The Push to Ban TikTok in the U.S., the Dangers of Social-Media Algorithms & MORE

ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Guest Host Chris Merrill filling in with thoughts on the ongoing push to ban TikTok in the United States AND social-media algorithms that recommend “sexual videos” to teen accounts…PLUS – A look at just how dangerous sneezing can be - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to Later with mo Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
This hour, Easy ways to trackyour adult children and the worst way to
blow out your rectum all part ofthis exciting final hour of The mo Kelly
Show. So you got that goingfor you? Uh? First back of

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the news, t Talk is sayingthat the US is being very unfair.
They say that the possible ban isall about cruelty. The video apps first
legal brief challenges the Biden administration's saleor ban law. You're familiar with this
that accuses government officials of adopting thestance of unmoored from reality. This from

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the Washington Post. They say thatthe ban of their product Katak is unconstitutional
and the result of political demagoguery andshould be overturned. To Talk attorneys said
in court on a brief on Thursday, marking the start of one of the
most consequential legal battles in American Internethistory. We already know that the Supreme
Court is set to rule on someother social media battles that should come out

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this week. TikTok filed the briefsby dancing them into court, recording them
and posting it on their own platform. A group of eight creators on TikTok
are representing the victims I guess inthis case, and they say it's not
fair to make TikTok sell off becausethey're owned by China. Not China,

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but China's company, a Chinese basedcompany called byte Dance. And they said,
Byte Dance, you've got to selloff all your crap by January nineteenth,
or we will ban TikTok in theUnited States. Okay, let me
tell you what is never going tohappen. We are not banning TikTok in

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the United States. You've probably heardpeople say it's gonna happen. You've heard
politicians say we have to get theChinese Communist Party out of our devices.
We've got to take a stand.We will not. We will not take
a stand. In fact, theclosest example I have of actually taking a
stand against a foreign owned entity thathas widespread adoption in the United States is

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news I got this week that Kasperski, if you're unfamiliar, it's an antivirus
program, is going to have tostop operations in the US or partner up
with the third party, which isa downer because I have Ksperski. It's
been a decent antivirus program and it'son a number of my computers, and
I still have three hundred and seventyone I checked today. I have three

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hundred and seventy one days left inmy subscription, and it looks like I
will not be able to get updatesafter September. That's a booger unless Kasperski
works with a third party, anAmerican third party. Protectionism at its finest,
I will end up switching to anotherprovider. Bit defender of that asked
Norton something like that, right,Okay. When it comes to TikTok,

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they're not switching the US will thepoliticians are not going to make TikTok users
switch to a US based service.They will make TikTok sell to a US
based operator. They're happy to dothat. That's protectionism. They want to
make sure that they take the profitsaway from China and Chinese owned companies,

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and they want to put it inthe hands of American companies. Although TikTok
could sell to somebody based in Irelandfor all we know, it doesn't matter
as long as it's not a Chinesebased owner. Okay, So what are
the alternatives. It may be anopportunity to see emerging and emerging social media
provider fill avoid. Sure, that'spossible, and we know that social media

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companies come and go the heat.They had peak popularity and then they kind
of fizzle out. We've seen thatFacebook's usage has dropped mostly because it turned
into the old people social media.Ain't that a booger, right? So
anyway, they're not gonna ban TikTok. Let me cut to the chase here,

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because banning TikTok would mean people aregonna end up going to what Instagram,
which would mean Meta and Facebook.And as we all know, the
politicians who want to stop the evilChinese Communist Party also don't want people using
Zuckerberg's social media because well he's aterrible San Francisco communist of some sort,

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right, that'll be the latest target. So it's not happening. I don't
expect that to happen. I donot expect that to happen at all.
That said, speaking of Instagram,did you see Instagram got in more trouble
for being creepy as hell? Sothe latest is that Instagram was showing it's
not s actually explicit because they don'tallow for sexual explicit stuff, but they

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were recommending sexually charged videos to thirteenyear olds. Yeah, Instagram recommend regularly
recommend sexual videos to accounts for teenagersthat appear interested in racy content, and
does so within minutes of when theyfirst log in. That according to test
by the Wall Street Journal, testrun over seven months ending this month show

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the social media service has continued pushingadult oriented content to minors after Meta said
in January it was giving teens moreage appropriate experience by restricting what it calls
sensitive content, including sexually suggestive material. In other words, they're supposed to
be cleaning things up, but thirteenyear old boys, specifically, we're getting
onto Instagram and doing what thirteen yearold boys do. They were searching for

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hashtag boobs and what did they get? Hashtag boobs yep. So basically the
algorithm was doing exactly as it should, except it's not supposed to be doing
that for thirteen year olds. Sothere's the delio. Adult sex content creators

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began appearing in the feeds in aslittle as three minutes after less than twenty
minutes of watching reels reels of courseof sexually suggestive material. Okay, Mark,
you were a thirteen year old boy. Twela, you were a thirteen
year old boy. Fush you werea thirteen year old boy. Did you
ever sit and watch twenty minutes ofprovocative videos? I was like five minutes

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tops, twenty minutes, two minuteseating child a pizza. Why are you
watching for twenty minutes? Yeah?I hear that longevity. That's that's some
stamina story played out, you know. Oh it's a good call. Yes,
please. But the thing is,there's a storyline with these things.

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There should be there should be storyline, but the reels are all like a
minute, minute and a half somethinglike that. So yeah, and to
think some people don't think we shouldregulate social media. I'll tell you where
you see open full on pornography isTwitter now slash Twitter slash x. Is
that the site? Is that atTwitter slash x? I bet you can

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find it. Oh okay, butjust during normal run of the mill stuff.
Yeah, hardcore porn pops up onTwitter now. Yeah, well that's
because you're in the algorithm. No, it doesn't pop up for me.
Well no, I mean I don'tsearch for this stuff, but it just
comes up in the in the courseof a regular feed, like and then

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obviously you click on that and yousee what the comments are, and then
you follow those feeds. I getit. I'm there with you. I
understand totally. It's kind of shocking. Actually, it's like the wild Wild
West on there because yeah, itwill be they won't censor anything, like
nothing full on. Yeah. Imean, it's like it's filmed in Georgia.
They have no rules there. Itis bad. Yeah, truck another

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one up for free speech crusader Elmoin fairness. Though Twitter always allowed explicit
content, it's just that. Yeah, yeah they did, because that would
I mean, that's what I hear. Upscrew it. Yeah, that's a
go to. All right, that'sa I'm not even gonna lie to you
anymore. That's a go to.But did you find did I find some?

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You know it's in my feed?Oh okay, like you only mine
is in the feed because I'm inthe algorithm. Yeah, it's a go
to. Uh. I mean,but I literally I only follow uh like
politics and news stuff and a handfulof showbiz stuff, not things that would
lend itself to full on porn poppingup in my feed. That's not exactly
true. Because if you're following politicians, you ended up on the algorithm that

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focuses in on whores. So whatI did there, I feel like I
should recuse myself starting right about nowthat I did right there. Yeah see
I pulled that around. Yeah.By the way, speaking of that,
I do want to tell you oneof the reasons another good reason to consider
regulating. And I know you absolutionistsdon't like the idea of regulating at all,

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but it is hitting hard that agegroup that we're talking about, the
under fourteen ers. I'll tell youhow bad it's gotten and what some parents
are doing but going a little toofar. That is next up you're listening
too. Later with Moe Kelly ondemand from KFI A six forty, we
were talking about the algorithms for Instagram, for Twitter, and TikTok. I

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don't think TikTok is going anywhere,and listen, I've been wrong about things
before, not very often, butit happens. And I just don't see
TikTok suddenly deciding excuse me. Idon't see the United States actually going through
with a band on TikTok. Ijust don't see it. I think there's
going to be some sort of asolution to this, whether it's a legal

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solution, and I know the politiciansare watching to see what the judges say,
or it's going to be a businesssolution, whatever it is. I
don't think TikTok is going anywhere,but some people are scrambling. In the
meantime, we talked about the algorithmsthat are recommending sexual videos to people who
are younger, and this is havingreal life repercussions. We know that the

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more social media use young people have, the more difficult time they have in
school. There have been numerous studiesabout that. There are new surveys now
where teens are asked about symptoms ofmental health. And aside from the surveys,
we actually have some empirical data togo with that. Because eer admissions

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for self harm have now quintupled amongten to fourteen year old girls. They've
doubled among fifteen to nineteen year oldgirls. And that is not great.
Quintupled by the way mark that's Latinfive times. Oh thank you for that.
Yeah, you're welcome. So theysay self harm is much more common

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among girls than among boys. Theysay er admissions for the self farm continuing
to increase among American girls. Thecomparison is from two thousand and nine to
twenty twenty two. So it's notlike we're saying, oh, self farm
has increased since nineteen twenty one.No, just in the last thirteen years.

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And again the study is through twentytwenty two. It takes a year
for somebody to get the paperwork together, and so now we're seeing these instances
where they're headed to the hospital,to the er because of self harm.
So that's problematic. Some parents aretaking it upon themselves to make sure that
they're watching their kids to the pointwhere do you remember there were what was

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the term that they used for parentsand millenials? Was it helicopter parents?
That sounds right? Are those theones that hover? Am I right on
that they hover over their kids andjust make sure their kids are never in
danger that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, as a childless bachelor,
that sounds about right to me.Nailed it. Listen, smartest movie you
ever made was that visectomy when youwere fourteen? Smart? I wish uh.

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Location sharing tools helped give parents peaceof mind and ease the logistical burdens
of raising a family. They're trackingtheir kids. One of the things that
as a parent was recommended to me. They said, you should put keyloggers
on your kids computers. It's basicallyspywear that you're intentionally putting on your kids
computers. So that was let's seemy kids. It would have been yeah,

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early twenty tens. I suppose whenwhen we had the kids getting there
their computers and access to the computers, that kind of thing, right,
I guess to be that mid twothousands. I suppose, let's say two
thousand and five, two ten inthat area, and they said keyloggers.
Now, technology has advanced since then, and social media's had been since then,
so it's a whole lot more thanjust what are kids searching online?

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Are they in chat rooms? Now? It's that they're on social media this
sort of thing. According to thelatest eighty four percent of parents use some
form of tracking to monitor their kids. I'm not opposed to that. I
don't think it's a bad idea toslip a an Apple tracking device where they
call that the Apple tag, amI right? I think those are to

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locate actual physical objects, right,But you could put it in your kids
backpack, yeah, or their lunchpail or whatever. Else. They even
make some They make all kinds ofthings you could put it in their shoes.
They make certain little attachments, allsorts of accessories around that stuff.
Oh, I think at this pointyou should microchip your kids like their dogs.
Listen, put it under the miclekipping everybody. How much crime would

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drop if we just started microchipping people, it'd be non existent. Uh.
The location sharing, they say,though, is going a little bit far.
Not only do you have these differenttracking apps that they're putting on some
of the phones of the kids,now they're going so far as to keep
track of their kids even after thekids leave for college. You probably had

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the story. Did you guys talkabout this with mo? The story about
gen Z was bringing their parents tojob interviews. No, Oh, you
didn't have that one. Yeah.I think it's like twenty five percent of
gen Z has admitted to bringing theirkids to job interviews. However, you
have to be a little bit cautiouswhen you evaluate that because gen Z is

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anywhere from twelve years old to twentyseven years old. And I don't think
it's unreasonable as a parent for meto take my child to a job interview
if they're fifteen, My daughter gota job slinging corn dogs at the fair
in San Diego one time, right, she was at the fair in Delmar
and her first job ever slinging corndogs at one of the roach coaches for

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however long it was there, themonth long that it was at the the
Delmar Fairgrounds Lincoln corn dogs. Ilike that. Yeah, yeah, now
listen, I took her to thejob because she couldn't drive, So,
yeah, of course you take yourkids to their job interviews if they're fifteen
years old. Where it got alittle bit weird is that there were some

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instances where young adults were going tojob interviews and their parents were actually going
into the interview with them. Thoseinstances were far less common, but not
unheard of, and parents were evenanswering some of the questions to help their
kids get the job. But asa hiring manager, are you ever hiring
somebody who brings their parents in andtheir parents have to answer the questions?

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My god, that's just like sayingI'm I'm hiring a giant Burden or Norman
Bates. Granted, Norman Bates didhave one job skill, Taxidermy few people
could do it better than him.What are you gonna do for a rim
shot around here? Honestly, thereis the other side of not taking your

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kids to the job interview though,and that is something because this is what
we do. We give new namesto things meats, meats, meat net,
that's not in employment, education ortraining. It's a growing number of
gen z that have decided they're justgoing to be meats, not employed,

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not educating, not training. Thereyou go, and what do they do?
They sponge off their parents to realfailure launch situation. People in their
twenties are taking home a salary ofabout forty five thousand dollars, while millennials
we're earning fifty one thousand dollars attheir age, and so a number of
gen z say it's not even worthit. Of those survey between eighteen and

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thirty four years old, more thanhalf say it's much harder to buy a
home. Duh, of course itis just shy of a half say it's
harder to find a job. That'snot true. Unemployment is low, and
over half say it's harder to getpromoted. That might be because well,
you keep wearing the hoodies to work. Stop wearing hoodies to work, all
right? There you go. That'syou're the kids these days. That's all

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I got for this segment. Allright, The worst way to have a
rectal blowout, and it could happento anyways happened. What do you want
from? Of course, I'm tryingto offer a tease for what we have.
This is important stuff. No,I'm I'm behind you one hundred percent,
not actually not actually behind you.No, yeah, that's good.

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All right. Uh, the worstway and it could happen to any of
us at any moment. That isnext Chris Maryland from O Kelly KFI AM
six forty Live Everywhere in your iHeartready to app you're listening to Later with
Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AMsix forty. Take a moment, talk
about your health and your meds.I want you to think of times that

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you've heard people losing their bowels.Now, I know you're probably thinking,
what is the matter with you?But think about this. There are a
couple of places I've heard of thishappening. One no joke, swimming pool
drains. People go to the bottomof the swimming pool and they sit on

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the drink. Kids do this.They sit on the drain because it's fun
and then but the drain is andthen Yeah. The other that I've heard
of is I think it's more prevalenton like cruise ships. The cruise ship
commodes have that section, and sopeople this happens to the older people who

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are on the cruise ships. They'resitting on there and they they're keyster forms
of seal on the seat and theyflush while they're there courtesy flush, I
guess for themselves. And then theyget stuck and that stuff happens. That's
a reality. Well, let's faceit, you'd have to be either on
a cruise ship or sitting on apool drain for either one of those things

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to happen. Is it possible toblow it out your butt or elsewhere?
By not engaging in any of thoseare all of us at risk? The
answer is kind of kind. There'sa guy in Florida that lost his bowels.

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Now I don't mean the contents ofhis bottles, I mean literally pieces
of his intestine. His situation wasa little bit unique, although I feel
like I've come close to this morethan once. So there's this guy in
Florida and he had abdominal surgery andhis surgical scar wasn't healing properly. Now,

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full disclosure, I actually did havesurgery on my guts about ten years
ago, and so I've got ascar there right. It's disgusting. Thank
God married, because otherwise it's atotal turn off, and my wife is
stuck with me. Now, SoI've got this scar, and last year,
all of a sudden, I startedfeeling this bulge and it herniated,

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so right at that scar kind oflike my guts started popping out of the
scar. Now, when I hadmy abdominal surgery, this scar I actually
did have. I know it wasprobably too much detail, but I did
have a bag for about three monthswhile the rest of my guts healed.
So my intestines were intentionally sewn tothe outside of my body for about three
months. And then they did whatthey call a takedown in ost to me,

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takedown, and they did that andthey sewed it all up and everything
was fine for about eight or nineyears, and then it herniated. So
I had like parts of my gutswere kind of boo, kind of poked
through my abdominal wall. So thisguy in a similar situation in Florida,
and of course it happens in Florida. This guy's got a surgical scar.
They say it wasn't healing properly afterhis abdominal surgery. So he's having breakfast,

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no big and he sneezes. Now. I don't know about you,
but I've had some sneezes where Isneeze and suddenly and I listen. I've
googled this more than once. Ithink I'm having a heart attack. I
feel this immense pain, especially aroundmy clavicle on my left side usually,

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and I'm thinking i have pain inmy left arm, in my clavicle and
kind of along my chest. I'mhaving that sneeze gave me a heart attack,
and I googled it. This isbefore I was loyal to bing,
so I googled it and Google said, no, you're not having a heart
attack. This is just it happenedsometimes. So that didn't make me feel

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a whole lot better because it stillfeels like I'm having a heart attack.
This only was big sneezes. Sohis student in Florida has a big sneeze,
he doesn't get pain on his claviicaland his arm. Instead, he
has pain and a wet sensation aroundhis scar, which again wasn't healing quite
right. He sneezed and started coughing. He lifted up his shirt and it

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was like he was in a horrormovie. They discovered he discovered at the
time several loops of his bowel hadburst through his unhealed wound. That happened.
He was rushed to the hospital foremergency surgery, where his bowels were
returned to his abdomen. Now,the thing is, there's certain connective tissue

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and then they're supposed to stop yourguts from falling out. That's supposed to
happen, right, I mean,your gutst just float around in there.
I don't know if you ever thoughtabout that. You ever think of the
diagram of the body when you werein high school and they said, well,
this is where your liver is,and this is where your gallbladder is,
and this is where your intestine,your small intestine, and then your
large intestine loops over it. Andyour large intestine goes from one side,

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goes from where your appendix is,and it kind of goes up and then
crosses across your whole body under theliver, and then it goes all the
way over to the left side ofyour body and then it kind of drops
down and then it does this weirdloop thing that's called the sigmoid colon.
You're welcome, and then it headson out to your poop shoot. And
what we what we you have toknow is if we didn't have this connective
tissue, it would just be movingall over the place all the time.

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Instead, it stays generally where it'ssupposed to. Your bladder stays where it's
supposed to your gallbladder. You're pancreas, all the other all the guts they
weren't supposed to because of this connectivetissue. This guy sneezed and basically blew
all that connective tissue away. Ittook the first dex that it could,
so that happened. Now, I'mnot saying that you're gonna have a sneeze
and it's gonna rip your stomach openand your guts are gonna fall out.

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That's probably not gonna happen. ButI'll bet if we look at the anals
of hissed annals of history, wecould probably find an example of somebody having
an incredible sneeze. I'm saying,I bet it happened. That's what I'm
that's my my hypothesis here. So, uh where was I Let's see,
uh hernie eating poop shoot all thatkind of stuff. Uh yeah, I'm

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Chris Merril k IF I AM sixqureliveeverywhere on the iHeartRadio app you're listening to
Later with O Kelly on demand fromKFI AM six forty. You know,
we made mention of terrible, terribleways of losing your guts having it to
completely blow out, like one guyin floridahead. Some people are turning away

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from modern medicine and turning to somethingthat they believe is far better. I'm
gonna guess correct me if I'm wrongon this. Guys, But isn't this
like mostly like a white woman thing? Am I wrong on this? Wait?
The healing crystals? They're turning tohealing crystals? Yeah, so I

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feel like this is if you're amiddle aged white woman healing crystals. What's
the other one that God I got? My sister in law likes to sell
that crap. It's the essential oils. That's it. She got into the
pyramid schemer on the essential oils.It's not a pyramid scheme. It's multi
level marketing. You wouldn't understand.Okay, so oh yeah, it's the

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healing crystals. Do you know whoneeds healing crystals to help heal their ailments?
You know aliens. No, it'sa good call. Yeah, George
Noria might be selling them healing crystalsand we'll find out. No, it's
actually the people who have to minethe healing crystals come to find out being
a healing crystal miner is actually quitepainful. That's not far from the actual

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headline the Wall Street Journal. Thissays the painful truth about healing crystals,
and the Wall Street Journal runs thisarticle to talking about Linky MAGOODI and I'm
sure I mispronounced that name, justlike I will mispronounce the name of this
place in South Africa, Buckenhothek.Just over a year ago. She moved
there for a job. She wantedto make a living finding crystals that underlie

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this town, the only place wherecactus quartz has been discovered. Now,
if you're unfamiliar with cactus quartz,cactus quartz are typically a large central crystal
encrusted with smaller crystals growing around it. It can sell for as much as
forty thousand dollars, so it's notunlike diamond mining, right, how much

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do you think that linky Mogei earnsmining these forty thousand dollars crystals. Let's
take a guess here. I'll tellyou it's an even. It's an even
divisor on this one. So thoughit be zero, she makes no,
no, she makes She makes fourdollars a day, four dollars a day,

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generous. What does she do withall the extra She doesn't have a
whole lot of extra time, becauseshe actually digs for around ten to twelve
hours a day and only takes oneSunday off each month in order to mine
these crystals. Four dollars a day, seven days a week, thirty days

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a month, which means she getsa day off in April, June and
November. Right April, June,September, November. Trying to think of
yeah, that's right, So fourdays off a year she gets basically,
yeah, that's nice. Maybe twelvedays if she's feeling like really treating herself.

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So that's what she gets. Sothe next time you have somebody telling
you you need to get healing crystals, just remember that a person who is
literally surrounded by the source of thehealing crystals is suffering a great deal of
medical pain because she digs in atiny hole all day for four dollars a

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day, and you know what,she's not very healed. So there is
what they call very little scientific evidence. One other piece of not approved by
the FDA white noise machines. Doyou have a Now these are pretty popular,
the white noise machines. These arethe things that they just while you're

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sleeping, kind of like tuning intoa radio station that just has static,
Like you tuned into a signal thathas no station. We've all done that
before, right, So yeah,that's the white noise and a lot of
people are turning on white noise machines. Mark. This would be like when
you were a kid and you youwatched Carson and then they played the national

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anthem and then it just went ohyeah for the next six hours. Right,
So, white noise, made upof different frequencies, creates a background
sound like a muffle, potential disturbances, blah blah blah. So they did
this review and it was published inthe Journal of Sleep Medicine. And there
is no uniform standard for noise exposurefor a consumer products like white noise machines

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anyway, so they're saying, don'tmake it too loud. A toddler might
sleep for ten to twelve hours,but infants may only may sleep for sixteen
hours over the whole day. Theyfound that across twenty four white noise machines
and six phone apps, all couldproduce the noise that violated the guidelines for
an eight hour work shift. Inother words, if you are playing white

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noise for your your little trophies,Oh they're so cute, congratulations, you're
making them deaf while they're still infants. So good job of that one.
Parents. Why don't you just here'san idea. Why do we have to
have a machine again, I'm gonnasound like an old fuddy duddy. We

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have to have a noise replicating machine. Whatever happened to just turning out a
fan. I'm just gonna turn thefan on and the fan makes this nice
all night long. Done. Isn'tthat nice? And call them and relaxing.
Can't we just do that? No, I got a new app,
so it's for my kids. It'san app. I had to go buy

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a new gadget. No, no, just turn on the fan. It's
like twelve ninety nine at Walmart.Done. And you know what else it
does? Makes wind. It's amazing. I'll be back to solve more of
life's problems in from O'Kelly tomorrow.Tawala, I love you, Mark,
I love you, Foosh, Ilove you to death. Can't wait to

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