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It's a beautiful Monday. Care ifI am six forty, It's Later with
Mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadioapp. Had a great weekend. I
hope you did as well. Iwas able to take in not one,
but two movies this weekend. Andyou know what I'm a fan of Later
with Mo Kelly, the show Iam. I never missed a show when
I can, I never miss it. You know. I scheduled my day
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around it so I could listen toit. And I was listening on Friday
week week and Mark Ronner, youknow, I hate giving him credit,
but good evening, Mark Ronner,Mo, you had a very fine review
of the movie Civil War. Ausgrudging as this sounds, I accept your
contract. I was already inclined towatch it. I was curious, but
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you saying how much you enjoyed itor how insightful it was pushed me over
the top. And I said Iwas going to see it before the weekend
was through. And I did seeit, and everything you said was accurate.
If you don't remember what Mark said, I encourage you to check it
out on the podcast. But there'ssome things that I can extract from what
he said. It is not apolitical movie in the sense of right and
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left, or it's not trying tomirror what is going on in the US
today. The movie does not getinto the politics on any real level.
You just know that there is athree term president who has obviously turned into
a dictator, and then factions ofthe country are moving against this president.
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That's all I want to say.It's not a very easy target or the
trolls. No, not at all. But what I when I say enjoyed,
I appreciated about the movie. Itsaid that, hey, this is
what a civil war could look likein the United States. It didn't It
didn't in any way romanticize it.It didn't sensationalize it. There was some
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really really difficult scenes to deal within that movie. Yeah, this is
what you're flirting with here, people, this is what it's going to look
like if you go another step.Yeah. There was no glory to be
found for anyone or by anyone,but it did remind us the importance of
how we tell history. Now.I was really tense throughout the whole thing.
Did you find it unsettling? Yes, yes, that's why I was
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texting you during the latter portions becauseit was. It was one of those
movies. Let me put it thisway. I always want to see something
in a movie that I haven't seenbefore. I want to feel something I
haven't felt before. I want toexperience something I haven't experienced before. And
I didn't necessarily know who to rootfor. I didn't know who was going
to make it until the end.I didn't know how far this movie was
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going to take it the subject matter, and I didn't know what I would
feel at the end. It's oneof those movies where you finish it and
you just sit and think, whereyou talk to someone about it. I
was still through it. Yeah,you're absolutely right. I was still processing
it even as I did my reviewof Friday Night. It sticks with you,
and it's not an easy movie todigest, and that's by design.
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I'm not going to say that you'regonna find yourself in that movie. And
it's intentionally ambigigitous ambiguous. As faras I got ambivalent and ambiguous mixed up,
it's intentionally ambiguous, and I'm ambivalentabout what I feel about it overall.
From a movie standpoint, loved it. Not everyone's going to love it.
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That's fine. It's not for everyone, and it's not meant to be
for everyone. But I was ambivalentbecause I didn't know who to root for.
And I talked about this with Markafterward. We were texting back and
forth, and I asked you onFriday, does it have an ending?
Does it tie things up? Yousee? And you made it me clear.
You made it clear that yes,it does have an ending. It
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definitely does have an ending. Andbut what I felt about the ending,
I wasn't sure. I was happyabout how the protagonists and antagonists fared in
the movie. Well it's not yourtypical right and off into the sunset type
of thing. And the movie,when I thought about it, really struck
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me as almost a horror movie,and I thought of Dawn of the Dead.
It did have that, Yeah,it did. There's a scene where
you're almost dystopian society, and itseems like it could have been plucked from
any zombie movie. Yeah, itwas a zombie movie without the zombies,
or you know, with with peoplekind of filling the zombie role. And
it's for you to decide, youknow, the rest for yourself. Do
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you remember when I text you,I said, oh, we're the monsters
in this movie. Where the kidyou in this movie. That is the
George romero a rule. It's neverreally the zombies who are the problem.
It's it's the people. It's thebad guys among the people who make it
harder to deal with the zombies.And I immediately texted Twall. I said,
twelve, you got to see it. He's not interested. He isn't
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here. No no, no,no no. It's it's quasi zombie movie,
so he'll be right there. Quasizombie. It's quasi quasi, yes,
quasi. It's a zombie movie withoutthe zombies. It has all the
elements, so it does get usprepared for what could happen if it has
to jump off. No zombies,but who I need to watch out for.
It's basically the zombie apocalypse without thezombies. It is the apocalypse.
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It's kind of like saying, youdon't really want this. You may you
may have enjoyed the last dozen seasonsof The Walking Dead, but you don't
want that. I promise you.Here's what it's gonna look like. That's
my key point. I think itpresents it in a way like you may
think that the idea of a secondcivil war is sexy, but it really
gets down to a granular level whatthat means, how your day to day
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life will or will not be impacted. What that You know, It's one
thing to watch it in I don'tknow, Syria or Sarajevo or Czechoslovakia.
It's another thing when it becomes alittle bit more real as in recognizable places.
And you know, fellow Americans,Yeah, we've had an extraordinary run
of good luck because we're isolated byan ocean on either side of it.
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So you know, the stuff that'sbeen going on Ukraine is totally foreign to
most people who are alive today,who never fought in Vietnam or anything like
that. This movie really goes forthe gun. I and we're going to
talk about this more obviously when wetalk about the box office returns. But
I said to Mark in the midstof watching it, I'm in the theater
and I said, this is aBest Picture nominee, hands down, easily
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easily. Have you seen anything evenremotely like this? That's why I said,
I always want to see something thatI haven't seen before, felt something
I haven't felt before. And it'sand if you go in there wanting your
political ideology or persuasion confirmed, youwill be sadly disappointed. That is handled
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so smartly. I really admire that. And I can kind of feel the
palpable exhaustion of Alex Garland when he'sdoing this interview gauntlet. I mean,
he's he's got to talk about andpromote the movie without completely giving it away,
right right, And I don't wantto give it away to any of
you. I highly encouraged to goout and watch it. Please hit me
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on social media let me know whatyou think about it. I've recommended for
Twala to see it. Stephan Omediatoo, like you hit me immediately like
all cats, you must watch this. Yes, yes, mo, I
think he buried the lead. Whatare you doing texting in the middle of
a movie? Were you offending thepeople sitting around you? Oh? No,
the theater was relatively empty. Ohthere's probably quiet. Yeah, it
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was very very quiet, relatively empty. I'm in the back like we usually
do, so there's no one tosee me or hear me texting. Okay,
so you weren't the bad guy inthis situation? No, no,
no no. And if you know, when you see the movie, there
is so much ordnance, gunfire,loud, especiallyody. No, sir,
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you gotta get your money's worth,so please do It's Later with Mo Kelly
if I am six forty we havea race for the White House. Update
when we come back. We're liveeverywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You're listening
to Later with Moe Kelly on demandfrom KFI AM six forty. Former President
Trump had a big day today.Today was the first day of the soul
called hush money trial, the criminaltrial in Manhattan, and you might have
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seen, i would say, theentrance and exit of the former president.
He had to sit at the actualtable. There were no cameras allowed as
far as video of the proceedings,but he did have a message for the
public when he exited. Nothing likethis has happened world, It's never been
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anything like it. Every legal scholarsaid this case is nonsense. It's never
been brought. It doesn't deserve anythinglike this. There is no case.
And they've said that people that don'tnecessarily follow or like Gow and Frum said
this is an alprat it said,this case was brought. This is political
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persecution. This is a persecution likenever before. Nobody's ever seen anything like
it, and again, it's acase that should have never been brought.
It's an assault in America, andthat's why I'm very ground to be here.
This is an assault of our countryand it's a country that's failing.
It's a country that's run by anincompetent man who's very much involved in this
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case. This is really an attackor a political opponent, that's all it
is. So I'm very honored tobe here, thank you very much.
To be clear, he will haveevery opportunity to make those arguments in a
court of law. Those aren't legalarguments, but he's allowed to make that
argument through his motions and filings.He's also allowed the opportunity to testify on
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his own behalf if he should wantthat opportunity. Just to also be clear,
most of the witnesses, in fact, all of the witnesses will either
be from his inner circle or formerinner circle. And this is mostly a
documentary evidence case, it's not atestimony case. They're going to be checks
and receipts and movement of money,and then there will be people who will
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be able to corroborate what someone knewor when they knew it, and where
they knew it. That's part ofit, and also be able to look
out for this because what is goingto be most difficult for former President Trump.
You might have seen him nodding offtoday and falling asleep in the proceedings.
He has to be present every dayof this trial, and the trial
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may last from six to eight weeks. This today was just the first day
of jury selection and no one passedmuster. No jurors were selected, So
tomorrow he'll have to be back there, and the day after that, and
the day after that he has tobe present at that defendant's table. And
that precludes him from going out andcampaigning, barnstorming as it were. It
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precludes him from having rallies. Itprecludes him from doing the things that he
probably would rather do. But onthe other hand, this is a part
of delaying the matter where it pushesit closer to the election. This was
supposed to start last month, andin fact, if there weren't delays by
the former president, this trial probablywould have been over at this point.
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But he will have his day incourt. More generally, for the presidential
general election. There's been a jointstatement from news organizations on presidential debates released
yesterday, and I can't read allof it, but I can read the
most salient passage, which is atthe end, and it says quote.
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Since nineteen eighty eight, the nonpartisanCommission on Presidential Debates has sponsored all presidential
general election debates. The Commission haspreviously announced dates, times, and eligibility
criteria for twenty twenty four debates.Though it is too early for invitations to
be extended to any candidates, itis not too early for candidates who expect
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to meet the eligibility criteria to publiclystate their support for and their intention to
participate in the Commission's debates planned forthis fall. If there is one thing
Americans can agree on during this polarizedtime, it is that the stakes of
this election are exceptionally high. Amidstthat backdrop, there is simply no substitute
for the candidates debating with each otherand before the American people their visions for
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the future of our nation. Closequote and signing on to this as ABC
News, The Associated Press, CBSNews, CNN, c SPAN, Fox
News Media, NBC, Universal Newsgroup, News Nation Notesius, Univico, NPR,
PBS News Hour, and USA Today. Now this is early because you
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wouldn't necessarily expect the debates until maybeafter the conventions, but they should debate.
I'm going to go out on alimb here and say they probably won't
debate for whatever reasons. But Idon't believe Donald Trump wants to debate.
Even though he says he wants todebate, He's had the opportunity to debate
previously and has turned that down.I don't think it's in his interests to
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debate. And I don't know whatthat means for President Biden, whether you
can have a debate in the senseof does President Biden then just have the
floor in front of a news organizationor do they scrap to the debates altogether.
I don't know how this turns out, but I don't think we're going
to have presidential debates this time around. It could be for any number of
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reasons. We don't necessarily know ona presidential former presidential Trump criminal trial where
any of those other indictments may sit. We don't necessarily know if the classified
documents trial would be underway in thenext few months. We don't necessarily know
about the January sixth trial, whetherthat would be underway. That's still being
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adjudicated, and to think that therewould be debates, three debates in that
and a vice presidential one. Oh, as a matter of fact, we
don't even know who the vice presidentialcandidate. Other person is going to be
on the ticket with former President Trump. And that's not necessarily unusual if you
know your history. Former candidate JohnMcCain didn't select Sarah Palin until late August,
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which was well after the convention.But he was not he was not
the incumbent, he was not previouslya president. And usually you're usually picking
someone or actually you're staying with someoneyou have, not changing to someone else.
You know, you would have thoughtonce upon a time that he would
have kept Mike Pence. But Iguess they had a falling out. They're
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not friends anymore. They're they're notcool like that. They're not they're not
bros. No, they're No,they're not tight like that. They don't
hang out. I don't think theycall. I don't think they text.
I don't think they talk. No, they're not texting each other from the
movie late at night. No,I don't don't. I don't. I
just get the sneaking suspicion that theydon't like each other all that much.
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I wonder how you could have gottenthat they had a falling out. There
was some misunderstanding, you know.Someone said will you call me? And
the other person said, will youhang me? Something like that. I
don't know what I think some gallowsdid play a role in them. Yeah,
and someone thought it was gallows ofa person thought it was gallows humor.
It was just misunderstanding. I'm quitesure it was not any ill will
intended between them. Oh, itwas a bottle of gallow wine, of
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course, that's it. That's right, Yeah, Ernest and Julio Gallo,
That's what it was. It's Laterwith Moe Kelly can if I AM six
forty. We're live everywhere on theiHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with
Moe Kelly on demand from kf IAm six forty. You know, by
now, Disney is planning to growits theme parks in the city of Anaheim,
and they touted their desire to spendat least one point nine billion dollars
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on its properties for growth of itsDisney infrastructure and also growing the city of
Anaheim in return. The project calleddisneyland Ford. We talked about it a
few times. Here is a fortyyear agreement, not four year, but
a forty four zero year agreement thatwill guide where and how development can occur.
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Disney CEO by Biger has said thecompany could increase the size of Disneyland
by fifty percent. And I thinka reasonable person say, well, how
is that possible Disneyland, you know, there's not like there's land that's going
to be created in and around Disneyland. How how are they supposed to do
that. Well, they're going torepurpose many portions of Disney properties all read
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in existence. That's part of it. But the part of the deal the
council members will be looking at andvoting on tomorrow is more than one hundred
million dollars in community benefits for thecity of Anaheim. Most of the money
is for infrastructure improvements. I'm talkingabout sewers, roads around the resort area
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and also streets, But Disney wouldalso give Anaheim thirty million dollars for affordable
housing and another eight million dollars forparks, you know, and the it
will be up to the city howthey want to use it. But here's
the big part. Disney would berequired to invest one point nine billion dollars
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into the resort within ten years.If it doesn't invest at least two point
five billion, it would be requiredto kick in another five million for the
city's benefit. I don't know wholoses in this. In other words,
the vote is tomorrow. I haveno reason to expect that they're going to
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vote no on this, because ifthere's another way you can say that this
is not a win win, Iwould love to hear it. Obviously,
the Disney Company is stable. It'snot like it's it's a fly by Night.
It's not like it's a It's FTX. It's not like it's going to
go bankrupt tomorrow. It's not likethat it's going to disappear off the face
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of the earth like NFTs. Nothinglike that. Disney has every reason to
make good with the city of Anaheimbecause we're talking for the next forty years
Disney, and we've talked to anumber of people over the past few months
about this. Disney has a longand I would say overall positive relationship,
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not perfect, but positive relationship withAdaheim. And if Disney's going to invest
that much money in the city ofAnaheim, and it doesn't sound like,
from what I read, and Isay this as someone who's lived in and
around Englewood and I know what bigtime development can do for people who already
live in the city. I'm justsaying, from what I can see,
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the Lion's share of the development wouldbe taking place inside the Disney Confines.
The Lions share not all of it, but most of it, and so
there would be less displacement of Anaheimresidents if I'm reading this correctly. Even
beyond that, the fact that theyare going to invest in more affordable housing
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and placing parks that is very strategic. The affordable housing is going to be
primarily made available for employees of Disneyas this property grows, as they have
to have more people working there whenthe park expands, they need to make
it more affordable for people to livenearby to drive a country mile to get
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there by making bringing in more parts. That also then puts more money in
infrastructure, into schools and everything,so everyone living there will see a benefit
from this. It's going to bringup the property values, not to Disney,
yeah, but everywhere property values,property taxes. Yeah, there's a
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plus minus give, give and takehere. And I think about this Tuala.
This is not something for you andme to enjoy. This is for
your grandchildren to enjoy forty years fromnow. Yeah, you know, this
is it. And I wonder whatdisney Land, that resort was going to
look like in five years. Isit constantly going to be under construction,
I guess so. I don't knowwhat that's going to look like. I
don't know whether it's going to feellike or how that's going to impact the
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whole Disney experience. But clearly thisis a plan which is going to extend
well into the twenty second century.When you think about when all of this
is done and all of it hasreshaped the landscape of Anaheim, it's weird
when when I say, you know, it's a win win for everyone.
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But I'm looking at this trying tofind some downside for the city of Anaheim,
because I'm always thinking about residents.I'm always thinking about actual people who
this will most impact on a dayto day basis. And if you at
Disney, the company has been verysmart in the sense of trying to almost
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predict some of the issues which wouldcome their way. You can't just expand
like a like a like a likea disease over the course of over,
you know, throughout the city,and not give something back in terms of
green space, parks, things ofthat nature. It can't just become an
urban concrete jungle, which we've seenin a lot of urban areas. And
if you're familiar with Anaheim, youdon't want it to lose the luster and
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feel of what it once was justfor the sake of corporate gain. But
you know, if I would loveto hear from someone who does not want
this to happen, or does notlike this, or feel it's as bad
for the city. Now. Iknow it's not going to be universally accepted.
I know it's not going to beuniversally loved. But if you're an
Anaheim City council person, on whatprinciple can you stand to say, Yeah,
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I'm going to vote this down andmake sure that we don't get any
of these millions and millions of dollars. I'm just going to stand on principle.
I don't know what that principle is. It's not principle. That's politics,
that's grand standing. Grandstanding. Yeah, yeah, if you just want
to be the one who's going todissent, I don't see how they're going
to vote this down. I don'texpect it to vote it down, but
this would seemingly, from what Isay, be good for the city of
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Anaheim. So that city council voteis tomorrow, and it's not just Anaheim
in the sense of the communities itwill impact if you think about larger Orange
County. As Disney goes, OrangeCounty does go in many instances. You
think about travel tourism, the amountof money which comes into Orange County,
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specifically because of Disneyland and other parksin the area and region. I just
don't see how this is something thatthey can realistically say no to. It's
like the offer that they literally can'trefuse. On six We're alive everywhere on
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the iHeartRadio app. And if youwere of the opinion that we had eradicated
measles around the country or here inCalifornia, you would be wrong. And
he'll check. The CDC is warningof a renewed threat to measles elimination in
the US. The federal agency hasreported more than one hundred and ten cases
just since January. That includes ninecases from an outbreak in the Philadelphia area.
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To put the current national total.In perspective, there were just fifty
eight measles cases reported in the nationin all of twenty twenty three. In
fact, going back to the yeartwo thousands measles were considered eliminated because there
were no outbreaks for at least atwelve month period. Would say measles is
a highly preventable disease because it isa safe and effective still preventable. National
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vaccine rates are below where they shouldbe. No anti vaccine views and conspiracies
have proliferationd No, there's no connectionthere. No, there's no correlation there.
Well, that was generally around thecountry, but one of those infected
individuals has now come to La County. La County health officials have learned of
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a confirmed case of measles and aperson who traveled to a number of locations
in La between March thirtieth and Aprilfirst. And it just reads like an
itinerary. This is where you mighthave been exposed if you happen to be
on these locations in the at theselocations on this given time. Saturday,
March thirtieth, Sheraton Gateway Hotel Gym, which is sixty one oh one West
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Century Boulevard between and eight am,probably hours after that. I'm quite sure
the disease hangs around for a while. Then this person evidently went to Denny's
at five five three five West CenturyBoulevard, worked out, took a shower,
then went to Dinny's. That's howyou do it. Then this person
seemingly went to Universal Studios hit booka dibppo about noon, then went to
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Cletus's Chicken Shack about four pm.Got hungry four hours later, left some
measles as a tip, then wentto lard Lad Doughnuts and the ec food
truck, but the food truck probablywas not there too long, probably left.
Then later that day went to Ginny'sSplendid ice Cream which is four four
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five North Beverly Drive, Beverly Hills. Again. This is March thirtieth,
Saturday, and then returned to theSheraton Gateway Hotel uh time not determined.
The next day, Sunday, Marchthirty, first waking up, went to
the gym Sheridan Gateway Hotel. Jim, you know you gotta got a stay
healthy with that measles. Between fivethirty and eight am, worked out for
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good two and a half hours thisis really weird. Mark would love to
get your thoughts on this. There'sa pattern here. Worked out the Sheraton
Gateway Hotel gym, then went andgot some trash food, then went to
Jack in the Box. Well yougot a balance. It come on at
eleven two seven West Manchester Boulevard inInglewood about eleven am. Then went to
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the Santa Monica Pier, went toPeer Gear and then later went to El
Toito Mexican restaurant and the in theMarina. Oh yeah, I like that
place. Yeah I did too.I love the love the measles trajectory.
I know, I'm just I lovefollowing the path to this person. It's
a really active day for mostly eating. And that was from six to a
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PM. And then returned to thehotel thereafter Sheraton Gateway Hotel. Then on
Monday, April first, No AprilFools got up early Sheraton Gateway Hotel,
did not go to the gym,but went to Denny's again because I guess
that's the spot to go when you'reon vacation at five five three five West
Century Boulevard if you think you wereexposed. Health officials also urged those with
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a potential exposure to contact and notifytheir healthcare provider as soon as possible.
If they are pregnant and infant,have a weakened immune system, and or
are not immunized regardless of vaccination history. Monitor yourself for illness with fever and
or a an unexplained rash. Andthe incubation period could be from seven to
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twenty one days after the exposure,So this is still within that. I
guess it was a gestation phase orincubation. I don't know what the terminology
is. The recommendation is to stayat home, avoid school, work in
any large gatherings. If symptoms dodevelop, call a healthcare provider immediately.
If you notice symptoms, do notenter a health care facility before letting the
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no. I think the only thingthis guy missed out on was going to
a crowded movie. Well, we'reassuming, We're assuming that this person is
being completely truthful and didn't stop itat a massage parlor for a happy inning.
You know, we're assuming, okay, because I'm not so sure that
a person is going to be forthrightwith all the places that he or she
hit while you know, being ameasles carrier. Yeah, and this ending's
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not going to be so happy.No, And if this person's on vacation,
they probably hit far more locations thanthe ones listed. And that even
just that alone was so specific,so specific, it didn't go anywhere in
between. You even stop off ofthe mall. You didn't get gassed,
you didn't get in an uber.I'm being serious. That's true too.
I didn't think about that. Howdid you get from A to B to
C? Really high fives for spreadingthe measles again, this is really impressive.
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We're number one, This is twentytwenty four, and we're back to
fighting the measles again. It doesn'tmake sense. Well, it does make
sense because there's a correlation. Ifyou don't believe in vaccinate, or if
you refuse to get vaccinated for measlesor whooping call for any of the other
radical smallpox eradicated diseases out there,then yeah, we're gonna deal with this
again. It's almost as if there'sbeen a wave of horrifying disinformation that gets
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people hurt and killed. Almost almostI don't want to pin it on that,
oh, you know, because peopledon't like fingers being pointed at them,
especially when they have measos on thetip. What about free speech?
You got to have the freedom totell people things that will get them killed
that are false. Yeah, thattoo, that too. It's it's weird.
I've never I've never connected my personalpolitics with my personal health. What
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it's never intersected, I don't know. I've just never connected the two.
I have never in my life connectedmy personal politics or my political ideology with
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my medical caregiving. You know,if I'm going to go to my primary
care physician, I am going todefer to doctor. Ye. Well,
how elitist do you? You soundlike the kind of woke elitist who has
never been to a mask burning party, didn't I tell you? I like
my doctor's elite, I like myattorney's elite. I like my pilots on
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the play elite, and I usuallydefer to the actual expert. I've watched
a lot of YouTube videos in mylife, a lot. They will never
ever compare to my doctor's medical degree. And now understanding that graveyards are absolutely
packed with people who did their ownresearch. Well, you know, I
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like to think of myself as kindof a smart guy, just kind of
smart, not very smart, butkind of smart. Smart enough to know
that YouTube cannot prepare me to havea debate with an actual immunologists, epidemiologists,
general practitioner, you know, justnone of those people in the medical
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field. Why because I'm not adoctor. You're really sticking your neck out
there. What about the University ofGoogle? Huh huh, Mommy, Look,
don't get me wrong, I'm smarterthan most I'll say physicianists assistance.
How about that assistance? Yeah,you're hedging your bets here. Shit,
No, I'm not even smarter thanthem. I would never insult them like
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