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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Samonchoti After the show podcast, be
a part of it with us, so you can email us,
you can hit us up on our socials to respond,
or if you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, click the
red talkback mike button. Sometimes the most fun thing is
when you will trip across something like a TV show,
unexpected entertainment, whether it's a TV show or a radio station,
you know, something that you weren't planning on just because
(00:22):
you're you don't have anything else going on. You're just
kind of scanning around whatever. And you can do that.
You know, the same thing with podcast and that's actually
what I wasn't intending on stumbling across any podcast. But Jody,
you probably already know that Conan O'Brien has the Conan
Needs a Friend podcast, right. It's been around for a
couple of years now. I don't remember if he started
(00:42):
that during COVID or if you started that before COVID
after he transitioned out of TV, but you know, anyway,
it's it's popular and I've.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Never really sit fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I've never really you know, stayed glued to any one
episode as much as I love Conan. But last night
I just happened to be in the car and so
I stumbled across an interview that he's doing with Willy Nelson.
Now I don't really know when this one was done.
When you look on their of the website, they say
(01:11):
this was a twenty twenty interview. When the book came out,
it sounded a little newer to me than that. But
it doesn't really matter because the stories are what were
really just incredible because you're listening to this living legend,
and Sam, I know you're a massive Willy fan too.
It is because Willie is this just, you know, kind
of in his own league icon because of his age
(01:35):
and the fact that he's still doing what he's doing.
And I saw her maybe you mentioned this in Music
News that he's already going to He's he's booked his
date to do whatever the festival he does in Austin
in the July fourth concert that he does, and he's
still going to get up and he's going to play.
And he's ninety one years old and.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
He's doing that tour again this summer with Bob Dylan
a couple other bands.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Right now, why would he stop? Though?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You know there's no reason. If he can do it,
it's just pving your life, no matter what your age,
because something could happen to him and he knows that
any day and he would be stuck at home, you know,
in bed or something like that, and he doesn't want that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So he's just living to the fullest.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, just good. Well, you know, they're just a number
of different places. Conan went within. One of them was that,
you know, as there're star celebrity that you wish that
you had been able to meet over the years. He
said it was Hank Williams, because Hank Williams was twenty
nine whatever when he passed away. Yeah, and he never
met him. He I think he said that he worked
(02:37):
with was it Bob Wills maybe at one point that
it's isn't he like an older you know country.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Wells and the Texas Playboys.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah, Texas swing and way back though, right, yeah, this
is way, way way right, Okay, So he did he
I think he might have done a studio session, you know,
with Bob Wills too, and then asking about you know,
his influences.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
His influences weren't just country. His biggest influence on his
vocals in the way he phrases and he sings is
Frank Sinatra?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
What?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yes, he said that. He just he loved the way that,
you know, because Frank could work around the beat of
a song where you never know whether he's going to
be slightly ahead or slightly behind or right on or whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And when you listen to Willie songs, Willy does have
Frank phrasing.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well he goes at his own pace and the music
is just there. Yeah, it's the same way Frank did it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I never I've never made that connection.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
There was a lot of Willy being played when I
was growing up in the house, you know, but it's
not something that I do. Like Willie Nelson, But I
never was in the fan that you are, Sam, or
the fan that my parents were.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, they would go see him. They would get
in the car.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And go for a weekend and go see him in
concert anytime they could, and my mom would.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Wear the Willy shirt all the time.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
But I never picked up on any of that, Yeah,
because you know, it wasn't I wasn't into it.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah. It's crazy because to be ninety one, multiple generations
have been able to enjoy his music and still ten right, now.
And the other story that I heard because I remember
the day that I found out he wrote the big
classic Patsy Klein song Crazy, which Crazy is still the
(04:22):
biggest jukebox song of all time. And I guess it's
because they don't have jukeboxes anymore. That record is not
going to be beaten, you know. But there was a
time and place where you know, almost every jukebox in America,
even you know, through the eighties or whatever, had Patsy
Klin Crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Is that it was played.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, and Willie Nelson wrote that song.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I feel like I've heard the Willie version of it.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, Yeah, he's done a version.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But the story that he told his story, I've never
heard about that song, which he called that his mailbox
money song, because that was his first week he was
a struggling artist in you know, Nashville, wrote that song
that allowed him to then be able to spend time
writing other songs at the same time he's writing songs.
I think he said he was he tried to do
a hog farm and lost money on the hog farm,
(05:08):
but did a little bit better on the writing side
of things, I know anyway, But the story behind Patsy
Cline crazy is. It was Patsy Cline's husband that heard
Willy playing that in the studio and he said, Patsy's
got to hear that. She's got to be the one
to you know, to record this. And the only problem
was it was midnight and Patsy Klein was at home
(05:29):
asleep while her husband and will You are there in
the studio and he's like, no, no, you need to
get you know, you need to play this for her now.
And Willy did not want him to go wake her
up just so he could play, you know, crazy. And
so he's at the end of the driveway in the car.
Husband gets goes and gets Patsy. She comes to the
car and you know, he plays it and she was,
you know, She's like, yes, I've got to record that.
(05:50):
Oh good, midnight, welcome.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I was going to go to another what Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah. Even Conan said, Willie, I love you, but if
you came and but midnight, I would tell you to
get out of here.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He usually a few other little words, colorful words with that.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But that's a great story.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
What's amazing about Willie, I think and younger, and by
younger I mean probably forty and under. Even don't understand
is that he's been around forever, yeah, and that he
had that career as a writer before.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
He was Willie Nelson.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I mean, he wrote so many songs way back then,
and he was, you know, trying to break into the business.
And it's you see that. You ever see the pictures
of Willie back in the day, you know, slick hair.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, he looked like that, nineteen anything like Willy now right.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's just like he's been around forever.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
And what's so funny about you just said that that
image of him does not I can't conjure that image
of him because that's not the image I have of him.
And that was what's so cool is that he decided
to just stop worrying about his image and be himself.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And that's the image that we have of him.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
The braids, you know, the casual yeah, Western and some.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Of his classic albums that he put out, he did
on he did against record Company Wishes. It's like when
he put out that Stardust album, which is one of
his biggest Yes, it's like you're gonna do what I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So and then boom yeah and Stardust. But you know,
if you've never heard. That album is basically what they
call the American song bocause of classic vocal songs that
were big hits from the forties and the fifties that
he did in Willi style. Yeah, exactly, And and I
guess really what brought Willie back to the scene probably
was the outlaw country phase of things in the seventies
(07:34):
when he was with Whalen Jennings. And then that transition again,
the whole urban cowboy phase you know again was a
little spark and he came along in the eighties and
then he did the duet with Julio Iglesias. Yeah, he
was so big on the pop charts as a singer.
You're right, Sam, it was like twenty years after he
began writing hits, was when he really started to hit.
(07:54):
You hit the charts himself. But my dad would my
dad absolutely. The Stardust album is one they would play
and I still have that copy of it un vinyl,
you know, both sides of front to back he would
play and that would it was really common. So uh.
But the reason I bring it up is just to
hear Willie, you know, tell just some different parts of
his stories and he talks about how you know, it
(08:15):
hasn't all been easy, and some of that was very public.
If you remember, in the nineties late eighties or nineties,
he ran in some big tax trouble and owed the
federal government a lot of money. He's had a lot
of legal, you know, issues and things that he's been
able to work through over the years, but he's always
come out the backside. And it's just listening to him.
That's what's amazing to me. It's like, I can't be
(08:36):
that casual. As much as I would love to be
that casual. He makes it look like it's just been easy,
and he's Wow, he's ninety one years old.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Now you're also not smoking with Willy's smoking.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That casual.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Oh you could be that casual, but that's you're not
doing those things. I have one Willie Nelson's story, and
I don't know if you guys remember this or not,
but it is a true story. Years ago, when we
were living in the first house that we bought together Murphy,
which is the one near that golf of the public
golf course, I was going home from work one afternoon
(09:10):
and I'm sitting at the red light and this golf
course spans it goes across the streets, and there are
golf carts that go across the street when you're at
the red light, and I'm just sitting there minding my
own business.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I'm tired.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I might have been pregnant with our first kid, Taylor,
and in a golf cart going right in front of me,
and I swear it's Willie Nelson, And I'm like, am.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I seeing things? And I didn't say anything about it.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
And the next day we found out that Willy Nelson was.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
In town filming the Golfer or something like that, and
like he was.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
At my golf he was at the golf course across
the street from our house.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I knew I had seen him.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And then I felt like, by the time I tell
that story that nobody's gonna believe me.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
There was a day ago, you know, I know that
I saw him.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That's funny. I completely forgot about that. Yeah, right in
front of me, which we could walking about. As I
wish I could have seen him playing. They would have
walked across the street and said hello too.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'm telling you, he was not dressed like Tiger Woods.
He was had the braid, and he was casual as
could be.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, Sam might have to share the link of that
podcast you know with you and we can you know,
share it here. Also, you know that on the Team Coco.
It's really it's just a good moment with you know,
with Willy and if you have never heard of or
know anything about Willie Nelson, this might be a really
cool little introduction because it's laid back. Realize also, I
guess I should say, because it's a podcast, you know
(10:32):
there are you know, there's there's language right exactly, and
you know, be aware that of again, have kids listen
to it, but it you know, it was great and
just it was a really fun escape to listen to
Willie tell his stories with Conan.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Missed any part of the show. Get It All on
the Murphy Salmon Jody podcast.
Welcome to the Murphy Samonchoti After the show podcast, be
a part of it with us, so you can email us,
you can hit us up on our socials to respond,
or if you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, click the
red talkback mike button. Sometimes the most fun thing is
when you will trip across something like a TV show,
unexpected entertainment, whether it's a TV show or a radio station,
you know, something that you weren't planning on just because
(00:22):
you're you don't have anything else going on. You're just
kind of scanning around whatever. And you can do that.
You know, the same thing with podcast and that's actually
what I wasn't intending on stumbling across any podcast. But Jody,
you probably already know that Conan O'Brien has the Conan
Needs a Friend podcast, right. It's been around for a
couple of years now. I don't remember if he started
(00:42):
that during COVID or if you started that before COVID
after he transitioned out of TV, but you know, anyway,
it's it's popular and I've.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Never really sit fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I've never really you know, stayed glued to any one
episode as much as I love Conan. But last night
I just happened to be in the car and so
I stumbled across an interview that he's doing with Willy Nelson.
Now I don't really know when this one was done.
When you look on their of the website, they say
(01:11):
this was a twenty twenty interview. When the book came out,
it sounded a little newer to me than that. But
it doesn't really matter because the stories are what were
really just incredible because you're listening to this living legend,
and Sam, I know you're a massive Willy fan too.
It is because Willie is this just, you know, kind
of in his own league icon because of his age
(01:35):
and the fact that he's still doing what he's doing.
And I saw her maybe you mentioned this in Music
News that he's already going to He's he's booked his
date to do whatever the festival he does in Austin
in the July fourth concert that he does, and he's
still going to get up and he's going to play.
And he's ninety one years old and.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
He's doing that tour again this summer with Bob Dylan
a couple other bands.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Right now, why would he stop? Though?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You know there's no reason. If he can do it,
it's just pving your life, no matter what your age,
because something could happen to him and he knows that
any day and he would be stuck at home, you know,
in bed or something like that, and he doesn't want that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So he's just living to the fullest.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, just good. Well, you know, they're just a number
of different places. Conan went within. One of them was that,
you know, as there're star celebrity that you wish that
you had been able to meet over the years. He
said it was Hank Williams, because Hank Williams was twenty
nine whatever when he passed away. Yeah, and he never
met him. He I think he said that he worked
(02:37):
with was it Bob Wills maybe at one point that
it's isn't he like an older you know country.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Wells and the Texas Playboys.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah, Texas swing and way back though, right, yeah, this
is way, way way right, Okay, So he did he
I think he might have done a studio session, you know,
with Bob Wills too, and then asking about you know,
his influences.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
His influences weren't just country. His biggest influence on his
vocals in the way he phrases and he sings is
Frank Sinatra?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
What?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yes, he said that. He just he loved the way that,
you know, because Frank could work around the beat of
a song where you never know whether he's going to
be slightly ahead or slightly behind or right on or whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And when you listen to Willie songs, Willy does have
Frank phrasing.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well he goes at his own pace and the music
is just there. Yeah, it's the same way Frank did it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I never I've never made that connection.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
There was a lot of Willy being played when I
was growing up in the house, you know, but it's
not something that I do. Like Willie Nelson, But I
never was in the fan that you are, Sam, or
the fan that my parents were.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, they would go see him. They would get
in the car.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And go for a weekend and go see him in
concert anytime they could, and my mom would.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Wear the Willy shirt all the time.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
But I never picked up on any of that, Yeah,
because you know, it wasn't I wasn't into it.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah. It's crazy because to be ninety one, multiple generations
have been able to enjoy his music and still ten right, now.
And the other story that I heard because I remember
the day that I found out he wrote the big
classic Patsy Klein song Crazy, which Crazy is still the
(04:22):
biggest jukebox song of all time. And I guess it's
because they don't have jukeboxes anymore. That record is not
going to be beaten, you know. But there was a
time and place where you know, almost every jukebox in America,
even you know, through the eighties or whatever, had Patsy
Klin Crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Is that it was played.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, and Willie Nelson wrote that song.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I feel like I've heard the Willie version of it.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, Yeah, he's done a version.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But the story that he told his story, I've never
heard about that song, which he called that his mailbox
money song, because that was his first week he was
a struggling artist in you know, Nashville, wrote that song
that allowed him to then be able to spend time
writing other songs at the same time he's writing songs.
I think he said he was he tried to do
a hog farm and lost money on the hog farm,
(05:08):
but did a little bit better on the writing side
of things, I know anyway, But the story behind Patsy
Cline crazy is. It was Patsy Cline's husband that heard
Willy playing that in the studio and he said, Patsy's
got to hear that. She's got to be the one
to you know, to record this. And the only problem
was it was midnight and Patsy Klein was at home
(05:29):
asleep while her husband and will You are there in
the studio and he's like, no, no, you need to
get you know, you need to play this for her now.
And Willy did not want him to go wake her
up just so he could play, you know, crazy. And
so he's at the end of the driveway in the car.
Husband gets goes and gets Patsy. She comes to the
car and you know, he plays it and she was,
you know, She's like, yes, I've got to record that.
(05:50):
Oh good, midnight, welcome.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I was going to go to another what Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah. Even Conan said, Willie, I love you, but if
you came and but midnight, I would tell you to
get out of here.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He usually a few other little words, colorful words with that.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But that's a great story.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
What's amazing about Willie, I think and younger, and by
younger I mean probably forty and under. Even don't understand
is that he's been around forever, yeah, and that he
had that career as a writer before.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
He was Willie Nelson.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I mean, he wrote so many songs way back then,
and he was, you know, trying to break into the business.
And it's you see that. You ever see the pictures
of Willie back in the day, you know, slick hair.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, he looked like that, nineteen anything like Willy now right.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's just like he's been around forever.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
And what's so funny about you just said that that
image of him does not I can't conjure that image
of him because that's not the image I have of him.
And that was what's so cool is that he decided
to just stop worrying about his image and be himself.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And that's the image that we have of him.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
The braids, you know, the casual yeah, Western and some.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Of his classic albums that he put out, he did
on he did against record Company Wishes. It's like when
he put out that Stardust album, which is one of
his biggest Yes, it's like you're gonna do what I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So and then boom yeah and Stardust. But you know,
if you've never heard. That album is basically what they
call the American song bocause of classic vocal songs that
were big hits from the forties and the fifties that
he did in Willi style. Yeah, exactly, And and I
guess really what brought Willie back to the scene probably
was the outlaw country phase of things in the seventies
(07:34):
when he was with Whalen Jennings. And then that transition again,
the whole urban cowboy phase you know again was a
little spark and he came along in the eighties and
then he did the duet with Julio Iglesias. Yeah, he
was so big on the pop charts as a singer.
You're right, Sam, it was like twenty years after he
began writing hits, was when he really started to hit.
(07:54):
You hit the charts himself. But my dad would my
dad absolutely. The Stardust album is one they would play
and I still have that copy of it un vinyl,
you know, both sides of front to back he would
play and that would it was really common. So uh.
But the reason I bring it up is just to
hear Willie, you know, tell just some different parts of
his stories and he talks about how you know, it
(08:15):
hasn't all been easy, and some of that was very public.
If you remember, in the nineties late eighties or nineties,
he ran in some big tax trouble and owed the
federal government a lot of money. He's had a lot
of legal, you know, issues and things that he's been
able to work through over the years, but he's always
come out the backside. And it's just listening to him.
That's what's amazing to me. It's like, I can't be
(08:36):
that casual. As much as I would love to be
that casual. He makes it look like it's just been easy,
and he's Wow, he's ninety one years old.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Now you're also not smoking with Willy's smoking.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That casual.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Oh you could be that casual, but that's you're not
doing those things. I have one Willie Nelson's story, and
I don't know if you guys remember this or not,
but it is a true story. Years ago, when we
were living in the first house that we bought together Murphy,
which is the one near that golf of the public
golf course, I was going home from work one afternoon
(09:10):
and I'm sitting at the red light and this golf
course spans it goes across the streets, and there are
golf carts that go across the street when you're at
the red light, and I'm just sitting there minding my
own business.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I'm tired.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I might have been pregnant with our first kid, Taylor,
and in a golf cart going right in front of me,
and I swear it's Willie Nelson, And I'm like, am.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I seeing things? And I didn't say anything about it.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
And the next day we found out that Willy Nelson was.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
In town filming the Golfer or something like that, and
like he was.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
At my golf he was at the golf course across
the street from our house.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I knew I had seen him.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And then I felt like, by the time I tell
that story that nobody's gonna believe me.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
There was a day ago, you know, I know that
I saw him.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That's funny. I completely forgot about that. Yeah, right in
front of me, which we could walking about. As I
wish I could have seen him playing. They would have
walked across the street and said hello too.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'm telling you, he was not dressed like Tiger Woods.
He was had the braid, and he was casual as
could be.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, Sam might have to share the link of that
podcast you know with you and we can you know,
share it here. Also, you know that on the Team Coco.
It's really it's just a good moment with you know,
with Willy and if you have never heard of or
know anything about Willie Nelson, this might be a really
cool little introduction because it's laid back. Realize also, I
guess I should say, because it's a podcast, you know
(10:32):
there are you know, there's there's language right exactly, and
you know, be aware that of again, have kids listen
to it, but it you know, it was great and
just it was a really fun escape to listen to
Willie tell his stories with Conan.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Missed any part of the show. Get It All on
the Murphy Salmon Jody podcast.
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