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November 6, 2024 13 mins

The day before Thanksgiving is a big drinking day in America. Who knew!? Is it in your home?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy, Sam and Jody after the Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
We introduced a little bit of a new term to
us in the show today, and maybe it's not a
new term to you, but drinks giving, right. I had
never heard of that, but it's it's a funny play
on words.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
It sounds like more of a joke to me than
an actual thing. But I guess it is an actual thing.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's just a term.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
It makes sense.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
It has to do with the day before Thanksgiving, Wednesday
before Thanksgiving, apparently being a very big drinking day in America.
I didn't realize this. We're driving sort of a day
we travel on that day, Yeah, we do. I've never
had drinks on that day that I can ever recall.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
We're going to you know, we always go to your cousins,
and when we do that, you wind up having that
sangria thing, mix up the whatever you'll get.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's a sangrea we make it.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
But that's usually day right, or on Black Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
We actually don't even drink on Thanksgiving Day. Yeah, yeah,
but the word is it's a big day for bars
and pubs and all of that. And when we kind
of mentioned that here, you know, today in the show,
you and I we all had a kind of a
little laugh about it because you said that was a
big thing in your family, Murphy on Thanksgiving, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
It because they were trying to do drinks giving because
they drank.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah when they got together, and you said, you know,
the turkey wasn't anything marinated.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, and that was probably more of a I guess
it was possible on Thanksgiving night also, But the Christmas
night gatherings were the same thing too, ho ho. A
lot of yeah, a lot of drinking. I'm a big
party that would you know. That's just the way they
did it.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Complete opposite when I was growing up, because.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well you grew up in your grandfather is a preacher.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
So exactly. And it was dry, you know what I mean,
like dry turkey and dry.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
No, not really joking, which is sometimes the worst because
that means people are in the back sneaking fans, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
No, that family gathering that you still go to, there's
nobody sneaking anything.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, I mean they were. Now, there were a few
people that acted drunk back then. Maybe they're just acting now.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
The other side of my family, my other grandmother.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
The other side, Oh, yeah, well that was my.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
First experience with someone who was an alcoholic.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, well she really yes, correct.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
You never knew her. She died when I was ten
years old. Now when she was when I was young,
I didn't realize that she was drinking. I just thought
she was fine, funny. Yeah, yeah, and I bring it
all up drinks giving. We had to laugh about it.
We're not here to make light of any alcohol situation
at all. It's just it's funny how different generations see

(02:48):
it and different people see it. You know, you guys
are able to laugh about it because of your experiences.
It's also been a very serious thing in both of
your life.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah. Well that's why Sam and I don't drink anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I mean when I was younger, Yeah, I'd be happy
to take part in drinksgiving because that was like at
that age.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, yeah, when I was a little girl growing up
watching TV. Because there was not a lot of drinking
in my house. There was some socially every once in
a great while, but there was not a lot of drinking.
I was not raised around a lot of drinking except
my grandmother. That grandmother, but that was hidden. That was
definitely a secret. You know what I mean I was
a kid, I thought she was funny and it was
one of those things that was a secret. But I

(03:28):
remember watching well, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
It wasn't hidden or was it obvious that she was
I mean, she probably.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Was obvious to an adult that she was drunk. To me, no,
I thought she was just funny. Yeah, okay, I didn't
know until I was older and I heard all the whispering.
And it was a subject that was difficult to bring
You couldn't bring it up, You couldn't talk about it. Okay,
it was it was a family secret. Anyway, going back
to watching TV, I thought drinking was something that you know,

(03:54):
only rich people did, or it was a very you know,
sort of fancy thing to do, you know, watching Let's
just I would sneak watching soapropers and it would be
like the you know, the important people in the suits
would have their drink when they got home on TV.
And that's just the way it was.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
That's wild, because I mean in our house it was
which drug store had the cheapest vodka, you know, something
fancy about it?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Really, you know, yeah, do you know that generationally, I.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Didn't know Eckards had their own vodka that they did
at that time, right, do you know that they had
some pretty cheap scotch.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
This is something that will make you feel good about
the younger generation, about power kids. They see it as
more unhealthy than we do.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Oh yeah, I just did. There is a totally different.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Book today, alcoholism in general, addiction in general.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Think about our parents' TV shows, like the things that
they would watch. Drunks were like funny characters. You know
what I'm saying, something that just none of that would
be well ar three, yeah, Big movie, Dudley great, and
it was.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
A drunk on Andy Griffith's show.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh I didn't remember that. What was his name?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I would I never watched I never really watched.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
The Andy Griffith show much. I mean, I know Andy
Griffith on not It's not that.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's only older stuff that where that comedy meets that
because think of The Hangover. The Hangover's my favorite comedy
and it's about a hangover. It's about the worst night
and those implications and all the things that happened. But
I just find it interesting that our kids and I
love that, how they are in a different My all

(05:36):
of my introductions to alcohol were you know what my
parents and my family showed me that you don't do it.
It's bad, or it's secret, you know, or it's something
fancy people do on TV. You know. And now there's
so much education, our kids have a better view of it.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, it is a different world.
You know. When my dad, who was dry for thirty
years after I'm so proud of him, But we said
there was he was funny when he was drinking too.
We didn't know that as kids. It was until later
we realized it was a problem. At first. You think
it's funny until you you know, until you see them
struggling with it later, and it's in Look, when somebody's
drinking all day long, every day. Yes, obviously that's a

(06:20):
different thing all together. But you know, some of my
you know, funniest moments there were my dad watching the
newscast drunk and his commentary. I learned a lot of
my words that way from him, you know, all the
curse words.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Anyway, how were you introduced to it and as a child.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Drinking sam My dad was an alcoholic, but he never
drank around the house. In fact, we only had a
couple bottles in the house and I never saw anybody
ever touch those.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's weird tied it that you know of. Or he
never drank it home.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
You didn't drink at home. No, he hit it, but
it was at work. I mean from what I understood
found out after the fact that he was going through
a lot of vodka day at work. He had in
his drawer in the office.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, and that's where they found my dad's scotch, same
thing in those last days. It just really you know,
and he was my dad was in his late forties
by that point. Maybe you know. It's yeah, I mean,
it's that's a different league altogether. And it progresses into that,
I think before the person who's consuming it knows it.
But look, not everybody who drinks is an alcoholic, right,

(07:24):
I mean, it's people can do it, and as long
as it's socially responsible and you don't get behind the wheel,
there's nothing wrong with that. Anything, you know, consumed in moderation.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
But you know, so what I'm asking you, though, Sam,
is what did you think of it growing up? Did
you have a positive association with it, something funny or
something secretly sad?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I I was too young to know. When he would
come home drunk because yeah, he was just funny, or
he would disappear, like go in the back in his bed,
in their bedroom or you know, so you wouldn't be
seeing that As far as other relatives. I only saw
that like a Thanksgiving or at Christmas and the relatives
that were drinking around the table. We're having a couple

(08:02):
of glasses of wine. It wasn't like it was a
throwdown or like this put the bottle here because we're
not leaving. It was people who drank responsibly.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Right, that's good.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Then you had a you know, a mostly good introduction.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
To and then I got to college.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, and then yeah, I took off experimented.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, So the environment that I grew up in between
the part because drinking was just part of what they did,
especially on Friday nights. It was Friday night, you know,
family get togethers, and alcohol was always part of that.
So I grew up thinking that that was supposed to
be part of a gathering. Honestly, I did, you know,
And so like, you know, even the gatherings because Christmas
was always Christmas Night was always at my grandparents' house,

(08:44):
grandmother and grandfather, my dad's parents, and when my grandfather itself,
and when he was still alive. I was ten when
he passed away. But I mean I remember how those
parties would, you know, go after all the presents were done.
I mean it would go late until the evening and
then every now sometimes it was laughter, sometimes it was
an argument, things got really loud or whatever. But you

(09:07):
when you're used to the environment, it's really weird. As
a kid, I guess you don't. You don't think about it.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, that's your normal.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
But the one of the weirdest things that I remember
at my grandmother's house. I don't think I've ever told
you this, Jody, because I don't really think about it.
So they, my grandparents would both drink out of their glasses.
I guess if you have a designated glass you drink
out of, by the way, you probably have a problem.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Maybe, well we all have tumblers today.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I don't know. Yeah, well, maybe you're right, coffee or whatever.
But it was a little plastic kind of an insulated
in green avocado green, just like the you know, seventies,
and a little white lip around it. And I don't
know that it was actually particularly dishwasher safe, so the
inside was over time it cracked right, a little bit.
And so if you'd pick the cup up and take

(09:56):
it out, you could shake it and you could hear
something moving around and an alcohol it's all out. If
you smelled it, it smelled like alcohol. It was really
really weird. And I remember, you know, because the alcohol
was leeching through the plastic, which may be another indicator,
but anyway, now it was because the glass was But
it's I don't know why that jumps out at me,

(10:17):
but I think about that. But again, seriously, when I
was a kid, it's like, oh, yeah, that's right, that
skipper's drinking glass, and again not thinking twice, it was
what it was, right, right, correct.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I do want to say something to the statement you
made a little earlier about the kids today are more
aware of it. Yes, that's probably the experience you're getting
around your kids. Yes, I want to say that I've
been out pregaming, not specifically with my kids, but you know,
with fraternity where they gather for football games, right, fraternities

(10:50):
and sororities, and I have seen a lot of stuff
that reminded me of college.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Sure right there.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, there are kids who are aware, but then there
are kids who are still.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well don't misunderstand either. I'm not saying my kids have
not partaken. Yeah, you know, got one. We got one
who especially loves a party. But they do have more
I will say this, they do have more education about
it because of just the world we live in.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Fewer of them that are getting carried away with it.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
We can google anything. But we've also it's also what
they're exposed to. They've been exposed to their dad saying
I'm I'm going to stop doing this because I absolutely
can't do it.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
And well, that was the conversation, just to explain. Look,
sometimes it's genetic creditory however you want to classify it.
You may have the gene, you may not have the gene.
You just be aware. But I mean, to me, what's
more important. I mean, I want them to have that
message obviously, But you know, alcoholism itself becomes progressive at
different speeds and different people. Sometimes it goes years and

(11:52):
years before it before you really if you ever realize
it's a problem, until something hits you.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
In the face, we'll realize it's a problem.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
The But you know, what I do think is a
really good message, and it can't be stated enough, is
designating the driver or today Uber makes it easier than
it's ever been before. And you know, before twenty ten,
there really wasn't any Uber going on, you know what
I mean, And so so we've got a good fourteen
years behind is now of options you know, Uber and

(12:22):
Lyft and just ride shares in general, so that you
don't have to get behind the wheel, which is a
different element. And I do think that that message actually
is stronger today and more understood than it has been.
Doesn't mean that people still don't do it and make
dramatically horrible mistakes.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Or overdue, but at least you don't have to also
compound the overdoing with you know, deadly right, deadly mistake.
I just wanted to talk about it because there's so
many you know, there's so many feelings about drinking. It's social,
it's everywhere, it's legal at a certain age, and it's acceptable,

(12:59):
and yet so many people struggle with it. There's so
many things about drinking, and I feel like we should
talk about it every once in a while, and just
slinging drinks giving into the show today. I just I
need it a little more.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
You know, usually when when that comes to you, you
wind up with the sober version, sober version. Just like
we have cocktails and mocktails, is there a drinks giving
sober version of drinks giving?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's mocktail.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I guess you make it if you want it, right,
I mean, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Drink them if you go.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I mean a fancy name.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh, I don't know. I'll work on it, okay. Missed
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