June 29, 2024 • 34 mins
Is it maybe bye-bye Biden time? Chris talks through the arguments and the possibilities and says it’s a circular firing squad with the Democrat party. Today’s supposedly the busiest travel day of the year at LAX due to the upcoming July 4th holiday and a lot of people expected to be taking the week off in anticipation. Teachers are as excited as students to be out for the Summer. American teachers are stressed-out, burned-out, and underpaid. Oklahoma State Super Intendent directed all teachers to teach about the Bible. A sociologist explained that college may not be the ‘great equalizer - luck and hiring practices also play a role. A sociologist explained that college may not be the ‘great equalizer - luck and hiring practices also play a role. The new workplace ettiquette for not annoying your coworkers at the office.
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K f I A M sixty you'relistening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
on the iHeartRadio app debate and wohe was concerned. This friend of mine
is a Democratic consultant. Let's justsay consultant. He's been an economist this
whole life. And uh, heis sending me all sorts of feedback about
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this debate. What happens, what'swhat the future is going to be?
Uh, and he is concerned.He says, listen, this is a
This has become a circular firing squadwithin the Democratic parties. They're all pointing,
and they're saying, oh my gosh, we're toast. We got to
get Joe Biden out of there.This is this is so bad. That
debate performance was the exact opposite ofeverything that we needed. This is a
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this is a bad story. Anotherfriend of mine, again on the left
side of the aisle, says,talking to a psychiatrist at dinner tonight.
Now save your jokes, says prettygrim. It's all over unless there's a
new nominee. They're not alone.The New York Times editorial board headline,
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to serve his country, President Bidenshould leave the race, says Donald Trump
has proved himself to be a significantjeopardy to the democracy and a ratic and
self interested figure worthy of the publicunworthy, excuse me of the public trust.
They go on to say, Bidensaid that he's the candidate with the
best chance of taking on this threatof tyranny and defeating it. His argument
rests largely on the fact that hebeat Trump last time. That is no
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longer a sufficient rationale for why misterBiden should be the Democratic nominee of this
year. As of the debate,the President needed to convince American people he
was equal to the formidable demands ofthe office that he is seeking to hold
for another term. Voters cannot beexpected to ignore what was instead plain to
see. Mister Biden is not theman he was four years ago. That
from the Gray Lady from the DailyBeast headline opinion, Jill Biden must step
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up now to help oust her husband. They make the case that he's not
going anywhere unless Jill Biden says she'son board. And yet Jill Biden was
asked specifically about this Robin you wantto play cut two there. This is
what Jill Biden had to say,Joe, you did such a great job.
You answered every question. You knowall that. Let me ask the
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crowd, what did Trump do?Yes? Yes, lie, yes.
I always love it when there's acall and response from the crowd and they
most of them get it right,but it just ends up coming out like
what did he do? And they'relike he roh, And she's like,
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that's right, lie, very good. That's a teacher right there. Good
job, class, good job.What about Biden? A lot of people
saying he should step aside, butwhat does he say? If you saw
his rally this morning, it wasa different guy than what we saw last
night. So, Biden, howdid you do? Cut three? Biden?
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How to go? I don't walkas easy as I used to.
I don't speak as smooth as Iused to debate as well as I used
to. But I know what Ido know. I know how to tell
the truth. I know, Iknow, I know right from Rome,
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and I know how to do thisjob. I know how to get things
done. I know, like theminutes of Americas know when you get knocked
down, you get back up.I know what it took to take our
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economy in the depths of pandemic iswhere it is today, the strongest economy
in the world. I know it'lltake to bring this economy to everybody.
I don't take to rally the worldto stand up against Putin and defend free,
to not yield to him, andI know take to keep the world
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safe and free for the years ahead. Folks, I give you my words,
a Biden. I would not berunning again if I didn't believe with
all my heart and soul I cando this job. Because quite factory,
all right. So there you go. Even when you're listening to that,
there are moments that he starts asentence and isn't exactly sure, but he
comes up with the words. We'recoming up with the words last night.
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The energy today was different, thegrasp of the words were different. And
listen, I talk for a living. I gotta tell you I got good
days and bad days. It's true. There's days that for some reason.
In fact, I've gotten off theair before my wife says how's the show?
And my wife gets angry with mebecause I'm very hard on myself.
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So she's like, how's the showon? I was terrible, and she
said, don't say that. Ilike when you say that, Yeah,
it was terrible, and so she'salways surprised when I feel like I have
a good show. That was theshow, and she expects me to go.
Yeah. So sometimes I'll feel likeI had a really good shoes,
how's the show, and I feelreally good of it. I feel really
good about that. Oftentimes, theshows I feel good about the shows where
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I'm able to find the words,the vocabulary I'm seeking comes to me.
The days where I feel like I'mstumbling in the blocks are the days that
I feel that was not good atall. That or I have technical difficulties,
and Mark's been around for most ofthose. In fact, I think
Mark might be the crap magnet whenit comes to my technical difficulties. Yeah,
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it turns out I'm the one thatwas born over the Indian burial mound
and not the stay s built onit. Yeah you figured that out,
Yep, that was it. Infact, Mark said at six twenty five,
I remember show started at seven.He said we'll be having tech tech
issues tonight. And then and thenall of a sudden, I did so.
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Thanks a lot of Although pretty goodgenerally, right, I mean pretty
good tonight. I feel pretty goodabout this, just a little echo so
far, and what's not fun aboutthat? Come on, listen, it's
a voice of God stuff. Yeahright, I told you good, So
listen. Here's the deal on this. If we had seen today's Biden yesterday,
it'd be a different story. Andeven in the clip you just heard,
you also heard him kind of clearhis throat and call right. He
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said he had a cold. Theytalked about that last night. He tested
for COVID. No COVID, that'sgreat, But for whatever reason last night,
his voice was shaky, it wasraspy. It wasn't there the whole
time. When he first came out, it was like he was trying to
clear his throat but he couldn't.And it just I felt for the man.
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I felt like it was not there. This idea of replacing him,
though. You know one person who'sactually worried about replacing him, Nicky Haley.
Nicky Haley says, look out,mark my words, Biden will not
be the Democratic nominee. Republicans,get your guard up. She says,
I don't know if he's going tobe the nominee or not, but I
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can tell you this. David Axelrodsays replacing Biden would be a very bad
idea. Cut for go ahead.I just want to say one thing,
yeah, especially to you two guys. If for whatever reason, there's a
change at the top of the ticket, you guys are in trouble with Donald
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Trump because the guy who was upthere tonight is not a guy who's going
to inspire people. Is He didnot show in any way that he has
changed from the guy who people don'thave a very positive opinion for a lot
of good reasons. So it soundslike Axelrod is calling for Biden to be
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replaced, and he's warning the Republicans. I just don't know that that's such
a great idea, because what itdoes is it starts to show a party
in disarray. If you guys didn'tthink Biden was with it, why have
you been telling us all along thathe was right, All of a sudden,
you erode trust with the American people, and that is in jeopardy right
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now. If we see more ofwhat we saw from Biden today at the
rally, he's going to be fine. We'll chalk it up as a one
off, had a bad night,whatever it was. But if we see
more stumbles along the way, Ithink this is not only going to hurt
the presidential race, but it willcrush the engagement and motivation of the base,
and that could mean a lower turnoutof the polls for down ballot races
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and propositions. There's a lot ofstake this time around, a lot,
so making the right movement now isimperative. And if that means you've got
to give the man be twelve shotsand hop him up on five hour energy,
get to Costco and pick up acase of it, get him going.
All right. As much as we'vebeen talking about the presidential debate that
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CNN had and it came in secondin their own ratings, there were things
going on this week that are actuallya much bigger deal and we'll have a
much longer lasting impact, and yetthey don't get even half the coverage.
That's next you're listening to Later withMoe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six
forty. In the weekend, theyare saying the busiest travel weekend so far
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this year because we've got the fourthof July and in the middle of the
week. That means this weekend andnext weekend, and many people are taking
the next week off. Help meamong them, I am really looking forward
to Little R and R. Infact, I was sending Mark pictures.
I'm going back to my hometown,and I call it the Malibu the Midwest.
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It's just beautiful in the summertime,winter time, it's cool. It's
northern Michigan and it is an absolutedelight. However, getting there puts you
right through the middle of some realredneck maga country. Now I'm not saying
listen, we're Trump supporters. I'mtalking like the crazies. And I sent
Mark pictures and it was like theFJBS, the upside down flags, the
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it was pretty insane. Mark,I wasn't look pretty festive. Actually,
I wasn't exaggerating when I said thereare some there are some people out there
that are a little different, andyou just you don't see that anywhere else.
I mean, it's it's like wwehits politics. It's wild. But
once you get through that, man, I love it. And I'm not
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even a post having a nice politicalconversation. But these are not the kind
of people that like to converse.They like to tell you how it's done.
I wish I could go with you, oh man, I would love
to take you there. Are youkidding me. I would take you.
I would take you to all theplaces we like to show off and and
then I take it to hidden places, and I would access your inner redneck.
I knew you grow and you grewup in kind of a rural area
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too, right, I wouldn't sayrural. I grew up in Spokane,
Washington, which is on the easternside of Washington State, the sophisticated side.
The western side is where Seattle is, and that's where I worked for
quite a number of years before Icame here. Okay, Spokane's nice though,
but yeah, I guess if youwere if you grew up in town,
then yeah, you're not rural.So I grew up in a rural
area. And so just to justto let you know, my wife is
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going to pick me up at theairport. She's there right now, and
my father is going to watch ourdog for the night at their place.
My parents are a little bit older, and so they said they would dog
sit for us. My father hasasked, this tells you where we are.
My father has asked if he canpop by and drop off his new
four wheel drive truck and take myold four wheel drive truck with the dog
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in it so he doesn't get hisnice new pickup dirty. And by new,
it's a twenty seventeen, So justheads up, we're just swapping out
four by force. I think that'sheartwarming. Listen. I love my parents,
I love going home, And ifhe wants to drive my beat up
old Ford, he's happy. I'mhappy to let him do it. I'm
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excited to let him do it.I get a little bit giddy this time
of year because whether I agree ordisagree, I love Supreme Court opinion week.
I love it when the opinions comeout, you realize how much of
an impact this actually has on ourlives. Look, whatever a president does
for four years, what's good stays, what's bad. The next president can
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try to undo, or the nextCongress or whatever else it is. It's
part of the deliberation process over along period of time. And I know
some of you are going to disagreewith, well, wow, yeah but
FDR screwed everything up, or yeahbut Reagan ruined everything with trickle down economics,
whatever your opinion is, whatever,I love the Supreme Court decisions.
Although this Court is far more likelyto overturn previous decisions than courts we've seen
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in the past. They don't havethe same deference to precedent that we've seen
in the past. Roe v.Wade. And then another one as well
that came down called they basically backedoff on the Chevron decision, which gives
places federal agencies like the EPA orwhomever. That's just one agency, and
that's the one that came up inquestion. They give them the authority to
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make rules if there aren't laws inplace, and basically the court said,
no, I don't really get todo that. And if anybody doesn't like
your rules and they should have ajury trial. It's a little strange and
it could have some implications, butit sounds so in the weeds, right,
like legally boring. If we onlyhad forty eight million people watch the
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debate, which is the political event, I should say the election is the
political event. Every four years.It's it's like the Olympics. I can't
wait for the next big presidential election. It is the major event in politics.
The debate is as close as youcan get to a scrimmage or preseason
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or if you want to call ita wild card playoff game, fine,
whatever. Only forty eight million peoplewere interested. So if we have another
how many people voted last year inone hundred and sixty five, one hundred
and seventy million people voted in twentytwenty, one hundred and eighty whatever,
it was not even a third ofthe number of people who are going to
vote. Watch that debate. Howmany of them? How many people do
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you think are actually paying attention towhat the Supreme Court is saying? If
you don't even get a third ofthe people who who are going to watch
the Super Bowl to pay attention tothe teams before the big game? Using
my analogy, how many are watchingwhat's going on with the referees behind the
scenes, like nobody. But thisis really the importance stuff. This is
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the stuff that is going to affectyou and I a whole lot more directly,
Robin, let's go to a cutfive here. It's a bit of
a rundown of what the Supreme Courthas come up with this time. The
Supreme Court has handed down a numberof decisions today, significant ones at that
the High Court rule to allow Idahohospitals to provide emergency abortions, overturning a
total ban on the procedure. Theopinion is similar to a draft that was
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leaked yesterday. The Court also blockeda six billion dollar settlement with oxyconto maker
Purdue Pharma that would have shielded thecompany's owners from civil lawsuits. The Securities
and Exchange Commission has been stripped ofa major enforcement tool. The justices ruled
that people accused of fraud by theSEC have a right to a jury trial
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in federal court. They say inhouse SEC proceedings that were previously used in
civil fraud complaints violate the Constitution.And the Supreme Court is also putting the
Environmental Protection Agency's air pollution fighting planon hold. The justices voted life to
four to reject arguments by the Bidenadministration that the plan was saving lives.
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This rule is intended to restrict smokestack emissions from power plants and other industrial
sources. All right, So youget the point. There's a lot of
these decisions, Like, you maysee more smoke from the smoke stacks.
You may see more federal courts gettingbogged down with jury trials every time somebody
doesn't like something the SEC does.And it may be harder for the SEC
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to enforce some of these anti fraudmeasures. If every time they do,
they're gonna have to expend resources totry to run things through the courts.
But for the Supreme Court, they'reprotecting rights of individuals from I guess if
you want to argue a tyrannical government, listen, government ain't cheap. It
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just isn't. Sometimes people use thatfact in order to try to enrich themselves.
We still haven't heard about some ofthese other rulings, and the Supreme
Court says there are still more decisionsto come down. We thought we were
gonna get them all this week.Sounds like we're gonna get some next week
now as well, which is excitingto geeks like me, and as I
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pointed out before, not enough otherpeople. Tragic. All right, it's
time to go back to school,but there are going to be some changes,
like the teachers hate being there.I'll tell you why next. You're
listening to Later with Moe Kelly ondemand from KFI AM sixty. Oh.
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Is there any nightmare worse than whenyou're back in school? You ever have
that dream back in school? Maybeyou're you didn't get your test done,
maybe you missing an exam, maybeyou showed up to the let your hold
naked. There's nothing worse than schooldreams. Really, I swear to you.
When was the last time you everhad a good school dream? Oh?
I wish I were back in school. Nobody wants them. Teachers are
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as excited as students to be outfor the summer, judging by the results
of a state of the Amya TeacherSurvey which was released earlier this month.
According to RAND, that is thenonpartisan, nonprofit who if I recall correctly,
Mark correct me if I'm wrong.Wasn't Rand the company that had the
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Pentagon papers written they were stolen?You got me on that one. I
don't know the answer. I hopeI'm not wrong on that, because then
I'm gonna feel like a real tool. Probably need to go back to school
if that's the case. So anyway, RAND found that teachers feel like all
three points of pain are about twicethe rate of compatible working adults, age
bachelor's degree and at least a thirtyfive hour workweek. Roughly three times as
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many teachers report a difficulty coping withthe work related stress. So teachers who
are in that age range are workingat least thirty five hours a week and
have a bachelor's degree, they havemore stress than other people in that age
range working a full time job witha bachelor's degree, So big a teacher
is well, it ain't easy.Teachers attribute the majority of their stress to
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managing student behavior, administrative work outsideof teaching, and low salaries. Base
pay about seventy grand compared with eightyeight thousand dollars for similar working counterparts,
which prompts a thirty six percent ofteachers to consider their base pay adequate as
compared to fifty one percent of otherworking adults. In other words, if
you are working age, have abachelor's degree and a full time job,
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there's a fifty to fifty chance youfeel like you're being paid okey. For
teachers, there's a two what athree chance you feel like you are not
being compensated correctly. Very frustrating consideringthat the many hours are required, with
teachers reporting working nine hours a weekmore than similar working adults for an average
of fifty three hours per work week. So for everyone that says you have
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the good sommers off, I wantyou to think about this. Throughout the
ENTI higher school year. They're puttingin thirteen hours of work per week,
which is an average of nine morethan most other people. And remember we're
supposed to be working forty hours aweek. And I know a lot of
people, Well, they get toschool at seven, they leave at three.
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That's eight hours, but they're getto lunch in there. They're not
working that much now. They arebecause they stick around afterward, or they
get there early, or they're correctingthings on the weekend. The fourth annual
Rand State of the Teacher Survey nationally. It's a nationally representative annual survey of
K through twelve public school teachers acrossthe US. It's supported by the American
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Federation of Teachers in the National EducationAssociation, and they presented their findings in
a companion survey of other working adults. So being a teacher ain't easy.
I don't know of anybody that getsinto teaching because they want to get rich.
I think that when you're a teachcure you should be paid a median
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income. I know it sounds silly, and you go, well, it's
pretty close. Yeah, but yougotta have a bouncer's degree. I mean,
if you've got a four year education, shouldn't you be above the median.
I'm not saying you need to payteachers a quarter million dollars, but
shouldn't you be above the median?I just I've always been a proponent of
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teachers, and there's going to come. I'm sure there's a tipping point.
I mean, if all of asudden, all teachers start making one hundred
and fifty grand, then I'm goingto say, wait a minute, why
were paying teachers so much? ButI always feel like teachers have a really
tough job, and I want tobe very supportive of the teachers. I
really want to be supportive of theseteachers because I think things are about to
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get ugly in Oklahoma. Did yousee what they did? This is got
to be unconstitutional. Although the SupremeCourt has ruled that more religion in school
is okay, and we know thatthey're going to be challenged with the Oklahoma
law. The Oklahoma laws that allclassrooms have to display the Ten Commandments.
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They didn't specify if that was theCatholic Ten Commandments of the Protestant Ten Commandments.
They have to have the Ten Commandments. Now, Oklahoma state Superintendent is
requiring public schools to teach the Bible, saying it is a necessary historical document.
Mandate comes as part of a conservativemovement to infuse Christian values in public
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schools, and of course it happensin Oklahoma. The state superintendent directed all
public schools to teach the Bible,including the Ten Commandments, in an extraordinary
move that blurs the lines between religiousinstruction and public education. I want you
to keep something else in mind.In Oklahoma, there's a very large indigenous
population, which means that you aren'tgoing to be going into schools that are
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predominantly populated by Indigenous students and teachingthem about the historical documents of the religion
of the people that many of viewas the colonizers that made life crappy.
That means you're gonna have a lotof parents that are not going to be
pleased. Not only are you gonnahave parents that are gonna be in some
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of the larger cities, and bylarger cities, I mean the two Tulsa
and Oklahoma City. But suppose you'vegot parents of Jewish kids and they're like,
why do you have to teach mykids the New Testament? And they're
gonna go it's a historical document,And you're gonna have atheist parents that are
going, why are you Remember Oklahomais the state that had the Monument of
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the Constant the Ten Commandments outside theirstate house, and that became a big
issue. You're gonna have parents going, why are you teaching my kids the
Bible? I don't want to teachI don't I don't want them learning this
religion. I'm okay with them learningabout it in a religious class that teaches
about Christianity, Islam, Judaism,whatever it is. That's fine, that's
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informative. But if you are teachingthe Bible that's Sundays, we have a
place for that. You will havethis challenged in the courts. The questioning
is what will the Supreme Court say? Now, A lot of this comes
on the heels of the case outof the state of Washington, where there
was the coach that was praying withthe players and some players felt like they
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had to pray with the coach ifthey wanted playing time. The Supreme Court
said, yeah, they have anoption, they don't have to do it.
Louisiana is taking that interpretation. They'resaying, well, we put up
the Ten Commandments, but they don'thave to look at them. Is Oklahoma
going to say, yeah, wehave, we mandate that the Bible be
taught, but you don't have totake the class. I'm not so sure,
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especially when the idea is that America'sdemocracy needs to be grounded in Christian
values, which is what the peopleof Oklahoma are saying. Not so sure
this one's gonna fly. I thinkeven a very conservative Supreme Court may say,
uh, that feels an awful lotlike somebody's tax dollars are going to
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pay to teach a particular religion.That feels a lot like an endorsement,
which I believe First Amendment says no. All right, teachers not getting paid
enough. Right, But if you'regoing to work, you might think I've
got my bachelor's degree. I'm readyto go. Hold that thought for just
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a moment, or as Lee Corsoused to say, not so fast,
my friend. Why your degree isn'ta isn't worth as much as this is
next you're listening to Later with MoeKelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
All Right, you went to collegeand you think, oh, this
is great. I can go tocollege. I'm gonna have I'm gonna make
more money than anybody else ever,And this is gonna be my life is
set well come to find out,you know what, Maybe not so much,
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according to Society sociology professor at DukesCollege, helps, but widespread employment
practices that keeps salary information hidden playeda larger role for the students interviewed into
the study. Respective employers in ajob market frequently high key information like salary
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range and a detailed job description,which would help graduating students decide which jobs
to apply for. That information isnot often provided until a job offer is
made. In other words, doyou want the job, you're qualified for
it, Let's go through the interviewprocess. You've come in, We've done
the phone and interview, we've broughtyou into the house in house, and
now we think you might be agood fit. Do you want the job?
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And you go, well, Imean what does it pay? And
they go, oh, it'll paysomewhere in this range. Listen, if
I knew you were going to lowballme to start with, I would have
saved us both. Sometimes oftentimes whatends up happening, though, is that
we end up with a bit ofan emotional connection to the place where we're
interviewing, and we go, man, I hope we get this job.
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I hope we get the job.I hope we get the job. This
job was with a com but I'vealways wanted to work for this job look
great in my resume, whatever itmight be. And then you end up
taking a lot less than you're worth, even if you're fresh out of college.
You end up taking less than you'reworth. And of course your parents
are old school and they say,oh yeah, but you're going to pay
your dues, and it's important thatyou should work for less because you're getting
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so much valuable workplace experience. Ihave this argument with my parents all the
time where they talk about my kids. You know, they look at their
grandkids and they say, oh,you should just whatever the employer wants,
you should give it to him.And I tell my kids, I go
listen. You should get what youthink you're worth. And if you think
that the experience of working in aparticular company is worth it, then great,
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do it. If you don't keeplooking, I'll give you an example.
My oldest son, he doesn't workfor him anymore, but my oldest
son was very excited he got ajob with Tesla. No, he listened.
He he's an IT guy now andhe's working with cybersecurity stuff now,
but that wasn't what he was doingback then. Back then, he was
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basically in the auto industry, andthey call it a porter. He was
washing cars, he was vacuuming demos, this sort of thing. Right.
He was at one of the theTesla I guess they call hi showrooms,
right, it's not a it's nota dealership with the showroom. So that's
what he was doing, and theywere paying him bump kiss. I mean,
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he was young, he had justdone his his his boot camp and
he was in the Marine Reserves,and he was he had been working at
a gas station or something at thetime, and so he was all excited
that he got to work for Tesla. He's like, I'm working for Tesla.
I'm with Tesla. And he lovedthe prestige of having Tesla on his
resume. But after a while,the prestige of Tesla wore off because he
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felt like he wasn't making enough money. He thought he was working really hard
and he wasn't making anything, andso I said, is it still worth
it? I said, I lovethat you're there. The part of his
compensation with stock option, so hetook advantage of that which was great sold
him before Tesla blew up, buthe sold him so it was an exciting
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time for him. But was itworth it in the end? Nah.
He was young. He was excitedabout the name, but he didn't realize
that the money just wasn't there.So one of the things that students say
is they don't know about the moneyuntil after the job offer is made.
This is one of those situations whereand I know what I'm about to say
is going to be divisive. Someof you are going to cheer me on,
if some of you are going tohate me. But this is one
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of the reasons that I think unionsare very valuable. It's also one of
the reasons that unions are despised bythe business friendly right, because they level
a playing field and if you're abusiness person, it feels like you're having
your leverage taken away. Well,listen, we've always done it this way
and it's always worked out really well, and our margins are good. Yeah,
but the people aren't really being paidwith their worth, and so the
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union knows what they're worth, andso the union negotiats and yeah, but
now we're going to pay him.I mean, it would you'd be like
the teacher who once turned a blindeye to the kids that use notes on
the test. Some of us wouldhave called that cheating. They said,
I'm not cheating, I'm referencing.And suppose the teacher said, okay,
you know what, I've noticed thatsome of you are using notes. If
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I wasn't clear before, if you'retrying to game the system, you may
not use notes on the exam.And some of the kids that were using
notes with the basically the book copiedout of their phones, they started,
well, that's not fair. We'vealways done it this way, right.
That's not to say things can't tipthe other way when it comes to the
unions, and all of a sudden, you feel like the unions are taking
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advantage of the companies and it endsup being more difficult for the companies.
That certainly happens, we have examplesof that in American history. But when
the companies are being let's just saykoy about the the pay, or they're
not really negotiating in good faith onthe value of the position, that's not
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fair either, not at all.If you do get that job that you
want, you do get that greatjob, you're all excited about it,
and you've been working from home fora while, but now you've got to
go into the office. There's achance you picked up some bad habits along
the way. So the Washington Postwithout an article that is supposed to give
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us an idea. Now the newwork etiquette. If you can't spot the
jerk, it might be you.If you're doing these things at work,
you're the problem. Some of thesethings, by the way, are generational
gossiping. They say you should gossipmore, but you have to do it
the right way. They say it'sa useful tool for navigating the modern workplace.
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Use gossip and private conversations to shareyour salaries with coworkers and find out
if you're being underpaid. My parentswould never have done that. Never.
I don't even I don't like talkingabout They say, use it to vent
about issues that you're having. Ifyour company isn't turmoil. Gossip is a
way to keep up in the latestdrama. But avoid talking about people's private
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lives behind their backs. Don't engagein personal attacks, and know when to
keep a secret. Don't be ameeting tyrant, they say, never send
a meeting invitation without context or schedulea meeting with when someone is not available.
In other words, you're supposed tobasically have an individual meeting with everybody
before you schedule a meeting with everybody, to make sure that everybody's going to
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be available for the meeting with everybody. Oo, okay, this is okay.
Listen, Washington Post, you're kindof making me crazy. They say
you're annoying your coworkers with your keyboardand your voice. You need to stop
hammering on your keyboard mark. Theysay, yeah, it's you share information
in the right places. Ask peoplehow they like to receive information. This
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one kind of makes me crazy.I feel like good managers start to figure
this out. But ask people howthey like to receive information. Some people
still shockingly for email, you meanshockingly. Some like Slack or teams,
while others want that face to face, whether it's in person or via video
chat. Wherever you're responding to orcommunicating with your colleagues, make sure it's
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one they check. In other words, you have to make sure they like
it. Yeah, but what ifit's one that I don't use? See
the problem Catch twenty two, Likewhen my wife sends me TikTok videos,
I don't like to talk. I'mnot gonna see your videos, but that's
the way I like to communicate.Well, you fail up next. There's
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no business like Robin. I'm gonalet you do it tonight, all right,
there's no business like I think she'sasleep on the job. You're not
gonna get it, job leaves no. Wow, I would demand my money
back if I were you. Andthe thing is, Robin knows because I
work with her on the weekends.Rob and should be right on top of
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that. She just doesn't care.Wow. Why why? Alright, it's
too late now, noone knows nowthat really you listen, I'm hurt right
now. All right, there's noshow business like business. That's yeah,
that's nice. Nope, too late, you're dead to me. You've been
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K f I A M sixty you'relistening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
on the iHeartRadio app debate and wohe was concerned. This friend of mine
is a Democratic consultant. Let's justsay consultant. He's been an economist this
whole life. And uh, heis sending me all sorts of feedback about
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this debate. What happens, what'swhat the future is going to be?
Uh, and he is concerned.He says, listen, this is a
This has become a circular firing squadwithin the Democratic parties. They're all pointing,
and they're saying, oh my gosh, we're toast. We got to
get Joe Biden out of there.This is this is so bad. That
debate performance was the exact opposite ofeverything that we needed. This is a
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this is a bad story. Anotherfriend of mine, again on the left
side of the aisle, says,talking to a psychiatrist at dinner tonight.
Now save your jokes, says prettygrim. It's all over unless there's a
new nominee. They're not alone.The New York Times editorial board headline,
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to serve his country, President Bidenshould leave the race, says Donald Trump
has proved himself to be a significantjeopardy to the democracy and a ratic and
self interested figure worthy of the publicunworthy, excuse me of the public trust.
They go on to say, Bidensaid that he's the candidate with the
best chance of taking on this threatof tyranny and defeating it. His argument
rests largely on the fact that hebeat Trump last time. That is no
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longer a sufficient rationale for why misterBiden should be the Democratic nominee of this
year. As of the debate,the President needed to convince American people he
was equal to the formidable demands ofthe office that he is seeking to hold
for another term. Voters cannot beexpected to ignore what was instead plain to
see. Mister Biden is not theman he was four years ago. That
from the Gray Lady from the DailyBeast headline opinion, Jill Biden must step
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up now to help oust her husband. They make the case that he's not
going anywhere unless Jill Biden says she'son board. And yet Jill Biden was
asked specifically about this Robin you wantto play cut two there. This is
what Jill Biden had to say,Joe, you did such a great job.
You answered every question. You knowall that. Let me ask the
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crowd, what did Trump do?Yes? Yes, lie, yes.
I always love it when there's acall and response from the crowd and they
most of them get it right,but it just ends up coming out like
what did he do? And they'relike he roh, And she's like,
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that's right, lie, very good. That's a teacher right there. Good
job, class, good job.What about Biden? A lot of people
saying he should step aside, butwhat does he say? If you saw
his rally this morning, it wasa different guy than what we saw last
night. So, Biden, howdid you do? Cut three? Biden?
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How to go? I don't walkas easy as I used to.
I don't speak as smooth as Iused to debate as well as I used
to. But I know what Ido know. I know how to tell
the truth. I know, Iknow, I know right from Rome,
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and I know how to do thisjob. I know how to get things
done. I know, like theminutes of Americas know when you get knocked
down, you get back up.I know what it took to take our
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economy in the depths of pandemic iswhere it is today, the strongest economy
in the world. I know it'lltake to bring this economy to everybody.
I don't take to rally the worldto stand up against Putin and defend free,
to not yield to him, andI know take to keep the world
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safe and free for the years ahead. Folks, I give you my words,
a Biden. I would not berunning again if I didn't believe with
all my heart and soul I cando this job. Because quite factory,
all right. So there you go. Even when you're listening to that,
there are moments that he starts asentence and isn't exactly sure, but he
comes up with the words. We'recoming up with the words last night.
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The energy today was different, thegrasp of the words were different. And
listen, I talk for a living. I gotta tell you I got good
days and bad days. It's true. There's days that for some reason.
In fact, I've gotten off theair before my wife says how's the show?
And my wife gets angry with mebecause I'm very hard on myself.
(05:14):
So she's like, how's the showon? I was terrible, and she
said, don't say that. Ilike when you say that, Yeah,
it was terrible, and so she'salways surprised when I feel like I have
a good show. That was theshow, and she expects me to go.
Yeah. So sometimes I'll feel likeI had a really good shoes,
how's the show, and I feelreally good of it. I feel really
good about that. Oftentimes, theshows I feel good about the shows where
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I'm able to find the words,the vocabulary I'm seeking comes to me.
The days where I feel like I'mstumbling in the blocks are the days that
I feel that was not good atall. That or I have technical difficulties,
and Mark's been around for most ofthose. In fact, I think
Mark might be the crap magnet whenit comes to my technical difficulties. Yeah,
(05:58):
it turns out I'm the one thatwas born over the Indian burial mound
and not the stay s built onit. Yeah you figured that out,
Yep, that was it. Infact, Mark said at six twenty five,
I remember show started at seven.He said we'll be having tech tech
issues tonight. And then and thenall of a sudden, I did so.
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Thanks a lot of Although pretty goodgenerally, right, I mean pretty
good tonight. I feel pretty goodabout this, just a little echo so
far, and what's not fun aboutthat? Come on, listen, it's
a voice of God stuff. Yeahright, I told you good, So
listen. Here's the deal on this. If we had seen today's Biden yesterday,
it'd be a different story. Andeven in the clip you just heard,
you also heard him kind of clearhis throat and call right. He
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said he had a cold. Theytalked about that last night. He tested
for COVID. No COVID, that'sgreat, But for whatever reason last night,
his voice was shaky, it wasraspy. It wasn't there the whole
time. When he first came out, it was like he was trying to
clear his throat but he couldn't.And it just I felt for the man.
(07:00):
I felt like it was not there. This idea of replacing him,
though. You know one person who'sactually worried about replacing him, Nicky Haley.
Nicky Haley says, look out,mark my words, Biden will not
be the Democratic nominee. Republicans,get your guard up. She says,
I don't know if he's going tobe the nominee or not, but I
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can tell you this. David Axelrodsays replacing Biden would be a very bad
idea. Cut for go ahead.I just want to say one thing,
yeah, especially to you two guys. If for whatever reason, there's a
change at the top of the ticket, you guys are in trouble with Donald
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Trump because the guy who was upthere tonight is not a guy who's going
to inspire people. Is He didnot show in any way that he has
changed from the guy who people don'thave a very positive opinion for a lot
of good reasons. So it soundslike Axelrod is calling for Biden to be
(08:03):
replaced, and he's warning the Republicans. I just don't know that that's such
a great idea, because what itdoes is it starts to show a party
in disarray. If you guys didn'tthink Biden was with it, why have
you been telling us all along thathe was right, All of a sudden,
you erode trust with the American people, and that is in jeopardy right
(08:24):
now. If we see more ofwhat we saw from Biden today at the
rally, he's going to be fine. We'll chalk it up as a one
off, had a bad night,whatever it was. But if we see
more stumbles along the way, Ithink this is not only going to hurt
the presidential race, but it willcrush the engagement and motivation of the base,
and that could mean a lower turnoutof the polls for down ballot races
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and propositions. There's a lot ofstake this time around, a lot,
so making the right movement now isimperative. And if that means you've got
to give the man be twelve shotsand hop him up on five hour energy,
get to Costco and pick up acase of it, get him going.
All right. As much as we'vebeen talking about the presidential debate that
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CNN had and it came in secondin their own ratings, there were things
going on this week that are actuallya much bigger deal and we'll have a
much longer lasting impact, and yetthey don't get even half the coverage.
That's next you're listening to Later withMoe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six
forty. In the weekend, theyare saying the busiest travel weekend so far
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this year because we've got the fourthof July and in the middle of the
week. That means this weekend andnext weekend, and many people are taking
the next week off. Help meamong them, I am really looking forward
to Little R and R. Infact, I was sending Mark pictures.
I'm going back to my hometown,and I call it the Malibu the Midwest.
(10:00):
It's just beautiful in the summertime,winter time, it's cool. It's
northern Michigan and it is an absolutedelight. However, getting there puts you
right through the middle of some realredneck maga country. Now I'm not saying
listen, we're Trump supporters. I'mtalking like the crazies. And I sent
Mark pictures and it was like theFJBS, the upside down flags, the
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it was pretty insane. Mark,I wasn't look pretty festive. Actually,
I wasn't exaggerating when I said thereare some there are some people out there
that are a little different, andyou just you don't see that anywhere else.
I mean, it's it's like wwehits politics. It's wild. But
once you get through that, man, I love it. And I'm not
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even a post having a nice politicalconversation. But these are not the kind
of people that like to converse.They like to tell you how it's done.
I wish I could go with you, oh man, I would love
to take you there. Are youkidding me. I would take you.
I would take you to all theplaces we like to show off and and
then I take it to hidden places, and I would access your inner redneck.
I knew you grow and you grewup in kind of a rural area
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too, right, I wouldn't sayrural. I grew up in Spokane,
Washington, which is on the easternside of Washington State, the sophisticated side.
The western side is where Seattle is, and that's where I worked for
quite a number of years before Icame here. Okay, Spokane's nice though,
but yeah, I guess if youwere if you grew up in town,
then yeah, you're not rural.So I grew up in a rural
area. And so just to justto let you know, my wife is
(11:31):
going to pick me up at theairport. She's there right now, and
my father is going to watch ourdog for the night at their place.
My parents are a little bit older, and so they said they would dog
sit for us. My father hasasked, this tells you where we are.
My father has asked if he canpop by and drop off his new
four wheel drive truck and take myold four wheel drive truck with the dog
(11:54):
in it so he doesn't get hisnice new pickup dirty. And by new,
it's a twenty seventeen, So justheads up, we're just swapping out
four by force. I think that'sheartwarming. Listen. I love my parents,
I love going home, And ifhe wants to drive my beat up
old Ford, he's happy. I'mhappy to let him do it. I'm
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excited to let him do it.I get a little bit giddy this time
of year because whether I agree ordisagree, I love Supreme Court opinion week.
I love it when the opinions comeout, you realize how much of
an impact this actually has on ourlives. Look, whatever a president does
for four years, what's good stays, what's bad. The next president can
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try to undo, or the nextCongress or whatever else it is. It's
part of the deliberation process over along period of time. And I know
some of you are going to disagreewith, well, wow, yeah but
FDR screwed everything up, or yeahbut Reagan ruined everything with trickle down economics,
whatever your opinion is, whatever,I love the Supreme Court decisions.
Although this Court is far more likelyto overturn previous decisions than courts we've seen
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in the past. They don't havethe same deference to precedent that we've seen
in the past. Roe v.Wade. And then another one as well
that came down called they basically backedoff on the Chevron decision, which gives
places federal agencies like the EPA orwhomever. That's just one agency, and
that's the one that came up inquestion. They give them the authority to
(13:24):
make rules if there aren't laws inplace, and basically the court said,
no, I don't really get todo that. And if anybody doesn't like
your rules and they should have ajury trial. It's a little strange and
it could have some implications, butit sounds so in the weeds, right,
like legally boring. If we onlyhad forty eight million people watch the
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debate, which is the political event, I should say the election is the
political event. Every four years.It's it's like the Olympics. I can't
wait for the next big presidential election. It is the major event in politics.
The debate is as close as youcan get to a scrimmage or preseason
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or if you want to call ita wild card playoff game, fine,
whatever. Only forty eight million peoplewere interested. So if we have another
how many people voted last year inone hundred and sixty five, one hundred
and seventy million people voted in twentytwenty, one hundred and eighty whatever,
it was not even a third ofthe number of people who are going to
vote. Watch that debate. Howmany of them? How many people do
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you think are actually paying attention towhat the Supreme Court is saying? If
you don't even get a third ofthe people who who are going to watch
the Super Bowl to pay attention tothe teams before the big game? Using
my analogy, how many are watchingwhat's going on with the referees behind the
scenes, like nobody. But thisis really the importance stuff. This is
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the stuff that is going to affectyou and I a whole lot more directly,
Robin, let's go to a cutfive here. It's a bit of
a rundown of what the Supreme Courthas come up with this time. The
Supreme Court has handed down a numberof decisions today, significant ones at that
the High Court rule to allow Idahohospitals to provide emergency abortions, overturning a
total ban on the procedure. Theopinion is similar to a draft that was
(15:22):
leaked yesterday. The Court also blockeda six billion dollar settlement with oxyconto maker
Purdue Pharma that would have shielded thecompany's owners from civil lawsuits. The Securities
and Exchange Commission has been stripped ofa major enforcement tool. The justices ruled
that people accused of fraud by theSEC have a right to a jury trial
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in federal court. They say inhouse SEC proceedings that were previously used in
civil fraud complaints violate the Constitution.And the Supreme Court is also putting the
Environmental Protection Agency's air pollution fighting planon hold. The justices voted life to
four to reject arguments by the Bidenadministration that the plan was saving lives.
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This rule is intended to restrict smokestack emissions from power plants and other industrial
sources. All right, So youget the point. There's a lot of
these decisions, Like, you maysee more smoke from the smoke stacks.
You may see more federal courts gettingbogged down with jury trials every time somebody
doesn't like something the SEC does.And it may be harder for the SEC
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to enforce some of these anti fraudmeasures. If every time they do,
they're gonna have to expend resources totry to run things through the courts.
But for the Supreme Court, they'reprotecting rights of individuals from I guess if
you want to argue a tyrannical government, listen, government ain't cheap. It
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just isn't. Sometimes people use thatfact in order to try to enrich themselves.
We still haven't heard about some ofthese other rulings, and the Supreme
Court says there are still more decisionsto come down. We thought we were
gonna get them all this week.Sounds like we're gonna get some next week
now as well, which is excitingto geeks like me, and as I
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pointed out before, not enough otherpeople. Tragic. All right, it's
time to go back to school,but there are going to be some changes,
like the teachers hate being there.I'll tell you why next. You're
listening to Later with Moe Kelly ondemand from KFI AM sixty. Oh.
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Is there any nightmare worse than whenyou're back in school? You ever have
that dream back in school? Maybeyou're you didn't get your test done,
maybe you missing an exam, maybeyou showed up to the let your hold
naked. There's nothing worse than schooldreams. Really, I swear to you.
When was the last time you everhad a good school dream? Oh?
I wish I were back in school. Nobody wants them. Teachers are
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as excited as students to be outfor the summer, judging by the results
of a state of the Amya TeacherSurvey which was released earlier this month.
According to RAND, that is thenonpartisan, nonprofit who if I recall correctly,
Mark correct me if I'm wrong.Wasn't Rand the company that had the
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Pentagon papers written they were stolen?You got me on that one. I
don't know the answer. I hopeI'm not wrong on that, because then
I'm gonna feel like a real tool. Probably need to go back to school
if that's the case. So anyway, RAND found that teachers feel like all
three points of pain are about twicethe rate of compatible working adults, age
bachelor's degree and at least a thirtyfive hour workweek. Roughly three times as
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many teachers report a difficulty coping withthe work related stress. So teachers who
are in that age range are workingat least thirty five hours a week and
have a bachelor's degree, they havemore stress than other people in that age
range working a full time job witha bachelor's degree, So big a teacher
is well, it ain't easy.Teachers attribute the majority of their stress to
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managing student behavior, administrative work outsideof teaching, and low salaries. Base
pay about seventy grand compared with eightyeight thousand dollars for similar working counterparts,
which prompts a thirty six percent ofteachers to consider their base pay adequate as
compared to fifty one percent of otherworking adults. In other words, if
you are working age, have abachelor's degree and a full time job,
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there's a fifty to fifty chance youfeel like you're being paid okey. For
teachers, there's a two what athree chance you feel like you are not
being compensated correctly. Very frustrating consideringthat the many hours are required, with
teachers reporting working nine hours a weekmore than similar working adults for an average
of fifty three hours per work week. So for everyone that says you have
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the good sommers off, I wantyou to think about this. Throughout the
ENTI higher school year. They're puttingin thirteen hours of work per week,
which is an average of nine morethan most other people. And remember we're
supposed to be working forty hours aweek. And I know a lot of
people, Well, they get toschool at seven, they leave at three.
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That's eight hours, but they're getto lunch in there. They're not
working that much now. They arebecause they stick around afterward, or they
get there early, or they're correctingthings on the weekend. The fourth annual
Rand State of the Teacher Survey nationally. It's a nationally representative annual survey of
K through twelve public school teachers acrossthe US. It's supported by the American
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Federation of Teachers in the National EducationAssociation, and they presented their findings in
a companion survey of other working adults. So being a teacher ain't easy.
I don't know of anybody that getsinto teaching because they want to get rich.
I think that when you're a teachcure you should be paid a median
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income. I know it sounds silly, and you go, well, it's
pretty close. Yeah, but yougotta have a bouncer's degree. I mean,
if you've got a four year education, shouldn't you be above the median.
I'm not saying you need to payteachers a quarter million dollars, but
shouldn't you be above the median?I just I've always been a proponent of
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teachers, and there's going to come. I'm sure there's a tipping point.
I mean, if all of asudden, all teachers start making one hundred
and fifty grand, then I'm goingto say, wait a minute, why
were paying teachers so much? ButI always feel like teachers have a really
tough job, and I want tobe very supportive of the teachers. I
really want to be supportive of theseteachers because I think things are about to
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get ugly in Oklahoma. Did yousee what they did? This is got
to be unconstitutional. Although the SupremeCourt has ruled that more religion in school
is okay, and we know thatthey're going to be challenged with the Oklahoma
law. The Oklahoma laws that allclassrooms have to display the Ten Commandments.
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They didn't specify if that was theCatholic Ten Commandments of the Protestant Ten Commandments.
They have to have the Ten Commandments. Now, Oklahoma state Superintendent is
requiring public schools to teach the Bible, saying it is a necessary historical document.
Mandate comes as part of a conservativemovement to infuse Christian values in public
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schools, and of course it happensin Oklahoma. The state superintendent directed all
public schools to teach the Bible,including the Ten Commandments, in an extraordinary
move that blurs the lines between religiousinstruction and public education. I want you
to keep something else in mind.In Oklahoma, there's a very large indigenous
population, which means that you aren'tgoing to be going into schools that are
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predominantly populated by Indigenous students and teachingthem about the historical documents of the religion
of the people that many of viewas the colonizers that made life crappy.
That means you're gonna have a lotof parents that are not going to be
pleased. Not only are you gonnahave parents that are gonna be in some
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of the larger cities, and bylarger cities, I mean the two Tulsa
and Oklahoma City. But suppose you'vegot parents of Jewish kids and they're like,
why do you have to teach mykids the New Testament? And they're
gonna go it's a historical document,And you're gonna have atheist parents that are
going, why are you Remember Oklahomais the state that had the Monument of
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the Constant the Ten Commandments outside theirstate house, and that became a big
issue. You're gonna have parents going, why are you teaching my kids the
Bible? I don't want to teachI don't I don't want them learning this
religion. I'm okay with them learningabout it in a religious class that teaches
about Christianity, Islam, Judaism,whatever it is. That's fine, that's
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informative. But if you are teachingthe Bible that's Sundays, we have a
place for that. You will havethis challenged in the courts. The questioning
is what will the Supreme Court say? Now, A lot of this comes
on the heels of the case outof the state of Washington, where there
was the coach that was praying withthe players and some players felt like they
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had to pray with the coach ifthey wanted playing time. The Supreme Court
said, yeah, they have anoption, they don't have to do it.
Louisiana is taking that interpretation. They'resaying, well, we put up
the Ten Commandments, but they don'thave to look at them. Is Oklahoma
going to say, yeah, wehave, we mandate that the Bible be
taught, but you don't have totake the class. I'm not so sure,
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especially when the idea is that America'sdemocracy needs to be grounded in Christian
values, which is what the peopleof Oklahoma are saying. Not so sure
this one's gonna fly. I thinkeven a very conservative Supreme Court may say,
uh, that feels an awful lotlike somebody's tax dollars are going to
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pay to teach a particular religion.That feels a lot like an endorsement,
which I believe First Amendment says no. All right, teachers not getting paid
enough. Right, But if you'regoing to work, you might think I've
got my bachelor's degree. I'm readyto go. Hold that thought for just
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a moment, or as Lee Corsoused to say, not so fast,
my friend. Why your degree isn'ta isn't worth as much as this is
next you're listening to Later with MoeKelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
All Right, you went to collegeand you think, oh, this
is great. I can go tocollege. I'm gonna have I'm gonna make
more money than anybody else ever,And this is gonna be my life is
set well come to find out,you know what, Maybe not so much,
(25:49):
according to Society sociology professor at DukesCollege, helps, but widespread employment
practices that keeps salary information hidden playeda larger role for the students interviewed into
the study. Respective employers in ajob market frequently high key information like salary
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range and a detailed job description,which would help graduating students decide which jobs
to apply for. That information isnot often provided until a job offer is
made. In other words, doyou want the job, you're qualified for
it, Let's go through the interviewprocess. You've come in, We've done
the phone and interview, we've broughtyou into the house in house, and
now we think you might be agood fit. Do you want the job?
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And you go, well, Imean what does it pay? And
they go, oh, it'll paysomewhere in this range. Listen, if
I knew you were going to lowballme to start with, I would have
saved us both. Sometimes oftentimes whatends up happening, though, is that
we end up with a bit ofan emotional connection to the place where we're
interviewing, and we go, man, I hope we get this job.
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I hope we get the job.I hope we get the job. This
job was with a com but I'vealways wanted to work for this job look
great in my resume, whatever itmight be. And then you end up
taking a lot less than you're worth, even if you're fresh out of college.
You end up taking less than you'reworth. And of course your parents
are old school and they say,oh yeah, but you're going to pay
your dues, and it's important thatyou should work for less because you're getting
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so much valuable workplace experience. Ihave this argument with my parents all the
time where they talk about my kids. You know, they look at their
grandkids and they say, oh,you should just whatever the employer wants,
you should give it to him.And I tell my kids, I go
listen. You should get what youthink you're worth. And if you think
that the experience of working in aparticular company is worth it, then great,
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do it. If you don't keeplooking, I'll give you an example.
My oldest son, he doesn't workfor him anymore, but my oldest
son was very excited he got ajob with Tesla. No, he listened.
He he's an IT guy now andhe's working with cybersecurity stuff now,
but that wasn't what he was doingback then. Back then, he was
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basically in the auto industry, andthey call it a porter. He was
washing cars, he was vacuuming demos, this sort of thing. Right.
He was at one of the theTesla I guess they call hi showrooms,
right, it's not a it's nota dealership with the showroom. So that's
what he was doing, and theywere paying him bump kiss. I mean,
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he was young, he had justdone his his his boot camp and
he was in the Marine Reserves,and he was he had been working at
a gas station or something at thetime, and so he was all excited
that he got to work for Tesla. He's like, I'm working for Tesla.
I'm with Tesla. And he lovedthe prestige of having Tesla on his
resume. But after a while,the prestige of Tesla wore off because he
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felt like he wasn't making enough money. He thought he was working really hard
and he wasn't making anything, andso I said, is it still worth
it? I said, I lovethat you're there. The part of his
compensation with stock option, so hetook advantage of that which was great sold
him before Tesla blew up, buthe sold him so it was an exciting
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time for him. But was itworth it in the end? Nah.
He was young. He was excitedabout the name, but he didn't realize
that the money just wasn't there.So one of the things that students say
is they don't know about the moneyuntil after the job offer is made.
This is one of those situations whereand I know what I'm about to say
is going to be divisive. Someof you are going to cheer me on,
if some of you are going tohate me. But this is one
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of the reasons that I think unionsare very valuable. It's also one of
the reasons that unions are despised bythe business friendly right, because they level
a playing field and if you're abusiness person, it feels like you're having
your leverage taken away. Well,listen, we've always done it this way
and it's always worked out really well, and our margins are good. Yeah,
but the people aren't really being paidwith their worth, and so the
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union knows what they're worth, andso the union negotiats and yeah, but
now we're going to pay him.I mean, it would you'd be like
the teacher who once turned a blindeye to the kids that use notes on
the test. Some of us wouldhave called that cheating. They said,
I'm not cheating, I'm referencing.And suppose the teacher said, okay,
you know what, I've noticed thatsome of you are using notes. If
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I wasn't clear before, if you'retrying to game the system, you may
not use notes on the exam.And some of the kids that were using
notes with the basically the book copiedout of their phones, they started,
well, that's not fair. We'vealways done it this way, right.
That's not to say things can't tipthe other way when it comes to the
unions, and all of a sudden, you feel like the unions are taking
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advantage of the companies and it endsup being more difficult for the companies.
That certainly happens, we have examplesof that in American history. But when
the companies are being let's just saykoy about the the pay, or they're
not really negotiating in good faith onthe value of the position, that's not
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fair either, not at all.If you do get that job that you
want, you do get that greatjob, you're all excited about it,
and you've been working from home fora while, but now you've got to
go into the office. There's achance you picked up some bad habits along
the way. So the Washington Postwithout an article that is supposed to give
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us an idea. Now the newwork etiquette. If you can't spot the
jerk, it might be you.If you're doing these things at work,
you're the problem. Some of thesethings, by the way, are generational
gossiping. They say you should gossipmore, but you have to do it
the right way. They say it'sa useful tool for navigating the modern workplace.
(31:42):
Use gossip and private conversations to shareyour salaries with coworkers and find out
if you're being underpaid. My parentswould never have done that. Never.
I don't even I don't like talkingabout They say, use it to vent
about issues that you're having. Ifyour company isn't turmoil. Gossip is a
way to keep up in the latestdrama. But avoid talking about people's private
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lives behind their backs. Don't engagein personal attacks, and know when to
keep a secret. Don't be ameeting tyrant, they say, never send
a meeting invitation without context or schedulea meeting with when someone is not available.
In other words, you're supposed tobasically have an individual meeting with everybody
before you schedule a meeting with everybody, to make sure that everybody's going to
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be available for the meeting with everybody. Oo, okay, this is okay.
Listen, Washington Post, you're kindof making me crazy. They say
you're annoying your coworkers with your keyboardand your voice. You need to stop
hammering on your keyboard mark. Theysay, yeah, it's you share information
in the right places. Ask peoplehow they like to receive information. This
(32:49):
one kind of makes me crazy.I feel like good managers start to figure
this out. But ask people howthey like to receive information. Some people
still shockingly for email, you meanshockingly. Some like Slack or teams,
while others want that face to face, whether it's in person or via video
chat. Wherever you're responding to orcommunicating with your colleagues, make sure it's
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one they check. In other words, you have to make sure they like
it. Yeah, but what ifit's one that I don't use? See
the problem Catch twenty two, Likewhen my wife sends me TikTok videos,
I don't like to talk. I'mnot gonna see your videos, but that's
the way I like to communicate.Well, you fail up next. There's
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no business like Robin. I'm gonalet you do it tonight, all right,
there's no business like I think she'sasleep on the job. You're not
gonna get it, job leaves no. Wow, I would demand my money
back if I were you. Andthe thing is, Robin knows because I
work with her on the weekends.Rob and should be right on top of
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that. She just doesn't care.Wow. Why why? Alright, it's
too late now, noone knows nowthat really you listen, I'm hurt right
now. All right, there's noshow business like business. That's yeah,
that's nice. Nope, too late, you're dead to me. You've been
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