Hollywood’s New Tool to Report Harassment & the Development of Air Taxis

ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the Hollywood Commission’s new online tool designed to help workers report harassment and workplace misconduct in the industry…PLUS – The dream of ‘Air-Taxis’ flying commuters across city skylines may become a reality by 2025 - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty and
an ongoing discussion we have here iswhat really goes on in Hollywood, what
really goes on in the entertainment industry, what really goes on when we talk
about these moguls who are getting introuble for arguably allegedly criminal behavior, vile

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behavior. And you've heard me andTwala and even Mark Ronner talk about this
extensively, about the people that we'vecome across, the people that we've interviewed,
the people that we've hung out with, the things that we've seen that
were very real. We talk aboutthe Me Too movement and fighting harassment.
We said, hey, this hasbeen an issue for as long as I've
been in this business, and whypeople don't come forward. Oftentimes there's a

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fear of obviously being fired, reprisals, being blackballed, and in the case
of Diddy, I made the pointthat they were actual fears of violence,
actual violence. And now you cansee, given what is alleged why people
were afraid to come forward. Theywere worried about their own physical safety.

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Well, the Hollywood Commission, whichis a nonprofit organization focused on improving protections
against sexual harassment and workplace abuse inthe entertainment industry, has just launched,
or I would say, in asmall way, launched a new tool that
is set to allow workers to reportmisconduct online anonymously. It's called my connect

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co n n e XT, andthrough my connect workers can report instances of
discrimination and learn about their options forreporting. Beyond being an online resource,
it purportedly also offers to connect industryworkers to its OMBUDS office about their options

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on reporting harassment complaints well. MyConnects also includes online messaging where workers can
ask questions anonymously about their specific organization'srules and process around reporting. Workers have
the option to report instances of misconductalso anonymously, and that my Connects also

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offers a time stamped recording feature thatallows workers to write down instances of misconduct
as they happen and hold on tothem for future reporting or for personal records.
I guess there'll be like contemporaneous notesif you will. The main feature

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that it's offering or it's promoting orselling if you will, is for the
hold for match function. If someoneis reporting an instance of abuse, they
can choose to hold to file thatcome until someone else reports a similar complaint
regarding the same individual, then thetwo reports can be filed together. And

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it's very limited in the rollout sofar. When we say the entertainment industry
or Hollywood, this is not goingto cover all of the industry. It's
only going to be related to afew guilds. And this would only be
open to workers who are part ofthe Director's Guild of America or the Writer's
Guild work on Amazon or Netflix productionsin the United States, or for the

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Kennedy Slash Marshall Company, or aremembers of SAG after, which would include
me and include to Walla Sharp andinclude Mark Ronner. So we would be
able to use this if we hada problem. If I had a problem
with Mark, I mean of aharassment or discriminatory nature, this would be

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available to me and I could anonymouslyreport Mark. Maybe not even do anything
immediately, but I could get theinformation out there. It would be recorded,
It could be timestamped and documented andused at a later date if someone
else had a similar complaint. Thatseems very helpful. So you're saying that

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I could somehow report the hostile workenvironment you create here in the studio,
and it wouldn't necessarily be harmful tome. That is correct, as you
would put it negatively impact. Yes, well you could do it, but
if it should ever get back tothe higher ups here, huh. I

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don't know how long you could stayanonymous. I mean, we all know
it's you. I see you're theYou're the the malcontent around here. So
what you're saying is that I'm doomedto be victimized by you as long as
I am here at this job.I wouldn't say doomed. I mean you
can always quit. I mean noone's like making you work here. Interesting,
Okay, oh this is I mean, you don't have to leave,
but it might be in your bestinterest to lead. I don't have to

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eat. I don't have to liveindoors. Why would I want to live
indoors? It's the weather's just turningnice. Say it as like losing weight.
You don't have to eat. No, that's a bonus, that's a
luxury. That's right. There arepeople starving all around the world, and
you're complaining about the quality of foodhere. No, and I could be
one of those people. I hadn'treally thought about it that way. This

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has been a great talk. Butto be serious, yes, this would
be a tool and option. Idon't know how and this is not clear
in the story. I don't knowhow it would work, if at all
in conjunction with an HR department,or is it just for you personally to
start a digital paper trail of andI guess memorializing experiences that you've had to

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be used at a later date ifand when you want to make a formal
complaint. The stories that I've heard, and doubt you and Tuala have as
well about especially women who have hadtrouble in the office, make my head
spin. So any step in thisdirection seems like a positive thing, doesn't

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it. Yeah, yeah, andI don't have anything negative to say about
it. I don't know how effectiveit would or would not be. I
just think if someone felt the needto at least put it on an informal
record, and in previous years peoplewould use they would send an email to
themselves, or they would use ahand recorder and record their thoughts. It's

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not unlike that, but this wouldbe a centralized system where and I'm just
teasing Mark, but if I wereto complain about Mark, and then Tuala
made a complaint about Mark, andwe both use his name. At least
there's a reference point for Mark beingan a hole and then we could like
file a complaint together. Thank youfor that. I'm looking forward to the

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day that you do that. Well, you know, we've all got to
have something to look forward to inlife. Yeah, yeah, no,
I am free to file a counterclaim. Correct, Yes you are Mark Ronner.
Okay, you know? And whystop with my connects goes straight to
hr? Are you saying that youknow that I've already done that? Who
told you? Do you have asource here in the office after all the

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abuse that we've subjected you to,I assume it was a natural next step.
I see, Well, I'll enjoyliving in your house after Yeah,
you will own it at that point. Yeah, that's fine that we can
still talk. Actually we're still goingto talk more about this when we come
back, because there is a seriousside to this, and I think I
have my own recommendations on what needsto be included to make it more effective.

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And also i'll say, more enticing, but more attracted to someone who
may be considering not following a complaint, but seeking information about a situation Live

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everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. It'sMoe Kelly. Last segment, I was
talking about this Hollywood online tool tofight harassment, and it's going to be
rolled out on a very small levelscalled my Connect and it's only open at
this point to workers who are partof the Director's Guild, the Writer's Guild,

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who work on Amazon and Netflix productionsin the US, or for the
Kennedy Slash Marshall Company, or aremembers of sag After. Full disclosure,
I'm a member of sag After,and I think this is well intentioned.
It's built upon the idea that workerscan report instances of discrimination or harassment excuse

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me, harassment, and learn abouttheir options for reporting in an anonymous way.
I would have some recommendations, andI do this not quite annoying the
capabilities of it. But I haveworked with enough people who've had conversations with
me about their concerns about reporting peoplein high places, very powerful places,

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and what would need to be doneor what assurances they needed in a variety
of jobs, from sexual harassment tophysical abuse to uncomfortable interactions. Had all
that once as a manager, othertimes is a coworker, but there was
a common theme through all of it, and the fear was even though you

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the eventual complainant would be anonymous,the fear was, well, the person
that you're complaining about would be ableto figure out who it was. They
would know who it was because oh, okay, that person is accusing me,
it must be so and so,And there would always be a fear

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that the person would find out priorto that wanting them that person to find
out, and then they lose controlof the situation. I would want to
know if my connects could honestly keepsomeone anonymous, and who else has access
to the information if I give myinformation. I was using using Mark as
a foil, but he knows thathe can. He's a good sport about

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it. So that's why you noas a you know, a good sport.
If I were to complain about Mark, and I was concerned, and
I wasn't ready to make a formalcomplaint, but anonymously, I've let it
be known that Mark's behavior was unacceptable. It made me feel uncomfortable, and
at the same time, I'm afraidof reprisals. What are the backstops to

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make sure that he doesn't find outor that I'm not exposed somewhere along the
way. The thing is that whatyou have a problem, that's part of
it, as part of it,and you know when you're flipping me off,
when you're driving things of that nature, I'll understand, honestly. But
what assurance is because I know whenyou go into someone's office, be it

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HR or whatever, you know thatyou've escalated to a point where you can't
control it. You can't control whathappens after that. And if you're going
to put something online. And wehave all these discussions all the time that
privacy is an illusion. How secretis it really? You know, if
you have to be a member becauseyou obviously have to give them some identifying

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information, right you have to provethat you're a member of SAG after the
DGA or the Writer's Guild. Iwould think people would be more comfortable if
there was more information available for peopleto know how safe their identity is,
because if you're unsure, you'll probablyerr on the side of not coming forward.

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And if this tool is about fightingharassment and encouraging people to come forward
in an anonymous way and not evenin a way which is going to be
an escalation. You may not leadto a formal complaint. You know,
you could have the hole for matchfunction. That could be a year,
could be two years, could betwo months. But what is going to

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happen to that information in the interim? Who has access to that information?
Because the whole problem with harassment anddiscrimination there's an imbalance of power. Someone
has power and someone does not.If you don't trust the system, you're
going to be less likely to putyourself in a way where you're relinquishing all

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your power and at what expense.If I were to use the system as
it's being presented, I would wonderabout who has the information? Can that
person be intended be tipped off?Because once it's out there, it's out
there and I can't control what happensto it. That would be my concern.
You have to remember also that onceyou set something in motion like that,

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it's you again. Everybody. Thankyou. You think your company's HR
department is completely impartial, I gota bridge to sell you. They represent
the company exactly. Their interests arethe company's interests, not your interests.
That's why you have to get alawyer. You have to get a union
representative, you have to get somesort of advocate for yourself. Yeah,

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it's a lonely and you're really rollingthe dice if you do anything like this.
So anything that makes it easier todo this without immediately thinking, oh,
I'm finished forever, that's a positivestep. Well, but that is
a real concern. Every person thatI've talked to was always worried about the
repercussions, not even the reprisal fromthe person, the repercussions of filing the

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complaint, how they would be viewedwithin the company, how the relationships with
co workers would change within the company. Does it make it virtually impossible to
get a job in that same industry, Because I know for a fact,
if you go after certain people,good luck trying to go to another company

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where that certain person also has strongrelationships. You'll be persona non grata.
They won't touch you exactly. Youmay have the perception that you're standing up
for yourself, but other people's perceptionmight be troublemaker. Yeah, there's the
complainer. There's the troublemaker. There'sthe person who can't even have an interaction
without going to HR Who wants towork with that person? Yeah, who

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has this information? I guess that'smy real question. And if we don't
know who has the information, wecan't even fathom how it might be used
to our detriment. Someone obviously hasaccess to it. Someone knows what those
whole for match recordings contained. Someoneis matching it up right right. It's

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not just you just entering fields,Okay, Mark Ronner KFI. What is
the complaint? Discriminatory behavior exposed himselfto me? Not wearing pants it work
or a speedout the office. See, someone has to look at that information,
right. It can't be just automatedAI and they'll just match like resumes

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with keywords. I'm guessing someone's actuallyreviewing it. Oh, you have to
have a human involved in it,right, right? That would be my
concern. And I know the peoplethat I've discussed, all of them women
who were reticent to come forward.They were always concerned with once you tell
someone to your point, Mark,it's out there, even if it's a

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third party. Wy, don't youtell someone you can't control it after that
point? No, nobody should besurprised when people keep this kind of thing
to themselves. It's a huge riskto come forward with anything. Ever,
we'll see where it goes from here. I was just expressing my concerns as
someone who has dealt with people who'vebeen harassed, who've been sexually abused,

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who have been abused on the jobin the physical sense, and their concerns
that they've told me over the years, and this is I think potentially good
could start, but I don't knowif it would address all of their concerns
about control of the information after theyput it out there. It's Later with

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mo Kelly. Let's talk about someflying cars that Twalla says are actually going
to be here next year. Idon't believe it, but you know he
says it. He's going to haveto come in and defend it. I'm
not buying literally or figuratively. You'relistening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty. Maybethey need to do an updated version of

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the show Taxi, a reboot andcall it air Taxi or something like that,
because that's the only way that thatshow would make sense in twenty twenty
five. And a reason I saytwenty twenty five. It seems, according
to a number of published reports,that electric air taxis are on the way
could be here as soon as twentytwenty five, and there's some real names

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attached. What I mean by thatis United Airlines has plans for these future
risks. Take electric air taxis inChicago and New York, fank goodness,
not in LA. The US militaryis already experimenting with them, and one
company has a contract to launch anair taxi service in Dubai as early as

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twenty twenty five. Another company hopesto fly participants at the twenty twenty four
Paris Olympics. Wow, still don'tbelieve it. They have these startups all
around the world, Joby, Archer, Whisk, Lilium. They are leading
the way in this technological revolution.And Joby's two pre production prototype aircraft completed,

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according to the story, more thanfifteen hundred flights, spanning a total
distance of more than thirty three thousandmiles. And let me just say this,
I don't care what it says,what they've done. We are nowhere
near close being ready for air taxisif we can't handle damn autonomous drone taxis

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on the ground. Look, Stephanalmost got into an accident with one today
with the way Moore car. Oh, that is a lie. The way
More Car almost ran his ass downand he had to take a picture of
it to document the license plate.He wanted to make sure that he had
evidence after the fact that tell meare of propaganda. That is not the

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innocent picture that food sid He senta picture of a waymouth for what what
reason would you other than it?Almost it was like, oh and he
cuts you off. It was menacing. I thought it was cool. It
was right there. It was acool menacing. What it was a cool
menacing? No, it wasn't menacing. It was a price for him because
to see it and I and Ican't video it because I was driving,

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But just take a picture. WellI took the picture when I was a
part we were in a red light. Good answer, that's still illegal,
you know, all right, don'tdon't let them You were afraid for your
life, admitted no, but itwas badgering the storyteller. No, but
legit. It was really cool toknow that there was no driver in there
and you saw it, like,slow down at the traffic, slow down

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to the stop light. Are yousure there's no driver? But it was
just a little person couldn't see aswell? No, No, I know,
no, I know, no,it could see will it was being
menaced by doctor Migolito Loveless. No, I know there wasn't one, because
well, first of all, Isaw it was way Mo, so I
was like, okay, I assumedso there could have been one, but

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I didn't know. But but thenas we kept driving, I passed it.
I passed it and there was noone in there, and it took
it went a different way. Butit was so trippy to see it,
like stop at the light perfectly.It gives a gap between itself and the

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car in front of it until itdoesn't. And I said, you know,
Grandma got run over by Waymo.No. No, see, That's
where I'm like on to Wallace becauseI'm like, that's in oppressive. You've
seen the technology for yourself. Okay, Now imagine a rotor on top of
it flying through the air. Okay, mo. You actually, if there

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are not already commercial taxis or commercialtaxing of people by way of helicopters.
They do tours around Long Beach byhelicopter. Those are just private helicopters giving
people tours. You can do atour of the bay, you can do
tours of San Francisco. Bicopter theyhave it all the time. This technology
is already in place. They've alreadyflown some of what is it, fifteen

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hundred hours with not a single drop. This is corob okay, yeah,
but when it's the only thing inthe sky, you're less likely to deal
with any eventualities in the way thatif you use the weaiy mow in certain
limited areas, I'm quite sure it'sfine. But once they start filling the

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sky with these things, all hell'sgonna break loose. You're gonna mean like
floating stop lights. Yes, yes, yes, we probably will the fifth
police, floating taxi cars. Butthere are those things, from my understanding,
they have already from some of thetests that they've been doing, there
are serious proximity alerts within these thingsjust and these these are already these are

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piloted, but some of the onesthat they are trying out autonomous, and
the autonomous ones that they are tryingout there they already are navigating in between
some of the skyscrapers from helipad tohelipad, or or or from a drone
pad to drone pad. And that'swhat these things are already doing. We

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should have full disclosure here, Tuwalaare you or are you not completely owned
by air Taxi and now it's bigdriverless air tax big driverless air Taxi.
You're owned by them. Look,this is not what's happening right now.
Did you see he bought a houselast week? What I think it's Oh
no, this is not, uha Black Lives Matter thing. I'm not

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on the take. We need someforensic accounting here. No, but that's
what. No, But that's whyI took to Walla's point. It was
impressive. I mean to see itdrive exactly how it needed to be for
I mean, I was following Iwere not following it, but I was
next to it for probably a goodmile in downtown LA, which is like

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the worst area to drive downtown.Yeah, okay, and it and it
it made sure to stop a goodgap between behind the car. It stopped
at the stop light, and yousaw it didn't like That's what I was
watching too. It didn't jerk stop. It just slowed down very slowly,
and I was like, there's noone in the car. That's pretty impressive,

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you know. It was also impressivewhen you'd have those rockets that Elon
Musk would launch and they would land, they would take off and land on
the platform. And that was prettyimpressive, right until they blew up.
Right, it only takes one gonebad just one one Grandma, just one
is they are not gonna be fallout of the sky on Grandma or several

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bad drivers. I don't know whatit's. It's threat assessment, it's evasive
maneuvers, how it can deal withobstacles and unforeseen circumstances. You're already three
months into the way most self drivingtaxis here in the Los Angeles area,
and we cannot report one accident,not a toe run over, not even

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someone cut off at a stop.Like they're paying off the media, they're
paying off people. They're burying thereport, just like the Tesla they were
burying their reports. And then nextthing you know, major recall, this
is not what's happening. This isnot you know what's happening right now,
propaganda and coloring the story with yourown huge You need more Fox News in

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your life. It will change yourwhole outlook. You need less news.
Wow, Okay, that was justjust admit it, Tuala. You are
so in the bag for this technology. You you just you believe anything they're

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putting out there saying that is,there's no way this is gonna be here
by twenty twenty five. It's noticelike remember those flights. Its like Iron
Man, the the jet packs theyhad the nineteen seventies, and they thought
everyone's gonna be flying around by jetpacked by the twenty first century. Does
that ever happen? This is soweird, Mo, because you literally said
they are not going to have theself driving taxes here within a year from

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the time that we were reporting onit. They're not here. They are
here. The Seriously, Foots isliterally reporting live on Sea one today.
What are we talking about? Hethought he was leaving behind evidence for detectives
investigating his death. That's right.He would want to make sure that in
the event of a f collision,they would be proof of the criminal.

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He thought that could have been hisgoodbye to us. Why do you think
he sent it to us? Hedidn't even send it to his family.
He sent it to us because wewould have understood and interpreted the message correctly.
That was not a random picture.Find the people who did this.
I'm just saying this is so wrong. It was impressive to see it drive

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so diligently, and I so I'mI'm on team to Wallace. Okay,
was it was it like? Wasit like head transplant? Impressive? Oh?
No, God, that would bepretty impressive. That would be pretty
damn impressive. Go ahead and saygo ahead and say no, it wasn't

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okay, I just want to makesure. Okay, look at the time
you're listening to later with Mo Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
Before we get out of here,we're going to finish up our discussion where
Tuala was wrong and I was rightregarding these air taxis, and just let
you listen to this very quickly.This is a company which is trying to

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get this off the ground put intended. Instead of using fuel and one large
rotor like a helicopter, you canuse batteries to power a dozen rotors.
So on the Archer Midnight aircraft yousee twelve rotors, six in the back,
six in the front. All twelveof those let you take off vertically,
just like a helicopter. But thenthese six on the front here they
tilt forward and what that does isit lets you power forward flight like an

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airplane in tandem with the wing that'son our Archer aircraft. We made the
decision early on that we were onlygoing to invest internally on key differentiating technologies,
and clearly the powertrain is the keydifferentiating technology. At the core of
Midnight's commercial appeal is the passenger experienceis designed to see to pilot and four
travelers plus luggage. The aircraft isn'tfully fitted out for passengers, but it's

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easy to imagine what the ride wouldfeel like. Did you get that?
So they have someone with that phonyaccent to make them sound smarter, make
it more official, sounding like thetechnology is going to be better because I
ETA and crumpets, so it makesthe whole things sound more legit, right,
I'm not fooled. The design isfour passenger seats front, right,
back, right, pilot. Howafter all this time configuration four passengers.

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Our goal is to be the Uberof the air. When I was at
Uber, we took all the dataof Uber trips going back, and I
don't know if you want to bethe Uber of the air. You know
some some really sad and horrible thingshave been happening in ubers for a while.
I don't know if you want tobe the Uber of the air.
That's just me. When I wasat Uber, We took all the data
of uber trips going back and forthall over the world, and what we

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figured out was that four passengers wasthe optimal configuration to do one thing,
which is lower the cost per passengerfor these trips. So four passengers,
just like a sedan, you cansplit that cost amongst four passengers and make
that equivalent to what you might spendon an uber or attack. Right,
And there's a lot more to itfrom a financial standpoint than just the passengers.
That's one fact. We also lookat capacity on the route, so

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we understand what the cost of theaircraft is. We understand what the cost
of the pilot is, we understandwhat the cost of the repair and maintenance
of this is, we understand batterycosts. All of that feeds into our
unit level economic model and it doesshow that pricing at ride sharing prices allows
us to make an economic profit.An they know about ride shan Oba.

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Hello, are you even trying toto keep this in the realm of an
accurate report? Look when I heardthe voice and the actions, and I
knew that they were serious. It'sdesigned to seat a pilot, and not
a pilot, but a pilot.It's designed to seat a pilot. Is

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designed to see the pilot and fourtravelers. That passengers, butfore travelers four
travelers are in chocolate ice cream.That like some chocolate ice cream. That's
not how he sounds. It's designedto see the pilot and four travelers.
Luggage plus plus luggage plus luggage plusluggage. Hel Govna is designed to see

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the pilot and four travelers plus luggage. The test aircraft isn't fully fitted out
for passengers, but it's easy toimagine what the ride would feel like.
Why would it be easy to imaginewhat it feels like? I've never been
in a helicopter? Is that whatthis is about? Is this about your
fear of flying? Look from thefrom the guy walking on a cruise ship.

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I refuse to be from a guywho won't uh uber by sea.
That's how you're not living in inthe riviera. We have to take canals
everywhere. That's not what this isabout. I think I would believe you
had a better accent. The testaircraft isn't fully fitted out for passengers,
it's easy to imagine what the ridewould feel like. How is that design?

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Is the whole whole tin? Orchange? Because you had the American
in there, the design and allthe credibility just left it. The design
is four passenger seats. Well itsounded like it he was trying to do
like a Now you see all ofthis is faulty. All of this is

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is unreal. It's it's phony.This this sound this sounds like fake news.
You have news bought off by theopposition, made it China, fake
news. I don't know, toalla, does it not give you pause
to get in something that could bebrought down by a cell of fame birthday?

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But I don't know. I knowa lot of black people, and
black people wouldn't ride this. Ohhere we go, Oh boy, good
night. Hello, I'm out kIF. I am six forty. We
live everywhere near I Heart Radio app. Critical thinkers, what it k s?
I'm m KOs t HD two,Los Angeles, Orange County. Live

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