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Mister bo Kelly here KF I amsix forty. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. Got another fantastic showfor you. You bet you're ass.
We have a Metro update coming soonerrather than later. We also have an
update on UCLA, the Academic workersunion, which went on strike today after
the response to the encampments in California, is about to tax well, they
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always tax everything, but they're gonnaadd another thing to the list of things
that they tax. They're gonna taxguns like it already does with alcohol and
tobacco. Will tell you about that. And Richard Dreyfus, he is back
in the news because he went ona rant for a screening of Jaws.
He's supposed to be there to talkabout Jaws his role in it, and
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instead he talked about everything that hehated about the industry. Today and I
interviewed you, Mark, I don'tknow if you interviewed Richard Dreyfus, but
if you've ever interviewed him, youprobably have a story about him. No,
I never have, but I wasreading about that over the weekend and
I actually I sent myself another articleabout what an ah he has reputed to
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have been for quite a long time. There's that, and there are also
some discussions about whether there is somecognitive decline attached to him. It's hard
to say. No, I'm gonnasay that has been publicly reported. It's
not me making that up. No. No, I get that. I
saw him on Bill Maher's the Internetshow that he does with people getting high
in his basement or whatever that ispodcast. The way Dreyfus is sitting in
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the chair, it's kind of likehe's laying in the chair. And I
started wondering, right then, what'sgoing on here? This is not normal.
There's something up here. Yeah,and there are people who want to
agree with everything he said, andI would say slow down because I'm not
so sure that he knows what he'ssaying. It may do one hundred and
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eighty degree turn next week, becausethere's been a huge shift in his personality,
which I think has nothing to dowith the reality of the world that
he's living in. But I'll tellyou my story about Richard Dreyfus when I
had interviewed him many many years ago, and you could see that he wasn't
all there back then. Well,you know, you raise an interesting issue
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because he's kind of at that ageand with that attitude where there's a lot
of gray area between you know,I've earned the right not to give you
know what, he doesn't give anyf's and being just a plain old crank.
He's that. And then the thirdoption is maybe there's a little decline
going on there and you don't knowwhat the mixture is right right, and
we'll try to sort it out beforethe end of the show. But let
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me tell you about my day,because it's all about me. I walked
into the studio when I was doingcross talk with Tim Conway Junior, and
I just noticed this. I can'tsay it was a smell. It was
more like an aroma. I waslike, no, no, no,
no, it smelled almost like anew car smell. I couldn't place it
exactly. It's like, what isgoing on in the studios? Like it's
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like a new cleaning item. Didthey stop using Sabby Loso? Did they?
I didn't know what it was.And then Twalla came and said,
oh, yeah, they repainted.It's like, oh, it's paint.
I have a very faint sense ofsmell. That's part of the reason I'm
telling this story due to a headinjury. True story. When I was
eight years old, when I wasrunning to Dennis, slipped in the rain
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because they had this like linoleum tileout front, got a concussion. This
is long story short, had tospend a night in the hospital. Blood
pressure broke, pressure dropped, daviioushlylow. I'm told I almost died.
I was eight years old. Butit threw off my sight and my smell.
I have almost no sense of smell. Certain smells may jump out at
me, but by large, Ismell nothing. I thrive off of texture
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when it comes to food, notsmell or aroma. Some things I can't
smell, not a lot. Butthe things that I do smell can be
very pungent. That's the whole point. And there are certain smells that I
think are weird to everyone else,but I love them. I had these
strange desires to smell like I lovethe smell of gasoline. Don't ask me
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why, I just do. Ilove the smell of bleach. Don't ask
me why, I just do.And there's this cleaning agent that the housekeeping
the people who do maintenance here,that they clean the bathrooms with. I
like the smell of it. Well, I like to smell of that too,
because it smells like bubblegum all thetime. That's right, it smells
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like bubble gum, and it's weird. Do you think of bubble gum in
the bathroom? But it does us. There are these weird smells that jump
out at me. And I wastelling that story because the studio smells like
a car to me. Into Wallerpointed out, no, no, no,
they've repainted the studio. But Idon't have a thing for paint,
but this paint, I'm kind ofdigging. I always thought that your loss
of smell came to a head injuryfrom a kick. No, no,
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no, it was. It wasfrom when I was going to the dentist.
But I had some head blows andhot keto, but that didn't impact
my senses. What did that knockout? That's what I had, A
busted eyes saw. Oh that's whenthe eye got yet. Yeah, the
octic Yeah, the ocular blowout fracture. Yeah, it was a It was
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a good day. But I gotmy black belt, though hurt like hell,
got my black belt. My strukersaid, that's what you get for
not ducking. Thanks, just giveme my belt. True story though,
No, that that's it just camein and just it smelled really odd.
Mark, before we go to break, Do you have any weird smells that
you like? Uh? No,My favorite smell is coffee in a bookstore.
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It was hardwired into me from anearly age. But this this thing
that you you like, the smellof bleaches is strange to me. If
you ever sucked on a tide podmo no, no, no, I
said smell. I didn't say anythingabout tasting or ingestice. You want to
try things. I want to tastethe smell of the bubblegum cleaning agent the
urinal cake is what I'm asking.No, I have not. And remember
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Tim Kna Junior was saying like you'relike a nice person or something and respect
people's privacy or something like that,And I said, bowl, if you
have like the urinal cake and youwant to keep it to yourself, I'll
just drop this line of question.No, no, no, I have
not, but thank you for asking. Okay, they do smell good.
You have any strange smells that youlike. I love the smell of scump
really because I can smell it.That that is one thing that I can
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actually smell like this. This hereis like there are certain things that like,
I know, it smells toxic,and to me that makes me think
of paint. So I'm like,okay, that's what that smell is.
But like taste, I taste salty, I taste, but I don't taste
like the different you know, texturesof the food. And to me it's
salty, sweet or sour. Isthat from an operation here or though?
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No, I have no idea whathappened, but my sense of smell has
been gone for the longest. Sothat's when I smell scump. It reminds
me of It's something that I holdon to, like orange juice. People
are like, oh, smell thisor roses. I'm like, it smells
like what. I don't know whatyou're talking about. Do peppy cartoons?
Uh have a reaction with you?No, smell cartoons? Mark? What
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do you all together? In thevisual the smell. It's not like I
see a Maytag commercial and I startsmelling bleach or something. These you're all
Pavlovian responses. No, don't pretendyou don't know this. Look at the
okay, okay, okay, decideswe got to get to the real important
stuff, like people getting stabbed onthe Metro. You're listening to Later with
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Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI Amsix. We got off the air last
night at ten pm. At aboutten thirty pm, officers responded to a
report of a stabbing, another stabbingand a bus stop in the area of
West Olympic Boulevard and South Librea Avenue. The victim was located at the scene
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suffering from lacerations and was taken toa nearby hospital. One person was taken
into custody, but police have notprovided the identity of the suspect, but
it does seem that a person wasapprehended responsible for this stabbing. And you
might remember yesterday we told you abouthow the bus driver was attacked by a
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homeless woman and the bus driver probablyneeded her glasses to drive, had her
glasses taken and the bus driver hadto get in not one but two different
fights, well actually three. Therewas a verbal altercation and then they had
two physical confrontations, one on thebus and then one on the side walk
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next to the bus. At thebus driver tried to get her glasses back,
which were broken when she did getthem back, But those were two
Metro incidents within thirteen fourteen hours ofeach other. And I was making the
point, if you're going to workfor Metro, you have to have the
affirmative discussion with yourself. You haveto actively plan for the possibility of having
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to do battle to save your lifewhile on the job, while on the
clock. That's what I said yesterday, and today Metro has its response.
They've officially rolled out this pilot programat the North Hollywood station. They have
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made Metro has made the argument thatif you stop fair jumpers, you would
I guess positively impact crime. Itwould be less likely that someone would commit
a felonious act, fewer people wouldbe stabbed if you would stop fair jumping.
I've written the Metro I've told youthat before. I know what this
station looks like, and I knowthe general Metros setup. You have a
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tap card, and you would useyour tap card like you would if you
were buying something at a grocery store. You know, you just put it
down and the boop and then thelittle turnstile thingis would open and you would
go into the train area. That'sif you're in an indoor or I should
say subway train station. If you'reoutside, like on the Blue Line,
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you just have a platform. There'sno tap for that. You just get
on the train. Thick with me. If you were going to stab someone,
if you're going to rob someone,if you're going to punch someone,
what is the likelihood that you aretapping to get on the train in the
first place? And what is thelikelihood of you having to tap to go
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through the turnstile as opposed to justjumping over it, which you probably did
earlier in the first place. Whatis the likelihood of that stopping you forwarting
you, discouraging you from putting anice pick in someone's neck. Sorry for
the visual, but that's what we'retalking about, Okay, not an ice
pick, screwdriver, wrench, whatever, some sharp object. Metro is saying
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they're going to force people at thatone station as a pilot program, to
tap out where you would tap inboop, and then as you edit the
train, you have to tap outto open the turnstiles at both ends.
How is that If you've ever seenthe turnstiles, they come up to maybe
your waist barely barely that I don'tthink it's even that high. You don't
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even have to be athletic to jumpover them. You can just kind of
put your ass on top of theturnstyle and swing your legs over and then
just fall over. You don't haveto do much to get over them.
It doesn't stop you from getting ona train, and it definitely doesn't stop
you if you're getting on a trainat a platform or an outdoor location,
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or you're transferring from a bus.If you get on a train and you
don't have to tap in. Backwhen I was riding it, there may
have been someone from the La CountySheriff's Department. They would do random checks
and they would go up and downthe aisles and they would scan your tap
card. That was your way oftapping in if you're on the Blue Line.
But if there weren't that many deputiesdoing it, so it really didn't
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matter. I had money on myfare card. But it's like, okay,
the only time about us is whenI get to Metro Center downtown and
I'm going from Blue line to theRed line, and then I would have
to actually tap my card scan in, so it opened up the turnstiles.
Because I'm at an underground actual station. That's the only time that you would
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actually tap in, and if Ididn't tap in, I could still get
on the train. Why, becausethere's no one to stop me. The
act of tapping in doesn't mean anything. It doesn't matter. Yes, it
does provide a history of your tapcard, but that's for the law abiding
people. That only says where yougot on, where you got off.
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It does not prevent you from doinganything. And if you're one of the
many people, and I do know, and I do mean many people mean
if you're homeless or just a fairjumper, or someone with trump criminal intent,
you're not paying fares in the firstplace. It doesn't matter whether you
tap out. You're not tapping on. I promise you, I can guarantee
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you if you stab someone today,you didn't use your Metro fair card and
tapped on, and you didn't useit to tap off anywhere on that line.
You're just getting on and getting off. Why because one has nothing to
do with the other. I understandthat you want to use it as some
sort of deterrent. I understand youwant to make it at least a little
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more inconvenient for someone who might dosomething. But the tap card, the
fair card, has no role inlessening crime. It has no role in
diminishing a safety risk. It hasabsolutely no role in making people like you
and me feel any safer while ridingMetro, because if someone means you harm,
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or if someone's not in their rightmind, the tap card is not
going to save you. It wouldbe different if the Metro were fully self
enclosed, where the only way youcould get into a Metro station was to
use your fair card. That wouldbe different because you're limiting the points of
entry. You're limiting the ability ofanyone illegally getting on the training or access
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to a platform or to a bus. That's not the case, because when
you get on a bus, it'sno different than using your actual money as
a fair, use your tap card, it's the exact same thing. You
know, how many people get ona bus without paying a fair a lot?
Do you think the person who shotthat person last week? Do you
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think they paid a fair to countthe bus? I don't think so.
Do you think they used a tapcard? Probably not likely? Not so
it's nice. I understand that Metrowants to have some positive or less negative
news to report. I get thatthey want to be able to say,
see, we are doing something,we are experimenting with different ways to make
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it safer for you and me toarrive, but it doesn't actually change anything.
We all know what the solution is. Get to the solution. Don't
give me a press release. Getto the actual solution or the thing that
will actually make it safer, notthe thing that you put out as part
of a press release to make usfeel as if you're actually trying to do
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something when you're not. It's Laterwith mo Kelly k if I am six
forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. We're going to check in with UCLA
as academic workers have gone on arolling strike in response and protests to how
the protesters were treated. You're listeningto Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
six forty Another day, another strike, workers represented by United Autoworkers Local forty
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eight. Eleven UCLA workers had alreadybeen striking at UC Santa Cruz in what
the union called the first wave ofplanned walkouts. The second round of strikes
began Tuesday at UCLA and UC Davis. Specifically, early this morning, small
group of workers walked a picket lineon the UCLA campus. Dozens more joined
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by the middle of the day,and they marched through the campus and held
a rally near the Bruins statue.Here is what they're asking for, or
what they're saying publicly. Quote.Instead of protecting our rights to free speech
and assembly, Chancellor Blocks administration hasactively hindered them, rendering our students in
our colleagues vulnerable to assault and arrest. Instead of confronting the many forms of
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prejudice that hinder attempts at reconciliation,including anti Semitism, Islamaphobia, and racism,
his administration allowed the physical and verbalharassment of the Palestine Solidarity Encampment to
escalate in the worst internet of violencein our campus's history. And it goes
on to say that UAW Local fortyeight eleven is asking the UC Schools to
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give amnesty to all academic employees andstudents who face arrest or disciplinary actions for
protesting. I don't know how that'sgoing to happen. I don't think they
have any leverage, you know howI feel about that. It's one thing
to ask or demand something, butwhat's the alternative or what do you do
if and when you don't get whatyou're asking for? How long are you
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planning to be on strength for aslong as it takes. The strike has
been sanctioned until June thirty eight,which is the last day of our contract
and our academic calendar. So aslate as June thirty eight, the university
has made no progress in meeting ourdemands. Is how long will be out
here? I was here that nightApril thirtieth into May first, and I
saw, you know, a lineof police officers just standing by watching people
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launch explosives fireworks at the camp,watching people get bet in with with wooden
sticks and metal sticks. Take alook though. UCLA released a statement in
regard to this strike, saying,our talented students are getting ready for finals
and UCLA's focus is doing whatever wecan to support them. They are paying
tuition and fees to learn, andwe are dismayed by deliberate outside disruptions that
may get in the way of that. UC officials have also as we bring
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it back out of your lives.They have also pushed back saying the union
can only make demands regarding labor issues, not for this. They told me
that the State Public Employment Relations Boardhas also issued a complaint against the UAW
for its unlawful strike. Activities.So again, Amy, as I sent
it back to you. Live herefrom the UCLA campus. They are making
their way toward that statute where theykind of hold a rally, and as
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you heard, they could be doingthis for weeks to come, too,
Ala for weeks to come. Idon't know if anything changes at the end
of those weeks, which may comeagain back to you. UAW Local forty
eight to eleven is also asking forstudents to have guarantees of freedom of speech
and political expression on campus, andit's asking for researchers to be able to
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opt out of funding sources tied tothe Israeli Defense Force. I don't know
how all of that is going tohappen, or is supposed to happen logistically.
And it's not clear to me thatUCLA at least because it's not just
UCLA, it's UC Davis and it'sa whole UC system because it began it
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uce Santa Cruz. Today it wasUCLA and U SEE Davis. I don't
know how much coordination between the universitiesin response to these striking workers will be
had. It's one thing to saywhat UCLA may do, but it's another
thing to expect these other universities howthey will respond, if at all,
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and if we learn anything from theprotests of until now, I think it's
fair to say that just about allof them failed. I think it's fair
to say that I think there wasmaybe occidental and maybe one other smaller college
where they negotiated a vote about whatthe school would be doing going forward,
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and they would allow the student protestersto participate in an ongoing discussion about how
money would be used or spent.But I haven't heard anything further about those
demands being met as far as atotal divestment, And I don't know if
this is going to be any different. If you remember to the clip on
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a plate again, there's a closeend to all of this. Will they
planned to stay as long as theycan, which may be the end of
month, which is probably just onthe other side of graduation. It's almost
like you're tipping your hand. There'sonly so far that you can take this,
and if you let someone know howfar are you plan to take this
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or can take this, well,they'll just wait you out. Listen to
this again closely, how long areyou planning to be on strength? Toresong
has it takes. This strike hasbeen sanctioned until June thirtieth. What does
that mean? Sanctioned until June thirtieth? What are you saying so this is
going to be unsanctioned come July first? Are you saying that you be out
of steam at that point? Areyou saying that you have to find and
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devise some other method of protest tohave your voice heard. I wasn't exactly
clear by that, but when youput that date out there, it says
to me that there is some sortof upper limit that you have to respect.
How long are you planning to beon strength tore as long as it
takes. This strike has been sanctioneduntil June thirtieth, which is the last
day of our contract in our academiccalendar, so AH contracts and academic calendar
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contracts. Because they're workers working onthese university campuses and the academic calendar,
students are going home. There area lot of people who probably weren't even
going to be on campus because itwould be between semesters or sessions. There
is an upper limit as to whatthis strike can be and how long it
can exist on campus. How longare you planning to be on strikes for
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as long as it takes. Thestrike has been sanctioned until June thirty eight,
which is the last day of ourcontract and our academic calendar, So
as late as June thirty eight,the last as late as June thirtieth,
Well, the clock is ticking.It's Later with mo Kelly. We want
to talk taxes and guns, andtaxes and guns in California when we come
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backfi AM six forty live everywhere onthe iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later
with Mo Kelly on demand from kfiAM six forty producer Kenna. I have
a question for you, and itsets up this discussion of taxes. If
I said sin tax as an siN second word tax, not s y
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N tax, one word sin tax, would you know what that meant or
what it's referred to. And ifyou don't, that's fine. Yeah,
No, I have no idea whatit means. Okay. A sin tax
is an excise tax placed on goodsthat have been deemed harmful. And I
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put that in air quotes to societyand individuals, alcohol, drugs, tobacco,
pornography, certain fast foods. Thinksof that type gambling, so they
will tax you for buying things orparticipating in behavior deemed and I put that
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in air quotes. It's always aboutperspective deemed harmful to society. You can
add, at least in California gunsthey've made it part of that sin tax.
Starting in July, California will bethe first state to charge an excise
tax on guns and ammunition. Thisnew tax, and we had discussed it
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when it was being voted upon andgoing through up in Sacramento. The new
tax is an eleven percent levee oneach sale each sale and will come on
top of or in addition to federalexcise taxes of ten percent or eleven percent
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for firearms, and on top ofcalifornia six percent sales tax. Basically,
it's another Senn tax, and Californiahas taken the stance that guns and ammunition
are harmful to society in the waythat alcohol, tobacco, and other items
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have been seen as harmful to society. California, for example, imposes a
two dollars and eighty seven excise taxon each pack of cigarettes, and that
tax is higher than a national average, but lower than New York's. Get
this. New York taxes five dollarsand thirty five cents on each pack of
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cigarettes. Now, I don't smoke, but what is the average pack of
cigarettes called? Why asking me?I don't know. I've never smoked in
my life. Mark, have youever smoked? Nope, never picked it
up. Stephan have you ever smoked? Never did, But it it's harder
to describe it. But I've heardthat. Yeah, when you're in New
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York. It's way worse as hardas taxes go. If you just want
to buy one pack, yeah,it'll cost you almost twenty dollars. I've
never smoked. My sister smoked whenshe was much younger. My parents smoked.
They both smoke until the age offorty and then they stop. So
I have a vague memory of myparents going to the grocery store and buying
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a carton of I don't know,winstons. I think they smoke Winstons,
and they would complain about how muchmore expensive they had become over the years.
But this is the real point Iwant to make. Taxes will raise
revenues, but they've never I'll saymodified behavior. If you want to shame
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people and say you should not beusing that, you should not be buying
that, and so we're going totax that. Okay, right, That's
why they call it a syntax becauseyou're basically wagging your finger at them saying
shame, shame, shame. Butit doesn't change any behavior. And the
state of California is trying to takethe stance, well, this is done
to somehow curb gun violence. No. No, they have an excise tax
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on pornography. Does anyone want toguess whether pornography suffered. No, I
don't think so. Liquor stores aredoing just fine relative to alcohol. The
reason why cigarettes have not done wellis we've had decades of research and decades
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of negative advertising PSAs about the dangersof cigarettes. You can't even advertise cigarettes.
You can. You can have abeer commercial tomorrow. It's just it's
just different. There's limitations on certainadvertisements with alcohol as far as when you
can advertise them, where you canadvertise, But good luck trying to find
a cigarette commercial. Good luck.I think what California is trying to do
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and I don't want to read toomuch into it, but like in London,
England, what they did to helpcurb gun violence is they made they
raised the cost of ammunition to makeit so cost prohibitive to just get bullets
and just go willing Nelly shooting,and in London, England, there was
a lot of crime in certain areasof once upon time. Now is to
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the point where if you have agun, lucky you. If you have
ammunition, wow, bully for you. This isn't going to do the same
though. This is not going tohelp curb either gun purchasing, buying or
anything. I mean, this doesnothing, and there's a difference. The
United States is a gun culture,and it's more so now than twenty thirty
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years ago thanks to the NRA andtheir advertisement and promotion of guns. You
can get mad at me if youwant. If you know the history,
you know it's true. The NRAat one point used to be for gun
control. I think it was rightaround the Civil Rights movement. I wonder
why that was. But we livein a gun culture and we have more
guns than people in America. Makingguns more expensive is not going to change
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that. It's a part of ourat this point, our national identity,
like it or not. This.If you want to tell me that this
is going to help gun violence inCalifornia, I'm saying you're lying to me,
and I think you're being dishonest anddisingenuous. If you're saying that this
is a way that you can usethe gun culture to help raise tax revenue
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for your pet projects, that I'dbe more inclined to believe that that is
more believable. That's the only thingthat is actually going to help. If
you're trying to tie the sale ofguns to the sale of ammunition and making
it more cost prohibitive, that thatis going to decrease gun violence, Well
you have You're not being honest.You know. I'm all for trying something,
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but this ain't it. It's laterwith Mo Kelly, can't I am
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