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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the studio right now. Candice and Derek Russell,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Well, thank you for being here now. I know that
you both your family has such a deep connection to
Sunrise Children's Hospital. I'd love for you to be able
to share your story with everybody listening today, if you
don't mind diving into that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Absolutely so. For us, our journey began about three years
ago with our firstborn son, Levi. He was born as
a micro premi at twenty four weeks, so he was
quite little. He has our little one pound eleven ounce
baby and so with his extreme prematurity, being so little,
it comes a lot of complications. So he did have
(00:40):
quite a bit going on with him, and the facility
at the time told us they gave us an option
on two things that we could do. Was either to
move him because of how little he was, palliative care
or transfer him to another place that would have higher care,
which was Sunraised Children's Hospital. Okay, parents, as first time parents,
(01:01):
actually we wanted to give the best. We wanted to
get him the best care, but then we also wanted
to give him, you know, the chance to fight and
so we decided to move him to Sunrise, and Levi
ended up only being with us for an additional five days,
but within those five days at being at Sunrise Children's
Hospital was the best care that he had ever received
(01:24):
in the month that he had lived.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And it's because of him that we've decided that if
we were to have more children, that we would deliver
at Sunrise Children's Hospital. Okay, and no brainer for yours, yes,
and not that we wanted another premature child, of course.
But a year later, exactly a year same weekend, I
delivered Asher, his brother Wow at twenty five weeks Okay,
(01:49):
at home, all right. And so because he was delivered
at home, he was at a facility.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
That was closest to us.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
He had to be because it was an emergency, we
weren't able to get to Sunrise, okay, which was our
our or you know what we wanted your goal, Yes,
our goal was to be at Sunrise. And so he
did get transferred a few weeks later, and that's when
the doctor that took care of Levi or Nick, you
doctor remembered who we were, took us under our wing
(02:17):
and said, nope, you're coming with me. He's going to
be in the micro Premie unit and you are pretty
much she said, you're stuck with me and we're going
to get him home.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Wow, Asher is home with us, So I feel like, well,
just to know that that happened one year part. Obviously,
Asher is an angel, and your doctor and care team
as well, the right real life living angels now navigating
a world of you know, not just one but two
micro premies. Obviously very very tough. Now, can you elaborate
(02:48):
more about the level of care that you received from
Sunrise Children's Hospital that you feel really sets them apart
from maybe other hospitals out there.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, goodness, it's it's a night and day difference. I mean,
with micropremius there comes so many complications and both boys
had very similar things go on with their heart. We
had a big thing going on with his brain even
especially with our first and some intestinal things as well,
and so when it came to care, they were always
(03:18):
on top of it. They were making sure that Asher
was getting what he needed, that if he needed an
X ray done, they do it right away. They would
talk with us through the process of what they were doing,
and so if we had questions, they didn't have any
sort of like push We never got any pushback. It
(03:39):
was like they would answer it and be honest with
us of what was going on. And with Levi, we
kind of already knew a little bit about the micropremie
world and what the nikki was about. Sure, so having
that knowledge helped us be able to connect with our
doctors even more, to be able to talk about like
what's going on? Right, So I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That compassion was that right from you know, working with
anybody in the medical world. Right, there's these big terms
that people throw around. There's these things you're like, I
didn't go for the school for this, Like how am
I supposed to understand this? How can you talk to
me like a real person. But from what I'm hearing,
it sounds like they just navigated that journey at Sunrise
(04:20):
with you like you were a friend, you were a
part of their family.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And yeah, yeah, and they treated us like family. They
treated my son as if they were their own. I
would take care of him when we weren't able to
be there because we, you know, my husband had to
go back to work, we had to go back and
I was solely there by myself. So it was nice
when I needed a break, because it can be a
lot for parents to go through that. Yeah, the nurses
(04:44):
were just you felt so comfortable you could leave your child. Sure,
And that's what I think sets them apart, is that
I could go and run an errand or step away
for a moment to grab a coffee because I felt
so comfortable knowing that they were taking such good care
of my son. Oh, I can't even imagine that, right,
Just that peace of mind that that provides a family,
you know, especially parents that are so worried. Now, how
(05:05):
long in total was Ashure in the nick you at
Sunrise Children's Hospital. Yeah, so he was in the nick
you for one hundred and two days?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Wow? Wow, So from July to October. Okay, we were.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Quite nervous, I have to say, bringing you know, a
baby home from the tiny, little fragile, little oxygen baby.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, no, of course. And then the changing of the season,
the summer Vegas right to fall, like the transitions, and
the amount of time that your family, you know, had
to have him there. But that one hundred and two
days along the way, you know, please share, you know
what got you through those those nights At the end
of the day when you're worry about Asher all day
(05:46):
and then you finally lay down in your own bed,
put your head down on a pillow, Like, what's what
got you through to be able to wake up for
another day and get back out there, to be there
at sunrise? To be there with Asher? Like what gets
you through nights like that?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think the medical team on staff. So like our doctor,
when we knew that she was working, we were comfortable
and we could easily sleep at night. Sure, and then
especially with all the nurses and stuff there. But for me,
that was what helped us, helped me go to bed
at night, was knowing that they were there watching him.
(06:19):
I didn't have to worry because when we're there, we
watch all the monitors, yes, and hear all the beeps.
But knowing that they're there right definitely made me feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Like we said earlier, you're your angels there. They're angels.
The medical staff at Sunrise to be able to provide
that level of comfort for parents is incredible. Can the
same for you? Or I got you through it?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Oh goodness, my husband, I'm sitting right next to me.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I loved our son. We just we knew he was
a fighter and his older brother was looking out for him. Yes,
and of course I wanted to make sure he gets home.
And the team too. I mean, the nurses and doctors
are absolutely incredible. And even if our doctor wasn't there,
you know, the nurses made up comfortable to where we could,
you know, be able to get a good night's rest,
(07:04):
and they would tell us multiple times to get a
good night rest because it was going to change once
he comes home.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Right, Yes, that's it. Right, Like you said, one hundred
and two days with the best care in the city,
and then you're going home. You're like, how am I
going to manage this myself? Now, let's give a little
Asher update. How old is Asher? Now? How's he doing?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
He's doing really well. He's about a year and a half,
so he'll be two in July. Okay, so we are,
I would say, just a tabot behind on milestones, but
we're okay, we're rocking it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So he goes to physical therapy and speech and the
happiest baby you'll ever meet, that's what they would say
in the nick you two, he's the happiest little one.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So of that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But he's doing really, really good, and we can't. I mean,
we're so thankful, of course, I can't even imagine. Now,
is there anything that you would maybe like to say
if you're doctors and nurses and no one, No one's
popping out right now. But if they were here, the
ones who cared for your son at Sunrise Childn's Hospital,
what would you want to tell them?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
What do you want to say to them?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Thank you for everything that they do making us feel
comfortable going home at night. When we're in the hospital,
we would advocate for Asher and they would advocate for us.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
They would look at all the small details, making sure
that everything's being looked at so then we can take
our son home at the end.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Of the.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Sure. I love that a medical team that you feel
advocates for you. Like, that's powerful stuff right there. Do
you feel the same, Mama? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I do.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I do.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
They're just absolutely incredible And I could spend all day
chatting about them and we would be sitting here for hours.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Some of their name let's let's let's shout them out.
Let's let's talk about some of their names.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Who are that I didn't know if we were allowed
to or not, otherwise I would be saying them please do.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yes, yes, tell, let's shout out.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Right now, my goodness, I mean the one that that
helped us get our son home.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yes, of course please or Lipsky, doctor Lipsky. Yeah, yeah,
she was.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Amazing and we still are in contact with her even
outside of the nick you yep, she checks in with us.
We would bring Asher for some appointments, yeah, right at
the at the hospital and she'd meet us outside to
come and see him.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So absolutely, yeah, And I bet you've brought back Asher
Sinse to see doctor Lski and the staff. That's special
for them too. Write you can't even probably imagine, like
you're so grateful to them, and then the staff at
Sunrise Children's Hospital, but they're so grateful for you to
bring back your miracle right like that was such a
time that they're never going to forget as well. Now,
(09:36):
anybody who you know is listening right now and is
thinking about where in town should I have my baby?
I know your answer here, but why Sunrise Children's Hospital
is it for you? Why is that the answer?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Definitely? Sunrise would be my go to. We tell all
friends and family to Sunrise because you don't know if
you're gonna have applications with a full term baby, or
if you deliver early and Sunrise is the best place
to go for all levels of care and you know
your baby's gonna come home at the end of it.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Right when it comes to the care of your child,
we highly recommend Sunrise and that's where we will be
for when that time comes to have another Sure we
will be right there at Sunrise.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I think that's the best recommendation, is that you would
go and do it all over again despite what you've
gone through, right Like, it's one of those situations where
it's a traumatic experience for families, but you didn't. You
don't have those traumatic feelings with the hospital, right Like,
that's so important, I think and says so much. Now,
one final quick question for you both. You know, having
a child in the nick you know, it's a tough
(10:45):
thought in world for anybody to navigate right in their headspace.
But for any expectant parent out there, or maybe a
parent who does think about that situation, or who maybe
had a tough time the first time and wants to
do this again but maybe a little bit scared, is
there any advice or words of win them that you
can provide you know a parent out there who just
may be nervous about, you know, having a child who
(11:06):
is born with complications or born early. Anything you can share,
you know, I think that's the advice, real world advice
from people who've lived it is the most important stuff.
So I'd love to hear what you would tell those parents.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, I mean, oh goodness, it's I mean a whirlwind
of Yeah, it's crazy. But for those that are just
thinking of thinking about you know that there's a possibility
that something may happen. Yeah, I don't even know what
to say, to be honest, I mean there's so much
(11:38):
I could say.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Sure, It's what I'm getting from you both, is that
no matter what, like, there's a purpose right for it,
for everybody, for every family. Because I think your story
is so incredible because of what happened one year apart.
Most people could never get over something like that in
a lifetime. But the fact that you guys, felt like
you were so cared for, so love so protected by
(12:00):
your angel and the incredible staff at Sunrise. You wanted
to do it again. You didn't want to give up.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, I mean I if I backtrack a little bit, Yeah,
because I before Levi actually miscarried. Sure, and so doing
like having that was was tough because when you go
through something like that, you're like, oh, like, could I
have another?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And so we had Levi. But then after I delivered
Levi and we lost him. Yeah, I said, could I
do it again? Of course, because I wanted a baby
in my arms.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes, I understand that. So and you didn't give up, Mama, No,
you guys didn't give up. You stayed strong and look
what happened. And I think sometimes being able to share
journeys along the way is only going to help women
who can't say that kind of stuff out loud. Yet
you know there's a lot of women out there, a
lot of families and men too. And don't forget about you,
(12:54):
Derek and all and all the other husbands and partners
out there that this also affects. Right. So I can't
thank you both enough for sharing your journey, your story,
your miracle. I can't wait for more incredible miracles to
happen along your journey along the way. And thank you
for sharing the incredible care and compassion that Sunrise Children's
(13:14):
Hospital provided your family.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Thank you
Welcome to the studio right now. Candice and Derek Russell,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Well, thank you for being here now. I know that
you both your family has such a deep connection to
Sunrise Children's Hospital. I'd love for you to be able
to share your story with everybody listening today, if you
don't mind diving into that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Absolutely so. For us, our journey began about three years
ago with our firstborn son, Levi. He was born as
a micro premi at twenty four weeks, so he was
quite little. He has our little one pound eleven ounce
baby and so with his extreme prematurity, being so little,
it comes a lot of complications. So he did have
(00:40):
quite a bit going on with him, and the facility
at the time told us they gave us an option
on two things that we could do. Was either to
move him because of how little he was, palliative care
or transfer him to another place that would have higher care,
which was Sunraised Children's Hospital. Okay, parents, as first time parents,
(01:01):
actually we wanted to give the best. We wanted to
get him the best care, but then we also wanted
to give him, you know, the chance to fight and
so we decided to move him to Sunrise, and Levi
ended up only being with us for an additional five days,
but within those five days at being at Sunrise Children's
Hospital was the best care that he had ever received
(01:24):
in the month that he had lived.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And it's because of him that we've decided that if
we were to have more children, that we would deliver
at Sunrise Children's Hospital. Okay, and no brainer for yours, yes,
and not that we wanted another premature child, of course.
But a year later, exactly a year same weekend, I
delivered Asher, his brother Wow at twenty five weeks Okay,
(01:49):
at home, all right. And so because he was delivered
at home, he was at a facility.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
That was closest to us.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
He had to be because it was an emergency, we
weren't able to get to Sunrise, okay, which was our
our or you know what we wanted your goal, Yes,
our goal was to be at Sunrise. And so he
did get transferred a few weeks later, and that's when
the doctor that took care of Levi or Nick, you
doctor remembered who we were, took us under our wing
(02:17):
and said, nope, you're coming with me. He's going to
be in the micro Premie unit and you are pretty
much she said, you're stuck with me and we're going
to get him home.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Wow, Asher is home with us, So I feel like, well,
just to know that that happened one year part. Obviously,
Asher is an angel, and your doctor and care team
as well, the right real life living angels now navigating
a world of you know, not just one but two
micro premies. Obviously very very tough. Now, can you elaborate
(02:48):
more about the level of care that you received from
Sunrise Children's Hospital that you feel really sets them apart
from maybe other hospitals out there.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, goodness, it's it's a night and day difference. I mean,
with micropremius there comes so many complications and both boys
had very similar things go on with their heart. We
had a big thing going on with his brain even
especially with our first and some intestinal things as well,
and so when it came to care, they were always
(03:18):
on top of it. They were making sure that Asher
was getting what he needed, that if he needed an
X ray done, they do it right away. They would
talk with us through the process of what they were doing,
and so if we had questions, they didn't have any
sort of like push We never got any pushback. It
(03:39):
was like they would answer it and be honest with
us of what was going on. And with Levi, we
kind of already knew a little bit about the micropremie
world and what the nikki was about. Sure, so having
that knowledge helped us be able to connect with our
doctors even more, to be able to talk about like
what's going on? Right, So I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That compassion was that right from you know, working with
anybody in the medical world. Right, there's these big terms
that people throw around. There's these things you're like, I
didn't go for the school for this, Like how am
I supposed to understand this? How can you talk to
me like a real person. But from what I'm hearing,
it sounds like they just navigated that journey at Sunrise
(04:20):
with you like you were a friend, you were a
part of their family.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And yeah, yeah, and they treated us like family. They
treated my son as if they were their own. I
would take care of him when we weren't able to
be there because we, you know, my husband had to
go back to work, we had to go back and
I was solely there by myself. So it was nice
when I needed a break, because it can be a
lot for parents to go through that. Yeah, the nurses
(04:44):
were just you felt so comfortable you could leave your child. Sure,
And that's what I think sets them apart, is that
I could go and run an errand or step away
for a moment to grab a coffee because I felt
so comfortable knowing that they were taking such good care
of my son. Oh, I can't even imagine that, right,
Just that peace of mind that that provides a family,
you know, especially parents that are so worried. Now, how
(05:05):
long in total was Ashure in the nick you at
Sunrise Children's Hospital. Yeah, so he was in the nick
you for one hundred and two days?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Wow? Wow, So from July to October. Okay, we were.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Quite nervous, I have to say, bringing you know, a
baby home from the tiny, little fragile, little oxygen baby.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, no, of course. And then the changing of the season,
the summer Vegas right to fall, like the transitions, and
the amount of time that your family, you know, had
to have him there. But that one hundred and two
days along the way, you know, please share, you know
what got you through those those nights At the end
of the day when you're worry about Asher all day
(05:46):
and then you finally lay down in your own bed,
put your head down on a pillow, Like, what's what
got you through to be able to wake up for
another day and get back out there, to be there
at sunrise? To be there with Asher? Like what gets
you through nights like that?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think the medical team on staff. So like our doctor,
when we knew that she was working, we were comfortable
and we could easily sleep at night. Sure, and then
especially with all the nurses and stuff there. But for me,
that was what helped us, helped me go to bed
at night, was knowing that they were there watching him.
(06:19):
I didn't have to worry because when we're there, we
watch all the monitors, yes, and hear all the beeps.
But knowing that they're there right definitely made me feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Like we said earlier, you're your angels there. They're angels.
The medical staff at Sunrise to be able to provide
that level of comfort for parents is incredible. Can the
same for you? Or I got you through it?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Oh goodness, my husband, I'm sitting right next to me.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I loved our son. We just we knew he was
a fighter and his older brother was looking out for him. Yes,
and of course I wanted to make sure he gets home.
And the team too. I mean, the nurses and doctors
are absolutely incredible. And even if our doctor wasn't there,
you know, the nurses made up comfortable to where we could,
you know, be able to get a good night's rest,
(07:04):
and they would tell us multiple times to get a
good night rest because it was going to change once
he comes home.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Right, Yes, that's it. Right, Like you said, one hundred
and two days with the best care in the city,
and then you're going home. You're like, how am I
going to manage this myself? Now, let's give a little
Asher update. How old is Asher? Now? How's he doing?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
He's doing really well. He's about a year and a half,
so he'll be two in July. Okay, so we are,
I would say, just a tabot behind on milestones, but
we're okay, we're rocking it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So he goes to physical therapy and speech and the
happiest baby you'll ever meet, that's what they would say
in the nick you two, he's the happiest little one.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So of that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But he's doing really, really good, and we can't. I mean,
we're so thankful, of course, I can't even imagine. Now,
is there anything that you would maybe like to say
if you're doctors and nurses and no one, No one's
popping out right now. But if they were here, the
ones who cared for your son at Sunrise Childn's Hospital,
what would you want to tell them?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
What do you want to say to them?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Thank you for everything that they do making us feel
comfortable going home at night. When we're in the hospital,
we would advocate for Asher and they would advocate for us.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
They would look at all the small details, making sure
that everything's being looked at so then we can take
our son home at the end.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Of the.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Sure. I love that a medical team that you feel
advocates for you. Like, that's powerful stuff right there. Do
you feel the same, Mama? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I do.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I do.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
They're just absolutely incredible And I could spend all day
chatting about them and we would be sitting here for hours.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Some of their name let's let's let's shout them out.
Let's let's talk about some of their names.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Who are that I didn't know if we were allowed
to or not, otherwise I would be saying them please do.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yes, yes, tell, let's shout out.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Right now, my goodness, I mean the one that that
helped us get our son home.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yes, of course please or Lipsky, doctor Lipsky. Yeah, yeah,
she was.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Amazing and we still are in contact with her even
outside of the nick you yep, she checks in with us.
We would bring Asher for some appointments, yeah, right at
the at the hospital and she'd meet us outside to
come and see him.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So absolutely, yeah, And I bet you've brought back Asher
Sinse to see doctor Lski and the staff. That's special
for them too. Write you can't even probably imagine, like
you're so grateful to them, and then the staff at
Sunrise Children's Hospital, but they're so grateful for you to
bring back your miracle right like that was such a
time that they're never going to forget as well. Now,
(09:36):
anybody who you know is listening right now and is
thinking about where in town should I have my baby?
I know your answer here, but why Sunrise Children's Hospital
is it for you? Why is that the answer?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Definitely? Sunrise would be my go to. We tell all
friends and family to Sunrise because you don't know if
you're gonna have applications with a full term baby, or
if you deliver early and Sunrise is the best place
to go for all levels of care and you know
your baby's gonna come home at the end of it.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Right when it comes to the care of your child,
we highly recommend Sunrise and that's where we will be
for when that time comes to have another Sure we
will be right there at Sunrise.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I think that's the best recommendation, is that you would
go and do it all over again despite what you've
gone through, right Like, it's one of those situations where
it's a traumatic experience for families, but you didn't. You
don't have those traumatic feelings with the hospital, right Like,
that's so important, I think and says so much. Now,
one final quick question for you both. You know, having
a child in the nick you know, it's a tough
(10:45):
thought in world for anybody to navigate right in their headspace.
But for any expectant parent out there, or maybe a
parent who does think about that situation, or who maybe
had a tough time the first time and wants to
do this again but maybe a little bit scared, is
there any advice or words of win them that you
can provide you know a parent out there who just
may be nervous about, you know, having a child who
(11:06):
is born with complications or born early. Anything you can share,
you know, I think that's the advice, real world advice
from people who've lived it is the most important stuff.
So I'd love to hear what you would tell those parents.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, I mean, oh goodness, it's I mean a whirlwind
of Yeah, it's crazy. But for those that are just
thinking of thinking about you know that there's a possibility
that something may happen. Yeah, I don't even know what
to say, to be honest, I mean there's so much
(11:38):
I could say.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Sure, It's what I'm getting from you both, is that
no matter what, like, there's a purpose right for it,
for everybody, for every family. Because I think your story
is so incredible because of what happened one year apart.
Most people could never get over something like that in
a lifetime. But the fact that you guys, felt like
you were so cared for, so love so protected by
(12:00):
your angel and the incredible staff at Sunrise. You wanted
to do it again. You didn't want to give up.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, I mean I if I backtrack a little bit, Yeah,
because I before Levi actually miscarried. Sure, and so doing
like having that was was tough because when you go
through something like that, you're like, oh, like, could I
have another?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And so we had Levi. But then after I delivered
Levi and we lost him. Yeah, I said, could I
do it again? Of course, because I wanted a baby
in my arms.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes, I understand that. So and you didn't give up, Mama, No,
you guys didn't give up. You stayed strong and look
what happened. And I think sometimes being able to share
journeys along the way is only going to help women
who can't say that kind of stuff out loud. Yet
you know there's a lot of women out there, a
lot of families and men too. And don't forget about you,
(12:54):
Derek and all and all the other husbands and partners
out there that this also affects. Right. So I can't
thank you both enough for sharing your journey, your story,
your miracle. I can't wait for more incredible miracles to
happen along your journey along the way. And thank you
for sharing the incredible care and compassion that Sunrise Children's
(13:14):
Hospital provided your family.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Thank you
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