March 7, 2019 • 9 mins
Who has the weirdest irrational fear – Murphy, Sam or Jodi?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's some merviy Sam and Jody after the show podcast.
And you know, it's interesting to me that the little
haunted experience that Jody and I had with you know,
Taylor and Phoebe because our youngest wanted to go stay
in a hunted bed and breakfast, as Jody told you.
And it's funny how your mind will get to you
because you know, I mean, it's when the lights went
out and the sun went down. That's where the questions
(00:20):
and sort of the you know, I don't want to
call it anxiety, but it was really just sort of.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And I can tell you because she was laying really
close to me and snuggling me, my heart was beating fast,
and I was I was worried about it beating too
fast for her to a don't want her to hear
it and think that I was scared, you know, trying
to be cool mom.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And so you contrast that with you know, the fact
that I didn't. I mean, for me, I enjoy it.
I love the charm of the place. It's it's it's
a lot of fun. But to me, I'm not scared
by it. It's just kind of like a fun story,
you know what I mean. Knowing that those things may happen.
It's just kind of to me, just kind of like, hey,
fun would be you know, funny if it happened.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You made me be a little freaked out if if
something happened, nothing happened into us.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well that's why I'm saying. I mean, nothing happened. But no,
I mean it really doesn't. That's not something that it's
It's not that I don't believe in it. It's just
not something that I'm scared of. But see, for me,
the thing would be it's not the phobia of a
spirit or a haunting you know this is coming. It
would be the dark. I don't like the dark. So
(01:22):
let me see. That's what I would be afraid of.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Powerless thing for you, you feel powerless.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Now, I don't know. I guess I just don't like
you know, I don't like the dark. Maybe I feel
claustrophobic in it. So I'm not afraid of a ghost
haunting me, you know. But but if you turn off
all the lights there, I actually wouldn't be scared of
the ghost. I would be scared of the dark.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Did you sleep with the night light on?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, lights run everywhere. Now the
room is not bright, you know what I mean? But yes,
I leave little lights on.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I've never see We've been married a long time, and
I don't think you've ever talked to me about being
afraid of the dark.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, but if you if you know this, we don't
ever sleep in a totally dark room.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
This is true.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
But and I don't have a strange affelity for flashlights.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Well, maybe being scared is too strong of a word.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
If not like it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
If I'm traveling alone and it gets dark, my brain
can run away with me, you know what I mean.
And it's not that somebody's gonna get me. I don't
know how to explain it.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It just leaves it entirely open to your imagination.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, it exactly, Bailey. So you know my mind run
you could be anywhere.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Okay, Well it's funny you say that because me and
Sam the other day we're talking about just like odd thing.
I'm not that being afraid of the dark is odd,
but just weird things to be afraid of. And I
know I was talking about being afraid of being underneath
an overpass, okay, like some people are scared of going
(02:40):
over bridges and stuff. But I'm just afraid to be underneath.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
One because your greatest fear would be.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I guess it's going to fall on you. But it's
also it's so loud and just so giant. It's so
much bigger than I am. You know, you're literally trusting
the engineers that built it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So you don't like, if you're in a traffic situation
and you get stuck on underneath an overpass, you're not happy.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
No, not at all. It's a weird spot to be in.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, I've been that way too. I won't pull up
far if I can keep out from being under it.
But I mean, Jody, you know my thing with bridges too.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh, that's right. I've ridden with Sam. I've had when
he started getting got.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You do freak out on bridges.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I've had real bridge dreams since I was little.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well I know, yeah, and I used to add those
when I was a kid. But does that translate to
real life? No? No, I've never fallen off a bridge. No,
I mean, are you afraid of a bridge in real life?
Certain ones?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
There's certain bridges really, if the conditions are right, it's
just like okay, yeah, And it's only because it's because
of the crest in the bridge at the top so.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You can't see on the other side of it. It
makes you nerve.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And I always just like barely doesn't want to get
under a thing. Yeah, I don't. It's like when I'm
going over it, it's like, Okay, not right now, not
right now. And then if I have to give it
the gas, I'll give it the gas in case the
bridge crumbles or something, or what if something well, what
if something already happened to the bridge and I don't
know it because I can't see you over the crest.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Would it help you to learn about how they're constructed
and how safe?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, it's like that dark thing. Like the situation itself
isn't spooky, but the fact that your brain can put
in all the missing pieces.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Well, and you know, and that's I guess that's kind
of our irrational side that makes that happen. But you know,
as safe as bridges are in architecture, you know, it has
come a very long way. But all it takes is
one story of one collapse, which we've had some of
those happening around the world that I think that sticks
with you. It's kind of like Jody with you know, flying,
which is the safest form of transportation by far.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's funny you say that, Yeah, you bring that up.
You're talking about the dark. They're talking about the bridges
under and over and on and all, and that's all.
And I'm center thinking, do I have anything like this
where I feel, you know, a real and true fear
that I could try to talk myself out of, but
there's no talking myself out of it, and that is it.
Being on an airplane. I do fine with it, but
(04:58):
I'm not comfortable until I'm safely landed. My mind goes
places with me.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, and that's one that's very easy to When you
start thinking that way, it gets bigger and it gets
bigger and bigger, and it's really strange.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I mean, to the point where y'all don't even buy
the same plane ticket.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, we used to not.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
We're getting better at that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, that's true, you're right, but we did. That was
our thing for a while. Jodi and I would not
fly togain.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
When the kids were little. I just thought of if
something happened to both of us at the same time,
I couldn't do it, so we would fly separately. But
we've flown together recently.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, she says that. Yeah, but I mean outside of it,
I don't know that I have any other I would
say that all those are fairly commonplace. I don't know
that I have any strange phobias. But the ones that
really will push the limit, you know, for me, will
be snakes. The one that really does, and I don't
know why it freaks me out so bad, is I
(05:53):
can walk through a spider web where there doesn't appear
to be a spider, but that's until I verify that
they are absolutely is no spider I am. I am
up tight, you know.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, I relate to that one. I've gotten to a
point where now where I'm not as afraid of spiders.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
My sister is a big animal lover and has really
challenged me. You know, spiders aren't bad. They eat bad insects.
But like you said, when you walk into a spider web,
you have no idea where that spider is. Right, the
spider's on you, it could feel threatened and then bite you.
If you see a spider on the ground, you know
where it is right, you keep a safe distance.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You're fine. Walk into a spider web, that spider is
on your neck. About to bite.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, well, you know, in my head that's exactly, especially
when there's nobody who verified for me around me. Chad
for that very very descriptive. I've gone so far as
to put my phone in selfie mode and take pictures where.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Spider webs always make when you come up with dance moves.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yeah, Every every single time I walk into a spider web,
I give myself a complete pat down head mac everywhere.
Just make sure I touch every part of my body
so that if the spider is there, it knows that
it's not welcome.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
See.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I mean, that's an example again where we're fearing the
things we can't see. It's kind of like the ghost
thing or anything else. It's the imagination that gets carried
away because you can't actually physically see it.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
That classic show and tel gag. Today, I brought my
pet tarantula and you hold up an empty box.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Right, We're all just human. These are not unusual things.
The unusual and sad part would be if you let
it stop you in your life, Like if I didn't
get on a plane anymore, that would be sad. And
I know that I have those conversations in my head,
(07:41):
you know, it's like, yeah, I don't well, I don't
love it, but I'm doing it because I'm living my life.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And there absolutely are people who experience very paralyzing phobia.
Is because that one of our great friends will not
he will drive across the country before he will get
on a plane. He just plans his three days in
advance and he will drive, you know, where he needs to. Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
The thing I have with the bridges, though, is it's
it's odd because you know, I grew up in New
Orleans bridges. I lived on the West Bank, went to
school in the East Bank, so I was crossing the
bridge twice a day every day. Yeah, well, maybe that's
part of the reason you had dreams about it, I
guess because I've had those dreams since I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
We all ride glass elevators every day in this building.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You're not speaking.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It's not a marketing book, and I've got friends who
can't do that.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I do it now without thinking. I mean, all these years.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know what, I didn't even think about that. You're
right about that. Think there were so many people that
when they come to this building the first timeator there's
some you will know because they're facing the doors and
they won't even turn to talk to you because they're
having a moment. And I remember at first I was
that way with these elevators, but we've written them for
so many years now, you yeah, yeah, I had break.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
No, there are some days where that elevator really does
just take a little bit longer to start going up.
I just don't like that.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
It has a jerk too every now. Yeah, it has
a jerk when you step into it and it comes
back up.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
But there's always the stairs.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, fears make it healthier. You missed any part
of the show All at Murphysamon Jody dot com
It's some merviy Sam and Jody after the show podcast.
And you know, it's interesting to me that the little
haunted experience that Jody and I had with you know,
Taylor and Phoebe because our youngest wanted to go stay
in a hunted bed and breakfast, as Jody told you.
And it's funny how your mind will get to you
because you know, I mean, it's when the lights went
out and the sun went down. That's where the questions
(00:20):
and sort of the you know, I don't want to
call it anxiety, but it was really just sort of.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And I can tell you because she was laying really
close to me and snuggling me, my heart was beating fast,
and I was I was worried about it beating too
fast for her to a don't want her to hear
it and think that I was scared, you know, trying
to be cool mom.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And so you contrast that with you know, the fact
that I didn't. I mean, for me, I enjoy it.
I love the charm of the place. It's it's it's
a lot of fun. But to me, I'm not scared
by it. It's just kind of like a fun story,
you know what I mean. Knowing that those things may happen.
It's just kind of to me, just kind of like, hey,
fun would be you know, funny if it happened.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You made me be a little freaked out if if
something happened, nothing happened into us.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well that's why I'm saying. I mean, nothing happened. But no,
I mean it really doesn't. That's not something that it's
It's not that I don't believe in it. It's just
not something that I'm scared of. But see, for me,
the thing would be it's not the phobia of a
spirit or a haunting you know this is coming. It
would be the dark. I don't like the dark. So
(01:22):
let me see. That's what I would be afraid of.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Powerless thing for you, you feel powerless.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Now, I don't know. I guess I just don't like
you know, I don't like the dark. Maybe I feel
claustrophobic in it. So I'm not afraid of a ghost
haunting me, you know. But but if you turn off
all the lights there, I actually wouldn't be scared of
the ghost. I would be scared of the dark.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Did you sleep with the night light on?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, lights run everywhere. Now the
room is not bright, you know what I mean? But yes,
I leave little lights on.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I've never see We've been married a long time, and
I don't think you've ever talked to me about being
afraid of the dark.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, but if you if you know this, we don't
ever sleep in a totally dark room.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
This is true.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
But and I don't have a strange affelity for flashlights.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Well, maybe being scared is too strong of a word.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
If not like it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
If I'm traveling alone and it gets dark, my brain
can run away with me, you know what I mean.
And it's not that somebody's gonna get me. I don't
know how to explain it.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It just leaves it entirely open to your imagination.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, it exactly, Bailey. So you know my mind run
you could be anywhere.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Okay, Well it's funny you say that because me and
Sam the other day we're talking about just like odd thing.
I'm not that being afraid of the dark is odd,
but just weird things to be afraid of. And I
know I was talking about being afraid of being underneath
an overpass, okay, like some people are scared of going
(02:40):
over bridges and stuff. But I'm just afraid to be underneath.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
One because your greatest fear would be.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I guess it's going to fall on you. But it's
also it's so loud and just so giant. It's so
much bigger than I am. You know, you're literally trusting
the engineers that built it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So you don't like, if you're in a traffic situation
and you get stuck on underneath an overpass, you're not happy.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
No, not at all. It's a weird spot to be in.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, I've been that way too. I won't pull up
far if I can keep out from being under it.
But I mean, Jody, you know my thing with bridges too.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh, that's right. I've ridden with Sam. I've had when
he started getting got.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You do freak out on bridges.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I've had real bridge dreams since I was little.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well I know, yeah, and I used to add those
when I was a kid. But does that translate to
real life? No? No, I've never fallen off a bridge. No,
I mean, are you afraid of a bridge in real life?
Certain ones?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
There's certain bridges really, if the conditions are right, it's
just like okay, yeah, And it's only because it's because
of the crest in the bridge at the top so.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You can't see on the other side of it. It
makes you nerve.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And I always just like barely doesn't want to get
under a thing. Yeah, I don't. It's like when I'm
going over it, it's like, Okay, not right now, not
right now. And then if I have to give it
the gas, I'll give it the gas in case the
bridge crumbles or something, or what if something well, what
if something already happened to the bridge and I don't
know it because I can't see you over the crest.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Would it help you to learn about how they're constructed
and how safe?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, it's like that dark thing. Like the situation itself
isn't spooky, but the fact that your brain can put
in all the missing pieces.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Well, and you know, and that's I guess that's kind
of our irrational side that makes that happen. But you know,
as safe as bridges are in architecture, you know, it has
come a very long way. But all it takes is
one story of one collapse, which we've had some of
those happening around the world that I think that sticks
with you. It's kind of like Jody with you know, flying,
which is the safest form of transportation by far.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's funny you say that, Yeah, you bring that up.
You're talking about the dark. They're talking about the bridges
under and over and on and all, and that's all.
And I'm center thinking, do I have anything like this
where I feel, you know, a real and true fear
that I could try to talk myself out of, but
there's no talking myself out of it, and that is it.
Being on an airplane. I do fine with it, but
(04:58):
I'm not comfortable until I'm safely landed. My mind goes
places with me.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, and that's one that's very easy to When you
start thinking that way, it gets bigger and it gets
bigger and bigger, and it's really strange.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I mean, to the point where y'all don't even buy
the same plane ticket.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, we used to not.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
We're getting better at that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, that's true, you're right, but we did. That was
our thing for a while. Jodi and I would not
fly togain.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
When the kids were little. I just thought of if
something happened to both of us at the same time,
I couldn't do it, so we would fly separately. But
we've flown together recently.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, she says that. Yeah, but I mean outside of it,
I don't know that I have any other I would
say that all those are fairly commonplace. I don't know
that I have any strange phobias. But the ones that
really will push the limit, you know, for me, will
be snakes. The one that really does, and I don't
know why it freaks me out so bad, is I
(05:53):
can walk through a spider web where there doesn't appear
to be a spider, but that's until I verify that
they are absolutely is no spider I am. I am
up tight, you know.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, I relate to that one. I've gotten to a
point where now where I'm not as afraid of spiders.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
My sister is a big animal lover and has really
challenged me. You know, spiders aren't bad. They eat bad insects.
But like you said, when you walk into a spider web,
you have no idea where that spider is. Right, the
spider's on you, it could feel threatened and then bite you.
If you see a spider on the ground, you know
where it is right, you keep a safe distance.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You're fine. Walk into a spider web, that spider is
on your neck. About to bite.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, well, you know, in my head that's exactly, especially
when there's nobody who verified for me around me. Chad
for that very very descriptive. I've gone so far as
to put my phone in selfie mode and take pictures where.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Spider webs always make when you come up with dance moves.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yeah, Every every single time I walk into a spider web,
I give myself a complete pat down head mac everywhere.
Just make sure I touch every part of my body
so that if the spider is there, it knows that
it's not welcome.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
See.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I mean, that's an example again where we're fearing the
things we can't see. It's kind of like the ghost
thing or anything else. It's the imagination that gets carried
away because you can't actually physically see it.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
That classic show and tel gag. Today, I brought my
pet tarantula and you hold up an empty box.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Right, We're all just human. These are not unusual things.
The unusual and sad part would be if you let
it stop you in your life, Like if I didn't
get on a plane anymore, that would be sad. And
I know that I have those conversations in my head,
(07:41):
you know, it's like, yeah, I don't well, I don't
love it, but I'm doing it because I'm living my life.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And there absolutely are people who experience very paralyzing phobia.
Is because that one of our great friends will not
he will drive across the country before he will get
on a plane. He just plans his three days in
advance and he will drive, you know, where he needs to. Unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
The thing I have with the bridges, though, is it's
it's odd because you know, I grew up in New
Orleans bridges. I lived on the West Bank, went to
school in the East Bank, so I was crossing the
bridge twice a day every day. Yeah, well, maybe that's
part of the reason you had dreams about it, I
guess because I've had those dreams since I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
We all ride glass elevators every day in this building.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You're not speaking.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It's not a marketing book, and I've got friends who
can't do that.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I do it now without thinking. I mean, all these years.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know what, I didn't even think about that. You're
right about that. Think there were so many people that
when they come to this building the first timeator there's
some you will know because they're facing the doors and
they won't even turn to talk to you because they're
having a moment. And I remember at first I was
that way with these elevators, but we've written them for
so many years now, you yeah, yeah, I had break.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
No, there are some days where that elevator really does
just take a little bit longer to start going up.
I just don't like that.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
It has a jerk too every now. Yeah, it has
a jerk when you step into it and it comes
back up.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
But there's always the stairs.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, fears make it healthier. You missed any part
of the show All at Murphysamon Jody dot com
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