June 28, 2024 • 45 mins
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty doing
a bit of a recap to theCNN presidential debate to simulcast on KFI topics
like the economy, Terrence, nationaldebt, Roe v. Wade came up,
and the moderators also pitched immigration,what the different candidates might do about
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that foreign policy and also been gettingsome feedback watching some of the different sources
online from what people are thinking invarious parts of the country, Biden supporters,
Trump supporters and undecided what they thinkof this debate. They continue to
talk about the Middle East January sixth, and then about going after political opponents
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as well, and democracy came upand will the takeaway that I'm seeing from
an awful lot if I may,before we dive into some of the specifics,
and guys, feel free to jumpin on this. I gotta tell
you, not a strong performance byBiden. He came out of the gate
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and he stumbled, it's tough towin a race when you come out of
the gate your stuff. I don'tknow why listen. I know what you're
gonna say, is you're gonna say, Well, he stumbled out of the
gate because he's old. He stumbledout of the gate because he's senile.
Maybe it could be that he hastrouble organizing his thoughts. It could be
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that all that debate prep that he'sdone at Camp David for the last week
was too much. He seemed unfocused. Trump came out looking charismatic and was
able to call Biden out a fewtimes. In fact, Fushi have that
cut number two. At one point, Biden was was having difficulty finishing his
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thought and Trump sort of jumped onit. I know, I know what
you're gonna say. You're gonna say, wait a minute, merrill. It's
a debate. It shouldn't be allabout just the clips for the internet.
But face it, it is whatI've done since I've changed the law.
What's happened. I've changed in theway that now you're in a situation where
the forty percent fewer people coming acrossthe border regally is better than when he
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left office, and I'm going tocontinue to move into we got the total
ban on the total initiative, relativeto what we're going to do with more
border control and more'n sign office,wasn't that I really don't know what he
said at the end of this,and I don't think he knows what he
said either. It was tough.It was tough. It was very difficult.
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It was difficult. So the substanceof the debate actually, in my
opinion, and again, guys feelfree to jump right in on this too,
the substance of the debate was actuallybetter than I thought it was going
to be. They did talk aboutsome things, and they did exactly what
I expected. Trump, to hiscredit, did a great job of pivoting
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everything back to the issue was wherehe was the strongest, tax cuts and
the board. Biden did a littlebit of liar liar pants on fire for
Trump, but Trump's messaging was awhole lot clearer. What'd you say,
Mark, it's a firehouse. Iwas following your lead and hanging back.
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Yeah, listen, there's a it. I know there's going to be some
complaints about CNN not fact check.Yeah, that's a disaster. I will
say something about that. CNN doingthis debate with no fact checking, it
makes it no better than the socialmedia platform that is not journalism. They
sorely needed fact checking and I listenedfrom start to finish. There was it
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would have been a big job forsomebody to be a fact checker doing this,
but that was a disaster. Iwas following some of the fact checking
online and they were like, thisneeds context, this is false. This
kind of thing is going on.I think I think New York Times have
like sixty fact checkers watching this isthe next one, so they were understaffed.
Yeah right, yeah, right,Okay, here's let me play Devil's
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advocate. That what you're saying.I hear what you're saying about journalism and
we need fact check if they spendif the journalists are spending their time fact
check and they miss one, thenthe candidate will say I was unfairly treated.
They fact check him, but theydidn't fact check. At what point
do we hold the candidates responsible forknowing what the truth is and calling the
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other person out on it. Imean, isn't that kind of what debate
is about. Like we're going todebate the issue, and if you present
false facts, the onus is kindof on the person to say that's not
true. Well, well, yougot a couple of adversary series going against
each other, and I have tosay every piece of information, study poll,
I see about your average person showsthat they don't know that much about
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current events and news, and thatis the purpose of journalism. If you
don't have journalists there to explain thingsto people, why are you wasting everybody's
time? All right, so letme say this, then, what about
what we're doing right now? Imean we're doing the analysis. CNN's doing
analysis of it. ABC is doinganalysis of it. Everybody's doing analysis of
it. And this is the timeis that the journalists would say, wait
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a minute, that's not true.Wait a minute, that's not true.
But in the throes of the debate, dude, are we putting too much
onus on the moderators? Should theybe simply hosts. I kind of liked
the microphone being cut off, althoughI did read something that said that it
was actually good for Trump because itstopped him from from doing his antics that
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he had done in the past,that actually kept him focused by not having
that microphone on. Well, thatmay be true. One of the last
numbers I saw before I left forwork today was in the twenty twenty debate,
Trump interrupted Biden one hundred and sixtytwo times, and so they had
to install those those things to cutthe mics this time, never been done
in a presidential debate before. Thisis the first time. I kind of
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liked it. As just an outsideviewer, I kind of liked it.
I'm not somebody who's been in anybody'scamp. I have some grave issues with
some of the things that candidates havesaid and done in the past, but
I haven't been I guess you wouldcall me a non committed voter. Mostly,
I'm just hoping that one of bothof them gets replaced. And I
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know it sounds like I'm being facetious. I'm not kind of hoping one both
of them gets replaced. And tothat point, New York Times one of
the reporters says, the feedback I'mgetting from Democrats early in this debate,
and this is in the first hour, is that it's not kind to bide
people. Biden supporters who have notwatched either candidate closely this year are shocked
at how much more articulate Trump appearsin this debate. I gotta agree.
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I have to agree with that.I think that in many cases Trump was
doing he was speaking trump Andese wherehe would sort of nobody's ever seen.
It was incredible, it was huge, huge, It was nobody's it's it's
just and this guy. I getthat, but it felt like with Trump,
when he was cutting himself short,he was moving towards something. When
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Biden was stumbling, it just feltlike like he was just playing stumbling like
it was. It wasn't like hewas trying to get to something. It
was like he was just trying notto fall apart. Let's see, Oh,
here's one where Biden did land.I thought this was a really good
thing for Biden. When they wentto talking about the military, Biden became
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very i'm going to say, emotionallycharged. He obviously feels very deeply about
this Bush. Can you go tocutt number four there? And this had
everything to do with the whole suckerand loser thing which Trump said, I
have nineteen witnesses that say it neverhappened, and I guess I would argue,
well, then they weren't witnesses.Can you go ahead and play that
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Buckers, My son was not aloser. He's not a sucker. You're
the sucker. You're the loser.Presidential Yeah, you're the sucker. You're
the loser. I thought it wasvery strong, thought, it was very
pointed. It also didn't help.And look, I know sometimes when people
watch it on TV versus when peoplewatch it or listen to it on the
radio, there can be a difference. The opinion that the most famous case,
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of course, is the very firsttelevised debate, the Nixon Kennedy debate.
People who watched it Kennedy one.People who listened to it Nixon one.
But Biden doesn't sound great. Hedoes not. Trump's voice hasn't changed.
Biden sounds withered, if I'm beinghonest, he sounds Oh. The
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Biden we saw tonight was not theBiden we saw at the State of the
Union. Of press and I knowa lot I know on the right of
been saying well, that's because hewas he was popped up on drugs and
they had him on stimulants or whatever. I don't know. I don't know
if it was or not, butI can tell you the Biden tonight was
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not the Biden from State of theUnion. He didn't look he didn't look
grand at all, and frankly,it was kind of disheartening to see that.
All right. More debate coverage continueshere The CNN presidential Debate with simulcast
and KFI you heard it here.We're going to continue talking about it a
little bit more next. You're listeningtoo later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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KFI AM six forty. If I'mbeing straight with you, they went a
long time in that first second,right didn't they go? I mean it
was almost fifty straight minutes that theydid that first second. And I thought
that the questions and the content werereally strong. Economy, tariffs, national
debt, Roe v. Wade.I mean, they were hitting the they
were hitting all the big ones.They finally got to immigration, even though
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Trump was pivoting to immigration and continueto repeat a number of his stump speeches
about President Biden letting eighteen to twentymillion people across the border. Yesterday on
the program, we fact checked thatthat's just not accurate. He continued to
say that Joe Biden was putting andI don't know where this came from.
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This seems this seems like a stretchA Trump isn't. If you will,
he said that illegal immigrants were beingbeing put up in luxury hotels while veterans
were being kicked out of the VA. Those two things, of course,
are not related. But we're supposedto compare one to the other, to
say how off one's right. Listen, nobody wants to put veterans on the
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street. Nobody take a servant.See how many people said, let's put
veterans on the street. Nobody wantsthem. See how many people say,
let's put people who are in thecountry illegally up in luxury hotels. Trump
is sort of painting the picture asthough illegal immigrants are getting a stay at
Marhago while veterans are being shipped off. He does a great job of passing
that along. He really does.He does a great job of painting that
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picture. Biden kind of kind ofcame back with NEMO. In fact,
let me see, I've got yeah, here it is. They brought Roe
v. Wade. Here's what Iwrote my notes Roe v. Wade.
Trump takes credit for overturning Row willnot block abortion pills, claims everybody,
without exception, wanted the abortion questionto go back to the States. Every
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legal scholar wants abortion to be astate's issue. Believes in exceptions for rape,
incest, in life of mother.Anyone who disagrees is a radical who
wants to provide post term abortion.In other words, give birth to the
baby, set the baby aside,and then decided that the baby should deliver
dot Those were his Biden says,the vast majority of smart people support Roe.
Trump said. Trump then didn't wantto talk about abortion. He said
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illegal killers are raping and killing women. In my notes, Biden, I
said, Now, sure Biden knowswhere he is right now. At that
point, he just looked dates,came back to the topic and said he
supports Roe, and doctors and mothersshould be making the decisions, not politicians
and states. Trump says, Joewants abortion in the ninth month or after.
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Biden shoots back with uh not forlate term abortion period period. Trump
says, yes, you do,liar, liar, pants on fire.
You like late term abortions. Bidensays he hates women. Those were my
notes. That was my That wasme paraphrasing what I was hearing. Listen,
maybe you don't agree with it,but I'm telling you, as a
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voter, just like you are,my vot's worth as much as yours,
yours as much as mine. WhatI heard was Trump pivot away from abortion
where he knows it's not a winningargument for the GOP. Right Now,
back to illegal immigration, which heknows is a winning argument for the GOP.
And then it turned in an uhya hun uh yea hunh huh.
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And then at some point during allof that sort of nonsense going on,
upset we need to act like grownups. I thought that was really interesting,
especially considering that offucialists go to cuttwelve. There we're acting like grownups.
But the debate near the end reallygot off the rails when they started doing
over whose golf handicap was better andonly two hundred and twenty thirty pounds or
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twenty thirty five pounds. Well yousaid sixty four two hundred. Well anyway,
that's you. Anyway, just takea look at what he says he
is, and take a look atwhat he is. Look I'd be happy
to have a driving contest with him, Harim. I got my handicap,
which when I was vice president downto six. And but by the way
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I told you before, I'm happyto play golf. If you carry your
own bag, I think you cando it. That's the biggest lie.
When he is a six handicap,of all, I was an eight handicap
now eight. But I have youknow, I've seen this wing I know
this wing. Let's not act likeLet's not act like children. Let's not
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act like children. We're gonna goahead and fight over whose handicap is better,
but let's not act like children.That. I don't know who took
debate on that. To be honest, I really don't. Have you ever
been in an argument. I don'tcare if it's with somebody, if it's
with a spouse, if it's withsomebody at the bar. I don't know.
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This happens to my wife and Iall the time. Somebody will say
something I say all the time.Let's say when we argue, and I'm
sure that if you're in a relationship, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Where you're arguing about something and oneperson will then derail the art and
it goes from being about this onething to oh, yeah, well you
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did this, and then the otherperson's put on the teeth fence to say,
well you didn't put the toilet seatdown, Well you don't have to
the dishwasher, Well you didn't putanother bag in the trash, Well you
never start the recycling, And allof a sudden, you go, what
the hell were we arguing about?To start with? The same thing here.
They started arguing about who had thebetter handicap. What how does that?
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You know who I think the biggestwinner was tonight. No, this
is gonna sound like I'm trying toformulate a punchline. I'm not. Do
you know what I think was thebiggest winner tonight? In this debate,
Jack Daniels close because many people werecoping. Yes, he rf I think
RFK was the biggest winner. Really, I said before, Joe Biden has
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lost his fastball. Listen, Ithink the slider's gone down. It's not
there. And Trump like, Idon't think you could ever get a fastball
over the plate. He might beable to throw it as hard as he
ever has, but it's he's neverthrown a strike right now, RFK is
going. That's That's what I'm witnessinga little bit more on what people are
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saying, the feedback from people whowere being pulled in real time this sort
of thing, because is there achance the two guys you saw on the
stage tonight are not the same twopeople you see in the next debate.
If you are an insider, youmight say the answer is yes, who
thinks what next? You're listening toolater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
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Ams. I'm having debates with afriend online right now, and this friend
of mine does not care for Trump, does not like Trump. You never
liked them, and I gotta tellyou, I'm not a big thing.
I felt like the four years inoffice were frantic and chaotic and and I
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didn't like his leadership at all atall. That's it when it comes to
cognitive decline. Over the last fouryears. What I saw tonight, Biden
has fallen right off the cliff.I feel like Trump is the same Trump
that we've been seeing. And Iwas trying to tell my friend this and
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he says, no, no,no, he's deteriorating too. He's bad
too. Listen. I get it. I know you're not happy with Trump.
I know you don't like him.I know you want him to be
really bad. I know that.I know that everything in you is going
to pick apart everything Trump says.I get that. But as as an
observer on the outside watching what wasgoing on, Yeah, Trump told a
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bunch of of Phipps, I getit. Trump dodge questions about Charlottesville and
was talking about the people on Jsix that they were patriots and and how
Biden was using lawfare to try togo after his political opponents. In fact,
hang on it, guys, theway about, We've got a cut
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of that, right, yeah,number seven there guys. Trump uh,
Trump and Biden started fighting over apolitical retribution of foes. You play that,
boosh Well. I said, myretribution is going to be success.
We're going to make this country successfulagain, because right now it's a failing
nation. My retribution is going tobe success. But when he talks about
a convicted fella and his son isa convicted heelen at a very high level.
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His son is convicted, going tobe convicted, probably numerous other times
should have been convicted before, buthis justice apartment let the statute of limitations
laps and the most important things.But he could be a convicted fella as
soon as he gets out of office. Joe could be a con a fellow
with all of the things that he'sdone. He's done horrible things, all
of the death cause, at theborder, telling the Ukrainian people that we're
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going to want a billion dollars oryou change the prosecutor otherwise you're not getting
a billion dollars. If I eversaid that that's quid pro quo, that
we're not going to do anything.We're not going to give you a billion
dollars unless you change your prosecutor havingto do with the son. This man
is a criminal. This man,you're lucky. You're lucky. I did
nothing wrong. We'd have a systemthat was rigged and disgusting. I did
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nothing wrong, Thank you, allright? So I did nothing wrong.
I did nothing wrong. I'm atotally innocent person. But his son is
a terrible person, and the onlyreason he doesn't have more felonies is because
of his justice department, But thenasserts that the same justice department would somehow
charge him with a bunch of felonieswar and then he went back to the
border because he knows that's an issuethat you're strong. I don't care for.
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I don't care for the talk aboutlaw fair doesn't do anything. It
just doesn't like. I don't buyit. Dude, you're guilty. You're
charging a bunch of other stuff.We saw the boxes in mar A Lago
stacked up next to the toilet.You're gonna tell me I didn't see that.
I saw it right. I sawthat. I saw what happened on
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January sixth. I saw it.I witnessed it in real time. It
was there. You're gonna tell methat didn't happen. Of course it did.
But I don't feel like Biden evergot that. In basketball, you
call it the dagger, right,they hit a three pointer with a little
time left and they already have thelead, and the announcer will say dagger.
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Biden never had that dagger never.New York Times has talked with people
and Kristin Morris is sixty years old. She's a nursing student, so she's
gone back to school in her sixtiesfor a new career. Lives in a
suburb outside of Charlotte, North Carolina. Is unenthusiastic about voting for Biden or
Trump, and said that the hyperboleon both sides is really really hard to
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stomach. Halfway through the debate,she said she was troubled by Trump's lack
of remorse about his role in thej six riots, but she was also
very concerned by Biden's inability to coherentlyfinish thoughts. It's just so unsettling,
she said, of both candidates,I kind of with you. I get
the same takeaway from that, Uhgo to cut five there foosh. Biden
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did have trouble finishing thoughts like thistime, being sure that we continue to
suppeen stays in our healthcare system,making sure that we're able to make every
single solitary person eligible for what I'vebeen able to do with the the COVID
astige, with dealing with everything wehave to do with. Yeah, yes
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we finally beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden. President account genuinely pain,
genuinely pain. I felt bad forthe name. The thoughts weren't coming,
the words weren't for me. Itjust wasn't there. And I got
a tell, as we go tothe ballot box, right, we go
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to the pools, we are lookingfor a leader. Right, That's the
truth. We're looking for a leader. Granted, we are wired for watching
thrills of debates. This debate wasnot very spring or esque. I kind
of expected it to be. Itwas a bit of a buck down let
reringer. But we want those thrills. We've got a fight or flight instinct
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for ourselves. It's not fight flightor sleep. And this was a little
bit of a sleep, which iswhy I think some people were getting kind
of bored, except for we startedto feel really bad for Joe Biden.
The worst we felt for Joe Biden. As he started to show some of
these moments, the less likely itwas that he was going to win.
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We gravitate toward charisma, and inmany ways, charisma equals leadership. Now
you're going to disagree with me outof principle, and I agree. But
think about how we view these debates. We always want to see We say,
who won the debate was a personthat had the charisma, whereas the
kids would say, riz, wewant to follow somebody. The smartest guy
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in the room may not be theone that best rallies. The troops and
politicians know this. They know it. We want somebody that commands respect,
somebody that we will follow just tosee where they go. Eisenhower or Patten.
Eisenhower was a smart guy. Hewas a great leader on the battlefield.
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Though when they needed somebody who wasgoing to be in charge of the
push, it was Patten. Pattenwas the general that people would volunteer to
die for. Patten would say,how many us O bees want to follow
me? You may come back andthey all raise their hands. Hatton was
the guy who would lead you intohell and back. Doesn't mean that Patten
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was dumb or the Eisenhower was boring. It just meant that one man knew
better how to inspire. And rightnow, we want to be inspired,
want to feel like we have somecontrol, and that means electing a guy
that makes us feel strong. Andthat's why the candidates ironically the oldest and
the most physically feeble after FDR forobvious reasons. They don't get too far
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in to the policy weeds. Theyjust say border is broken, abortion is
abortion is it should be legalized nationwide. They don't really dive into the weeds
of it. They want to giveyou a feeling of inspiration. And Biden
fell short of that. He feltwell shortened, and so Biden fans are
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not raising. In fact, NewYork Times one of their embedded reporters is
a group of House Democratic lawmakers saidthey were watching the debate together and acknowledged
it was a disaster. They werediscussing the need for a new presidential nominee.
Will that happen? Don't know,but ask yourself this, if that
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debate will between Donald Trump and GavinNewsom, who would have worn You're listening
to Later with Moe Kelly on demandfrom KFI A M six forty Mark.
I got some feedback from some friendsaverage voters. You're in love this as
well as I have one friend whois a Democratic kind of a strategist consultant,
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I guess, and another friend who'sa Hispanic producer in radio. I
thought you were going to say youhad ordered a pizza for us here at
the station. That's what I washoping for. So this is my buddy
el all right. He's a goodfriend of mine. He's Hispanic, grew
up in Los Angeles, has family, and spends a lot of time TJ.
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Here's what he says. This isso brilliant per the debate tonight,
Olah, I just got out ofprison and made my way into the US
by walking across the border with thousandsof my fellow prison maids. Now that
I'm here in Cape Cod, Iwas able to get a luxury hotel room,
social Security card, free education,free healthcare, and I'm registered to
vote. Luckily, I was ableto get a great paying job that would
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go back and that would go toblacks and Hispanics. Plus I'm looking to
kill people. Can you tell mewhere I can vote for Biden. Me
and my friends are available to voteseveral times. Thanks love your show.
Oh, also setting things up formy cousin and his friends in the asylums,
so I'll make sure they listen.So sounds like our ratings are going
up. Ark, we got thatgoing for us. Well, the world
loves good satire. Are they throwingin a tesla with with for the guy?
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I did get that, you know, And I made that point that
at one point Trump was trying tosay that anybody who was here illegally was
going into luxury hotels after they getdone killing and raping people. But veterans
were being booted out of the streetand VA's were being closed down, And
I mean, he really painted adystopian future that was being overrun by by
the twenty million people coming across thesouthern border. Can we get a fact
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check on that, because the laststats I've seen, and we've reported this
this week, is that border apprehensionsare down like forty percent. Yeah,
and then I heard somebody one ofthe uh oh, one of the sheriffs
along the southern border, was saying, I know they're not They're playing numbers
games. Okay, it's still nottwenty million people crossing the border since Biden
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took over. I mean we lookedup. We looked it up yesterday,
and I used the most reliable sourceI could thing. And again you're the
one. I hope things paying yousomething for this. They should be,
shouldn't they please? So I mean, we binged it and the worst,
the worst number we could find totalnumber of people living undocumented in the United
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States, sixteen and a half million, that was the word. That was
the highest number we could find.So this notion that there's twenty million coming
across the border in the last threeand a half years, just in saying,
is it okay, standard number somewherearound eleven million, eleven or twelve,
yeah, game somewhere there. Yeah, And that's been pretty consistent.
Drop a little bit here, dropa little bit there. The other thing,
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too, is that I noticed,and I knew this was going to
happen. The politicians and Trump diedthis especially. It loves to play both
sides of COVID. We developed thevaccine, We saved lives. It was
all because of our vaccine, andthis guy did the worst things, the
most horrible things. Many people diedand the mandates were horrible, and I
thought the mandates for the vaccine youdeveloped, right, like it playing both
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sides of that. And then itwas we had stopped all the fechnel coming
across the border, and in thelast couple of months I was in office,
we had the lowest border crossings ever, and I thought, yeah,
it was COVID time. I mean, we shut the border down for COVID,
so I didn't really have anything todo with policy other than we were
able to shut it down because itwas considered a health emergency. So it's
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like, we're playing both sides ofCOVID, right. Yeah, I'd like
to play both sides of a divebar right now. I was just exhausting
because I was taking notes throughout thewhole thing, and I actually gave up
taking notes because it was just like, there's too much. We need fact
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checkers working on this stuff, becausethis is a public service. You don't
just platform this stuff to go outinto the world with no quality control.
People need to be alerted to whatthey're hearing is true and which part is
false. I think there's gonna beplenty of stories about that in the next
coming days, but here. Thisis from a friend of mine who is
kind of a democratic strategist. Allright, you sent me this tex main
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hopes now are that One, thiswhole thing was such an abject spit show
that no one really wins in termsof gaining brown with the eight actual undecided
voters left out there. And two, this is late June. A convention,
speeches, convictions, and any numberof other events remain that will shuffle
the cards anew. Bad debate performancehave traditionally been fatal, but it ain't
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mid October this time around. Sothis is from he's a political walk he's
a strategist, and I mean hesends the text with the assumption that it
was a really bad show for Biden. I mean he didn't even have to
say it doesn't look good. Hejust said this is this is horrible.
So that's democratic strategies. A friendof mine who is kind of a let's
call him an independent motor says,old men content, Old men comment coming,
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sound like Buden, old man commentforthcoming. Damn, I missed the
America before all the hate and vitrioldebates were more civilized and things to social
media, the debate is even greaterthan ever, I said, I love
your old man commentary. He said, I heard tell. I love it
when people say that the phrase heardtell. I heard tell that Biden may
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be replaced by Michelle Obama. Oh, come on, that's no way.
No, okay, no, no, it's not gonna I don't know that.
I don't. I don't think thatDemocrats can replace Biden. Well,
first of all, convention rules Idon't think would allow them to replace Biden
unless there was a reason for himto not be in the race, like
he intentionally drops out. He wouldhave to say I'm out or you know,
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medical incapacitation of some sort. SoI don't think you can. I
don't think that the party can justjump in and replace him per their own
rules, So I don't They're notabout to. I mean that time.
I think that it would be adisaster. It would make you look like
the most splinter party that has noidea what you're doing at all. Absolutely
better to have a Canada that youdon't really like than to look like you
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don't know what you're doing. Holdthem and then get behind. I just
thought it was fascinating to get someof that feedback from people that I have.
I call them friends for a reason, you know, And I got
friends on both sides. I havefriends that have been playing the journalism game
for a very long time and arenow podcasters because that's the thing we do.
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And it's just it's I think Ithink a lot of us are very
sad after what we saw. Ithink if you were somebody that doesn't like
Trump, you were really disappointed inBiden's performance. And I think that if
you're somebody that likes Trump, youwere really happy with Biden's performance. I
don't know how many people were genuinely, like super Magafee, really happy with
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Trump's performance. But if it weren'tfor the fact that again Joe was freezing
and having trouble finishing some of histhoughts. In fact, hey, Fouish,
can you pull up that other We'vegot another one. I think it's
a kind number six there. It'sthe other time that we caught him kind
of freezing. Here. This isanother instance. It's a cod should be
with dealing with I meaning we hadto do with y. We finally beat
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medicare. Thank you President. Yeah, that wasn't great. We finally he
came to We finally beat medicare.It was not a COVID thought. And
I gotta tell you, I don'tthink Rump's performance was great, but I
think as much as a lot ofpeople said. I was hearing this from
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people around my daytime office today.They said, the expectations for Biden are
so low. It's why Trump kepttalking about how well he's gonna be on
drugs. He's gonna I mean,they were worried that Biden was gonna come
out and not look like he wason his deathbed. I didn't do himself
to any page. He did notdo himself anything. You're listening to later
with Moe Kelly on demand from KFIAm six forty Mark. You're not gonna
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like to hear this. So again, I told you I have a friend
of mine that's kind of a democraticconsultant's last strategist. He's also an economist.
Uh so he just sent me.Obviously we were on the air,
so we're not watching the CNN postdebate coverage. CNN's Van Jones calls for
Biden to pull out of the race. Well, WHOA take that with a
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grain of salt because it's Van Jonesand he's a hack. Here's what he
says, there are going to bea lot of people who want him to
consider taking a different course. Now, that was not what we needed from
Joe Biden. It is personally painfulfor a lot of people. That's what
Van Jones said. My buddy's response, and I think you'll agree with this
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one, but you tell me ifyou're wrong, JFC. I think you
can guess what that mean. Yeah, Jack, we do not need to
panic at this point. I wasafraid of something like this. He didn't
really have he didn't really have timeto respond given the quantity and magnitude of
lies Trump was shoveling. I knewBiden was in trouble when I heard last
week the CNN wasn't going to factcheck or call bs in real time.
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So there you go. Yeah,I mean my problem with Van Jones is
that if he said it was rainingoutside, I'd make sure I look for
myself. He is not the firstperson I go to for analysis or wisdom
on any subject. But there are, in all fairness, there are plenty
of Democrats who I'm seeing a largemonitoring Twitter and the news and the wires.
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Plenty of Democrats are chucking the nightup at is not a giant w
was not It was not I Iplan on, I have a monologue plan
for my day job tomorrow. Ilooked at that as an unforced are Again.
I don't think Trump looked great,but I felt like for Biden that
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was what we would call it inthe flute bowl in olden gold. I
don't know. I want to stickto facts when in my part of this
discussion and do so much opinion oranalysis. But I will say, thank
my job. I monitor news coverageand media criticism a great deal, and
I get frustrated when I see,you know, all these all these bar
graphs showing like how many New YorkTimes articles there have been about Biden's cognitive
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abilities and how few there have beenabout Trump. I think, in terms
of news coverage, there's been avery weird double standard, and I find
it unacceptable. You know, there'sbeen a lot. I think it's it's
more evident. You may disagree,but I think it's more evident. The
cogniti of decline seems to jump outwhen it comes to Biden. Although State
of the Union but great, andI think up until tonight I probably would
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have agreed with you, But whatI saw tonight was a lot what a
lot of people were saying that thatconcerns me. Right, people's exposure is
limited and you can't watch everything,and I try, and I watch them
both, and I think that it'sit's just unfair to discuss the one without
discussing the other. Yeah, Iam glad that they were able to debate
who had the better golf handicap.They kind of went off track there,
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I will say that very important.All right, how about it? Oh
go ahead, sorry ahead, Well, having gone up, if you got
more to add, I want tomake sure we get we we completed our
thoughts. No, I do,I want to talk about golf. I
grew up across from a golf coursonand hearing a couple old timers argue about
who has the best handicap like thatseemed to be the low point of the
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debate. Yeah, I heard.I'm probably I tried to tell this joke
once before and I slaughtered it.So two old timer's are out golfing.
Let's say, let's say Joe Bidenand Donald Trump are out golfing and uh,
Trump gets the ball and it goes, he slices, it goes out
of the way. Biden hits theball, it goes down the middle of
the fairwe So they go down thereand they decide they're going to go out
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and start looking for Trump's ball.And they go out into the into the
the area by Biden near the outof bounds and they're trying to find Trump's
ball and they're looking around for aboutten minutes and they can't find it.
And Trump says, you know what, just go ahead and play yours and
if I can't find mine, I'lljust drop and I'll meet you up there.
So Biden goes out to the fairwayand he hits his ball and puts
it right on the green. He's, uh, he's getting there, and
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he's he's kind of, you know, putting that marker down to mark where
his ball is. And all ofa sudden, here's punk and he looks
behind him and Trump's Paul drops outof the green and Trump comes up and
he says, oh, man,right after you left, I found it.
And Biden was sitting there thinking tohimself to do I let him just
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get away with lying and play thisout, or do I pull his ball
out of my pocket and call himthe cheater that he is? Yes,
always a good golf joke. Ilove that golf jack. That's a great
one. You're listening to later withMoe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six
forty. Mark, you were talkingabout taking notes. I don't know if
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you've checked the the the show notesthat I've got here. No, I
haven't seen Towalla's been in here.I mean, I was just hammering everything
out like a madman, and Iwas kind of like you. I got
into this. I got about halfan hour into it, and I was
thinking, Ah, this is justgenerally I don't love taking notes on the
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debates here. When it comes toJanuary sixth, Trump, nobody thinks I
violated my oath to protect and defend. We had a great border, we
had the lowest taxes ever, wewere respected. He's horrible. He weaponized
the DOJ. I told people peacefullyand patriotically. Nancy Pelosi's daughter made a
mean documentary. I offered National Guardtroops and I wanted to help, but
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the mayor didn't want it. It'sthe mayor's fault. Those are my notes
on Trump's response of January sixth.Nice I gave up a little after that.
I think I took notes for amaybe forty five minutes and then it
just became too much. Yeah.Yeah, it's been tough. It's been
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tough. I did see. Iwas listening to your newscast and you were
talking about how some people are,you know, questioning the debate performance political
as a giant splash on their homebeing Democrats consider the unthinkable. It's time
for Biden to go. Okay,wait, grain of salt, I would
say, grain of salt. Yeah, listen, it was one bad debate
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performance. And this is the earliestdebate we've ever had. Now here's here's
They do point this out in thearticle, and political is a little bit
it leans a little bit to theright anyway, but that's beside the point.
But they do point out that theyhad hoped that this debate, it
was kind of a gamble. Theythought, you know what, he's gonna
have a debate. They're gonna doit at the end of June. It's
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the earliest debate they've ever had.But if he goes out there, he'll
just have a He'll have a solidperformance like he did on State of the
Union, and then we could stoptalking about his cognitive ability. We can
just stop all that nonsense, andinstead it didn't really help. Here's here's
the biggest problem the Democrats are facingright now. And it's not somebody didn't
It's not that Van Jones didn't likeit, or Van Jones thinks somebody should
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step in there. That's that's notthe big problem. The big problem is
that donors. One of the advisors, speaking with Politico has said that they
had taken no less than half adozen key donors texting disaster and the party
needs to do something. Uh.This advisor did acknowledge that not much as
possible unless Biden steps aside. Thatwas the point I made earlier. It
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is like, well, listen,he's already won the primaries, and the
way the rules are written, theycan't just they can't just replace him at
the convention because so many of thesedifferent states they have delegates who are listen,
you got it. You have tovote the way your state voted the
first the first round, right ifit's if you haven't picked the candidate by
the end of that first round,then you might have the freedom to break
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away from it. But he's he'swon the primaries. He's going to win
it at the at the Democratic Nationalconvention unless he voluntarily steps aside or there's
some sort of a medical incapacitation.The problem I see is donors that are
getting worried. That's got to bea big problem. Consider this. We
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are seeing a very strange phenomenon rightnow when it comes to donations in this
country. It used to be thatyou had some outliers like RFK or Bernie
Sanders. Bernie Sanders was so goodat raising the small adopt the small dollar
donation, right, so good.The big candidates tend to get big donations
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from some of the regulars, themultimillionaires, the billionaires, right, they
tend to get a giant donation.Trump got a giant donation of fifty million
dollars here from one of those massivebillionaires, I think, just last week.
So not on you, But whata weird time that we live in
right now where you have a frontrunning presidential candidate who gets convicted on thirty
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four felonies and in forty eight hoursraises seventy million dollars. Never in our
wildest dreams prior to twenty sixteen didwe ever think that we would see a
candidate who could have thirty four feloniesand not only would stay on the ticket,
but would become a fundraising juggernaut asa result of it. When he
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was on a campaign trail in twentyfifteen twenty sixteen and he said people love
him so much he could shoot somebodyon Fifth Avenue and not lose a vote.
I thought, this man has losthis damn mind. Now I realize
I was totally wrong. He totallycould. He could shoot somebody at Fifth
Avenue and not lose a boat.Mark. I can see you getting schemy
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over there, and you feel likewe should hold our politicians accountable. What
a radical idea. That's weird.I don't I don't know why you get
so worked up over politicians and honesty. That's that's so unjournalistic of me.
No, No, I'm not workedup at all. I'm just sitting here
in the news booth, cracking acold one and kicking back. I couldn't
care less. Yeah, what didyou say earlier that you'd like to see
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the inside of a bar or something? Right now I think you're you'd like
to see both sides of the insideof a bar. I thought that was
good. Debate nights tend to bestressful. You're giving me a flashback to
my old newspaper days too, likeon election nights when when everybody was it
was all hands on deck. Andbut I remember at the newspaper they ordered
his pizza. We don't. Wedon't have pizza tonight. And then that's
the second time I've mentioned that,by the way, Just that right,
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you can tell, you can tellwho the real journalists are because they're focused
on the important stuff like who orderedthe food? I think, didn't you
get to We've been getting a tonof emails from our union reps here lately.
They've been trying to do some negotiations. Maybe we need to talk about
pizza on debate night. Yeah,honestly, it should be a mandatory.
Yeah, every time there's special programming, pizza shall be provided by management to
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all on air staff. Now,let me tell you who always gets the
best deals with food and all ofjournalism, Sports reporters, those guys have
the setup. Unbelievable. Yeah,yeah, and it's because fush is it?
Because those sports guys always have tieswith like the wingstop or something like
that. Right, there's always asports bar that wants to help them out.
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No, it just goes to theaesthetic too, just like yeah,
you know, yeah, you thinkof wings and pizza and you're hanging out
with the dies and you have beersand all that stuff. So they kind
of just it just kind of goeswith it, you know. I agree,
But I'm also with Mark. WhenI watch these debates, I want
to be intoxicated. Maybe next time, instead of CNN sponsoring the debate,
it should be the presidential debate broughtto you by McAllen. McCallen. When
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you can't stand to listen to morethan about two shots worth of what these
idiots have to say, well itwould have to be brought to you by
Zema because if you were doing shotsof straight whiskey through the whole thing every
time, I don't know, somebody, I gotta get there faster, buddy,
I've got to get there faster.Well, okay, I can relate,
and that's all I want to sayon that subject. You might not
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make it out. Callen is mygo to. You're gonna just wanted to
get over faster. You're going toput yourself in the hospital if things could
go on the way things went tonight. That's why I gave up. I
used to I always used to doa bit on drinking games. You know,
if they say this, if theysay that, that kind of thing.
I always used to do a biton that, and I kind of
stopped doing it because I just realizedthat there's no It becomes so predictable that
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if somebody were to actually take meseriously at some point, because you know,
everything gets published online now, showoutsonline, we do some sort of
an online video or something of thesort, if somebody were to ever take
me seriously at some point, Iwould be brought into civil court, say,
and they'd say, did you encouragesomeone to drink every time you that?
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Donald Trump used the superlative, andI go, okay, listen,
I said sip. I just saidSIP. So I just stopped doing the
drinking thing. I totally did.Yeah. I'm better safe than sorry and
in need of a new liver ofa lawyer. My god, I'm Chris
merril k IF. I am sixforty in from O Kelly. Common sense
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left California a long time ago.We're bringing it back. Ks kost HD
two Los Angeles, Orange County liveseverywhere on the video
You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty doing
a bit of a recap to theCNN presidential debate to simulcast on KFI topics
like the economy, Terrence, nationaldebt, Roe v. Wade came up,
and the moderators also pitched immigration,what the different candidates might do about
(00:22):
that foreign policy and also been gettingsome feedback watching some of the different sources
online from what people are thinking invarious parts of the country, Biden supporters,
Trump supporters and undecided what they thinkof this debate. They continue to
talk about the Middle East January sixth, and then about going after political opponents
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as well, and democracy came upand will the takeaway that I'm seeing from
an awful lot if I may,before we dive into some of the specifics,
and guys, feel free to jumpin on this. I gotta tell
you, not a strong performance byBiden. He came out of the gate
(01:06):
and he stumbled, it's tough towin a race when you come out of
the gate your stuff. I don'tknow why listen. I know what you're
gonna say, is you're gonna say, Well, he stumbled out of the
gate because he's old. He stumbledout of the gate because he's senile.
Maybe it could be that he hastrouble organizing his thoughts. It could be
(01:26):
that all that debate prep that he'sdone at Camp David for the last week
was too much. He seemed unfocused. Trump came out looking charismatic and was
able to call Biden out a fewtimes. In fact, Fushi have that
cut number two. At one point, Biden was was having difficulty finishing his
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thought and Trump sort of jumped onit. I know, I know what
you're gonna say. You're gonna say, wait a minute, merrill. It's
a debate. It shouldn't be allabout just the clips for the internet.
But face it, it is whatI've done since I've changed the law.
What's happened. I've changed in theway that now you're in a situation where
the forty percent fewer people coming acrossthe border regally is better than when he
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left office, and I'm going tocontinue to move into we got the total
ban on the total initiative, relativeto what we're going to do with more
border control and more'n sign office,wasn't that I really don't know what he
said at the end of this,and I don't think he knows what he
said either. It was tough.It was tough. It was very difficult.
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It was difficult. So the substanceof the debate actually, in my
opinion, and again, guys feelfree to jump right in on this too,
the substance of the debate was actuallybetter than I thought it was going
to be. They did talk aboutsome things, and they did exactly what
I expected. Trump, to hiscredit, did a great job of pivoting
(02:58):
everything back to the issue was wherehe was the strongest, tax cuts and
the board. Biden did a littlebit of liar liar pants on fire for
Trump, but Trump's messaging was awhole lot clearer. What'd you say,
Mark, it's a firehouse. Iwas following your lead and hanging back.
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Yeah, listen, there's a it. I know there's going to be some
complaints about CNN not fact check.Yeah, that's a disaster. I will
say something about that. CNN doingthis debate with no fact checking, it
makes it no better than the socialmedia platform that is not journalism. They
sorely needed fact checking and I listenedfrom start to finish. There was it
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would have been a big job forsomebody to be a fact checker doing this,
but that was a disaster. Iwas following some of the fact checking
online and they were like, thisneeds context, this is false. This
kind of thing is going on.I think I think New York Times have
like sixty fact checkers watching this isthe next one, so they were understaffed.
Yeah right, yeah, right,Okay, here's let me play Devil's
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advocate. That what you're saying.I hear what you're saying about journalism and
we need fact check if they spendif the journalists are spending their time fact
check and they miss one, thenthe candidate will say I was unfairly treated.
They fact check him, but theydidn't fact check. At what point
do we hold the candidates responsible forknowing what the truth is and calling the
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other person out on it. Imean, isn't that kind of what debate
is about. Like we're going todebate the issue, and if you present
false facts, the onus is kindof on the person to say that's not
true. Well, well, yougot a couple of adversary series going against
each other, and I have tosay every piece of information, study poll,
I see about your average person showsthat they don't know that much about
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current events and news, and thatis the purpose of journalism. If you
don't have journalists there to explain thingsto people, why are you wasting everybody's
time? All right, so letme say this, then, what about
what we're doing right now? Imean we're doing the analysis. CNN's doing
analysis of it. ABC is doinganalysis of it. Everybody's doing analysis of
it. And this is the timeis that the journalists would say, wait
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a minute, that's not true.Wait a minute, that's not true.
But in the throes of the debate, dude, are we putting too much
onus on the moderators? Should theybe simply hosts. I kind of liked
the microphone being cut off, althoughI did read something that said that it
was actually good for Trump because itstopped him from from doing his antics that
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he had done in the past,that actually kept him focused by not having
that microphone on. Well, thatmay be true. One of the last
numbers I saw before I left forwork today was in the twenty twenty debate,
Trump interrupted Biden one hundred and sixtytwo times, and so they had
to install those those things to cutthe mics this time, never been done
in a presidential debate before. Thisis the first time. I kind of
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liked it. As just an outsideviewer, I kind of liked it.
I'm not somebody who's been in anybody'scamp. I have some grave issues with
some of the things that candidates havesaid and done in the past, but
I haven't been I guess you wouldcall me a non committed voter. Mostly,
I'm just hoping that one of bothof them gets replaced. And I
(06:25):
know it sounds like I'm being facetious. I'm not kind of hoping one both
of them gets replaced. And tothat point, New York Times one of
the reporters says, the feedback I'mgetting from Democrats early in this debate,
and this is in the first hour, is that it's not kind to bide
people. Biden supporters who have notwatched either candidate closely this year are shocked
at how much more articulate Trump appearsin this debate. I gotta agree.
(06:48):
I have to agree with that.I think that in many cases Trump was
doing he was speaking trump Andese wherehe would sort of nobody's ever seen.
It was incredible, it was huge, huge, It was nobody's it's it's
just and this guy. I getthat, but it felt like with Trump,
when he was cutting himself short,he was moving towards something. When
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Biden was stumbling, it just feltlike like he was just playing stumbling like
it was. It wasn't like hewas trying to get to something. It
was like he was just trying notto fall apart. Let's see, Oh,
here's one where Biden did land.I thought this was a really good
thing for Biden. When they wentto talking about the military, Biden became
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very i'm going to say, emotionallycharged. He obviously feels very deeply about
this Bush. Can you go tocutt number four there? And this had
everything to do with the whole suckerand loser thing which Trump said, I
have nineteen witnesses that say it neverhappened, and I guess I would argue,
well, then they weren't witnesses.Can you go ahead and play that
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Buckers, My son was not aloser. He's not a sucker. You're
the sucker. You're the loser.Presidential Yeah, you're the sucker. You're
the loser. I thought it wasvery strong, thought, it was very
pointed. It also didn't help.And look, I know sometimes when people
watch it on TV versus when peoplewatch it or listen to it on the
radio, there can be a difference. The opinion that the most famous case,
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of course, is the very firsttelevised debate, the Nixon Kennedy debate.
People who watched it Kennedy one.People who listened to it Nixon one.
But Biden doesn't sound great. Hedoes not. Trump's voice hasn't changed.
Biden sounds withered, if I'm beinghonest, he sounds Oh. The
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Biden we saw tonight was not theBiden we saw at the State of the
Union. Of press and I knowa lot I know on the right of
been saying well, that's because hewas he was popped up on drugs and
they had him on stimulants or whatever. I don't know. I don't know
if it was or not, butI can tell you the Biden tonight was
(09:00):
not the Biden from State of theUnion. He didn't look he didn't look
grand at all, and frankly,it was kind of disheartening to see that.
All right. More debate coverage continueshere The CNN presidential Debate with simulcast
and KFI you heard it here.We're going to continue talking about it a
little bit more next. You're listeningtoo later with Moe Kelly on demand from
(09:24):
KFI AM six forty. If I'mbeing straight with you, they went a
long time in that first second,right didn't they go? I mean it
was almost fifty straight minutes that theydid that first second. And I thought
that the questions and the content werereally strong. Economy, tariffs, national
debt, Roe v. Wade.I mean, they were hitting the they
were hitting all the big ones.They finally got to immigration, even though
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Trump was pivoting to immigration and continueto repeat a number of his stump speeches
about President Biden letting eighteen to twentymillion people across the border. Yesterday on
the program, we fact checked thatthat's just not accurate. He continued to
say that Joe Biden was putting andI don't know where this came from.
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This seems this seems like a stretchA Trump isn't. If you will,
he said that illegal immigrants were beingbeing put up in luxury hotels while veterans
were being kicked out of the VA. Those two things, of course,
are not related. But we're supposedto compare one to the other, to
say how off one's right. Listen, nobody wants to put veterans on the
(10:28):
street. Nobody take a servant.See how many people said, let's put
veterans on the street. Nobody wantsthem. See how many people say,
let's put people who are in thecountry illegally up in luxury hotels. Trump
is sort of painting the picture asthough illegal immigrants are getting a stay at
Marhago while veterans are being shipped off. He does a great job of passing
that along. He really does.He does a great job of painting that
(10:50):
picture. Biden kind of kind ofcame back with NEMO. In fact,
let me see, I've got yeah, here it is. They brought Roe
v. Wade. Here's what Iwrote my notes Roe v. Wade.
Trump takes credit for overturning Row willnot block abortion pills, claims everybody,
without exception, wanted the abortion questionto go back to the States. Every
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legal scholar wants abortion to be astate's issue. Believes in exceptions for rape,
incest, in life of mother.Anyone who disagrees is a radical who
wants to provide post term abortion.In other words, give birth to the
baby, set the baby aside,and then decided that the baby should deliver
dot Those were his Biden says,the vast majority of smart people support Roe.
Trump said. Trump then didn't wantto talk about abortion. He said
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illegal killers are raping and killing women. In my notes, Biden, I
said, Now, sure Biden knowswhere he is right now. At that
point, he just looked dates,came back to the topic and said he
supports Roe, and doctors and mothersshould be making the decisions, not politicians
and states. Trump says, Joewants abortion in the ninth month or after.
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Biden shoots back with uh not forlate term abortion period period. Trump
says, yes, you do,liar, liar, pants on fire.
You like late term abortions. Bidensays he hates women. Those were my
notes. That was my That wasme paraphrasing what I was hearing. Listen,
maybe you don't agree with it,but I'm telling you, as a
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voter, just like you are,my vot's worth as much as yours,
yours as much as mine. WhatI heard was Trump pivot away from abortion
where he knows it's not a winningargument for the GOP. Right Now,
back to illegal immigration, which heknows is a winning argument for the GOP.
And then it turned in an uhya hun uh yea hunh huh.
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And then at some point during allof that sort of nonsense going on,
upset we need to act like grownups. I thought that was really interesting,
especially considering that offucialists go to cuttwelve. There we're acting like grownups.
But the debate near the end reallygot off the rails when they started doing
over whose golf handicap was better andonly two hundred and twenty thirty pounds or
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twenty thirty five pounds. Well yousaid sixty four two hundred. Well anyway,
that's you. Anyway, just takea look at what he says he
is, and take a look atwhat he is. Look I'd be happy
to have a driving contest with him, Harim. I got my handicap,
which when I was vice president downto six. And but by the way
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I told you before, I'm happyto play golf. If you carry your
own bag, I think you cando it. That's the biggest lie.
When he is a six handicap,of all, I was an eight handicap
now eight. But I have youknow, I've seen this wing I know
this wing. Let's not act likeLet's not act like children. Let's not
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act like children. We're gonna goahead and fight over whose handicap is better,
but let's not act like children.That. I don't know who took
debate on that. To be honest, I really don't. Have you ever
been in an argument. I don'tcare if it's with somebody, if it's
with a spouse, if it's withsomebody at the bar. I don't know.
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This happens to my wife and Iall the time. Somebody will say
something I say all the time.Let's say when we argue, and I'm
sure that if you're in a relationship, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Where you're arguing about something and oneperson will then derail the art and
it goes from being about this onething to oh, yeah, well you
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did this, and then the otherperson's put on the teeth fence to say,
well you didn't put the toilet seatdown, Well you don't have to
the dishwasher, Well you didn't putanother bag in the trash, Well you
never start the recycling, And allof a sudden, you go, what
the hell were we arguing about?To start with? The same thing here.
They started arguing about who had thebetter handicap. What how does that?
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You know who I think the biggestwinner was tonight. No, this
is gonna sound like I'm trying toformulate a punchline. I'm not. Do
you know what I think was thebiggest winner tonight? In this debate,
Jack Daniels close because many people werecoping. Yes, he rf I think
RFK was the biggest winner. Really, I said before, Joe Biden has
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lost his fastball. Listen, Ithink the slider's gone down. It's not
there. And Trump like, Idon't think you could ever get a fastball
over the plate. He might beable to throw it as hard as he
ever has, but it's he's neverthrown a strike right now, RFK is
going. That's That's what I'm witnessinga little bit more on what people are
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saying, the feedback from people whowere being pulled in real time this sort
of thing, because is there achance the two guys you saw on the
stage tonight are not the same twopeople you see in the next debate.
If you are an insider, youmight say the answer is yes, who
thinks what next? You're listening toolater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
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Ams. I'm having debates with afriend online right now, and this friend
of mine does not care for Trump, does not like Trump. You never
liked them, and I gotta tellyou, I'm not a big thing.
I felt like the four years inoffice were frantic and chaotic and and I
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didn't like his leadership at all atall. That's it when it comes to
cognitive decline. Over the last fouryears. What I saw tonight, Biden
has fallen right off the cliff.I feel like Trump is the same Trump
that we've been seeing. And Iwas trying to tell my friend this and
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he says, no, no,no, he's deteriorating too. He's bad
too. Listen. I get it. I know you're not happy with Trump.
I know you don't like him.I know you want him to be
really bad. I know that.I know that everything in you is going
to pick apart everything Trump says.I get that. But as as an
observer on the outside watching what wasgoing on, Yeah, Trump told a
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bunch of of Phipps, I getit. Trump dodge questions about Charlottesville and
was talking about the people on Jsix that they were patriots and and how
Biden was using lawfare to try togo after his political opponents. In fact,
hang on it, guys, theway about, We've got a cut
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of that, right, yeah,number seven there guys. Trump uh,
Trump and Biden started fighting over apolitical retribution of foes. You play that,
boosh Well. I said, myretribution is going to be success.
We're going to make this country successfulagain, because right now it's a failing
nation. My retribution is going tobe success. But when he talks about
a convicted fella and his son isa convicted heelen at a very high level.
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His son is convicted, going tobe convicted, probably numerous other times
should have been convicted before, buthis justice apartment let the statute of limitations
laps and the most important things.But he could be a convicted fella as
soon as he gets out of office. Joe could be a con a fellow
with all of the things that he'sdone. He's done horrible things, all
of the death cause, at theborder, telling the Ukrainian people that we're
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going to want a billion dollars oryou change the prosecutor otherwise you're not getting
a billion dollars. If I eversaid that that's quid pro quo, that
we're not going to do anything.We're not going to give you a billion
dollars unless you change your prosecutor havingto do with the son. This man
is a criminal. This man,you're lucky. You're lucky. I did
nothing wrong. We'd have a systemthat was rigged and disgusting. I did
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nothing wrong, Thank you, allright? So I did nothing wrong.
I did nothing wrong. I'm atotally innocent person. But his son is
a terrible person, and the onlyreason he doesn't have more felonies is because
of his justice department, But thenasserts that the same justice department would somehow
charge him with a bunch of felonieswar and then he went back to the
border because he knows that's an issuethat you're strong. I don't care for.
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I don't care for the talk aboutlaw fair doesn't do anything. It
just doesn't like. I don't buyit. Dude, you're guilty. You're
charging a bunch of other stuff.We saw the boxes in mar A Lago
stacked up next to the toilet.You're gonna tell me I didn't see that.
I saw it right. I sawthat. I saw what happened on
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January sixth. I saw it.I witnessed it in real time. It
was there. You're gonna tell methat didn't happen. Of course it did.
But I don't feel like Biden evergot that. In basketball, you
call it the dagger, right,they hit a three pointer with a little
time left and they already have thelead, and the announcer will say dagger.
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Biden never had that dagger never.New York Times has talked with people
and Kristin Morris is sixty years old. She's a nursing student, so she's
gone back to school in her sixtiesfor a new career. Lives in a
suburb outside of Charlotte, North Carolina. Is unenthusiastic about voting for Biden or
Trump, and said that the hyperboleon both sides is really really hard to
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stomach. Halfway through the debate,she said she was troubled by Trump's lack
of remorse about his role in thej six riots, but she was also
very concerned by Biden's inability to coherentlyfinish thoughts. It's just so unsettling,
she said, of both candidates,I kind of with you. I get
the same takeaway from that, Uhgo to cut five there foosh. Biden
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did have trouble finishing thoughts like thistime, being sure that we continue to
suppeen stays in our healthcare system,making sure that we're able to make every
single solitary person eligible for what I'vebeen able to do with the the COVID
astige, with dealing with everything wehave to do with. Yeah, yes
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we finally beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden. President account genuinely pain,
genuinely pain. I felt bad forthe name. The thoughts weren't coming,
the words weren't for me. Itjust wasn't there. And I got
a tell, as we go tothe ballot box, right, we go
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to the pools, we are lookingfor a leader. Right, That's the
truth. We're looking for a leader. Granted, we are wired for watching
thrills of debates. This debate wasnot very spring or esque. I kind
of expected it to be. Itwas a bit of a buck down let
reringer. But we want those thrills. We've got a fight or flight instinct
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for ourselves. It's not fight flightor sleep. And this was a little
bit of a sleep, which iswhy I think some people were getting kind
of bored, except for we startedto feel really bad for Joe Biden.
The worst we felt for Joe Biden. As he started to show some of
these moments, the less likely itwas that he was going to win.
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We gravitate toward charisma, and inmany ways, charisma equals leadership. Now
you're going to disagree with me outof principle, and I agree. But
think about how we view these debates. We always want to see We say,
who won the debate was a personthat had the charisma, whereas the
kids would say, riz, wewant to follow somebody. The smartest guy
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in the room may not be theone that best rallies. The troops and
politicians know this. They know it. We want somebody that commands respect,
somebody that we will follow just tosee where they go. Eisenhower or Patten.
Eisenhower was a smart guy. Hewas a great leader on the battlefield.
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Though when they needed somebody who wasgoing to be in charge of the
push, it was Patten. Pattenwas the general that people would volunteer to
die for. Patten would say,how many us O bees want to follow
me? You may come back andthey all raise their hands. Hatton was
the guy who would lead you intohell and back. Doesn't mean that Patten
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was dumb or the Eisenhower was boring. It just meant that one man knew
better how to inspire. And rightnow, we want to be inspired,
want to feel like we have somecontrol, and that means electing a guy
that makes us feel strong. Andthat's why the candidates ironically the oldest and
the most physically feeble after FDR forobvious reasons. They don't get too far
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in to the policy weeds. Theyjust say border is broken, abortion is
abortion is it should be legalized nationwide. They don't really dive into the weeds
of it. They want to giveyou a feeling of inspiration. And Biden
fell short of that. He feltwell shortened, and so Biden fans are
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not raising. In fact, NewYork Times one of their embedded reporters is
a group of House Democratic lawmakers saidthey were watching the debate together and acknowledged
it was a disaster. They werediscussing the need for a new presidential nominee.
Will that happen? Don't know,but ask yourself this, if that
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debate will between Donald Trump and GavinNewsom, who would have worn You're listening
to Later with Moe Kelly on demandfrom KFI A M six forty Mark.
I got some feedback from some friendsaverage voters. You're in love this as
well as I have one friend whois a Democratic kind of a strategist consultant,
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I guess, and another friend who'sa Hispanic producer in radio. I
thought you were going to say youhad ordered a pizza for us here at
the station. That's what I washoping for. So this is my buddy
el all right. He's a goodfriend of mine. He's Hispanic, grew
up in Los Angeles, has family, and spends a lot of time TJ.
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Here's what he says. This isso brilliant per the debate tonight,
Olah, I just got out ofprison and made my way into the US
by walking across the border with thousandsof my fellow prison maids. Now that
I'm here in Cape Cod, Iwas able to get a luxury hotel room,
social Security card, free education,free healthcare, and I'm registered to
vote. Luckily, I was ableto get a great paying job that would
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go back and that would go toblacks and Hispanics. Plus I'm looking to
kill people. Can you tell mewhere I can vote for Biden. Me
and my friends are available to voteseveral times. Thanks love your show.
Oh, also setting things up formy cousin and his friends in the asylums,
so I'll make sure they listen.So sounds like our ratings are going
up. Ark, we got thatgoing for us. Well, the world
loves good satire. Are they throwingin a tesla with with for the guy?
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I did get that, you know, And I made that point that
at one point Trump was trying tosay that anybody who was here illegally was
going into luxury hotels after they getdone killing and raping people. But veterans
were being booted out of the streetand VA's were being closed down, And
I mean, he really painted adystopian future that was being overrun by by
the twenty million people coming across thesouthern border. Can we get a fact
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check on that, because the laststats I've seen, and we've reported this
this week, is that border apprehensionsare down like forty percent. Yeah,
and then I heard somebody one ofthe uh oh, one of the sheriffs
along the southern border, was saying, I know they're not They're playing numbers
games. Okay, it's still nottwenty million people crossing the border since Biden
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took over. I mean we lookedup. We looked it up yesterday,
and I used the most reliable sourceI could thing. And again you're the
one. I hope things paying yousomething for this. They should be,
shouldn't they please? So I mean, we binged it and the worst,
the worst number we could find totalnumber of people living undocumented in the United
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States, sixteen and a half million, that was the word. That was
the highest number we could find.So this notion that there's twenty million coming
across the border in the last threeand a half years, just in saying,
is it okay, standard number somewherearound eleven million, eleven or twelve,
yeah, game somewhere there. Yeah, And that's been pretty consistent.
Drop a little bit here, dropa little bit there. The other thing,
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too, is that I noticed,and I knew this was going to
happen. The politicians and Trump diedthis especially. It loves to play both
sides of COVID. We developed thevaccine, We saved lives. It was
all because of our vaccine, andthis guy did the worst things, the
most horrible things. Many people diedand the mandates were horrible, and I
thought the mandates for the vaccine youdeveloped, right, like it playing both
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sides of that. And then itwas we had stopped all the fechnel coming
across the border, and in thelast couple of months I was in office,
we had the lowest border crossings ever, and I thought, yeah,
it was COVID time. I mean, we shut the border down for COVID,
so I didn't really have anything todo with policy other than we were
able to shut it down because itwas considered a health emergency. So it's
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like, we're playing both sides ofCOVID, right. Yeah, I'd like
to play both sides of a divebar right now. I was just exhausting
because I was taking notes throughout thewhole thing, and I actually gave up
taking notes because it was just like, there's too much. We need fact
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checkers working on this stuff, becausethis is a public service. You don't
just platform this stuff to go outinto the world with no quality control.
People need to be alerted to whatthey're hearing is true and which part is
false. I think there's gonna beplenty of stories about that in the next
coming days, but here. Thisis from a friend of mine who is
kind of a democratic strategist. Allright, you sent me this tex main
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hopes now are that One, thiswhole thing was such an abject spit show
that no one really wins in termsof gaining brown with the eight actual undecided
voters left out there. And two, this is late June. A convention,
speeches, convictions, and any numberof other events remain that will shuffle
the cards anew. Bad debate performancehave traditionally been fatal, but it ain't
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mid October this time around. Sothis is from he's a political walk he's
a strategist, and I mean hesends the text with the assumption that it
was a really bad show for Biden. I mean he didn't even have to
say it doesn't look good. Hejust said this is this is horrible.
So that's democratic strategies. A friendof mine who is kind of a let's
call him an independent motor says,old men content, Old men comment coming,
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sound like Buden, old man commentforthcoming. Damn, I missed the
America before all the hate and vitrioldebates were more civilized and things to social
media, the debate is even greaterthan ever, I said, I love
your old man commentary. He said, I heard tell. I love it
when people say that the phrase heardtell. I heard tell that Biden may
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be replaced by Michelle Obama. Oh, come on, that's no way.
No, okay, no, no, it's not gonna I don't know that.
I don't. I don't think thatDemocrats can replace Biden. Well,
first of all, convention rules Idon't think would allow them to replace Biden
unless there was a reason for himto not be in the race, like
he intentionally drops out. He wouldhave to say I'm out or you know,
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medical incapacitation of some sort. SoI don't think you can. I
don't think that the party can justjump in and replace him per their own
rules, So I don't They're notabout to. I mean that time.
I think that it would be adisaster. It would make you look like
the most splinter party that has noidea what you're doing at all. Absolutely
better to have a Canada that youdon't really like than to look like you
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don't know what you're doing. Holdthem and then get behind. I just
thought it was fascinating to get someof that feedback from people that I have.
I call them friends for a reason, you know, And I got
friends on both sides. I havefriends that have been playing the journalism game
for a very long time and arenow podcasters because that's the thing we do.
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And it's just it's I think Ithink a lot of us are very
sad after what we saw. Ithink if you were somebody that doesn't like
Trump, you were really disappointed inBiden's performance. And I think that if
you're somebody that likes Trump, youwere really happy with Biden's performance. I
don't know how many people were genuinely, like super Magafee, really happy with
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Trump's performance. But if it weren'tfor the fact that again Joe was freezing
and having trouble finishing some of histhoughts. In fact, hey, Fouish,
can you pull up that other We'vegot another one. I think it's
a kind number six there. It'sthe other time that we caught him kind
of freezing. Here. This isanother instance. It's a cod should be
with dealing with I meaning we hadto do with y. We finally beat
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medicare. Thank you President. Yeah, that wasn't great. We finally he
came to We finally beat medicare.It was not a COVID thought. And
I gotta tell you, I don'tthink Rump's performance was great, but I
think as much as a lot ofpeople said. I was hearing this from
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people around my daytime office today.They said, the expectations for Biden are
so low. It's why Trump kepttalking about how well he's gonna be on
drugs. He's gonna I mean,they were worried that Biden was gonna come
out and not look like he wason his deathbed. I didn't do himself
to any page. He did notdo himself anything. You're listening to later
with Moe Kelly on demand from KFIAm six forty Mark. You're not gonna
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like to hear this. So again, I told you I have a friend
of mine that's kind of a democraticconsultant's last strategist. He's also an economist.
Uh so he just sent me.Obviously we were on the air,
so we're not watching the CNN postdebate coverage. CNN's Van Jones calls for
Biden to pull out of the race. Well, WHOA take that with a
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grain of salt because it's Van Jonesand he's a hack. Here's what he
says, there are going to bea lot of people who want him to
consider taking a different course. Now, that was not what we needed from
Joe Biden. It is personally painfulfor a lot of people. That's what
Van Jones said. My buddy's response, and I think you'll agree with this
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one, but you tell me ifyou're wrong, JFC. I think you
can guess what that mean. Yeah, Jack, we do not need to
panic at this point. I wasafraid of something like this. He didn't
really have he didn't really have timeto respond given the quantity and magnitude of
lies Trump was shoveling. I knewBiden was in trouble when I heard last
week the CNN wasn't going to factcheck or call bs in real time.
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So there you go. Yeah,I mean my problem with Van Jones is
that if he said it was rainingoutside, I'd make sure I look for
myself. He is not the firstperson I go to for analysis or wisdom
on any subject. But there are, in all fairness, there are plenty
of Democrats who I'm seeing a largemonitoring Twitter and the news and the wires.
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Plenty of Democrats are chucking the nightup at is not a giant w
was not It was not I Iplan on, I have a monologue plan
for my day job tomorrow. Ilooked at that as an unforced are Again.
I don't think Trump looked great,but I felt like for Biden that
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was what we would call it inthe flute bowl in olden gold. I
don't know. I want to stickto facts when in my part of this
discussion and do so much opinion oranalysis. But I will say, thank
my job. I monitor news coverageand media criticism a great deal, and
I get frustrated when I see,you know, all these all these bar
graphs showing like how many New YorkTimes articles there have been about Biden's cognitive
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abilities and how few there have beenabout Trump. I think, in terms
of news coverage, there's been avery weird double standard, and I find
it unacceptable. You know, there'sbeen a lot. I think it's it's
more evident. You may disagree,but I think it's more evident. The
cogniti of decline seems to jump outwhen it comes to Biden. Although State
of the Union but great, andI think up until tonight I probably would
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have agreed with you, But whatI saw tonight was a lot what a
lot of people were saying that thatconcerns me. Right, people's exposure is
limited and you can't watch everything,and I try, and I watch them
both, and I think that it'sit's just unfair to discuss the one without
discussing the other. Yeah, Iam glad that they were able to debate
who had the better golf handicap.They kind of went off track there,
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I will say that very important.All right, how about it? Oh
go ahead, sorry ahead, Well, having gone up, if you got
more to add, I want tomake sure we get we we completed our
thoughts. No, I do,I want to talk about golf. I
grew up across from a golf coursonand hearing a couple old timers argue about
who has the best handicap like thatseemed to be the low point of the
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debate. Yeah, I heard.I'm probably I tried to tell this joke
once before and I slaughtered it.So two old timer's are out golfing.
Let's say, let's say Joe Bidenand Donald Trump are out golfing and uh,
Trump gets the ball and it goes, he slices, it goes out
of the way. Biden hits theball, it goes down the middle of
the fairwe So they go down thereand they decide they're going to go out
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and start looking for Trump's ball.And they go out into the into the
the area by Biden near the outof bounds and they're trying to find Trump's
ball and they're looking around for aboutten minutes and they can't find it.
And Trump says, you know what, just go ahead and play yours and
if I can't find mine, I'lljust drop and I'll meet you up there.
So Biden goes out to the fairwayand he hits his ball and puts
it right on the green. He's, uh, he's getting there, and
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he's he's kind of, you know, putting that marker down to mark where
his ball is. And all ofa sudden, here's punk and he looks
behind him and Trump's Paul drops outof the green and Trump comes up and
he says, oh, man,right after you left, I found it.
And Biden was sitting there thinking tohimself to do I let him just
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get away with lying and play thisout, or do I pull his ball
out of my pocket and call himthe cheater that he is? Yes,
always a good golf joke. Ilove that golf jack. That's a great
one. You're listening to later withMoe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six
forty. Mark, you were talkingabout taking notes. I don't know if
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you've checked the the the show notesthat I've got here. No, I
haven't seen Towalla's been in here.I mean, I was just hammering everything
out like a madman, and Iwas kind of like you. I got
into this. I got about halfan hour into it, and I was
thinking, Ah, this is justgenerally I don't love taking notes on the
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debates here. When it comes toJanuary sixth, Trump, nobody thinks I
violated my oath to protect and defend. We had a great border, we
had the lowest taxes ever, wewere respected. He's horrible. He weaponized
the DOJ. I told people peacefullyand patriotically. Nancy Pelosi's daughter made a
mean documentary. I offered National Guardtroops and I wanted to help, but
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the mayor didn't want it. It'sthe mayor's fault. Those are my notes
on Trump's response of January sixth.Nice I gave up a little after that.
I think I took notes for amaybe forty five minutes and then it
just became too much. Yeah.Yeah, it's been tough. It's been
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tough. I did see. Iwas listening to your newscast and you were
talking about how some people are,you know, questioning the debate performance political
as a giant splash on their homebeing Democrats consider the unthinkable. It's time
for Biden to go. Okay,wait, grain of salt, I would
say, grain of salt. Yeah, listen, it was one bad debate
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performance. And this is the earliestdebate we've ever had. Now here's here's
They do point this out in thearticle, and political is a little bit
it leans a little bit to theright anyway, but that's beside the point.
But they do point out that theyhad hoped that this debate, it
was kind of a gamble. Theythought, you know what, he's gonna
have a debate. They're gonna doit at the end of June. It's
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the earliest debate they've ever had.But if he goes out there, he'll
just have a He'll have a solidperformance like he did on State of the
Union, and then we could stoptalking about his cognitive ability. We can
just stop all that nonsense, andinstead it didn't really help. Here's here's
the biggest problem the Democrats are facingright now. And it's not somebody didn't
It's not that Van Jones didn't likeit, or Van Jones thinks somebody should
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step in there. That's that's notthe big problem. The big problem is
that donors. One of the advisors, speaking with Politico has said that they
had taken no less than half adozen key donors texting disaster and the party
needs to do something. Uh.This advisor did acknowledge that not much as
possible unless Biden steps aside. Thatwas the point I made earlier. It
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is like, well, listen,he's already won the primaries, and the
way the rules are written, theycan't just they can't just replace him at
the convention because so many of thesedifferent states they have delegates who are listen,
you got it. You have tovote the way your state voted the
first the first round, right ifit's if you haven't picked the candidate by
the end of that first round,then you might have the freedom to break
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away from it. But he's he'swon the primaries. He's going to win
it at the at the Democratic Nationalconvention unless he voluntarily steps aside or there's
some sort of a medical incapacitation.The problem I see is donors that are
getting worried. That's got to bea big problem. Consider this. We
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are seeing a very strange phenomenon rightnow when it comes to donations in this
country. It used to be thatyou had some outliers like RFK or Bernie
Sanders. Bernie Sanders was so goodat raising the small adopt the small dollar
donation, right, so good.The big candidates tend to get big donations
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from some of the regulars, themultimillionaires, the billionaires, right, they
tend to get a giant donation.Trump got a giant donation of fifty million
dollars here from one of those massivebillionaires, I think, just last week.
So not on you, But whata weird time that we live in
right now where you have a frontrunning presidential candidate who gets convicted on thirty
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four felonies and in forty eight hoursraises seventy million dollars. Never in our
wildest dreams prior to twenty sixteen didwe ever think that we would see a
candidate who could have thirty four feloniesand not only would stay on the ticket,
but would become a fundraising juggernaut asa result of it. When he
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was on a campaign trail in twentyfifteen twenty sixteen and he said people love
him so much he could shoot somebodyon Fifth Avenue and not lose a vote.
I thought, this man has losthis damn mind. Now I realize
I was totally wrong. He totallycould. He could shoot somebody at Fifth
Avenue and not lose a boat.Mark. I can see you getting schemy
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over there, and you feel likewe should hold our politicians accountable. What
a radical idea. That's weird.I don't I don't know why you get
so worked up over politicians and honesty. That's that's so unjournalistic of me.
No, No, I'm not workedup at all. I'm just sitting here
in the news booth, cracking acold one and kicking back. I couldn't
care less. Yeah, what didyou say earlier that you'd like to see
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the inside of a bar or something? Right now I think you're you'd like
to see both sides of the insideof a bar. I thought that was
good. Debate nights tend to bestressful. You're giving me a flashback to
my old newspaper days too, likeon election nights when when everybody was it
was all hands on deck. Andbut I remember at the newspaper they ordered
his pizza. We don't. Wedon't have pizza tonight. And then that's
the second time I've mentioned that,by the way, Just that right,
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you can tell, you can tellwho the real journalists are because they're focused
on the important stuff like who orderedthe food? I think, didn't you
get to We've been getting a tonof emails from our union reps here lately.
They've been trying to do some negotiations. Maybe we need to talk about
pizza on debate night. Yeah,honestly, it should be a mandatory.
Yeah, every time there's special programming, pizza shall be provided by management to
(43:19):
all on air staff. Now,let me tell you who always gets the
best deals with food and all ofjournalism, Sports reporters, those guys have
the setup. Unbelievable. Yeah,yeah, and it's because fush is it?
Because those sports guys always have tieswith like the wingstop or something like
that. Right, there's always asports bar that wants to help them out.
(43:42):
No, it just goes to theaesthetic too, just like yeah,
you know, yeah, you thinkof wings and pizza and you're hanging out
with the dies and you have beersand all that stuff. So they kind
of just it just kind of goeswith it, you know. I agree,
But I'm also with Mark. WhenI watch these debates, I want
to be intoxicated. Maybe next time, instead of CNN sponsoring the debate,
it should be the presidential debate broughtto you by McAllen. McCallen. When
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you can't stand to listen to morethan about two shots worth of what these
idiots have to say, well itwould have to be brought to you by
Zema because if you were doing shotsof straight whiskey through the whole thing every
time, I don't know, somebody, I gotta get there faster, buddy,
I've got to get there faster.Well, okay, I can relate,
and that's all I want to sayon that subject. You might not
(44:27):
make it out. Callen is mygo to. You're gonna just wanted to
get over faster. You're going toput yourself in the hospital if things could
go on the way things went tonight. That's why I gave up. I
used to I always used to doa bit on drinking games. You know,
if they say this, if theysay that, that kind of thing.
I always used to do a biton that, and I kind of
stopped doing it because I just realizedthat there's no It becomes so predictable that
(44:54):
if somebody were to actually take meseriously at some point, because you know,
everything gets published online now, showoutsonline, we do some sort of
an online video or something of thesort, if somebody were to ever take
me seriously at some point, Iwould be brought into civil court, say,
and they'd say, did you encouragesomeone to drink every time you that?
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Donald Trump used the superlative, andI go, okay, listen,
I said sip. I just saidSIP. So I just stopped doing the
drinking thing. I totally did.Yeah. I'm better safe than sorry and
in need of a new liver ofa lawyer. My god, I'm Chris
merril k IF. I am sixforty in from O Kelly. Common sense
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