September 30, 2020 • 9 mins
Did Sam watch the debate all wrong? 😬
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for Murphy, saman Jody after the show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You know, it was so funny because the three of
us handled the first presidential debate twenty twenty very differently.
So last night Murphy watched every bit of it. I
went to bed one moon and came to bed.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm right, I'm one of those that I mean, I
want to be an informed voter. And you know, and
by the way, we're not going to get political here
on this. We're just going to provide some observations. This
is it doesn't matter whether you're for both candidates, not
for either candidate, or whatever. Right, I mean, it's it's
pretty plain and simple that this debate was like none
other in history.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, you know, but the thing about it is, too Murphy,
nobody is going to make up their mind based on
a debate.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, I've never had.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I thought that that was really interesting because after I
watched the whole thing and bounced around because I bounced
around to all the networks, I just wanted to see
what everybody's take was on it. And you know, I mean,
most of it was still the frustration over the you know,
the interruption, the mud slinging from both sides, and just
all of that. It was just really it was not
any thing like I think we've seen in the past.
(01:02):
It certainly wasn't decorum, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't think we respected that either at this time.
For whatever reason, we didn't expect it.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well maybe maybe I hope to see something because to me, again,
it doesn't really matter who you are for, and maybe
neither of those candidates is the person that you're planning
on voting for. However, a debate, to me, in the
sense of a debate, is really supposed to be just that, right,
You're supposed to be going back and talking about issues
and not you know it, But in politics it always
(01:32):
becomes that. Now mudslinging has become the way that things are.
And I guess if you go way back in time
to JFK and Richard Nixon, which I think were the
very first televised live debates there, I guess it's been
you know, debates on radio before them, but those were
the first televised live debates. That's where you know, I
think politicians learned the look is everything, you know what
(01:55):
I mean, because.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Because that did help decide that election because Richard Nick
and basically after.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
That everybody was like, who was this young? You know,
strong Senator. Well, I will tell you this is what
the reason I brought it up is, because it's just
funny to me is that Murphy watched every bit of it.
I watched twenty or thirty minutes, and I was like,
I'm out of there. I got a peace out, you know,
I'm going to go to sleep, you know, in peace
or whatever. And then Sam you to watch any of it.
(02:22):
And Sam's getting all of his recaps on social media today,
which is the worst.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Place, surely the most dangerous. I understand what you're saying.
You know, social media is not the place to get
any information but social media. And when I when I
got up this morning on social media, I looked over
the internet and the general consensus is that it was
what we're saying, what you're saying. So, yeah, I didn't
waste my time on it, and I get the same idea.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
What's funny about me is that I don't allow myself
to get worked up about it. Did you catch what
I was doing when I was in the family room
with you, Murphy when it was on, I was laughing.
There are parts of it that cracked me up. I
almost watched it for sports, because nobody is watching it
to decide to see what you think about who. People
aren't watching it for that. You almost watch it because
(03:09):
it's like, how are they going to treat one another?
And what are going to be the big sound bites
of the night.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I guess maybe that's not something that I thought about
until they did the poll afterwards where they said the
polls basically showed that everybody felt the same before and
after the debate. But that's not something I really whatever
thought about that. I know that debates aren't the kind
of things that are necessarily going to change, you know,
somebody's voting petition as known as looking for But I mean,
(03:36):
even though I mean I respect what you're saying, Sam,
but to me, if you don't actually if you're going
to make an election decision based on what you see
third party from someone else instead of you actually doing
the fact finding hearing what the candidates say themselves, then
you're probably not doing yourself a favor, you know what
I mean. That's really it. But this is also a
(03:57):
different time in politics where it is so skewed and
so whatever it is now noisy. There's so much emotion
around it that it's difficult to actually understand that, you know,
from a debate. So it's funny I'm sitting there as
I'm talking about this. You know, maybe the best thing
to do is you actually just go back and you
look at the actual record of all candidates to see
(04:18):
what they're really done instead of what they say.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, and when you do that, you got to find
the credible sources to look for that information because all
the junk is out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You know what ended up making me laugh and cracked
me up was that that Joe Biden was at times
looking directly into the camera. I was like, oh, look,
he's doing that trick. I say, trick. But apparently since
the first televised debate, that was one of the reasons.
That was one of the things that Kennedy Yeah, right right,
(04:49):
he did that from jump and over the years of
I remember watching other debates, you know, years ago, other
presidential debates, and it was like, you know, I remember
sitting next to someone going, look, this was this candidate's
going to look into the camera and this candidate is
not going to because that's just part of it. And
I thought, oh, that was funny. You know, you just
never know what to expect.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, the televised debate brings totally different dynamic where if
you're not looking into the camera, then there's sort of
the lack of personal connection. In other words, it's if
not talking to me. Yeah, if you see see candidates
arguing with each other, it becomes voyeuristic and you're all
of a sudden listening in on a conversation. And you know,
(05:33):
so I understand that tactic also, I guess just you know,
for me, I was just surprised, and maybe I shouldn't
be surprised, but it seems to me that for all
the noise that gets slung around in rallies and those
kinds of things, when you do come together as candidates
to discuss issues and actually answer the moderator's questions, that
(05:56):
that's really to me, what should be do.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You expect more to Yeah, I mean, as far as
debates go, there are rules, questions are known ahead of time.
You know how much time you're gonna get. You know
how much time you're gonna get for rebuttal.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Which everybody's even agreed to in advance.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
But right, right, so you just kind of knew going
into this one that. I mean one of the memes
I've seen his next next debate, they need to have
Samuel L.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Jackson the moderator.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You'll keep things under control.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I know I've seen that too, and that's Chris Wallace
is taking a lot of heat today, but that was
a very difficult job he had. He's taking a lot
of heat for not being able to rain them in.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
But oh my gosh, well you're talking about two people
that were just so intense with each other that you
couldn't it was. I felt for him. I really did.
Look Chris Wallace, you know, to forget what networks are
attached to. His dad was Mike Wallace at CBS. You know,
he's he's from a family of journalists, and I really
do feel that he was trying to keep things on point,
but it was just out of control. And so I
(06:56):
don't know how you fixed that for the next debate
or if you're if you're able to, because it's only
going to be as good as with the candidates agree to,
you know, to do.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
The next debate is actually next week and it's the
vice presidential debate. Yeah, so to be believe Amala Harris.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Those two it's going to be a little more decorous.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Now only in Salt Lake City, and then the next
presidential debate will be two weeks after that, I want
to say, October fifteenth in Miami.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Okay, so looking at it, there's four total the next
presidential debate. Or you expecting anything different?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I expect a different moderator.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, But I mean, are you thinking, okay,
their teams are going to talk to them now and
calm them down and behave like adult.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That's a really good question. Well, you know, I also
saw a survey that said that most people excuse me,
most people only watch the first debate, right, I mean,
so once that, that's that's it. Interest really wanes right
after that. But I wonder this time if it was
so noisy and such a mess that you'll go back
(07:55):
and watch the second to see what happens. I guess
I would be curious this time to see what, you know,
will be more the same, and if it is more
the same the next time. I don't know that I
can last through it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
No, it depends on how into it you are. We
all have Again, this is go into all of this
and other people who could care less, And.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Again, this is not We're purposely not being candidates specific here,
because this is not about who you're voting for. This
is about a setting, you know, with candidates and a
moderator that just went off the rails. And maybe I
just don't remember some of them, you know, some of
these debates from from the past, but I do.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I feel like debates have always been this way, talking
on top of each other, and.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
They have usually they're thirty They do stay sort of
within the parameters. You do have some name calling, you
do have some talking on top of each other, but
this was like to the nth degree.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, but you didn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Well, I don't need to, Okay, am I lying about
anything so far?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
No, I guess not missed any part of the show.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It all at murphysamon Jody dot com.
It's time for Murphy, saman Jody after the show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You know, it was so funny because the three of
us handled the first presidential debate twenty twenty very differently.
So last night Murphy watched every bit of it. I
went to bed one moon and came to bed.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm right, I'm one of those that I mean, I
want to be an informed voter. And you know, and
by the way, we're not going to get political here
on this. We're just going to provide some observations. This
is it doesn't matter whether you're for both candidates, not
for either candidate, or whatever. Right, I mean, it's it's
pretty plain and simple that this debate was like none
other in history.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, you know, but the thing about it is, too Murphy,
nobody is going to make up their mind based on
a debate.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, I've never had.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I thought that that was really interesting because after I
watched the whole thing and bounced around because I bounced
around to all the networks, I just wanted to see
what everybody's take was on it. And you know, I mean,
most of it was still the frustration over the you know,
the interruption, the mud slinging from both sides, and just
all of that. It was just really it was not
any thing like I think we've seen in the past.
(01:02):
It certainly wasn't decorum, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't think we respected that either at this time.
For whatever reason, we didn't expect it.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well maybe maybe I hope to see something because to me, again,
it doesn't really matter who you are for, and maybe
neither of those candidates is the person that you're planning
on voting for. However, a debate, to me, in the
sense of a debate, is really supposed to be just that, right,
You're supposed to be going back and talking about issues
and not you know it, But in politics it always
(01:32):
becomes that. Now mudslinging has become the way that things are.
And I guess if you go way back in time
to JFK and Richard Nixon, which I think were the
very first televised live debates there, I guess it's been
you know, debates on radio before them, but those were
the first televised live debates. That's where you know, I
think politicians learned the look is everything, you know what
(01:55):
I mean, because.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Because that did help decide that election because Richard Nick
and basically after.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
That everybody was like, who was this young? You know,
strong Senator. Well, I will tell you this is what
the reason I brought it up is, because it's just
funny to me is that Murphy watched every bit of it.
I watched twenty or thirty minutes, and I was like,
I'm out of there. I got a peace out, you know,
I'm going to go to sleep, you know, in peace
or whatever. And then Sam you to watch any of it.
(02:22):
And Sam's getting all of his recaps on social media today,
which is the worst.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Place, surely the most dangerous. I understand what you're saying.
You know, social media is not the place to get
any information but social media. And when I when I
got up this morning on social media, I looked over
the internet and the general consensus is that it was
what we're saying, what you're saying. So, yeah, I didn't
waste my time on it, and I get the same idea.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
What's funny about me is that I don't allow myself
to get worked up about it. Did you catch what
I was doing when I was in the family room
with you, Murphy when it was on, I was laughing.
There are parts of it that cracked me up. I
almost watched it for sports, because nobody is watching it
to decide to see what you think about who. People
aren't watching it for that. You almost watch it because
(03:09):
it's like, how are they going to treat one another?
And what are going to be the big sound bites
of the night.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I guess maybe that's not something that I thought about
until they did the poll afterwards where they said the
polls basically showed that everybody felt the same before and
after the debate. But that's not something I really whatever
thought about that. I know that debates aren't the kind
of things that are necessarily going to change, you know,
somebody's voting petition as known as looking for But I mean,
(03:36):
even though I mean I respect what you're saying, Sam,
but to me, if you don't actually if you're going
to make an election decision based on what you see
third party from someone else instead of you actually doing
the fact finding hearing what the candidates say themselves, then
you're probably not doing yourself a favor, you know what
I mean. That's really it. But this is also a
(03:57):
different time in politics where it is so skewed and
so whatever it is now noisy. There's so much emotion
around it that it's difficult to actually understand that, you know,
from a debate. So it's funny I'm sitting there as
I'm talking about this. You know, maybe the best thing
to do is you actually just go back and you
look at the actual record of all candidates to see
(04:18):
what they're really done instead of what they say.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, and when you do that, you got to find
the credible sources to look for that information because all
the junk is out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You know what ended up making me laugh and cracked
me up was that that Joe Biden was at times
looking directly into the camera. I was like, oh, look,
he's doing that trick. I say, trick. But apparently since
the first televised debate, that was one of the reasons.
That was one of the things that Kennedy Yeah, right right,
(04:49):
he did that from jump and over the years of
I remember watching other debates, you know, years ago, other
presidential debates, and it was like, you know, I remember
sitting next to someone going, look, this was this candidate's
going to look into the camera and this candidate is
not going to because that's just part of it. And
I thought, oh, that was funny. You know, you just
never know what to expect.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, the televised debate brings totally different dynamic where if
you're not looking into the camera, then there's sort of
the lack of personal connection. In other words, it's if
not talking to me. Yeah, if you see see candidates
arguing with each other, it becomes voyeuristic and you're all
of a sudden listening in on a conversation. And you know,
(05:33):
so I understand that tactic also, I guess just you know,
for me, I was just surprised, and maybe I shouldn't
be surprised, but it seems to me that for all
the noise that gets slung around in rallies and those
kinds of things, when you do come together as candidates
to discuss issues and actually answer the moderator's questions, that
(05:56):
that's really to me, what should be do.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You expect more to Yeah, I mean, as far as
debates go, there are rules, questions are known ahead of time.
You know how much time you're gonna get. You know
how much time you're gonna get for rebuttal.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Which everybody's even agreed to in advance.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
But right, right, so you just kind of knew going
into this one that. I mean one of the memes
I've seen his next next debate, they need to have
Samuel L.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Jackson the moderator.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You'll keep things under control.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I know I've seen that too, and that's Chris Wallace
is taking a lot of heat today, but that was
a very difficult job he had. He's taking a lot
of heat for not being able to rain them in.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
But oh my gosh, well you're talking about two people
that were just so intense with each other that you
couldn't it was. I felt for him. I really did.
Look Chris Wallace, you know, to forget what networks are
attached to. His dad was Mike Wallace at CBS. You know,
he's he's from a family of journalists, and I really
do feel that he was trying to keep things on point,
but it was just out of control. And so I
(06:56):
don't know how you fixed that for the next debate
or if you're if you're able to, because it's only
going to be as good as with the candidates agree to,
you know, to do.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
The next debate is actually next week and it's the
vice presidential debate. Yeah, so to be believe Amala Harris.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Those two it's going to be a little more decorous.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Now only in Salt Lake City, and then the next
presidential debate will be two weeks after that, I want
to say, October fifteenth in Miami.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Okay, so looking at it, there's four total the next
presidential debate. Or you expecting anything different?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I expect a different moderator.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, But I mean, are you thinking, okay,
their teams are going to talk to them now and
calm them down and behave like adult.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That's a really good question. Well, you know, I also
saw a survey that said that most people excuse me,
most people only watch the first debate, right, I mean,
so once that, that's that's it. Interest really wanes right
after that. But I wonder this time if it was
so noisy and such a mess that you'll go back
(07:55):
and watch the second to see what happens. I guess
I would be curious this time to see what, you know,
will be more the same, and if it is more
the same the next time. I don't know that I
can last through it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
No, it depends on how into it you are. We
all have Again, this is go into all of this
and other people who could care less, And.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Again, this is not We're purposely not being candidates specific here,
because this is not about who you're voting for. This
is about a setting, you know, with candidates and a
moderator that just went off the rails. And maybe I
just don't remember some of them, you know, some of
these debates from from the past, but I do.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I feel like debates have always been this way, talking
on top of each other, and.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
They have usually they're thirty They do stay sort of
within the parameters. You do have some name calling, you
do have some talking on top of each other, but
this was like to the nth degree.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, but you didn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Well, I don't need to, Okay, am I lying about
anything so far?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
No, I guess not missed any part of the show.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It all at murphysamon Jody dot com.
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