September 1, 2025 • 16 mins
Murphy gets honest about the mental struggle of living with Type 1 diabetes. #worlddiabetesday #diabetes #family
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Murphy Salmon Joni. And while we were out
here is a flashback after the show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Something we didn't mention in the show today. But it's
a big deal and I do want to do it here.
I want to talk about it because Murphy is among
the many.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Today is World Diabetes Day.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It became an official day out think in the early
nineties to draw attention to the millions of people who
live with diabetes. But also not just because of the
medical component and all the research and you know how
hard it is to understand type one, type two, but
they also because so many people, a large number of
(00:39):
people who are living with diabetes also experience anxiety and
depression because of it. And I was reading that early today,
you know, as sort of getting ready for three Things
to Know and all of that, and I was like, oh,
World Diabetes Day. And I started reading and reading more
about it, and I had a memory, Murphy, of something
you said early on in your diagnosis, not the funny stuff. Yeah, okay,
(01:05):
So there's a lot of acceptance that has to go
along with it.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah. Well, and here's the thing. Because type one is
what it is, It doesn't have a cure. You can't
make it happen. You can't eat, you don't eat your
way into it. It's it's completely genetic. It's about four
percent of the diabetic population, like we've talked about before,
so early on. My denial came from the fact I
(01:29):
was actually hoping I had Type two, which in a
lot of cases can be treated by oral meds or
you can adjust your diet or whatever. And that's of
course not what it was at all. And now I
will tell you it's been a blessing in disguise. I
think being type one, because when you don't have a
choice but to manage it, you manage it.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Right, and you might be healthier today.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
For happy. Yeah, because I was smoking before, you know,
on set hit me in was twenty eight, twenty nine
something like that, smoking and I was smoking. To me
a balanced breakfast and did two pop tarts and arette.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Remember that right, So you remember that too.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm all much healthier eater now and take better cares.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
When you and I were becoming close back in those days,
you were diagnosed, you got really sick.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
We didn't know what was wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I went with you to your first appointment to your
the first time you ever gave yourself a shot. It
was a very traumatic time for you in your life
because you know you're being told this, No, you didn't
do anything to cause it. Yes, it's happened to you.
Yes you're going to live with it for the rest
of your life. I remember you asking the nurse, well,
what what what is it that triggered it, that caused
(02:40):
it to click on in my body? And she said,
if we knew that, we might have a cure. So
I remember that being a bit. But something else that
you said at home at your house not long after that,
when you were in the days after your first shot
and in the days after insulin being a part of
your life, and that's before you were on a pump,
(03:00):
were injecting.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, they wanted me to do it for a year,
to respect what insulin does and how it works, before
it became all that manually.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I remember you walking through your living room and I
was sitting on the floor right at the coffee table.
I don't know what I was doing, but you walk
You were walking through and you were aggravated about something
about it because you weren't feeling good and oh, you
forgot to give your shot or something, and you said,
I'm just ready for this to go away, and then
(03:31):
you looked at me, and I looked at you and nothing,
because we both knew it's not going away. You didn't
say it, I didn't say I knew not to say it.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Well, guess what, you know?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I've always wondered what was the point or how
long did it take for you to like accept Yeah,
I haven't been diagnosed, but like if I was diagnosed
with it would be like I would be thinking, there's
got to be a way, there's got to be something,
or maybe at what point did you go this is it?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean did it take a week or was it
within the first couple of days?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It wasn't a week.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, it wasn't in a week. Because you are you're
having to go through I mean, you have to go
through and I don't remember the name of the process.
What is it, the whole five steps that yeah, right,
that's what you have to go through. Honestly, you have
to get through the you know anger. I don't know
why I don't remember those five things, but I think
it usually starts with anger and then it becomes a
(04:26):
denial and then whatever it is next rationalization bargaining whatever
it is, and acceptance. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm sure
that it took me months. I don't remember that part
very well. I remember I remember the moment I was
told and being just shocked, especially when I was told
(04:46):
that it's nothing that I can change or do, and
then the reality of having to give that first shot.
And you know, I mean until that point, I was
afraid of needles. But those needles are they're small, you know,
I mean, and once you've given your self a shot,
it's it's nothing. I mean, it really doesn't. You know,
those needles are thin. Now anyway, they're better than they've
ever been. But before that, that first time, I couldn't
(05:09):
bring myself to do it. So that's when it became real.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, because you had to do it. It's like you have to.
You want to feel better. You're you know, if you
don't have type one diabetes, your body naturally disperses insulin
when it needs it. But you have to do it
now you have to be you're pancreas. You have to
do that work manually. Now now you do it with
a pump, but you still have to dose it. It's
something you can't get away from. And it's I'm sure
(05:32):
there's a lot of it's a difficult thing to accept
because you know, you can't get away from it.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You always have to think about it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I mean, the second very significant moment for me was
probably right before I was going on the pump, or
it might have been when I was actually, you know,
in transition learning to do the pump. And that same nurse, Deborah,
she was awesome, very instrumental in making sure that I
got this, you know, and understood how to handle it.
(06:01):
But I was still smoking at that time, a year
into you know, the diagnosis, and so she was talking
about how when you maintain tight control as a type
one diabetic, you're not likely to have any sort of complications.
You really, you know, it's not a guarantee, and some
things are going to be you know, they're little things
like healing takes me longer, it always has since I've
been diagnosed, and stuff like that. But the serious complications,
(06:25):
as long as you manage it, then it's.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Just you're hopefully managing your likelihood of having right.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And so she said, but the one thing that you're
doing right now is smoking, so you know, you can
keep doing this if you want. To lose your feet
or you can stop and that when she said that, honestly,
that got my attention at that moment. And I'd heard
that before, but for whatever reason, in that moment when
she told me that, yeah, that got my attention. And
(06:52):
you know what, and I quit. It was far harder
for me to stop smoking than it was to quit drinking.
I mean, that's so unbelievable. And because it was my thing.
Jody knows that it was. I always had one lit
at all times. Now we're talking twenty five years ago,
you know, but that was the reality of it. But yeah,
the acceptance part, I mean, you really can't effectively manage
(07:16):
it until you accept it because you don't think it's
a problem, and until you realize it's a problem that
you're going to have to face. And then you become
comfortable with the fact that it's not going to go away.
And both of you know you've seen that's it still
has its frustrating moments.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh, last night you were frustrated about it. I mean,
it's a part of your life. You bring it, I mean,
you have to carry it around, you do you manage it? Yeah,
And that means emotionally too, and I think everybody in
your life is understanding of that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, it's ever present, and I think that even something
you get used to that's ever present. It takes mental
energy and there are some days that you just don't know.
You would prefer not to have to deal with it
at all. It would be wonderful every now and then
when I'm changing my pump site out, you know, because
you said every three days, it's effectively it's a needle,
is what it is, with a little bit of tubing,
So you rotate it around, you move it, and every
(08:06):
three days. It gets changed every now and then when
I'm changing it because I disconnect from the pump when
I hop in the shower, but the tubing and all that,
I usually just stays attached until it's time for it
to change. But there are sometimes where I will, you know,
when I'm before I change it out, I get into
the shower and I've completely removed it, and for a minute,
it's like, wow, Okay, this is normal, this is I
(08:29):
you know, I almost pretend like for a moment that
I don't have it. Yeah, and then when I get out,
I've got to put a new needle in, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yeah, this way and see that those thoughts.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's a mental weight you're carrying around that no one
else sees and knows. That's another thing about diabetes. You
can't see it. People don't. You can't look at a
crowd of people and say diabetic diet. You can't type one,
type two, You can't do it. So it is something
you are managing, you know, mentally, on your own all
the time. I know you talk to me about it
a lot, You talk to us about it a lot,
and that's fine. But I was reading it when I
(09:01):
started looking into it into it this morning. We've never
talked about World Diabetes Day much, but I started looking
to it in this morning. Another reason they say specifically
that so many with diabetes have that anxiety, have those
mental struggles with it.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Is because they just feel overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
If they get tired of worrying about their blood sugar,
they get tired of chasing something they can't even see,
chasing something you can't even see.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, and I feel like the technology has made it
a lot better, but you know there's still I mean,
it's I have to remember to dose a certain amount,
even though I'm wearing the smart pomp in the g
six x colm whatever thing that you know reads my
blood sugar and all that. It's a lot better than
having to prick my finger twenty times a day like
I used to, and everything that I owned had blood
(09:48):
on it. You know, I'd but you know, I mean,
I got used to that, and then you could always
tell I mean it kind of among us type ones.
It's just a joke. When you'd hold your hands out,
you could see the you know, the larks from all
the you know that that.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, I know, and all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But there's a lot that I'm grateful for, honestly. I mean,
I know I still have my moments of frustration with it,
but there's plenty I'm grateful for. The healthy part. I'm
really grateful for. I am by far more healthy right
now than I was at that time. And if I
go back in time, I really was eating pop tarts
for breakfast, and I didn't care what I was eating
or how many calories. I never worried about that. Even
though I had started gaining a little bit of weight,
(10:28):
I'd always been pretty thin in my twenties, and so
I never worried about what I ate. I didn't exercise,
I smoked two packs of cigarettes a day, and if
I wanted to have a drink, I was going to
have a drink. And so I'm sure those things would
have Really maybe I wouldn't be sitting there right now,
honestly if I didn't. And so managing that and the
importance of that, and Jody and the girls coming along,
(10:50):
and me wanting to make sure that I take care
of myself so that I'm around for my family and
I want to be around for my friends and of
course for myself too, have all been pluses from it.
And so and when you have other Type one diabetics
that you know who are insulin dependent, like our friend Jeremy,
who are coworker here, it's really weird to be in
(11:12):
a building where there are only eleven of us in
this building, but two of us are Type one, you know,
And so he completely relates he and I more than anybody,
and as much as Jody knows me better than anybody
on the planet. But when it comes to actually understanding,
because you live it, when he and I speak about it,
you connect any Type one diabetic that I've run into,
(11:33):
I connect with, you know, for that reason, And you
don't even really realize how much that support actually means.
And the other thing is kids. Yeah, this is why
the technology is so good now, between the smart pump
and then the the glucometers or whatever you want to
call them, not glucometers, the bluetooth that actually communicates with
(11:56):
your phone or whatever to read blood sugar like a
dex com does. The parents of a child who's in
school can actually real time monitor their blood sugar's. There's
so much now that's better about it. And recently, within
the last six eight months, the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation
which was JDRF, just renamed themselves T one D Breakthrough
(12:18):
and the reason that type one to diabetes breakthrough, and
it's because what I have, Type one used to be
considered juvenile diabetes because it would usually show up ten
years old, eleven, twelve or whatever for whatever reason. In
the last you know, four or five decades, it's become
twelve fifteen. You still have a lot of young kids
(12:39):
that will line up with it, but twelve and fifteen,
mid twenties like me, and I've even heard of people
in their thirties and forties developing type one. It's like, why, now,
where is that? What has changed that that's that happens.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, exactly, constantly studying it.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
And so they that's why they had to rename all
of that. So there's a whole lot of progress. And
I guess if there's anything, I'm glad you brought this up, Jodie,
because to me, the most important thing is if there's
only one other type one diabetic who's listening to this
podcast right now, that they somehow know, Okay, I'm not
alone in this. It is manageable. Yes, it's frustrating. It's
(13:16):
okay to be mad at it, but it's also okay
to know that you can be one hundred percent normal
with your life and even if it doesn't go away.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But also acknowledge that it does take a mental tole
Like just because other people can't see it or understand it,
you're not crazy. There is a mental toll that it takes,
and you need you and anyone listening to this Type
one or two. If you're worried about managing it, and
you're worried about what's going on your bloodstream that you
feel like you don't have any control over and you're
trying to control it, you're not crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
You of course you know it's taking it mental toll.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And you should seek help for it. It's anxiety, it's
anybody with any sort of diagnosis probably has an acceptance period.
And to go back the question that you asked him earlier,
when did he accept it?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Over years?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I think yeah, and you don't have a date where
you know what, okay, where you checked off that box.
There was no date because it was you fought it
for a while.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, I didn't even think about them. I'm glad you're
bringing the mental health part up because the first time
I ever went to a counselor in my life for
any reason, it was because of that I had somebody
recommend to me. And it turned out that my first counselor,
she was also a Type one diabetic. It was very coincidental,
but she was. That I think made it even more
(14:34):
impactful for me.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You know, when I had nothing wrong that you needed
that at that time, you were actually very angry about that.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I was. I was very resentful of so many different things.
You start to ask why me and all of that.
You know, it's going through that whole process. I hadn't
really thought about that in a long time.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
We've we've talked about it a lot over the years,
even here on these podcasts, but we've never talked about
the mental health of it. And I just wanted to
do that because that's the reason that they ring World
Diabetes Day.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
The CDC brought it in.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, not you know, research and technology and all of
that medicine, but mental health. You are carrying something around
that no one else can see.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, and you know, and it's not just the thought
of it and how to manage it that has its toll.
It's the actual physical impact that when your blood sugar increases,
it impacts other things in your body. I don't know
if it's hormonal, but certainly changes energy levels, the way
you feel, it changes mood, It changes a lot of things.
And those are things I had to learn to be
(15:33):
aware of too. Nine times out of ten, if I'm
getting impatient or really aggravated or snap on something, almost
every time, seriously, Yeah, if I check my blood sugar,
it has gone up suddenly and quickly. I mean, who
knows why I have to do with Jody, No, it
does perfectly time right exactly. But you know this in
the same thing with the low blood sugar, which is
(15:54):
pretty important to treat quickly, as Jodie can tell you
start to feel scattered or easy, or anxious or whatever.
You have to learn to interpret all those things, and
that sort of self awareness, the physical self awareness, Yeah,
I think is the kind of thing that you only
learn by talking it through, especially with somebody that actually
has it. But any counselor you know who is who
(16:16):
can walk you through that process I think makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Acceptance. Yeah, missed any part of the show. Get it
All on the Murphy Salmon Jody Podcast.
Hey, it's Murphy Salmon Joni. And while we were out
here is a flashback after the show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Something we didn't mention in the show today. But it's
a big deal and I do want to do it here.
I want to talk about it because Murphy is among
the many.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Today is World Diabetes Day.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It became an official day out think in the early
nineties to draw attention to the millions of people who
live with diabetes. But also not just because of the
medical component and all the research and you know how
hard it is to understand type one, type two, but
they also because so many people, a large number of
(00:39):
people who are living with diabetes also experience anxiety and
depression because of it. And I was reading that early today,
you know, as sort of getting ready for three Things
to Know and all of that, and I was like, oh,
World Diabetes Day. And I started reading and reading more
about it, and I had a memory, Murphy, of something
you said early on in your diagnosis, not the funny stuff. Yeah, okay,
(01:05):
So there's a lot of acceptance that has to go
along with it.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah. Well, and here's the thing. Because type one is
what it is, It doesn't have a cure. You can't
make it happen. You can't eat, you don't eat your
way into it. It's it's completely genetic. It's about four
percent of the diabetic population, like we've talked about before,
so early on. My denial came from the fact I
(01:29):
was actually hoping I had Type two, which in a
lot of cases can be treated by oral meds or
you can adjust your diet or whatever. And that's of
course not what it was at all. And now I
will tell you it's been a blessing in disguise. I
think being type one, because when you don't have a
choice but to manage it, you manage it.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Right, and you might be healthier today.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
For happy. Yeah, because I was smoking before, you know,
on set hit me in was twenty eight, twenty nine
something like that, smoking and I was smoking. To me
a balanced breakfast and did two pop tarts and arette.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Remember that right, So you remember that too.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm all much healthier eater now and take better cares.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
When you and I were becoming close back in those days,
you were diagnosed, you got really sick.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
We didn't know what was wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I went with you to your first appointment to your
the first time you ever gave yourself a shot. It
was a very traumatic time for you in your life
because you know you're being told this, No, you didn't
do anything to cause it. Yes, it's happened to you.
Yes you're going to live with it for the rest
of your life. I remember you asking the nurse, well,
what what what is it that triggered it, that caused
(02:40):
it to click on in my body? And she said,
if we knew that, we might have a cure. So
I remember that being a bit. But something else that
you said at home at your house not long after that,
when you were in the days after your first shot
and in the days after insulin being a part of
your life, and that's before you were on a pump,
(03:00):
were injecting.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, they wanted me to do it for a year,
to respect what insulin does and how it works, before
it became all that manually.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I remember you walking through your living room and I
was sitting on the floor right at the coffee table.
I don't know what I was doing, but you walk
You were walking through and you were aggravated about something
about it because you weren't feeling good and oh, you
forgot to give your shot or something, and you said,
I'm just ready for this to go away, and then
(03:31):
you looked at me, and I looked at you and nothing,
because we both knew it's not going away. You didn't
say it, I didn't say I knew not to say it.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Well, guess what, you know?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I've always wondered what was the point or how
long did it take for you to like accept Yeah,
I haven't been diagnosed, but like if I was diagnosed
with it would be like I would be thinking, there's
got to be a way, there's got to be something,
or maybe at what point did you go this is it?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean did it take a week or was it
within the first couple of days?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It wasn't a week.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, it wasn't in a week. Because you are you're
having to go through I mean, you have to go
through and I don't remember the name of the process.
What is it, the whole five steps that yeah, right,
that's what you have to go through. Honestly, you have
to get through the you know anger. I don't know
why I don't remember those five things, but I think
it usually starts with anger and then it becomes a
(04:26):
denial and then whatever it is next rationalization bargaining whatever
it is, and acceptance. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm sure
that it took me months. I don't remember that part
very well. I remember I remember the moment I was
told and being just shocked, especially when I was told
(04:46):
that it's nothing that I can change or do, and
then the reality of having to give that first shot.
And you know, I mean until that point, I was
afraid of needles. But those needles are they're small, you know,
I mean, and once you've given your self a shot,
it's it's nothing. I mean, it really doesn't. You know,
those needles are thin. Now anyway, they're better than they've
ever been. But before that, that first time, I couldn't
(05:09):
bring myself to do it. So that's when it became real.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, because you had to do it. It's like you have to.
You want to feel better. You're you know, if you
don't have type one diabetes, your body naturally disperses insulin
when it needs it. But you have to do it
now you have to be you're pancreas. You have to
do that work manually. Now now you do it with
a pump, but you still have to dose it. It's
something you can't get away from. And it's I'm sure
(05:32):
there's a lot of it's a difficult thing to accept
because you know, you can't get away from it.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You always have to think about it.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I mean, the second very significant moment for me was
probably right before I was going on the pump, or
it might have been when I was actually, you know,
in transition learning to do the pump. And that same nurse, Deborah,
she was awesome, very instrumental in making sure that I
got this, you know, and understood how to handle it.
(06:01):
But I was still smoking at that time, a year
into you know, the diagnosis, and so she was talking
about how when you maintain tight control as a type
one diabetic, you're not likely to have any sort of complications.
You really, you know, it's not a guarantee, and some
things are going to be you know, they're little things
like healing takes me longer, it always has since I've
been diagnosed, and stuff like that. But the serious complications,
(06:25):
as long as you manage it, then it's.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Just you're hopefully managing your likelihood of having right.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And so she said, but the one thing that you're
doing right now is smoking, so you know, you can
keep doing this if you want. To lose your feet
or you can stop and that when she said that, honestly,
that got my attention at that moment. And I'd heard
that before, but for whatever reason, in that moment when
she told me that, yeah, that got my attention. And
(06:52):
you know what, and I quit. It was far harder
for me to stop smoking than it was to quit drinking.
I mean, that's so unbelievable. And because it was my thing.
Jody knows that it was. I always had one lit
at all times. Now we're talking twenty five years ago,
you know, but that was the reality of it. But yeah,
the acceptance part, I mean, you really can't effectively manage
(07:16):
it until you accept it because you don't think it's
a problem, and until you realize it's a problem that
you're going to have to face. And then you become
comfortable with the fact that it's not going to go away.
And both of you know you've seen that's it still
has its frustrating moments.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh, last night you were frustrated about it. I mean,
it's a part of your life. You bring it, I mean,
you have to carry it around, you do you manage it? Yeah,
And that means emotionally too, and I think everybody in
your life is understanding of that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, it's ever present, and I think that even something
you get used to that's ever present. It takes mental
energy and there are some days that you just don't know.
You would prefer not to have to deal with it
at all. It would be wonderful every now and then
when I'm changing my pump site out, you know, because
you said every three days, it's effectively it's a needle,
is what it is, with a little bit of tubing,
So you rotate it around, you move it, and every
(08:06):
three days. It gets changed every now and then when
I'm changing it because I disconnect from the pump when
I hop in the shower, but the tubing and all that,
I usually just stays attached until it's time for it
to change. But there are sometimes where I will, you know,
when I'm before I change it out, I get into
the shower and I've completely removed it, and for a minute,
it's like, wow, Okay, this is normal, this is I
(08:29):
you know, I almost pretend like for a moment that
I don't have it. Yeah, and then when I get out,
I've got to put a new needle in, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yeah, this way and see that those thoughts.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's a mental weight you're carrying around that no one
else sees and knows. That's another thing about diabetes. You
can't see it. People don't. You can't look at a
crowd of people and say diabetic diet. You can't type one,
type two, You can't do it. So it is something
you are managing, you know, mentally, on your own all
the time. I know you talk to me about it
a lot, You talk to us about it a lot,
and that's fine. But I was reading it when I
(09:01):
started looking into it into it this morning. We've never
talked about World Diabetes Day much, but I started looking
to it in this morning. Another reason they say specifically
that so many with diabetes have that anxiety, have those
mental struggles with it.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Is because they just feel overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
If they get tired of worrying about their blood sugar,
they get tired of chasing something they can't even see,
chasing something you can't even see.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, and I feel like the technology has made it
a lot better, but you know there's still I mean,
it's I have to remember to dose a certain amount,
even though I'm wearing the smart pomp in the g
six x colm whatever thing that you know reads my
blood sugar and all that. It's a lot better than
having to prick my finger twenty times a day like
I used to, and everything that I owned had blood
(09:48):
on it. You know, I'd but you know, I mean,
I got used to that, and then you could always
tell I mean it kind of among us type ones.
It's just a joke. When you'd hold your hands out,
you could see the you know, the larks from all
the you know that that.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, I know, and all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But there's a lot that I'm grateful for, honestly. I mean,
I know I still have my moments of frustration with it,
but there's plenty I'm grateful for. The healthy part. I'm
really grateful for. I am by far more healthy right
now than I was at that time. And if I
go back in time, I really was eating pop tarts
for breakfast, and I didn't care what I was eating
or how many calories. I never worried about that. Even
though I had started gaining a little bit of weight,
(10:28):
I'd always been pretty thin in my twenties, and so
I never worried about what I ate. I didn't exercise,
I smoked two packs of cigarettes a day, and if
I wanted to have a drink, I was going to
have a drink. And so I'm sure those things would
have Really maybe I wouldn't be sitting there right now,
honestly if I didn't. And so managing that and the
importance of that, and Jody and the girls coming along,
(10:50):
and me wanting to make sure that I take care
of myself so that I'm around for my family and
I want to be around for my friends and of
course for myself too, have all been pluses from it.
And so and when you have other Type one diabetics
that you know who are insulin dependent, like our friend Jeremy,
who are coworker here, it's really weird to be in
(11:12):
a building where there are only eleven of us in
this building, but two of us are Type one, you know,
And so he completely relates he and I more than anybody,
and as much as Jody knows me better than anybody
on the planet. But when it comes to actually understanding,
because you live it, when he and I speak about it,
you connect any Type one diabetic that I've run into,
(11:33):
I connect with, you know, for that reason, And you
don't even really realize how much that support actually means.
And the other thing is kids. Yeah, this is why
the technology is so good now, between the smart pump
and then the the glucometers or whatever you want to
call them, not glucometers, the bluetooth that actually communicates with
(11:56):
your phone or whatever to read blood sugar like a
dex com does. The parents of a child who's in
school can actually real time monitor their blood sugar's. There's
so much now that's better about it. And recently, within
the last six eight months, the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation
which was JDRF, just renamed themselves T one D Breakthrough
(12:18):
and the reason that type one to diabetes breakthrough, and
it's because what I have, Type one used to be
considered juvenile diabetes because it would usually show up ten
years old, eleven, twelve or whatever for whatever reason. In
the last you know, four or five decades, it's become
twelve fifteen. You still have a lot of young kids
(12:39):
that will line up with it, but twelve and fifteen,
mid twenties like me, and I've even heard of people
in their thirties and forties developing type one. It's like, why, now,
where is that? What has changed that that's that happens.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, exactly, constantly studying it.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
And so they that's why they had to rename all
of that. So there's a whole lot of progress. And
I guess if there's anything, I'm glad you brought this up, Jodie,
because to me, the most important thing is if there's
only one other type one diabetic who's listening to this
podcast right now, that they somehow know, Okay, I'm not
alone in this. It is manageable. Yes, it's frustrating. It's
(13:16):
okay to be mad at it, but it's also okay
to know that you can be one hundred percent normal
with your life and even if it doesn't go away.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But also acknowledge that it does take a mental tole
Like just because other people can't see it or understand it,
you're not crazy. There is a mental toll that it takes,
and you need you and anyone listening to this Type
one or two. If you're worried about managing it, and
you're worried about what's going on your bloodstream that you
feel like you don't have any control over and you're
trying to control it, you're not crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
You of course you know it's taking it mental toll.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And you should seek help for it. It's anxiety, it's
anybody with any sort of diagnosis probably has an acceptance period.
And to go back the question that you asked him earlier,
when did he accept it?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Over years?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I think yeah, and you don't have a date where
you know what, okay, where you checked off that box.
There was no date because it was you fought it
for a while.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, I didn't even think about them. I'm glad you're
bringing the mental health part up because the first time
I ever went to a counselor in my life for
any reason, it was because of that I had somebody
recommend to me. And it turned out that my first counselor,
she was also a Type one diabetic. It was very coincidental,
but she was. That I think made it even more
(14:34):
impactful for me.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You know, when I had nothing wrong that you needed
that at that time, you were actually very angry about that.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I was. I was very resentful of so many different things.
You start to ask why me and all of that.
You know, it's going through that whole process. I hadn't
really thought about that in a long time.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
We've we've talked about it a lot over the years,
even here on these podcasts, but we've never talked about
the mental health of it. And I just wanted to
do that because that's the reason that they ring World
Diabetes Day.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
The CDC brought it in.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, not you know, research and technology and all of
that medicine, but mental health. You are carrying something around
that no one else can see.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, and you know, and it's not just the thought
of it and how to manage it that has its toll.
It's the actual physical impact that when your blood sugar increases,
it impacts other things in your body. I don't know
if it's hormonal, but certainly changes energy levels, the way
you feel, it changes mood, It changes a lot of things.
And those are things I had to learn to be
(15:33):
aware of too. Nine times out of ten, if I'm
getting impatient or really aggravated or snap on something, almost
every time, seriously, Yeah, if I check my blood sugar,
it has gone up suddenly and quickly. I mean, who
knows why I have to do with Jody, No, it
does perfectly time right exactly. But you know this in
the same thing with the low blood sugar, which is
(15:54):
pretty important to treat quickly, as Jodie can tell you
start to feel scattered or easy, or anxious or whatever.
You have to learn to interpret all those things, and
that sort of self awareness, the physical self awareness, Yeah,
I think is the kind of thing that you only
learn by talking it through, especially with somebody that actually
has it. But any counselor you know who is who
(16:16):
can walk you through that process I think makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Acceptance. Yeah, missed any part of the show. Get it
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