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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Murphy Simmons Jody after the show podcast. I
don't know if you'd call this a Valentine's edition or not.
But earlier on the show Show this morning, Chris called
us and she was just talking about Valentine's Day and
paying attention to you know, whether it's a significant other,
friend or whatever. The best way to give a gift
is just to kind of pay attention no matter what.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Know that person, so you know what things that they.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Like right now. And then she kind of caught us
all off guard later in the call by saying she'd
been married for twenty six years, is that what she said,
and just recently got divorced, and that her husband had
only given her like three Valentine's gifts over all, but
beyond that, he never really was paying attention to any
of the things that were her interest in, you know,
her needs, which I mean, how she hung around for
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that long.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You know, you never know.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
No, there's reasons, right, I mean, it could be kids,
it could be anything. I get that. I'm not judging,
but I'm just saying, if somebody disrespects you that much.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You know, I know, look, there's a lot of people
that say, for reasons that you can't know.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
But you know, I mean what I was going to
share with you is a lesson than I was. Sam's
waiting for us to bring in three marriages and not
what I was going to do. You know, it's excuse me,
but feel free to bring anything.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was a good gift giver.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'd love to know what you what you're humming about
with people sticking around? Did people not stick around long
enough for you? Or do they stick around too long?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm the one who didn't stick around long enough?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
But do you you you thought you were a good
gift giver?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Though?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Were you a needs meter? I mean, did you meet
what's the needs meter? I don't have that kind of meter.
I get that at home keep.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
What is that measure?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Meeting their needs? You?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Were you good at meeting needs? Did you pay attention
to give good gifts?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I guess yeah, yeah, yeah I was, And I was
kind of like I think, Murphy, is you get that
sneaky little gift that you were not expecting?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, I can see you as a very good well
needs meter those ways. And now for the rest, are
you there emotionally? Did you feel like you were there
for that person I.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Thought I was at the time, but when you do hindsight.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm sorry, but you know, is this where you plan
to go?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
This is not where I was going with this at all.
But it's it's fun.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Let's go back to talking about needs means.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Excuse me, I'm sorry. I have a bit of a
cold here, so yes, but now that you say that,
and it's no. Seriously, Sam's been a good gift giver
ever since I've known him, Jody, I mean, you really
do you The reason you surprised is you actually do
pay attention to what people you know want or could
possibly need. I don't think I've ever gotten a junkie,
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you know, bad gift from you ever, or.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I do kind of like Jody's suggested, is you give
something that I guess you're not expecting. But it's still
like the year I give everybody T shirts? Or did
that a couple of years?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
You did that a couple of years, for sure, because
I have several T shirts from you. But oh yeah,
I love my hod Or one of the most.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It brought you joy.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeahdor is my favorite one.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah yeah, I mean I remember way back in the day,
and I promise you this is not where I was
intended to go with this. I mean, Sam wasn't a
very expressive person early on, but he would communicate through
his gifts, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It's sort of like, Jody, this is where you had
wasn't an expressive person.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
No, you're much different now. I think you're more wide
open with us, for sure, Yeah you are.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So it's seriously there. Where I was going with this
was to say, in the beginning of my relationship with Jody,
before we got married. I mean, I think that I'm
pretty lucky that you and I both worked through this
because as we started in our relationship, we were really were,
I don't want to say two very different people. Our
similarities I'm sure what brought us together, but I was
definitely very very different in you know, being I'm what
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I wanted to do, I wanted to do when I
wanted to do it, and all that kind. I was
pretty stubborn, and I guess I'm still pretty stubborn to
a degree.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
But but you've mellowed some.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And for whatever reason, back in those early days, you know,
if Jody wasn't doing something with me or that I
was interested, and I took that as a totally wrong message.
And then I realized, well, wait a second. You know,
she's gonna be a lot of happier person if she
gets to enjoy her things. She wants to enjoy those
because they're her things. It's not because it has anything
to do with me. And maybe that was just me
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being younger and whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah. I remember specific events that actually involved you want
Sam me. Yeah, and I know now today if this
were to happen, you wouldn't be upset, But when we
were first getting to know one another, you were upset.
Really well, we were just friends then too. We were cool.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Does it Sam, second wedding that you're talking about?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
No, that was a fight.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, we had to fight, as we had a fight
at your second wedding.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I know I saw it outside. Oh you did, yeah,
y'all because when you did it, you nicely went outside,
but you stood by the big window, and so everybody
was in the reception dancing looking at the window, and
it's like, hey, that looks like they're fighting out there.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
How about this song?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Though, Karina, I didn't realize we created a dim Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And that's what I remember about my second wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
No, I remember when I was just getting to know you,
and we were close and we were becoming really friendly.
And yes, you were very stubborn and I'll even say demanding.
You know, if you were in a relationship with somebody,
they had to you know, you had to have their
uh whatever, undivided. Okay, attention. And we went to some
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sort of thing and there was a brand new roller coaster.
Oh you know what, God really always sticks out with me,
and this was about me not paying attention to him.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Oh, I thought it was us. Okay, it's just you.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, I don't know. Were you jealous that Sam was
not paying attention here?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, I think we were both lumped in because you
and I kept riding.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
The ride and he was riding brand new not open
to the public yet. But we were there at a
media event, and so it was a brand Murphy, you
don't ride rollers and it was a water coaster, so
you're in, you're in, You're like getting wet. No, but
it was unlimited, no line, So Sam and I just
rode and rode and rode, and by the time I
finally got off that thing, you were spitting fire at me. Murphy.
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You were so mad. I remember, and I remember thinking,
what is there's nothing wrong with me riding a roller coaster.
If I want to ride a roller coaster, I'm grown up.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I kept wondering, what does he want us to just
stand here with him or roster?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
But yeah, he just took it wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, well I was just I think it was frustrated
because it was a behind the scenes thing and so
the rest of the park wasn't really open. I don't
know that there was anything else going on, so there
was nothing else for me to do at that moment.
But yes, that was a very that was a very
childish reaction, you know on my part because I was I.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Don't bring it up for that reason. But do you
remember that incident. That's exactly what you're talking about. But
that's also a younger.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
We have a picture from that moment, Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
We have a picture with Shaomu that night. Everybody's smiling.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
That's a younger person's a stake in a relationship to
take everything personally. You know, maybe she's riding a roller coaster.
This is just the example because she likes to ride
roller coasters, not because she doesn't want to be with you, right,
you know, you need to people are supposed to be
able to be who they.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Are, right and see. I mean the reason I know
this has come full circle now is because when we
go to a park with the girls and you know,
we ride roller coasters, since I don't ride them, you're
glad I'm down there with the purses and you know,
the roller.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Coasters, so grateful. Yeah, you know, it's so it's really
cool because most people are not do not have the
ability to see themselves clearly like that. For you to
see that you've mellowed is nice because you are Murphy
an intense person, and people who are not close to
you don't believe that. Like We've got friends who are like, oh,
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he's the sweetest person in the world, he'd never be mad.
What we know and intensity, Yeah, you're very passionate.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And I guess the real reason I was bringing that
up is because if.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Not for these he tries to get back to it.
For the fourth thought.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
It's nice to dredge up all the junks is that
I don't nobody can go into any relationship with it
being perfect at the very beginning, and I think you
have to. You're going to get through. Every relationship gets
to and it's the trite whatever it is, the three
year this and the seven year itch and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Look at me again, go ahead, I'm just thinking about
the seven year itch.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Okay, But I mean you've heard all those things before, right, Yes.
So my point is you're constantly getting to know each other,
and you're becoming more comfortable with each other, and you know,
you're learning more about yourself through the process. And if
you don't stick through those tough moments like that, and
you really don't try to take a look at yourself
in addition to respecting yourself, respecting the relationship and then
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respecting the other person who's in the relationship.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Sounds like a book.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, then you know it's you're not going to make it.
I don't. I think that's the whole You know, so
many of us grow up thinking, well, you're going to
marry your high school sweetheart and life will be happy
ever after, and it's supposed to be a certain way.
The truth is it's not right exactly. I mean, we
get out of all these things what we put into it,
and then, unfortunately, there's some people who get deeper into
a relationship and then some big surprise comes along that
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they're not the person who they thought they were or whatever.
You know, I mean, life changes.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You want to elaborate on this, Sam, No.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
No, And so I mean, I guess when it comes
down to it to me on Valentine's Day, A, I
appreciate the fact that you've dealt and handled you know,
I've been patient with me through that. But I also
really enjoy now watching you know who you are as
an individual, because all of your interests are really cool.
If you're both the same person, then one is there
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to necessarily get excited about, right, I mean, how do
you come home and have a conversation with each other
at the end of the day if you're not really
two different people who are enjoying a relationship together instead
of trying to be quote unquote one.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I agree, you have to have similarity, you have to
enjoy the same sort of things, but you have to
be a separate person.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I wish I was able to work through some of
that stuff when I was younger.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What do you mean what stuff that.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I had jealousy issues and I had, you know, just
stuff like immaturity. Maybe, I mean that's not what completely
led to my breakups.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
But it's like isn't that what's human? Though, Now I'm
having somebody and you finally have them and you want
to keep it.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I mean, now, oh, I see that, and I realize that.
And if another relationship comes along, it will be different.
I don't know that it'll be better or that I'll
be it'll be one hundred percent better.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But you know, yeah it should because everybody changes, hopefully
in mellows as they get older.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah they do. And I also think that, you know,
everybody does learn things the hard way. Sometimes we don't
see them. I'm experiencing that seriously. I mean, there's it's
very easy to look at somebody else going, wow, that
couple's been together for fifty years. It must be sheer perfection.
And if you went back and actually could see a
snapshot of all of it, you will see the good,
the bad, the ugly, the really tough moments, or the
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moments where you didn't think it was going to you know.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Maybe so I'm sure that most married couples have had
those moments. Are those times where it's like, we're gonna
stick in and fight this out, you.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Know, I don't know, are you gonna go on the
roller coaster one more time right, push your.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
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