May 22, 2024 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on the ‘Heaven Can Wait’ reboot in works, the expansion of the Friday the 13th franchise with the new Horror, Inc. ‘Jason Universe’ AND the DC Studios partnership with Fathom Events to bring “Super/Man: The Christopher Reeve Story” to the big screen…PLUS – An apoplectic Trump Campaign is threatening to sue director Ali Abbasi over the portrayal of the former President in his forthcoming film ‘The Apprentice’ - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to Later with mo Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty KFI
AMS is forty mister mo Kelly here, we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
And just in case you haven't listenedto me over the years, back
when I was even doing the mo'kelly show on the weekends at KFI,
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we would talk about movies and wehad some general rules. Don't try to
remake classics. Don't try to remakecult classics. Leave them alone. Classics
obvious because they're classics. You're notgoing to improve upon them. Cult classics
usually are tied to a period ora time in life or an era which
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is very specific to a generation ofpeople via gen X, gen y boomer,
what have you? Like, ifyou were to try to remake The
Breakfast Club, it wouldn't make sense. Or like when you try to remake
a Roadhouse, it doesn't make sense. You're just taking the title and you're
trying to tell a story in presenttime, which doesn't make sense. So
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I always say, leave the classicsin cult classics alone. When I open
up the Hollywood Reporter, as Idid today and I see that a remake
of Heaven Can Wait is in development. I almost fell out of my chair.
Oh right, that was, butthat was my response. The Warren
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Baty Heaven can Wait was a remakeitself, though it was but the war
but the the original was not acult classic or a classic. That's the
differential differentiation I would make. Okay, well, let's back up to the
yes. But no, you makea great point. For example, there
are movies which are remade and thenturned into classics or cult classics. Oh
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sure, like the thing right right, And that's fine, but when they've
already been established. The nineteen seventyeight Heaven can Wait with Warren Baty was
nominated for nine Oscars, including BestPicture. It only won one, surprisingly
enough, and that was for BestArt Direction. But it was nominated for
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nine Academy Awards. It was athing then and it's still a thing now.
And just in case you're too youngto remember it or haven't seen it,
Heaven Can Wait surrounded Warren Batty.He was an NFL quarterback who died
prematurely, and that was because ofan antsy angel and returns to Earth in
the body of a recently murdered millionaireand Warren Baty even directed his version of
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the film and co wrote the scriptLeave it Alone. Leave it Alone,
not only because Warren Baty is stillalive. I think that's kind of an
unwritten rule. I personally think itis, but also the movie was nominated
for Academy Awards. What are youdoing other than a cash grab? No
one is asking for a remake otherthan the Hollywood studio, which already owns
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the IP and can throw it outthere, and people like me and Mark
Roner who have a positive affinity forthe Warren Baby version, maybe we would
go back to the theaters to seethis. And it's supposed to star Glenn
Powell. I think he's a fineactor. I like most of the stuff
that he's in, and I canunderstand. I can understand why they would
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choose him for this in a waythey chose or Warren Baby chose himself for
that one. I get it.Glenn Powell is the it guy right about
now. There has to be aleading man good looking in Hollywood, and
there's a dearth of them. Honestly, this goes back to the whole Ryan
Gosling discussion. It's not the Rock, It's not Ryan Gosling. It's not
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Denzel think about it. It's notTom Cruise. Who's going to be that
guy going forward? I think Hollywoodhas chosen Glynn Powell. Yeah yeah,
okay, so, but what doyou say about films that have had too
many bites at the apple or areway past their prime? Because we know
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that for some reason, they're goingback to the lab to give us a
sequel to uh, the the Golfmovie, the Golf the station. No,
not the caddy check them. Ohoh h happy Gilmore. Yeah,
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the original was fine. None ofthe cast is really still kicking live.
So Bob Barker's gone, but Sandler'sstill here. Yeah, but Carl Weathers
is gone too. He can't evendo a cameo from his character died in
the movie, but he still sortof carry having chactero. Yeah exactly.
Yeah. Okay, you got Sandler, you got the bad guy guy who
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shooter her. Is he still alive? Uh huh yeah, sure, he's
in the Hacks show right now.Okay, yeah, but what are you
going back for? I don't know. Didn't they finish that, wasn't it
done? I don't know. Idon't know her son, what do we
do? I don't know if there'smore story to tell, but that offends
me less because at least it's stillAdam Sandler as opposed to some third party
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unrelated gotcha. You know, I'mnot so sure that I'm looking for that
sequel, but you know, it'sAdam Sandler, Sandler's property. He can
do what he wants with it,but leave Heaven Can Wait alone. Please
leave it alone. And they won'tleave it alone. It was a huge
hit when we were kids, andhuge. Warren Baby was already a big
star from about the time of Bonnieand Clyde, which was about a decade
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earlier, but Heaven Can Wait madehim a superstar. And Buck Henry I
was involved in the writing of that. Yeah, it was a bit big
movie. And so this is Ididn't know anything about this until you mentioned
it, and I've been reading newsall day. I don't know how this
slipped past me. But what alazy choice. It was a lazy choice.
And I know Chris Rock did asimilarly themed movie called down to Earth,
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which was loosely based on it.And I'm reading up on what you
were saying. Mark. Obviously it'sadapted from the nineteen forty one feature here
comes mister Jordan. I get it. I get that there are variations being
told, but this is a directreboot and they're calling it Heaven Can Wait.
You know, when you had themovie Guess Who's Coming to Dinner and
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then they did that comedic kind ofremake with Bernie Mack and Ashton Kutcher called
Guess Who? That was horrible,But I didn't mind that as much because
they weren't trying to do the exactretelling or in the same style as the
original. Well, but he wasno Spencer Tracy, no matter what you
think of him. And now theoriginal Guess Who's Coming to Dinner? I
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mean I used to have that speechat the end memorized, and I bet
a lot of other people did Ido because it's my favorite movie of all
time? Well how about that.I knew we had to have something else
in common. It is my numberone favorite movie of all time. I'll
be damned. Yep, yep.I could look. I could talk about
the political prognostications which were made inthat movie which came to pass. I
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could talk about how Sidney Poitier andwhat he thought about the movie and working
with Spencer Tracy and how Spencer Tracyhe was. He died shortly after making
that movie. Yeah yeah, andhe looked like he'd been dead for a
while as well. He was hitthe bottle hard. Well. He used
to like to go to a hotel. He'd like disappear in the middle of
shooting a movie and go to ahotel with a suitcase full of bottles.
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And he takes off all his clothesand sit in the bathtub and opened the
suitcase next to him and not getout of the tub for any reason for
two weeks. Boy, I missedSpencer Tracy seriously. Between that. It's
a mad, mad, mad madworld. I'm always been a Spencer Tracy
fan that I wish I could have. Sorry, go ahead, you know
what I'm saying. I wish Icould have been alive when he was at
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the peak of the stardom. Oh. Just a magnificent actor and quite a
character. I imagine a night outdrinking with him. But remember also Sidney
Pottier. That was during a hellof a run for him too, right
after in the heat of the night. Yep. Yeah, So he goes
from slapping a white dude in theSouth in the sixties to marrying a white
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chick in the stays call me misterTis. He was partier. Was in
the middle of a hugely consequential culturalthing right then. And you notice they
haven't really tried to remake those movies. They really haven't. How about that
go over today? Well, youknow, just leave the classics in the
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cult classic alone. It's only becauseto your point, Mark, and I
know we got to go to break. Some stories are hold during an era
and for a time which is veryspecific and doesn't have the same residents fifty
sixty years later. I believe HeavenCan Wait is one of those movies.
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It's not a timeless classic. Theiteration of Warren Babies was a classic,
and it was nineteen seventy eight,and they would probably have to dumb it
up or dumb it down and doall the things which would be bastardize the
nineteen seventy eight version for it tomake sense today. And I don't want
to see that. And unfortunately they'restill going to do it now. More
CRT in this Heaven Can Wait you'relistening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand
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from KFI AM six forty. Somethingwe always talk about is the evolution of
video content how we may consume it. I've always made the argument that movie
theaters eventually will be a thing ofthe past. For the most part,
I don't report every single time thata mom and pop theater or a singular
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movie house may go out of business. But if you were to Google,
you'll be able to find one goingout of business or a few going out
of business every single week. Inlarge part, and there's something we've discussed.
There's not enough content being produced whichis going into theaters, and they're
not enough movies which are staying longenough in theaters to justify people going to
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the movies instead of just waiting forit to show up on a streaming service.
And I said, movie theaters,movie chains are going to have to
get real ingenious about how they're goingto get people to the theaters. You're
gonna have to have special events.You're gonna have to do things differently.
And you saw that with the TaylorSwift movie. You saw that with the
Beyonce concert movie. But also,if you've ever been to the theaters,
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you usually might see an advertisement forFathom Events. They'll have concerts, live
presentations, all sorts of things.I've never been to a Fathom Event's present
I haven't, but I think nowI might go to one. Because DC
Studios and Fathom Events they've partnered togive super slash Man the Christopher Reeves story.
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They've given it a special theatrical release, and it's supposed to hit theaters
on September twenty first of this year, and an encore presentation will follow on
the twenty fifth. I don't knowif it's going to be immediately available on
the Max app. I suppose itwill be at some point, but this
is something I would like to seeChristopher Reeves's story on the big screen.
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That's something I think would be bestenjoyed on the big screen, and it
has big screen ethos as far asthe production. From what I understand quote,
everyone knows that Superman is a superhero, but I'm eager for audiences to
discover the real superhero behind Superman.This film is an extraordinary story that takes
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a deep dive into the man ChristopherReeve really was and the courage he displayed.
That's Fathom Events CEO Ray Nutt,he said in a statement, And
for me, this is gonna getme into the theaters for Fathom Events Mark.
Have you ever been to a FathomEvents event stuff? Oh? Heaven
forbid? Well, Stephan said youon the mic. Have you ever been
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to a Fathom the Events event?No, but I've been kind of carrious
sometimes like some kind of pique myinterest. I mean, most of them
aren't really like in my demographic,but I see a couple and I'm like
that that looks like that'd be kindof fun. And it's like you're with
people that also appreciate it as well. They usually skew older for some reason.
Yeah, I've noticed that they're forthe most part, they're really good.
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Oh you've been twelve. Oh yeah, yeah, I've been to a
few. I went to the Backto the Future really Fathom events on the
day that Back to the Future wasset in the future, you know,
like that day I went then andI went to see Transformers the movie.
The Fathom events for that, they'refantastic events, like the in depth behind
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the scene and like sometimes you'll havelike a director or they'll have like the
star and then it'll have like anice round table. It's really really a
solid event. Okay, all right, Well that's even more reason if they
do it in that type of formatthat would get me in to a theater
for a Fathom event. Also toWalla. Since I have you on the
mic right now, you know I'ma Nicholas Cage fan. But what did
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you make of the news that he'sgoing to star in the Spider Man Noir
Live Action series, which is goingto be on the MGM plus Amazon Prime
Video. Now I knew he voicedthe character, but this is live action.
How's that supposed to work? Well, I mean, it can absolutely
work because the character of Spider ManNoir, he is an older character al
Ray, so this isn't a youngcharacter. This is an older, more
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gruff Peter Parker. And it canbe set in Nicholas Cage's realm. He
doesn't have to be young. Hecan be older. But of course,
when you have a mask on andall that, well, you can have
whoever you want in the suit flippingaround. But it's really a lot of
acting that goes into that, andI think that Nicholas Cage can pull it
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off more so than the action then, and he's he isn't really pulling any
punches. I don't know if you'veseen some of these direct to DVD movies,
he's doing, but he still gotit. He's still got it.
Look, he still got it.It's just at the project it's almost like
he's he's had I would make acomparison to Samuel L. Jackson because Samuel
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Jackson for a while was just doingmovie after movie after movie after movie after
movie. It didn't matter. Hewas just working wherever he could work.
And it seems Nicholas Cage. Iknow we had some money problems, but
he was going through that same periodwhere he was just working as often as
possible, as much as possible.Quality of the content be damned. I
saw Arcadian recently, didn't care forit, you know, But I know
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Nicholas Cage is still a quality actor. So I'm always pulling for him to
find that correct vehicle to showcase histalent. And this could be it.
I think you can get back fromthe horse. I believe this will absolutely
be And plus there's a lot ofhype around the character and he is really
really investing in the project, sothat means it is actually going to be.
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Ah, this isn't I got tocome out and do it. Get
a check. This is no.I really want to do this. This
is my opportunity to finally, finallybe a superhero. Well before we go
to break, Speaking of just doingsomething to get a check, Venom,
the Last Dance is the last Venommovie. It is a cash grab.
Is I don't know if I'm gonnawatch this, don't. I don't know.
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I don't know. It was sohorrible. It was really bad.
You don't hate yourself that much.Cut them. Look if it'll still gross
at half a billion, it stillwill make money for Sony, still has
Tom Hardy. I know why they'redoing it. It's not going to lose
money. They built the franchise,They're going to profit off the franchise.
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But it's probably going to be ahorrible piece of Look at the time,
you're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
I remember when I first saw themovie Friday thirteenth. It was nineteen eighty.
In fact, my whole family watchedit together. It was at home.
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It was on VHS. Excuse me, it was on video. We
had a Beta Max, so itwas on Beta when we saw it,
and I thought it was the scariestthing ever. I didn't realize until the
end it was actually Jason's mama,who's doing the killer or what have you.
But it was from an era inwhich horror was told very differently.
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But Jason, that character has enduredso much that Horror Incorporated is now expanding
the Friday the Thirteenth franchise and they'relaunching a new era of what they call
the Jason Universe quote. New Fridaythe thirteenth activations will span a wide range
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of platforms from entertainment, games,immersive experiences, merchandise, and more to
be announced throughout twenty twenty four.You can follow them on at Jason Universe
thirteen on social media, or youcan go to the website, which is
Jasonuniverse dot com. And here isjust a question I'm throwing out there,
and maybe Mark Rodner can answer itbetter because he is the horror officionado.
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When I think of horror, Idefinitely think of characters like Jason Vorhees and
obviously Freddy Krueger. But it's avery different horror than what I see or
perceive is in movie theaters today.It's almost like a completely different genre.
Oh, absolutely absolutely it does.Does Jason even resonate to the younger generation?
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Well, I mean the first Jasonmovie, the Friday the Thirteenth movie,
came directly out of the splatter genreof movies, the Slashers, and
then it turned into something else.So by the time you get to the
tenth one where Jason's in space,it's totally ridiculous, but it knows what
kind of a movie it is,and you're not meant to take it seriously.
The Slashers, you know, theygenerally came out of Italy, the
Giallo g I a l o,which stands for yellow. Those were their
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own special kind of thing, andthey were they were a little rougher than
audiences are used to and now youdon't generally see like there's an infamous Luccio
Fulty one called the New York Ripper, which was even tough for me to
watch. That is the tradition thatthe first Friday the Thirteenth came out of.
But then you know, it grewand it got sillier, and by
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the end, by a few yearslater, you had the Jason versus Freddy
movie where they're flying around in somefantasy realm fighting like Warner Brothers characters.
That was okay, it was notgood. Wait, wait, I was
in between. It was kind ofgood. It had moments of good.
But here's a question for you,Mark Ronner, because I wanted to go
there. I thought the opportunity wasmissed to have an Avenger style horror movie
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where you had ghost Face and youhad Freddy Krueger, you had Jason,
you had all these great characters notnecessarily team up, but just exist in
the same movie and have a battleRoyale or something like that. And given
that horror is able to be producedon a much smaller budget, it seemed
like it would have been easier topull off as opposed to a two hundred
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and fifty million dollar Marvel movie.But no one ever took it in that
direction. Well, Universal tried towith that first awful Tom Cruise Mummy movie,
but then the whole concept crashed andburned. That was what their plan
was, was to have a coherentmonster universe, but Cruise took too much
control of the Mummy movie and turnedit into kind of an action hero thing
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instead of something scary, and theend result was just awful. But see
that's the whole point. I mean, when you try to do the monster
universe. They were trying to doit big budget, big pictures. I'm
just saying, keep it small.Have these ten and twenty million dollar movies
of Jason or Freddie or a ghostface in the screen universe, and you
just put it together where you putthem all in the same movie and see
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who can kill the best or somethinglike that. Oh, that would be
so much fun. And there wasactually talk years ago of putting ash from
the Evil Dead movies and a Jasonand Freddie movie. Can you imagine how
fun that would have been. Andit just wound up never happening. They
couldn't make it happen. You couldhave like Leatherface with an at large bit
or something. There were so manyideas. I thought, because we're in
the age of crossovers, we hadAlien versus Predator, that someone would have
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come in and said, hey,why don't we do this on a smaller
budget level, just with these horrorcharacters and everyone can get paid. But
it just never seemed to come topass. But let me get back to
this before I forget Horror Incorporated.They're doing this Jason universe and they are
teaming up with the original screenwriter VictorMiller, who has a partners He's not
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a part of or Incorporated, buthe's working with or Incorporated for this expanded
universe. I can see how Jasonwould live on TikTok and you have this
smaller, shorter content which is digestibleand easily shareable, which you could send
out, and you could do thingson YouTube that you don't have to do
a complete movie. Obviously, youcould do games that's easy, but there
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are other things. Let me justput it this way. This makes sense
to me. I can see howthis would work. I wonder though,
how it's going to be built out. And you can go to Jason Universe
dot com and you can get signedup on their mailing list and they'll probably
send you updates. But I'm curiousand I'm intrigued. But also I wonder
how much younger people, the folkswho are the gen z ors know about
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Jason, or care about Jason,and which version of Jason they liked.
I personally thought that very first onewas kind of messed up and pretty good,
But like I mentioned earlier, Ithink, kind of like the Chucking
movies, they got sillier as theywent along, and I'm I'm really on
board for that. But they cango back to basics. If you had
the original Child's Played Chucky, theoriginal Friday to Thirteenth Jason, the original
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Texas Chainsaw, Max Massacre led theFace. Hell, let's get Michael Myers,
He's never dead. If you putthem all in the same movie,
that would be huge. And Iknow someone from Hollywood is listening right now,
and just put me in a scenewhere they kill a radio host.
I just I'll volunteer for that.Yeah, can I be in that one?
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How much fun were those Universal oneswhere they actually put Dracula and the
Wolfman and Frankenstein all in the samemovie. They did it two or three
times, including once with Abbott andCostello, and I wasn't so into that,
but it was still cool to havethem all in the same thing.
And that brings you forward to thelate fifties with all those Hammer movies.
That was one studio putting out allthose Dracula, Frankenstein and Mummy movies with
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the same cast. That was coolstuff. People were into that. If
they could ever get past the legalloopholes, which are probably insurmountable, but
the idea just seems like it wouldbe an instantaneous mega hit. It wouldn't
cost a lot to do. Youjust need to get the right to the
characters to be in the same movie. Obviously, there's like makeup and that
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about it. You can put themall in the cemetery and leave it at
that, just let it go fromthere. I would love to see that.
And I think any horror fan ofJason is probably a horror fan of
these other characters, so they havea rooting interest, because Tawala knows.
And I remember we all took sidesin Freddy versus Jason. Yeah, yeah,
we did, absolutely, Yes,absolutely, I took the side of
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wanting out of just such a bohumbugger. It's just it's all about Jason winning.
Okay, I didn't. I didn'tlike Freddie because Freddy was a few
years after me, a relative tothe movies that I saw. I saw
obviously what was like a Nightmare onElm Street to late eighties. Yeah,
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yep, okay, And Friday Thirteenthwas nineteen eighties, so it's a few
years after and I had already developeda love of Jason more so than Freddy
Krueger. So I was rooting forJason. Yeah, Freddy was the new
kid on the block, really right, and Freddy talked too much, too
much smack. You know, Jasondidn't say anything. He just killed,
that's all he did. Wow,Freddy got his work. Freddy was like,
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you know, a stand up comic. But Jason was the one who
killed and impaled teenagers for having premarital sex, and so of course you'd
be for that. I think thatwas kind of universal too. Yeah,
yeah, universal. They couldn't getnone. Of course, they were killing
kids. Who again song, youknew they were going to die as soon
as they started taking off the clothesup, your ass is gone. Oh
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yeah, the instant of penetration.You're You're gone, You're dead. That's
you've sealed your faith. Okay,I'm sorry, Okay, right, oh
okay, look at that time.Let's look at Oh yeah, it begins
the clock that too. In theFCC CAF IM six forty one Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app you're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
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AM six forty and the new movieforthcoming movie The Apprentice from what I read,
got an eleven minute ovation at itsworld premiere at the can Film Festival,
but it's also being met with controversy, it's controversial because the Trump campaign,
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which is actually the Trump family,they're vowing to sue the filmmakers of
The Apprentice for any number of reasons, but specifically because there's a scene from
what I read in this movie TheApprentice, which depicts a sexual assault of
Ivana Trump by a younger Donald Trump. If you don't know, in the
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divorce proceedings of Evanna and Donald,Evanna alleged that she was raped by Donald
Trump. She later recanted, Ithink in the resolution of the divorce agreement.
But I guess because I haven't seenthe movie, that depiction is in
the movie, and there have beenthoughts of threats of a lawsuit. I
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don't know where it's going to go, but I only found out recently that
it's starring Sebastian stan If you knowhim, he's the Winter Soldier from the
Marvel Cinematic Universe and is a fantasticactor. That used him as a young
Luke Skywalker for The Mandalorian. ButI look forward to seeing this because I'm
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just interested in it. I don'tthink that it's an actual biopic, as
they would say. It's a dramatizationand they're trying to get it ready for
a September release. Because the filmmakersget this, they want to actively tie
it to the second presidential debate betweenDonald Trump and Joe Biden. You may
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know that recently it was announced thatthey both agreed to two presidential debates that
would be on TV. One issupposed to be next month in June,
and the second one in September.No concrete dates have been made or set
as of yet or location, butthe filmmakers are trying to lock this in
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to run in and around the timeof the second debate. But it's a
legitimate movie. It has some starsattached, and I'm curious to see what
it's going to be. But it'sreceiving a lot of positive press as far
as the performances are. I don'tknow how accurate it's supposed to be.
Twallla, do you want to weighin on that. I know you're running
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too the studio. I didn't meanto do that to you. Yeah,
I know it's got to be takingyou think so look, I mean,
look to me. The most gloriousthing about this is that after the ten
minutes standing ovation that this film issupposed to have received is when the Trump
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campaign just got beside themselves and gottheir draws in a bunch and it was
just like we're suing. We're seeingthe look sit and saying, look,
you cannot sue. This is artnow, you can't. No, you
can always yes, you can alwayssue. And as the director said,
like you know basically what you aresaying, well, you can sue a
panic cane, if a can ofpaign if you want to. Good luck
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with that. Good luck with that. Your track record right now with lawsuits,
it's it's negligible, good sir.Yeah. And a lot of times
people say they're going to sue justto say that they're going to sue.
They don't want to commit the moneyto actually following through on that lawsuit.
And when ever you sue someone,you open yourself up to discovery. Another
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boone start flying out of the closetat that point, like do you want
to sue and then bring all ofthe things you're allegedly suing over back to
the line, like while you're onthe campaign, t are you want to
bring up those stories again and putthem right up front? Yeah, you
don't want to talk about Vonna Trump'sdivorce papers at that point in election.
Nope, you don't want to.You don't want that to be part of
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the story. And if you're goingto sue, you probably want to sue
before the election, not after theelection. But it's just fascinating to me
how this movie went to CAN andit was so under the radar. Yeah,
I follow this all the time.It's like, wait a minute,
I didn't know this movie is comingout, or I should say, being
made and being shopped at CAN andthey're hoping for a September release. I
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don't know whether that means it's goingto be a major release or just in
select theaters, or whether it couldbe purchased by a streaming service and then
it'll be released online or a streamingplatform. I don't know. But there
is not a trailer out. Thereare some scenes which have been posted,
not even scenes, just mintery framesimages, and they've also shown some video
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of them shooting the movie in NewYork. Yeah, but we haven't actually
seen any content from the movie,so I can't say one way or the
other whether it's going to be qualityor not. But Sebastian Stan has been
doing interviews on it, and heis high on what he feels the project
is. I don't know, andI was a fan of the TV show
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The Apprentice, so I wonder howthey're going to tie all that together.
I think they're going to take itfrom his first marriage all the way up
to prior preceding his political career forabout mistaken. That's what it looks like,
and that's why I think the filmis going to have wider appeal than
it. And then if it wasa political film, a film trick at
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his political career, because that's toomired and the muck and the mush and
all that. Look, if yougo before that, the to what led
to the hype, which is whatthe film, for my understand's supposed to
be ab it's what generated all thathype and all that goodwill to even have
individuals taken seriously on the ballot.That's what this film explores. And if
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you're I would say, over theage of forty or forty five, you
probably know most, if not all, of this history because we lived it.
Donald Trump was not an unknown quantityprior to The Apprentice. I mean,
in fact, he was well knownin entertainment circles, having nothing to
do with the Apprentice. It justled to The Apprentice. He was known.
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I mean you would hear him inrap records, you would make appearances
in TV and movies. He wasknown in that regard and he had a
reputation, but he was known.I remember first seeing him hanging around really
with Don King and always thinking whois this guy? That's right? Is
always bringing around who is that guy? And he was, but he wasn't
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a bigger than life personality when hegot the Apprentice TV show, which became
a worldwide phenomenon that obviously paved theway for the Donald Trump that we see
today, at least the persona.I don't know how much wealthier it made
him. I know it made hima good chunk of change. I don't
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know how much wealthier made him,but the persona of Donald Trump grew exponentially
because of that TV show. I'llwait until I see a trailer before I
start passing any judgment, but we'llprobably see one sooner than later, if
only because if this is supposed tobe released in September, well we should
see something before July, realistically,can'tf I aim six forty were live everywhere
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AMS is forty mister mo Kelly here, we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
And just in case you haven't listenedto me over the years, back
when I was even doing the mo'kelly show on the weekends at KFI,
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we would talk about movies and wehad some general rules. Don't try to
remake classics. Don't try to remakecult classics. Leave them alone. Classics
obvious because they're classics. You're notgoing to improve upon them. Cult classics
usually are tied to a period ora time in life or an era which
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is very specific to a generation ofpeople via gen X, gen y boomer,
what have you? Like, ifyou were to try to remake The
Breakfast Club, it wouldn't make sense. Or like when you try to remake
a Roadhouse, it doesn't make sense. You're just taking the title and you're
trying to tell a story in presenttime, which doesn't make sense. So
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I always say, leave the classicsin cult classics alone. When I open
up the Hollywood Reporter, as Idid today and I see that a remake
of Heaven Can Wait is in development. I almost fell out of my chair.
Oh right, that was, butthat was my response. The Warren
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Baty Heaven can Wait was a remakeitself, though it was but the war
but the the original was not acult classic or a classic. That's the
differential differentiation I would make. Okay, well, let's back up to the
yes. But no, you makea great point. For example, there
are movies which are remade and thenturned into classics or cult classics. Oh
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sure, like the thing right right, And that's fine, but when they've
already been established. The nineteen seventyeight Heaven can Wait with Warren Baty was
nominated for nine Oscars, including BestPicture. It only won one, surprisingly
enough, and that was for BestArt Direction. But it was nominated for
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nine Academy Awards. It was athing then and it's still a thing now.
And just in case you're too youngto remember it or haven't seen it,
Heaven Can Wait surrounded Warren Batty.He was an NFL quarterback who died
prematurely, and that was because ofan antsy angel and returns to Earth in
the body of a recently murdered millionaireand Warren Baty even directed his version of
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the film and co wrote the scriptLeave it Alone. Leave it Alone,
not only because Warren Baty is stillalive. I think that's kind of an
unwritten rule. I personally think itis, but also the movie was nominated
for Academy Awards. What are youdoing other than a cash grab? No
one is asking for a remake otherthan the Hollywood studio, which already owns
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the IP and can throw it outthere, and people like me and Mark
Roner who have a positive affinity forthe Warren Baby version, maybe we would
go back to the theaters to seethis. And it's supposed to star Glenn
Powell. I think he's a fineactor. I like most of the stuff
that he's in, and I canunderstand. I can understand why they would
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choose him for this in a waythey chose or Warren Baby chose himself for
that one. I get it.Glenn Powell is the it guy right about
now. There has to be aleading man good looking in Hollywood, and
there's a dearth of them. Honestly, this goes back to the whole Ryan
Gosling discussion. It's not the Rock, It's not Ryan Gosling. It's not
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Denzel think about it. It's notTom Cruise. Who's going to be that
guy going forward? I think Hollywoodhas chosen Glynn Powell. Yeah yeah,
okay, so, but what doyou say about films that have had too
many bites at the apple or areway past their prime? Because we know
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that for some reason, they're goingback to the lab to give us a
sequel to uh, the the Golfmovie, the Golf the station. No,
not the caddy check them. Ohoh h happy Gilmore. Yeah,
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the original was fine. None ofthe cast is really still kicking live.
So Bob Barker's gone, but Sandler'sstill here. Yeah, but Carl Weathers
is gone too. He can't evendo a cameo from his character died in
the movie, but he still sortof carry having chactero. Yeah exactly.
Yeah. Okay, you got Sandler, you got the bad guy guy who
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shooter her. Is he still alive? Uh huh yeah, sure, he's
in the Hacks show right now.Okay, yeah, but what are you
going back for? I don't know. Didn't they finish that, wasn't it
done? I don't know. Idon't know her son, what do we
do? I don't know if there'smore story to tell, but that offends
me less because at least it's stillAdam Sandler as opposed to some third party
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unrelated gotcha. You know, I'mnot so sure that I'm looking for that
sequel, but you know, it'sAdam Sandler, Sandler's property. He can
do what he wants with it,but leave Heaven Can Wait alone. Please
leave it alone. And they won'tleave it alone. It was a huge
hit when we were kids, andhuge. Warren Baby was already a big
star from about the time of Bonnieand Clyde, which was about a decade
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earlier, but Heaven Can Wait madehim a superstar. And Buck Henry I
was involved in the writing of that. Yeah, it was a bit big
movie. And so this is Ididn't know anything about this until you mentioned
it, and I've been reading newsall day. I don't know how this
slipped past me. But what alazy choice. It was a lazy choice.
And I know Chris Rock did asimilarly themed movie called down to Earth,
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which was loosely based on it.And I'm reading up on what you
were saying. Mark. Obviously it'sadapted from the nineteen forty one feature here
comes mister Jordan. I get it. I get that there are variations being
told, but this is a directreboot and they're calling it Heaven Can Wait.
You know, when you had themovie Guess Who's Coming to Dinner and
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then they did that comedic kind ofremake with Bernie Mack and Ashton Kutcher called
Guess Who? That was horrible,But I didn't mind that as much because
they weren't trying to do the exactretelling or in the same style as the
original. Well, but he wasno Spencer Tracy, no matter what you
think of him. And now theoriginal Guess Who's Coming to Dinner? I
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mean I used to have that speechat the end memorized, and I bet
a lot of other people did Ido because it's my favorite movie of all
time? Well how about that.I knew we had to have something else
in common. It is my numberone favorite movie of all time. I'll
be damned. Yep, yep.I could look. I could talk about
the political prognostications which were made inthat movie which came to pass. I
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could talk about how Sidney Poitier andwhat he thought about the movie and working
with Spencer Tracy and how Spencer Tracyhe was. He died shortly after making
that movie. Yeah yeah, andhe looked like he'd been dead for a
while as well. He was hitthe bottle hard. Well. He used
to like to go to a hotel. He'd like disappear in the middle of
shooting a movie and go to ahotel with a suitcase full of bottles.
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And he takes off all his clothesand sit in the bathtub and opened the
suitcase next to him and not getout of the tub for any reason for
two weeks. Boy, I missedSpencer Tracy seriously. Between that. It's
a mad, mad, mad madworld. I'm always been a Spencer Tracy
fan that I wish I could have. Sorry, go ahead, you know
what I'm saying. I wish Icould have been alive when he was at
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the peak of the stardom. Oh. Just a magnificent actor and quite a
character. I imagine a night outdrinking with him. But remember also Sidney
Pottier. That was during a hellof a run for him too, right
after in the heat of the night. Yep. Yeah, So he goes
from slapping a white dude in theSouth in the sixties to marrying a white
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chick in the stays call me misterTis. He was partier. Was in
the middle of a hugely consequential culturalthing right then. And you notice they
haven't really tried to remake those movies. They really haven't. How about that
go over today? Well, youknow, just leave the classics in the
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cult classic alone. It's only becauseto your point, Mark, and I
know we got to go to break. Some stories are hold during an era
and for a time which is veryspecific and doesn't have the same residents fifty
sixty years later. I believe HeavenCan Wait is one of those movies.
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It's not a timeless classic. Theiteration of Warren Babies was a classic,
and it was nineteen seventy eight,and they would probably have to dumb it
up or dumb it down and doall the things which would be bastardize the
nineteen seventy eight version for it tomake sense today. And I don't want
to see that. And unfortunately they'restill going to do it now. More
CRT in this Heaven Can Wait you'relistening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand
(09:39):
from KFI AM six forty. Somethingwe always talk about is the evolution of
video content how we may consume it. I've always made the argument that movie
theaters eventually will be a thing ofthe past. For the most part,
I don't report every single time thata mom and pop theater or a singular
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movie house may go out of business. But if you were to Google,
you'll be able to find one goingout of business or a few going out
of business every single week. Inlarge part, and there's something we've discussed.
There's not enough content being produced whichis going into theaters, and they're
not enough movies which are staying longenough in theaters to justify people going to
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the movies instead of just waiting forit to show up on a streaming service.
And I said, movie theaters,movie chains are going to have to
get real ingenious about how they're goingto get people to the theaters. You're
gonna have to have special events.You're gonna have to do things differently.
And you saw that with the TaylorSwift movie. You saw that with the
Beyonce concert movie. But also,if you've ever been to the theaters,
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you usually might see an advertisement forFathom Events. They'll have concerts, live
presentations, all sorts of things.I've never been to a Fathom Event's present
I haven't, but I think nowI might go to one. Because DC
Studios and Fathom Events they've partnered togive super slash Man the Christopher Reeves story.
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They've given it a special theatrical release, and it's supposed to hit theaters
on September twenty first of this year, and an encore presentation will follow on
the twenty fifth. I don't knowif it's going to be immediately available on
the Max app. I suppose itwill be at some point, but this
is something I would like to seeChristopher Reeves's story on the big screen.
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That's something I think would be bestenjoyed on the big screen, and it
has big screen ethos as far asthe production. From what I understand quote,
everyone knows that Superman is a superhero, but I'm eager for audiences to
discover the real superhero behind Superman.This film is an extraordinary story that takes
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a deep dive into the man ChristopherReeve really was and the courage he displayed.
That's Fathom Events CEO Ray Nutt,he said in a statement, And
for me, this is gonna getme into the theaters for Fathom Events Mark.
Have you ever been to a FathomEvents event stuff? Oh? Heaven
forbid? Well, Stephan said youon the mic. Have you ever been
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to a Fathom the Events event?No, but I've been kind of carrious
sometimes like some kind of pique myinterest. I mean, most of them
aren't really like in my demographic,but I see a couple and I'm like
that that looks like that'd be kindof fun. And it's like you're with
people that also appreciate it as well. They usually skew older for some reason.
Yeah, I've noticed that they're forthe most part, they're really good.
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Oh you've been twelve. Oh yeah, yeah, I've been to a
few. I went to the Backto the Future really Fathom events on the
day that Back to the Future wasset in the future, you know,
like that day I went then andI went to see Transformers the movie.
The Fathom events for that, they'refantastic events, like the in depth behind
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the scene and like sometimes you'll havelike a director or they'll have like the
star and then it'll have like anice round table. It's really really a
solid event. Okay, all right, Well that's even more reason if they
do it in that type of formatthat would get me in to a theater
for a Fathom event. Also toWalla. Since I have you on the
mic right now, you know I'ma Nicholas Cage fan. But what did
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you make of the news that he'sgoing to star in the Spider Man Noir
Live Action series, which is goingto be on the MGM plus Amazon Prime
Video. Now I knew he voicedthe character, but this is live action.
How's that supposed to work? Well, I mean, it can absolutely
work because the character of Spider ManNoir, he is an older character al
Ray, so this isn't a youngcharacter. This is an older, more
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gruff Peter Parker. And it canbe set in Nicholas Cage's realm. He
doesn't have to be young. Hecan be older. But of course,
when you have a mask on andall that, well, you can have
whoever you want in the suit flippingaround. But it's really a lot of
acting that goes into that, andI think that Nicholas Cage can pull it
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off more so than the action then, and he's he isn't really pulling any
punches. I don't know if you'veseen some of these direct to DVD movies,
he's doing, but he still gotit. He's still got it.
Look, he still got it.It's just at the project it's almost like
he's he's had I would make acomparison to Samuel L. Jackson because Samuel
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Jackson for a while was just doingmovie after movie after movie after movie after
movie. It didn't matter. Hewas just working wherever he could work.
And it seems Nicholas Cage. Iknow we had some money problems, but
he was going through that same periodwhere he was just working as often as
possible, as much as possible.Quality of the content be damned. I
saw Arcadian recently, didn't care forit, you know, But I know
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Nicholas Cage is still a quality actor. So I'm always pulling for him to
find that correct vehicle to showcase histalent. And this could be it.
I think you can get back fromthe horse. I believe this will absolutely
be And plus there's a lot ofhype around the character and he is really
really investing in the project, sothat means it is actually going to be.
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Ah, this isn't I got tocome out and do it. Get
a check. This is no.I really want to do this. This
is my opportunity to finally, finallybe a superhero. Well before we go
to break, Speaking of just doingsomething to get a check, Venom,
the Last Dance is the last Venommovie. It is a cash grab.
Is I don't know if I'm gonnawatch this, don't. I don't know.
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I don't know. It was sohorrible. It was really bad.
You don't hate yourself that much.Cut them. Look if it'll still gross
at half a billion, it stillwill make money for Sony, still has
Tom Hardy. I know why they'redoing it. It's not going to lose
money. They built the franchise,They're going to profit off the franchise.
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But it's probably going to be ahorrible piece of Look at the time,
you're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
I remember when I first saw themovie Friday thirteenth. It was nineteen eighty.
In fact, my whole family watchedit together. It was at home.
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It was on VHS. Excuse me, it was on video. We
had a Beta Max, so itwas on Beta when we saw it,
and I thought it was the scariestthing ever. I didn't realize until the
end it was actually Jason's mama,who's doing the killer or what have you.
But it was from an era inwhich horror was told very differently.
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But Jason, that character has enduredso much that Horror Incorporated is now expanding
the Friday the Thirteenth franchise and they'relaunching a new era of what they call
the Jason Universe quote. New Fridaythe thirteenth activations will span a wide range
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of platforms from entertainment, games,immersive experiences, merchandise, and more to
be announced throughout twenty twenty four.You can follow them on at Jason Universe
thirteen on social media, or youcan go to the website, which is
Jasonuniverse dot com. And here isjust a question I'm throwing out there,
and maybe Mark Rodner can answer itbetter because he is the horror officionado.
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When I think of horror, Idefinitely think of characters like Jason Vorhees and
obviously Freddy Krueger. But it's avery different horror than what I see or
perceive is in movie theaters today.It's almost like a completely different genre.
Oh, absolutely absolutely it does.Does Jason even resonate to the younger generation?
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Well, I mean the first Jasonmovie, the Friday the Thirteenth movie,
came directly out of the splatter genreof movies, the Slashers, and
then it turned into something else.So by the time you get to the
tenth one where Jason's in space,it's totally ridiculous, but it knows what
kind of a movie it is,and you're not meant to take it seriously.
The Slashers, you know, theygenerally came out of Italy, the
Giallo g I a l o,which stands for yellow. Those were their
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own special kind of thing, andthey were they were a little rougher than
audiences are used to and now youdon't generally see like there's an infamous Luccio
Fulty one called the New York Ripper, which was even tough for me to
watch. That is the tradition thatthe first Friday the Thirteenth came out of.
But then you know, it grewand it got sillier, and by
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the end, by a few yearslater, you had the Jason versus Freddy
movie where they're flying around in somefantasy realm fighting like Warner Brothers characters.
That was okay, it was notgood. Wait, wait, I was
in between. It was kind ofgood. It had moments of good.
But here's a question for you,Mark Ronner, because I wanted to go
there. I thought the opportunity wasmissed to have an Avenger style horror movie
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where you had ghost Face and youhad Freddy Krueger, you had Jason,
you had all these great characters notnecessarily team up, but just exist in
the same movie and have a battleRoyale or something like that. And given
that horror is able to be producedon a much smaller budget, it seemed
like it would have been easier topull off as opposed to a two hundred
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and fifty million dollar Marvel movie.But no one ever took it in that
direction. Well, Universal tried towith that first awful Tom Cruise Mummy movie,
but then the whole concept crashed andburned. That was what their plan
was, was to have a coherentmonster universe, but Cruise took too much
control of the Mummy movie and turnedit into kind of an action hero thing
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instead of something scary, and theend result was just awful. But see
that's the whole point. I mean, when you try to do the monster
universe. They were trying to doit big budget, big pictures. I'm
just saying, keep it small.Have these ten and twenty million dollar movies
of Jason or Freddie or a ghostface in the screen universe, and you
just put it together where you putthem all in the same movie and see
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who can kill the best or somethinglike that. Oh, that would be
so much fun. And there wasactually talk years ago of putting ash from
the Evil Dead movies and a Jasonand Freddie movie. Can you imagine how
fun that would have been. Andit just wound up never happening. They
couldn't make it happen. You couldhave like Leatherface with an at large bit
or something. There were so manyideas. I thought, because we're in
the age of crossovers, we hadAlien versus Predator, that someone would have
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come in and said, hey,why don't we do this on a smaller
budget level, just with these horrorcharacters and everyone can get paid. But
it just never seemed to come topass. But let me get back to
this before I forget Horror Incorporated.They're doing this Jason universe and they are
teaming up with the original screenwriter VictorMiller, who has a partners He's not
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a part of or Incorporated, buthe's working with or Incorporated for this expanded
universe. I can see how Jasonwould live on TikTok and you have this
smaller, shorter content which is digestibleand easily shareable, which you could send
out, and you could do thingson YouTube that you don't have to do
a complete movie. Obviously, youcould do games that's easy, but there
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are other things. Let me justput it this way. This makes sense
to me. I can see howthis would work. I wonder though,
how it's going to be built out. And you can go to Jason Universe
dot com and you can get signedup on their mailing list and they'll probably
send you updates. But I'm curiousand I'm intrigued. But also I wonder
how much younger people, the folkswho are the gen z ors know about
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Jason, or care about Jason,and which version of Jason they liked.
I personally thought that very first onewas kind of messed up and pretty good,
But like I mentioned earlier, Ithink, kind of like the Chucking
movies, they got sillier as theywent along, and I'm I'm really on
board for that. But they cango back to basics. If you had
the original Child's Played Chucky, theoriginal Friday to Thirteenth Jason, the original
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Texas Chainsaw, Max Massacre led theFace. Hell, let's get Michael Myers,
He's never dead. If you putthem all in the same movie,
that would be huge. And Iknow someone from Hollywood is listening right now,
and just put me in a scenewhere they kill a radio host.
I just I'll volunteer for that.Yeah, can I be in that one?
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How much fun were those Universal oneswhere they actually put Dracula and the
Wolfman and Frankenstein all in the samemovie. They did it two or three
times, including once with Abbott andCostello, and I wasn't so into that,
but it was still cool to havethem all in the same thing.
And that brings you forward to thelate fifties with all those Hammer movies.
That was one studio putting out allthose Dracula, Frankenstein and Mummy movies with
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the same cast. That was coolstuff. People were into that. If
they could ever get past the legalloopholes, which are probably insurmountable, but
the idea just seems like it wouldbe an instantaneous mega hit. It wouldn't
cost a lot to do. Youjust need to get the right to the
characters to be in the same movie. Obviously, there's like makeup and that
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about it. You can put themall in the cemetery and leave it at
that, just let it go fromthere. I would love to see that.
And I think any horror fan ofJason is probably a horror fan of
these other characters, so they havea rooting interest, because Tawala knows.
And I remember we all took sidesin Freddy versus Jason. Yeah, yeah,
we did, absolutely, Yes,absolutely, I took the side of
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wanting out of just such a bohumbugger. It's just it's all about Jason winning.
Okay, I didn't. I didn'tlike Freddie because Freddy was a few
years after me, a relative tothe movies that I saw. I saw
obviously what was like a Nightmare onElm Street to late eighties. Yeah,
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yep, okay, And Friday Thirteenthwas nineteen eighties, so it's a few
years after and I had already developeda love of Jason more so than Freddy
Krueger. So I was rooting forJason. Yeah, Freddy was the new
kid on the block, really right, and Freddy talked too much, too
much smack. You know, Jasondidn't say anything. He just killed,
that's all he did. Wow,Freddy got his work. Freddy was like,
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you know, a stand up comic. But Jason was the one who
killed and impaled teenagers for having premarital sex, and so of course you'd
be for that. I think thatwas kind of universal too. Yeah,
yeah, universal. They couldn't getnone. Of course, they were killing
kids. Who again song, youknew they were going to die as soon
as they started taking off the clothesup, your ass is gone. Oh
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yeah, the instant of penetration.You're You're gone, You're dead. That's
you've sealed your faith. Okay,I'm sorry, Okay, right, oh
okay, look at that time.Let's look at Oh yeah, it begins
the clock that too. In theFCC CAF IM six forty one Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app you're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
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AM six forty and the new movieforthcoming movie The Apprentice from what I read,
got an eleven minute ovation at itsworld premiere at the can Film Festival,
but it's also being met with controversy, it's controversial because the Trump campaign,
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which is actually the Trump family,they're vowing to sue the filmmakers of
The Apprentice for any number of reasons, but specifically because there's a scene from
what I read in this movie TheApprentice, which depicts a sexual assault of
Ivana Trump by a younger Donald Trump. If you don't know, in the
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divorce proceedings of Evanna and Donald,Evanna alleged that she was raped by Donald
Trump. She later recanted, Ithink in the resolution of the divorce agreement.
But I guess because I haven't seenthe movie, that depiction is in
the movie, and there have beenthoughts of threats of a lawsuit. I
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don't know where it's going to go, but I only found out recently that
it's starring Sebastian stan If you knowhim, he's the Winter Soldier from the
Marvel Cinematic Universe and is a fantasticactor. That used him as a young
Luke Skywalker for The Mandalorian. ButI look forward to seeing this because I'm
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just interested in it. I don'tthink that it's an actual biopic, as
they would say. It's a dramatizationand they're trying to get it ready for
a September release. Because the filmmakersget this, they want to actively tie
it to the second presidential debate betweenDonald Trump and Joe Biden. You may
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know that recently it was announced thatthey both agreed to two presidential debates that
would be on TV. One issupposed to be next month in June,
and the second one in September.No concrete dates have been made or set
as of yet or location, butthe filmmakers are trying to lock this in
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to run in and around the timeof the second debate. But it's a
legitimate movie. It has some starsattached, and I'm curious to see what
it's going to be. But it'sreceiving a lot of positive press as far
as the performances are. I don'tknow how accurate it's supposed to be.
Twallla, do you want to weighin on that. I know you're running
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too the studio. I didn't meanto do that to you. Yeah,
I know it's got to be takingyou think so look, I mean,
look to me. The most gloriousthing about this is that after the ten
minutes standing ovation that this film issupposed to have received is when the Trump
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campaign just got beside themselves and gottheir draws in a bunch and it was
just like we're suing. We're seeingthe look sit and saying, look,
you cannot sue. This is artnow, you can't. No, you
can always yes, you can alwayssue. And as the director said,
like you know basically what you aresaying, well, you can sue a
panic cane, if a can ofpaign if you want to. Good luck
(28:33):
with that. Good luck with that. Your track record right now with lawsuits,
it's it's negligible, good sir.Yeah. And a lot of times
people say they're going to sue justto say that they're going to sue.
They don't want to commit the moneyto actually following through on that lawsuit.
And when ever you sue someone,you open yourself up to discovery. Another
(28:53):
boone start flying out of the closetat that point, like do you want
to sue and then bring all ofthe things you're allegedly suing over back to
the line, like while you're onthe campaign, t are you want to
bring up those stories again and putthem right up front? Yeah, you
don't want to talk about Vonna Trump'sdivorce papers at that point in election.
Nope, you don't want to.You don't want that to be part of
(29:15):
the story. And if you're goingto sue, you probably want to sue
before the election, not after theelection. But it's just fascinating to me
how this movie went to CAN andit was so under the radar. Yeah,
I follow this all the time.It's like, wait a minute,
I didn't know this movie is comingout, or I should say, being
made and being shopped at CAN andthey're hoping for a September release. I
(29:38):
don't know whether that means it's goingto be a major release or just in
select theaters, or whether it couldbe purchased by a streaming service and then
it'll be released online or a streamingplatform. I don't know. But there
is not a trailer out. Thereare some scenes which have been posted,
not even scenes, just mintery framesimages, and they've also shown some video
(30:04):
of them shooting the movie in NewYork. Yeah, but we haven't actually
seen any content from the movie,so I can't say one way or the
other whether it's going to be qualityor not. But Sebastian Stan has been
doing interviews on it, and heis high on what he feels the project
is. I don't know, andI was a fan of the TV show
(30:25):
The Apprentice, so I wonder howthey're going to tie all that together.
I think they're going to take itfrom his first marriage all the way up
to prior preceding his political career forabout mistaken. That's what it looks like,
and that's why I think the filmis going to have wider appeal than
it. And then if it wasa political film, a film trick at
(30:47):
his political career, because that's toomired and the muck and the mush and
all that. Look, if yougo before that, the to what led
to the hype, which is whatthe film, for my understand's supposed to
be ab it's what generated all thathype and all that goodwill to even have
individuals taken seriously on the ballot.That's what this film explores. And if
(31:10):
you're I would say, over theage of forty or forty five, you
probably know most, if not all, of this history because we lived it.
Donald Trump was not an unknown quantityprior to The Apprentice. I mean,
in fact, he was well knownin entertainment circles, having nothing to
do with the Apprentice. It justled to The Apprentice. He was known.
(31:32):
I mean you would hear him inrap records, you would make appearances
in TV and movies. He wasknown in that regard and he had a
reputation, but he was known.I remember first seeing him hanging around really
with Don King and always thinking whois this guy? That's right? Is
always bringing around who is that guy? And he was, but he wasn't
(31:53):
a bigger than life personality when hegot the Apprentice TV show, which became
a worldwide phenomenon that obviously paved theway for the Donald Trump that we see
today, at least the persona.I don't know how much wealthier it made
him. I know it made hima good chunk of change. I don't
(32:13):
know how much wealthier made him,but the persona of Donald Trump grew exponentially
because of that TV show. I'llwait until I see a trailer before I
start passing any judgment, but we'llprobably see one sooner than later, if
only because if this is supposed tobe released in September, well we should
see something before July, realistically,can'tf I aim six forty were live everywhere
(32:36):
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