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July 29, 2019 • 45 mins

Aussie John is here! đź™Ś

 We learn what he likes most about Americans, AND he dispels all moon landing conspiracy theories - with 1 statement! 



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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, it's Murphy Salmon, Jony after the show, the podcast,
and this is this is one, this is the three
of us have been looking forward to this forever and
so finally visiting with us is John, our friend who
we met, you know, from Australia. So first we say welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Good morning in Australian.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good h everyone.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
How everything that you say I'm in love with?

Speaker 5 (00:27):
We had dinner the other night and I saw I
stopped counting how many times.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
You use the word bloke for a dude a friend?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
See in America you used dude. We use blake or
man or mate or mate?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
What do you use for the ladies.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I have here? It's it's not counted, uh, ladies.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Sheila's Sheila the chick which Sam's favorite.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
And broads and babes okayla. That's interesting and different. Do
we say anything that strikes you was odd?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Oh? Oh yes? Everything like dude absolutely watched me out
every time that one of love? Yeah every time?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
That is that because dude means something else that has
a different connotation in Australia or.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Is it just because it's so unusual to hear it
from everyone?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, Women in Australia don't tend to use the good mate,
and I hear women go how you going, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
So for you that was more like a guys thing
between guys.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, mafia.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I think the dude thing kind of in the eighties
took on its whole just different thing in America, just.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
Because dude is really just sort of a it's a it's.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
A Western term, right, I mean, isn't the old West
US Western?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Then it became kind of a beach, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
See, that's where we probably had.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
And it's not It's not a word I use very often,
but I'll use it not as addressing someone, but like
if if Sam will show showed me something, it text
me something really awesome that he knows I'll love, I'll
send back dude.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
It's like wow.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
You know, yeah, we say wow. And a few times
I've had to text people and they go yeah, and
I'm like, Okay, it's slightly confusing it. But now I've
been here three weeks and it's well, I'm not into it.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
But.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I've come to realize what it's about.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
The other one I had a quick Joey had a
question about was cheers because I noticed when I held
the door open. Forget the restaurant cheers.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, it's it's between nights.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's not just a toast like cheers.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
No, No, it's like thanks.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, it's a thank you.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I like that. Yeah, I like that too.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I always thought it was more of like a hello
or just a greeting, but it's a thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Okay, well it can be all those things, okay, Receius. Again,
I confuse people when I when they open up the door,
or young gentleman is opening up the door and I
thank him, I'll just say cheers.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I guess it's the accent as well, because they're not
really sure what I've actually said the time.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Because right, No, well, I mean I see, I opened
the door and I froze for a second because you
said cheers. And I was like, because I'm used to
like thank you. You know, you'll open the door for
a lady or anybody and they go thanks, And so
when you said cheer as well, cheers as your thank you.
So yeah I got it.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, well, and so cheers. You know, typically, I guess
in the US is two people clinking glasses and toasting
to something. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Truly when we're out with mates and we've just been.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Out with mates, I love it.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And that when you you taste your first drink yo
and clink glasses just yo yeah, yeah yo yo.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I'm gonna remember that next time too. Once we're learning
so much.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
One thing we sort of touched on at dinner, which
I thought was super interesting now that it's a surprise
to we the Americans here, is that you find food
and portion sizes to be ridiculous in America.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yes, oh yeah, last night I struggled.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
So much.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
I thought it was being served for you and who else?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Right, ye, portion struggled. I love the entree size that
we got. And by the way, the food there last
night great, really seafood. I made the steak.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
Because you had a seafood pasta.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, it was great, really was. And we say prawns,
you say shrimp, Okay, shrimp lovely, really nice.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
As long as they have the heads on. We talked
about that.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
We talked about that. Well, I didn't pipe up last night. Okay.
In Australia, when we're having an outdoor back you backy barbecue,
sometimes on the barbecue, which is a grill out here,
we throw the whole. I don't. Then we slice it

(05:36):
up for the middle, throw a bit of garlic in,
eat the heads, pull the back off and the tail,
and eat the heads afterwards because they were all crunchy
and lovely with all the garlic in them. Really mash
them up big you eat them really?

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Yeah yeah, Okay, see the reason we brought it up
last night, Bailey, you weren't able to be with us.
I asked to order a shrimp dish, but with everything
on the menu had heads on, and I'm like, I
need one without the heads because I don't like the
eyes looking.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I just don't like the eye to show up, the head,
the face to show up and look at me if
I'm going to eat.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
It's something about the empathy you feel.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
For the.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Empathy and its eyeball.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
So I can with shrimp on the barbie if it's really.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, that's probably outback made that up. I suspect outback
steakhouse is not true authentically.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Well, what do you think you've been to an outback steakhouse?
Have you not?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
When you need to lend what medium red blue medium
to well done, well done and ovidly done blue?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
What's blue?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Blue? Is where you had the steak on one minute
one side, two minutes the other side, and then serve it.
That's blue.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
That's rare, so it's red what you call.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, it's still moving as well, you said, yeah, yeah,
still moving. And then a medium to well done is
where there's no juices coming out. People say blood. There's
no such thing as blood in meat. It's the juices
that come out. They just happen to look red and

(07:24):
all the rest. It's not blood. And medium to well
done means it's cooked all the way right through, very
little juices coming out, but the meat is still tender.
And then a well done is well done it's loss.
It's all its juices. It's no, it's not quite leather,

(07:46):
but it's well done.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
That's right. It does lose most of its flavor in
that process.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
You guys happen to like like it when they bring
it out on a plate and it's still cooking. Yeah, yeah,
get over that, right.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Other than Fosters, what is there Australian and Outback?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Oh okay, nothing. Look, they've gone to the taste of
America and they've opened up to the market. No, I
don't blame them, but when an Australian walks in and
they know one from Australia. You get told to eat
the chicken.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Wait, this is a real story.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's a real story.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
You went in there and you and they said you're
from Australia.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
What?

Speaker 3 (08:39):
And you said, I sat down and waitress came over
and I said, what does the waitress recommend? And she said,
you're from Australia said yes, I'm from Sydney. She goes,
let's try the chicken.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
She had no faith in the Australian.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
She had been told. I think she's been told once before.
But look, I love the onion rings and.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
That's not a true which is really Australian.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
You want to know how you want to know how
to cook onions? Okay, right up, You get the onions,
chop them up, take the skin off, don't cook them
with the skin. Brown sugar okay, depending on how much
you have, throw brown sugar in with them, cook them

(09:33):
up and they are brown sugar caramelized. And it's most
the simplest way of doing it. And if you want
mashed potato, try and mashed potato with sweet mashed potato
and brown sugar.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Okay, So what it sounds like to me.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
So we talked about veggiamite last night and Bailey, do
you know this is cool? I mean, Bailey, you're interested in.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
Foods, and I know that vegemite is a thing, but
I've never actually had it.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Last night from John, and I'd like you to repeat
for anyone who's interested. The reason that we as Americans
or anyone else in the world who can't understand why
Australians like vegemite is because we eat too much.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Of it, right, excessive.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
We're too excessive with our big gulp of it.

Speaker 7 (10:25):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, correct, Yeah, it's not paint.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
But guys, so small amounts.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Very small amount thank you, egg on the end of
a You know, I definitely acquired taste. But when you're
trying it, very small portions toast, very small post.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
It's just a very light spread.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Sobby, you wouldn't want a spoonful of it, right, you
just want a tiny tad for that kiss of taste.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I've never tried it.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I've we talked about last night with the painut about it. Yeah,
as I told these guys, if you want to lose weight,
stick with peanut butter on a spoon once one spoon,
Suck on it. It'll take away the cravings for eating

(11:17):
and everything else. But you've got to minimalize it. One
spoon at a time, not one after the other. Have
it for a meal on two or three maybe at
the most for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. That's it. You'll
lose weight, It will crave your appetite, drink lots of water,

(11:39):
and you will lose weight. Excessive with everything and it
just can't happen.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
That is interesting. It was because it was the first
question I asked you. With the plates and the portion
sizes here in the US.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Oh yeah, crazy?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Is that more so than restaurants in Australia too. Restaurants
in Australia don't serve portion Really do you feel you get.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Your well in austral and we probably don't get our money,
but we don't seriously, you pay for what you get,
you eat. If you're not satisfied, don't go back. That's
the straying way.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense to me.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, perfect, having any idea. How cool you sound us
to me? Then to listen to you talk all day.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
For anybody that doesn't know how we met, John, it
was kind of funny. Because we were joking at one point.
You know, we wanted to know from our from our
studios in the US. You know, we're based actually in Louisiana,
hurt everywhere, but we wanted to know where the farthest
from us listener would be. I'm not asking that question.
How do we ask the question?

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Did it?

Speaker 5 (12:44):
How is there so many ways people can listen on
your devices. You can listen anywhere in the world.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
We're going on about iHeart Radio and how it's a
napp and how you can download it and all the
risk and I think Sam and m when she was here, Yeah,
it's produced. Just I wonder where the Furthest goes out to.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
And the WN you look at that as a challenge
and I just read.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
It's probably me.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Hands up, I'm listening in Sydney.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well, I wasn't listening in Sydney. It was Coffs Harbor
was listening to you and the Furthest away I listened
to you was in Adelaide, which is and all the
way the hay Planes in the middle of Australia out
there we actually do have Wi Fi out in the

(13:35):
middle of the outback and I could listen to you
then but that's I tried to listen to you all
the way across to Perth once and it wasn't until
I was in Perth, but around Adelaide and down through
the Hay Planes.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
So I'm trying to picture that. If you're not familiar
with the geography of Australia, what part of the continent
is it?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Okay, Sydney, New South Wales, the East Coast, Perth. Western
Australia is the West coast Okay, Adelaide, Southwest Okay, all right,
hay Plains, middle West.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
So we have to work on the signal in Perth.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Make a note of that, Sam, Yeah, actually probably from
Cowgooling onwards. Yeah, yeah, puting gotcha.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
I have one thing that I've always wondered about Australia
in particular. I've always heard that it's its nature is
quite dangerous, Like how often do you think about just
the wildlife of Australia on a daily basis?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
You know, I didn't think about it. That's that is
probably the truth. It's our normal. Yeah, I've been up
to Northern Territory. In fact, I have a really funny
story from when I was about four years old. Jeeves,
we moved up to Darwin. My father was in the
navy and some person in the eighteenth century named the

(15:10):
major river in the Northern Territory the Alligator River. Australia
doesn't have alligators, everyone, we do not have We have
crocodiles to grow up to six meters long and way
over three and a half ton. They're big. Yeah, it
sounds like yeah, I could say some of the girls,

(15:32):
but we're on radio.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Now, I really want to know.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
And my father and all the Blakes who were in
the navy at the time had time off, so they
went out duck shooting. We were all kids and the
ducks were falling into the river and which were out
and go and get them because they didn't have dogs.
And people were taking photos and mothers were all there,

(16:03):
we're all swimming and everything else. We sent these photos
later on back to parents. My mother received about four
or five letters saying what are you doing swimming in
the Alligator River? We're like, well, I was. I didn't
know at the time I was young, but when I

(16:24):
looked back at it when I was about twelve or thirteen,
we were living in Cronulla at the time, I thought, wow,
that was pretty. But then when I spoke to my
father about he said, oh no, we had rifles there.
We were all ready in case any of them came up.
All that. It was all pretty guarded. And then sadly,

(16:47):
three weeks later a camper was taken in the same spot.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
So whoa, yeah it happens. Yeah, waters you play in.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
You decided not to go swim there again.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
I have been back there a couple of times and
the signs are all up there now saying don't swim,
and constantly you will have cars going backwards and forwards,
and every now and then the crocodiles will come out,
because crocodiles are very lazy. Same with alligators. They're very lazy.

(17:24):
When we have thirty foot tides, they go up and
down about thirty foot in Darwin and they will swim
in the tide. And that's why you saw the one
with the noodle wrapped around it on the internet, because
they just swim. They don't they don't swim, they don't

(17:47):
wag their tail. They just they got And when I
was up there the third time round, there was a
blake who used to run he's only just retired, by
the way, he used to run up there, and he
used to feed Angry. Angry as a massive crock, probably

(18:13):
over six meters long. He's lost one of his legs
in a fight with probably a bigger crocodile that was
up the river. So I don't ever think that anyone
is great, because there's always someone better. And he was
telling us just before we retired that he was fixing

(18:35):
the prop on one of the boats and everything else,
and he looked up and he was in the water
and you can't see a foot in front. He looked
up and all of a sudden, right next to him
went Angry, and he went and that is absolute closest
I ever want to get. And he said he was
like he was guad. He was walking on water to

(18:58):
it said two feet away and in the boat. And
to this day he can't tell you how he got out.
He just knows that it just jumped and Angry went by.
And he said, if he another inch two inches, and
Angry felled him because they close their eyes and they

(19:20):
just go. And he said, if Angry knew he was there,
would have been absolutely gone.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Scary.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, So don't ever think, you know. And they turn
up in cans on the beaches and there was a
fraid of one not or that long ago.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
On the public beaches. They shut the public.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Beaches in well sometimes they're public, but they say, oh,
it was a five meta crocodile, and everyone out here
thought they were talking about five feet. Oh, that's not
too big. Our alligators go to twelve feet and all

(20:01):
the rest, and finally about comment one thousand and something
or other, it goes, sorry, guys, this is in meters. Yeah,
that is three point three feet per one, right, and
it's like, oh, conversion, that's eighteen feet long.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Very pretty big.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, very say. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I always try to remember that a meter is a
little bit longer than a yard. That's all I remember.
I don't remember the mental conversion.

Speaker 7 (20:31):
But yeah, right, So I'm reading an article right now
about the crocodiles in uh like k Hill and the
river you were talking.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
About, yeah, Alligata.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Yeah, there's an estimated eighty thousand to one hundred thousand
crocodiles just in the top end of Australia.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
But besides that, we've got the deadliest snake in the book.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Okay, yeah, I've always heard all that, not just the wildlife,
but just the terrain, just the actual additions you.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Can turn nasty in less than two hours.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, that gives you such credibility for being so tough.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
That's compared to about one thousand to two thousand American
crocodiles in like Mexico, Central America and Florida.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Ye, we really do have to do something about it
because they're encroaching on areas where they've never been before.
At Oh, we eat our crocodile meat too, taste like chicken.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Which brings us back to out back.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Look, we tried to export our crocodile meat to America
and unfortunately environmentalists. I love you guys, but when you're
commenting on something that's happening in Australia and you don't
know what's happening yet, you're stopping a market that people
would quite literally save your own alligators and that so

(22:04):
they can breed and get back to the numbers that
they should. You know, there's a good point. We have
a problem, and we also have a big problem with
kangaroos at the moment. Really yeah, yeah, a huge problem.
We're in drought and we have been on and off
for the last twenty years. We have a massive kangaroo population.

(22:27):
Have you ever seen those guys suffer out in the
outback when there's.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
No water inner I don't want to see.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Them, Absolutely incredibly bad. And because environmentalists have stepped in
and everything else, we're not allowed to cull them. And
you know, Australia lives on the fact that we don't.
We don't waste anything. That's the whole point. We had
huge markets in America of kangaroo meat and everything else where.

(22:58):
These animals have survived forty fifty thousand years and they've
been through worst routs than the one that we're going
through at the moment now. I hate killing, I hate guns.
I hate a lot of things in life. And I
don't like using the word hate because it's a very
strong word and it's very emotional. But when people comment

(23:20):
on something that they have no idea about and they've
never been to a place, they've never seen it. And
I've seen truck drivers get out their trucks and youth
and age kangaroos alongside the road because they are suffering
so badly. Now that's to an Australian that's a huge waste,

(23:40):
incredible waste. Now, if we were allowed to cull them,
properly produce the meat and everything else. We had viable
markets all over the world for that. It's all been
stopped and now we have a massive problem where we're
literally farmers have to go out. Not only are they
euthanasia their own cattle and everything else, they now have

(24:03):
to do the wildlife as well, because we can't see
animals suffer. And the people who go out do these
calls are highly trained. A lot of them used to
be in the army and everything else. A lot of
them know what they're doing. And there are huge, big

(24:24):
regulations with everything. But you know, I'm all for hugging
a tree and everything else. But when you haven't been
out there and you're saying something, you know, this morning
someone put up online this thing and they used a
video that was the mad cow disease and blaming the

(24:47):
heat wave in Texas like misconception and these things are
used to get people's emotions. Well, come to Australia, you'll
really see what drought and heat wave really it really is.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Well, you know, it's today's social media world makes it
very difficult to weade through propaganda. How do you differentiate
the differentiate between FDA.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
And you guys have pointed this out many times over
the years and that that I've heard, and you know,
it's difficult, it really is, especially when one of the
biggest reasons why I stopped doing overnight trucking and all
the rest is because of the huge, big risk and
personal risk to myself. But it's also mentally strained. And

(25:34):
to watch other guys get out and do something because
they care and they love animals, it's pretty bad. Yeah,
And you know there are simple ways to deal with that,
you know, But anyway, I know, environmentals have got a
place in this world. Please just don't comment on something

(25:57):
unless you've actually seen it.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
For some context, there were about twenty four in twenty fifteen,
twenty four million human residents in Australia and forty four
million kangaroos in the last count.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
They haven't double the population.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
And crocodiles, yeah that sights as well.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
There were yeah, one hundred thousand round about.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
And we've lost all the markets.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Why.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, so we had very human ways of doing things.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Here's a dumb question because we don't have kangaroos, you know. Here,
I know what not to do and not approach your
black bear for example, you know in the Smokies, there's
the right question. Yeah, but I mean, so, but what
do you do if you see a kangaroo in your
backyard or you know, yeah, you know you're in America.
I get it.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
It's a different thing, Sam.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
I try to make it kangaroo, trying to make it
my path, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Me, you can't make it your pet because they wild. Right,
But kangaroos will not attack you unless they aggravated or
attacked or feel threatened. There are houses all around in
the suburbs and everything else like that, and they will
put photos up on kangaroo sitting out on the grass

(27:12):
this morning and all of that. Just ignore it, you know,
take a few photos of it, say hello, and that
keep your dogs away from them.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
Well, that's what I was wanting. I mean, do they
get into garbage cans or like that?

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Or the cartoons in my head I wanted.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
To add, Sam, I could honestly say, I'm well, this
is all going on. I'm remembering my girlfriend, Tracy and
her daughter seeing their first kangaroos up close in the wild,
and I said to Tracy, there were two once a mother,

(27:55):
once a Joey probably only about eighteen months old, and
she's going, oh yeah, and I said, now calm down,
because if you're not calm, they're going to take off
and that. So they just calmly walked over like nothing
was happening, like they were about to go and knock
on the front door of the house and they took

(28:17):
a color photos, stayed there, laid down, never moved. But
she was like and you know, raced across the street
and everything else like that, And I locked the car doors, yeah,
because I knew what was going to happen. The house
was l shaped and where they were sitting there was

(28:39):
a bush out the front. They would have been cornered.
They are nasty when.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
When they really punched, when they're cornered, I've seen the
actually punch.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah, they actually all except for they don't fold their hands.
They open them full claws and the claws are probably
m yeah like that wow on.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Razors basically oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
And when they scratched dan your face or whatever, or
crush your chest and that they are likely to prove
all eight layers wow, really yeah, And then they have.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
That's not the sweet kangaroo, I think.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, what's funny about that, John is if Jody, because
I know Jody's so well being married and all that.
If she saw a kangaroo, she would just like completely,
oh my god.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
Sweet.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
And you know if I ever I was calm around
the bears.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
Oh yeah, you were on the outside. You were excited
about it, right.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
So I will if I ever got a chance to
see a kangaroo, hopefully I'll be in Australia with you.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
We'll all just come visit.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Well, that would be cool, that would.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Be so cool.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I want to see dead. But you'll have to just
keep me calm. You'll have to remind me chill.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I'm not gone us. And if there's vicious kangaroos and
crocodiles everywhere and the world's most poisonous snake.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
But you've seen the story about Fluffy them, you haven't
you Fluffy? Yeah, it goes jogging on Sundays with all
the park joggers.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, Fluffy looking up.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
Bailey's all over it. So what has been your favorite
part of America so far? John Jeeves crikes, Look, it's
hard to great.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
And I came here for a couple of very good reasons.
Bucket list, you know, reasons. I'm doing it. I'm sitting
on two wheels. I'm going around America. I've had a
close call on a Harley. Yeah, tank slapper, had Borises

(30:55):
in my head yelling at me, telling me if I'm
gonna yeah, yeah, okay, and all the rest. And it
was pretty bad, like at eighty miles an hour because
that's the speed limit in Texas. I won't say what
I was doing, but that's the speeding like that, Yes,
fully back packed motorcycle rider concentrating on doing what he

(31:19):
was doing, back wheel in the air three and a
half feet minimum, because that front wheel came down first,
and that's what started the tank slapper, and that and
Boris yelling him ahead. He happens to be a motorcycle
analyst in Australia who writes about experiences and everything else.
The memory of what Boris wrote back in nineteen eighty

(31:42):
nine hit me in the forehead like a ton of bricks.
And I got out of that tank slapper very nicely.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
What what was that that he taught you?

Speaker 3 (31:52):
What? Look where you're going, Look where you want to go,
don't look what will happen? So totally ignore the handlebars,
keep a hold of them, gear down, rev touch the
rear brakes. Don't touch the front brakes. Don't touch the
front brakes. And this is going on in my heads,

(32:13):
over and over and Boris when he did it, he
was going down the Hume Highway in between Sydney and Melbourne.
He had it passinger on the back, probably about one
hundred and sixty pounds, and that I probably had about
forty five maybe fifty pounds of equipment and stuff on

(32:36):
the back. All the T shirts I bought from this
wonderful country. Yeah, came across with three T shirts and
I think I've got twelve now. So all of that
and just Boris in my head, going, you'll be upset
if if you mess this up badly. And I looked

(33:00):
where I wanted to go, didn't look anywhere else, ignored
the handlebars, ignored the tank. Even though it punched me
in the in the chest, I still got the lump
and pulled over flat tire. The whole works walked away, laughed,

(33:23):
put it up on the internet.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
We saw that, we saw your accident.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Well, I'm glad you're fine. Is fine, and you have
more miles to go.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I've got a lot more miles ago, a lot more.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, and so this one. I mean, you've only done
part of your bucket list. You're going to come back
next year and.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Complete the bucket list. I'm going to do Root sixty
six and I don't think I'll go into Chicago. Chicago
is not one of the places I really want to see.
I know, sorry those people who have been to Chicago
and say it's a lovely place. No, I just want
to do Route sixty six and then go down to

(34:06):
Daytona by week. There were a couple of other things
I want to do up through Montana and that, but
the biggest surprise. And I've been to Florida, Fort Lauderdale, Orlando,
the Space Center, Houston. I've been into Dallas, and sorry,

(34:31):
Dallas doesn't excite me. And that great place and you know,
for the people who live there and all the rest,
but that's not on my bucket list. I did one
of my bucket list things a long time ago, and
that was going down the One all the way from
the top right down through to San Diego. And that

(34:53):
was Highway one, Yeah, Highway one that, yeah, And it
wasn't long after I forget the name of place, but
it's before you hit San Francisco. The front of the
houses are actually standing on the cliff, and you can
go and open up the front door and they've got
it locked, and the house is missing, and the cliff

(35:14):
is missing and all the rest of it, and you
look straight down that's the Indian Ocean down there.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
It is like wow, yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
So that was one of my bucket.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Lists a long time ago. So I've done that part
and that's why I'm not going back up that way.
And I've done it all the way straight down to
San Diego. But when I got into San Diego, I
never got to go on the Midway. So this time
when I left California, I went straight down straight into
the Midway, ventured all over that. But the biggest surprise

(35:49):
of all this entire trip was the kid. A bit
of a story to it. Now, I knew about the
kid long before I knew about you.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Guys, right, because this is and this is for Bailey,
for Chad, You'll find this really cool because for somebody
from Australia, you wouldn't think Baton Rouge would be on
his mask. But you know, this is the reason he
is familiar with Baton Rouge in Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Okay, I've already said that my father was in the Navy.
In nineteen fifty eight, the Kid came into Sydney and
it was there for about a week. My father was
on board H Mayos Sydney at the time, and he
later transferred over to H Mayos Melbourne, which is the
aircraft carriers that we no longer have in it in

(36:38):
the Australian Navy. My father talked about it because I
later on joined the Navy, and I knew about the
kid through the story. You know, my father met the
Americans and all the rest, so I sort of was interested,
and I later joined the Navy. But when I found

(37:02):
out and heard about the kid was two thousand. I
think it might have been before two thousand, but I'll
say around about two thousand, so about nineteen years ago.
And I remember my father talking about it. So I
looked it up and I went, oh, it's now a museum.
Oh good, if I remember in America, down that way,

(37:22):
I'll go and have a look. So when I planned
this trip, and I blocked off all my media as
a sample, not because he used to look for me.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
He went private.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
I didn't want to let anything slip or whatever, because
I wasn't really sure whether I get the time off
work or whatever. And the kid was part of this
trip and that. But the biggest thing was, as we
all know, the fiftieth anniversary of the moonland and that

(38:00):
being a nine year old kid venturing out to the
middle of the outback around parks and all the rest
as a kid with my parents and then later on
matcycling and all the rest. Knowing the story seeing this huge,
big dish in a sheep farm and you know, I've
got photos of it when there were five hundred and

(38:23):
six hundred sheep running around in the paddock and that
of the dish. So when work sort of brought me
into semi retirement another long story, it was just wonderful.
It was like a real eye No, I could do

(38:45):
this now and that and so here I am.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
But I love that.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I think is a surprise when you say, when you
say dish, you know that's one of those. Obviously Australia, well,
I guess multiple countries were really instrumental in us being
able to pull off that moonlanding because you had to
have communications based around the planet to be able to
stay in contact with every Apollo mission.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
What I remind Americans about. And I love this part. Yeah,
Australia saw it nine seconds before you did.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Actually, And I just happened to read this during all
the fiftieth anniversary stuff. The video that was being down
from the moon was received in Australia and then it
was transmitted over to US, so the actual recordings and
I think they've been lost, but the original I guess
we should call the masters. Yes, which clearer pictures and

(39:37):
all that stuff was sent to Australia and then we
got everything, so we.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Saw a lot clearer than you guys.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, and nine seconds earlier, seconds earlier.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yeah, I'm glad you put that up again. I'm sorry,
but you know, it was a wonderful moment. And let
me tell you, America was probably ever on my map
until I saw those guys walking on the moon. And
I watched every Apollo from day one. It was a

(40:11):
project in school, to the problems, to the instigation, the happening,
and I won't give away any story, but I also
watched many things about Discovery and Atlantis and.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
The Shuttle program and all that.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah, how it came about, which is a wonderful story.
And I've got to give it to the ladies in
America because they really stepped up and helped and did
a lot of things that a lot of people don't
know about. Behind the scenes, they really did.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Everything was about those guys doing it. Yeah, well at
that time in.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
The pictures you saw a mission control where I'm in
and all that. But yeah, but obviously there were.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, look, you had to look behind and find out stories.
And I I think I've still got it back in Houston,
but there was a paper that came out. Woman is
still alive, and she had three children and they worked
around her and she ended up she was an engineer.

(41:15):
She worked on the program six months prior to the launch,
where the computer had to reboot every time and had
to go back exactly where it was. Program was never
ever around, and this woman was told, this is the
way the computer's got to react. And that was on

(41:37):
the landing. And everyone who knows anything about the landing
knows that the computer rebooted every couple of seconds be
course of an.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Alarm, and it was right in the middle of them,
and they're just going to land rebooting, it's like if
it doesn't come back.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And this woman if it wasn't for
her program and the people that she was in control, lot,
they would have aborted it, and you guys would have
never landed on the man. And for all the skeptics
from Australia, Okay, we've heard all the theories, right, I'll

(42:15):
put it to you this way and simple, it's not
a fake because Russia would have never ever have any cause,
let any country get away with a fake. There was
no way. And even Russia comes out these days and

(42:35):
says they did it, they beat us, and that if
it was a fake, we would have jumped on you.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, at that time, I mean that that that race
for space was a very real deal. And you're talking
about a time and I was not I was not
alive during that time in the early eighteen sixties where
you know everything the oldest we're work close, but you
know it. But just the you know, the way that

(43:04):
Russia was viewed in the Cold War and this, you know,
the sentiment or or the you know, lack of sentiment
between you know, America and Russia was a very very
real deal. So you're exactly right. If if we didn't
even attempted to do something as a fake. Of course,
it would have been called out.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
And by the way, strengths of room, we're not actors
and the world is not flat big.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
In this podcast.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Well, John, we're glad that you got to come to
your bucket list stuff, and we're really you know, beyond that,
it's just it's really cool to be able to connect
and meet you because we've only really talked my phone.
We met you on Facebook. When you reach out, I'm
probably the listener who's farthest away from you, and now
we get to see you in person. Was just a gift.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
And I've just noticed over next to town. Oh.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I brought so I could try the coffee trick and
I didn't want to produce a bailey.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
And yeah, it really good.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
I had one last night.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
I had four last night.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
With the call.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
I didn't do it with any liquid. I liked it
by itself. They tried it with the liquid.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, I bet the ends off and sucked up the coffee.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
And you forgot to tell us that after like the
first draw, it starts to fall apart.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
I was like, you do it with coffee or drud once, yeah,
and then you go yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (44:30):
It's probably one of the only things I've had that
was better with coffee.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
I think nice, really good.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Thank you for that special not Italian.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
And you know, yeah, and you know, John, you said
that they're not available in the States, and we went
and we looked on Amazon. Apparently there's somebody who's a reseller.
But when you start to look at the comments, I
don't know if they're just like getting them imported or something,
but people say that they're melted, or they're stale, or.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
They don't make it.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
It must not be a distributor that's in America for those.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Oh, there is a distributor and he's standing right now.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Thank you, our dear friend.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Can I dub the customs guy in the customs guy
who got one of my ten packets, that's right, the bloke, Yeah,
the spair one that I wanted.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Thanks John, will enjoy the rest of your ride, be
safe when you're early, and you know from me, oh,
we know, we will.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Thank you.
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