March 28, 2023 • 7 mins
The $200,000 Brisbane Catfish: Part 8 - Hearing The Catfisher's Real Voice
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Robin terial Kid on Brisbane's Kiss ninety seven three.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Interesting to go from a song about red flags into
our red flag story Annie, who has been catfished for
almost a year and has lost over two hundred thousand
dollars to this man. By the way, if you believe
you are a victim of it, you can report cercyber
dot GV dot au or you can call one three
(00:25):
hundred and two nine two three seven one. We spoke
to a detective Senior Constable Graham Edwards earlier who's written
a book on this, because.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
We're really desperately trying to help people and we know
that this is the tip of the iceberg and coming
up right now. If you recognize this guy's voice, oh yeah,
please contact police.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So Annie was able to record, now that she's in
a position of power, now that she knows what a
lying sacky is, she was able to record this conversation.
She kicks off trying to explain where she's been while
she's been talking to us, and also looking for any
sign of empathy from him.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, going, okay, happened to your lives?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I had to go to hospital because my mental health
wasn't great.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
What issue is that TVA you have been on it,
because if we had gone from that two weeks now.
Speaker 7 (01:16):
Yeah, I had to go back into hospital to get
my meds and everything sorted out so I can function
because I'm not functioning very well and I feel the
pressure that you're not going to be coming home, and
I am struggling to do all the payments and everything,
and it just got to me and I broke.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
How did you.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
Get impress from are you? We're just busy listening to
what people are telling you. That's what made you to.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Feel like that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No empathy, straight empathy, straight into turning it around and
saying it's other people talking, it's not me.
Speaker 8 (01:53):
Trying to isolate it by doing that real.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And keep in mind that she's been told he's Swedish
and has lived in Brisbane Redcliff.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yes, so the conversation continues. No empathy, but he's still
interested in the cash.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
So how much money do you need now to come on?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
And if I if I get five grande, now everything
is done, okay. I would never ask for any money.
What's that funny honey from the Minister of Justice.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
The money was not enough.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
The documents were a lot because I needed to update
everything and get our stamps. Okay, I told you that
the calculated and I'm when I said you are. When
I send you the documents for my contract, you're going
to see how much that is in SOLFD there the calculate.
They do it by percentage. They will use the calculat
(02:50):
and calculate. Her mother was involved and then has you
Okay when you send me, when I use it for
the world you sent it for, I don't use it
for something to because I'm an idiot.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
But it's fine.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
I know why you're feeling that this. You assisted me
with a lot of money. You're scared of losing your money,
which you're not going to lose.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
But it's all right.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Hear all the all the honeys and babies like he
never uses a name because he doesn't even remember, probably
because he's got so many people on the guy.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And maybe if that's you're concerned about someone who you
think is being catfish, get them to simply ask what's
my name?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Just quickly?
Speaker 8 (03:28):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And he goes on now pretending to be a good guy.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
But I said to you that I'm going to pay
you back your money.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
I told you that my mom didn't raise me to
play around with people's feelings or do it away with
your money. I'm going to pay you every cent you
assisted me with. Then you know that I was never
lying to you. So what is your christian in and
all of that, I'm not lying to you.
Speaker 8 (03:52):
Okay, So he has a mom, I wouldn't suspect.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Us.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But does that make you angry? Like this?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Listening to it, I just I'm so annoyed.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, the manipulation. And wait till you hear when Annie
actually starts pressing, because coming up in a moment, you'll
hear that she actually starts giving back a bit, but
looking for proof, saying well wise and this happening, asking
some real questions, and you hear him squirm and then
get angry.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
How the catfisher? Catfisher?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yes? Right after this?
Speaker 8 (04:19):
Did you put this in on purpose?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Cal Ruthie, We've been hearing the conversation between Annie who
was being catfished by this guy for a year and
for over two hundred thousand dollars, but finally admitted to
herself after our PI Dave did all the investigations that
he's not real and then was able to turn the
tables and start talking to him, knowing what she knows.
Speaker 9 (04:44):
And when you hear his voice, I know she thought
Swedish working in South Africa worked around the world. I
guess when you're in love, when you're lonely, you will
go with whatever the person tells you.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
Because this guy is he's between the subcontinent Africa. For
me at the moment, well.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
He's not shown any empathy about the fact she said
she was in hospitals, continued to ask for extra money,
and now Annie is deciding that she is going to
go him.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
Have a listen to this.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, she has to see him on camera.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
You don't have a camera on that computer.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
It's an old school textop. Have you forgotten the day
you asked me?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I know, but I think that they would be able
to get away. Seems such a big company not to
have basic technology. It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
He managers and officials might have, but when I'm using
doesn't have. Maybe this is understandable. Stop making a mountain
out of a molehill. Okay, well, you know she's very
wrong for you to speak like that.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It's it's it's not great.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
I think for my sanity and everything, we're just not
going to have to be in contact with each other anymore.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And I'm sick, all right when when.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'm out that he had what he said, he gave
me money because I needed to.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Sort my life out and my business.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
And then I'm going to pay you back what you
just made your points clear and you told me your feelings,
your heart and all.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Take care of yourself.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
But you know that, well you know the.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Problem to your health. It's fine having good nights. We'll talk.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's such a manipulated move.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Is because she said that was it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
There's no more cash?
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Yeah, what is the fish of the hawk? What's happened?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Well, I don't know where are You can tell that
he's I mean, you would think the way that he
asks that he's hoping that she's going to call him back.
You know that she's going to be sad or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
It's to get. And so we'll wait and see what goes.
And we need to talk to any about the moments
of all this. Ye as she was feeling when she
was doing it.
Speaker 8 (07:02):
I want to know is he gone?
Speaker 9 (07:03):
Because she's got the next Netflix series. I can't wait
eight weeks.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
I need to find out now.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I know it'll drop, it'll drop. Tomorrow it's involvement.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
Terry and Kids on Brisbane's Cheese ninety seventy three
Robin terial Kid on Brisbane's Kiss ninety seven three.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Interesting to go from a song about red flags into
our red flag story Annie, who has been catfished for
almost a year and has lost over two hundred thousand
dollars to this man. By the way, if you believe
you are a victim of it, you can report cercyber
dot GV dot au or you can call one three
(00:25):
hundred and two nine two three seven one. We spoke
to a detective Senior Constable Graham Edwards earlier who's written
a book on this, because.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
We're really desperately trying to help people and we know
that this is the tip of the iceberg and coming
up right now. If you recognize this guy's voice, oh yeah,
please contact police.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So Annie was able to record, now that she's in
a position of power, now that she knows what a
lying sacky is, she was able to record this conversation.
She kicks off trying to explain where she's been while
she's been talking to us, and also looking for any
sign of empathy from him.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, going, okay, happened to your lives?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I had to go to hospital because my mental health
wasn't great.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
What issue is that TVA you have been on it,
because if we had gone from that two weeks now.
Speaker 7 (01:16):
Yeah, I had to go back into hospital to get
my meds and everything sorted out so I can function
because I'm not functioning very well and I feel the
pressure that you're not going to be coming home, and
I am struggling to do all the payments and everything,
and it just got to me and I broke.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
How did you.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
Get impress from are you? We're just busy listening to
what people are telling you. That's what made you to.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Feel like that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No empathy, straight empathy, straight into turning it around and
saying it's other people talking, it's not me.
Speaker 8 (01:53):
Trying to isolate it by doing that real.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And keep in mind that she's been told he's Swedish
and has lived in Brisbane Redcliff.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yes, so the conversation continues. No empathy, but he's still
interested in the cash.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
So how much money do you need now to come on?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
And if I if I get five grande, now everything
is done, okay. I would never ask for any money.
What's that funny honey from the Minister of Justice.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
The money was not enough.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
The documents were a lot because I needed to update
everything and get our stamps. Okay, I told you that
the calculated and I'm when I said you are. When
I send you the documents for my contract, you're going
to see how much that is in SOLFD there the calculate.
They do it by percentage. They will use the calculat
(02:50):
and calculate. Her mother was involved and then has you
Okay when you send me, when I use it for
the world you sent it for, I don't use it
for something to because I'm an idiot.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
But it's fine.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
I know why you're feeling that this. You assisted me
with a lot of money. You're scared of losing your money,
which you're not going to lose.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
But it's all right.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Hear all the all the honeys and babies like he
never uses a name because he doesn't even remember, probably
because he's got so many people on the guy.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And maybe if that's you're concerned about someone who you
think is being catfish, get them to simply ask what's
my name?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Just quickly?
Speaker 8 (03:28):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And he goes on now pretending to be a good guy.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
But I said to you that I'm going to pay
you back your money.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
I told you that my mom didn't raise me to
play around with people's feelings or do it away with
your money. I'm going to pay you every cent you
assisted me with. Then you know that I was never
lying to you. So what is your christian in and
all of that, I'm not lying to you.
Speaker 8 (03:52):
Okay, So he has a mom, I wouldn't suspect.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Us.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But does that make you angry? Like this?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Listening to it, I just I'm so annoyed.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, the manipulation. And wait till you hear when Annie
actually starts pressing, because coming up in a moment, you'll
hear that she actually starts giving back a bit, but
looking for proof, saying well wise and this happening, asking
some real questions, and you hear him squirm and then
get angry.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
How the catfisher? Catfisher?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yes? Right after this?
Speaker 8 (04:19):
Did you put this in on purpose?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Cal Ruthie, We've been hearing the conversation between Annie who
was being catfished by this guy for a year and
for over two hundred thousand dollars, but finally admitted to
herself after our PI Dave did all the investigations that
he's not real and then was able to turn the
tables and start talking to him, knowing what she knows.
Speaker 9 (04:44):
And when you hear his voice, I know she thought
Swedish working in South Africa worked around the world. I
guess when you're in love, when you're lonely, you will
go with whatever the person tells you.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
Because this guy is he's between the subcontinent Africa. For
me at the moment, well.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
He's not shown any empathy about the fact she said
she was in hospitals, continued to ask for extra money,
and now Annie is deciding that she is going to
go him.
Speaker 8 (05:08):
Have a listen to this.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, she has to see him on camera.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
You don't have a camera on that computer.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
It's an old school textop. Have you forgotten the day
you asked me?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I know, but I think that they would be able
to get away. Seems such a big company not to
have basic technology. It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
He managers and officials might have, but when I'm using
doesn't have. Maybe this is understandable. Stop making a mountain
out of a molehill. Okay, well, you know she's very
wrong for you to speak like that.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It's it's it's not great.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
I think for my sanity and everything, we're just not
going to have to be in contact with each other anymore.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And I'm sick, all right when when.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'm out that he had what he said, he gave
me money because I needed to.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Sort my life out and my business.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
And then I'm going to pay you back what you
just made your points clear and you told me your feelings,
your heart and all.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Take care of yourself.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
But you know that, well you know the.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Problem to your health. It's fine having good nights. We'll talk.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's such a manipulated move.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Is because she said that was it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
There's no more cash?
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Yeah, what is the fish of the hawk? What's happened?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Well, I don't know where are You can tell that
he's I mean, you would think the way that he
asks that he's hoping that she's going to call him back.
You know that she's going to be sad or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
It's to get. And so we'll wait and see what goes.
And we need to talk to any about the moments
of all this. Ye as she was feeling when she
was doing it.
Speaker 8 (07:02):
I want to know is he gone?
Speaker 9 (07:03):
Because she's got the next Netflix series. I can't wait
eight weeks.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
I need to find out now.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I know it'll drop, it'll drop. Tomorrow it's involvement.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
Terry and Kids on Brisbane's Cheese ninety seventy three
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