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June 21, 2024 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Guest Host Tiffany Hobbs filling in with a look at the free water playgrounds, now open in Long Beach and the public advisory warning people to stay out of the water at several Los Angeles County beaches…PLUS - A look at the new 'Aquamation' burial process AND the process of “using artificial intelligence ‘future-proof’ of Holocaust survivor testimonies - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to Later with mo Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
It's Later with mo Kelly. I'mTiffany Hobbes. If you're looking for some
relief from the upcoming heat dome heatdome, which just means summer, it
just means summer because summer means hot. Heat dome is just another fancy term

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for summer weather. Don't become alarmed. Just know if you're looking for some
relief from that, and you don'twant to go to one of the city's
cooling centers at our local libraries becauseyou don't want to encounter someone who might
be sleeping in the library bathing inthe library. Whatever the case, Long
Beach has something for you, luckyLong Beach residents. They've opened free water

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playgrounds for summer from now until Septembersecond, which is very much a jip
because summer officially in September twenty first, so I don't know why they're closing
an entire three weeks thoroughly, butwhatever the case, they're open from now
until September second. Right there inLong Beach. They're called we Bit Playgrounds.

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We Bit. I don't like thename of that one we bit,
but we bit playgrounds and they're availableat two locations, one at Alamedo's Beach
and one at Bay Shore Avenue.The parks offer family friendly water activities including
inflatable water structures, springboards, bouncers, monkey bars. They must have a

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very good insurance policy because monkey barsdry are precarious let alone with water and
slippery children and possible adults sliding overthem. But whatever the case, those
are some of the things that willbe some of the activities that will be
available to you at Alamito's Beach BaseSuore Avenue. You'll still be able to
access the beach as well at thoselocations, but should you want to take

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the kids or be a kid yourself, those two water parks will be open
to you. However, in orderto use the water playground, you must
pass a test, and you maywant to study for this because if you
don't pass, you cannot play onthis wee bit playground. And the test

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is a swim test. How discriminatorythey are setting themselves for lawsuits, setting
themselves up for lawsuits galore, becausewhat about inclusivity? What about those people
who can't swim for whatever reason becauseof lack of ability, but because of
perhaps disability or whatever it may be. You have to pass a swim test

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to be able to get on themonkey bars and the inflatables and the bouncers
and the springboards. Get yourselves ready, and any child under nine has to
be accompanied by an adult. That'sa good thing. We don't want nine
year olds running around unattended. Idon't know why it's not ten, because
ten year olds are just as squirrelyas nine year olds, but they feel

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like nine requires supervision. The alsohave life jackets and other personal flotation devices
available. They want to make surethat you are as safe as possible,
and these parks will be free toyou. You can visit the two playgrounds
again at Alamedo's Beach and Base ShoreBeach right there in Long Beach. They

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want you to have a blast,they say, in the water safely in
the city of Long Beach. Becausewhich leads right into our next story.
Should you want to go to anactual, factual, real beach, don't
do that. They are all contaminatedwith bacteria. The public has been advised

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to stay out of Los Angeles Countybeaches, lots of them, not one
or two. They're about one,two, three, four, about eight
of them on this list, manyof which you probably want to visit,
may have been planning to visit.So if you want to go to an
actual, factual beach, be carefulbecause they're contaminated with bacteria and loads of

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other crap, not only in thewater but also in the sand. At
this point, just stay in thehouse, Just be on your front lawn,
get your water hose, spray eachother down. It's safer that way,
it's free, and it's safer thatway. Because officials are saying that

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there are unusually high levels of bacteriain multiple so Cow beaches, these beach
warnings went into effect just this pastTuesday, which is really funny to me
when they kind of tell you thesedates, because let's say you were actually
at the beach on a Tuesday ora Monday or this previous weekend. Who's
to say that the bacteria levels weren'tactually high then why did they just decide

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Tuesday, you know what, we'regoing to issue these sorts of mornings,
and people were flocking to the beachlast weekend, so all those people are
probably sick. Don't hug or kissanyone right now. Excessive bacteria and debris,
and it's seeping from city streets.Disgusting. The runoff is what's making

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its way into the oceans. It'salso runoff from the mountains, and it's
coming from rivers and creeks really niceplaces, but no, they're full of
crap. And it's even spreading itselfout to the sand. So if you
thought you might be able to avoidit by just sunbathing, no, the
bacteria is also right there on thesand with you. Here are some of
the beaches on the list. Getready, get your pin, Get your

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pin, because the first one iswill Rogers State Beach in Santa Monica.
It says one hundred yards up anddown the coast from the creek is where
you need to avoid. One hundredyards up and down the coast from the
creek. Who has a measuring tape? You're at the beach. How do

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you even determine what one hundred yardsis the fact that they're giving you such
such specific coordinates, it just itreally boggles the mind, because who do
they think people are going to getout there to will Rogers State Beach with
their measuring tape and go, Okay, can't go here? Go No,
no, you're two far. It'sone hundred and one yards. No come
back at any rate. Just avoidit. Just avoid will Roger State Beach,

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Just stay out of it. Topang A Canyon Beach in Malibu,
one hundred yards up and down thecoast from the lagoon, just stay away,
don't go, just go across thestreet to Starbucks. Just look at
the beach. From another advantage point, don't even go into the water.
Contaminate yourself with high priced coffee,not bacteria laden water. Also Carbon Canyon

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Beach, which is the entire swimarea, not just one hundred yards one
direction or the other, the entireswim area. So at least they're being
very honest about that. Stay away, Mother's Beach and Marina del Rey,
the entire swim area. Just stayhome, splash yourself with water from the
saint call it a day. Ifyou're hot, just deal with it and

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suffer. Better to be hot thansick with bacteria from someone's street runoff.
Disgusting. There are four more beacheson this list. I'm gonna come back
and give you those next four becauseyou want to know what these are so
that you don't get sick and ifyou get sick. What you should do
because not only are there warnings,but there are things that they tell you

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that you can do in the eventof you getting diarrhea from these beaches.
How fun? What a fun summer? K IF I am six forty Live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You'relistening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM sixty. It's Laterwith Mo Kelly and I'm Tiffany Hobbs.
I was just telling you about thecity's warning to all Los Angelinos and so

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Cow residents to stay out a certainbeaches due to excessive bacteria levels that have
come from City Street runoff. Whata horror movie. In one sentence,
City Street Runoff has been producing alot of crap. And it's in the
water, it's in the ocean,it's in the rivers, the lakes,
and it's on the sand. It'sliterally everywhere. It's probably in the air

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you breathe. But we're talking aboutbeaches, and I just went over the
first four, which included will RogersState Beach in Santa Monica to Panga Canyon
Beach in Malibu, Carbon Canyon Beach, Mother's Beach, and Marina del Rey,
and then the next four include MalibuLagoon at Surf Rider Beach, super

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popular destination, and they want youto stay one hundred yards up and down
the coast from the public restrooms.Stuff is laughing because the fact that they
included from the public restrooms tells youall you need to know about where that
potential runoff is probably coming from.Don't go to Malibu's Malibu Lagoon and Surf

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Rider Beach, don't do it.There's also Santa Monica Pier in Santa Monica.
That's a given. We all knowthat that's never been a place that
you probably want to dip a toein. It's one, it's the pier.
There's also Trenka's Creek at Zuma Beach. I love Zuma. Zuma's Zuma
looks great. You wouldn't think thatZuma would be victim to this, but

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it is. And they want youto stay one hundred yards up and down
the coast from the creek. Soagain, take your measuring tape so that
you don't get sick. And thenMalibu Pier in Malibu, where you'll see
a lot of teenagers this summer.It's a very popular hangout destination. They
are to stay one hundred yard.It's up and down the coast from the
pier lest you get sick. Avoidswimming, surfing, and playing in ocean

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waters. At this time, youmight be thinking, what's the time frame
here? They have not given one. City officials have left this open ended
because it is indefinite at this point. Just don't go, don't go.
Just skip it this summer again.Stay in your front yard, throw some
water balloons, get you a littlekiddy waiting pool from the store. Whatever
you need to do. Keep yourselfsafe because the health department will test the

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ocean water bacteria and then get backto you about what they found. They're
not going to tell you what theyfound. They're just gonna say it's closed
or it's open because there are standardsthat they're judging this bacteria by. None
of us can see those standards.They're in some ambiguous, secret, locked
place that none of us are privyto because they know if we do see

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that, we'll probably have a conniptionfit. Just stay out of the water.
But if you do have an emergency, call nine one one. That's
what they say. Beaches are tryingto kill you, so is your tesla
Diana has owned her model Wide Teslafor about three years with no serious complaints.

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Pretty pretty happy. It's a funcar to drive. Well that changed
last month when she tried to gofor a drive so it was fully charged.
I went unplugged the car, wentto get in my car, shut
the door and everything just shut down. Could open windows, I couldn't unlock
the doors. I was just trapped. Yeah, you heard right. Diana
was stuck inside of her own car. She went and checked the owner's man

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to try to figure out what wasgoing on, but that was impossible because
the glove box wouldn't open either.I called a friend of mine in the
neighborhood. I said, you know, can you please come over right away.
I'm trapped in the car. Hecame over. He couldn't figure it
out. He says, no wayto open the car from the outside.
Diane got on the Tesla app andrequested emergency roadside assistance, and eventually they

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let her know through a text messagethat there's a secret latch to open the
door. A secret latch located it. Diane was finally able to get out
of her Tesla. It's scary.It's very unnerving, to say the least,
Diane's not alone. There have beennumerous reports of Tesla drivers being trapped
in her car when the battery diesand all the electronics shut down. Here's

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the problem. Like most electric vehicles, Teslas have a main battery that powers
the car, but also a smallerbattery that powers all the onboard electronics that
includes the door release and the powerwindows. Absolute, guys, the doors
and the windows won't work. Thereis no warning when it's lower or back
to go out, so it justshuts down. It just shuts down.

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It just shuts down. Can youwhat your tongue? You paid fifty five
thousand dollars for this model C andit's going to try and kill you.
If you want something to try andkill you, probably could do it for
a lot. I don't understand whythere's a secret latch in the first place
that no one seems to know aboutunless you read the owner's manual. In

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this case, this poor woman,Diane actually had to call the Tesla kind
of call center and ask, hey, where's the release? How do I
get out of here? And theysaid, oh, there's a secret button
you push, and she pushes thebutton and it opens. But why do
you have to go through these measuresto be able to release yourself from the

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throes of your vehicle. And thisis not unique, unto Diane. No,
this has happened to numerous people.One woman reported that she was in
her Tesla, and of course thisstory is out of northern California, because
why wouldn't it be, but thatshe was in her Tesla and that temperatures
reached over one hundred degrees when hercar battery died. She couldn't get out.

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The doors locked, the windows locked, and she was stuck in the
car as the temperature outside was soreand the temperature, as you know,
inside of the car is soaring reallyquickly, and she starts to panic.
Fortunately she got out, or elsewe would have been hearing about this in
a different way. But can youimagine being locked in your car, locked

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in your car simply because the electricitydecides to go out again. There are
a lot more affordable ways to dodamage to yourself if that's something that you
want to do. And Diane said, or this other woman said that last
month she was sitting in a Chickfil A parking lot when this happened.
This feels like purgatory. This feelslike just a bad dream. She's got

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trapped in her vehicle in a Chickfil A parking lot, and she of
course took to TikTok because she survived, and she recounted all the harrowing details
of her ordeal in a very dramaticretelling. But the fact that she was
locked in her car and it tookher twenty four minutes to get out,

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actually no, it says here ittook her forty minutes. Forty minutes to
get out. The panic that wouldensue, the sweating that is occurring inside
of these teslas, the abject horrorthat people are being subjected to because they're
being locked in their cars. Mark, I feel like you're rolling your eyes
at this story and dream of it. It does not seem, though,

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like an exaggeration, to say thata day doesn't go by when you don't
hear about some awful Tesla news,whether it's a recall or some horrific mishap.
Does this not seem true to you? This is absolutely true at this
point. It's like the beaches.There are warnings that are issued for Tesla's
every way, every which way youlook, and whether it's them trying to
kill you, or the driving mechanismthat's automatic or driverless mechanism taking over,

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whatever the case. Or you can'tcharge it because it's too cold, or
you can't charge it because it's toohot. But at this point, it's
just a liability to own one.By golly, if I didn't know better,
I'd start to wonder if that ElonMusk wasn't the visionary genius he's been
made out to be. You know, I think you might be onto something.

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This bears closer examination. I thinkwhen we come back, we're going
to talk not about Tesla, butwe're going to talk about what you can
do if, for some reason,you die and you don't want to be
buried, you want something a littledifferent. We'll come back and we'll talk
about that. You're listening to Laterwith Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM

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six forty. It's Later with MoKelly. I'm Tiffany Hobbs. Have you
thought about how you want to bemanaged when you die. Maybe there's burial,
cremation might have come up. Perhapsyou want to be shot into space.
Some people have taken to being turnedinto trees. I know that's something

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I've looked into testing, becoming apod and then a tree, and people
will be picnicking on you and notknow that they're on your deceased body,
your remains, as they're enjoying theirsandwiches and they're drinks, whatever the case.
That's just me. There are manyoptions for you when you die,

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and at this point you can takecontrol of what happens to your remains.
Are you still listening? There's yetanother option, and that option is called
being aquamated. Aquamated what is oquamation? It's the process by which a body

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is reduced to liquid. With cremation, a body is turned into ashes with
high heat. They crank up theheat, reduce the body to ashes.
Those ashes are handed over to aloved one with burial, right into the
ground, Right into the ground,no frills, Boom, you're in the
ground. Easy pace, eazylemon squeeze. But aquamation's thought to be a little

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stranger, a bit more involved.It uses alkaline hydrolysis, which again reduces
a body to liquid. There arestill bones, and those bones can be
reduced to a powder, a finepowder, and given to loved ones.
But the body itself becomes liquefied andthat liquid can be repurposed for planting,

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kind of for aquaponics, if youwill, you can use that liquid to
do all sorts of things like fertilizeaground. Are you still listening, All
right, let's keep going. It'sthought to be more eco friendly. It's
more eco friendly because with cremation youhave high heat, you have gases that
are released. It's thought to leavea pretty sizeable carbon imprint. But with

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aquamation, none of that is atplay. There are no gas. Again,
it's a pressurized vessel by which abody is put into this format,
into this structure and liquefied. It'svery complicated, it costs more, but
again you're helping the earth. Inyour demise, you're helping the earth.

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That's your legacy. You're not taking. You are giving into the earth.
You are becoming a tree. Youare now part of the street runoff and
you're going into the ocean. Idon't know what you're doing with your body,
but that is one way that youcan go ahead and dispose of yourself.
And if you're wondering what happens tothe liquefied remains in the solution afterward,

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it can again be used as fertilizerbecause it contains salts and amino acids.
What happens to the leftover liquid becausethey're not going to use all of
you, They're only going to usea portion of you. This gets very
grim. The leftover liquid and beneutralized and released safely into water ways.

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See what did I tell you?You're going into the ocean, You're going
into the river. You're going intoMark's backyard when he's watering his plants.
That's not going to be water comingout of there anymore. Mark. No,
I actually know a handful of peoplewho are good to go as fertilizer
just as it is. We're tryingto say it, Mark, That's all

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I'm going to say, is thatwhat you're saying. Yeah, thank you
for that first one of the night. Oh, come on, fine,
you earned it. You were outyesterday. That was a conciliatory one.
Well, there's no need to cheapin it. This process has been made
legal in a lot of the Northwestterritories, which is really funny because they

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specify that they want to make surethat we understand that this is kind of
outside of the scope of the UnitedStates. It's mainly in Ontario, Canada,
not Ontario, California down there wherewe were talking about these other stories,
right Quebec, Canada, Sasketchewan,Costa Rica, Mexico and South Africa.
There's one particular face a famous personwho opted for aquamation. He used

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this method Archbishop tu Too ip Trustand the Desmond and Leah Tutu Legacy Foundation
decided that the anti apartheid hero Desmondin PLO Two two would be aquimated upon
his death in twenty twenty one.So why is this important? Because it's

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showing that nobility has used this before, which means that you, upion,
can use aquamation should you want togo ahead and take that route. Because
this person to Too received the NobelPrize for peace, why can't you then
use aquamation upon he's a noble Yousitting over there and wherever you're sitting should

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be able to take this on aswell as an effort to help the planet.
If he can do it, they'resaying, basically, so can you.
I'm shaking my head at that,because never use nobility as a qualifier
of ethics and morality and a barometeras to what you should do as a
human being. But this is whatthe story says it also releases you from

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the expenses of coffins and other burialaccessories that can get into the thousands,
so you can obviously re route flowersand things like that because you're not there.
You're not there. I don't knowif i'd want to do this.
It seems very needlessly complicated. LikeI said, I've thought about the tree

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pod thing. I like that asan alternative. It feels very sweet.
I don't know, it feels likeyou're giving something back, but aquaponics just
feels kind of messy. And Idon't like the idea that they're not using
all of me. They're just takingportions. And I'm like, what portion
of me are you putting into thistree? Because what if I want all

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of me? A percentage of meis now street runoff and going if they
literally say it, they're steph.They're saying that the street runoff becomes you,
And I don't understand why this isokay. So you've become part of
the bacteria that is that we can'tfor the reason we can't go in the
water. That's probably what's going Andsee, this is why they're not saying

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the standards by which they're measuring bacteriain the water because they don't want to
tell us that there are bodily remainsin the water. Stuff. Oh boy,
that's what's going on. Keep yourmouth closed in the water because you
don't want me straight Tiffany getting intoit. Oh, I'm still very much
alive. Don't you give him?Don't you do it? Don't you do
it? Stuff? I see he'sdon't you laugh too much? Laughed.

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We're going Look at the time.I know, I know, I know,
I know what Mo does. Lookat the time. Let's get out
of here. When we come back, we're going to talk about how Holocaust.
Holocaust survivors are using AI to bridgethe educational gap between what they experienced
and what students today are learning,and how AI can help not hurt that

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process. You're listening to Later withMoe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six
forty later with Mo Kelly, I'mfilling in. I'm Tiffany Hobbes here.
The Holocaust. The Holocaust was thehorrific genocide of over six million European Jews

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during World War Two in Nazi Germany. It ended, as we know it
in nineteen forty five, but theeffects of the Holocaust continue to be felt
some eighty plus years later, asrising anti Semitic ideologies are evidenced around the
world, and in light of what'sgoing on globally, there have been a

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number of stories in the news aboutanti Semitism and the effects Therein divers of
the Holocaust, those who are stillalive pass away, so also do their
first hand experiences. As they passaway, they're unable to engage in that
oral tradition where they can share whatthey went through and be able to allow

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that sort of again first hand retelling, that personalization of those horrors so that
they can make real their experiences.UK schools schools in the United Kingdom are
aiming to remedy that with the useof artificial intelligence. How are they trying

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to use AI? AI has itspitfalls. We can talk about that all
day. We just had a tesla'sstory that's artificial intelligence about people being locked
in their cars and not being ableto get out when the battery dies.
And there are benefits of AI.I know Mo and Twala, Mark and
Steph have these commons often and sometimesthey're split, but I think we all

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could galvanize behind the virtues of thisspecific usage of artificial intelligence, and what
this program aims to do in theUnited Kingdom is that it will future proof
the testimonies of Holocaust survivors and allowface to face technology to be used by

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students. What do I mean.I mean students will put on a virtual
reality headset and they will be ableto actually watch a Holocaust survivor retell their
stories directly to that student in whatis considered to be a person to person
format, just like a conversation twopeople talking, except it is spearheaded and

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facilitated by virtual intelligence AI. Butthe Holocaust survivor will be able to tell
exactly what he's she went through,and that student then will have that experience
again animated in a way that takesit off of the pages of books and
makes it that much more concrete.It will be a virtual replication of that

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experienced experience with that Holocaust survivor directly, and you'll just use a laptop and
headphones. As Holocaust survivors pass awayagain, so do their stories. Their
stories that are cemented there are museums. But as we get further and further

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away from nineteen forty five, soseemingly does the importance placed on paying attention
to those stories and what happened duringthat time. We see it all around
the country. Critical race theory isdisappearing in certain parts of the country.
This is a part of critical racetheory. It is cultural theory. Were

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talking about history that is specific ontocertain cultures, and as these sorts of
topics, these sorts of classes andthis type of content is reduced, you'll
lose will lose those stories. Sothe UK has spearheaded this pilot. They're
using it in fifteen schools with eighthundred students, using what they considered to

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be a stimulating and critical Owing tothe rise of anti Semitism and the declining
numbers of Holocaust survivors. Survivors throughtheir testimonies and through their stories, it's
actually mandatory in the United Kingdom forstudents to learn about the Holocaust. I
don't believe it's mandatory teaching here inthe United States. I am a teacher.

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I don't remember seeing anything that saysit is mandatory to learn about the
Holocaust. I teach it because it'sextremely important. But I will tell you
when I get students into my uppergrades, there are many who have never
heard about this period of time outsideof warfare. They don't know the intricacies

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and the nuances of what happened culturally, what happened during this genocide, the
six million who were slaughtered because ofbeing in Nazi Germany. In the UK,
again, they make sure they say, quote unquote that young people are
aware of the atrocities of the Holocaust. That's according to their government, So

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it's mandated. We don't necessarily havethat kind of mandate here. If you
do know that there is a mandate, please correct me on that. But
as I know it, there's noteit's more or less subjective. If you
feel like it's important to teach,you teach it. But it should be
important to everyone In the UK,they're saying it is, and it's so

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important that they're going to employ artificialtechnology to step in and reinforce those stories.
There are people who say that itcould be a little weird to put
students of varying ages, varying abilities, cognitive abilities and whatnot face to face
with people who've gone through such atrocities, But ultimately they're saying that the opportunity

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of being able to hear a personoutweighs any sort of potential discomfort that that
interaction may present, because if youdon't know what happens, you are doomed
to repeat it. There's an educatorin UK. Her name is Gabriella Burton
and she has children who are involvedin this pilot. She says that they've

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been responding very positively to the program, that it's been again amplifying Holocaust education,
and she considers it to be revolutionary. She says it's fantastic. There's
a student who is in fifth gradewho said that it was a very emotion
experience. So again, it reallytakes something that may be a bit ambiguous,

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it might be a bit removed forothers, and it makes it real.
We need that this was a veryreal event and if we're going to
thwart anti Semitism, if we're goingto thwart other sorts of discrimination, because
this can be used for a lotof other instances. I'm thinking of many
other horrors outside of the Holocaust whereAI could be used as an advantage to

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get people's personal stories. If we'regoing to try and mitigate that, then
we need to educate this next generationon what happened so that they are not
doomed to repeat it. KFI AMsix forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
It's Later with Mo Kelly. I'mTiffany Hobbs. Well, at least
you've decided to listen to KFI.See you're making progress. KSI and KOST

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