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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Joining us this morning is Emmy Award winning journalist and
best selling author. He's also a longtime family member of
the Steve Hobby Morning Show. Recently, he sat with President
Biden for a great one on one interview before Biden
withdrew from this year's presidential race and endorse Vice President
Kamala Harris as a Democratic candidate for presidents. Let's get
more insight on what's going on with this year's election.
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Please welcome a family member, O Boyd one and only,
mister Ed Gordon.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It good morning, y'all, Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Is it a good morning?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Ed?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Is it a good one?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You gotta be?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
We woke up.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
But we about to fight.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
All right, man, Let's get down to it. Brother.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I mean, everything that's going on, everything that you've seen.
What position do you think we're really in right now?
As a Democratic?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Cark?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, it really is a fight coming up. There's no
question about it, you know. I interviewed the President Biden
last Tuesday. He received a warm reception. It was at
the NAACP convention. He received a warm reception there. He
had received a warm reception in Detroit prior to that.
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Here's the interesting part. I think on Tuesday, he fully
believed that he was going to stay in this race
and was going to fight this out. So between Tuesday
of last week and yesterday, that's when the decisions were made.
On Friday, there was a lot of buzz. I was
in Washington, a lot of buzz about him stepping away.
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But again, as a Friday, I think he believed it.
But when he got COVID, it allowed him to really
sit with himself. He wasn't out there. The people started
talking to him, and I think they convinced him that
there was no way he was going to be able
to win. Now, let's take it to where we sit today.
It's not a foregone conclusion and that Kamala Harris is
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going to be the nominee, right, she still has to
get the delegates. It's not a plug and play. There's
a lot that has to happen between now and I
think it's one hundred and nine days we're at or
somewhere in there. So look, y'all, if we are going
to move this nation forward and make sure that we
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do not see another four years of Donald Trump, we're
going to have to see historic mobilization of the black vote.
I think the black vote is going to determine this election.
Black women have already, as of yesterday, started mobilizing. Sororities
have already started to raise millions of dollars. As of yesterday,
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within twenty four hours, forty to fifty million dollars already
put on the table. So it's going to be an
extraordinary effort, y'all. It's a big fight. It's not going
to be easy. It's not a four done conclusion. But
I'm going to assume that she is going to be.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Denominated and ed.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
That's one of the reasons. Well, you know, we were
at least I was. I was very sad when the
President made that announcement that he was dropping out of
the race. But what was you know, after you think
about it, what was great about it? He, unlike the
other party, put party, put people over party, and he
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said he did what was best for the country and
for the party, for the Democratic Party, and which means
his thought process was we got to beat Donald Trump
no matter what. And if I can't beat him, I'm
getting out of the race. And I loved you know,
when you look at it from that perspective, it makes
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it all make sense, and.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's a hard day for him yesterday. He worked his
entire life to become the president of the United States.
For him to walk away must be heart wrenching for him.
And I'm going to tell you what else. I know
that he's going to sit back and wonder why some
of these people turn tail and jump ship as quickly
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as they did, And many of them were concerned about
their own livelihood. They thought, if in fact he loses,
he's going to drag the race down and the down ballot,
as we call it down. I'm gonna tell you guys,
historically he will be looked back, looked upon. I should say,
as you're suggesting there, Shirley, that he did something for
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the country and put the personal thing aside. But that's
down the line right now. Again, we have a fight
because if Donald Trump wins and I normally don't say this.
You know, politics is politics, and you may not like
the person in the office, and you've got to struggle
through four years of policy you may not agree with.
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But this thing is completely different. I know people have
heard about Project twenty twenty five. It's been talked about
a lot. Would encourage you to make sure that you
just don't say Oh yeah, Project twenty twenty five. Yeah, yeah,
that's bad. Find out what it's really about. It's a
nine hundred page document. Nobody's gonna read the nine hundred pages.
I'm not asking you to do that. Find some articles,
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see what's in there. Look, if they could put y'all
back and change.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
We'd all be locked up.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm telling you, it's real. It's the truth. They've already
told you what they're going to do.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
What what what?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
What are some of the things that stand out to
you ed in this Project twenty twenty five that we
need to really add here to.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, let's let's let's look at an easy one. Right,
you've been hearing about this whole dismantling of THEE and I,
this sense of not being able to teach black history
in schools. Right, we all have heard about that. That's easy.
They want to eliminate the Department of Education as importance.
If you eliminate the Department of Education, there's nobody to
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really oversee what's taught in schools in the way that
has been done for decades now, which means that the
states will be free to run rampant and really start
to teach anything that they want. They've already told you
that's not what we want to hear. They are putting
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things in place. They're eliminating D and I programs. They've
started with States Rights down in Texas as a for instance.
The dismantling of D and I and higher education is extraordinary. Hey, Ed,
can we.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Just stop right here and take a break and come back.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Absolutely, we'll do that.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
We'll be back with more of Ed Gordon on the
Steve Harvey Morning Show right after this. You're listening Steve
Harvey Morning Show.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We are still here with our special guests, mister Ed Gordon,
and we are right in the middle of talking about
changing of the guards with now Miss Kamala is the
front runner for for the presidency. And when we let
you were talking about Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And you know, just very quickly, it's just an effort
to turn back the clock, to eliminate all of the
games that we've seen as a people. You know, I
sometimes I think we get too in the weeds with
politics and people kind of turned off. So just think
about it as an opportunity for Trump and his cronies
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to turn back many of the games that we've seen,
and it will really cripple African Americans, brown folk women,
et cetera. It's it's real. And for people who say
it won't matter, it doesn't matter who I vote for,
you know, that's saying around and find out.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
You about to find out, right.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The big question on the table now is, of course
we want we want Kamela to be to be definitely
the person that's chosen. Who would you suggest what strengthen
her by being her vice president?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, that's sixty four thousand dollars question, ain't it. You know,
you've got to figure that. It's got to be geographic
because we're really down to about six or seven states.
It's going to put this over the top. Again, not
to give a political lesson, but it's really about the
electoral college, which I wish they would get rid of. Right,
So some states are already taken care of. Democrats are
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going to win, you know, California without a doubt, in
New York without a doubt. So those are already in
the bank. It's Michigan, it's Pennsylvania, it's Georgia, it's pop Arizona.
There are a number of states, about six or seven
of them. So you think that they're going to be
one of the largest states. Shapiro out of Pennsylvania is
being talked about exactly, Greta Whitmer out of my state
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of Michigan. I do not think this country is ready
for two women, quite frankly sadly to say, so.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You wonder about her.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
A lot of African Americans are talking about Wes Moore
out of Maryland. I just don't think he's.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well enough, well enough known yet.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But look for him in twenty twenty eight, you know,
unless Kamala Harris decides to go two terms. Temmy, it's
a hard one because there's also something that's going to
be played. Politics is going to be one of those
things in back room like they used to do, starting to,
you know, decide who's going to be a part of
that ticket that's going to come into play in a
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way that we have not seen in the last three
or four elections. So I wish I had a crystal
ball and could give you an exact name that I
really know. But I think geographically is going to be
the biggest question. And I don't think it's going to
be somebody who's really liberal like Gavin Newsom out of California.
So it's going to be an interesting, you know, four
months or whatever we got left. But again I encourage
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African Americans, raise your voice, tell people, call your congress people,
let them know what you want to hear, who you
want to see, what you want to do, and really
get involved in a way that you haven't. It's going
to be about vote, turnout, just go round, period.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So let's do. Let's do this that we're gonna put
a pen in it. We're gonna come back and pick
up right where we left off. Man, we'll be back
right after you're listening.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Morning shows.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
We are back. We are still here with our special guests.
I want and only Ed Gordon, Emmy Award winning Best
Sending Author, our friend, and he has giving us plenty
insight on everything.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Everything everybody's talking about right now.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The by Biden stepping down, Kamala has actually been endorsed
by President President Biden.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And and here we are.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So my last question was you know who would be
the who would be the vice president that she would
choose if she gets the if she gets the nod,
And my my phone is blowing up, the TV's blowing
up all over the country. This is all we're hearing.
I guess the biggest thing, man, do we have enough
time to do it?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Ed?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Can we really pull it off?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I don't know. I certainly hope. So it's gonna be
a stretch if we're being honest. But at the end
of the day, and I was saying this before we
hit the brake, it's gonna be about voter to turnout.
You know, Democrats go I have to do what they do.
They don't always do it well. Dot I cross t's
They're going to have to do this. I was with
Stacey Abrams the other day and she was saying that,
you know, you got to keep a watch because you
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want to make sure that no states are going to
pull some you know, something crazy and say, well, she
didn't have enough time to put her name on the ballot.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
There are all kinds of things that could happen.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
But what we have to understand is, particularly in those
states Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, what they call these
purple states, it's going to be about voter turnout. Democrats
are going to have to get get out there. You know,
we need to hold old fish fries and get the bands,
the bus is ready and get people to the polls,
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and you know, we have to vote like we never have.
And it's became cliche. You know, this election is the
most important in your lifetime. We've been saying that for
a while. Some people buying, some people don't. This time,
no joke. This is real, real, real, And you know
I don't normally like to ring along. I'm pretty calm
and cool down the line.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
The house is on fire, y'all.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, So that there's a group that I'm that I'm
really hoping we can we can actually get them out.
How do we get our young adults, the college kids?
How do we get these kids for this to be
important to them, to get them to the polls to
come out and vote, because they got numbers that we need.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
To sit and talk to them and tell them why
we complain about them too often. All them young kids,
they don't do blah blah blah blah blah. Oh the millennials,
you know, y'all, like we wasn't like that when we
were younger.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
We were we were just like we were probably worse,
that's the worse.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Because we didn't have social media.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
They didn't come with some different DNA. They're young period.
You know, social media has made it harder on them.
They face some problems. You know we didn't, but every
new generation faces new problems. It's really educating them. You know.
There are a lot of them that knew nothing about
the civil rights movement, knew nothing about the trials and
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tribulations of black people. They just thought it was cool
from get go. And I understand that because they weren't
born back then and they weren't taught the struggles that
we've had. So it's really about sitting down with them
and letting them know why it's important to.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Vote and listen to them very quickly.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I'm sorry, but I understand why they are disillusioned by politics.
You know, politicians and I'm including Democrats in this, haven't
always done what they were supposed to do. And look, y'all,
Michelle Obama ain't gonna be the vice president, you know,
So let's let's let's let's stay in the real world
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and get in the real world and get this done.
So let's talk to your young people and get them out.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
And I was about to say a lot of these
young kids, like my son when he was born, Barack
Obama with President you know what I mean, you don't
know nothing else.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, and listen, you know what else they've never known
if they're thirty and under, and particularly if they're twenty
five and under, they've only known the dysfunctional world. Think
about all, they've lived through pandemic wars Trump, So to
have a dysfunctional president once again is part of the
course for them. We haven't been teaching them. Some of
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this ain't ain't right, y'all. You know life, life shouldn't
be this way.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
That's right, right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Well, Hey, we want to say thank you man for
timing in this morning.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Brother, always a family member, always welcome, and we always
always want to hear your insight on what's going on. Man,
So we greatly appreciate you stopping in.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I love y'all, Man, appreciate it. Let's get out.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Get the vote, will that's right, get the voting.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Early voting too. You could do that in many states
early votes.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Us is fish fries, barbecues. Whatever we got to do.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
All right, ed, we thank you.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
We'll have more of the Steve Harvey Morning Show coming
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