July 19, 2023 • 6 mins
9yr Old Jack Relates To Kip's Childhood Struggles With Body Image
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're going back to school this month, so every Friday morning,
we're going out to different schools.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And I got us.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Thinking about what we were like back at school, and
for me, it sort of triggered the body confidence issues
I had as a young man, and that plagued me
from as long as I can remember.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You saw photos, yeah, and I remember.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Thinking in my head in that photo that I was fat,
and then seeing myself as.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
A kid, going no, you weren't.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And it was so in your head that you know
that you were the worst looking kid in school and
all those things, and me telling that story has certainly
got a huge response via email, and even people just
stopped me in the street yesterday. And I know you
got a couple of emails from which gets us to
our next caller.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hello, Rachel, good morning, How are you good? To thank
you now? I received a message from you yesterday which
I just thought was so lovely, and you said to me,
can you please tell Kip my nine year old son,
Jack has been listening to him talk about body image
and it's incredibly timing because there is stuff going on
(01:02):
for him. What stuff is going on? Rach?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, Well, I'm fortunate that I've got a child who
says his inside thought, it's first the first thing. And
the last few months he's been saying to me, Mom,
why am I so fat? You know, I'm fatter than
the other kids. Mum, I look in the mirror and
I'm ugly? Why am I so ugly? And he's the
cutest little kidd And so I've been having these conversations
(01:27):
with him, saying, look, even when I was a little girl,
I used to think, oh, because I'm ugly as a kid,
I'll be beautiful when I grow up. And I said,
it's quite normal. A lot of kids have these thoughts.
But he didn't believe me, you know, as no child
does from his mother. So listening to you kid saying
that he now is seeing at least oh, there are
(01:48):
other people that do think that. It hasn't changed the
way he's thinking about himself, but it's making him feel
I guess a little bit more comfortable that it's not
just me making that up that other you know, other
people peep like that. That's what I wanted to say,
thank you for, because that's giving him some previous re experience.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I'm so glad that that's, you know, the start
of help Rachel. That must break your heart as a parent.
I can't even fathom how when he says those words,
how that must feel for you.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, no, it is. It is devastating. It's like I say,
especially because he is so cute. But what it tells
me is, you know, if he's a kid who's got
lots of friends, doesn't get bullied, you know, play lots
of sport, and he's a nice looking kid. If he's
thinking that, then you know the other kids out there
who are less fortunate would maybe thinking even worse thoughts
(02:39):
of themselves. I think you're helping a heap of kids
out there, and you're an adult. I mean, like you say,
Robbie Williams, a lot of adults have the same issues.
So it's good to get the info thoughts out there
to show other people it's normal.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Is Jack there?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He is. Does he want to have a chat?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, I'll pass you over.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh great, Hi, hey jack Key, go mate?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Good?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Can I just say, first of all, mate, because your
mum's told us a little bit about your story, and
good on you for talking to her about it and
just telling her how you feel about yourself, because sometimes
it's hard to do that, especially as a young man,
you sort of feel a bit awkward talking about it.
But good on you for telling your mom that you
don't necessarily feel great about the way you look.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I know that that's hard, mate, But what is it about?
You know? When you look in the mirror? What are
you seeing? Mate?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
That I'm ugly and I'm fat?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's you know.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I know what it's like to feel that way, right,
I know what it's like to look there and see
that in yourself. And and and when you say those things,
it doesn't make you feel It doesn't make you feel
good either, does it? Like when you say those things,
you don't feel better for saying, You feel worse, don't you?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And I know that you know your mum's actually sent
us a photo of you and her mate. You're you're
a good looking young man? Can I tell you that?
And I know that sometimes it's hard to believe other people,
but you're a good looking kid and I don't think you've.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Fat at all?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Jack?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What are you good at soccer?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Soccer?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
What position? Do you play?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Midfield?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah? And are you in a couple of teams? You're
in a school team and a club team. Yeah, and
do you think you're good at that?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So in your mind, Jack, do you do you tell
yourself that you're a good soccer player?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Jack, Yeah, that's that's that's a really good that's a
really good point. You know, Robin's making there, made to
focus on It's good to remember that all the things
you're good at, not just focus on the things that
you're worried about, but the things.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That you're great at.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Because your um said, you've got lots of friends at school.
People love hanging out with you, and that's that's so positive.
That's such a cool thing to have as a young man,
and you've got to you've got to remember those good
things about you're not just focused on the things that
you're worried about.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah. Thanks, Jack.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Is there anything that we could say or do that
would make you change your mind about yourself?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's tough, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, all I want to say to you is the
other things that I would add to you as a
human being, Jack, is you're incredibly brave because you've just
spoken on the radio to two complete strangers about stuff
that is a bit kind of personal and weird, and
I would also say you are helping a whole bunch
of other kids just by being so honest.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Thank you. That's really brave, mate.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It took me thirty years to be able to do
what you're doing right now.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's incredible. You're a good man, Jack.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Kids.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Good on you, mate.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, and you will, Mate. I can't tell you how
many other kids will be listening to this with their
parents in the car and they'll be thinking, I feel
just like Jack. But we as adults all think you're extraordinary.
So thank you so much, Jack, Thank.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You amazing kid.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Oh yes, I reckon every like today. Particularly make sure
you go up to a young person and tell them
how amazing you think they are.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, we'll get some user sport. We've got some taller
swift tickets to get away that's coming up.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
That's then we could have screaming people on the radio
because Robunteary and Kip Kisses ninety seven to
We're going back to school this month, so every Friday morning,
we're going out to different schools.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And I got us.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Thinking about what we were like back at school, and
for me, it sort of triggered the body confidence issues
I had as a young man, and that plagued me
from as long as I can remember.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You saw photos, yeah, and I remember.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Thinking in my head in that photo that I was fat,
and then seeing myself as.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
A kid, going no, you weren't.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And it was so in your head that you know
that you were the worst looking kid in school and
all those things, and me telling that story has certainly
got a huge response via email, and even people just
stopped me in the street yesterday. And I know you
got a couple of emails from which gets us to
our next caller.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hello, Rachel, good morning, How are you good? To thank
you now? I received a message from you yesterday which
I just thought was so lovely, and you said to me,
can you please tell Kip my nine year old son,
Jack has been listening to him talk about body image
and it's incredibly timing because there is stuff going on
(01:02):
for him. What stuff is going on? Rach?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, Well, I'm fortunate that I've got a child who
says his inside thought, it's first the first thing. And
the last few months he's been saying to me, Mom,
why am I so fat? You know, I'm fatter than
the other kids. Mum, I look in the mirror and
I'm ugly? Why am I so ugly? And he's the
cutest little kidd And so I've been having these conversations
(01:27):
with him, saying, look, even when I was a little girl,
I used to think, oh, because I'm ugly as a kid,
I'll be beautiful when I grow up. And I said,
it's quite normal. A lot of kids have these thoughts.
But he didn't believe me, you know, as no child
does from his mother. So listening to you kid saying
that he now is seeing at least oh, there are
(01:48):
other people that do think that. It hasn't changed the
way he's thinking about himself, but it's making him feel
I guess a little bit more comfortable that it's not
just me making that up that other you know, other
people peep like that. That's what I wanted to say,
thank you for, because that's giving him some previous re experience.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I'm so glad that that's, you know, the start
of help Rachel. That must break your heart as a parent.
I can't even fathom how when he says those words,
how that must feel for you.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, no, it is. It is devastating. It's like I say,
especially because he is so cute. But what it tells
me is, you know, if he's a kid who's got
lots of friends, doesn't get bullied, you know, play lots
of sport, and he's a nice looking kid. If he's
thinking that, then you know the other kids out there
who are less fortunate would maybe thinking even worse thoughts
(02:39):
of themselves. I think you're helping a heap of kids
out there, and you're an adult. I mean, like you say,
Robbie Williams, a lot of adults have the same issues.
So it's good to get the info thoughts out there
to show other people it's normal.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Is Jack there?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He is. Does he want to have a chat?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, I'll pass you over.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh great, Hi, hey jack Key, go mate?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Good?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Can I just say, first of all, mate, because your
mum's told us a little bit about your story, and
good on you for talking to her about it and
just telling her how you feel about yourself, because sometimes
it's hard to do that, especially as a young man,
you sort of feel a bit awkward talking about it.
But good on you for telling your mom that you
don't necessarily feel great about the way you look.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I know that that's hard, mate, But what is it about?
You know? When you look in the mirror? What are
you seeing? Mate?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
That I'm ugly and I'm fat?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's you know.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I know what it's like to feel that way, right,
I know what it's like to look there and see
that in yourself. And and and when you say those things,
it doesn't make you feel It doesn't make you feel
good either, does it? Like when you say those things,
you don't feel better for saying, You feel worse, don't you?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And I know that you know your mum's actually sent
us a photo of you and her mate. You're you're
a good looking young man? Can I tell you that?
And I know that sometimes it's hard to believe other people,
but you're a good looking kid and I don't think you've.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Fat at all?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Jack?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What are you good at soccer?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Soccer?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
What position? Do you play?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Midfield?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah? And are you in a couple of teams? You're
in a school team and a club team. Yeah, and
do you think you're good at that?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So in your mind, Jack, do you do you tell
yourself that you're a good soccer player?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Jack, Yeah, that's that's that's a really good that's a
really good point. You know, Robin's making there, made to
focus on It's good to remember that all the things
you're good at, not just focus on the things that
you're worried about, but the things.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That you're great at.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Because your um said, you've got lots of friends at school.
People love hanging out with you, and that's that's so positive.
That's such a cool thing to have as a young man,
and you've got to you've got to remember those good
things about you're not just focused on the things that
you're worried about.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah. Thanks, Jack.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Is there anything that we could say or do that
would make you change your mind about yourself?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's tough, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, all I want to say to you is the
other things that I would add to you as a
human being, Jack, is you're incredibly brave because you've just
spoken on the radio to two complete strangers about stuff
that is a bit kind of personal and weird, and
I would also say you are helping a whole bunch
of other kids just by being so honest.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Thank you. That's really brave, mate.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It took me thirty years to be able to do
what you're doing right now.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's incredible. You're a good man, Jack.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Kids.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Good on you, mate.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, and you will, Mate. I can't tell you how
many other kids will be listening to this with their
parents in the car and they'll be thinking, I feel
just like Jack. But we as adults all think you're extraordinary.
So thank you so much, Jack, Thank.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You amazing kid.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Oh yes, I reckon every like today. Particularly make sure
you go up to a young person and tell them
how amazing you think they are.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, we'll get some user sport. We've got some taller
swift tickets to get away that's coming up.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
That's then we could have screaming people on the radio
because Robunteary and Kip Kisses ninety seven to
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