May 5, 2025 • 14 mins
The real reason Sam loves Star Wars.
See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Listen
Watch
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Murphy Salm and Jody after the Show podcast.
You can be a part of things by sending us
an email at Murphy Salmonjody dot com. You can send
us a voice memo that way too, if you want
to talk to us, or if you're listening on the
iHeartRadio app and the podcast. There there's a little red
microphone button. You can punch that little button and send
us a talkback message.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Love hearing from you. Okay, so Sam, I was really
excited to hear you enjoyed May the fourth yesterday by
chatting for an hour with with your son about the
Star Wars movies and that whole thing that unless you're
a really true Star Wars person, you can't really understand
that the first three are actually the last three.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Or first three are actually the second The.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
First three are the second set is the second set
of movies.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
They came out four, five, six, one, two, three, seven,
eight nine.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
But you didn't know back in the day when you
were watching Star Wars that it was number four because
George Lucas came back and said, you know what, I'm
going to write some prequels.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It wasn't really until he decided yeah, I'm gonna do primples. Right,
it was just Star Wars. Everybody called it Star Wars,
and now you have to call it Star Wars a
New Hope.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But you do have to explain that to people that
aren't Star Wars fans to understand because nineteen seventy seven
was when the first movie came out. In my head,
that will always be number one. Right, it's the original.
It's the one that set the tone for everything. It's
the reason everybody started buying Star Wars collectibles. I mean,
it's the quint Essential all the others. I guess you know,
if I were closer to it, I would get it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So the quint Essential is actually the fourth movie.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
No, the Queen Essential is the first movie. Okay, I
guess see. He confuses himself.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Right, that's why I'm just talking number before.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It is number one.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It's the it's the movie.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
What I love about this, and we have an example
from the weekend is that we didn't do we didn't
do what you did for us, Sam Murphy and I didn't.
But it's multi generational because a bunch of them came
out and then George Lucas was inspired again and realized
this is his baby. Star Wars is his contribution to
the world, and so he wrote the other ones, and
(02:00):
it's just look at the life that it's taken on,
look at what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It may be one of the most iconic entertainment franchises ever.
It is for something to still be as relevant almost
fifty years later. Correct, mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It's multi generational because of what you said, your son.
You know, you had a long conversation with him about it,
and he was telling you about it the first time
he discovered it, and you guys bonded on it and whatnot.
We were at a dinner at Phoebe's boyfriend's parents house
this weekend. We had a great time with them. It
was Cuban food. It was delicious to my leftover lunch today.
(02:36):
But so Phoebe's boyfriend, Stuart is very much a Star
Wars person, so much so that he's turned her onto it.
I bought it the Revenge of this No, what was
the Christmas sweater? What was the Christmas sweater? I gave
her Mary Sith miss that's it. Yeah, it took me
a minute. I bought it for her, not even knowing
what Sith was. And she was like awesome. So we
(02:58):
were having dinner just talking and Stuart was sitting right
across from me, and I think we ended up talking
about movies and Sinners being a you know, because Chad,
you know, his dad had just seen Sinners and he
really liked it. And we started talking about it, and
I said, did you know that the Star Wars movie
last week when it ran, you know, for a week,
it did better than some of the new movies. And
(03:21):
Stuart was like, yeah, and he went to see it
last week and I said, how was it. He said
it was awesome because he didn't see it in the
theater when it was new because he was a little child,
right like he or maybe he was a baby.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I think he was even born yet.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Okay, if it was twenty years ago, I don't even
remember what it was, Revenge of the Sith that was
in theaters, yes, well yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
But I mean that's one of the movies that was
in theater. Oh the one that was just last week.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Was number number three, which is number six. Yeah, we
do it.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well because I mean, because how about this that was
chapter three?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Okay, yeah, but anyway, I said, how did you like it?
Because he's seen all these movies. He grew up watching
the Clone War.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He was he was he was a little baby. I
was just trying to do the math in my head
on that it was it was the anniversary was a
twentieth anniversary, right, it was two thousand and five, So
he was four years old.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Okay, No, he wasn't. No, he was born.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He was born in two thousand and five, as was
Phoebe there the same age. I'm so confused anyway, so
I said, did you Oh, I didn't realize it. Like
there is a whole generation of you know, young kids
like Stuart who never saw that in the theater but
got to see it in the theater last week, and
he loved it because it was like all the coming
(04:40):
at you. And it's like, I don't know if they're
going to continue to do it, but they've got to
put all those movies back in the theaters, you know,
they just have to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Oh, I'm sure they will at some point. And remember
George Lucas well, you probably don't know this because you're
not a nerd, but George Lucas messed with the first
three movies too, four, five, and six, oh why I
added stuff too. If you go back, I remember original
and I've seen it. I don't remember who was running
it about a few months ago, the original number four,
which is number one.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah in our.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Hearts, I got it. Now. I think you watch.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It and it's like that was great. But then George
Lucas said, well, now I have all this technology, I'm
gonna go back and add sif you do the same,
like the land Speeder. When the land Speeder is going,
it's like you see this blur under there covering up
the wheels, so you don't see the wheels. Well, George
Lucas when he could do it, he went back and added,
so now it looks like they're just flying over the
svand what's wrong with that? And there's a scene where
(05:33):
they're coming into.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
The the Purest Europe.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
They're coming into the canteena at Tattooine.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You hear yourself saying, I know.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And in the original movie they pull up and it's
just you know, sand and a bunch of buildings. Well
he's went back and added these, you know, dinosaur looking
monsters and other carts going by and little droids. So
now when you watch it, it's like a full scene
of stuff. In the old days, it was just here
here comes the Lands.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You still get the original version, though with the edits
or you know, anything like that.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Somewhere one of the streamers was was doing it a
few months ago and I saw it and was like,
I gotta go watch it, and I had just missed it.
So I'm assuming somewhere it must be available, and because
I would think that.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Like the purest purist would also want the original intact
the way it was first time they saw it in
the theater, you know, in the seventh You know.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
What's funny is if you ever do get a hold
of one of those and watch it, you can actually see,
you know, when the typho tie fighters and other stuff
are flying through space. You can actually see, you know,
because they use green screen because that's all they had
back then. You can see like faint little squares around
each one as Wow, if you look real close. Yeah,
(06:46):
super nerd original an original movie.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'm not laughing at you because I think you're a
nerd or even a super nerd. I'm laughing at you
because you hear yourself saying you hate it.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You don't want to say I do it too.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It happens to me or Taylor when Taylor and Phoebe
are at the house and they start talking to me
about Game of Thrones and we are talk we are
in a world, and Murphy walks in. We're almost embarrassed
at what we're saying. We're so serious about what you know,
what Denaris was doing, you know, with her dragons, as
if this is the next our next door neighbor. This
(07:21):
if it's real and.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You know all the names and you know all the families,
and you know the sword names and you know the
names of the castles and all that.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So I'm a super.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Harry Potter fan, same things, right, same, I.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Could super nerd on it all day. Yeah, So don't
don't hate on yourself for your no no cruisers or whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't walk around thinking or saying this stuff usually,
And the fact that I'm sitting here milthing it off
is like I still remember this. I'm pulling names around.
Here's the thing too, And you're probably not going to
do it because you don't want to nerd out. But honestly,
when I was watching Light and Magic, the series that's
on Disney Plus about getting ready for number one, two,
and three, and the the software that George Lucas. And
(08:02):
this is what Sammy and I wound up talking a
lot about during that hour, is that George Lucas is
a genius.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I know, Jody, but.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
If you watched season two of Light and Magic, Murphy
would really probably yes, Oh it's the seasons Season one
was making of the first movie. Season two Murphy would
probably love because it talks about all that. It's like, Okay,
we're gonna build, We're gonna we're gonna make episode one.
We need some new software. They had to create all
(08:32):
their own software. George Lucas is the one responsible down
the road for the avid software stuff that they created
to make these movies because it did not Exist's coat
and how they decided to go with computerized jearje ar
Binks and Yoda versus dude in a costume George ar
Binks and Yoda. It was cheaper to do it all computerized.
(08:53):
And then it's it's just interesting to watch how the
technology all developed. And he did it. He did that.
They did the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. Oh, all the
you know, the Casper, that ghost movie, they did all that,
all the all the cool CGI stuff. Yeah, we saw
most of it's been done by them now in the
later years. And episode three shows this in this series
(09:15):
that other companies popped up. There's a different company that
popped up into the Avatar movies. A different company popped
up into these movies. And they're usually all ILM, Industrial,
LIGHTE and Magic alumni that have gone on to start
these companies. So like George Lucas is responsible for as
a genius, responsible for all of these things. Well, and
I mean they say it's the whole necessity is the
(09:36):
mother of invention thing. If it doesn't exist and you
want it, you're going to have to create it, you know.
And that's really what is amazing to me. And it
does make him a genius, I think, because he envisioned
things that he put into place. Not that AI is
not impressive today and all that, but all those things
that you type into AI are a direct result of
(09:56):
all of the things that came before it. You know,
all the concepting of a CGI character in a movie
had to be done for the first time before it
before the computer technology itself actually existed to do it anyway.
And that's what's incredible about visionaries. I think who sometimes
wind up. Maybe it's because it's in the weeds kind
of stuff, but they get forgotten for those kinds of things.
(10:19):
They get remembered for the bigger things. But to understand
that that took time and energy.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I mean, if you go back to Edison and the
light bulb and then you look at today, what LEDs are.
All those things are direct. You know, it's from the
it's from the try it and fail and try it succeed,
try it fail, try it succeed from other people. It's
the culmination of all those things. And what I'm thinking try, Yeah,
there is no but it really but that's and I
(10:46):
think there's something that's really cool about that. I think
that's also not it's not the exact same thing, but
it is kind of in a way. Our youngest daughter, Phoebe,
wants to go see she wants to see performances of groups.
She kind of like, we were watching Silk Sonic the
video the other night, and you know, they're kind of
doing that retro thing Bruno Mars does and it's very
(11:07):
seventies looking, kind of looks like the OJ's from a
TV special and that sort of thing, and she wants
to see that kind of concert and performance because it's
people collaborating and being creative and it's not just somebody
with a you know, a punchboard in front of them
clicking on a beat. And you know, not that there's
anything wrong with that, but she loves the artistry that's
(11:29):
in that. And that's really I think what George Lucas
was building there. It was a picture in his mind
that he then turned into something. You know that it
is what it is today and all the fantastic tools
that he wound up doing, you know, with the with
the later movies, are also a direct result of that
very first thing that he did. It's nuts. I just
(11:50):
you know, I will say that influenced an industry. In
this series they're talking about it. I can't remember if
it was Movie two or Movie three, where it's like,
you know, up until that point used miniatures for a
lot of everything. So it's like at some point they
just he decided, no, this movie ain't having no more miniatures.
It's all AI or it's all CGI and computerized from
(12:12):
here on out. And it's like they sold off their
prop department and oh, they basically finally went out of
business because everybody moved to computers. Nobody was making miniatures anymore, right,
So it's like the guys that you know did the
miniatures and created that industry.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
They sorry, oh it'll come back, It'll get everything cyclical, right, right,
somebody will want to do miniatures in some way again,
just for retroness. Yeah, what's so funny about you guys
taking it on this, you know, really good discussion about,
you know, how in the technology evolved and how he's
a genius, how he's part artist, part scientist genius, which
(12:52):
he is. He's got both things going on. George Lucas.
I literally loved it that you said that today and
told us that today, because I love when something like
that can be multi generational appreciated. I can talk to
Taylor and Phoebe anytime about Game of Thrones. It doesn't
matter that they're you know, young ladies and I'm their mother.
(13:13):
You can talk to Sammy and maybe the twins about
what about Star Wars forever until the day you die?
About you guys connect on that? And I love it
when something in pop culture that you can kind of
nerd out on you can connect people. I just love that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
But Jackson, I mean Sammy and Parker are my two
Star Wars confidence. Parker will just text me out of
the blue, Hey, I'm going to watch all the movies.
What order do you recommend? I'm thinking four or five, one, two, three, six,
and it's like.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That's not the right order.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
The timeline's going to be screwed up. Stick to the order.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, anyway, thank you for explaining it again. And by
the way, Star Wars a New Hope is what it's
now called, because it's actually if you're watching in order,
it's actually.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The fourth chapter four.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, got it missed any part of the show. Get
it All on the Murphy Salmon Jody podcast.
Welcome to the Murphy Salm and Jody after the Show podcast.
You can be a part of things by sending us
an email at Murphy Salmonjody dot com. You can send
us a voice memo that way too, if you want
to talk to us, or if you're listening on the
iHeartRadio app and the podcast. There there's a little red
microphone button. You can punch that little button and send
us a talkback message.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Love hearing from you. Okay, so Sam, I was really
excited to hear you enjoyed May the fourth yesterday by
chatting for an hour with with your son about the
Star Wars movies and that whole thing that unless you're
a really true Star Wars person, you can't really understand
that the first three are actually the last three.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Or first three are actually the second The.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
First three are the second set is the second set
of movies.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
They came out four, five, six, one, two, three, seven,
eight nine.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
But you didn't know back in the day when you
were watching Star Wars that it was number four because
George Lucas came back and said, you know what, I'm
going to write some prequels.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It wasn't really until he decided yeah, I'm gonna do primples. Right,
it was just Star Wars. Everybody called it Star Wars,
and now you have to call it Star Wars a
New Hope.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But you do have to explain that to people that
aren't Star Wars fans to understand because nineteen seventy seven
was when the first movie came out. In my head,
that will always be number one. Right, it's the original.
It's the one that set the tone for everything. It's
the reason everybody started buying Star Wars collectibles. I mean,
it's the quint Essential all the others. I guess you know,
if I were closer to it, I would get it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So the quint Essential is actually the fourth movie.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
No, the Queen Essential is the first movie. Okay, I
guess see. He confuses himself.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Right, that's why I'm just talking number before.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It is number one.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It's the it's the movie.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
What I love about this, and we have an example
from the weekend is that we didn't do we didn't
do what you did for us, Sam Murphy and I didn't.
But it's multi generational because a bunch of them came
out and then George Lucas was inspired again and realized
this is his baby. Star Wars is his contribution to
the world, and so he wrote the other ones, and
(02:00):
it's just look at the life that it's taken on,
look at what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It may be one of the most iconic entertainment franchises ever.
It is for something to still be as relevant almost
fifty years later. Correct, mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It's multi generational because of what you said, your son.
You know, you had a long conversation with him about it,
and he was telling you about it the first time
he discovered it, and you guys bonded on it and whatnot.
We were at a dinner at Phoebe's boyfriend's parents house
this weekend. We had a great time with them. It
was Cuban food. It was delicious to my leftover lunch today.
(02:36):
But so Phoebe's boyfriend, Stuart is very much a Star
Wars person, so much so that he's turned her onto it.
I bought it the Revenge of this No, what was
the Christmas sweater? What was the Christmas sweater? I gave
her Mary Sith miss that's it. Yeah, it took me
a minute. I bought it for her, not even knowing
what Sith was. And she was like awesome. So we
(02:58):
were having dinner just talking and Stuart was sitting right
across from me, and I think we ended up talking
about movies and Sinners being a you know, because Chad,
you know, his dad had just seen Sinners and he
really liked it. And we started talking about it, and
I said, did you know that the Star Wars movie
last week when it ran, you know, for a week,
it did better than some of the new movies. And
(03:21):
Stuart was like, yeah, and he went to see it
last week and I said, how was it. He said
it was awesome because he didn't see it in the
theater when it was new because he was a little child,
right like he or maybe he was a baby.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I think he was even born yet.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Okay, if it was twenty years ago, I don't even
remember what it was, Revenge of the Sith that was
in theaters, yes, well yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
But I mean that's one of the movies that was
in theater. Oh the one that was just last week.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Was number number three, which is number six. Yeah, we
do it.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well because I mean, because how about this that was
chapter three?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Okay, yeah, but anyway, I said, how did you like it?
Because he's seen all these movies. He grew up watching
the Clone War.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
He was he was he was a little baby. I
was just trying to do the math in my head
on that it was it was the anniversary was a
twentieth anniversary, right, it was two thousand and five, So
he was four years old.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That's correct.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Okay, No, he wasn't. No, he was born.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
He was born in two thousand and five, as was
Phoebe there the same age. I'm so confused anyway, so
I said, did you Oh, I didn't realize it. Like
there is a whole generation of you know, young kids
like Stuart who never saw that in the theater but
got to see it in the theater last week, and
he loved it because it was like all the coming
(04:40):
at you. And it's like, I don't know if they're
going to continue to do it, but they've got to
put all those movies back in the theaters, you know,
they just have to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Oh, I'm sure they will at some point. And remember
George Lucas well, you probably don't know this because you're
not a nerd, but George Lucas messed with the first
three movies too, four, five, and six, oh why I
added stuff too. If you go back, I remember original
and I've seen it. I don't remember who was running
it about a few months ago, the original number four,
which is number one.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah in our.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Hearts, I got it. Now. I think you watch.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It and it's like that was great. But then George
Lucas said, well, now I have all this technology, I'm
gonna go back and add sif you do the same,
like the land Speeder. When the land Speeder is going,
it's like you see this blur under there covering up
the wheels, so you don't see the wheels. Well, George
Lucas when he could do it, he went back and added,
so now it looks like they're just flying over the
svand what's wrong with that? And there's a scene where
(05:33):
they're coming into.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
The the Purest Europe.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
They're coming into the canteena at Tattooine.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You hear yourself saying, I know.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And in the original movie they pull up and it's
just you know, sand and a bunch of buildings. Well
he's went back and added these, you know, dinosaur looking
monsters and other carts going by and little droids. So
now when you watch it, it's like a full scene
of stuff. In the old days, it was just here
here comes the Lands.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You still get the original version, though with the edits
or you know, anything like that.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Somewhere one of the streamers was was doing it a
few months ago and I saw it and was like,
I gotta go watch it, and I had just missed it.
So I'm assuming somewhere it must be available, and because
I would think that.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Like the purest purist would also want the original intact
the way it was first time they saw it in
the theater, you know, in the seventh You know.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
What's funny is if you ever do get a hold
of one of those and watch it, you can actually see,
you know, when the typho tie fighters and other stuff
are flying through space. You can actually see, you know,
because they use green screen because that's all they had
back then. You can see like faint little squares around
each one as Wow, if you look real close. Yeah,
(06:46):
super nerd original an original movie.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'm not laughing at you because I think you're a
nerd or even a super nerd. I'm laughing at you
because you hear yourself saying you hate it.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You don't want to say I do it too.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It happens to me or Taylor when Taylor and Phoebe
are at the house and they start talking to me
about Game of Thrones and we are talk we are
in a world, and Murphy walks in. We're almost embarrassed
at what we're saying. We're so serious about what you know,
what Denaris was doing, you know, with her dragons, as
if this is the next our next door neighbor. This
(07:21):
if it's real and.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You know all the names and you know all the families,
and you know the sword names and you know the
names of the castles and all that.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So I'm a super.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Harry Potter fan, same things, right, same, I.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Could super nerd on it all day. Yeah, So don't
don't hate on yourself for your no no cruisers or whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't walk around thinking or saying this stuff usually,
And the fact that I'm sitting here milthing it off
is like I still remember this. I'm pulling names around.
Here's the thing too, And you're probably not going to
do it because you don't want to nerd out. But honestly,
when I was watching Light and Magic, the series that's
on Disney Plus about getting ready for number one, two,
and three, and the the software that George Lucas. And
(08:02):
this is what Sammy and I wound up talking a
lot about during that hour, is that George Lucas is
a genius.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I know, Jody, but.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
If you watched season two of Light and Magic, Murphy
would really probably yes, Oh it's the seasons Season one
was making of the first movie. Season two Murphy would
probably love because it talks about all that. It's like, Okay,
we're gonna build, We're gonna we're gonna make episode one.
We need some new software. They had to create all
(08:32):
their own software. George Lucas is the one responsible down
the road for the avid software stuff that they created
to make these movies because it did not Exist's coat
and how they decided to go with computerized jearje ar
Binks and Yoda versus dude in a costume George ar
Binks and Yoda. It was cheaper to do it all computerized.
(08:53):
And then it's it's just interesting to watch how the
technology all developed. And he did it. He did that.
They did the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. Oh, all the
you know, the Casper, that ghost movie, they did all that,
all the all the cool CGI stuff. Yeah, we saw
most of it's been done by them now in the
later years. And episode three shows this in this series
(09:15):
that other companies popped up. There's a different company that
popped up into the Avatar movies. A different company popped
up into these movies. And they're usually all ILM, Industrial,
LIGHTE and Magic alumni that have gone on to start
these companies. So like George Lucas is responsible for as
a genius, responsible for all of these things. Well, and
I mean they say it's the whole necessity is the
(09:36):
mother of invention thing. If it doesn't exist and you
want it, you're going to have to create it, you know.
And that's really what is amazing to me. And it
does make him a genius, I think, because he envisioned
things that he put into place. Not that AI is
not impressive today and all that, but all those things
that you type into AI are a direct result of
(09:56):
all of the things that came before it. You know,
all the concepting of a CGI character in a movie
had to be done for the first time before it
before the computer technology itself actually existed to do it anyway.
And that's what's incredible about visionaries. I think who sometimes
wind up. Maybe it's because it's in the weeds kind
of stuff, but they get forgotten for those kinds of things.
(10:19):
They get remembered for the bigger things. But to understand
that that took time and energy.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I mean, if you go back to Edison and the
light bulb and then you look at today, what LEDs are.
All those things are direct. You know, it's from the
it's from the try it and fail and try it succeed,
try it fail, try it succeed from other people. It's
the culmination of all those things. And what I'm thinking try, Yeah,
there is no but it really but that's and I
(10:46):
think there's something that's really cool about that. I think
that's also not it's not the exact same thing, but
it is kind of in a way. Our youngest daughter, Phoebe,
wants to go see she wants to see performances of groups.
She kind of like, we were watching Silk Sonic the
video the other night, and you know, they're kind of
doing that retro thing Bruno Mars does and it's very
(11:07):
seventies looking, kind of looks like the OJ's from a
TV special and that sort of thing, and she wants
to see that kind of concert and performance because it's
people collaborating and being creative and it's not just somebody
with a you know, a punchboard in front of them
clicking on a beat. And you know, not that there's
anything wrong with that, but she loves the artistry that's
(11:29):
in that. And that's really I think what George Lucas
was building there. It was a picture in his mind
that he then turned into something. You know that it
is what it is today and all the fantastic tools
that he wound up doing, you know, with the with
the later movies, are also a direct result of that
very first thing that he did. It's nuts. I just
(11:50):
you know, I will say that influenced an industry. In
this series they're talking about it. I can't remember if
it was Movie two or Movie three, where it's like,
you know, up until that point used miniatures for a
lot of everything. So it's like at some point they
just he decided, no, this movie ain't having no more miniatures.
It's all AI or it's all CGI and computerized from
(12:12):
here on out. And it's like they sold off their
prop department and oh, they basically finally went out of
business because everybody moved to computers. Nobody was making miniatures anymore, right,
So it's like the guys that you know did the
miniatures and created that industry.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
They sorry, oh it'll come back, It'll get everything cyclical, right, right,
somebody will want to do miniatures in some way again,
just for retroness. Yeah, what's so funny about you guys
taking it on this, you know, really good discussion about,
you know, how in the technology evolved and how he's
a genius, how he's part artist, part scientist genius, which
(12:52):
he is. He's got both things going on. George Lucas.
I literally loved it that you said that today and
told us that today, because I love when something like
that can be multi generational appreciated. I can talk to
Taylor and Phoebe anytime about Game of Thrones. It doesn't
matter that they're you know, young ladies and I'm their mother.
(13:13):
You can talk to Sammy and maybe the twins about
what about Star Wars forever until the day you die?
About you guys connect on that? And I love it
when something in pop culture that you can kind of
nerd out on you can connect people. I just love that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
But Jackson, I mean Sammy and Parker are my two
Star Wars confidence. Parker will just text me out of
the blue, Hey, I'm going to watch all the movies.
What order do you recommend? I'm thinking four or five, one, two, three, six,
and it's like.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That's not the right order.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
The timeline's going to be screwed up. Stick to the order.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, anyway, thank you for explaining it again. And by
the way, Star Wars a New Hope is what it's
now called, because it's actually if you're watching in order,
it's actually.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The fourth chapter four.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, got it missed any part of the show. Get
it All on the Murphy Salmon Jody podcast.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
iHeartRadio 24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.