January 29, 2025 • 14 mins
The Matthew Perry Foundation has made a big step in the advancement of addiction medicine. So, what is that?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jodi after the Show podcast from.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
The show today.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
In Three Things to Know Today, one of those segments
the third story, do you guys remember itsword? Well, it's
something that I thought was just lovely and I wanted
to add it, but I wanted to go a little
deeper into it. And it's that the Matthew Perry Foundation,
along with the Massachusetts General Hospital, which is in Boston,
(00:26):
they created an Addiction Medicine Training Fellowship in his name,
which is beautiful. I mean, this is something other than
just like fundraising. This is different. And so there's a
doctor there. She's a medical resident in internal medicine. Her
name is doctor Sarah klerk kel k l e rs
how that's spelled. She's the first one candidate to have
(00:49):
been selected for the position the fellowship, So she's the
one that's going to be doing that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
She's the first one. I don't know how long it lasts.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I guess the year or two years that she studied
these addiction medicine and I just thought, wow, that's so
cool because how many times have we had these conversations
about addiction and how it continually needs to be studied
we're talking about something that when I was a child.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Was hush hush.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, like you know, there were people in my family,
adults in my family when I was a child, who
were definitely addicted to chemicals and substances, and it was
hush hushed, like we didn't talk about it. You know,
she's coming.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well, it's a different generation.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It is, makes goodness.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's the only thing that I don't care for about
that generation, and I respect them, but I don't care
for that is secrets. They're the worst things. They're poison.
They usually blow up somewhere, and you know, thanks to
a combination of either someone passing away or twenty three
ande meters or something else you line up with. You know,
secrets that you know, get exposed that could have otherwise
(01:54):
just been talked about. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
We know as a kid, you're either very in tune
to the adults around you or you just accept what
they say and you're you're you're you know, enjoying being
a kid. Hopefully I enjoyed being a kid, but I
was definitely in tuned to the adults around me and
their energy, and I soaked it up like a sponge.
And you know, I always knew that this person was.
(02:17):
I thought she was funny. I thought she was always
just funny. But the way my mom and dad would
talk about her when she was not there, Oh this
is not funny.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah it's not, and they don't like it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
When you're a kid, though, it's like anything else that
you know, you're taught, it's going to have to be
age appropriate because you don't really have comprehension until of
certain things until you get older. But before we go
back that, so I go back to the beginning of
the fellowship, help me understand what that is.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Well, this specific fellowship, it's going to let the doctor
concentrate on addiction treatment and addiction care so that when
she's done with the internship as a resident she becomes
a doctor, that's going to be her.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Special So she's not a doctor yet. This is a resident.
So this is the grant.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
This is the grand to help her study all that stuff,
and then when she becomes a doctor and gets her license,
that's what she's going to focus on, addiction treatment and recovery.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
What a great use of donation money.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Correct them creating this from the Matthew Perry Foundation. I
think we're going to hear more about that foundation and
what they're doing, But think about his life. This is
what a way to honor him, because think about how
many times you guys read the book.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I read the book.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Too, so many of us read the Matthew Perry book.
How many times did he try to get help medical help?
And he you know, he didn't fail, but he struggled
there or he really wanted medical help, and that's where
he always ended up in the doctor's office in the hospital,
(03:45):
and there were people who could not understand what he
was dealing with well.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And then the other part, which I don't know that
the study that this fellowship covers is doing that, but
it would be a place that something should go, is
the people around Matthew Perry. Remember, as they least everything,
we're kind of supporting his habit at that point. What
was it ketamine? Is that what it was? And so
you know it's it's like.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
There are other drugs in his system, too.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Right, but but that that was the one that actually
I think got him right. But you know it was
his assistant. It's like, what is the psychology behind not
understanding that? Is it the pressures of the fact that's
Matthew perry with the money. But if it's a friend
of your you know what. You know, what I'm saying
is that like its own at all non kind of program,
(04:33):
you know what I mean? How many now you know
you're supporting? What's that called when you I can't think
of the term behavior?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, I'm not I'm not saying that he wasn't in
the wrong. This person I think has been charged in
his murder and but or a wrongful death. But imagine
that it's your livelihood to take care of this person.
You're a you're a personal assistant, and you may you
make a really good living being this person's personal assistant.
(05:04):
And they ask you for something, you know, once a
week and it's part of the job. They also ask
you to pick up fast pick up fast food, or
pick up dinner, or pick up the dry cleaning, and
also get me this. You know that it's not right,
but all this stuff is going right for you, And
these are decisions that he's making. You know, if you
are around that, yes, be careful well, and that's how
(05:24):
you support it.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yes, And that's exactly what I'm saying. The study at
some point should encompass the support systems because that's part
of it too, right. I mean, it does start with
the person who needs to be able to stop the habit,
but the support system is a fact keep's it going.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, you know, Jody, you mentioned that the people in
your family when they were addicted or whatever, they you
didn't talk about it, but you recognize.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It through putting pieces together as a child over years. Yes,
I put it together. And finally I will say this,
credit to my parents for one afternoon I found I
remember finding it weird. We went to McDonald's. We walked inside,
(06:11):
ordered food, and sat down at a booth and it
was me, my brother, my mom, and my dad and
I found that unusual because we didn't go to McDonald's
to eat very often and to go walk inside, and
they were both acting.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Tense.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
And I've never even told you this story, Murphy. But
they sat us down and says, look, okay, let's eat.
But the reason we're sitting you down here, we're about
to go to the hospital and she is in the hospital.
And I was like, oh, I didn't know she was
in the hospital, someone I loved very much. But props
to my parents for being honest with us that she
(06:49):
has a problem. She's in the hospital again. Her health
is failing, but it really all stems from this problem
that she has with alcohol and mixing drugs with alcohol,
mixing prescription drugs with alcohol. It was a very difficult
thing for my father to speak to us. It was
a very tense conversation. But it was the first time
(07:11):
they ever and I remember going, oh, she's been in
the hospital a lot and we've never been allowed to go.
And you know, we always think she's hysterical when she's
around us, and you guys get tense and me and
my brother are laughing. It's like you put pieces together.
But they didn't say she's an alcoholic or she's addicted.
(07:32):
They didn't say those words. They just said, we're going
to see her in the hospital. I probably want you
to understand why she's here.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Heah. They explained it in terms for that age you
would get and.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Understand correct and that was Look, it was hard for them.
I can remember I was one of those kids. If
you have a house full of kids, some of them
are in their own world and some of them are
paying attention to your every energy and your every move
and word. And I was that girl, that kid, And
I remember overhearing my parents having a fight and heated
(08:01):
argument once about something that was on TV, some you know,
weak night movie and it was about addiction, and my
dad got up and turned it off, and Mom's like,
what do I was watching that?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't want to hear about that? What are you
gonna just.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Bury your head?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You can't handle it. I mean, it was and I
knew it was about her.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I knew the point of, you know, the pain point
for him was about that woman in our family that
that we loved.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Again, different generation, I would hope. I'm sure those conversations
still happen today on some level, but they're probably less
likely to take place today in a world where finally
there's acceptance. And so when my dad, you know, before
he went into rehab, and my dad was an alcoholic,
he drank pretty heavily for about it was actually about
(08:49):
eleven years. It's weird, it seem longer than that because
I was a kid, but I mean he was drinking.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Because it was all day every childhood.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, And and by the end it's one of those
where there were glad is hidden all over the place
and you know, all that kind of stuff. And my
mother would address it with him, the frustration. But the
problem was he was never sober enough to hear that.
And it was my uh, but my mother was an
enabler at one point early on too. You don't know
you're the enabler. Early on. I think for whatever reason
(09:20):
she was going and she was buying the.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Alcohol, she was probably also buying everything else. The food
was shredge too, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But then it was also the she was buying it
because she didn't want him to drive. And then my
grandmother and her would start to have conversations about it
and you know, and eventually became well. I went beyond intervention.
It was one of those where he had he passed
out and when he wasn't conscious, they dragged him to
the rehab center and he was impatient for thirty days
and he never drank one day out of his life
after that. He was sober for thirty years until he
(09:46):
passed away. He's lucky he didn't have cirrhosis. His blood
alcohol level was point four to five. He should have
been dead. They needed to medicate him and all that.
But anyway, my point is that the family did talk
about it, so we were all aware of the problem
and we would all talk to him about it. It just
wasn't it. It wasn't a secret. It just didn't it
(10:07):
didn't cut.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You just all lived with it, right, And it does
affect everyone. It does seep into everyone. It's not just
the person who has the addiction. And there's so much
to know about it. There's just so much to know.
It's not something you can just well, just be tough
and stop doing it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It doesn't work that way. That's the right, But you don't.
You don't know that. When you're younger, you know, you'll hear, well,
she needs to just stop it.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah. Well, and again I think that's our generation. I
think today there's a big understanding of you know, addiction.
That's why opioid you're a problem today. You're talking about something.
I'm not going to say anything is worse or better
than alcohol or whatever, but that's the kind of thing
that it doesn't it doesn't take much and you're in
it and you're hooked, and your body is going to
become addicted to it, and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And you get prescribed it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
A lot of synthetic substances are far more addictive than
anything previous, and so it's the reason that the conversation
has to happen. It's the reason the conversation has to
happen when kids are you know, are young. And I
mean I think, for example, our daughters Jody are very
well aware of that because between schooling and they grew
up in a family where they know that, you know,
(11:13):
my dad was an alcoholic. I stopped drinking almost fourteen
years ago now, and so they understand, you know, all
of those pieces. I would the study that this fellowship
is about, I bet it goes into really deep you
know space asp and it needs to go into the
very current spaces which are there's alcohol is still an issue,
(11:35):
but it's the opioids, it's the other addictive properties and
things like that, and the everything surrounding you know, that
kind of addiction that I'm assuming this medical student is studying.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Well, the reason I was just I wanted to talk
about it more beyond three things to know today quickly
just telling you it's such good news because it really
does affect everyone, this fellowship that they've created, the Matthew
Perry Foundation, because it is in every family. If you
think it's not in every family, it's just not unveiled.
(12:07):
It isn't every family to different degrees for different reasons
what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And you know, he was out of the public eye.
Matthew Perry was out of the public eye for so
long after you know, Friends, He did a couple of movies,
but he hadn't done anything in the years leading up
to his death that really gave public attention other than
the Friends reunion, which if you remember seeing him at that,
he wasn't doing so great there either knew there was
there was right, there was speculation, you know of that,
and he is very honest in his book. You know.
(12:35):
It's the thing about the memoir is you you really
you were pulling from I think you felt like, Okay,
well he's yeah, he's still dealing with it, but he's
got this now. But at this but we had no
idea what was going you know on behind the scenes again,
you know, And so yeah, that's that's it's it's good
(12:55):
to be studied. It's a shame that it's still closeted.
I think secrecy is always going to be part of
the problem, you know, until it's actually that's why interventions
are what they are.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Right, It's human too. There's probably a lot of families.
Going back to what you said earlier, the secrecy, it's
human to want to keep keep it on the low.
Maybe if it's your family, you don't want you don't
want to be embarrassed, you don't want to be embarrassed,
or you don't want someone to think that your father
is you know, one way or the other. It's I
don't think that it's a it was intended to be
(13:25):
a secret. Oh no, it's a you know, it's a
well it's human to do that in family.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Well in the case of you know, the Matthew Perry
thing or anything like that, where there are less than
legal things that are going on, of course that's not
going to be public, you know what I'm saying until
there's an investigation, and that's a legal thing, right exactly.
You know, the way that the substances were being acquired
and all that sort of stuff, obviously you know, was
not the legal way to do it.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I don't know if you know this, Jody, but do
you know if they're going to try to expand this
to other hospitals around the country.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I hope So.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I don't know that yet. It was just announced there hospital.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Nice to be nice to see fellowships set up at
a number of hospitals.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Right, and this certainly could be the model for it. Yeah,
Welcome to the Murphy Salmon Jodi after the Show podcast from.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
The show today.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
In Three Things to Know Today, one of those segments
the third story, do you guys remember itsword? Well, it's
something that I thought was just lovely and I wanted
to add it, but I wanted to go a little
deeper into it. And it's that the Matthew Perry Foundation,
along with the Massachusetts General Hospital, which is in Boston,
(00:26):
they created an Addiction Medicine Training Fellowship in his name,
which is beautiful. I mean, this is something other than
just like fundraising. This is different. And so there's a
doctor there. She's a medical resident in internal medicine. Her
name is doctor Sarah klerk kel k l e rs
how that's spelled. She's the first one candidate to have
(00:49):
been selected for the position the fellowship, So she's the
one that's going to be doing that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
She's the first one. I don't know how long it lasts.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I guess the year or two years that she studied
these addiction medicine and I just thought, wow, that's so
cool because how many times have we had these conversations
about addiction and how it continually needs to be studied
we're talking about something that when I was a child.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Was hush hush.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, like you know, there were people in my family,
adults in my family when I was a child, who
were definitely addicted to chemicals and substances, and it was
hush hushed, like we didn't talk about it. You know,
she's coming.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well, it's a different generation.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It is, makes goodness.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's the only thing that I don't care for about
that generation, and I respect them, but I don't care
for that is secrets. They're the worst things. They're poison.
They usually blow up somewhere, and you know, thanks to
a combination of either someone passing away or twenty three
ande meters or something else you line up with. You know,
secrets that you know, get exposed that could have otherwise
(01:54):
just been talked about. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
We know as a kid, you're either very in tune
to the adults around you or you just accept what
they say and you're you're you're you know, enjoying being
a kid. Hopefully I enjoyed being a kid, but I
was definitely in tuned to the adults around me and
their energy, and I soaked it up like a sponge.
And you know, I always knew that this person was.
(02:17):
I thought she was funny. I thought she was always
just funny. But the way my mom and dad would
talk about her when she was not there, Oh this
is not funny.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah it's not, and they don't like it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
When you're a kid, though, it's like anything else that
you know, you're taught, it's going to have to be
age appropriate because you don't really have comprehension until of
certain things until you get older. But before we go
back that, so I go back to the beginning of
the fellowship, help me understand what that is.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Well, this specific fellowship, it's going to let the doctor
concentrate on addiction treatment and addiction care so that when
she's done with the internship as a resident she becomes
a doctor, that's going to be her.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Special So she's not a doctor yet. This is a resident.
So this is the grant.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
This is the grand to help her study all that stuff,
and then when she becomes a doctor and gets her license,
that's what she's going to focus on, addiction treatment and recovery.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
What a great use of donation money.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Correct them creating this from the Matthew Perry Foundation. I
think we're going to hear more about that foundation and
what they're doing, But think about his life. This is
what a way to honor him, because think about how
many times you guys read the book.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I read the book.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Too, so many of us read the Matthew Perry book.
How many times did he try to get help medical help?
And he you know, he didn't fail, but he struggled
there or he really wanted medical help, and that's where
he always ended up in the doctor's office in the hospital,
(03:45):
and there were people who could not understand what he
was dealing with well.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And then the other part, which I don't know that
the study that this fellowship covers is doing that, but
it would be a place that something should go, is
the people around Matthew Perry. Remember, as they least everything,
we're kind of supporting his habit at that point. What
was it ketamine? Is that what it was? And so
you know it's it's like.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
There are other drugs in his system, too.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Right, but but that that was the one that actually
I think got him right. But you know it was
his assistant. It's like, what is the psychology behind not
understanding that? Is it the pressures of the fact that's
Matthew perry with the money. But if it's a friend
of your you know what. You know, what I'm saying
is that like its own at all non kind of program,
(04:33):
you know what I mean? How many now you know
you're supporting? What's that called when you I can't think
of the term behavior?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, I'm not I'm not saying that he wasn't in
the wrong. This person I think has been charged in
his murder and but or a wrongful death. But imagine
that it's your livelihood to take care of this person.
You're a you're a personal assistant, and you may you
make a really good living being this person's personal assistant.
(05:04):
And they ask you for something, you know, once a
week and it's part of the job. They also ask
you to pick up fast pick up fast food, or
pick up dinner, or pick up the dry cleaning, and
also get me this. You know that it's not right,
but all this stuff is going right for you, And
these are decisions that he's making. You know, if you
are around that, yes, be careful well, and that's how
(05:24):
you support it.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yes, And that's exactly what I'm saying. The study at
some point should encompass the support systems because that's part
of it too, right. I mean, it does start with
the person who needs to be able to stop the habit,
but the support system is a fact keep's it going.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, you know, Jody, you mentioned that the people in
your family when they were addicted or whatever, they you
didn't talk about it, but you recognize.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It through putting pieces together as a child over years. Yes,
I put it together. And finally I will say this,
credit to my parents for one afternoon I found I
remember finding it weird. We went to McDonald's. We walked inside,
(06:11):
ordered food, and sat down at a booth and it
was me, my brother, my mom, and my dad and
I found that unusual because we didn't go to McDonald's
to eat very often and to go walk inside, and
they were both acting.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Tense.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
And I've never even told you this story, Murphy. But
they sat us down and says, look, okay, let's eat.
But the reason we're sitting you down here, we're about
to go to the hospital and she is in the hospital.
And I was like, oh, I didn't know she was
in the hospital, someone I loved very much. But props
to my parents for being honest with us that she
(06:49):
has a problem. She's in the hospital again. Her health
is failing, but it really all stems from this problem
that she has with alcohol and mixing drugs with alcohol,
mixing prescription drugs with alcohol. It was a very difficult
thing for my father to speak to us. It was
a very tense conversation. But it was the first time
(07:11):
they ever and I remember going, oh, she's been in
the hospital a lot and we've never been allowed to go.
And you know, we always think she's hysterical when she's
around us, and you guys get tense and me and
my brother are laughing. It's like you put pieces together.
But they didn't say she's an alcoholic or she's addicted.
(07:32):
They didn't say those words. They just said, we're going
to see her in the hospital. I probably want you
to understand why she's here.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Heah. They explained it in terms for that age you
would get and.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Understand correct and that was Look, it was hard for them.
I can remember I was one of those kids. If
you have a house full of kids, some of them
are in their own world and some of them are
paying attention to your every energy and your every move
and word. And I was that girl, that kid, And
I remember overhearing my parents having a fight and heated
(08:01):
argument once about something that was on TV, some you know,
weak night movie and it was about addiction, and my
dad got up and turned it off, and Mom's like,
what do I was watching that?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't want to hear about that? What are you
gonna just.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Bury your head?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You can't handle it. I mean, it was and I
knew it was about her.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I knew the point of, you know, the pain point
for him was about that woman in our family that
that we loved.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Again, different generation, I would hope. I'm sure those conversations
still happen today on some level, but they're probably less
likely to take place today in a world where finally
there's acceptance. And so when my dad, you know, before
he went into rehab, and my dad was an alcoholic,
he drank pretty heavily for about it was actually about
(08:49):
eleven years. It's weird, it seem longer than that because
I was a kid, but I mean he was drinking.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Because it was all day every childhood.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, And and by the end it's one of those
where there were glad is hidden all over the place
and you know, all that kind of stuff. And my
mother would address it with him, the frustration. But the
problem was he was never sober enough to hear that.
And it was my uh, but my mother was an
enabler at one point early on too. You don't know
you're the enabler. Early on. I think for whatever reason
(09:20):
she was going and she was buying the.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Alcohol, she was probably also buying everything else. The food
was shredge too, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But then it was also the she was buying it
because she didn't want him to drive. And then my
grandmother and her would start to have conversations about it
and you know, and eventually became well. I went beyond intervention.
It was one of those where he had he passed
out and when he wasn't conscious, they dragged him to
the rehab center and he was impatient for thirty days
and he never drank one day out of his life
after that. He was sober for thirty years until he
(09:46):
passed away. He's lucky he didn't have cirrhosis. His blood
alcohol level was point four to five. He should have
been dead. They needed to medicate him and all that.
But anyway, my point is that the family did talk
about it, so we were all aware of the problem
and we would all talk to him about it. It just
wasn't it. It wasn't a secret. It just didn't it
(10:07):
didn't cut.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You just all lived with it, right, And it does
affect everyone. It does seep into everyone. It's not just
the person who has the addiction. And there's so much
to know about it. There's just so much to know.
It's not something you can just well, just be tough
and stop doing it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It doesn't work that way. That's the right, But you don't.
You don't know that. When you're younger, you know, you'll hear, well,
she needs to just stop it.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah. Well, and again I think that's our generation. I
think today there's a big understanding of you know, addiction.
That's why opioid you're a problem today. You're talking about something.
I'm not going to say anything is worse or better
than alcohol or whatever, but that's the kind of thing
that it doesn't it doesn't take much and you're in
it and you're hooked, and your body is going to
become addicted to it, and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And you get prescribed it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
A lot of synthetic substances are far more addictive than
anything previous, and so it's the reason that the conversation
has to happen. It's the reason the conversation has to
happen when kids are you know, are young. And I
mean I think, for example, our daughters Jody are very
well aware of that because between schooling and they grew
up in a family where they know that, you know,
(11:13):
my dad was an alcoholic. I stopped drinking almost fourteen
years ago now, and so they understand, you know, all
of those pieces. I would the study that this fellowship
is about, I bet it goes into really deep you
know space asp and it needs to go into the
very current spaces which are there's alcohol is still an issue,
(11:35):
but it's the opioids, it's the other addictive properties and
things like that, and the everything surrounding you know, that
kind of addiction that I'm assuming this medical student is studying.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Well, the reason I was just I wanted to talk
about it more beyond three things to know today quickly
just telling you it's such good news because it really
does affect everyone, this fellowship that they've created, the Matthew
Perry Foundation, because it is in every family. If you
think it's not in every family, it's just not unveiled.
(12:07):
It isn't every family to different degrees for different reasons
what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And you know, he was out of the public eye.
Matthew Perry was out of the public eye for so
long after you know, Friends, He did a couple of movies,
but he hadn't done anything in the years leading up
to his death that really gave public attention other than
the Friends reunion, which if you remember seeing him at that,
he wasn't doing so great there either knew there was
there was right, there was speculation, you know of that,
and he is very honest in his book. You know.
(12:35):
It's the thing about the memoir is you you really
you were pulling from I think you felt like, Okay,
well he's yeah, he's still dealing with it, but he's
got this now. But at this but we had no
idea what was going you know on behind the scenes again,
you know, And so yeah, that's that's it's it's good
(12:55):
to be studied. It's a shame that it's still closeted.
I think secrecy is always going to be part of
the problem, you know, until it's actually that's why interventions
are what they are.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Right, It's human too. There's probably a lot of families.
Going back to what you said earlier, the secrecy, it's
human to want to keep keep it on the low.
Maybe if it's your family, you don't want you don't
want to be embarrassed, you don't want to be embarrassed,
or you don't want someone to think that your father
is you know, one way or the other. It's I
don't think that it's a it was intended to be
(13:25):
a secret. Oh no, it's a you know, it's a
well it's human to do that in family.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Well in the case of you know, the Matthew Perry
thing or anything like that, where there are less than
legal things that are going on, of course that's not
going to be public, you know what I'm saying until
there's an investigation, and that's a legal thing, right exactly.
You know, the way that the substances were being acquired
and all that sort of stuff, obviously you know, was
not the legal way to do it.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I don't know if you know this, Jody, but do
you know if they're going to try to expand this
to other hospitals around the country.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I hope So.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I don't know that yet. It was just announced there hospital.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Nice to be nice to see fellowships set up at
a number of hospitals.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Right, and this certainly could be the model for it. Yeah,
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