Medical Debt Relief, Restricting Masks at Protests & Term Limits for D.A.s and Sheriffs

ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Guest Host Chris Merrill filling in with a look at LA County’s new medical debt relief program for residents AND lawmakers mulling over the idea of restricting masks at protests…PLUS – Thoughts on a new study that found California voters want to set term limits for D.A.s and sheriffs - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
This time tomorrow, you'll be ableto listen in on the CNN presidential debate
starting at six o'clock, running righton through until about seven thirty ish.
That's on CNN and then simulcast onkf BON. So we're looking forward to
hearing that. We'll have a debaterecap. All right, listen, I

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I know a lot of people turningbecause they want somebody to argue with the
candidates. That's not me. I'mhappy to tell you what happened, who
said, what, what the bigmoments were. But if you're looking for
somebody who's going to come on andsay Trump was dead wrong or Biden was
dead wrong, it's just not mybag. I'll leave that to Mark.
By the way, Mark, Yes, had the story of La County talking

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about alleviating medical debt for a bunchof residents. Yeah, how about that?
Yeah, I got some problem Ido. And here's let me let
me give you the background on this. Broquin. So the supervisors unanimously voted
to buy up and forgive millions ofdollars in medical debt. Their plan is

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to tackle a two point nine billiondollar burden that weighs on almost eight hundred
thousand residents. Now they're not droppingtwo point nine billion dollars, but they're
going to try to take on achunk of that. Okay, So what
they've done now is they have votedto allow themselves. It's not it's not
good. We don't know for surethat it's going to happen, but we

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do know that they now have giventhemselves the authority, which is how bureaucracy
works. We have to have avote to see if we can vote la
blah black. Anyway that I wantto get into this program with a nonprofit.
It's called undue medical debt. Eastbe called rip medical debt, but
evidently that was more so. ThisNGO takes some of what the patients owe

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and buys the medical debt from thedebt. Is that the debtors what I
can't remember anyway, it buys thedebt for pennies on the dollar. It's
kind of like how collections agencies dothis. So once you've been sent to
collections, the in this case itwould be the medical provider has written that

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all and so collections then tries toget so much, you know, and
that's why oftentimes collections will call andthey'll say, well, you know,
we'll take ten cents of the dollar. We'll take five cents of the dollar.
Because what the collections companies do is, let's say you owe ten thousand
dollars. The collections company will say, we'll buy that debt from you,
doc or hospital or whatever. We'llbuy the ten thousand dollars debt from you

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for five hundred dollars. And theseare oftentimes outstanding debts. They've been around
so long that the doctors just say, we'll take whatever we can get,
and so five hundred dollars is betterthan zero dollars, so they sell it
to the colection ze. Similarly,this undo medical debt is saying we'll give
you. You know, you gotten thousand dollars in debt, we'll give
you five hundred dollars. We'll giveyou three hundred dollars whatever. Right,

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So they're buying this debt pennies onthe dollar. And then what's going to
happen is they're going to take thedeath that they buy and hand the bill
to the county, and the county'sgoing to pay them, right, that's
the idea. That's how this issupposed to work out. And the idea
is that it's going to help anawful lot of people, people that are
in debt. They say that thecounty's five million dollar public health investment will

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help one hundred and fifty thousand residentsand eliminate five hundred million dollars in debt.
Right, so there's five hundred milliondollars in debt. They go,
we'll give you five million, andthe providers go, something's better than nothing,
will take it. Okay, soundsgreat. I have a couple of
issues, and aside from the obviouswise the taxpayers put the bill for your

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medical expenses. I don't want toget into that because that turns into the
political aspect of it, right andI and I understand the argument the government
sponsored healthcare is beneficial to the communityat large, blah blah blah. However,
I would say this universal health careis an all or nothing proposition.

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You can't dip your toe into universalhealth care. That doesn't solve any issue,
especially because you're not really negotiating anything, so there's no set price to
start with. This is all afterthe fat let me give you a let
me let me tell you how thiscould shake down. All right. When
I was in college, I gota credit card. It was it was

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one of those learning moments, allright. My credit card had a max
of six hundred dollars okay, whichin today's dollars, based on inflation,
I think would be in the neighborhoodof eight hundred million dollars. So I
had a six hundred dollars a capon my credit card. I ran that
up to about five feet and thenI didn't have the money to make payment.

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Payment was due on Sday, Tuesday. I got paid on Friday.
I mind up, thinking great,I'll make a payment. Now. I
was only making a couple hundred bucksa week because I was working on weekends,
and I wasn't making a whole number. So I didn't make payment on
Tuesday. So what happens on Wednesday? Boom? They had the late payment
Boom that gets happened. So thelate payment kee goes in and then all

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of a sudden, the interest fromthe previous month bang that hits. So
my five point fifty immediately jumps upwell over six hundred, and they go,
oh, you're over the credit limit. How I get hit again.
All right, So Friday, Imake a payment of like two hundred dollars,
which wipes out my checking account becauseagain I was only working on the
weekends. Again, listen, thisis just a lesson I learned when I

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was eighteen. So this cycle continues, and it continues, and it continues,
and I'm not making the payments,and all of a sudden, they
run this thing up to about eighteenhundred dollars three times my maps because you're
over the limit. And then Iwould make a payment and they would go
oooh, you made a payment,and now you've got a new balance.
It's over the limit. There's anotherlate payment fee or another over the limit

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feed. They're like, oh,so good for you. Yeah, it
was. It was great. Now, listen, we have actually cleaned up
the credit card companies a little bitbecause of this sort of thing. There
are new laws in place now thatweren't in place in the mid nineties because
of this sort of predatory behavior.But the gist of it is this,
there was no incentive for them notto run that up none. So same

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thing when it comes to the medicaldebt. This is my this is my
worry, all right. Suppose thatyou are a I don't necessarily think there's
the doctor's doing, but let's justmark you like this. Why don't I
demonize the big hospital or big medical? Can I just say big medical at
large? Does that exonerate some ofthe individual practitioners? Whether is the insurance

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companies, you might start with them. Well, the insurance companies are not
part of this because the insurance companieshave either they either the people don't have
insurance that the insurance companies aren't payingthis and this is part of their responsibility.
So this is yeah, I'm sorry, please proceed. Yeah. Yeah,
So the LA County supervisors say,we want to buy up some of
the death that's crushing individuals. Sosuppose that you are big medical, all

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right, and you provide a procedurefor your you know, the patient,
and let's say that procedure is tenthousand dollars. You're big medical. You
know that that patient is not goingto pay the bill, especially when it
comes to er right. And partof what's happening here is that we've had
laws passed like the Affortable Care Act, and that was limiting people, or

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you had HIPPA that said you haveto treat people if they come into the
emergency, right, some of theselaws are there. So what's happening is
big medicals figure out ways to manipulatethe system. Since the system change to
take away some of their advantages,so they're trying to figure out what the
new advantage. So suppose you havesomebody come into the ear and that person
comes into the er and their appendixis first, all right, so they

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have to have an emergency app deck. You can't turn them away because it's
a life threatening issue, so youhave to perform emergency surgery. Now,
emergency surgery might cost ten thousand dollars, but you happen to have this feeling
that that person's not going to paytheir ten thousand dollars, either because the
person's in the system is someone thathasn't paid in the past, or you're
a judgmental racist, church, whateverit is. You just think they're not

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gonna do it. So what doyou do. You run that bill up
to one hundred thousand dollars, knowingthat somebody is gonna step in and buy
it for pennies on the dollar.You know that the government's gonna step in
eventually and pay it. So ifthe patient has a bill of ten thousand
or one hundred thousand, and they'renot gonna be able to pay anything anyway,

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why not pad that bill? Whynot? Because if you pad the
bill, what you're doing is you'resaying, I know that this is going
to go to collection and or it'sgoing to go to this debt relief agency.
And if it goes to the debtrelief agency, if we want to
get as much as possible. Soif they were going to give us one
hundred dollars or ten thousand, whydon't we try to get at least a
thousand dollars by simply multiplying everything byten. And I know it sounds shady,

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is all get up, But ittook me all of about ten seconds
to figure out a way to screwthe system. And do you think that
the people who are putting these burdenson individuals and aren't gonna be able to
pay it the first place, hadany qualms about screwing the system in their
mind? They go, listen,we knew we weren't going to get ten
thousand dollars, so of course weran it up to one hundred grand.

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We're still not going to get tenthousand dollars. We're only going to get
a thousand out of it because we'reselling it for pennies on the dollar.
Right, So in their mind they'regoing, you're not even paying the ten
thousand, You're still getting a deal. That's how they justified. So even
if the county is paying pennies onthe dollar, why not jack that dollar
amount up more and collect more pennies. And this is the reason that every

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provider, this is behind the scenes. This is not the patient. The
patient goes into the emergency room andgoes, I'm in a whole I'm in
so much pain by pennies. First, I'm going to die. Right.
They don't care what the bill is. They just say, get this thing
out of me. But every providerhas a contract negotiation with every insurer.
And the reason not only insurer,but uh with medical, with medicare,

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there are contracts with every payer outthere. Every provider has contracts with every
payer. It's why they're part ofnetworks. The networks negotiate these contracts where
you might contract with an individual payeror an individual yeah, it'd be an
individual payer, whether it's an insureror you know, an HMO, whatever
it is. Right, And thereason is so there's no incentive to pump

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the prices. You negotiate those termsbefore somebody walks in with a burst apparents.
Right. So there's my concern ifwe are if we're not going to
do universal healthcare and say look,we're going to make sure that all prices
are fixed and this is how it'sgoing to work, and we're gonna pay
this off with everybody's tax dollars,then dipping your toe in the water is

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encouraging more malfeasons. That's my rain. Okay, I'm trying to follow along
with you. I'm sure that Iknow it's complicated, and I apologize.
No, no, no, no, I'm sure the people who stand to
have this crushing predatory medical debt relievedfrom them appreciate your principled stand. Listen,
I understand that the people who arebound to benefit are going to say,

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what jerk. But how many timesyou drive by somebody with a sign
of the freeway that says anything helps, and you go, man, I
can't give them money because that justencourages them to stand by the freeway.
They should go get help from someplacewhere it provides it. I'm sure that
person thinks, thanks a lot,jerk. So but the truth is,
if we want to fix the system, if we want to help people more

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people in the long run, wegot to fix the system, not help
individuals what at a time. AndI know it sounds shallow, it sounds
free, but I'm trying to I'mtrying to provide a larger solution, not
a temporary things. What if youcould do both of all ears? Okay,
but I don't see Listen, thisis America. I don't see the
insurance companies going, Okay, you'vegot it, we'll shut down. I

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don't see it. And even ifwe do move to some sort of a
universal system, but it's gonna haveto be through the insurance companies. I
mean, the Affordable Care Act wasthe closest we get, and that was
they had to work with the insurancecompanies to try to even get that far.
And the insurance companies, of coursefigured out ways to screw people over
in the mid in the middle ofit all. Wow, I got to
go to break yes, Yeah,all right, listen, there is one

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great way if you are a criminal, there is one great way to make
sure you don't get caught. ChipsI'm getting away with the worst. Next
Chris Merril KFI AM six forty LiveEverywhere and your ieheart ready web you're listening
to Later with Moe Kelly on demandfrom KFI. Chris Merrill in fromo Kelly.
Now that we have solved the medicalbuilding problems in the United States,

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and I'm glad we were able tookThank you very much. I don't Mark
was very happy about it. Mark, by the way, is busy getting
a tongue lashing because we went waylate in that last break. So no
fo shooting there, he fears me. No, no, no. I
talked to him and said he's writingyou up. In fact, I believe
you just got the world's first pushdemerit. No, no, no,
he's a total paper tager. Don'tlisten to a word he says. He'll

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get a time out tomorrow. Ohtime out? Yeah? How about how
about we just ban him from doingany news between seven and seven thirty?
What do you think about that?That? Oh yeah, I'm coming down
with something. I'm starting to feela little little lightheaded. Yeah, that's
good. You can hear the CNNpresidential debate tomorrow from six pm until about

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seven thirty on CNN and then simulcaston KFI and then we'll let mark a
big you on the news as soonas that's over. But seven uh.
There is talk of restricting masks forpeople who are protests were we're from mask
mandates to mask banishment violent protests Sundayat a synagogue, prompting Mayor Karen bask

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to say to Los Angeles should considerrules governing demonstrations and the wearing of masks
by those testing. We've seen similartactics proposed in North Carolina and in New
York. What we're seeing is anawful lot of people have masks that We

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have lots of masks left over.They're usually stuffed in the back of a
drawer somewhere because we think, well, maybe I'll wear these in the future
if somebody in my office gets sickor if I get sick again. So
we all have a bunch of maskslaying around, and what happens is the
protesters went on and I just wearmasks. Now it's not always the masks,
the masks that we were wearing forCOVID. They're saying people are covering

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their faces and what we don't wantare violent protesters covering their faces. We
need to ban masks. This isgonna surprise me. I take issue.
It's not that I support anything theprotesters they're doing. As far as the
turning things, mind, I don'twant that at all. I do want
people to be able to protest.But the idea that masks are the problem

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is akin to you remember when Haraldoused to blame crime on hoodies. There's
a big thing it was about Idon't know, ten fifteen years ago that
a lot of you know, streetcrime was going on and people that were
committing crimes were wearing hoodies. Andyou know why, this winter, and
even if it wasn't winter, itwas cool at night, so they were
wearing these hoodies. And Heraldo saidthat the hoodies were to blame. Hoodies

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were It was gang where hoodies weremasking people from being caught. The hoodies
were the problem. No, thehoodies are not the problem. The crime
is the problem. The violence atprotests are not the problem. The crime
is the problem. And I thinksometimes we get wrapped up on the minutia

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rather than focusing on the bigger picture. And these concerns about masks, what's
the problem one, they're hiding theirfaces. Two, they're worried that,
well, what if we want towhat if we need to have our are
to your guests what they just wouldn'twork on. Nah, I'm not buying
it. And I'll tell you whatif I'm a protester. First of all,

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don't do violent things. Don't dothat, right, That's the first
thing. But suppose that you area protester and other people in your group
turn violent, but you're wearing amask, and let's say that that mask
is a mask that is the flagof the place where you're protest. In
this case, you wouldeel like Palestiniansor people supporting Palestinians pro Palestinians wearing the
Palestinian flag mask. And let's supposeyou get arrested, even though there's no

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evidence you've done anything wrong other thanbeing there at the protest, and somebody
else in the protest did something wrong. Now they're going to try to say,
well, you're part of the gang. My complaint would be wait a
minute, I was just there protesting, exercising my First Amendment right to free
speech and assembly, and then theflag is a symbol of my speech.
I could see this turning ugly andbecoming very expensive from illegal standpoint, as

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somebody is going to have standing andbe the perfect defend or. I guess
it'd be plaintive in a lawsuit againstthe city state whoever puts in these no
masked rules. It's a political distraction. It doesn't have a whole lot of
foundation. Here in wall. Speakingof distractions, many times you will hear

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people say that if only we changedthis one thing about our elected officials,
all of our problems would be solved. I'll tell you what that one thing
is and why there is no onesize fits all. That is next.
You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.

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A pleasure being with you, andthank you for giving me the opportunity to
hang out with you tonight. Rememberthere's the CNN presidential debate coming up tomorrow
night starting at six on CNN andsimulcast on kaf One large majority of California
voters actually support something that I disagreewith, and again I know I'm in

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the minority. I understand why yousupport this, I understand why you think
it's a good idea, But letme make a case for why you should
rethink then Okay. Most California voterssupport term limits for elected offices, including
county supervisors, disparate attorneys, andsheriffs. That according to a new poll
that dropped yesterday. Some experts saythat could signal a desire for new leadership

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in the November elections. Undoubtedly it'sa signal for new leadership in the November
election. I think that goes withoutsaying. The Only Times got the article
talking about how many of the CaliforniaHow many was California voters want term limits
for everybody? DA's sheriffs all thistime? It was a poll that Berkeley
did. It was the Institute ofGovernmental Studies, And what it shows is

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that three quarters of you want termlimits enacted or shortened for many county supervisors.
There are problems with term limits,and I think oftentimes what ends up
happening is people see term limits asa solution for bad leadership. I get
it. I get it. Yousee somebody in office and you go,

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that person is terrible. We've gotto get them out. You see somebody
in office and then they get reelected and you go, how does this
keep happening? How do we havethis problem? I've never been a big
fan of term limits, and especiallyfor elected officials as long as there's elections.
Now, lifelong appointments a little bitdifferent story. I want. I

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always like the idea of retaining judgesor justices or whatever else it is,
but I really have deep, deepconcerns when it comes to term limits,
because what happens is we end upwith a long history of court leadership,
right, and then once you haveenough bad leaders in a row, people

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start saying, how do we getrid of bad leaders? How do I
get people? I'm so, theDA's office has been a mess for too
long? How do I get thatDA out there? The sheriff has been
a mess for two How do Iget that sheriff out of there? Get
it? And the options through theelection process are so poor that we're left

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saying, what if we just putin term limits so that we can keep
the damage to a minimum. Okay, if that way, if we have
somebody who's bad at their job butthey keep getting re elected, at least
we can stop them from getting reelected too many times. But what does
that get you? It gets youonto the next poor leader faster. So

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let me give you an example ona larger scale. Suppose that you are
a Republican living in California. Right, for many of you, you've fit
the bill. If you're in OrangeCounty, chances are you prevadent. So
what'd you think of Jerry Brown?Oh, Jerry Brown was the worst governor
until Newsome. There's always a recencybias too. Have you noticed that Trump

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was the worst president ever since GeorgeW. Bush? And George W.
Bush was terrible. Since they wouldskip over his dad, they go right
to Rake and the progressive was justhated Rake. For conservatives, they say,
who is the worst president? Oh, my gosh, Joe Biden is
the worst president ever. Remember whenObaba was in office. Obaba was the

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worst president ever. Clayton was theworst president ever. Okay, does that
mean that it's getting progressively worse?Maybe your view point is, yeah,
it's getting progressively worse. You don'tlike the person who's being nominated and then
elected from the other side. Iget so Jerry Brown, Oh, it
was a terrible governor, was terriblegovernor. Okay, term limits so then

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what then you have an election andthen you get Newsome. If you are
a Republican in California, the termlimits didn't do anything for you. It
just moved down to the next personyou didn't like. So when we say
all we gotta get term limits thatwe can get the bad leaders out of
there faster, what does it dosprings up the next leader you're not gonna

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like. And our system at Californiais better because of the jungle primary when
it comes to the state wide racisand things like that, So that that's
better. But this idea of termlimits and shortening term limits for even some
of these local offices, what doesit really get you? What it gets
you is fwer options. Let mecontend that maybe you don't like Newsom,

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maybe you signed the petition to recallNewsome. Not only did Newsom win an
election, he then beat the recalland then won another election. So the
people at large in our democracy wantednews You didn't want Newsome, but the
people wanted Newsome. In the sameway, you have leaders that you might

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not like that keep getting re elected, and what does that do for you.
I don't like them, they keepgetting reelected, Okay, but that's
how our system works. More peoplelike them than didn't like them, or
more people liked this person staying inoffice than the candidate that made it up
through the primary system to challenge them, you woant have a better challenger fix

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the people who are coming out ofthe primaries. But because we have our
two party system and everything else,the people coming out of the primaries tend
to be farther to the right orfarther than the left and the old days,
the old Nixonian strategy wise, ifsomebody is you go, you attacked
far right or far left in theprimaries, and then if you win your
primary, then you come back tosenator to try to win people over in
the middle. What they're doing now, and you're seeing this playout national politics.

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What they're doing now is they're realizingthat you can't really change the minds
of independent voters. Even undecided voterstend to already have a leaning one way
or the other. So what happenedto They say, you know what,
instead of tacking closer to center,I'm going to go all the way to
bat Spit crazy right or batspit crazyleft. This is how we end up

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with the squad and you end upwith the Marjorie Taylor Green right. Because
what they're doing is they're trying toenergize the base. Well political scientists have
come to realize in the last fewdecades is that it's more important to get
your base to go to the pollsthan it is to try to get a
hesitant voter to vote for you.If you can get more people who are

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already committed to you to the polls, that is far more advantageous than trying
to get people who are hesitant topull the lever for you. So,
if you want to get bad leadersout, you've got to present good leaders.
But our system doesn't really really allowfor that. And this argument about

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not wanting lifelong politicians, it kindof falls apart when you start talking about
things like the sheriff, because thesheriff is not a lifelong politician. Sheriffs
by nature, by lifelong cops whorose to the position of politician. It's
almost like punishment for being good atyour job. Ironically, being a good
cop does not mean that you area good politician. And then we're left

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saying that the politician isn't good atpolitics. We go, oh, my
goodness, this politician isn't good atpolitics. Yeah, because they're not.
Because they're cops. They're not politicians. They're not political science people. They're
smart people, they have ambition,but they're cops steep down and so you're
asking a cop to be a politician. We wouldn't ask the politician to go

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be a cop. We're asking acop to be a politician. So when
you say, well, we don'twant lifelong politicians, you're not hiring lifelong
politicians in many of these jobs.When it comes to sheriff, you're not.
You're hiring lifelong cop. But theymight not be a great politician.
You know that works. So theturn limit thing, all it does is
remove your options from the ballot.Let's suppose it's somebody you like. Okay,

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well they just maxed out. Nowyou don't get to vote for the
many but they were great, Okay, well you voted internal limits. Now
you don't get to vote for thatperson. It's one fewer option on the
ballot that you might even like.PU Chris marril I AM six forty were
live everywhere in your iHeartRadio app.You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on

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demand from KFI AM six forty.Chris Merrill came from O Kelly tonight.
Also, by the way, Twalahas been amazing, says me, the
links to the podcast, which iswonderfully appreciating that. And I do a
show on Sundays as well, andmy producer from Sunday Set make sure that
I remind people that you can findthe Sunday show in the featured segments.

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So take that. It's wala,I'm featured. What do you think about
that feature artist right here? He'sdone with silence. Yeah, I get
it. You can hear the CNNPresidential Debate on Thursday. That is tomorrow.
I believe today is Wednesday, rightyesterday, I was thinking it was

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Wednesday. This is my second Wednesdayof the week, so that's great.
The CNN Presidential Debate is tomorrow,starting at six on CNN simulcast on KFI,
and then we will pop in immediatelyafter it is complete. We'll give
you an update on local news,and then we'll do a recap of what
might down and we'll play back someof the clips in case you can get

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a chance to hear the whole thing. And I'm gonna guess probably some of
the highlights and or low lights that'llbe part of the program. There is
a new bill that's been introduced tothe State Senate. The idea is to
ban drones. And I know atfirst you go get banning drones, Yeah,
but it's the drones that would beused by most of the county Sheriff's

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department and other police agents. Theywant to ban the drone outlawing it's the
bill would outlaw any blacklisted military equipment. Drones would be included. And a
statement announcing the bill State Senator TomUmberg Democrats Santa Anna, highlighting racent concerns

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around dj I. That is Chinesegrone manufacturer is probably the biggest one in
the world too. Those domestic drums, you know, the what do they
call those? The rotary god,what are they called. I want to
make sure I get this right,uh push, you know what I'm talking
about is the rotary blade drones orwhatever. Anyways, the ones the helicopter,
the smaller ones are yeah, thesmaller one and they like the four

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roads that are on Oh yeah,yeah, I don't know. I've never
actually known their names, but I'veseen a thousand of them. Yeah.
Yeah, they're the rotor drones anyway, as opposed to like the military ones
that are jet makes a ton ofthese things and anyway, they've been blacklisted
now by the Defense Department out ofconcerns that Dji's hardware is spying for the

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Chinese military. Department of Defense positionis that systems produced by Dji posed potential
threats to national security. According toofficials and the DoD, mitigating the threats
posed by small unmanned aircraft systems,including DJI systems, remains a priority across
the department. So what we're doingis we're giving Oh I know, listen,

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listen, you guys that are allabout law and order. Thought,
we got to stop TikTok. Oh, the Chi coms are watching our dance
videos. We've got to stop TikTok. They are threat to America. Oh
okay, well, why don't westop all these firms that are owned by
Chinese companies, like your favorite drone. I I but I have a drone

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business. I take pictures of housesor Hey, the cop use those.
But the cops need every tool theycan get. Oh no, not this
tool. You see, the ChineseCommunist Party might be taking a look at
whatever that drone footage is. Theycould be snapping pictures of your pool and
sending it back to Beijing. Sothat Beijing knows exactly how many lawn chairs

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you have around your pool. Soyou got that. There's a bill in
the House of Representatives that would endthe use of Dji drones domestically, kind
of like they want to do withTakak and also Kasperski, which is the
anti virus software owned by Russians.We have now told Kasperski, okay,

(30:37):
you can't, you can't operate.So if you have Kasperski, which I
have on a couple of computers,you're going to find a new antivirus hup.
Dji. By the way, justlike Tatak has denied that any of
its drones transmit data to the Chinesecommunist parties, saying that the latest efforts
to ban their use in the UnitedStates just an effort to suppress foreign investment
and benefit domestic drone companies. SoVoice of oc I did some research on

(31:02):
those, Thank you guys, Iappreciate nice job. Good work. Find
out that almost every police department inthe county owns at least one of these
Dji drones, with the kind ofsheriffs preparing to purchase more of these over
the next year. It's because Djithey're kind of the standard right now,
they make the good ones, andso now we're caught between do we support

(31:26):
local law and order or do wewant to buy into the national security risk
that's going into it? And whyin the world wo any of the sheriff's
departments want to have any of thesethings if there's even the smallest chance that
you could be transmitting back to theChinese Communist Party. Sometimes when you make
a commotion, you start making thesebold statements and start saying everything is bad.

(31:49):
Then all of a sudden, youstart banning your own stuff, and
then it becomes a problem. Man. Have you ever flown one? Chris?
Okay, so my wife got thisgreat question. My wife got me
a drone a few years ago.It is not a dji, It is
a knock on and it is reallyListen, you gotta be skilled. This

(32:12):
is what I got is supposed tobe great for beginners and straight. Oh
yeah, yeah, are you push? You fly these things? So I've
never flown one, but I workedwith a director who had to use one
for it, and I saw himmaneuver the the the promote and I'm like,
dude, how the hell do youkeep that thing straight? Because it's

(32:34):
like it was so smooth. Butyou should see. It's like when you
play Xbox or PlayStation. It's likehe was just maneuvering it so smooth with
his fingers and it just flew likeyou would think he would just push one
button. You know. It's it'scrazy. Now, was he watching a
video on a screen in front ofhim so he's getting the view from the
drone or was he watching the dronein the snow? He was because we

(32:55):
were like in open air, sohe just looked at the drone. But
okay, I get confused. Yeah, oh that's true though. But either
way, I'm like, how theheck? I don't know, Yeah,
like make it. Oh my gosh, it's so hard. And what I
found was that I would get thedrone up in the air, and even
the slightest breeze, the drone wouldturn a little bit, and then I

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pressed forward. But the drone hasturned so forward is no longer forward.
Forward, will go this way orthat way, and I didn't know which
way I was. I didn't knowwhich way was straight anymore, and I
couldn't keep up with it. Sothen I would try to look at the
camera because the camera's always going toput it forward, and then my field
of view wasn't big enough, andI certainly wasn't used to her anyway,
I got it stuck on the topof a tree and it was about eighty

(33:40):
feet in the air, and Igot stuck up there, and I thought
I'm screwed, and I kept tryingto like gass it like I don't know
if you've ever stuck a car inthe mud and you kind of try to
rock it forward and back. Iwas sort of trying to do that.
So I'm in this field and youjust start hearing boom zoomzo. All of
a sudden, one of the rotorsbroke off because they hit a branch and

(34:07):
the rot comes down. The droneis still stuck in the tree. Uh,
and then I had to wait forit. Fortunately, after a day
and a little bit stronger breeze,it blew itself out of the tree and
I picked it up off the ground. I put it back in the case
and I had not us So that'smy that's the extended by drone operation.
So for you drone operators, I'mso impressed by your skill because it is

(34:28):
legitimately impressive. It totally is well. You kind of buried the lead though,
Chris, what did you need adrone for? Have you taken up
Peep and Tommery? Yes, spyingon the neighbors. Okay, yeah,
yeah, thanks for clarification. Thankyou. This field, by the way,
this is at my parents' house,nor the mission. This field,
the local police were doing flyovers andthey actually their neighbor who was right on

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the other side of this tree.He got buffed a few years back before
they legalized weed. He had agiant grow back there. So listen,
I gotta get that drone up tosee who else has got the good stuff
before they get busted. You gottalook out for those things. Well,
that makes sense right right Listen,This is how I let's say you get
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