August 15, 2019 • 7 mins
Too many texts & relationship red flags. Who ignores them?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Murphy Samon Jody after the show, and I'm scratching
my head about this story I saw about a guy
arrested in Fort Lauderdale. I don't know if you saw
this or not, Murphy. I don't know how he accomplished
what he's been alleged to do. But in a two
week period, he was stalking a woman on text and
then basically stalking by, like repeatedly texting her, and he
(00:23):
sent her ten thousand texts in two weeks. I don't know.
I mean, I don't know. You probably have to be continually.
I don't know how you actually do that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Physically possible. What I'm saying is, at what point does
she just take her phone and throw it in the ocean?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, I mean, you don't want to do that before
you at least give it to the authorities, take the information,
you know. But and that is she turns it over
to the authorities. I mean, I'm assuming after the first
ten ten texts, maybe right, it was time.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But we're gonna we're gonna put some math into this.
Hundred and thirty six hours and how many how many
weeks was that?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, I'm rounding it up.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I said two weeks, but it was actually twelve days
according to the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Okay, well, let's just stick with the two weeks here. Okay,
there's there's.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Three hundred thirty six hours ten thousand texts over that
many hours is twenty nine an hour.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
So you have to be awake for the full.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Twenty nine an hour straight for two weeks.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Psychot it Oh my gosh, yeah, you know, And so
I realized that there's a sickness probably that goes with this.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It was the nature of the text I'm asking, seriously,
are they was it mumbo jumbo? Was it was it?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
He was able to cover a lot of territory all
the way some of them. Some of them were explicit,
some of them were threatening. Some of them were random
things that made no.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Sense, super scary, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Some of them were parking tickets. I mean, it was
just kind of all sorts of weird tickets. Maybe why
is he texting parking? Maybe he was grabbing anything you
can think of on his phone. Oh well, that looks
good to send that, but you know it's the simple Yeah,
what's weird about this is this person really was an acquaintance.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
They didn't have he was an acquaintance, so she was
given her number by her at some point.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I imagine if it was ten thousand texts.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Some of those were like repeated, like question mark sin,
question mark sin, question mark sin.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Done this before, Bailey, I've been on.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
The receiving end of some of this kind of stuff.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Oh so you got mine?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So the arrest of it, Evid says that the woman
who was getting the text knew this guy through a friend,
but they had never really spoken directly, so, you know,
apparently he took an interest in her and.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Started texting her.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I wonder if I was unlimited text because that's really
going to mess with this plan.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, that's probably so, Sam. And do you think he
cares about his plan?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
So I guess add that charge on top of his bail.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
I got a message from at and T I'm over
my text limit. I should stop harassing her.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
You know, when you first meet somebody, I don't care
if it's whether they're going to become a friend of
yours or just like a coworker, a colleague, or if
they're going to become like there's it's a hey, I'm
giving you my number. You know, we're both single, let's see.
You know what happens. There are clues and red flags
in the beginning. If there's something that seems off to
you in the beginning, there's something off. I believe in
(03:11):
trusting your gut. So before the first you know, one
hundred messages, she probably got some little thing that something's
off here. Don't tell me. Somebody who can do that
is not off. In other ways. I will tell you
a story from long ago. You've never heard the story, Murphy,
because I never went out with this guy. But there
was this guy who he and I flirted at some
(03:33):
party once. This is a long time ago. Before iding
you like long ago.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I'm glad to know. It wasn't last week.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
That's a company Christmas party last year.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
This is long ago. And he got my phone number.
We were at a party together. I'm talking like I'm
maybe nineteen twenty years old.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay, so this is before you were texting anything anywhere, right, Yes.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
This is home phones.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
This is home phones. He had my phone number, and
you know, it was like implied that he was he
got my phone number and he was going to ask
me out. And I was actually excited about it because
I thought I liked him. You know what I mean.
And so fast forward a couple of days and I
have a bunch of friends over at my apartment, at
my house and we're playing games and you know, just
(04:16):
doing whatever movies are on. We're having fun. He calls
at that moment and I'm like, hey, what's up, and
he can hear everything, and he didn't like it, and
he started to get funny about it. Oh, you know
a bunch of people ever, and you didn't invite me?
And that was it. That's all he had to say.
And I never took his phone call again because I
(04:37):
am super sensitive to red flags and I was then too.
So if you got any crazy and you bring it,
and you bring it in the beginning a lot, you
know you you know it early on usually if you
have a good whatever detector.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Well it's good to know it earlier. It's also good
to pay attention to it or to acknowledge it. Acknowledge
it because not ignore it. I think in my past
that has been my issue a couple of time times.
What sam that you ignored red flags? Ignore? Yeah, ignore
the red flags or the crazy and.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Just push right.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
So wait, looking back, I'm not giving names, and no
I don't want you to do that, would never do that. Well,
the first time out with you're saying that you did
see red flags, but you chose to ignore them so
that you could have the relationship. Yeah, and that's so human.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
But I don't know that it was intent. I don't
know how intentional the ignoring was, sure, or it was
just reasoning with yourself that yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Know you lie to yourself.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yeah, sure, Oh it's just.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
She's only going four days a week. But the good
news is I've learned.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It is good that you've learned.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Oh yeah, I can spy crazy a mile away.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Talk about this stuff. I talk about this stuff to
our girls all the time, Murphy about you know what,
that's the right You need to know if so and
so is acting this way, now you know, if you
continue with this.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
No, but I don't think it's always all just craziness.
Sometimes it's just the personality is not going to mix.
And you need to know that in the beginning. If
you if your approach to life and you know the
way that you handle yourself is not the same as
this other person, or if they're controlling, I mean, yes,
controlling is not a great idea. It doesn't mean that
they're crazy, but if it's somebody who's like, what do
you mean you didn't invite me?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, even I didn't even want to know what
that was. I didn't care to delve in that. Really
that means he's controlling, which he was from when I
later learned, or just crazy or you know, ten thousand
text stalker. I didn't want to know because to me,
I was like, you don't have any right to judge
what I'm doing right now. You know, he didn't even
know my middle name.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Then he called back.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
He did try to.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Call back many times, and I didn't return his phone calls.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Boy, how did you know he called?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Did he leave a message?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Or yes?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Really he used to leave messages and so was.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He like I ghosted him?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Was the intense in the messages or not? Or was
he kind of trying to make up for his I
don't remember.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That is so long ago. But I was not interested
anymore because I was sensitive to the telling me what
to do sort of being you know already I felt
like I felt emotionally emotionally manipulated, like trying to make
me feel bad because I had my friends over.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yah, I don't think so yeah, well that's a controlling person.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Talk to your kids about red flags, though, I mean
talk to them about it. Trust your guts?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Was you either trust your gut or you wind up
going on Sam's road, you know, which was really a
long road, rocky and bouncy and you know, funny, the
whole good place now real hilarious.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Missed any part of the show.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Get it all at Murphy Salmon Jody dot com.
It's Murphy Samon Jody after the show, and I'm scratching
my head about this story I saw about a guy
arrested in Fort Lauderdale. I don't know if you saw
this or not, Murphy. I don't know how he accomplished
what he's been alleged to do. But in a two
week period, he was stalking a woman on text and
then basically stalking by, like repeatedly texting her, and he
(00:23):
sent her ten thousand texts in two weeks. I don't know.
I mean, I don't know. You probably have to be continually.
I don't know how you actually do that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Physically possible. What I'm saying is, at what point does
she just take her phone and throw it in the ocean?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, I mean, you don't want to do that before
you at least give it to the authorities, take the information,
you know. But and that is she turns it over
to the authorities. I mean, I'm assuming after the first
ten ten texts, maybe right, it was time.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But we're gonna we're gonna put some math into this.
Hundred and thirty six hours and how many how many
weeks was that?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, I'm rounding it up.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I said two weeks, but it was actually twelve days
according to the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Okay, well, let's just stick with the two weeks here. Okay,
there's there's.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Three hundred thirty six hours ten thousand texts over that
many hours is twenty nine an hour.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
So you have to be awake for the full.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Twenty nine an hour straight for two weeks.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Psychot it Oh my gosh, yeah, you know, And so
I realized that there's a sickness probably that goes with this.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It was the nature of the text I'm asking, seriously,
are they was it mumbo jumbo? Was it was it?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
He was able to cover a lot of territory all
the way some of them. Some of them were explicit,
some of them were threatening. Some of them were random
things that made no.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Sense, super scary, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Some of them were parking tickets. I mean, it was
just kind of all sorts of weird tickets. Maybe why
is he texting parking? Maybe he was grabbing anything you
can think of on his phone. Oh well, that looks
good to send that, but you know it's the simple Yeah,
what's weird about this is this person really was an acquaintance.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
They didn't have he was an acquaintance, so she was
given her number by her at some point.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I imagine if it was ten thousand texts.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Some of those were like repeated, like question mark sin,
question mark sin, question mark sin.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Done this before, Bailey, I've been on.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
The receiving end of some of this kind of stuff.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Oh so you got mine?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So the arrest of it, Evid says that the woman
who was getting the text knew this guy through a friend,
but they had never really spoken directly, so, you know,
apparently he took an interest in her and.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Started texting her.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I wonder if I was unlimited text because that's really
going to mess with this plan.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, that's probably so, Sam. And do you think he
cares about his plan?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
So I guess add that charge on top of his bail.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
I got a message from at and T I'm over
my text limit. I should stop harassing her.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
You know, when you first meet somebody, I don't care
if it's whether they're going to become a friend of
yours or just like a coworker, a colleague, or if
they're going to become like there's it's a hey, I'm
giving you my number. You know, we're both single, let's see.
You know what happens. There are clues and red flags
in the beginning. If there's something that seems off to
you in the beginning, there's something off. I believe in
(03:11):
trusting your gut. So before the first you know, one
hundred messages, she probably got some little thing that something's
off here. Don't tell me. Somebody who can do that
is not off. In other ways. I will tell you
a story from long ago. You've never heard the story, Murphy,
because I never went out with this guy. But there
was this guy who he and I flirted at some
(03:33):
party once. This is a long time ago. Before iding
you like long ago.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I'm glad to know. It wasn't last week.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
That's a company Christmas party last year.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
This is long ago. And he got my phone number.
We were at a party together. I'm talking like I'm
maybe nineteen twenty years old.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay, so this is before you were texting anything anywhere, right, Yes.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
This is home phones.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
This is home phones. He had my phone number, and
you know, it was like implied that he was he
got my phone number and he was going to ask
me out. And I was actually excited about it because
I thought I liked him. You know what I mean.
And so fast forward a couple of days and I
have a bunch of friends over at my apartment, at
my house and we're playing games and you know, just
(04:16):
doing whatever movies are on. We're having fun. He calls
at that moment and I'm like, hey, what's up, and
he can hear everything, and he didn't like it, and
he started to get funny about it. Oh, you know
a bunch of people ever, and you didn't invite me?
And that was it. That's all he had to say.
And I never took his phone call again because I
(04:37):
am super sensitive to red flags and I was then too.
So if you got any crazy and you bring it,
and you bring it in the beginning a lot, you
know you you know it early on usually if you
have a good whatever detector.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Well it's good to know it earlier. It's also good
to pay attention to it or to acknowledge it. Acknowledge
it because not ignore it. I think in my past
that has been my issue a couple of time times.
What sam that you ignored red flags? Ignore? Yeah, ignore
the red flags or the crazy and.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Just push right.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
So wait, looking back, I'm not giving names, and no
I don't want you to do that, would never do that. Well,
the first time out with you're saying that you did
see red flags, but you chose to ignore them so
that you could have the relationship. Yeah, and that's so human.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
But I don't know that it was intent. I don't
know how intentional the ignoring was, sure, or it was
just reasoning with yourself that yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Know you lie to yourself.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yeah, sure, Oh it's just.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
She's only going four days a week. But the good
news is I've learned.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It is good that you've learned.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Oh yeah, I can spy crazy a mile away.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Talk about this stuff. I talk about this stuff to
our girls all the time, Murphy about you know what,
that's the right You need to know if so and
so is acting this way, now you know, if you
continue with this.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
No, but I don't think it's always all just craziness.
Sometimes it's just the personality is not going to mix.
And you need to know that in the beginning. If
you if your approach to life and you know the
way that you handle yourself is not the same as
this other person, or if they're controlling, I mean, yes,
controlling is not a great idea. It doesn't mean that
they're crazy, but if it's somebody who's like, what do
you mean you didn't invite me?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, even I didn't even want to know what
that was. I didn't care to delve in that. Really
that means he's controlling, which he was from when I
later learned, or just crazy or you know, ten thousand
text stalker. I didn't want to know because to me,
I was like, you don't have any right to judge
what I'm doing right now. You know, he didn't even
know my middle name.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Then he called back.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
He did try to.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Call back many times, and I didn't return his phone calls.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Boy, how did you know he called?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Did he leave a message?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Or yes?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Really he used to leave messages and so was.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He like I ghosted him?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Was the intense in the messages or not? Or was
he kind of trying to make up for his I
don't remember.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That is so long ago. But I was not interested
anymore because I was sensitive to the telling me what
to do sort of being you know already I felt
like I felt emotionally emotionally manipulated, like trying to make
me feel bad because I had my friends over.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yah, I don't think so yeah, well that's a controlling person.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Talk to your kids about red flags, though, I mean
talk to them about it. Trust your guts?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Was you either trust your gut or you wind up
going on Sam's road, you know, which was really a
long road, rocky and bouncy and you know, funny, the
whole good place now real hilarious.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Missed any part of the show.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Get it all at Murphy Salmon Jody dot com.
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