March 18, 2025 • 17 mins
A convo about using AI for work/life balance. Then, we use AI to summarize our convo. Did it work?? You decide! A-okay? #family #worklife #ai
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Murphy, Sam and Joni after the show podcast.
And if there's a buzzword, that will probably be the buzzword,
like for the next five years. It's certainly been a
buzzword for the last two. It's AI and how AI
is in everything, and if you've noticed, you can't get
away from it right now, every app, every software company,
everyone now that AI is available, is incorporating some version
(00:22):
of AI into what they do now. And so.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
My favorite things are the summaries.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, when it summarizes something, it's like, wow, yeah, you
got it right, Well.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Do you see the potential though for that being maybe
a problem?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Of course, all of it is a potential problem.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
You know, because you're not getting the full recap of
what everybody exactly has said.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's like we're all full of cliff notes.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Right, Well, and here's where I'm going with that, because
the summaries sometimes are not accurate either. It's only going
to do the best that it can do with what
it can do. I like the fact that summaries exist,
whether it's Facebook, book, you know, news articles. I'm with
Sam on that, and it's kind of like you, if
you're really interested enough, you probably should go get context,
(01:07):
because if AI transposes one or two words and does
something wrong, that can be the difference between right, a
completely inaccurate story and something that you know is legit.
But so lately, the organizational software that I use, it's
called to do list. A lot of people use that
as it's a to do list. Is how it originated,
(01:28):
and it's one of the older ones out there. It's
been around probably for ten or fifteen years now, and
like all of them, they all compete with each other.
They're all, you know, evolving. And just in the last
week I had mentioned in the room it started using
summaries in what is coming to me? So what I
have set up for email because I have so many
different emails coming from so many different directions, I want
(01:51):
one central point to manage it all. So it's really
about focus, right, And I mean, and I think that's
the whole concept of what a summary is supposed to
be is by eight size so that you can consume
more than that. Funny, well, yeah, it's a.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Batically a line and then okay, I want to pay
attention to this or not.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Right exactly what's next? Yeah, And it's really helpful because
I will wind up with. I don't know out of
all the email that I get every day, so on average,
I get between two to three hundred email a day.
From those, the ones that are actionable probably wind up
being twenty to thirty. But that's still a lot when
you think about day to day to day to day,
(02:27):
and looking at it in a long list just like
becomes eye blistering. So when the summary AI summary became available,
I'm like, this is awesome. And it also looks through
the email and if it sees a word that it
says or thinks is a due date, it'll actually make
that a due date, and you know.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's not right.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's the problem. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's what happened.
And I'll give you an example of it. This is
why it's it's a double edged sword. I love it
because it's simple and it's cool, but then again, just
like Sam said, the dependency on it, you have to
be so careful because for example, it was an email
actually it was an email that both you and I
(03:09):
were on, Sam, but it was an email thread that
started three months ago ago.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I cannot even follow, okay.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And don't even try to look at those phone No.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was someone who they were just I think they
were picking up and you know, fording it's an event
that's coming up, and the event is I guess in
three or four weeks. But the original email had a
due date of one fifteen for follow up. January the
fifteenth was the follow up, and it saw that in
the subject line. So when my AI saw that yesterday
(03:42):
because we're in March, we're in March. No, it didn't.
It scheduled it for January fifteenth, twenty twenty six. Oh,
because the subject line of the email only said due
by one fifteen, Okay. And it's if I hadn't gone
in and read deeply the context, or if I had
dependent on it for the reminders and not me putting
(04:03):
it in myself, I would have had something show up
next year that's irrelevant, and I would have missed it
by a.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Year the follow up right now. So yeah, so it's
a so what's just looking forward?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah? But the other thing is I chat GPT just
announced that their latest version of their AI within I
don't know how soon this will be, certainly within months
they will be able to connect to Google Drive. And
there's something else that's going to be able to connect
to so that you can interact with documents and meetings
(04:34):
and those kinds of things you know, and have it
scan all of your stuff, you know, and and provide
feedback and information and again summaries or whatever else. It's
the next level. And Google has actually already announced the
same thing. Why can I think about Gemini? I got
to remember all these AI knows Gemini is Google and
(04:57):
so within by the end of this year, Google is
saying their goal is to have Jim and I be
able to read your email, go through your Google Drive,
go through all your Google docs, through anything that you need,
so that it can better personalize everything. And the thing
that makes me nervous about that is, I think what
makes everybody else nervous about it is that information has
(05:20):
to go somewhere to be processed and be sent back
to you another server. And it's privacy and so that
means everything. I mean, if your Google Drive contains your
financial data or whatever, before you interconnect all this stuff,
you're going to need to make sure that you are
have you tell it what you want it to look
at and what you don't want it to look at,
or you move it somewhere else or something along those lines.
(05:43):
But that's why I say it's going to be a
buzzword from now on. I think that it's equally cool
and equally scary at the same time, because it's one
of the biggest tech game changers ever, maybe since the
smartphone and the internet itself, you know what I mean.
Those were you talk about two big things that revolutionize
and change everything.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And AI think be one of those.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, I think AI is one of those, and for
all the good because there's a lot of good with
it too, because you know, it can follow logic and
it does a pretty good job with that. But the
interpretation part is dangerous, and I just worry about the
future of if AI is not good enough to really
truly summarize something, or it reads a word the wrong
way or the day.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
How much are you trusting it?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, exactly because if the goal, if the goal is
you can do more because of it, that means you're
going to be paid paying less attention to certain parts
of it, right, I have to rely on correctly exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Here's my concern with using it for help in your
day to day workflow, and this is not just for you,
so do not I'm not picking on.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You, Murphy. This is for me too.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
This would be for you Sam, which I think Sam
is a very detailed person, more detailed than you or
I Murphy. But to me, if you are going to
let an a I entity help manage your workflow, make
sure that you have your basics down. If you're missing
phone calls and you're missing email, naturally, do not also
(07:12):
use that to help you When you just explained why
it's not reliable enough.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
If you have gaps in your workflow, if you yeah,
it's gonna be exactly so, always go back to mastering
your basics and then let the other help be supplemental,
is what I and I say that for me too.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I knew if I.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Said it with just regards to your workflow, you would
think I was picking on you, But I'm not. You
do have a lot to manage. Sometimes you struggle with
the basics because there's so much to manage. You like
you know, this is your focus goes into one thing
and something else suffers, And that's just balance. That's life.
That's everybody with a workflow. And I'm not against it
(07:54):
at all. In fact, I had a conversation with someone
we had I had, I had just met a few
weeks ago, so you already know her Sue, and we
do work with her. And I met her and we
were at a social gathering. I was sitting there talking
with her and we started talking about AI. I don't
know how we got to it, and I was telling
her about dabbling in it and how I really need
(08:14):
to dabble in it for work life, just to play,
just for the things that I managed, just for topics
that we talk about and things that I manage, and
she told me something I did not expect it.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Something that she is using it for in her life
is not workflow, but her health. She has some AI
bots or whatever you call them apps where she's trying
to track and take note of her diet and her
water intake and her sleep, and so she's got and
she has trouble remembering it all when to take zinc
(08:46):
and things like that, and so she's got it down
with an app that's AI assisted and it's all about
her health. And I thought, man, that is smart. But
also with that, have your basics down too. Make sure
you are doing your basics so that it actually is
supplemental and not a hurdle.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, only you know what you can prioritize what it
comes down to, which is probably one of the most
difficult things. I say that for me, it may not
be for other people. But when you prioritize, when you're
a task oriented person, if you don't prioritize, your tendency
is going to be that list gets to be sixty
long and you think you've got to do everything on
it yourself and in order, which is a fallacy. It's
(09:28):
it's deciding which things really are the things you need
to be doing, what can be done by AI, and
then what is it? What does it need to be
done at all? You know, because it's everything that's fed
to us when you tind that, Yeah, we're in a
reactive world. We're in a world where we, you know,
google something and we get something back and react on it,
(09:48):
and so I think we're used to reacting more than
we are acting on things. But the AI that has
been around for forever, it just wasn't called AI. Voice
transcription has been around for a long time. I find
that very helpful, and it missed calls or voicemails because
I know what it is that I've missed. If someone's
left a message correct. And you know where I get
into trouble with this is there, and again I think
(10:11):
the persistence of the other person is important here. Also
where somebody will say, you know, I tried calling you,
it's like, well did you leave me a message? No? Said,
and so okay, well you didn't leave me a message
or send me a text or something. Let me know
that you need me to call you back. Otherwise I'm
not going to spend my time to just miss calls.
I'm not returning miss calls right exactly. So, So voice
(10:33):
transcription has been around for a long time. Or smart watches.
I mean I bought my first smart watch ten years
ago and it does the same thing today it did
ten years ago, which is it's time to get up
and start walking around. I mean, it knows you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You used to have it alert you have text and
phone calls. You must have stopped that.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, I stopped that. The reason I stopped that, and honestly,
I may need to go back to it because as
you know, Jody, this is the weirdest thing I'm missing
text lately. But the problem and I knew this would
happen one day. I've always My thing with text messages
has always been it's not the way I communicate regularly.
If you need me for something in the moment, text me.
(11:12):
Otherwise I'm not going to get into along because there
are too many text messages that would come in. And
that's what's begun to happen, various alerts, various things that
I get on my phone. My phone's constantly going off.
What happens once you start here?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You call nothing.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Gloss over, You don't hear anything anymore, and so I
probably I need my watch to do that. But it's
I turned that off because it was too distracting, because
every you turn.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It on for just certain people.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, and I could go in there for certain context.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And sam h I mean like boss.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, Actually, if you want to know what it can
if you want to know what a geek that I am,
Because this is true. If Jody sends me an email
now for something which is not like as a whole,
nine times out of ten, Jody and I spend most
of our time either texting, calling if we're not together, right,
But if Jody sends me an email for something that
(12:04):
needs to be acted on, and I've got little tags,
I've got everything in my Gmail that will say this
is Jody, this is the same thing for you, Sam.
All these things come to the top. But if I'm
not looking at my Gmail, which I'm not, I have
stopped being reactive to all email. Yeah, and so when
Jody sends me an email now it texts me. I
(12:25):
get a text notification that I have an email from Jody.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
You tell why, you tell him why that happened. I
don't remember what you missed A pretty important email from me. Yeah,
I don't remember what work related. We try not to
bring work home, and it was something that he wanted,
you know, we needed to get done.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And so I here's what I did. Here's what I did.
It's work.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I sent it to me. I did my work, and
I'll let you know in detail. And then I never
heard anything. And I finally was like, okay, mister, right,
so here's my.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But technically that's AI that does that too, right, So
it's but it's it's almost it's almost overwhelming, Jody, you're ice.
Probably is the best advice is really to go, okay,
it's a tool, use it as a tool. What what
do I need these tools for? Or do I need
them at all?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, you're the craftsman. Everything else is a.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Tool craftsmen tools.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Okay, okay, here's something fun. Let's have a I summarize
this podcast for us. Oh, we could do that, let's
do it right now.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well yeah, I mean there's there are programs that do that.
There's a program called descript that you know, podcasters all
over the place use. Okay, to do the video because
we need the video for our podcast. Also, can we like.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
At the end of this podcast, read the summary of
this podcast as from AI.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, if that's what you want to do, Okay, I'll
upload it. But then how we're going to share it
back for anybody.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Who's listening to podcast target on the end.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh okay, all right, I just uploaded it. I'm using
otter AI. There's a bazilion programs you could use for it.
But we'll just see what do you think it's going
to say? Going to summarize it.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
We're going to summarize it really well, and it's going
to be funny because it's going to be a I
summarizing a discussion about AI.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You're going to have a sense of humor where it'll
say you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I don't think it has a sense of humor yet sorry, Sam.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Can they develop senses of humor?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So that's actually what they are doing with Grock, which
is the one that k Yeah, it does, it has
It claims to be more human in what it's doing, but.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
It does feel like it because I've used the chat
GPT that we use through Being and I've also used
GROC a lot, and GROC seems to talk to you normally. Yes,
it does, as opposed to here is what you are looking.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
For, right, Okay, yeah, but so chat GBT, which not
the same as Copilot. See there's so many of them.
Copilot that's the one chat GPT has. Their latest version,
four point five is supposed to be in response to Grock.
Both Grock and Jem and I have said, look, we're
go to be more human. We're going to be more
(15:01):
you know, like a conversation. So it's it's still transcribing.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
So our whole podcast.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Okay, yeah, this is going to take it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
We need to stop talking so it'll stop transcribing.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Probably, Well I'm that way the podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
No, No, we're going to tack on the summary.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
All right, here's what it summarized. Are you ready to
totally okay. So oh it gives action items.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Too, of course, that's your kind of thing, Murphy.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, and this is probably it probably will go even deeper. Okay,
its first batch. Okay, It says. This conversation revolves around
the increasing integration of AI and various aspects of life
and work, with a focus on AI generated summaries and
their potential pitfalls.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Murphy discusses how AI summaries and his organizational software helped
manage his emails, but can also lead to inaccuracies such
as misinterpreting do dates. Jody and Sam expressed concerns about
relying too heavily on AI for work for workflow management
and emphasize the importance of mastering basic tasks before using
AI as a supplement. The discussion also touches on AI's
(16:04):
potential in health tracking and the balance between AIS benefits
and privacy concerns. Wow, that's a pretty impression that the
action items thirteen minutes and.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
That's a summary though you guys were talking about AI, right.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
That was a summary. That was a very impressive summarization.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Here are the action items explore the use of AI
powered tools for health and wellness tracking. Yes, investigate the
ability to customize AI notifications and alerts on smart watches
and other devices. And then here's the third one, test
the AI summary feature at the end of the podcast,
which we just did.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And well, you know, it's funny those three things were
talked about doing. You were saying, your friend is doing
that one he needs to add up things back to
his watch, right, and then we need to check this out.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's looking for those.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Words they say, Oh, this is action, this is action.
Very cool. I feel like it was a full exercise
and I learned a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
By the way, how did you expe j D Why
did not get that all?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Hey, you need to work on that. Ay missed any
part of the show. Get it all on the Murphy
Salmon Jody Podcast.
Welcome to the Murphy, Sam and Joni after the show podcast.
And if there's a buzzword, that will probably be the buzzword,
like for the next five years. It's certainly been a
buzzword for the last two. It's AI and how AI
is in everything, and if you've noticed, you can't get
away from it right now, every app, every software company,
everyone now that AI is available, is incorporating some version
(00:22):
of AI into what they do now. And so.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
My favorite things are the summaries.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, when it summarizes something, it's like, wow, yeah, you
got it right, Well.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Do you see the potential though for that being maybe
a problem?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Of course, all of it is a potential problem.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
You know, because you're not getting the full recap of
what everybody exactly has said.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's like we're all full of cliff notes.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Right, Well, and here's where I'm going with that, because
the summaries sometimes are not accurate either. It's only going
to do the best that it can do with what
it can do. I like the fact that summaries exist,
whether it's Facebook, book, you know, news articles. I'm with
Sam on that, and it's kind of like you, if
you're really interested enough, you probably should go get context,
(01:07):
because if AI transposes one or two words and does
something wrong, that can be the difference between right, a
completely inaccurate story and something that you know is legit.
But so lately, the organizational software that I use, it's
called to do list. A lot of people use that
as it's a to do list. Is how it originated,
(01:28):
and it's one of the older ones out there. It's
been around probably for ten or fifteen years now, and
like all of them, they all compete with each other.
They're all, you know, evolving. And just in the last
week I had mentioned in the room it started using
summaries in what is coming to me? So what I
have set up for email because I have so many
different emails coming from so many different directions, I want
(01:51):
one central point to manage it all. So it's really
about focus, right, And I mean, and I think that's
the whole concept of what a summary is supposed to
be is by eight size so that you can consume
more than that. Funny, well, yeah, it's a.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Batically a line and then okay, I want to pay
attention to this or not.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Right exactly what's next? Yeah, And it's really helpful because
I will wind up with. I don't know out of
all the email that I get every day, so on average,
I get between two to three hundred email a day.
From those, the ones that are actionable probably wind up
being twenty to thirty. But that's still a lot when
you think about day to day to day to day,
(02:27):
and looking at it in a long list just like
becomes eye blistering. So when the summary AI summary became available,
I'm like, this is awesome. And it also looks through
the email and if it sees a word that it
says or thinks is a due date, it'll actually make
that a due date, and you know.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's not right.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's the problem. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's what happened.
And I'll give you an example of it. This is
why it's it's a double edged sword. I love it
because it's simple and it's cool, but then again, just
like Sam said, the dependency on it, you have to
be so careful because for example, it was an email
actually it was an email that both you and I
(03:09):
were on, Sam, but it was an email thread that
started three months ago ago.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I cannot even follow, okay.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And don't even try to look at those phone No.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was someone who they were just I think they
were picking up and you know, fording it's an event
that's coming up, and the event is I guess in
three or four weeks. But the original email had a
due date of one fifteen for follow up. January the
fifteenth was the follow up, and it saw that in
the subject line. So when my AI saw that yesterday
(03:42):
because we're in March, we're in March. No, it didn't.
It scheduled it for January fifteenth, twenty twenty six. Oh,
because the subject line of the email only said due
by one fifteen, Okay. And it's if I hadn't gone
in and read deeply the context, or if I had
dependent on it for the reminders and not me putting
(04:03):
it in myself, I would have had something show up
next year that's irrelevant, and I would have missed it
by a.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Year the follow up right now. So yeah, so it's
a so what's just looking forward?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah? But the other thing is I chat GPT just
announced that their latest version of their AI within I
don't know how soon this will be, certainly within months
they will be able to connect to Google Drive. And
there's something else that's going to be able to connect
to so that you can interact with documents and meetings
(04:34):
and those kinds of things you know, and have it
scan all of your stuff, you know, and and provide
feedback and information and again summaries or whatever else. It's
the next level. And Google has actually already announced the
same thing. Why can I think about Gemini? I got
to remember all these AI knows Gemini is Google and
(04:57):
so within by the end of this year, Google is
saying their goal is to have Jim and I be
able to read your email, go through your Google Drive,
go through all your Google docs, through anything that you need,
so that it can better personalize everything. And the thing
that makes me nervous about that is, I think what
makes everybody else nervous about it is that information has
(05:20):
to go somewhere to be processed and be sent back
to you another server. And it's privacy and so that
means everything. I mean, if your Google Drive contains your
financial data or whatever, before you interconnect all this stuff,
you're going to need to make sure that you are
have you tell it what you want it to look
at and what you don't want it to look at,
or you move it somewhere else or something along those lines.
(05:43):
But that's why I say it's going to be a
buzzword from now on. I think that it's equally cool
and equally scary at the same time, because it's one
of the biggest tech game changers ever, maybe since the
smartphone and the internet itself, you know what I mean.
Those were you talk about two big things that revolutionize
and change everything.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And AI think be one of those.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, I think AI is one of those, and for
all the good because there's a lot of good with
it too, because you know, it can follow logic and
it does a pretty good job with that. But the
interpretation part is dangerous, and I just worry about the
future of if AI is not good enough to really
truly summarize something, or it reads a word the wrong
way or the day.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
How much are you trusting it?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, exactly because if the goal, if the goal is
you can do more because of it, that means you're
going to be paid paying less attention to certain parts
of it, right, I have to rely on correctly exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Here's my concern with using it for help in your
day to day workflow, and this is not just for you,
so do not I'm not picking on.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You, Murphy. This is for me too.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
This would be for you Sam, which I think Sam
is a very detailed person, more detailed than you or
I Murphy. But to me, if you are going to
let an a I entity help manage your workflow, make
sure that you have your basics down. If you're missing
phone calls and you're missing email, naturally, do not also
(07:12):
use that to help you When you just explained why
it's not reliable enough.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
If you have gaps in your workflow, if you yeah,
it's gonna be exactly so, always go back to mastering
your basics and then let the other help be supplemental,
is what I and I say that for me too.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I knew if I.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Said it with just regards to your workflow, you would
think I was picking on you, But I'm not. You
do have a lot to manage. Sometimes you struggle with
the basics because there's so much to manage. You like
you know, this is your focus goes into one thing
and something else suffers, And that's just balance. That's life.
That's everybody with a workflow. And I'm not against it
(07:54):
at all. In fact, I had a conversation with someone
we had I had, I had just met a few
weeks ago, so you already know her Sue, and we
do work with her. And I met her and we
were at a social gathering. I was sitting there talking
with her and we started talking about AI. I don't
know how we got to it, and I was telling
her about dabbling in it and how I really need
(08:14):
to dabble in it for work life, just to play,
just for the things that I managed, just for topics
that we talk about and things that I manage, and
she told me something I did not expect it.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Something that she is using it for in her life
is not workflow, but her health. She has some AI
bots or whatever you call them apps where she's trying
to track and take note of her diet and her
water intake and her sleep, and so she's got and
she has trouble remembering it all when to take zinc
(08:46):
and things like that, and so she's got it down
with an app that's AI assisted and it's all about
her health. And I thought, man, that is smart. But
also with that, have your basics down too. Make sure
you are doing your basics so that it actually is
supplemental and not a hurdle.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, only you know what you can prioritize what it
comes down to, which is probably one of the most
difficult things. I say that for me, it may not
be for other people. But when you prioritize, when you're
a task oriented person, if you don't prioritize, your tendency
is going to be that list gets to be sixty
long and you think you've got to do everything on
it yourself and in order, which is a fallacy. It's
(09:28):
it's deciding which things really are the things you need
to be doing, what can be done by AI, and
then what is it? What does it need to be
done at all? You know, because it's everything that's fed
to us when you tind that, Yeah, we're in a
reactive world. We're in a world where we, you know,
google something and we get something back and react on it,
(09:48):
and so I think we're used to reacting more than
we are acting on things. But the AI that has
been around for forever, it just wasn't called AI. Voice
transcription has been around for a long time. I find
that very helpful, and it missed calls or voicemails because
I know what it is that I've missed. If someone's
left a message correct. And you know where I get
into trouble with this is there, and again I think
(10:11):
the persistence of the other person is important here. Also
where somebody will say, you know, I tried calling you,
it's like, well did you leave me a message? No? Said,
and so okay, well you didn't leave me a message
or send me a text or something. Let me know
that you need me to call you back. Otherwise I'm
not going to spend my time to just miss calls.
I'm not returning miss calls right exactly. So, So voice
(10:33):
transcription has been around for a long time. Or smart watches.
I mean I bought my first smart watch ten years
ago and it does the same thing today it did
ten years ago, which is it's time to get up
and start walking around. I mean, it knows you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You used to have it alert you have text and
phone calls. You must have stopped that.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, I stopped that. The reason I stopped that, and honestly,
I may need to go back to it because as
you know, Jody, this is the weirdest thing I'm missing
text lately. But the problem and I knew this would
happen one day. I've always My thing with text messages
has always been it's not the way I communicate regularly.
If you need me for something in the moment, text me.
(11:12):
Otherwise I'm not going to get into along because there
are too many text messages that would come in. And
that's what's begun to happen, various alerts, various things that
I get on my phone. My phone's constantly going off.
What happens once you start here?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You call nothing.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Gloss over, You don't hear anything anymore, and so I
probably I need my watch to do that. But it's
I turned that off because it was too distracting, because
every you turn.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It on for just certain people.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, and I could go in there for certain context.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And sam h I mean like boss.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, Actually, if you want to know what it can
if you want to know what a geek that I am,
Because this is true. If Jody sends me an email
now for something which is not like as a whole,
nine times out of ten, Jody and I spend most
of our time either texting, calling if we're not together, right,
But if Jody sends me an email for something that
(12:04):
needs to be acted on, and I've got little tags,
I've got everything in my Gmail that will say this
is Jody, this is the same thing for you, Sam.
All these things come to the top. But if I'm
not looking at my Gmail, which I'm not, I have
stopped being reactive to all email. Yeah, and so when
Jody sends me an email now it texts me. I
(12:25):
get a text notification that I have an email from Jody.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
You tell why, you tell him why that happened. I
don't remember what you missed A pretty important email from me. Yeah,
I don't remember what work related. We try not to
bring work home, and it was something that he wanted,
you know, we needed to get done.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And so I here's what I did. Here's what I did.
It's work.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I sent it to me. I did my work, and
I'll let you know in detail. And then I never
heard anything. And I finally was like, okay, mister, right,
so here's my.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But technically that's AI that does that too, right, So
it's but it's it's almost it's almost overwhelming, Jody, you're ice.
Probably is the best advice is really to go, okay,
it's a tool, use it as a tool. What what
do I need these tools for? Or do I need
them at all?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, you're the craftsman. Everything else is a.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Tool craftsmen tools.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Okay, okay, here's something fun. Let's have a I summarize
this podcast for us. Oh, we could do that, let's
do it right now.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well yeah, I mean there's there are programs that do that.
There's a program called descript that you know, podcasters all
over the place use. Okay, to do the video because
we need the video for our podcast. Also, can we like.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
At the end of this podcast, read the summary of
this podcast as from AI.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, if that's what you want to do, Okay, I'll
upload it. But then how we're going to share it
back for anybody.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Who's listening to podcast target on the end.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh okay, all right, I just uploaded it. I'm using
otter AI. There's a bazilion programs you could use for it.
But we'll just see what do you think it's going
to say? Going to summarize it.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
We're going to summarize it really well, and it's going
to be funny because it's going to be a I
summarizing a discussion about AI.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You're going to have a sense of humor where it'll
say you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I don't think it has a sense of humor yet sorry, Sam.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Can they develop senses of humor?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So that's actually what they are doing with Grock, which
is the one that k Yeah, it does, it has
It claims to be more human in what it's doing, but.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
It does feel like it because I've used the chat
GPT that we use through Being and I've also used
GROC a lot, and GROC seems to talk to you normally. Yes,
it does, as opposed to here is what you are looking.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
For, right, Okay, yeah, but so chat GBT, which not
the same as Copilot. See there's so many of them.
Copilot that's the one chat GPT has. Their latest version,
four point five is supposed to be in response to Grock.
Both Grock and Jem and I have said, look, we're
go to be more human. We're going to be more
(15:01):
you know, like a conversation. So it's it's still transcribing.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
So our whole podcast.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Okay, yeah, this is going to take it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
We need to stop talking so it'll stop transcribing.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Probably, Well I'm that way the podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
No, No, we're going to tack on the summary.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
All right, here's what it summarized. Are you ready to
totally okay. So oh it gives action items.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Too, of course, that's your kind of thing, Murphy.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, and this is probably it probably will go even deeper. Okay,
its first batch. Okay, It says. This conversation revolves around
the increasing integration of AI and various aspects of life
and work, with a focus on AI generated summaries and
their potential pitfalls.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Murphy discusses how AI summaries and his organizational software helped
manage his emails, but can also lead to inaccuracies such
as misinterpreting do dates. Jody and Sam expressed concerns about
relying too heavily on AI for work for workflow management
and emphasize the importance of mastering basic tasks before using
AI as a supplement. The discussion also touches on AI's
(16:04):
potential in health tracking and the balance between AIS benefits
and privacy concerns. Wow, that's a pretty impression that the
action items thirteen minutes and.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
That's a summary though you guys were talking about AI, right.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
That was a summary. That was a very impressive summarization.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Here are the action items explore the use of AI
powered tools for health and wellness tracking. Yes, investigate the
ability to customize AI notifications and alerts on smart watches
and other devices. And then here's the third one, test
the AI summary feature at the end of the podcast,
which we just did.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And well, you know, it's funny those three things were
talked about doing. You were saying, your friend is doing
that one he needs to add up things back to
his watch, right, and then we need to check this out.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's looking for those.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Words they say, Oh, this is action, this is action.
Very cool. I feel like it was a full exercise
and I learned a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
By the way, how did you expe j D Why
did not get that all?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Hey, you need to work on that. Ay missed any
part of the show. Get it all on the Murphy
Salmon Jody Podcast.
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