Gun Radio Utah: Live From the Gun Rights Policy Conference

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Downtown Salt Lake City at the beautiful Marriotte City Creek.
It will be going on until about noon tomorrow. So
it started yesterday, and so we've got some fantastic guests
lined up and joining me for the whole show. Rayl Cunningham,
Regional director of Women for Gun Rights and uh say

(00:21):
hi to the Gun Radio Utah audience.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Oh Hunradio Utah audience.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna boost you up just a
little bit because Denny's telling me that you have a
soft voice. So, anyway, Bill Patterson is on an unexcused absence.
I think he's on a ship somewhere, some kind of
a ship, probably in the stowage section.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
You shouldn't be allowed to take vacations, I know.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I know.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Anyway, so I get pictures from him by the Eiffel
Tower or it was some kind of a tower in
France anyway, and so, uh so he's on a it
is an unexcused absence, and so we are here broadcasting
live from that fantastic We've really had a great show.
In fact, Rayel, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on

(01:05):
what they call amcon and which is part of the
Gun Rights Policy Conference and Gun Rights Policy Conference is
an annual thing. This is the fortieth annual and they're
having it and they move it all around the country.
And for a while there they were really picking states,
especially cities that were really anti gun, just to kind

(01:26):
of poke the bear, if you will. And because they've
been in San Francisco, they've been to Chicago, they've been
you know, and you know, last last year they had
it in San Diego, which wasn't you know, hideous, you know,
it was nice, and then they've had it in Phoenix,
which is nice. But anyway, so let me tell you
about some of the guests we're going to have on today.

(01:48):
Amanda Suffer cool did I say they're right?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay? Good, she's not it.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
She doesn't have a mic in front of her, so
and you're really going to want to listen to this
because she I won't tell you exactly, but she's associated
with the National Rifle Association.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
So anyway, pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
And then we're going to have another guest on and
it's rail It's Ryan Petty, right, Ryan Petty. He gave
a very interesting talk I liked it a lot on
where he talked about school safety. He comes at this
from a very interesting perspective and you'll want to listen

(02:28):
to him. And I think we're going to have him
on third segment. Is that? Yeah, So Rayel is actually
is doing what Bill would normally do and she scheduled
everybody for me and so thank you very much, Rayel.
You've got You've got quite a group here at gRPC.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
We're pretty lucky. We have a lot of ladies from
Women for Gun Rights that have showed up. So many
of our women are involved in lots of different organizations,
not just Women for Gun Rights, and so it kind
of brings us all together. We have a really great group,
even just in the Salt Lake area that came to
support and show support for for everybody. We have a
couple of ladies speaking, uh. So we wanted to come
and make sure that we had our presence known and

(03:06):
were able to show our support for this.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Definitely did saw your booth.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's got the teal and you had a whole bunch
of little Jesuses on your table with a teal tunic on.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yes, because everybody needs a little Jesus in their.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Life, little Jesus. It was great.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
So, uh you you actually showed up you know, kind
of before the regular g RPC conference yesterday they put
on they started to put on this amcon talk about that,
and you watched that whole thing you started early.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
It was great. It was put on by Amanasubacole and
Charlie Cook and Cheryl Todd and their organization with the NRA. No,
it's just a bunch of a bunch of really wonderful
people who are in the media, and they kind of
just talked to us about what ways that we can
talk about the Secondmendment, how do we get in front
of media, what can we do better? How can we
stop using words like or so, which I do constantly unfortunately,

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And so it it was a really great learning experience,
especially for me where I'm still kind of new to
all of this. I'm not a radio host, I'm not
a podcaster, but i definitely want to have my voice heard.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well, you keep saying you're new to this, but you
show up at everything that there is, including the legislature.
You're out there, you're doing it, and we appreciate I
know you're tak shooting. Sports Council appreciates your involvement in this,
and you're in groups involvement so makeup.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Time last time because I'm already kind of you know,
I started a little late, so I'm making up time
by going to everything.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
You're doing great and you're a mom. Uh and what
is that?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Don't forget about your sponsor's clerk.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Oh okay, thank you, thank you very much. That's good. Okay,
see you you really are just filling in for bill
right there. That's rights bill, wish channeling bills. Throw a
piece of paper at me with the sponsors thing on it.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
All right, So yeah, we're gonna we're gonna have We're
gonna have that and let's see.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Okay, So I did find out some things.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
One of the interesting things I found out is that
no state in the United States.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Restricts a dog from carrying a gun.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh I think I've seen a meme about that on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, there is no state.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And New Hampshire has no minimum age for concealed carry
permits in their statute. Now, I don't know that they'd
given an eight year old a permit, but technically speaking,
if they did, they would not be violating New Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Stay long.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
New Hampshire has almost no like, they don't have any
qualifications to get a permit. You don't have to do
a class or anything. You just kind of go into
your sheriff's office and.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Apply and do you know, but now New Hampshire has
lived free or die.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Now you know another.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
State that has no you know, just come in and
get fingerprints is the state of Washington.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Oh yeah, the state of Washington. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
So in fact, I have gotten a Washington permit, walked
in there, got fingerprinted.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
They literally handed me the permit. So there you go,
sociper case. Yeah, it's it.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
And let's be honest, Washington does have its problems.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So yeah, yeah, pretty much, especially the western half.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
So anyway, so we've been hearing, we've been hearing some
some fantastic speakers at RPC.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Our own carry Anne Lizzenbee was on a panel.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
With the Arizona Speaker of the House and the Montana
Attorney General.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
And make sure I got that right.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah that sounds I think that was right.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
And carry Anne just did a fantastic She just flew
in from Boston last night and she'd been there doing
some legislative stuff of some kind.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I'm assuming or maybe trying to say.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
She said she's from her fam. She has family there.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh, maybe that was it. I thought she was trying
to set Massachusetts right. So anyway, okay, so we've got that,
and yeah, I'm so, I'm I. You've got to stay
tuned for Amanda and she's she's here listening to this.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
So no pressure, Amanda.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Because we had a very interesting talk and it was
during that talk I decided you must come on the radio.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And she actually has her own. In fact, I'm gonna wait.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I'm gonna wait to give the plug for your own
radio show that you have until you come on, and
you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do it
right now that I'm thinking about it, because you reminded
me Sportsman's the gunsmith at Sportsman's Warehouse. It's the gunsmith
at Sportsman's Warehouse. And I like to say, when your

(07:32):
spouse gets your gun and messes with it and breaks it,
what do you think about when your spouse messes So
we instantly think Casey Jane. So anyway, so, but Casey
Jane has her own, so maybe it's me messing with her.
But anyway, whatever, whatever ailes your gun or you just
want it, Casey Jane wants to put up to bedazzle

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her guns.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I don't know the gunsmith will do be dazzling, but
I mean maybe for her they will. And Sarah co
did reblued any kind of thing. If you want a
if you want an MOS site, you know, an optic,
a red dot on your gun that wasn't made for,
they can do that. They can put the slide cut
on there and all that thread the barrels, they can

(08:20):
do stock work. They will rechamber it for a completely
different round. The gunsmith a Sportsman's Warehouse sixteen thirty South
fifty seventy West in Salt Lake City, eight oh one
three zero four eighty seventy. Or you can take it
into any of the over one hundred and forty six
Sportsman's Warehouse locations and they will get it to the gunsmith.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
All right. So when we come back, we're going to
have Amanda on and stay tuned. We'll be right there.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
See aw, he's on an unexcuse absence, and I'm happy
to welcome to gun Radio. Utah, Amanda, suffol cool Amanda.
What what you do? Many things? What is your what
I mean you have your own radio?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Jokes?

Speaker 4 (09:01):
I do? I do.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
I'm the only nationally syndicated Second Amendment radio host that's
female in the nation.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
The hell you say? I have to say that every
once in a while.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
There you go, really exactly, no kidding. So it's like,
it's amazing. I'm a girl and I talk about guns.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay, what's the name of the show. It's called I
on the Target Radio.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I on the Target Radio, and it's I on the
Target Radio dot com.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
I also to watch that, and it's podcast after it's
terrestrial radio. So it's a little bit of all that
and so and do I have to pay to listen
to it? No, No, it's free.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
It's free.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh, just like gRPC. Yeah, so cool. All right, so
we're here at gRPC. What you do other stuff?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Though?

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Tell us about NRI now.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Come, well, well, I was in the class of twenty
twenty three for the Board of Directors of the NRA.
So I'm retired to aerospace engineer, believe it or not,
and now I'm a problem solver on the NRA board.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
So there's that.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
I also am on the board for the A Girl
in a Gun Legacy Foundation for Women for Gun Rights.
It's like, since I retired, I got to I get
to play kind of in my wheelhouse, which is guns.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
And so I get to use some of my my
problem solving and my planning and and my analytical experiences
and using them for good not evil, if you will.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
For.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
The institution.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
And I work with the Second Amendment speaking of good
not evil.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
NRA.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, No, I've just given you.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Uh, you're on the board. Yeah, and uh.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
You can imagine that some of our listeners and including me,
had some reservations about the n RA, and and and
and maybe Intel recent fairly recently, uh has the what's
going on with the NRA right now?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Start with saying you're welcome, okay.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
But the reason, but part of the reason is is
when I was trying to get on the board, people
are like, it is in trouble. It is a big problem.
The NRA is not doing this. It's not viable. It's
not this, it's not that. Why do you want to
be on the board. And I'm like, for those reasons.
It has been here for one hundred and fifty four

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years and it's not going to die on my watch.
So I'm going to get in there and I'm going
to duke it out, and I'm going to do everything
I possibly can to fix it, and I'm going to
help build bring other people who have the skill sets
that are needed to do that. So I am proud
to say that I am part of the team that
has been working diligently to turn the NRA around.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Okay, is the is the board changing and it's kind
of makeup or it's it's boy howdy? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
I mean frankly, if you, if, if you, and as
you are paying attention, you're going to see something it
started last year that you've never seen before, which is
actually members who are running for the board who buy
an ad in the NRA magazine when your ballots there.
There are there are ads that you can get to websites,
and there's people who are talking about who they are

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and why they're running. And there's actually a couple different contingents,
the Republicans versus the Democrats. Not really, but you know,
everybody's got names for them, whatever you want to do.
But there was that, and those are not inexpensive ads.
So for an unpaid position, people are ponying up money
to buy a two page spread, full color in all

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of the magazines in the MRIA. So you will soon
see populated for the election that starts in January of
twenty twenty six. There's a website called elect a New NRA,
and that is where the reformers will show up and
you'll start to see them and you'll start to get
to see who they are. And I'm going to tell

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you that i was elected in twenty twenty three and
then I'm back on the ballot again. I'll be in
the class of twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Sex Amanda Supper cool and so is there a wreck?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
So if you want the reformer list, are you on
the reformer lit ballots?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
There will be suggested ballot, so there will be the
website for that.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
But we still have not we don't know exactly everyone
who is on the who's going to be on the
ballot yet.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Because there's a couple of ways to.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Get on the ballot to be a board office, to
be on the board of the NRA. One of them
is a committee within the NRA that has a nominating
committee and they pick a group of people. But then
there's also others who run by petition and so if
they get a certain percentage of voting members, so life
members or five year members to sign a petition they

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too can be on the ballot. The deadline for that
is October seventh, So by the tenth, by the twelfth,
somewhere in there, we'll know exactly who all is going
to be on the ballot.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
So if you're an you need to be an NRA
member and good standing up the tape.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Member or have been a dues paying member for five
continuous unbroken years, okay, and then that you're a voting member.
And you'll know you're a voting member because when your
magazine comes in mid January, the February edition of your magazine,
when it comes, it will have a ballot in it.
If you're not a voting member, it will not have

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a ballot in it.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
It will be the same magazine, no ballot.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Okay, Okay, excellent, So watch that Amanda suffer.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Cool?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
All right, So Amanda, you you actually took part in
at your kind of the big deal at AMCON.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
The correct Now, I got to remember what is amcon? Stand?

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Come on in Ryan alternative mass media. So what happened
was a couple of years ago here for the Second
Amendment Foundation, we're saying that there's voices that are Second
Amendment people, people who want to get involved, people who
want to speak, people who want to speak up, and
they're like, I'm afraid to you because I don't know
what to do. I don't know what to say, I

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don't know how to do it. So what we did
was we get a group of volunteers who said, come
sit down and we'll teach you.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
So there's a free session.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
So when you're coming to the gun Rance Policy Conference,
if you just attend a day early, it's all free.
You just pay for your hotel room and you travel
to get here and we'll we'll teach you something. And
so every year there's something different and the.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Group that puts that together.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
The goal is is we douke it out amongst ourselves
a lot and saying it has to It can't be
something that's just a tremendous speaker.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
What are is that speaker going to teach you?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Okay, so I got to tell you my observation from
last year and this year is one jerr PC keeps
them to the time or amkon keeps them to that
fifteen minute stegment or whatever it is, and they know
they have to get that information out. So some of
them use powerpoints some don't. But it is solid, information

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packed stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
There's not a lot of small talk. It makes your
head hurt by the end of it, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, Well, I go through you know, typically on a
regular talk, I'll go through a few lines here were
in there. I was going through pages if fantastic and
I'm taking pictures of the PowerPoint.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
This is a good idea, and oh look at that,
and oh I didn't think about this, whatever that is.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I'm telling you, I learned something every year.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
And so sometimes i'm the presenter and sometimes i'm the
EMC and you know, so it's a it's a little
bit of all that. But I come away with just
as much as I give to other people.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Well good, So I think it's been a fantastic conference.
Every conference is different. Every conference has a theme. Their
theme that they're pushing this year is advocacy through action,
and so I tried to tailor my talk for tomorrow
morning at nine. And you can go to g RPC
dot no excuse me, go to saf dot org slash

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g r PC Gun Rights Policy Conference and you can
actually watch live the streaming things.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
And are they recording it too? Can you want some link? Yeah,
you'll be able to see it later. And Bearing Arms
has got link.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
So if you can't remember all of that, just go
to Bearing Arms and look up what's going on this
weekend and so much networking.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
People are coming from all over the country and oh, oh,
I got to tell you.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
So a guy comes up to me.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
He says, hey, Clark, how are you, I said, and
I kind of look at him like you look familiar, bud,
But I can't play, he says. I says, have we met?
And he says, oh, yeah, yeah, we met, And I'm
like okay, and I'm kind of trying to drive, you know,
tell me where we met.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
He says.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I was the the UH I represented the the US
Department of Justice against you on your bump stock case.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
And I looked at him.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
I said, now I remember you and this guy he said.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
He said, you know, word is though that.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
There were more than a few of us that were
rooting for you. You know, long story short, Yes, yes
we won that, and he said then he went so
Trump hired him or appointed him to one of them.
I didn't realize that we had seventy or seventy five
federal law enforcement agencies, and he appointed him the head
of a little teeny tiny one. But now he runs

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Florida's doge.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's good. So yeah, and he's here at jerr PC.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
So anyway, got my picture with him, and then oh,
thank you very much. Right, you're so awesome. All right,
let me tell you about did you run? You run
out of ammo when you shoot? You know, I run
out of ammo quickly when I shoot machine guns off
the bat's porch. So anyway, Uh, the place to get
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Speaker 4 (18:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Draper is four thirty eight West one hundred and twenty
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And you can get your target stuff. You can get
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Speaker 3 (19:14):
Everything you need at Flash my Brass. And they are.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Open today until I want to say six and then
I don't think they're open Sunday. But anyway, get over
to Flash my brass and when we Amanda, thank you
very much for being on Gun Radio Utah.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Been awesome. I on the Target dot Com. I on
the Target Radio dot Oh excuse me, I.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
On the Target Radio dot Com. All right, when we
come back, we're gonna have Ryan Petty on. You don't
want to miss this one. Stay tuned, especially after your
comments earlier today at gRPC Ryan Petty, Ryan, you are
a you joined a very.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Unique club, if you will. A Parkland father.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
That's right, yeah, one of the fathers of the one
of the seventeen killed in Parkland in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
In twenty eighteen, it was your daughter, my daughter, Elena.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
She was fourteen, sitting in her freshman English classroom, couldn't
get to a safe area, tried to get to the teacher,
tried to get behind the desk, but unfortunately that was
in the line of sight and she lost her life.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I'm sorry. Tell us about Elena.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Oh look, she was wise and beyond her years. I
like to call her my second conscience in many ways,
because whenever she thought I was doing something that wasn't
quite fatherly or up to her standard. She'd let me

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know by rolling her eyes and saying, oh, Papa.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Did she say papa? She said that right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, So I missed her. I miss her greatly. She
was our youngest, absolutely wonderful, just had such a sense
of purpose and a love for this country that at
such a young age. She was a member of the
JROTC in her in her high school, and she was
on one of the teams there, and just she was

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like the teammate everybody wanted to have because she was
always sharing for her teammates, always pushing them to do
better than they thought they could, and just everybody loved
her and we really miss her.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Elena Petty, thank you. You gave some very some very
pointed things about school safety today, and I'll just I'll
say one of the things that that was interesting to
me that the shooter didn't go into the actual classrooms.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
What did this guy do instead?

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, so basically he walked, he entered the building, He
walked down the hallway looking through that little glass window
that most classrooms, you guys are probably picturing the hallways
with the little the little glass windows in every classroom,
and he started shooting at anything he could see through
that through that window, he killed a couple of kids

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that were in the hallway.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Unfortunately they were out there for.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
They were put out in the hallway to do homework
or because they were being disruptives.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
They unfortunately lost their lives.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
But he was shooting through that glass into the classrooms
at anyone he could see.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Okay, you also, and I've been I've been working. I
worked with you know, Representative Ryan Wilcox, I do. He's
the chair of the House Judiciary Committee here in Utah,
and he's traveled out there, and you've worked with him
because he has developed this fantastic along with you. I'm sure,
this fantastic school guardian program. Now, another thing that you
brought up that I actually wrote notes on, was you

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talked about the Safer Skies program or the flight deck
Officer program, and two things in that that we do
there after nine to eleven. We addressed it instantly, didn't we.
What are those two things?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (23:07):
We changed, you know, nine to eleven changed the way
we fly forever. Two things that have been effective that
I really appreciate that we're changed. One is we we
harden the cockpit doors so nobody gets in now, right.
And then we allowed pilots to carry firearms, and we
put air marshals on right that are undercover. Right, you

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don't know that they're there, and so that that prevents
that type of nine to eleven attack. Obviously, they can't
get into the cockpit, they can't take over the plane,
they can't fly it into a building. Right, kill Americans, innocent,
innocent lives. Second thing is those firearms are deterrent. You're
going to meet if you try to attack an American airline,

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you're going to meet deadly force and you don't know
where it's coming from.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
So two things, You lock the doors and you arm
the pilots. Okay, now make the correlation. Make the connection
to schools.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yeah, The connection I made this morning for those that
were listening to my presentation is every school in America
should do the same thing right, and there are very
few states that have taken that up. I'm happy to
say Utah is one of them. It's fantastic. Florida is another.
We have not had another Parkland style incident, although we
have had, to my knowledge, over twelve potential threats. Now,

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would they have been as bad as Parkland? We don't
know because they didn't happen. But we have a turrent
at the school. We have armed staff right that are
there undercover, and we have school resource officers at every school.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Sometimes there's more than one.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
So basically, what we said is our schools shouldn't be
soft targets.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
They shouldn't be gun free zones. They should be gun
filled zones.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
You help design the security system, well, not systems, but
the protocol, the every the metric for security there because
you you obviously had enough.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
How much does it cost to lock the doors?

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Oh, that's the other The other thing we do is
we lock our classroom doors, we locked the outer building doors,
or we set up another perimeter like a fence or
another gate. It caused nothing to do that, right. The
only the only objection that we get. You know, you
get occasionally a teacher wants to cool down a classroom
or something. It's hot in Florida even now, and so

(25:28):
they'll they'll try to prop a door open. But we've
got you know, our security staff trained, We've got principles
and administrators trained, and we've got most of the teachers
are pretty well trained, and they keep their classroom doors
locked and we've seen that as a huge deterrent. It
just it's not going to be easy to get past
the fence into the building, and certainly not into a classroom.

(25:49):
And now I'm I'm pleased to say and I and
I know you're working on this here.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
In Utah too.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
We've we've got our kids and our teachers trained to
get into that safe area where they not in the
line of fire. And we saw this, we saw the
benefit of all that training we've done for our kids
when we recently had a shooting at Florida State if
you remember a few weeks ago, and the professors there
had no idea what to do. I got a I
got a frantic call from a mother of a friend

(26:19):
who has a daughter there, and her professor when the
shooting started was like, well, I guess you can just go.
He didn't know what to do, and she said, no,
hang on, I know what to do. Let's barricade those
doors and let's get into this safe area. So a
graduate of a K through twelve school in Florida taught
them what to do at Florida State and kept that

(26:39):
classroom safe.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Okay, that see yet another yet another story.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
You know, we we put a lot of money into safety,
and we've been doing it before Parkland. And we've just
got about two minutes left. But what was it, six
hundred million dollars?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
How much?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
How much money was given to Florida schools for safety
or for security before that?

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, the year before Parkland happened, the voters in the
county where we lived passed a eight hundred million dollars
school safety bond. We found out subsequent that none of
that money, or very little of that money had it
been used for school safety, had been used for laptops.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Okay, I I I want to say it's surprising, but
unfortunately it isn't you know. And I like to say
that in Utah we we don't necessarily arm our teachers.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
We just don't disarm them.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah, so that's important because you know, I shared that story.
I related one of the one of the teachers in Parkland.
You know, I said, on the commission that investigated the tragedy,
we saw the video shooter going through the school, and
there was a there was a veteran proficient with firearms,
but because of the law, he was disarmed that day
and couldn't fight back. And I watched him I watched

(27:59):
the killer execute him. He could have stopped that tragedy.
I'm certain of that.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, I want to say your daughter's name again, Elena Petty.
That's right, and Ryan, thank you very much for sharing
what I'm sure you have shared before.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
But it's very hard.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
And thank you so much for your insight and your
action to make these schools safer.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Thank you, though, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
When we come back on Gun Radio Utah, We've got
lots more to come. Stay tuned. Women for Gun Rights.
What was that about shooting sports? Now?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh, during gRPC someone had mentioned about kids shooting sports
and how oh yeah, yeah, yeah in the high school
so they can't get letters.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
For those, but they have golf and they have soccer,
and they have chess.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Well, and I think of my son, who is not
so overly athletic. He's very small and built, kind of
like me, but he loves shotgun and shooting trap And
how great would it be if his school was sponsoring
that so that he could get a credit.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I think it's fantastic. What do we need now, You're
not just handing it to Utah Shooting. I think this
should be spearheaded by by Women for Gun.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Happy to do that. I'd love to get working.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
So put a letter in this or I mean, is
that what you're thinking?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, they could get they could letter in it, just
like in any other sports like football or basketball. Get
their little letter jacket or whatever it might be, right,
so that they can have something to.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I'd be a cool jacket. That would be such a
cool jacket. Okay, so all right. We were also talking
about the schools. Yeah, and brand new schools. Do you
dare mention which one it was?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Or okay, okay, go ahead, we'll throw the under the bus. Yeah,
because there's no apologies here.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, no apologies. So my son goes to middle school
in Mapleton. There's only one, so there you go. You
can devise which one that is brand new school. It's
been open maybe two three years at the most. And
we went back to school night and the first thing
I noticed was every classroom has a glass wall that

(29:57):
faces the hallway.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
A wall, not just a win No, it's the entire.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Wall, and it opens and closes kind of like a
screen door. And then they do have a door, like
a normal door like in a regular school. But I
first thing I turned to my husband and I was like,
do you think that's bulletproof. And then my son had
been talking to a friend and he comes back to
me and he's like, how old is your son? My
son is eleven turning twelve, Okay, And he turns to
me and he's mom, and he's like, Mom, this doesn't

(30:22):
seem safe to have a glass like, seems very easy
to break.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
You know.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Oh my gosh, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I haven't asked the school, but I just blows my mind.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
So to me, I mean, you get all this money
for a brand new school, and you've got a clean
slight so to speak, to start with, and you can
incorporate well you could incorporate some safety features into it, yeah,
or you could make it even worse than it was before,
you know, I.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Mean I understand locking the door and checking people in
and making sure we show ID, which I am one
hundred percent for every single time. But what happens if
you know that kid sneaks in, you know, the kid
who goes to school there that doesn't have to check
in and show his ID, yeah, and can just shoot
through like Ryan was saying, you know they shoot through
the window.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well, you know, I remember when we were when we
were holding when Senator Kennedy State Senator Kennedy before he
became US House Member. Uh when the appointment to the
Utah School Safety Commission, which is weird because it's the
same letters as Utah Shooting Sports Council and United States

(31:33):
Supreme Court. Anyway, so USSC, you know, you say, oh,
I'm representing uss C.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Anyway. They I remember the UEA.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Utah Education Association, the lobby for primarily for teachers, and
the Utah PTA got after us when we said we've
got to start locking these doors. They literally said, oh,
you're going to turn all the schools into prisons. And
I said, no, we're gonna lock the doors so people
can't come in unless they're supposed to.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
People can still get out.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
As opposed to a prison, which is just the other
way around. And they balked at that. They said, oh, no,
we're turning it into a prison. And then they hated
the idea of every adult, whether they be staff, faculty,
or a contractor you know, somebody coming to fill the

(32:28):
PEPSI machine or whatever, or a visitor having an ID
on them having to check in at the office and
getting some kind of thing that says, I checked in
at the office, this is my name, and I remember
the lady from I want to say it was Uia
saying you can't expect people to wear a tag all

(32:49):
the time. And she's literally saying this to me across
the table and she's wearing a tag. She's wearing her
ID tag on her around her neck.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, at my daughter's school, so my daughter goes to
a different school. She goes to school in Provo and
brand new school as well. And their security, the way
they have it set up is amazing. You walk in
and you immediately have to scan your ID through this
little program, even though the office ladies, I might some
of the other guys know you, Yes they know me,
but they like, you need to do this so that
it registers. And then I go into the office and

(33:18):
they give me a little sticker that says volunteer visitor,
and then I can go into the school and they
do it every time. It doesn't matter how many times
they've been there or my mother in law was the
principal of that school. So I mean, we are known there,
we know who they know us, but it shouldn't matter.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Uh no, no, it really shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Hey tell us a little bit about more about Women
for Gun Rights? How can people how can people join?
How can people find out more about it?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah? So Women for Gun Rights is a really great
national organization. We do have a grassroots here in Utah
and hopefully in every state to help. We want women
to be the voice of the Second Amendment. You've heard
of Mom's Man action. They wear their red shirts, they're
very anti gun. Where the counter the count voice to
that we want. We don't want people to think that
they speak for people like me. I am a mother,

(34:05):
I have three kids, but I don't want to be disarmed.
My husband, who works in law enforcement, you know, he's
out doing his job every day. He's not there to
protect us. I still have to call the police if somebody,
somebody comes into my home. You know, average response time
five to ten minutes. Like I need to be able
to take care of my family. And that's what we're
advocating for is to be our own first responder. To
work with our legislators, let them know who we are

(34:26):
and let them know that we care and that we're
not just going to sit back and let another organization
claim that what they believe is for everyone.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
So Women for Gun Rights, as I've seen the last
few years.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
You're a you're a consistent voice on Utah's Capitol Hill,
and you've got you've got branches all over the nation.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, we try to have one in every state, and
for those states that we don't have, we're looking for
actively looking for women to step up and fill that
role that I as the I'm a regional director and
kind of the Utah state director, and I go up
to the capitol anytime. Anytime anybody needs anything, I'm like,
reach out to me. I will be there. I will
drop everything.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
In fact, you have actually builled in for me before
when I was I don't know where I was.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
I was out hel helling around or something. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
And my son, my son, who is a big firen
like love shotguns, and so I brought him to testify
before to help, you know, be that voice for.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Ye seeing that's something a mom could do, but so
many moms don't. And now and you said something that
the we've just got about a minute left. The average
response time for law enforcement is five to ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yeah, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
And time that's you know when when a cat is
stuck up on the tree, that that doesn't seem like
that long but then what Ryan Petty in his research
has shown that the average school shooting occurs three to
five minutes.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, that's right, and it's that's it's scary.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
It's done, it's over by the time, and law enforcement
is getting there quick.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
I know that they are.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
They are they are you know, F one raged cards
to get there, and they don't wait, they just they come.
They just come charging in, not like New Mexico. And
that that was that was that was just devastating. Anyway,
Rail thank you so much, and I think.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
We're going to enjoy the rest of g r p C.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
And uh so, thank you very much for listening to
Done Radio Utah.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
We'll be back again next week.