September 9, 2025 • 34 mins
It's been a minute since I was able to sit down and talk with the inimitable Sarah McLachlan, but today I got my chance! Sarah is in a new chapter of her life and releasing new music that reflects the experiences that have shaped her and her dreams for the future.
BETTER BROKEN, releases on September 19th and it is as soulfully beautiful as anything we expect from this three-time GRAMMY winner, an uncompromising but radically illuminating truth about the state of the human condition.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, my friend. Welcome, Welcome to love someone with Delilah.
What what a summer we've had. Even though it's still
hotter than blazes in some areas outside, this beloved season
is wrapping up, trees starting to show orange and gold already.
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The apples are heavy, they're ripe, they're falling to the ground.
I can smell autumn on the breeze. The changes of
the season are always bittersweet. It's sad to bid the
endless sunny skies, the long days, the trips down to
the creek with the kids. It's hard to say goodbye
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to that. But it's also exciting to welcome all the
splendor fall has to offer and new music that is
coming our way. When Canadian singer songwriter Sarah McLaughlin came
upon the music scene, her voice it's haunting, it's soulful,
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it's spellbinding, it's mesmerizing, it's beautiful. We've loved her voice
for over three decades. Her songs like Sweet Surrender, Ada,
Building a Mystery and I Will Remember You have been
the backdrop to so many events, so many milestones in
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our lives, so many calls I've taken over the years,
hearing just one or two notes of her songs brings
back a flood of memories, now better broken out on
September nineteenth, from this three time Grammy winner offers a
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new selection of songs that speak an uncomprom but radically
illuminating truth about the state of the human condition. It's
our first full album of new material in eleven years.
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Welcome to my studio, a friend I have not seen
in many years. Last time I saw you, you were
a flaming red ad.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That was a while ago.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, that was a minute ago, Sarah. But how
is it you look younger than you looked like ten
fifteen years ago when you were in my studio last.
You look fabulous. Thank you healthy, living healthy, You're glowing.
You are glowing.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Oh thanks well, I'm pretty happy. I'm really happy. I
love my new record. I'm super proud of it. There's
so many great things in my life right now. I
actually just dropped my daughter at university and unpacked her
room yesterday, so that's super emotional.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But she's so ready to launch. I'm really happy for her.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I remember when your daughters were like hanging on to
your knees. How is it I'm here up at college.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I know she's eighteen.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
My eldest is twenty three and she's living full time
on her own Victoria on Vancouver Island. And yeah, my
little one's off to university. So it's I'm an empty nesters.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It's crazy. I don't know how it happened.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm looking at all these moms with their like you know,
like you said, with little kids, and I'm like, oh,
she just enjoy every moment.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So when when we saw each other last, my daughter blessing,
I think she's a year younger than your oldest, and
she is now off living her best life, traveling all
she wants to do. Amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, wow, that's amazing. Good for her.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, I'm so proud of her, so proud of her,
and so yours off at college. What is she studying?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
She's doing communications and dance. Really, yeah, her her passion
is dance. That's how she expresses herself.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That is very cool, very cool. We congratulations you didn't
get the baby book out? Did you? The all the
baby pictures?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I might have been scrolling.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I mean most of her pictures because she was born
in two thousand and seven, are actually on my phone.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
So there there have been. There have been some tearful moments.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, don't
do it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's a slippery slope.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It is a very slippery slope. It's a good thing
you have this album project to focus on and talking
about it, and I'm guessing we're gonna see you out performing,
so we'll talk about how to how to get those
dates in those schedules. But this is your first album,
Sarah in how many years?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Uh? Well, my first album of original material in eleven years,
so a good chunk of change for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But you decided now is the time, and oh thank
goodness you did, because now is the time we need
that little ding voice of yours.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh thank you?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Well, yeah, I took you know, everybody says why eleven
years or why did you wait till now? And so
I basically wait till now because I needed to amass
enough a number of you know, good songs, and I
was just really busy and distracted with teenagers and being
a dance mom and being one of the principal fundraisers
from my free music schools. So I was wearing a
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lot of hats and just kind of got distracted. But
finally getting enough material and then figuring out who was
going to get to work with me on it, sort
that was the big hurdle. And then once I landed
on Tony Berg and Will McCallin as a producers, it
just it happened really quickly, and I'm just so thrilled
with the outcome.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't know if if you were distracted or if
you were amassing life experiences it's all going to sing about,
because these songs all have really powerful messages. How could
you have shared these things had you not experienced all that?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's true, and I think you know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
One of the other bits about it taking a long
time was I had actually written almost an entire album
about a particular rather hideous and long breakup, and you know,
having the distance of five or six years after the fact,
you're like, I went to revisit those songs, I'm like,
I don't want to give this that kind of energy.
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I'm so over that and I just want to move forward.
But unfortunately that meant Okay, now I need to write
a bunch of more a bunch of new songs, and
I am very slow writing. I'm not prolific by any
stretch of the imagination, so it took me a while.
But the cool thing is, once I got into the
studio and started recording the songs, I did have that
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creativity kind of just really opened things up. And because
I was so immersed in it, I was able to
write a few more and finish the ones that were
unfinished quite quickly.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That is beautiful, So that that creative energy birth more creativity.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Totally, it was an incredibly inspiring to be in. Tony
and Will are both musical geniuses. They're so creative, they're
so innovative, they're so fun and every musician that they
brought in just provided this amazing color to the tapestry.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So it was a really fun process.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
So before these two producers that you just mentioned, you
had worked with the same producer for how many years.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Pierre Maushaw.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I worked with him for thirty plus years, and I
have to say it was a bit like I thought,
I felt like cheating a little bit because we're just
we're so close and we've done so many projects together.
But I just thought, and this is I've changed since
changed my tune. But when I was putting this, thinking
about putting this record out or producing the record, I
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thought this might be my last record. So I kind
of owe it to myself to stretch and to try
and step out of my comfort zone and try something new.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
So that was the idea, and I'm so happy I did.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I mean, I love Pierre, I love the work that
we did together, but it was wonderful to have some
new blood and some new energy and a different kind
of energy.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Well it might be a different kind of energy, but
it's the same haunting voice that your voice wraps around
me like a scarf and then just drags me in
like it's like whiplash. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And then and so there's this lilting, like seductive, like
a cool stream, and it looks so inviting and you
jump in and it's like Bam, your senses are are
smacked with how cold ice water is off the mountain.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I love that description.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
That's what I felt like. I started listening to the
first cut, Better Broken, the Tidal Cut, and oh my gosh,
I had to look lyrics up after I listened to
it the first time and went, man, does that describe
a situation in my life? That's been life for a
long long time? Better to just leave that polished rock
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right there, don't pick.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
It up, don't pick it do not pick it up again.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I mean, I think we all have those kind of
stories where we stayed too long in a situation, or
there's that like that that Achilles heel where you're just like,
you keep going back to scratch that itch and you
know you shouldn't and you know that ultimately you're stronger
and better off when you leave that thing alone and
you pick yourself up and you recognize that you can
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build your own resiliency and you have the power to
become whole again on your own. And that is I
think that that sense of resiliency and self reliance yet
remaining soft in that I think is a real important
theme for me in my life.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And I think that's very It's kind of all.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Over the record as well, like staying open, staying soft,
but also having that you know, that exterior of like
I know my own worth, I know what I want,
what I don't want in my life. And at this
age in particular, you're like, Okay, I'm fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
How many good years.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Do I have left? And how do I want to
spend them? And who do I want to spend them with?
And I certainly don't want to be spending them with
anybody who's taking my energy. You know, It's like the
relationships have to be positive and meaningful.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
At this point.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm just not interested in anything that isn't healthy.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Basically, that is the message I try to preach every
night on my show, but it's so hard to apply
to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It really is hard to apply. Yeah, and some days
are better than others. And I mean, we are all
a work in progress.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
How we move through the world, how we show up
every day. You know, days we can live in our
wise mind, and other days we're just in this visceral,
pissed off body that is at times betraying us and
challenging us in new ways.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know, menopause is a crazy wild beast.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And yeah, it's just you know, for me, it's about
recognizing all the privilege and the joy and the hardship
and going, Okay, I got through that, and I'm in
this amazing place and it's like the shoe could drop
at any moment, but I'm just going to.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Enjoy this moment.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It will drop, and it will exactly, it will.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So what we need to do is enjoy every moment
that our legs are working, that our lungs are feeling strong,
and our mind is feeling fresh, and try not to
get too overwhelmed by the things that we cannot change
and try and you know, just work on the things
that we have control over, which are actually very few.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So let's talk about some of the other songs. Because
better Broken is I think it should become an anthem
for those of us that have a tendency to want
to go back and fix it. You know, there's so
many of us that think, if I had just said this,
if I had just done that, if I had just
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been more patient, if I had just tried this, if
I had just you know, for me, it was if
I had just found recovery before you know, I ended
that if I had just gone to these meetings and
learned about my codependency, if I had.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Just forgiveness is a really important piece, you know, and
and letting go, as I said, of the things that
you know, regret is such a useless thing.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
It is so useful.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Cannot change what has already happened. All you can do
is look at the future.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
What's what you're doing today and how you're going to
be doing things tomorrow, and choose to live a certain way.
And like I said, you know, that's easier to do
when you're in your wise mind and feeling solid and
secure and that you have a foundation of love and
self worth. And you know, there's so many things that
have to line up to be in that state and
to stay in that state, and we are constantly getting
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besieged with fear and insecurities and negative information and division.
I mean, the world's crazy right now. So I mean,
this is this is why music is such a catharsis
for me, and such a gift to be able to
sink into all those challenges. And I don't come up
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with any great answers, but for me, it's sort of
a way to flow through it where it's not so
challenging and disorienting all the time. It's like, for me,
music is medicine. It always has been, and I mean
making this record has been incredibly therapeutic for me. And
I mean I hope that other people here it and
get something out of it that is kind of like
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soothing or you know.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I just hope it helps people. I hope it heals
people in.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Some small way and or helps him feel a bit
more connected.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I think we need to feel connected right now. For me,
my my biggest frustration to see people purposefully bringing about
division and purposefully causing division, and purposefully writing headlines, writing stories,
choosing to cover stories with a slant that is obviously
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meant to bring about division. Stop buying into the deviceive
narrative and understand, man, we gotta hang on to each other.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
To figure out a way through together.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
We do. Yeah, I don't know what the answer is.
I would say music is one of the answers.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I would say music is a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, the arts, the arts in general are important.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I mean, it's the kind of one of the few
places left where we can, you know, have that kind
of really honest discourse and.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You know, and talk about this stuff. But I just think, you.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Know, we all need to try and stay open and
curious about each other even when we don't agree with each.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Other, and that that, I think is the most challenging thing.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Is so easy just to go, well, I don't agree
with you, and I hate you, and it's not that simple.
You know, we're all complex creatures and we all kind
of want, but we all kind of want the same things.
You know, we want what most of us do, I think,
you know, to be able to have a healthy family,
to take care of our kids, to have a least
safe place to live, like, they're kind of simple things.
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But when you have people who just want everything and
it just becomes all about control and they have so
much power, it's it's hard to fight that. But why
I really want to keep making music too, is that
I do think that it is a connector and a
bit of an equalizer in the sense that, you know,
a bunch of people can come to the shows who
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may have very different opinions about certain things, but it's
kind of that a few moments where you can all
just forget about that and be reminded of your common
humanity and love.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's love when you sing Sarah, it's love's love comes
out in your voice and in your music. Can we
talk about the lyrics to rise.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yes, speaking of a hopeful lament.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yes, it's so pretty, it's so.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Hopeful, thank you, And yeah, you know, Luke du Sat
and I wrote the bulk of that coming out of COVID,
and we had had this hopeful idea that COVID would
bring us together there it's just.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Kind of, you know, it kind of did the opposite.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
But and with you know, the news headlines and just
everything so negative, it's just like, Okay, let's let's kind
of kind of think about what a more utopian version
of this, if we could just get our shit together
and not be so divisive and so angry, and.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So yeah, it's a hopeful event.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
We you know, kind of looking at the world, looking
at you know, there's a single relationship or the relationship
of the world, how we how we need to lean
on each other and because we ultimately we do need
each other.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
We do we need each other so desperately. And I
was not raised a world traveler. My family didn't really
leave our community very much. It was a very a
sweet community, very tight knit community. I'm not and I'm
not complaining at all, but as an adult, I got
to be a bit more of a world traveler, not
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a lot, but to realize that that my reality is
so tiny in the greater scheme of things. My reality,
what I perceive to be life is just it's like
a grain of sand on a big beach. You know
that there's so many other ways to live and foods
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to eat, and songs to listen to, and ways to dress,
and ways to connect and ways to experience.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, and why can't I just yeah, I wish we
could kind of let all that be and you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Know, and respect it and rejoice.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
And respect in our differences because they're unique and interesting,
as opposed to just trying to tear everybody down who
doesn't look or act exactly the same as one way,
which again we all know intellectually is just basically for
a financial gain.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Ultimately, sadly, sadly, your music and especially this album, brought
to my mind how important that is to respect and
understand and uplift and support.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of how I live my life,
you know, as a woman who has a platform and privilege,
as a human who has platform and privilege. For me,
I view that as an opportunity to lift up other
people and help other people along who are less fortunate
than me, who have had less opportunities in me. And
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that's just kind of I learned about the value and
the importance of that in my early twenties, and it's
just the power of that grew as my platform and
my understanding of it grew, and it's something that I think.
It's a huge part of my life to be of
service and to give of myself and to try and
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create positive change in the world.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And you've done that in a multitude of ways, especially
through your school. Tell us a little bit about your
music school.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, yeah, so look at the bag.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I wish people could see you. I mean they're listening
to the audio, they don't get to see the visual.
The minute I mentioned your music school, your face took
on the same countenance as when I mentioned your daughters.
You lit up like a Christmas tree, just so much joy.
The joy that washed over your face the second I
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mentioned it. That's clearly your happy place. It is.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I mean, it's just such a massive source of pride
and joy for me.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We're twenty four years in we have almost.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Twelve hundred students a year now and it has been
for the last twenty four years completely free and it
always will be. And I just love that I get
to be part of this amazing school. It's all about
high quality music education and mentorship, creating a safe space
for the children and the youth to come and figure
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out who they are kind of through music and do
that in a place where they are seeing heard in value.
They have a ton of agency in the program, like
they get to come in at the beginning and kind
of essentially develop the curriculum every year with the teachers.
It's like eight to seven eight kids per class per teacher,
and it's based on their interests and what they're keen
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on learning and their diverse learning the way they learn too,
which is often different. We have lots of kids with
you know, ADHD, depression, anxiety, feed alcohol syndrome, you name it.
We have a ton of challenges these days with learning
and engagement, and I think we've done an incredible job
to create a really, as I said, a safe space
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where these kids can come in and just completely be
themselves and be cherished and valued for themselves. And I
think creating that opportunity where kids can be open and
vulnerable with each other, with their peers and see that
that's okay and that's actually encouraged, and you can create
something out of that.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You can make music together and.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
You create, you create a better understanding of yourself and
of your peers, of the world around you, and a
sense of confidence and self worth that I can do this,
I have value, I have something to say, and people
actually are interested in hearing what I have to say.
I think those pieces are so important in a young
person's developing mind these days, especially that sense of community
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and being part of something bigger than yourself. And for me,
when I was growing up making music, it was always
an individual thing. I was taking private music lessons, and
I only when I was seventeen I joined a band
and just started to realize how much fun it is
to make music with other people. And so we really
encourage that as well early on in the process. So
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I just, you know, for me, seeing kids come in
with so many, you know, whether it's social emotional challenges
like being really shy or withdrawn, and then at the
end of the year watching them get up on stage
and perform a song that they've written and that takes
a lot of guts.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And how many kids do you have now in the program?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
We have almost twelve hundred students.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Sarah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Now we've got three schools. We're in Vancouver, British.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Columbia, in New Westminster at Douglas College and in Edmonton,
Alberta at McEwan University.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And the kids come from school. It's an after school program, right,
It is.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
An after school program.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Although we have all the alternative high schools, a lot
of them come to us during the day and they
have an accredited course that they can take through us.
And we also have like six months to two year
old parents and taughts kind of thing, a little course
like a music fundamentals music makers a little class which
is really cute. And also to adult senior choirs with
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ukulelely choirs.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
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Speaker 2 (27:17):
It was I started that when I was four years old.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, you told me that, and I was so blown away.
And I love the ukulele. I love when I hear people,
you know, like using it as something else. It's kind
of like the recorder, you know, when you get into
school in the first instrument they give you as the recorder.
I think the first instrument a lot of people buy
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their kids is a ukulele, just because of the size
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And yeah, and it's.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Quite simple too. But I mean, you know the difference
between you recorder and a ukuleles. You know, you can
accompany yourself and sing and actually create, you know, create
a whole song, and recorders a little more limits.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
A little limited there. I'm just saying that they're kind
of an intro on range, the on ramp for learning
and instrument. But I love, love, love hearing people play
the ukulele.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's a beautiful instrument. Yeah, and it's really it's it's
sweet and it's happy.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
But it's happy, it's nostalgic, it's gentle. Yeah, it's just
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Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, I love it.
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Well, thank you for all the work you're doing with kids.
I wish we could replicate that program around the world.
Music is such a universal language and such a healing
way to express. Music is the language of angels and
music is such a sweet way to connect. And if
every if every kid had that to every kid that
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loves music wants to explore, that had the opportunity like
you're giving, we could we could solve all the problems
of the world.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Sah, we could solve a lot of problems. That's true.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I love that you're doing your part. I love that
you're putting your energy into changing lives because that changes lives.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, I mean it's changed, It's changed their lives, has
changed my life in a beautiful, profound way, like I can.
I just I have such a sense of purpose and
joy every time I walk through the doors and see
what we're doing and see the lives that we're changing.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
It's monumental.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And it's ripples on a pond. When you've got a
child that's struggling with ADHD or had you know, autistic
traits and they feel like they're not seen or like
they have no value, and then you empower them with
music and they go home. That changes their home environment.
It's ripples on a pond. It changes, there's truel environment,
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it changes. It impacts everybody that they're connected to.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, I mean our Grade twelve graduation rate, we're ninety
nine percent graduation, which is higher than baci's average.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Oh, way higher, I would guess.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, And I mean that's that's you know, one hundred
percent of them graduate from our program, but almost all
of them graduated high school, so it does help them stay.
I mean, that's one of our sort of gentle requirements
is that they stay in school. On occasion that isn't
the case because sometimes school is not the safe space.
So you know, there have been exceptions to that rule.
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We try and encourage them to stay in high school
and graduate.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
So, Sarah McLaughlin, how can we come and see you?
How can we get this new music? How can we
see you perform it? How can we follow you and
stay in touch?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Well, the new album is called That Are Broken, and
it is coming out September nineteenth of this year. You
can certainly go to Sarah McLaughlin dot com to find
out all things about that.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And I am doing a.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Fumbing towards exety thirtieth anniversary tour a year later in
Canada this early fall, because I blew my voice out
last year and couldn't sing for about a year.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
But it's back, it's good. And then I'm hopefully going.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
To be doing some shows in late November in the
States and then hopefully a summer tour next year.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And we can find all those dates at Sarahmuglocklin dot com.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Everything We'll live at Sarah macglocklan dot com.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yes, perfect, perfect, Well, thank you for taking the time. Please,
let's not let another ten to fifteen years go before
we get to spend time together again.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I cannot believe it's been that long. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, it's been a minute. Well, nice to see you,
Nice to see you. God, bless you, Thank you, right on.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Take care.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Before Better Broken was finished, Sarah thought it might be
her last album, That's what she was thinking, but she
says the process rekindled her love for making music, making records,
and now she can't wait to start the next one.
We can't wait for it either. Sarah recognizes, like all
artists do, that we all need something to lift us up,
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to lift us up out of our challenges and all
the negative things we're dealing with every single day. Music
has always done that for her, and she shares it
with us in the hopes that it can help us
to I hope that this record provides people with some
relief and release, she says, but in the end, I
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just want them to take whatever they need from it
and make the songs a part of their own story.
Better Broken has eleven tracks in all and will be
available September nineteenth. You can go to Sarah McGlaughlin dot
com s A r A H mc lach l a
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n Sarah McLaughlin dot com to pre order the album,
watch the video for the title track, pick up some
much merchandise, as well as catch up on all that
Sarah has going on, like her upcoming tour dates. The
album will be available through Amazon and Target. I hope
you've made some sweet memories this summer and you were
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able to involve yourself in some outdoor activities or hobbies
that help to calm your soul and shine a spotlight
on all that is good, all that is right with
the world. It's so important to do that so we
can tackle all the task of life, and we're energized
to involve ourselves and the issues that speak to us,
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the lives that matter to us. After running after my
kids and my grandkids all summer, I'm ready. I'm so
ready to see them off to school and to be
able to focus for more than a couple of seconds
without hearing Mom, Mom, Grandma, nynae ny nay every few minutes.
I will miss the sound of their laughter around the house.
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I will but I'll get used to it while they're
in school. Thanks for hanging out with Sarah McLaughlin and
me today. Join me on the air each and every
evening too. Let's keep each other company and do me
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to slow down and love someone
Hello, my friend. Welcome, Welcome to love someone with Delilah.
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hotter than blazes in some areas outside, this beloved season
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I can smell autumn on the breeze. The changes of
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back a flood of memories, now better broken out on
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illuminating truth about the state of the human condition. It's
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Welcome to my studio, a friend I have not seen
in many years. Last time I saw you, you were
a flaming red ad.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That was a while ago.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, that was a minute ago, Sarah. But how
is it you look younger than you looked like ten
fifteen years ago when you were in my studio last.
You look fabulous. Thank you healthy, living healthy, You're glowing.
You are glowing.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Oh thanks well, I'm pretty happy. I'm really happy. I
love my new record. I'm super proud of it. There's
so many great things in my life right now. I
actually just dropped my daughter at university and unpacked her
room yesterday, so that's super emotional.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But she's so ready to launch. I'm really happy for her.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I remember when your daughters were like hanging on to
your knees. How is it I'm here up at college.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I know she's eighteen.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
My eldest is twenty three and she's living full time
on her own Victoria on Vancouver Island. And yeah, my
little one's off to university. So it's I'm an empty nesters.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It's crazy. I don't know how it happened.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm looking at all these moms with their like you know,
like you said, with little kids, and I'm like, oh,
she just enjoy every moment.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So when when we saw each other last, my daughter blessing,
I think she's a year younger than your oldest, and
she is now off living her best life, traveling all
she wants to do. Amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, wow, that's amazing. Good for her.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, I'm so proud of her, so proud of her,
and so yours off at college. What is she studying?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
She's doing communications and dance. Really, yeah, her her passion
is dance. That's how she expresses herself.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That is very cool, very cool. We congratulations you didn't
get the baby book out? Did you? The all the
baby pictures?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I might have been scrolling.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I mean most of her pictures because she was born
in two thousand and seven, are actually on my phone.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
So there there have been. There have been some tearful moments.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, don't
do it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's a slippery slope.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It is a very slippery slope. It's a good thing
you have this album project to focus on and talking
about it, and I'm guessing we're gonna see you out performing,
so we'll talk about how to how to get those
dates in those schedules. But this is your first album,
Sarah in how many years?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Uh? Well, my first album of original material in eleven years,
so a good chunk of change for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But you decided now is the time, and oh thank
goodness you did, because now is the time we need
that little ding voice of yours.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh thank you?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Well, yeah, I took you know, everybody says why eleven
years or why did you wait till now? And so
I basically wait till now because I needed to amass
enough a number of you know, good songs, and I
was just really busy and distracted with teenagers and being
a dance mom and being one of the principal fundraisers
from my free music schools. So I was wearing a
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lot of hats and just kind of got distracted. But
finally getting enough material and then figuring out who was
going to get to work with me on it, sort
that was the big hurdle. And then once I landed
on Tony Berg and Will McCallin as a producers, it
just it happened really quickly, and I'm just so thrilled
with the outcome.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't know if if you were distracted or if
you were amassing life experiences it's all going to sing about,
because these songs all have really powerful messages. How could
you have shared these things had you not experienced all that?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's true, and I think you know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
One of the other bits about it taking a long
time was I had actually written almost an entire album
about a particular rather hideous and long breakup, and you know,
having the distance of five or six years after the fact,
you're like, I went to revisit those songs, I'm like,
I don't want to give this that kind of energy.
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I'm so over that and I just want to move forward.
But unfortunately that meant Okay, now I need to write
a bunch of more a bunch of new songs, and
I am very slow writing. I'm not prolific by any
stretch of the imagination, so it took me a while.
But the cool thing is, once I got into the
studio and started recording the songs, I did have that
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creativity kind of just really opened things up. And because
I was so immersed in it, I was able to
write a few more and finish the ones that were
unfinished quite quickly.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That is beautiful, So that that creative energy birth more creativity.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Totally, it was an incredibly inspiring to be in. Tony
and Will are both musical geniuses. They're so creative, they're
so innovative, they're so fun and every musician that they
brought in just provided this amazing color to the tapestry.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So it was a really fun process.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
So before these two producers that you just mentioned, you
had worked with the same producer for how many years.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Pierre Maushaw.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I worked with him for thirty plus years, and I
have to say it was a bit like I thought,
I felt like cheating a little bit because we're just
we're so close and we've done so many projects together.
But I just thought, and this is I've changed since
changed my tune. But when I was putting this, thinking
about putting this record out or producing the record, I
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thought this might be my last record. So I kind
of owe it to myself to stretch and to try
and step out of my comfort zone and try something new.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
So that was the idea, and I'm so happy I did.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I mean, I love Pierre, I love the work that
we did together, but it was wonderful to have some
new blood and some new energy and a different kind
of energy.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Well it might be a different kind of energy, but
it's the same haunting voice that your voice wraps around
me like a scarf and then just drags me in
like it's like whiplash. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And then and so there's this lilting, like seductive, like
a cool stream, and it looks so inviting and you
jump in and it's like Bam, your senses are are
smacked with how cold ice water is off the mountain.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I love that description.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
That's what I felt like. I started listening to the
first cut, Better Broken, the Tidal Cut, and oh my gosh,
I had to look lyrics up after I listened to
it the first time and went, man, does that describe
a situation in my life? That's been life for a
long long time? Better to just leave that polished rock
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right there, don't pick.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
It up, don't pick it do not pick it up again.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I mean, I think we all have those kind of
stories where we stayed too long in a situation, or
there's that like that that Achilles heel where you're just like,
you keep going back to scratch that itch and you
know you shouldn't and you know that ultimately you're stronger
and better off when you leave that thing alone and
you pick yourself up and you recognize that you can
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build your own resiliency and you have the power to
become whole again on your own. And that is I
think that that sense of resiliency and self reliance yet
remaining soft in that I think is a real important
theme for me in my life.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And I think that's very It's kind of all.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Over the record as well, like staying open, staying soft,
but also having that you know, that exterior of like
I know my own worth, I know what I want,
what I don't want in my life. And at this
age in particular, you're like, Okay, I'm fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
How many good years.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Do I have left? And how do I want to
spend them? And who do I want to spend them with?
And I certainly don't want to be spending them with
anybody who's taking my energy. You know, It's like the
relationships have to be positive and meaningful.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
At this point.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I'm just not interested in anything that isn't healthy.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Basically, that is the message I try to preach every
night on my show, but it's so hard to apply
to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It really is hard to apply. Yeah, and some days
are better than others. And I mean, we are all
a work in progress.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
How we move through the world, how we show up
every day. You know, days we can live in our
wise mind, and other days we're just in this visceral,
pissed off body that is at times betraying us and
challenging us in new ways.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know, menopause is a crazy wild beast.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And yeah, it's just you know, for me, it's about
recognizing all the privilege and the joy and the hardship
and going, Okay, I got through that, and I'm in
this amazing place and it's like the shoe could drop
at any moment, but I'm just going to.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Enjoy this moment.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It will drop, and it will exactly, it will.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So what we need to do is enjoy every moment
that our legs are working, that our lungs are feeling strong,
and our mind is feeling fresh, and try not to
get too overwhelmed by the things that we cannot change
and try and you know, just work on the things
that we have control over, which are actually very few.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So let's talk about some of the other songs. Because
better Broken is I think it should become an anthem
for those of us that have a tendency to want
to go back and fix it. You know, there's so
many of us that think, if I had just said this,
if I had just done that, if I had just
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been more patient, if I had just tried this, if
I had just you know, for me, it was if
I had just found recovery before you know, I ended
that if I had just gone to these meetings and
learned about my codependency, if I had.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Just forgiveness is a really important piece, you know, and
and letting go, as I said, of the things that
you know, regret is such a useless thing.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
It is so useful.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Cannot change what has already happened. All you can do
is look at the future.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
What's what you're doing today and how you're going to
be doing things tomorrow, and choose to live a certain way.
And like I said, you know, that's easier to do
when you're in your wise mind and feeling solid and
secure and that you have a foundation of love and
self worth. And you know, there's so many things that
have to line up to be in that state and
to stay in that state, and we are constantly getting
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besieged with fear and insecurities and negative information and division.
I mean, the world's crazy right now. So I mean,
this is this is why music is such a catharsis
for me, and such a gift to be able to
sink into all those challenges. And I don't come up
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with any great answers, but for me, it's sort of
a way to flow through it where it's not so
challenging and disorienting all the time. It's like, for me,
music is medicine. It always has been, and I mean
making this record has been incredibly therapeutic for me. And
I mean I hope that other people here it and
get something out of it that is kind of like
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soothing or you know.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I just hope it helps people. I hope it heals
people in.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Some small way and or helps him feel a bit
more connected.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I think we need to feel connected right now. For me,
my my biggest frustration to see people purposefully bringing about
division and purposefully causing division, and purposefully writing headlines, writing stories,
choosing to cover stories with a slant that is obviously
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meant to bring about division. Stop buying into the deviceive
narrative and understand, man, we gotta hang on to each other.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
To figure out a way through together.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
We do. Yeah, I don't know what the answer is.
I would say music is one of the answers.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I would say music is a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, the arts, the arts in general are important.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I mean, it's the kind of one of the few
places left where we can, you know, have that kind
of really honest discourse and.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You know, and talk about this stuff. But I just think, you.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Know, we all need to try and stay open and
curious about each other even when we don't agree with each.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Other, and that that, I think is the most challenging thing.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Is so easy just to go, well, I don't agree
with you, and I hate you, and it's not that simple.
You know, we're all complex creatures and we all kind
of want, but we all kind of want the same things.
You know, we want what most of us do, I think,
you know, to be able to have a healthy family,
to take care of our kids, to have a least
safe place to live, like, they're kind of simple things.
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But when you have people who just want everything and
it just becomes all about control and they have so
much power, it's it's hard to fight that. But why
I really want to keep making music too, is that
I do think that it is a connector and a
bit of an equalizer in the sense that, you know,
a bunch of people can come to the shows who
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may have very different opinions about certain things, but it's
kind of that a few moments where you can all
just forget about that and be reminded of your common
humanity and love.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's love when you sing Sarah, it's love's love comes
out in your voice and in your music. Can we
talk about the lyrics to rise.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yes, speaking of a hopeful lament.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yes, it's so pretty, it's so.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Hopeful, thank you, And yeah, you know, Luke du Sat
and I wrote the bulk of that coming out of COVID,
and we had had this hopeful idea that COVID would
bring us together there it's just.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Kind of, you know, it kind of did the opposite.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
But and with you know, the news headlines and just
everything so negative, it's just like, Okay, let's let's kind
of kind of think about what a more utopian version
of this, if we could just get our shit together
and not be so divisive and so angry, and.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So yeah, it's a hopeful event.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
We you know, kind of looking at the world, looking
at you know, there's a single relationship or the relationship
of the world, how we how we need to lean
on each other and because we ultimately we do need
each other.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
We do we need each other so desperately. And I
was not raised a world traveler. My family didn't really
leave our community very much. It was a very a
sweet community, very tight knit community. I'm not and I'm
not complaining at all, but as an adult, I got
to be a bit more of a world traveler, not
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a lot, but to realize that that my reality is
so tiny in the greater scheme of things. My reality,
what I perceive to be life is just it's like
a grain of sand on a big beach. You know
that there's so many other ways to live and foods
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to eat, and songs to listen to, and ways to dress,
and ways to connect and ways to experience.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, and why can't I just yeah, I wish we
could kind of let all that be and you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Know, and respect it and rejoice.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
And respect in our differences because they're unique and interesting,
as opposed to just trying to tear everybody down who
doesn't look or act exactly the same as one way,
which again we all know intellectually is just basically for
a financial gain.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Ultimately, sadly, sadly, your music and especially this album, brought
to my mind how important that is to respect and
understand and uplift and support.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of how I live my life,
you know, as a woman who has a platform and privilege,
as a human who has platform and privilege. For me,
I view that as an opportunity to lift up other
people and help other people along who are less fortunate
than me, who have had less opportunities in me. And
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that's just kind of I learned about the value and
the importance of that in my early twenties, and it's
just the power of that grew as my platform and
my understanding of it grew, and it's something that I think.
It's a huge part of my life to be of
service and to give of myself and to try and
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create positive change in the world.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And you've done that in a multitude of ways, especially
through your school. Tell us a little bit about your
music school.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, yeah, so look at the bag.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I wish people could see you. I mean they're listening
to the audio, they don't get to see the visual.
The minute I mentioned your music school, your face took
on the same countenance as when I mentioned your daughters.
You lit up like a Christmas tree, just so much joy.
The joy that washed over your face the second I
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mentioned it. That's clearly your happy place. It is.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I mean, it's just such a massive source of pride
and joy for me.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We're twenty four years in we have almost.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Twelve hundred students a year now and it has been
for the last twenty four years completely free and it
always will be. And I just love that I get
to be part of this amazing school. It's all about
high quality music education and mentorship, creating a safe space
for the children and the youth to come and figure
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out who they are kind of through music and do
that in a place where they are seeing heard in value.
They have a ton of agency in the program, like
they get to come in at the beginning and kind
of essentially develop the curriculum every year with the teachers.
It's like eight to seven eight kids per class per teacher,
and it's based on their interests and what they're keen
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on learning and their diverse learning the way they learn too,
which is often different. We have lots of kids with
you know, ADHD, depression, anxiety, feed alcohol syndrome, you name it.
We have a ton of challenges these days with learning
and engagement, and I think we've done an incredible job
to create a really, as I said, a safe space
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where these kids can come in and just completely be
themselves and be cherished and valued for themselves. And I
think creating that opportunity where kids can be open and
vulnerable with each other, with their peers and see that
that's okay and that's actually encouraged, and you can create
something out of that.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You can make music together and.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
You create, you create a better understanding of yourself and
of your peers, of the world around you, and a
sense of confidence and self worth that I can do this,
I have value, I have something to say, and people
actually are interested in hearing what I have to say.
I think those pieces are so important in a young
person's developing mind these days, especially that sense of community
(24:21):
and being part of something bigger than yourself. And for me,
when I was growing up making music, it was always
an individual thing. I was taking private music lessons, and
I only when I was seventeen I joined a band
and just started to realize how much fun it is
to make music with other people. And so we really
encourage that as well early on in the process. So
(24:42):
I just, you know, for me, seeing kids come in
with so many, you know, whether it's social emotional challenges
like being really shy or withdrawn, and then at the
end of the year watching them get up on stage
and perform a song that they've written and that takes
a lot of guts.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
And how many kids do you have now in the program?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
We have almost twelve hundred students.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Sarah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Now we've got three schools. We're in Vancouver, British.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Columbia, in New Westminster at Douglas College and in Edmonton,
Alberta at McEwan University.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And the kids come from school. It's an after school program, right,
It is.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
An after school program.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Although we have all the alternative high schools, a lot
of them come to us during the day and they
have an accredited course that they can take through us.
And we also have like six months to two year
old parents and taughts kind of thing, a little course
like a music fundamentals music makers a little class which
is really cute. And also to adult senior choirs with
(25:45):
ukulelely choirs.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
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That's Mercyships dot org. Ukulele was your first instrument. I
remember that from our first interview.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It was I started that when I was four years old.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, you told me that, and I was so blown away.
And I love the ukulele. I love when I hear people,
you know, like using it as something else. It's kind
of like the recorder, you know, when you get into
school in the first instrument they give you as the recorder.
I think the first instrument a lot of people buy
(27:40):
their kids is a ukulele, just because of the size
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And yeah, and it's.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Quite simple too. But I mean, you know the difference
between you recorder and a ukuleles. You know, you can
accompany yourself and sing and actually create, you know, create
a whole song, and recorders a little more limits.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
A little limited there. I'm just saying that they're kind
of an intro on range, the on ramp for learning
and instrument. But I love, love, love hearing people play
the ukulele.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's a beautiful instrument. Yeah, and it's really it's it's
sweet and it's happy.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
But it's happy, it's nostalgic, it's gentle. Yeah, it's just
innately kind of this warm, sweet thing that.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Well, thank you for all the work you're doing with kids.
I wish we could replicate that program around the world.
Music is such a universal language and such a healing
way to express. Music is the language of angels and
music is such a sweet way to connect. And if
every if every kid had that to every kid that
(28:49):
loves music wants to explore, that had the opportunity like
you're giving, we could we could solve all the problems
of the world.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Sah, we could solve a lot of problems. That's true.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I love that you're doing your part. I love that
you're putting your energy into changing lives because that changes lives.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, I mean it's changed, It's changed their lives, has
changed my life in a beautiful, profound way, like I can.
I just I have such a sense of purpose and
joy every time I walk through the doors and see
what we're doing and see the lives that we're changing.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
It's monumental.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And it's ripples on a pond. When you've got a
child that's struggling with ADHD or had you know, autistic
traits and they feel like they're not seen or like
they have no value, and then you empower them with
music and they go home. That changes their home environment.
It's ripples on a pond. It changes, there's truel environment,
(29:50):
it changes. It impacts everybody that they're connected to.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, I mean our Grade twelve graduation rate, we're ninety
nine percent graduation, which is higher than baci's average.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Oh, way higher, I would guess.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, And I mean that's that's you know, one hundred
percent of them graduate from our program, but almost all
of them graduated high school, so it does help them stay.
I mean, that's one of our sort of gentle requirements
is that they stay in school. On occasion that isn't
the case because sometimes school is not the safe space.
So you know, there have been exceptions to that rule.
(30:29):
We try and encourage them to stay in high school
and graduate.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
So, Sarah McLaughlin, how can we come and see you?
How can we get this new music? How can we
see you perform it? How can we follow you and
stay in touch?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Well, the new album is called That Are Broken, and
it is coming out September nineteenth of this year. You
can certainly go to Sarah McLaughlin dot com to find
out all things about that.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And I am doing a.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Fumbing towards exety thirtieth anniversary tour a year later in
Canada this early fall, because I blew my voice out
last year and couldn't sing for about a year.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
But it's back, it's good. And then I'm hopefully going.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
To be doing some shows in late November in the
States and then hopefully a summer tour next year.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And we can find all those dates at Sarahmuglocklin dot com.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Everything We'll live at Sarah macglocklan dot com.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yes, perfect, perfect, Well, thank you for taking the time. Please,
let's not let another ten to fifteen years go before
we get to spend time together again.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I cannot believe it's been that long. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, it's been a minute. Well, nice to see you,
Nice to see you. God, bless you, Thank you, right on.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Take care.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Before Better Broken was finished, Sarah thought it might be
her last album, That's what she was thinking, but she
says the process rekindled her love for making music, making records,
and now she can't wait to start the next one.
We can't wait for it either. Sarah recognizes, like all
artists do, that we all need something to lift us up,
(32:09):
to lift us up out of our challenges and all
the negative things we're dealing with every single day. Music
has always done that for her, and she shares it
with us in the hopes that it can help us
to I hope that this record provides people with some
relief and release, she says, but in the end, I
(32:29):
just want them to take whatever they need from it
and make the songs a part of their own story.
Better Broken has eleven tracks in all and will be
available September nineteenth. You can go to Sarah McGlaughlin dot
com s A r A H mc lach l a
(32:51):
n Sarah McLaughlin dot com to pre order the album,
watch the video for the title track, pick up some
much merchandise, as well as catch up on all that
Sarah has going on, like her upcoming tour dates. The
album will be available through Amazon and Target. I hope
you've made some sweet memories this summer and you were
(33:15):
able to involve yourself in some outdoor activities or hobbies
that help to calm your soul and shine a spotlight
on all that is good, all that is right with
the world. It's so important to do that so we
can tackle all the task of life, and we're energized
to involve ourselves and the issues that speak to us,
(33:37):
the lives that matter to us. After running after my
kids and my grandkids all summer, I'm ready. I'm so
ready to see them off to school and to be
able to focus for more than a couple of seconds
without hearing Mom, Mom, Grandma, nynae ny nay every few minutes.
I will miss the sound of their laughter around the house.
(34:00):
I will but I'll get used to it while they're
in school. Thanks for hanging out with Sarah McLaughlin and
me today. Join me on the air each and every
evening too. Let's keep each other company and do me
a favor. Take some time out of your busy schedule
to slow down and love someone
Host
Delilah
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