Vigilantism at USC, Road Rage in the South Bay & the Secret Service Robbed in Tustin

ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Guest Host Tiffany Hobbs filling in with thoughts on the fatal stabbing incident at USC, the investigation into the driver found stabbed to death after an apparent car crash in the South Bay, the Secret Service agent that was robbed at gunpoint during President Biden's recent visit to California and MORE - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

Episode Transcript

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KFI and six Ford Live everywhere onthe iHeartRadio app. It's Later with Mo
Kelly. I am not Mo Kelly, I am Tiffany Hobbs sitting in with
you tonight. Moe is en routeto Soul Korea. He should still be
on the plane until about midnight tonight, a little bit after midnight, when

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he'll be touching down to experience allthat Soul Korea has to offer him for
with his dojo, for his martialarts practice. It's a huge deal.
And while he is gone for therest of this week and all of next
week, I will be holding itdown for part of that next week will
be Chris Merrill. We're really lookingforward to being here with you and we're

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gonna have a fantastic time. We'renot gonna burn it down while Mo is
gone, and we'll give him somethingto come back to. Who else is
here. We have Tuala as usual, our super producer, Tuala Sharp here.
We have Miss Jackie Ray sitting infor Mark Ronner who's out tonight.
We have Steph on the boards asusual, and we have met. We

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have the lovely Matt who's here,so we'll be talking to him as well,
probably at some point in the evening. He's new, so we got
to break him in. He's beendoing a fantastic job. Hi everyone hither,
everyone's waving high hola, hola,hola awesome. So we're going to
get into it. We have alot to cover tonight, a lot to

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cover. There's been just a rashof crime in the last few days.
This is Los Angeles. That isnot necessarily a surprise. But who the
victims are and how perhaps these crimescame about may in fact be the difference.
We're going to talk about all sortsof things. June teenth is today.

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I have a shirt on about Juneteenth. Juneteenth is today, and
you may have some questions about whywe are celebrating Juneteenth. And I'm actually
gonna express to you my frustrations withJuneteenth, and we'll get to that.
In the second hour. We willdo some viral stories because it's Wednesday,
and on Wednesdays I'm usually here doingthe viral load. That's where you've heard

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me. Usually don't hear me untilabout nine pm, but you're getting me
for the whole three hours. We'llstill do some viral stories. We'll get
into some other things, including whythe USDA is suspending avocado inspections. We're
also going to talk a little bitabout why California is now finding Amazon a

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lot to get to, a lotto get to. So let's start it
off. Do you have a car. Are you a commuter? Do you
have a car? Do you parkyour car inside of a garage where it's
safe, preferably your own home garage, not necessarily a paid for a garage,
something with more security, Or areyou like many Angelino's and many in

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the South Bay who are parking theircars outside of a garage, making them
susceptible to not only weather, butto anyone who might be interested in doing
anything nefarious. Are you feeling increasinglyparanoid that your car might be vandalized?
If so, then this story willprobably speak to you and tick you off.

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It's a major story in Los Angelesas it again involves the University of
Southern California, which happens to bemy alma mater, most recently in the
news because of the protests and nowin the news because of a fatal stabbing,
and we've been covering it on KFI. All the shows have been covering

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it. I have some other thingsto kind of add to it, including
some news that's emerged, some updatesin the story to let you you know
kind of what's going on. Butfirst, there's a man who was fatally
stabbed on USC's Greek Row. Now, let me explain to you what the
Greek Row is. Having gone toUSC, I'm very familiar with this area

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of the campus. It's a longstretch of multi million dollar homes that are
separated by lawns and small strips ofland in between. There's an alley that
runs behind this long stretch of homesin this exclusive neighborhood that was purchased by
USC to house the Greek community,those who have pledged different sororities and fraternities.

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It is called the Greek Row byothers, but is commonly known as
the Row. Now in this alleybehind these multi million dollar homes is a
large const constituency of homeless people.They're transient, so they're not all the
same. It changes. There arepeople who have been there for months and

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months and months, and then thereare those who just pass by, as
is the nature of homelessness anywhere,but especially in Los Angeles. Saturday night,
there was a gathering at the row. On the row, there are
parties. It's a fraternity sorority area. There are parties all the time.

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There are parties into the wee hoursof the evening. It's always populated.
And as this is now the endingof the term at SC, they've already
had their graduation, there are stillpeople who are behind who don't necessarily go
home for the summer. They hangout. There was a young man there
named Ivan the Yagos. Ivan's anineteen year old student. He's going into

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his sophomore year now at USC andhe was there on the row, partying,
enjoying his time. He was witha few friends, and as the
story goes, Ivan and his friends, two to three of them specifically,
were in front of one of thesehomes and around eight fifteen pm on the
seven hundredth block of West twenty eighthStreet, Ivan and his friends noticed that

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there was a man attempting to enterthe cars parked along the street there in
front of these homes. This manwas going around checking door handles. This
was reported by friends and bystanders otherwitnesses, checking door handles until he found
one that was unlocked. He gotinto the car and stayed in the car

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long enough for Ivan and his friendsto confront him. When Ivan and his
friends walked up, there were wordsexchanged. According to Ivan, the man
brandished or said at least that hehad a firearm some sort of weapon.
Ivan then and this is where thestory kind of gets a bit muddled.
There aren't a lot of clear details, but what we do know is that

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Ivan then somehow got access to anine. There was an interaction between Ivan
and this man, resulting in astabbing. Ivan stabbed the man multiple times.
The man ran off, ran backto this alley where he collapsed,
and when authorities arrived on scene,the man was already pronounced dead. So

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Ivan was arrested and held at theat the you know where they take people
who do this sort of thing,right, And he's now being held on
two million dollars bond his friends andI'll get to this in a little bit
when we come back from break morein depth. His friends have been interviewed
and they've gone into detail more aboutwho Ivan is and what would have prompted

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such a thing. But what weknow now as far as the emergent details,
are that this homeless man was twentyseven. His name was Xavier surf
and he was kind of known inthe area as being a transient. A
lot of people as well in areassay that this sort of crime is constant,

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that these break ins have been onthe uptick. And so the reason
that I find that this story isvery interesting is because it really speaks to
a sense of vigilante justice no longerbeing a concept, an abstract concept that
we might think of, but insteadbeing a go to strategy by which people

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are employing because they don't necessarily feelconfident in law enforcement's ability to respond to
crime. People are essentially tired ofbeing victimized, and Ivan stood by and
watched as this happened. So whenwe come back, I'm going to tell
you a little bit more about howI feel about this story, maybe get

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into some more facts, and againwe'll talk about the friends and witnesses who
were interviewed and what they feel aboutIvan and what they think should happen in
the wake of this. I'm goingto tie it together as well to another
story that happened last year, notin California, but in New York that
deals with vigilante justice. You're listeningto later with mo Kelly on Demand from

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KFI AM six forty. It's laterwith Mo Kelly. I'm Tiffany Hobbs filling
in for Mo. Tonight. Welast talked about this fatal stabbing at USC's
Greek Row. It happened this previousSaturday, June whatever date, that was
June fifteenth, now, around eightfifteen pm, during a time when the

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row, the Greek Row, wasvery populated, and because it was very
populated, there were young people outwho took it upon themselves to confront someone
they perceived as committing a crime worthyof confrontation. That crime was the vandalism
of a car, perhaps more iftime were to allow, and those who

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stepped in were essentially we are headedby one young man, nineteen year old
Ivan Goyegos, who is now injail on a two million dollar bond due
to stabbing the assailant, this twentyseven year old homeless man, Xavier Surf,
multiple times, resulting in Serf's death. I was talking about why I

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believe this person was stabbed, whyhe was confronted, and living in Los
Angeles, there are numerous incidents inwhich those of us may be bystanders witnesses
to crime. We've talked about ita lot here on KFI. You may
have talked about it with your ownfamilies and maybe come up with a contingency

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plan. Should you also witness somesort of crime, what might you do
well? Ivan Goyegos answered that question, and the answer resulted again in his
arrest and now being held in jailon what could very well amount to charges
of murder, because that is infact what happened, and this is a

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sense of vigilante justice. There arelots of people who are fed up with
crime, and you'll see it.You'll see it on social media, You'll
again hear it at your dinner table, you'll hear it at your water cooler.
If such a thing still, ifyou're still going to work in the
first place, right, not justworking from home. But the sense of

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helplessness is pervasive and the want todo something is growing. And this young
man, Ivan Diego's nineteen a USCstudent, did in fact do something and
that very well will jeopardize his future. At this point, his life is
forever changed. At this point,the person who was breaking into the cars

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life is now gone. So thereare two lives that will be forever altered
because of the decisions that were madethat night. But essentially, again,
there's story after story of attack,a vandalism, and there's more stories about
people taking the law into their ownhands. We can't pass judgment, not

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here to pass judgment. I'm nothere to convince you or try to influence
you. So whether or not Ivanwas right or wrong about what he did,
that's not my place. It's notyour place either, to be honest,
that will come when he has hisday in court. But when we
are faced with a scenario, ascenario that could be similar to seeing someone

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breaking into something or shoplifting or whateverit may be, What do you do?
There was a show you might havewatched. It aired on ABC.
It still does in syndication. I'mnot sure if there are new episodes,
and someone can jump in and letme know if you believe you know the
answer to this. But it's calledWhat Would You Do? Toast It by

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David kin Yonez, and the premiseis that it creates provocative scenarios and puts
unknowing citizens in these scenarios to getwhat their natural reactions might be. Again,
the title is what would you do? What would you do? What
would you do? If you werewitnessed to a break in. What would

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you do if the victim was someoneyou knew? And then again, what
would you do if you felt likeyou might be able to actually thwart a
crime? What would you do ifyou felt capable of stopping a crime?
Do you jump in? Do youcall police? And wait? And there's

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a story coming up about long beachand wait times with police response times and
what people have been prompted to doin the interim, Ivan and his friends
said that they called police. Theydidn't wait for police to arrive before they
acted. Police arrived post stabbing.What would you do? Intervening can have

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complicated results. If you're lucky,the criminal stops the act. Maybe your
words are aggressive enough, maybe yoursize is imposing enough. Whatever the case,
the criminal stops and you are ableto walk away from this scene from
this incident. If you're unlucky,perhaps someone dies or is really injured in

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the process. Like this story withIvan Diego's an Xavier surf, this alleged
homeless man was killed. This storyreminds me of another story, and the
story that came to mind immediately isa story that is from last year,
twenty twenty three, and it actuallyhappened in New York on a subway train.

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There was a street performer, aman known as a street performer who
also was known to have some mentalhealth challenges, mania, whatever it may
have been, and he was onthis train when he was performing or asking
people for money, and people wereuncomfortable. One man stepped in and decided
to enact what he believed was atthe time vigilante justice. He felt compelled

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to stop this street performer from solicitingmoney and whatever else he was trying to
get. And that feeling of ofwhat entitlement I guess, or that feeling
of needing to intervene, resulted inthis man, Daniel Penny, strangling Jordan

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Neely to death over the course ofsix minutes. Six minutes where Jordan Neely
was choked by Daniel Penny on theground in front of onlookers on this train
on a very crowded train in NewYork, resulting in the death of Jordan
Neely. Bystanders and witnesses had alot to say about Daniel Penny, talking

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about who he was or is asa person, why they felt he was
again compelled to do this, whereasothers had things to say similarly about Jordan
Neely, and both, in theeyes of their friends, should have been
exonerated, but only one was ableto walk away and now is facing charges
that will be re examined or fleshedout later this year in October. So

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again, what do you do whenyou since that a crime is happening and
that you feel is possible for youto intervene in successfully? Do you wait
for police? Do you take itupon yourself? Do you measure the possible
consequences of either This isn't a televisionshow. We're not in a reality show.

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It's not scripted, So whatever isthat happens is something you're going to
have to reckon with in real life, as this young man and Ivan Goegos
is doing now. There are nocameras to yell cut. There's only the
consequence of what's happening. When wecome back, we're going to talk about
a driver who was stabbed death aftera car crash. Road Rage is called

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road rage for a reason. Rageis in the phrase it's right there.
He was stabbed to death. We'regoing to talk about why, some thoughts
about it, and then we'll getinto another crime that happened there's this is
the crime out. We're going totalk about crime here in the Southland because
it is it is a very presentissue. You're listening to later with Moe

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Kelly on demand from KFI Am sixforty. I'm Tiffany Hobbs sitting in Do
not get out of your car ifsomeone hits you. Do not do that.
Do not confront people. Do notgo all big bad and try to
try to talk to someone or talksomeone down from their road. Rage.

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Rage is right there in the phrase. It's in the title. Rage means
not of sound mind. People arenot doing well out here. Do not
try and confront someone. You mightend up on the news like this next
story we're going to talk about.And this is where wisdom and discernment comes
into play. It's needed in everysituation, but especially in high stress situations

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like during traffic collisions. Don't confrontcriminals. We learned that in the last
story. Don't confront people who arepissed off if they hit you, especially
if they hit you that already tellsyou that they're not ready to take accountability.
This is what you shouldn't do.So a person got rear ended.

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This happened in Linux just yesterday orjust yesterday in fact, at the intersection
of one hundred and eleventh and LarchAvenue, Linux, right there near Hawthorne,
and it's right near the one ohfive Freeway. There's a donut shop
nearby. There's multiple schools in thearea, populated area, and it happened

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around twelve thirty in the afternoon,broad daylight. There was just a simple
auto collision. Two cars. Carrear ins one car. Both people get
out, and the person who didthe rear ending was so irate that they
decided that they were going to stabthe person they hit. Makes no sense,

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makes no sense until you remember againthat road rage involves what rage?
It involves rage. The person gotout of their car, according to witnesses,
and walked up to the other person. They both exited their vehicles and
stabbed the person. This other mailon or at his upper torso and the

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person who was stabbed fell to theground and people came around and they called
law enforcement in paramedics and he unfortunatelydied at a local hospital. The suspect,
the stabber, fled the scene.The guy just took off. They
have a description of the cards,an Infinity SUV a lot of these.
For whatever reason, a lot ofthese crimes involve Infinity SUVs. I don't

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know what's going on. I don'tknow what kind of makeup people who drive
Infinity SUVs have. But whatever thecase, if you drive an Infinity Suv,
you may be very well apt tocommit a crime. You might want
to think about switching your car.Person has an Suv in Infinity. They
don't know where he is, theydon't know who he is. There's some
idea as to what this person orwho they could be. But as of

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right now, according to all reports, the suspect is on the loose.
So not only did this happen,but this staber is just out there in
the public able to do this.Again, should they into an interaction that
involves a car crash. But again, this is where wisdom and discernment comes

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in. You need to be wise. You do not just get out of
your car when there is an issue. The Citizen video, there's an app
called Citizen, showed a large portionof the street which was cordoned off.
Okay, so people were out,they were approaching the scene. Again,
there were schools nearby. Schools outfor the summer. In most cases,

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but it's the middle of the day. People could have kids, could have
been on the playground. There,there's a strip mall nearby. There's a
neighborhood. I looked at the GoogleMaps aerial view of this neighborhood, which
I'm somewhat familiar with, and thereare just bunches of houses, bright day,
beautiful weather, middle of the daystabbing. That shows you just how

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emboldened people are, okay, andjust how short fuses are. And again,
this stabbing remains under investigation. Noone will talk. People on the
scene don't want to give up muchinformation. They just know that this happened
and that unfortunately it resulted in thedeath of a young man. So I've

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witnessed plenty of accidents again like youhave. And what I learned recently is
that if you call nine to oneone, which you should do, you
can ask for a mediator if thepolice can't arrive at the scene quickly,
and you can ask kind of what'syour eta this is? It's getting heated,
you want to start dropping some integralphrases. It's getting heated, I

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don't feel safe, or whatever thecase may be. They'll send a mediator
if you ask in the form ofa parking enforcement person. You can get
someone out there to just stand literallyin the middle of you and the other
people are person so that it doesn'tcome to this situation. And then you
also have another witness on the scene. Use these strategies. Do not try

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and be a hero. Don't goafter the homeless man breaking in the cars.
Don't try and confront someone because theyhit your car and you're all pissed
off and your hands are waving andyou're angry and you're saying choice words.
It's not going to end well foryou. You have to keep a level
head. Easier said than done,I get it. But when you don't,
these are the sorts of things thatcan happen. These are the sorts

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of things that can happen. Anotherstory about not keeping a level head involves
a Secret Service agent, and we'regoing to talk about what happened with the
secret Service agent when we come back. It involves the Secret Service agent being
robbed. You know, crime isat an all time high, That crime

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must be a huge problem. Ifcriminals are robbing law enforcement, that is
not a good sign. People you'relistening to later with Moe Kelly on Demand
from KFI AM six forty. It'slater with mo Kelly, Tiffany Hobbs here
with you filling in. Let's wrapup all this crime talk. It's been
too much crime talk at this point. You're probably fatigued with it, and

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you know, either finding a placeto move or figuring out a way to
arm yourself before that tax kicks in. Whatever the case, let's wrap it
up that we can move on.A Secret Service get right back into it,
right. A Secret Service agent wasrobbed at gunpoint in Orange County.
Why is this important? Because hewas just across town from former president or

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former president Wow, I hope that'snot the sooth saying President Biden at Biden's
gala in downtown Los Angeles where theywere raising a whopping thirty million dollars to
support Biden's campaign. This Secret Serviceagent was in Tustin, California, again
Orange County. So it's an OrangeCounty story, Orange County story, and

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he was mine his business when aperson walked up to his car and attempted
to steal a bag out of it. Okay, the Secret Service agent decided
that he would try to correct thiscriminal, and he dislodged his weapon.
Fortunately, no one was hurt,not even the criminal who managed to get

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away. Some of the Secret ServicesSecret Service agent's belongings were recovered later.
But it speaks again to this ideathat crime has no specific victim. You
can be victimized no matter where youare. You can be victimized. At
this point, if you are aSecret Service agent working for President Biden,

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just across town, off duty,minding your business and trying to exist while
you have an off night. Right, that happened, Let's go across town
same same weekend. Downtown Long Beachbusiness owners are upset because of the response
time of police. And I talkedabout this a little bit earlier in the

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stories that we covered because one ofthe things that's been present is that people
are calling police, but they're findingthat the police response time is a little
too long for their liking. Sothey're acting in the interim. They're trying
to fix the situation while the policeare en route. And in this case,

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there are a group of Long Beachbusiness owners thirteen in fact, who
have been victimized over the last twelvedays. So in the last almost two
weeks, thirteen businesses have been vandalized, have been robbed, and these business

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owners are essentially forming a collective todiscuss how frustrated they are with the lack
of prompt response times from law enforcement. And one specific story, a person's
business was vandalized. They called thepolice, and the police responded quote unquote

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when able, which was three hoursand fifty one minutes after the initial dispatch,
So it took almost four hours forpolice to respond, and in the
interim, these business owners decided thatthey would try and do what they could
to both patch up their business,secure their business, and comfort each other.

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But it speaks to a larger problem. It's not always, if at
all, the law enforcements fault fortheir response time. In fact, it's
more so indicative of staffing being understaffed, being stretched so thin because there are
so many crimes happening simultaneously, bigcrimes, small crimes, secret service agents

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and Orange County being robbed. Peopleover here at usc being vandalized and then
being stabbed because of that vandalism.There's crime happening all over the place,
and any glance at your social media, any glance at your local neighborhood crime
reporting app will tell you, andit becomes overwhelming probably like these last stories

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have been if you've been listening.But they're important because you shouldn't know what's
going on around you and how peoplelike yourself are probably feeling. You probably
feel very similar to these Long Beachbusiness owners who are upset that when they
call police, police aren't necessarily respondingin a timely fashion. Who do you

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point fingers at? Who can youblame? It's a blameless situation. Everyone's
doing the best they can with whatthey have. There's one specific woman,
her name is Kimberly Latham. Shewas watching her friend's business. She has
a business herself, Kimberly does.It's right next to her friend's business.
Her friend went out of town andshe's watching this business when all of a

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sudden, security calls her at fouro'clock in the morning and says, hey,
your friend's business is being vandalized.Kimberly gets in the car, she
heads down there, and she findsthat she makes it to the site before
police do. Frustrating and in hermaking it to the site, she and

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others again helped patch up the store, help board up these broken windows.
Her business was the last of thethree that were hit this weekend. Again
adding to the grand total of thirteentotal businesses hit in this one specific area
of the East Village district in LongBeach. So these businesses again are indicative

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of a larger crime wave. There'ssurveillance cameras, there's people paying attention,
there are police who can respond anddo respond in more timely fashions, but
the average is that the time istaking too long, and business owners are
asking for the bleeding to stop.They're saying that it's just a free for

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all. And of course, ifcriminals know that people or police aren't going
to be responding in a timely fashion, what is that then prompt criminals to
do commit more crimes. They knowpolice aren't coming quickly, they have time
to get away, and they knowthat people aren't going to want to confront
them, so they have time toget away. The bleeding has to stop.

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It is just it's hemorrhaging at thispoint around the city. But yes,
yes, crime is going down,so they say so, they say,
I'm using finger quotes. Crime isgoing down. Doesn't feel very much
like it at all. And unlessit feels like crime is going down,
then you're not going to have citizenswho are comfortable either being business owners,

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parking their cars on the street,or just living their lives. It's KFI
AM six forty live everywhere on theiHeartRadio app later with Mo Kelly, but
I am Tiffany Hobbs sitting in.We're watching everything so you can watch your
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