April 23, 2025 • 10 mins
Have you been fooled by AI yet??
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Murphy Salmon Jody after the show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're going to talk AI today, but a different spin
on this. Have you been fooled by AI yet?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I hope not? Is it? I hope not?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And the reason I bring this up, and it's a
non serious reason is the two twins, the Australian twins
that are gone viral, that talk on top of each
other and they repeat each other's words and he was.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Coming back down down the world this and he goes
run he's got a gun and oh hot started and
I said, oh mom, that story went viral this week
because they mimic each other's hand gestures and cadence and
they're dressed alike. In this new they were interviewed for
(00:44):
a news organization, which is what we were told, right, That's.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
What we were told.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
When I first saw this, I was I couldn't arrost it,
like three or four times because it's like, this is unbelievable.
And then it's like is this real? Because is it real?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Or AI?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Right?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And I sent it to my old this kid, Sammy
and Will and I was like, what do y'all think?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And they asked me back, is this AI? Or is
this real, and it's like, I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So since we're having to describe it and can't see it,
we mean a deep fake video is what you're talking about? Yeah,
so they so a I would create? Okay, got it?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Because there is a commentator at the desk talking about
the story that the girl's mother was robbed or something. Okay,
and then they go to the girls and the twins.
They have the little interview their soundclip, but it goes
on and on. It's like, news wise, why wouldn't you
have cut this sooner?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Because this obviously well you would have let it go
if it was real.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
They must have because apparently it is real. They've popped
up elsewhere on different shows in Australia now that they're
viral there because that's where they're from. But yeah, I
put that out. It's like, have you been fooled yet
by anything AI? I don't mean just a simple text
story or some crafted news story. I mean something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You mean an AI created visual photo of the scenes.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
The videos created by AI that are just like unbelievably realistic.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I've seen them. I've seen them as watch out. This
is absolutely a deep fake. In other words, I knew
I was looking at a deep fake and I couldn't.
I was like, wow, that does look like Leonardo DiCaprio
and Margot Robbie riding in a car together and talking
and laughing and you know, yuck, yucking it up. And
it wasn't them, but it looked like them. And all
(02:25):
the movements and all the gestures were so human and realistic.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah. AI keeps it's certainly getting better. But there's something
I think in the brain that knows something's off. Yeah. Sure,
I've not been fooled by any videos yet, you know.
And in fact, it's even if you strip the video
part out and you just talk about text and AI
generated text. It's really obvious to me when AI has
generated a description or a summary or something like that.
(02:50):
You know what I mean. You can tell me about
Oh absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
There was a picture that went viral last year, late
last year during hurricane season and herhurricane recovery time of
a little girl in a boat crying, holding a puppy
as if she was holding her puppy and evacuating, and
apparently it was used. It was not only used to
fool you visually, but it was like donate now, and
(03:16):
that was absolutely a scam. But I remember seeing it
and my first thought was, she's too perfect to be real.
I think it was beautiful, yeah, the puppy and the
little girl, and it was sad.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It struck all the chords.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think the photos and the videos, if it's too
perfect or too polished, that's where it sticks out. Now
these ladies, it's not polished this video. It's just a
fact that it's like, whoa, my goodness everything. They're repeating
everything on top of each other.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Right, is this a joke what I'm seeing now about
those ladies? And then we put it in. Three things
to note today in the show is that it's not
a I they're real and that. But that could in
twenty four hours from now, that could be a different thing.
It could have been such a deep fake that they
thought about all of this, they tried to make it
go viral.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I just don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
But it was weird because they mimicked each other's hand gestures,
they were wearing the same colors, and their adults, I
mean they were wearing the same tops and they were adults.
How many twins in adulthood do that? That was odd
to me. The follow up fashion things.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The follow up story I saw with another commentator interviewed them.
They had different scrubs on, but it was they were
both matching. I think it's because they both worked well,
this is the story I know for a Pelican rescue
in Australia. They I think they run the Pelican rescue.
So they're probably wearing scrubs because they're dealing with animals
all day long. Yeah, but you know, as far as us,
(04:44):
the three of us, we kind of wat look at
it with a you know, a questioning eye, right, how
is that going to affect younger generations that jump right
into this and they don't know?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, I mean I don't. I mean I know, I
mean our gen zs are very in tune with fake
and that absolutely. In fact, they don't really like AI
for that. For that reason, they're looking for everything. I
think that they're the most tuned in because they're the
ones who've experienced it their entire lives, so they're going
to never seeing it any other way, right, Exactly, they're
(05:16):
going to know when something you know is fake. Now,
if it becomes more sophisticated, that's that's a game changer.
But it doesn't even have to be just a I
of Jody when you were talking about the puppy and
the you know being Sometimes it's just a picture that's
out of context, a photo that was taken five years
before that's not related to the event that somebody's representing
it for. That's even more tricky because that's not AI generator.
(05:39):
That's somebody blatantly taking a real photo and associating it
with the current event and trying to make that go viral.
I mean, I guess it's all dangerous, right, but something
like that.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Anywhere there's technology and advances in technology, there are the
ones who use it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, for evil. If you and you know, you can
go around and I need to find a site that
was talking about that, because there are are they're different
universities that actually will study that and put it through
one hundred different tests or angles, don't maybe they use
AI to actually check the AI whatever it is that
they're doing. They're able to actually you know, zero down
(06:13):
into pixels and tell when something has been faked and
put together. The human eye can't really pick all that up.
But but they're you know, they're hip to it. But
if you look at the way that AI generates some
things depending on what's being generated. Take a look at
the background and see if anything looks odd. If something's
being represented from a certain time and place, you know,
and you see a cell phone or smartphone in the background,
(06:36):
or even something that's not that you know. I saw
one the other day that was supposed to be the
oldest house in America or something like that or whatever,
but it had a style of shutters on it that
didn't exist at that time period.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Oh how investigating acially.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Somebody was calling they were calling that out. It was
just been put together by AI.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Instead of being scared of all this or letting it
bother you or make you feel uneasy, the beauty here
is the if it teaches us anything as a human race,
it should teach us to slow down with our reactions
to things. Read it, don't have an emotional reaction.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Just take it in and if you're questioning it, so
be it. Question it. If it ends up being true, great,
go forward with it however you would, which is just
swipe away, scroll away, or to dig into it, or
if it turns out to not be true, I would
say also look out going forward, because there's already legislation
about this about using this and if you use it
(07:36):
and with the intention to fool someone, I mean, look out, well,
because you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
If you look at any like a chat, GPT or whatever,
it will tell you as your generating photo is making
sure that you've got the rights to or understand, you know,
what the limitations are in disclaimers in any website that's
using AI right now, you know, for anything, whether it's
summaries or other, they're disclosing that. So the legit, legit
places are going to of course, the problem is it's
(08:05):
the not legit stuff that's going to be the the
that they were deceiving.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Things you mentioned earlier about a picture of misrepresenting an era.
I've seen a lot of that on X on Twitter,
but I think Groc that's the one he uses on XA.
It usually picks those out. It's it's really weird because
you'll see one of those things like, oh my god,
look at this catastrophe right heah blah blah blah that
(08:30):
happened just now in New York City, and then the
first thing under the picture will be a Groc thing
that says this is misrepresented, this is not act, this
is actually from.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Nineteen eighty nine and no, no, no, no, wow.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So even it's like they've even got that looking at
a lot of their posts to tell you whether they're
not it's real or not.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And are they using AI to detect AI? Is my question?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, and when is AI got a fool AI?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah? Well, you know, the thing is the social sites,
they don't they definitely want you to ca to scroll,
but I don't think that any of them want to
be accused of putting false things out there, and so
they're going to continue to work. And it's it's it's
going to be the eternal race for security. It's been
that way since the dawn of it, since the time
somebody put in their first password. To the sophisticated you
(09:16):
know nature of AI and visuals and the fact that
it can create machine learning all of that. But yeah,
I mean, I hope, I hope I'm skeptical enough that
I'm not fooled by something like that. Yeah, you know,
and maybe what you're talking about there, Sam, we're grock
you know, to x if Facebook will do the same
thing in others to say, you know, warning, this photo
(09:37):
is not or the photo has been removed because it
was AI generator, fake or whatever it is. You know,
hopefully everybody will adopt and use that technology.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Hopefully it's your eye though if it fools your eye,
to me, the AI, as far as pictures go and
images and video even it needs to be a little
less imperfect. You know, the most perfect facial feature are
facial features that are the most appealing are symmetrical. They
(10:05):
say symmetrical, and so when it's perfectly symmetrical, most people
are not perfectly.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I'm sure there's somebody somewhere working on imperfect adjust So
do you think the twins are real?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I hope they all.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I hope missed any part of the show.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Get it All on the Murphy Salmon Jody Podcast
Welcome to Murphy Salmon Jody after the show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're going to talk AI today, but a different spin
on this. Have you been fooled by AI yet?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I hope not? Is it? I hope not?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And the reason I bring this up, and it's a
non serious reason is the two twins, the Australian twins
that are gone viral, that talk on top of each
other and they repeat each other's words and he was.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Coming back down down the world this and he goes
run he's got a gun and oh hot started and
I said, oh mom, that story went viral this week
because they mimic each other's hand gestures and cadence and
they're dressed alike. In this new they were interviewed for
(00:44):
a news organization, which is what we were told, right, That's.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
What we were told.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
When I first saw this, I was I couldn't arrost it,
like three or four times because it's like, this is unbelievable.
And then it's like is this real? Because is it real?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Or AI?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Right?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And I sent it to my old this kid, Sammy
and Will and I was like, what do y'all think?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And they asked me back, is this AI? Or is
this real, and it's like, I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So since we're having to describe it and can't see it,
we mean a deep fake video is what you're talking about? Yeah,
so they so a I would create? Okay, got it?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Because there is a commentator at the desk talking about
the story that the girl's mother was robbed or something. Okay,
and then they go to the girls and the twins.
They have the little interview their soundclip, but it goes
on and on. It's like, news wise, why wouldn't you
have cut this sooner?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Because this obviously well you would have let it go
if it was real.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
They must have because apparently it is real. They've popped
up elsewhere on different shows in Australia now that they're
viral there because that's where they're from. But yeah, I
put that out. It's like, have you been fooled yet
by anything AI? I don't mean just a simple text
story or some crafted news story. I mean something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You mean an AI created visual photo of the scenes.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
The videos created by AI that are just like unbelievably realistic.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I've seen them. I've seen them as watch out. This
is absolutely a deep fake. In other words, I knew
I was looking at a deep fake and I couldn't.
I was like, wow, that does look like Leonardo DiCaprio
and Margot Robbie riding in a car together and talking
and laughing and you know, yuck, yucking it up. And
it wasn't them, but it looked like them. And all
(02:25):
the movements and all the gestures were so human and realistic.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah. AI keeps it's certainly getting better. But there's something
I think in the brain that knows something's off. Yeah. Sure,
I've not been fooled by any videos yet, you know.
And in fact, it's even if you strip the video
part out and you just talk about text and AI
generated text. It's really obvious to me when AI has
generated a description or a summary or something like that.
(02:50):
You know what I mean. You can tell me about
Oh absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
There was a picture that went viral last year, late
last year during hurricane season and herhurricane recovery time of
a little girl in a boat crying, holding a puppy
as if she was holding her puppy and evacuating, and
apparently it was used. It was not only used to
fool you visually, but it was like donate now, and
(03:16):
that was absolutely a scam. But I remember seeing it
and my first thought was, she's too perfect to be real.
I think it was beautiful, yeah, the puppy and the
little girl, and it was sad.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It struck all the chords.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think the photos and the videos, if it's too
perfect or too polished, that's where it sticks out. Now
these ladies, it's not polished this video. It's just a
fact that it's like, whoa, my goodness everything. They're repeating
everything on top of each other.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Right, is this a joke what I'm seeing now about
those ladies? And then we put it in. Three things
to note today in the show is that it's not
a I they're real and that. But that could in
twenty four hours from now, that could be a different thing.
It could have been such a deep fake that they
thought about all of this, they tried to make it
go viral.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I just don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
But it was weird because they mimicked each other's hand gestures,
they were wearing the same colors, and their adults, I
mean they were wearing the same tops and they were adults.
How many twins in adulthood do that? That was odd
to me. The follow up fashion things.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The follow up story I saw with another commentator interviewed them.
They had different scrubs on, but it was they were
both matching. I think it's because they both worked well,
this is the story I know for a Pelican rescue
in Australia. They I think they run the Pelican rescue.
So they're probably wearing scrubs because they're dealing with animals
all day long. Yeah, but you know, as far as us,
(04:44):
the three of us, we kind of wat look at
it with a you know, a questioning eye, right, how
is that going to affect younger generations that jump right
into this and they don't know?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, I mean I don't. I mean I know, I
mean our gen zs are very in tune with fake
and that absolutely. In fact, they don't really like AI
for that. For that reason, they're looking for everything. I
think that they're the most tuned in because they're the
ones who've experienced it their entire lives, so they're going
to never seeing it any other way, right, Exactly, they're
(05:16):
going to know when something you know is fake. Now,
if it becomes more sophisticated, that's that's a game changer.
But it doesn't even have to be just a I
of Jody when you were talking about the puppy and
the you know being Sometimes it's just a picture that's
out of context, a photo that was taken five years
before that's not related to the event that somebody's representing
it for. That's even more tricky because that's not AI generator.
(05:39):
That's somebody blatantly taking a real photo and associating it
with the current event and trying to make that go viral.
I mean, I guess it's all dangerous, right, but something
like that.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Anywhere there's technology and advances in technology, there are the
ones who use it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, for evil. If you and you know, you can
go around and I need to find a site that
was talking about that, because there are are they're different
universities that actually will study that and put it through
one hundred different tests or angles, don't maybe they use
AI to actually check the AI whatever it is that
they're doing. They're able to actually you know, zero down
(06:13):
into pixels and tell when something has been faked and
put together. The human eye can't really pick all that up.
But but they're you know, they're hip to it. But
if you look at the way that AI generates some
things depending on what's being generated. Take a look at
the background and see if anything looks odd. If something's
being represented from a certain time and place, you know,
and you see a cell phone or smartphone in the background,
(06:36):
or even something that's not that you know. I saw
one the other day that was supposed to be the
oldest house in America or something like that or whatever,
but it had a style of shutters on it that
didn't exist at that time period.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Oh how investigating acially.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Somebody was calling they were calling that out. It was
just been put together by AI.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Instead of being scared of all this or letting it
bother you or make you feel uneasy, the beauty here
is the if it teaches us anything as a human race,
it should teach us to slow down with our reactions
to things. Read it, don't have an emotional reaction.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Just take it in and if you're questioning it, so
be it. Question it. If it ends up being true, great,
go forward with it however you would, which is just
swipe away, scroll away, or to dig into it, or
if it turns out to not be true, I would
say also look out going forward, because there's already legislation
about this about using this and if you use it
(07:36):
and with the intention to fool someone, I mean, look out, well,
because you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
If you look at any like a chat, GPT or whatever,
it will tell you as your generating photo is making
sure that you've got the rights to or understand, you know,
what the limitations are in disclaimers in any website that's
using AI right now, you know, for anything, whether it's
summaries or other, they're disclosing that. So the legit, legit
places are going to of course, the problem is it's
(08:05):
the not legit stuff that's going to be the the
that they were deceiving.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Things you mentioned earlier about a picture of misrepresenting an era.
I've seen a lot of that on X on Twitter,
but I think Groc that's the one he uses on XA.
It usually picks those out. It's it's really weird because
you'll see one of those things like, oh my god,
look at this catastrophe right heah blah blah blah that
(08:30):
happened just now in New York City, and then the
first thing under the picture will be a Groc thing
that says this is misrepresented, this is not act, this
is actually from.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Nineteen eighty nine and no, no, no, no, wow.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So even it's like they've even got that looking at
a lot of their posts to tell you whether they're
not it's real or not.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And are they using AI to detect AI? Is my question?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, and when is AI got a fool AI?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah? Well, you know, the thing is the social sites,
they don't they definitely want you to ca to scroll,
but I don't think that any of them want to
be accused of putting false things out there, and so
they're going to continue to work. And it's it's it's
going to be the eternal race for security. It's been
that way since the dawn of it, since the time
somebody put in their first password. To the sophisticated you
(09:16):
know nature of AI and visuals and the fact that
it can create machine learning all of that. But yeah,
I mean, I hope, I hope I'm skeptical enough that
I'm not fooled by something like that. Yeah, you know,
and maybe what you're talking about there, Sam, we're grock
you know, to x if Facebook will do the same
thing in others to say, you know, warning, this photo
(09:37):
is not or the photo has been removed because it
was AI generator, fake or whatever it is. You know,
hopefully everybody will adopt and use that technology.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Hopefully it's your eye though if it fools your eye,
to me, the AI, as far as pictures go and
images and video even it needs to be a little
less imperfect. You know, the most perfect facial feature are
facial features that are the most appealing are symmetrical. They
(10:05):
say symmetrical, and so when it's perfectly symmetrical, most people
are not perfectly.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I'm sure there's somebody somewhere working on imperfect adjust So
do you think the twins are real?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I hope they all.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I hope missed any part of the show.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
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