Gun Radio Utah - Vivek Murthy Stand on Guns,Are Gun Really a Public Health Crisis?, Perfect Pull USA; What issues Concern Americans

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I have how many five words foryou from my cold deadham. It's time
for Gun Radio Utah, No Apologies, a show dedicated to preserving and protecting
your constitutional right to bear arms foryour security and sport. Here's your host,
well known gun rights advocate and chairmanof the Utah Shooting Sports Council,

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Clark Opposion. Welcome to con RadioUtah. Of course, are no apologies
we do. It's not that wedon't do stuff that normal people would apologize
for. We just don't ap plainand simple. Yeah, yeah, So
anyways, welcome, of course,and a fantastic show today. Really,
oh, you've gonna definitely want tostay tuned. Second segment. We've got

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a really really cool new thing thatwill help you instantly put your shots on
target. But I'm not going totell you till sales. Second segment,
so yeah, we're gonna be talkingabout Vivek murt not Murphy murthymrthy mirthy,
murthy, mirthy, mirth mirthy madevec. I think anyway, he's he's

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like this, he's a general,he's a he's a surgeon general and he's
got it like a military uniform on. Have you seen that he's got like
little campaign ribbons for the number ofabortions he's done or something. I don't
know anyway, but he does.He has these campaign He's like a general
like the post office jafre. Generally, he doesn't have a lot of badges
on. Yeah, did you know? Yeah, you're right, Yeah,

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you're right. Okay, anyway,scalpel train, Yeah, we're gonna be
talking about why guns are supposedly whyhe say guns are a public health epidemic,
an epidemic. Think about the time, you know, I know,
okay, well, what about thetime we're getting ready we're going into an

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election season now, I kind ofafter this last week I kind of say,
okay, officially we are now init. We got rid of the
primaries here in Utah, which wassee, I don't think election seasons till
after my birthday, after Labor Day. Right, But okay, all right,
i'd argue with you, all right, but I like to all right,

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so we're going to be talking aboutthat. We're going to be talking
Oh, we got to talk aboutthe thing that we were on for the
last three days. Yes, outin Cedar Fort ken Garth's Keys to Success
fundraiser. It was a shooting eventout at Wassatchwing and Clay, Yeah,
Sporting Clay, Sporting Clay. Yeah. So it's kind of like a golf
event where they have you know,twenty or thirty different foursomes and they you

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know, instead of going to differentholes, you go to different stations,
stations. So we had fourteen differentstations, and we were in charge of
two of those. Yes, wewere shooting. Sports councils so invited us
back. They invited us back afterlast year disrupting with all the kids.
Yeah, the volunteer high school kidsthat were you know, these shooting the
shockwave, shooting the shock and thenwe doubled that. We got that better

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double down. Well, in fact, I might as well talk about Yeah,
I brought the streets the destructive device. Yeah, the ATF classified destructive
device, the street sweeper in wintertwig, Winter in winter twig. It's
a shotgun. It's a good shotgunwith an overfolding stock, but you can
easily shoot it with just a pistolgrip. I think it's got a ten
inch barrel on it, maybe maybeeight to ten ten inches, and that

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one had a twelve round drum onit and it just just just press the
trigger and it just keeps shooting.Ye A lots of time fun. So
yeah, and they had fun.In fact, I got to give some
of the names. I gotta givea shout out. I gotta give it
a shout out to Porter and Cooperand Ace and Riley and Paisley and Kievan
and there's many others. And thereare many, many of them. You

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know. They came in second placein last year's Nationals in Texas. Second
place in the nation was the Wahsatchin Clay Uh group kids shoot I called
the kitchen group there. That wasawesome. Second place some places an awesome
for so anyway, that was thatwas a lot of fun. And I

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will say this, No, Ididn't hit anything with that short sweeper.
I didn't hit any I don't thinkanybody did, did they? No,
I know, I didn't know.And also we want to thank Axel.
We met with AXEL earlier this weekAxel Hearing, Axel Hearing, and they
provided us We've been talking about thisfor some time, but they provided Clark
and I have some ex corps hearingprotection. The newest coolest lil thing x

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cord. You think of the uhwhat do they call the eyebuds or what
do you call those eyebuds? What? What? I don't know that that
ear pods, the earbuds, thethings, think of those completely just yeah,
really cool. Yeah, and sowe'll get those. We'll get those
folks out the next couple of weekshere and talk about the productice. I

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they they they worked perfect for me. I thought it was awesome. Then
we got also Drew. I don'twant to give it all away here.
Uh. Well, we're gonna talka little bit about the Biden Trump debate
and and not and it's gonna begun related though no mentions of guns.

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But uh but we're gonna talk abouthow this all fits in with kind of
some false claims on what what's important, what's top of mind with the nation
and the average voter. Well,let's let's hear some wisdom, just as
a little teaser. Let's hear justa little bit of wisdom from President Okay,

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made it harder for people to buystabilized races. Put a pistol on
a brace, it turns into agun. Thanks for you can have a
higher caliber weapon, a higher caliberbullet coming out of that gun. People.
It just doesn't embrace on a gunand it turns into You put a

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pistol on a and it turns intoa gun, turns into a gun.
Okay that it shoots a higher listeningto this, if you were to listen
to this, you would you wouldliterally drop your IQ level if you listen
to it enough. So I'm notonly going to play it that one time,
because you will lose brain points.Well, and it's kind of a

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reflection of what we just heard andsaw this last week and when was that
done? That was done a whileago when he brought that up, and
it's like, guys, there's apattern here. But yeah, you put
a pistol on a brace, itbecomes a gun and makes it more deadly,
more deadly, high caliber weapon,higher caliber weapons. I can't even

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I can't even follow the flow thethoughts of that. So how would you
fact check that? And how manyfact checks the demerits would you get?
How how many falsehoods are in thatone sentence? Let's put it this way,
if you were a fact checker,when would you stop? Yeah?

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What have you stopped? And canyou understand it? Yeah? Because well,
anyways, all right, so we'rein the we're obviously in the new
studio, we're live right behind Bill. We've got our new gun radio Utah
talk ready one oh five point ninek n R S. Flag yeah,
or flag were flying and we probablyall have to take it down because somebody

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will somebody will take because there's nothinghanging in this We have what twelve video
sunraings everywhere. But no, no, yeah, I think it should stay.
Maybe if we pin it to thelights, they won't be able to
take it down. Oh that yeahthough, Yeah, anyways, okay,
it is this is kN R Sthough, I mean, this is this

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is a good no apologies, noapology a public So also we're going to
kind of link Bill. I wantto link in when we uh well actually
next segment we're going to have ourguest on, but I want to link
the Gallup poll. So, folks, well, in between the commercials and
that kind of thing, think aboutwhat the most important problem that you think

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is a problem in the nation ormaybe in the world. I don't know,
what is the most important what's yourproblem? Yeah, what's your top
of mind going into this next election? What is the most important thing that's
top or is it second or isit third? And I'm not saying,
you know that that the president cansolve or the society cansolve, or what

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is it? Though? What's thebiggest thing? Because that is a question
that Gallup has asked for the lastforty five fifty years something like that,
and they ask it almost on amonthly basis, and they have some very
interesting, very interesting data to lookat. And we're gonna kind of combine
that, I think with Vivic Murphy. General Murphy kind of like to maybe

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give out our call in number aswell, just get a couple of callers
to I didn't tell I told Markwe weren't going to do well. We
might Okay, you know, you'vegot your second segment coming. Let's do
a coin toss for this next segmentand we might throw out a So we
are going to take a break rightnow, so stay tuned. We'll be
right back. I know, becauseI just barely got this and I had

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to practice and I got to save. Do I have a name for it?
Casey calls mind drony, dron drony. You know, but hey,
welcome back to gun Radio, Utah. Sorry, we get carried away with
some of our toys and we weretalking in between the breaks. How I
know there's got to be a wayto mount my taris judge on there can't

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because I'd love to do it.Specifically a Utah law against putting a gun
on a drone? Oh yeah,or we have you put a drone on
a gun and it turns into ap stole and it fires higher caliber stuff.
You see, you're the reason.You're the reason that the ATF comes
out and bans things like you broughtup a good point. We're the only

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state that doesn't allow a gun tobe mounted on a drone. Yeah,
okay, yeah, a drone ona gun. No, we're not the
only state okay that that does thatdoes that? There's lots of states that
say you can't count a gun ontoa drone. But what if I mount
a drone on a gun? Okay, now there you go. You mean
you have a have a chance youhave a drone gun? Then? Yeah,

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exactly, Okay, okay, sorry, good we got am I answering
those or are you going to dothat? You're going to thank you,
Mark. So we decided it's veryhelpful. And I caused a riff by
saying possibly we should have callers callin, but then with our next guess,
we got to have callers call inbecause we've got a special gift for
you. So write this number downeight eight eight five seven oh eight zero

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one zero. There's two parts forthis call. One, we want to
know what's top of mind with youin regarding to this next election. What
what do you what do you can? What's your big issue? What's your
big what's a big issue? Whatdo I will bring up our issues that
we have as well. But withthat said, I got issues with you,
Yeah, I got problems with youpeople, lots of problems. Let's

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talk about fireworks and sandy never mind. Hey, let's move on and guess
what we've got Kevin Kipple here?Clipple? Did I say that right?
Yes? Clipple, President, ownerinventor with Perfect Poll USA. And we
are so glad to have you herebecause I've got my perfect poll right here.

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And this is a cool thing anda ring. It's a ring.
It's a trigger ring, silicon ring. But I want you to describe it
because we're on radio here, sobest describe what this thing does. Well,
it's so new that you, yes, you need to describe it.
Yeah, you have to. I'vetalked to so many gun people, and
they've shot for years, and whenthey look at it and see the concept,

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they go, oh my gosh,it's think so simple. Well,
when I saw it as an instructor, I saw it because, well,
let me just start off. Asan instructor, I can teach people.
I mean, I get their goodpresentation from the holster, and they can
take apart the gun and they canyou know, they could get their stance
and their grip and their sight alignmentand everything. And they're not hitting the

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target. And I'm saying, andI look at it, and I just
everything else is right. It's theway they press the trigger is causing.
In that little brief, little millisecondbetween pressing the trigger and the bullet coming
out of the barrel, they aremoving the front sight and they're doing it
by the way they press the triggerwith their finger. And now, Kevin,

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I hand it to you. Whatwhat is in this little box?
It's a box about the size ofa hearing like the phony, like a
little foamy box. It's about thatbig, and it's a ring that goes
on your trigger finger. Tell themwhat tell us more to be specific,
it goes between your main knuckle,your fist knuckle and your first finger knuckles

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and let's say knuckle one and two, okay, all right, And it
has lobes, has a little highpoint, it has high points. So
if you turn it, depending onhow you have it turned on, your
finger right will either have a low, a medium, and a high right.
Is that right? Yes, exactly, okay. And so what it

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does is it stabilizes and isolates becauseall our lives we've been closing our fist
grabbing something, the brew handle,you know, somebody, and that pulling
to the left, all those fingersgoing to the left for right hander,
I'll speak in terms of right hander, and that pulls the gun. That

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upsets the sightline on a pistol especially, and so it then the lobe goes
against the gun frame. Simply isolatethe from knuckle two to the tip and
it becomes that becomes then an independentmotion. In fact, I've watched guys
who can't barely hit the center oftarget within a magazine or two their pattern,

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their group just moves right up centerbecause they pull left. Yeah,
I have I have seen it evenfaster than because I'm an instructor. I've
seen it instantly. I mean literallywith the next shot after wearing this.
But I mean, if you thinkabout it, if you put your finger,
look everybody in in radio land putyour finger out now and move your

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whole finger so it touches your thumbor whatever. That's how a lot of
people are pressing the trigger. Nowhold it straight up and isolate that,
you know, from from the handto that first knuckle, and don't let
that part move. Just let thethe two the two topwo top knuckles move
and that's it. And that's whatthis ring does instantly. It's super lightweight.

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It's what is it made. It'smade out of celicononnis, yes,
yeah, and hyperlogens. So nowyou've had some rather famous, well known
people review this, and what ifthey say? And who who's like some
of the famous people that you've hadreview this and put it on their website.
Well, I'd say the most famousis Lenny McGill at the Gluck Store

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out in Nashville, Tennessee. Yeah. When I was researching this, I
actually found his video. He literallyand what did I tell you? I
don't know you you brought it.We're at your house, you handed it
to me. You're taking me intomy house. And I go, this
is like two o'clock in the afternoonon Wednesday, and I'm like, crap,
there goes my afternoon. Yeah,you do other stuff, and you

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decided to pull the stuff to doso drone the drone. It's now a
new thing. And now we haveto figure out you know, it's what
what what's her name? Cammy?No, okay, no at at at
Yeah, Cammy with the with thesuccess in education on shields. She says,
just don't paint that thing orange becauseyeah, I guess at those part

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play sued. Hey, welcome backto gun Radio, Utah, and uh
boy, those those things went fast, Kevin, Kevin's perfect pull. Things
went fast, Kevin. So wehad three callers call in, gave their
information to Mark and what are theygoing to get? What are they what
are they going to receive? Theywill receive one of each size that we
have available, an extra large,a large, and a medium. Now

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there is a small size coming.Like you've said, this is so new,
Yeah, this is this is new, new state of the art,
all right. And and if aretailer wants to have a sample, absolutely
in. Yeah, okay, Sogive us some give us some ways for
people retailers to contact you sale onthe website, sell it perfect pollusa dot

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com or use my email Kevin atperfect poll usa dot com. Having a
perfect pollusa dot com. You canget you a little sample if you're a
retailer and that kind of stuff,and we can give you pricing and so
forth. So pretty really just acool product. Now answer my question,
Kevin, Yes, do I haveto carry this thing with me on like
a little chain or always have iton my finger in case I get into

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an engagement or something? What?No? No, No. If you
drive fire at actually a fairly minimalamount but a few minutes, several times
a week, you will begin tofeel You'll feel the difference in your trigger
finger immediately, but you'll start totrain it so as you holster a gun,
let's say you're the tip of yourtrigger finger will fall right on to

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the trigger the way it's supposed toyour training. It's smercial memory, absolutely
and you'll eventually don't need it.But you know what, people that I've
had testing this product for a whileand myself I still shoot with a live
well, and here's the great thingwhat I like about this And during the
hunting season, I mean we spenda lot of money on our hunting gear.

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Okay, we buy these carbon fibertripods, you know, shooting sticks
and everything. But if you know, to help stabilize a gun, so
we get the great perfect shot.And I'll tell you, if you're a
long range shooter, you need totry this will make this, this will
improve your shooting. And the thingis is if I'm out in the field
and I don't have my sticks withme, this helps perfect that shot so

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much more. And I just soonhave this on my finger then lugging around
a pair of you know, shootingsticks around. One of my early testers,
a good friend of mine, wasa competitive shooter and shotgun for about
fifteen years now. He shoots long. I have seen him hit a mile
target down outside of Mantai at aprivate range. Yeah, but he helped

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me develop this, Oh did he? Yeah? Absolutely? Yeaheah no that
he's a pistol guy too. Butthis is a no brainer for you know,
for you know, hunting, duckhunters, pheasant hunters. I can
see game. I can see newcouples getting engaged with this absolutely just using
this as their as their ring.All right. Uh, you know where
I actually saw it. This ismy segue into this. Okay, I

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saw that. You know, thethe gunsmith at Sportsman's Warehouse that we talk
about, They have a like alittle pro shop right there at the gunsmith
at Sportsman's Warehouse sixteen thirty South fiftyseventy West, sixteen thirty South fifty seventy
west eight to one three zero foureighty seventy. They literally had his info

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and the and you had a flyerand uh, the perfect polls they're at
there. When I when I wasthere this last week, awesome. Yeah,
And I said, hey, we'regoing to have this guy on the
radio. And so do you haveanything else to add into that? Oh
yeah I do. If you needyour if your if your spouse has flown
your drone into your gun and chippedup the stock or messed it up,

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or your street sweeper stops sweeping,oh yeah, the street sweeper needs a
cleaning. Yeah. And so yeah, you can whatever you need done to
your gun. I mean, likeI always get on the Sarah coding because
I love the Sarah coding it.But you're going to get engraving, rebluing,
refinishing, and every part of thegun. But even if you don't
know what's wrong with it. Youcan get it in there. If you

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need your if if you need themuscle threaded for a loudener or a silencer
suppress or whatever, you have amuscle break, get it over to the
gunsmith sixteen thirty South fifty seventy WesternSalt Lake. Give them a call at
eight to one three zero four eightyseventy, or take it into any of
the over one hundred and forty sixSportsman's Warehouse locations. They will get it
to you and get it right backto them when it's done. Now,

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normally I do that right before thebreak, but we're not going to what
what was that? What was thatmotion for? Let's go into the gallop?
All right, let's go questions.A Gallop a very widely recognized long
time polling organization. And was therea guy named Gallup? I wonder maybe?

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Yeah. Anyway, so they theyif you just type in gallop and
most important problem. They have beendoing this for, like I said,
forty fifty years or so, andthey ask on a nowadays they ask on
almost a monthly basis, what isthe most important problem. So they have

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they have all the data, allthe stats, and what do we say,
what was the one the most importantproblem problem as far as economy,
just economy, was the economy ingeneral and the non economic problems. The
government, poor leadership is a problem. Then it's immigration, Then it's poverty,

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hunger, homeless, and then abortionand elections, and that takes up
anywhere from twenty one percent, eighteenpercent, six percent, and abortion was
at four percent, all right,so and then it just and then they
list what was that bill two abortionsat two percent? Oh excuse me,
yeah, one month it was okay, So I was looking at the may

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all right. So as they godown now most important problem, you would
think that guns would have been thenumber one problem. I mean, my
gosh, Vivic Murphy, the thethe general in charge of the CDC Tanks
and missiles is saying that it's anepidemic bill, it's an epidemic. Well,

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what percentage of people say that gunsor gun control? It's at one,
it's it's at one. And beforethat, and before that, in
the months before that, it wasan asterisk. And the asterisk means it
was it was insignificant. It wasinsignificantly, you know. So you've got

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education, the media, gun control, children's needs, terrorism and welfare,
LGBQ rights, those all are inthat same category. And then in addition,
police brutality, over population, energylack of energy sources, and LGBT
rights and welfare were the ones thatwere were also on the same line as

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guns and gun rights. But youwould think it would be like the number
one thing or the number two thing. Did you notice in the debate that
you know, the the let's getready to mumble debate, that not one,
not one time did they come upwith guns? All right? So,
Bill, you made as looking atsome of the things that were top

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top tier in Americans minds and lookingat some of the things that were bottom
bottom tier, you made an interestingobservation. If you take this list and
it goes top tier down to downto insignificant not significant, and flip it
upside down, that's what our governmentis focused on most right, Well,

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that this government, this administration isthe insignificant things and trying to making the
little things that are nothing something bigand just flipping it. You're right,
You're right. When you look atit, it's it's police over LGBT rights,
welfare, guns, your rights needs, the things that the Americans think

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are not the problem. And yetwhat are they not talking about. They're
not talking about immigration, they're notaddressing abortion, they're not addressing elections and
election reform, and those are thethose are the things that are the top
leaders. But they're not addressing that'sthis administration. It's an interesting observation.

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Bill blew me out of the water. Thank you. I don't know what
your mic is too on. It'sis that it's on now here. We'll
turn everything on now, I'm on, now you're on. Thank you.
Okay. You know that's I havea lot of power. I have a
lot of power behind the button,and we've told you don't push the button.
Yeah, you know, I reallywant to thank I really want to

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thank uh Kevin Clipper and Clipple excuseme Clipple. It's you know, Kevin.
There's two p's in your last name, I know, and that's perfect
pull. Isn't that strange? Ijust somebody pointed that out to me.
Yeah, I think it's pretty cool. We want to thank Kevin Clipple with
perfect pull us A for coming inhere and for giving out freebies. Because

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there's one thing, there's two thingsthat our listeners like is free and complimentary.
Yeah, so uh hey, uhit is un violence a public health
issue. VIVEC. Murphy, thegeneral of the CDC, is saying that
it's not. Now, you knowwhat. In twenty twenty one, he

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was interviewed for his appointment to headthe CDC. To head the CDC,
he was interviewed for I don't know, I think it's number three, is
that right? Bill? So anyway, he was interviewed and said, and
the senators asked him, are yougoing to be because we know your history

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is anti gun and are you goingto be promoting are you going to use
this as a bully pulpit as yourown little microphone to promote gun control?
Oh no, no, no,no, I'm going to talk about OBECI,
I'm going to talk about drug use. I'm going to talk about you
know, mental health and that kindof thing. Oh okay, And he
kept saying that. He literally saidhe was not going to use this as

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a bully pulpit. That was intwenty twenty one. Well, he got
the job, and he's probably gotthat job until this administration. It rides
into the sunset and he's talking aboutguns and he's making the he's trying to
relate guns that are such a problem. Apparently that you know, four hundred

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million Americans have guns, or there'sfour hundred excuse me, four hundred million
guns are out there amongst the population, and it's a it's an epidemic,
Bill, So was it? Nowcall it epidemic or is it a pandemic?
Now think about this if if theywant to get crazy, you know,
we can all remember what happened duringthe COVID years. Oh you mean,

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so do you think they're going tohandle this as well as they handled
COVID. If this is the wayto get Biden to make an executive decision
before he's out, maybe this iswhat they're trying to do, is you
know, stir the dirt for someyou mean you mean closing down businesses,

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closing down schools, inoculations. Imean, well, now think about it,
because they used to say COVID wasn'tyour fault. It's just it's out
there. You didn't cause it,If you got it, it's not your
fault, and that kind of thing. That's what they're trying to say.
With guns. If you shoot somebody, if you kill somebody, Bill,
it's not your fault. It's theeasy access to guns. That's why you

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killed the person. So there againthey're trying to blame everybody but the criminal
with the gun. And so anyways, so vec Vivic Murphy is saying,
you know that that that's they wantto treat this like an epidemic. So

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I don't know, maybe there aregoing to be inoculations in closing this down.
So a lot of folks have comeout and said, no, it's
not a Well, if it werean epidemic, it would be it would
be nationwide, right, Oh,guns were the epidemic work wide worldwide?
All right, let's just I meanno guns in Canada would be exempter Mexico.

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You know, is this disease prolitherateseverywhere? Okay? So so apparently,
so I was looking at this andthat says they cite data. That's
what health departments do. The CDCdoes, is they cite data to determine
the seriousness of a public health issue. And what they do is they use
a cause specific mortality data. Okay, And and so what they're saying is,

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hey, lot of stuff here andit's happening here, and they can
kind of track it and they canlook okay, and it's and the cause
specific mortality, right is the numberof deaths from a specified cause per one
hundred thousand. And we know thatwe know that number, that type of
thing, okay, and they alwaysuse it per hundred thousand. So with

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that that in mind, let's lookat the numbers, right, and where
we have Utah at two point twohomicides per hundred thousand. Okay, well,
now, but we have but nowso we have a loan number.
But why do we have a loannumber because we have little few guns per

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one hundred thousand. No, justthe opposite. We have everything we can
possibly have in more. We haveobviously handguns, no waiting periods, no
back you know, no universal backgroundchecks, no one gun a month,
no assault weapon bands, no magazinerestrictions, no waiting periods, no anything.

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It's a free for all, allright. And I mean casey Jane
shooting off her back porch, allright, right there. So that's Utah
and we have two point two.Now let's take a state that pretty much
has everything you can possibly have asto restrictions on guns. California, California.
I'm gonna pick California. Yeah,okay, So using their logic that

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they want you know that the gunsare the problem. California should be pretty
low, right, they're three timesare homicide rate, they're three times at
Bill, that's just it. No, Well the hell Tuesday. So yeah,
and so if you want to ifyou want to look at it in
a laboratory sense, if you wantto start using medical terms and and and

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control groups and blah blah blah,don't leave Utah the mix. We're fourth
lowest and homicide we're fourth lowest inthis nation. And and we have a
ton of guns and machine guns andcrazy change sweeping guns, and we know
people with tanks. Yeah, hey, Bill, tell us about Utah Shooting

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Sports Council before we head out.Yeah, so to get more information,
to learn where Clark and I hangout the most, as well as all
of our directors, go to UtahShooting Sportscouncil dot org. Make you sure
you sign up for our email alerts, and keep your eyes out on the
website. We're making some changes.I think you'll be seeing upcoming changes on
our website. Yeah, changes changesten years, next, ten years,

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ten years, Bill, ten years, Holy cow, Hey, don't burn
your finger this next week when youcelebrate fourth of July. Make sure you
carry your nineteen eleven proudly, andwe'll be back next week. Burn your
finger let you're talking about Fourth ofJuly fireworks? Oh yeah, you can't
light them in commodites, No,we can, and you into yeah,