that point on, Trixie became part of
the construction crew. Every day somebody moved her to a
new location to scare or someone else. I'd hide her
somewhere before leaving for work. Nathan, the electrician would move
her again. Later you'd open a cabinet and Trixie would
be there and see, this isn't as scary without knowing
what the fucking doll looks like. Right right, turn around
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in a dark hallway, Tricksy sitting in a wheelbarrow, tricksy.
Multiple contractors assured me the house was not cursed and
that the spirits were happy here, which honestly felt like
a very specific thing to hear from grown men covered
in plaster dust, Like why do you have to say,
how do you know about the spirits? Totally?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Is this the thing you do all the time.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
At the very end of the renovation, we built out
a new master bedroom. One day I realized I hadn't
seen Trixy for a while. Turns out one of us
had left her sitting on some framing lumber, and the
framers unknowingly sealed her directly back into the walls of
the house, back where she fucking came from. So somewhere
inside my beautiful, restored nineteen twenty one home, Trixie is
still there, waiting patiently to absolutely terrorize another homeowner sixty
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or seventy years from now when they decide to renovate,
Stay Sexy, don't get murdered by the old house and
spend way too much money restoring it, Laurel.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I mean, those framers need a good talking too, because
but that's a major decision to be like, we're putting
her back into the wall.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, but just the knowledge that she's there for the
rest of your time. You go to bed, good night, tricksy.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But like, if everyone is insisting that the vibes were
not bad, then I guess they weren't.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
If the vibes the construction workers will tell you that
shit where chit keeps happening? For sure? Right? Yes, so
the vibes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You would feel like they would be there, going.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh, yeah, we were working a lot of houses. This
one we're not coming back.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Never seen a ladder fall like that before, so creepy. Okay, Well,
it's tis the season, so I'm going to read you
a graduation party story. Dad's ingrats on all month long.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
The subject line of this email is an unforgettable graduation
party and it says, hello, all this story has everything snakes,
things and walls and drunk kids. Sorry, it's all our stuff.
To set the scene, my family went to a family
friend's high school graduation party in two thousand and six.
We were some of the first people to arrive, only
to find the mom pretty frantic, but not in the
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I'm not quite ready to host this party type of way.
You mean every single time I host parties? Why was
she frantic, you ask because the family's pet snake, Missus Alligator,
was missing.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Missus Alligator such a good name.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And then the next paragraph starts, Yes, the snake was
named Missus Alligator's so good. That's what happens when you
let an eight to ten year old boy get a
snake and name it. Oh so funny. It was unknown
how long Missus Alligator had been missing, but the lid
was off her tank and she was nowhere to be seen. No,
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we were told not to spread this news.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So good. It's the perfect little yeah variable to mix
in before this party.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Here's how it starts.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Is the snake in the punch bowl. Let's find out.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Snake in the toilet.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I told I know, I've told you this, But we
were driving down back Highway one and my friend Dave
and I had to stop because you know, there's nothing
ye in between gas stations. We had to stop it
and I do use one of those porta potties that
was just on and out look, oh my god. And
so I went in. I was like, oh, this is
the worst. I'm like stand outside, you know, like watch
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it for me or whatever. The door shuts. It's like
almost pitch black in no Wow, and I'm just squatting
over and then my friend Dave goes up to the
crack of the door and goes big black snake. He
just whispered the phrase big black snake, and I started screaming.
I've never forgiven him.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I would have fucking squatted in the field.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean, or just right out of the parking lot. Sure, okay,
so snake variable worst case scenario. Don't spread it around,
but keep an eye out for her during the party
so she didn't leave the house, is what they were
asked to do. I was never clear on what to
do if I saw her, because I was definitely not
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going to pick her up or go near her. Since
the party was catered by a Mexican restaurant, there was
also a frozen margerita machine set up for the adults.
Oh my god, this is awesome. Well, my dad decided
that there wasn't going to be any drunk kids on
his watch, so he posted himself next to the margherita
machine all night.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Mm hmm buzz kill.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Let's just say it's a good thing my dad isn't
in charge of any kind of security, because not only
were some kids able to sneak some margs. But my
dad got so drunk and on the way home my
mom had to pull over on the interstate twice for
him to be sick.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Oh God.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So he was just like glug glug Jimmy, buffetting as
he got his.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Arms, singing along with the margarita.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
He passed his test so good. And I'll tell you
what congratuate relations. Yeah, you know how you get in
here with me? Sneaky sneaks because everyone loves a happy ending.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Missus.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Alligator was found a day or two after the party
drum roll please in the wall in the wall meeting
with Trixy. Technically she was curled up in an air
conditioning duct, but those are in walls. And then it's
this little winky emoticon. Stay sexy and just let the
kids get drunk, Jenny.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I have so many questions, like what kind of snake
was it? Could it have hurt someone at the party.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I mean, I don't think that they let like eight
to ten year old boys keep poisonous snakes. Fair enough,
that's for college guys that love metal.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah that's true, don't you think? Yes? But like I
can imagine Vince had a party like he would have
screamed and ran. It's oh same, like if a spider
got out, I'd be like, I'm not coming to your
house again. Bye, good fuck good fuck yourself, goodbye and good.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Goodbye and good fuck yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Pay stop. Okay, that's what's called. It's me. I'm the
Vatican City listener.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Hi. Oh my god, when say it? Whenna?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
When it's not? Chick?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
No, no, look Spanish, I told you we needed to
be ready for this. Don't say chaw it's too casual.
Be the pope. What if this is from the postozy squozy.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Okay, Hi, Karen and Chorgia. It's me. I'm the Vatican
City Listener, or at least one of them, and I'm
so excited to write this email. No, I'm a twenty
seven year old get it, got the we gotta get
the we got it the Italian hand Oops. Okay, I'm
a twenty seven year old American Murderino living in Rome.
(09:54):
I was literally getting ready to leave my apartment and
go to the Vatican Archives when I heard you to
say you have listen Vatican City. Hi. I've been listening
to you for years, since I was an undergrad. I
just completed a six month internship in the Vatican Museums.
This is exactly what we asked, was exactly what we wanted,
and I used to listen to your podcast from my
desk and museum while I worked. I'm an art historian
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and a ceramic artist. I first came to Rome for
a ceramics residency and met my boyfriend and fell in
love with Rome and him. I came back to Rome
and earned my master's degree in art history and he
and I are very happily living together. Smiley face. He
is the absolute best and most supportive partner and a
very talented jeweler.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Oh that's a nice one.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
We have been through a lot, and your podcast has
always brought me comfort, especially hearing your lovely American voices
when my brain was extra tired from Italian. I'm back
in Langdwig school now. Two years ago I was in
a near death motor vehicle accident. I was hit by
a motorcycle while crossing the street as a pedestrian in
the crosswalk. Guys look both ways always.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's so awful. I know, what a scary, horrible thing.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Not something you'd expect, but god, I broke so many bones,
both legs, a rib, and my sacrum. I spent two
months in the hospital. For the first month I couldn't
even sit up, and I had to learn how to
walk again. Oh my God, And you better bet I
listened to a lot of my favorite murder in my
hospital room.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Oh you were been helped.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Wow, what a time you brought me a little bit
of normalcy and a lot of humor to an extraordinary
period in my life. And that made a big difference.
Heart emoji. And now I'm up and walking and wearing
stilettos on cobblestones and researching the Apostle like archives Apostolics,
I'm Jewish.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I don't care no excuse you've been sitting across from
me for ten years.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
My specialty in art history is material culture Renaissance floors.
Now that I can walk on them again, I'm interested
in how the choice of the material was shaped by
a world with broadening trade networks, and how the floor
is quite literally dictate the movement of the viewer and
their interaction with space. Think arrows on an airport floor,
but Renaissance tiles and ancient marble.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
That is so fucking cool, incredible. Also, I'm sure you'll
see them when you're there. But if you've ever seen
pictures of those mosaics that the floors used to be
in the ancient times, right, Like we went and saw
one once where just you're walking on this trend, like
a walkway over the top, and you're like, this was
just the floor about them, and it's like a whole
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scene and animals and still there.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Hell yeah, crazy. I don't have any crazy secrets to share,
but archival research is pretty fun, right yeah, right, right
now I'm looking at receipts of payment for some historical tiles,
and whenever I see the price of something, I hear
your voices in my head. Go so in today's money,
receipts from ancient tiles, from ancient receipts, that's crazy. Savior receipts,
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the Savior receipts. Please no, don't touch them. They're now
full of toxic.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Oh yeah, it's different.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
If either of you are ever in Rome, against you
and I would love to give you a free bootleg
tour of the city or the Vatican museums or anywhere
you'd like. Really, I'm not an officially licensed tour guide,
but I do have a master's degree in Roman art
history and so many stories. Not good enough.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You need to get that tour guide license.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's right. We won't go unless you have a license
around your neck.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
We need to see your paperwork.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It says SSTGM and lots of love from Rome mac
she her mackenzie. PS. If anyone else writes to you
from Vatican City, I'd love to meet them. Oh my god,
make friends with your coworkers.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Oh my god, that's how you meet people.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Jesus, is that you? Hi?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Thank you? Mackenzie mackenzie.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
What an honor he would be in your ears while
you are going through and experiencing such a rich life.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, that brings us back to where the fuck are
you listening to us from? Yeah? That's also like not
just where I think, like what time your life?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Because we were like, what are you doing when we're listening?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
And we're just like, what's the season of your life
look like while you're listening to us? Are you okay? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Like?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Are you better? Are you?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Are you getting better? Can we do any same thing
we can do?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Can we bring you some soup?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
We can bring you audio soup for the soul. It's
not chicken noodle. There you go, because there's an ip
play issue that was just such a full rich I
was just like, eugh, yeah, yes, totally very exciting. Goodbye.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
So this subject line of this email is hero Grandma,
and then in parentheses it says gold mine of cute
old lady names, and it says hey ladies, in honor
of my mom Karen's birthday, Karen with a sea I
never see that. I'm writing to tell you about the
time my grandma Eva saved her family from a fire
in the winter of nineteen thirty nine. My great grandparents
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Sid and Gladys. We're busy running a sausage business and
raising their nine children in a small wood frame house
in rural Kentucky Wow. That morning, it was snowing, so
great Grandpa Sid had adjusted the damper on the coal
burning stove to keep the housewarm and instructed the kids
to leave it alone for the day. He and Gladys
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packed up the horse and buggy and headed into town
to sell their sausages, leaving my fifteen year old grandma
Eva May in charge of her three younger sisters, Anna
Lie age ten, Mary Jane age three, and i'ma nell
age two great names.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
The girls spread out to enjoy their morning, little ones
playing in the bedroom and the older girls in the
main room. It wasn't long before Eva smelled smoke, and
just as she looked up, the ceiling erupted in flames.
The coal stove had caught fire, and the flames had
traveled straight up the flu above them. The whole attic
was already burning, and within minutes the rest of the
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house was too Oh my god. Eva did what any
older sister would do and use this opportunity to physic
pick up ten year old Anna and throw her out
the front door into the snow.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Ah she's been waiting.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Finally, finally, justified. Mary Jane got the same treatment and
was efficiently ousted from the now smoke filled house. But
when Eva ran back into the bedroom for little Nell,
she was nowhere to be found. She frantically searched Nell's
usual hiding spots with no luck, until through the smoke
she spotted two little feet under the bed. She dropped
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to the floor, yanked Nell out by the ankle, and
got out of the house just in time. Even and
Nell both sustained some burns, but they were all alive
and together.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Oh my god, she was like hiding under.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
The bed, yeah, trying to get away from the badge
so little. Meanwhile in the buggy, Sid and Gladys were
getting close to town when they passed a neighbor on
the road. Sid waved and hollered a quick good morning,
and the neighbor yelled back, turn around, Sid, your house
is on fire. Someone in town must have had a
telephone because the news of the fire had beat them there.
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You know what the land speed record is for horse
and buggy, But I bet they would have come close
to it that day, high tailing it back home, wondering
all the time if they'd just lost their girls. Oh,
they reunited and couldn't have cared less about the house,
knowing how that day might have gone, and the community
rallied around them to get them through that winter.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Oh, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh we lost Eva and my three other grandparents before
I was born. But I've always loved the story of
how she saved her sisters. Oh I can't the three
amazing women who loved me like grandmother's in her place.
Oh thank you. The idea of your sister picking you
up and throwing you out the door to save your life.
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It's so so older sister, I love it. Thank you
for all you do. And happy birthday, mom, Stay sexy
and always check under the bed.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Kelsey, Oh my god, what a like that story could
have gone terribly and she just fucking saved the day.
Dabbing your tears.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I could have sworn there was a box of clean
next there. Can I have one?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Fully saving the day?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Like, sorry, talk so much shit on big sisters.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I know you're pretty good sometimes.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
So I'm sure my sister's saved my life a couple
of times. I just don't remember.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I know for a fact has saved mine.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Okay, okay, it's also Pride Month. Oh so it says
I can't be the only one a Pride Month story? Yes, okay, hello, ladies,
love you all, love the podcast, love the animals. Let's
get into it. When I left college in Michigan to
move to LA and live the big dream, I found
out the big dream was living on a couch a
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friend kindly put in his kitchen because another friend had
already taken the one in the living room. Like, what
a generous friend to you, Like, I don't have room
in the living room. But I'll do anything to help you.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, I'll go ahead and put a couch in this kitchen.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Oh nice.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's that's the idea. It's just like, help as many
people as you can in La. That's the advice. I'd
total help as many people as you can, because you
have no idea where anybody's gonna go.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Right, But to also do it because you're a nice person,
not just because you want to get somewhere. Oh true, true,
But but you're not implying otherwise. So I don't mean
to say that.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Well yeah, just almost like you could be a nice
person but still be like, but I don't have enough couches.
It's like, but you do, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I got a job at a warehouse nearby so I
could walk to and from work. In a city like La,
if you don't have a car, you do a lot
of walking. At night. On my way home from work,
I would often find myself walking past a woman walking alone.
I'm a six to two black gay man, and I
can see how that would be a've bit intimidating, especially
knowing how men treat women in this world. So I
did the only thing I could think of to show
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her I was a good guy. I put on my
best Naomi Campbell runway walk. I even tucked my non
existent hair behind my ear to really sell the I
mean you no harm message, because who would ever hurt
anyone if the sidewalk is their runway? Yes, su fully
creepy men won't steal this idea and use this game
power for evil, But just in case, ladies, just be
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skeptical of all men walking alone at night. Anyways, I
just had to share it because I know I can't
be the only one who's done this. I'm pretty sure
this is common gay knowledge. I love you guys in
this podcast so much. It's such a comforting part of
my weekly routine. You guys are everything. Anyways, stay sexy
and do the Naomi Campbell walk, happy pride. Okay, okay,
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I love that, just to be like it's like, I'm
not a threat. Let me show you my my walk.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I saw someone say somewhere on social media someone said
they just start singing show too. Yes, I mean whatever
you can do.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I soon the one that were like they're like, hey,
I love your dress, and the girls like fuck you,
and he goes no, no, I'm sorry. I meant I
love your dress.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
That's so nice. Oh that's so funny. It must be
very satisfying to suddenly just be like, yeah, throwing your
hips as I just like, oh God, okay. The subject
line of this email is Doppelganger Grandpa and it says
Hello Karen, Georgia and pets. Every Thanksgiving, my family would
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make the ten hour drive from the middle of Wisconsin
to Florence, Kentucky, to visit my paternal grandparents. My dad
drove the entire way because that's just how he is.
He would always leave Wednesday in the middle of the
afternoon because he had to work. Typically we would get
there around one or two in the morning. My grandparents
lived in a cookie cutter neighborhood where every other house
looked exactly the same, so when we pulled into the
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driveway with the outside light on, we didn't question it.
We knew the routine after years of making the drive
and started unpacking the car. My brother, who was ten,
grabbed his suitcase and went right inside and down to
the basement where us kids always slept. My grandpa came
out in his pajamas and watched us unpacking the car.
Top carrier. I remember thinking Grandpa looks taller, but continued
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to grab suitcases and trash from the long journey. It
wasn't until the man said, in a thick Southern accent,
who are you people? We froze, baffled by our mistake
and started throwing shit back into the car, apologizing perfusely.
My dad hadn't even noticed this man was not his
dad at two in the morning. He looked identical to
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my grandpa except for height, down to the way he stood,
his sleepy expression, mustache, balding gray hair, big belly, and
even that thick Southern accent. Oh my god, my sister
whispered to my mom. Brett went inside so good. My
mom almost became a trash parent and told her to
go get him, but remembered she was the adult. She
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walked up to the man, quickly explained and went into
the house. She whispered to him down the stairs to
the basement. We are at the wrong house. And we
heard the thuds of his suitcase quickly coming off.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Like standing down everything, like what the this is weird?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Itmells weird down here. We didn't even bother to buckle
up as we backed out and drove our and drove
over two doors to my grandma. We laughed about it
all Thanksgiving break. My grandparents told us later that those
people were also expecting their family late that same night
and had just moved in a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
We never talked to the people during the years we
went to Kentucky for Thanksgiving until summer of twenty twenty four,
when my grandpa passed away. We were at the entrance
of the church greeting people at the funeral when an
elderly gentleman introduced himself and his wife to us. We
quickly learned that it was my grandpa's doppelganger. We exchanged
the story from our different perspectives and learned that they too,
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tell this story all the time. My best friend Katrina
and I saw you at the second show in Chicago
in November. We had an amazing time. Thank you for
never failing to make us laugh SSDGM Sarah.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
That is such a great legendary family story of like
such a great example and it's both directions exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's like the best part is, like how do they
tell the story?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, it's so good, so good.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Do you have a story from your perspective, send it
to us at my Favorite Murder at gmail. But thanks
for listening. And happy pride and happy grads and dads.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Happy pride, gay power. Yeah, stay sexy.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And don't get murdered.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Goodbye, Elvis. Do you want a cookie? This has been
an exactly right production.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Our senior producer is Molly Smith and our associate producer
is Tessa Hughes.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Our editor is Aristotle Ascevedo.
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This episode was mixed by Leona Squalacci.
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