July 4, 2024 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on California’s proposed safety regulations for AI companies AND the failing of LAUSD’s A.I. platform…PLUS – A look at the Democratic Parties crisis management approach to President Biden’s poor performance in the July 27th debate against former President Trump - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty just
which you know. We are watchingthe breaking news of the Democratic governors who
visited the White House today. Thereare some conflicting reports as to how sturdy
the support is for President Biden,whether President Biden may step aside, or
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whether he will continue on with hiscampaign, getting different analysis on what happened
in that meeting and what President Bidenwill do, or whether there will be
some sort of succession plan as CNNis reporting at this point, which is
taking shape. So we're monitoring thatand if any news should break, we
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will bring that to you as ithappens. Here Locally, in California,
we have an ongoing conversation about AI, how it's going to change your life.
My life are professional lives, nomatter what, even if you're retired,
you're going to have to come togrips with AI being a central component
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in your life. The state ofCalifornia is trying to get out in front
of that, and lawmakers are consideringsafety what they're calling safety regulations for AI
companies, and as you might imagine, the tech companies are saying no,
no, no, no, you'renot going to limit what we're going to
do. Legislators are planning to voteTuesday on a first of its kind bill
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which aims to reduce risks created byAI. Tech companies don't want to do
it, but the feeling is thatif you were to require artificial intelligence companies
to test their systems and add safetymeasures, they then wouldn't be able to
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wipe out the state's electric grid,or harm infrastructure, or do things beyond
our human control. In other words, they're trying to prevent the creation of
Skynet. Not trying to be funny, but that's basically what we're talking about.
Oh and did you see and thisis a related thing, and it's
related to pop culture. Remember howin the movie The Terminator, it came
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out in nineteen eighty four, KyleReese said to Sarah Connor that the Terminator
and sky Net were about forty yearsaway. I'm not like a math major
or anything, but the year istwenty twenty four and the Terminator was nineteen
eighty four, right on draft.Yes, I'm not saying, but I'm
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just saying. I mean, we'rethere, you know, elon must Tesla
about now they're saying they we'll beable to babysit your kids within the next
like year and a half, twoyears, And who would want that without
setting them on fire? But whowould want that? I barely trust humans.
The fact that they're trying to dothat, that's problematic. But again,
this is one of those conversations,and I intellectually understand that they're is
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no avoiding AI and how it's goingto i'll say, permeate, infiltrate every
facet of our lives. And wetalked about this with autonomous vehicles. I
get all of that. It doesn'tmean that I have to be cool with
all of it either. You know, the self driving cars, Yes,
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they're going to be coming, They'regoing to be here. I'm not comfortable
with them as they are right now, but I know it's inevitable, and
with AI board generally, it isinevitable. When you're driving home right now,
or you're driving to some unknown location, you put in your GPS,
your Google Maps, your Apple masswhatever that location and you're looking at the
traffic. That's all AI. Yes, AI with the help of a satellite,
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but that's AI. We are usingit in ways that we don't even
think about it. We're using it. Look when you open up social media
and you have all these AI algorithmswhich are sending you ads and sending you
news and trying to direct you ina certain way of read this, look
at that. By this, that'sall AI. Or when you're searching for
something on the computer, you starttyping just a few words and it brings
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up the single thing that you're lookingfor. That's a yeah, without you
asking you type in Sunday, bringup everything that you look already looking for.
Yeah, because it's looking at yourhistory and it's predicting what you're also
looking for. Look like, ifyou were to get on Mark's computer,
it's probably a lot of porn references. Probably, But I think Mark fears
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the robot overlords and what they aregoing to do to it. Oh he
does, he does. I'm againstit. You got to remember that for
normal people, they get almost nothingout of this AI wave that's being pushed
on us. Nothing. And ontop of that, we get our electrical
grids taxed to the limit by them. The amount of power it takes to
run these AIS that normal people don'twant or need is staggering Mark. When
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the robots start feeding a soiling greenand they will on the menu, and
they will still on the menu,sir yep, I expect that, Yeah
to serve man. Yeah, it'sa cookbook. Yes, it's Later with
mo Kelly. Just want to keepyou in the know. We are watching
breaking news CNN. The chirn saysDEM lawmaker tell CNN it's over for Biden's
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campaign. The White House is stilltowing the party line, saying his campaign
absolutely not, He's absolutely not consideringstepping down. Somewhere in between, it's
probably the truth. If it shouldbe revealed tonight during the show, we'll
let you know, and if there'sany subsequent press conference connected to it,
we'll obviously have that for you livekf I AM six forty. We're live
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everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You'relistening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty. Lastsegment, I was saying how AI is
going to permeate all of our lives. It does not matter how old you
are or how young you are.And last segment we talked about how AI
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or I should say the State ofCalifornia was trying to get out in front
and provide legal protections to protect ourinfrastructure in the event that AI go sky
net and does something to harm theinfrastructure of California. But on a more
personal level and definitely a local level. You may remember if you don't back
in about April or so, wetalked about how AI was coming specifically to
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la USD, and how this AIplatform named ED was being rolled out for
about about a half a million studentsin la USD. The way it was
presented in typed chats, ED woulddirect students toward academic and mental health resources,
could tell parents whether their children hadattended class that day, provide their
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latest test scores. ED would evenbe able to detect and respond to emotions
such as hostility, happiness, andsadness. That's weird, that's real weird.
But that was the pitch, andI expressed my reservations. I even
asked Tuala, as someone who wasworking for a school under the umbrella,
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if you will of LAUSD, howwell that might be received, whether people
would lean into it. Obviously,we had the same opinion that this was
the first step to replacing counselors,administrators, possibly teachers. As AI became
more and more involved in the educationprocess, well, that may happen still,
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but as far as ED is concernedin LAUSD, it didn't turn out
too well. The company behind EDis going out of business. And Anthony
Aguilar, the chief of Special Educationfor LAUST said that all Here, that's
the company behind ED, his havingfinancial troubles and is collapsing and going out
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of business. And Anthony Aguilar said, despite the collapse of all Here,
a truncated version of ED made accessibleto families in the district's one hundred priority
schools. Tula, I defer toyou on this because there was already a
computerized aspect to informing parents that theirkid was or was not in class.
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I guess scheduling to a small degree, but this didn't catch on at all.
Now it didn't catch on, butthis is just because this was a
early beta testing of a program.And I can already tell I can already
read into this how this is acompany that was promising the world but did
not have the infrastructure in place,and LAUSD bought into a hook line and
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sinker because of what it promised todo. There are many programs that come
out that they try to introduce twoschools that you know, this all here.
They're not new by any measure,they are just the first ones to
try to come with this. Allthis did is open up the lanes for
a yet another company to say,hey, hey, don't throw away the
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back end. We have something thatwe can build on top of this.
But trust and believe this is alreadygoing to happen. This was strange to
me because this was really being heavilypromoted by the Superintendent Cavallo. And when
I saw that the superintendent was promotinga private company purposefully, it felt odd
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and weird. And ED was supposedto be tested with students age fourteen and
over, but it was taken offline to refine how it answered questions because
yeah, I'm sure it was gettingall sorts of questions and it didn't have
all of the algorithms and the dataprompts in there to effectively address all the
needs and queries. The goal wasfor the chatbot was to be available in
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September, and that was a challengegiven that all here, the name of
the company behind ED was supposed toprovide ongoing technical support and training to school
staff. That's according to the Itdidn't turn out that way, and the
idea for the software had originated withthe district is part of Kavalo's plan to
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help students recover from the academic andemotional effects of the pandemic. But it
seemed like it was too much,too fast, too soon. I agree
with the idea of recovering from thepandemic. There were a lot of kids
who lost a lot of learning andaptitude and time because of the pandemic.
I'd never understood how this was goingto help with that. I understand full
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full well how this rolled out becauseI have been in those meetings with these
companies, these tech companies that comein to play and they sell you a
dream. They sell you this programthat we have will help to streamline all
of your processes, all your procedures, track all your data, all of
your services everything. I have beenin these meetings and these individuals are selling
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the world we have gotten so farwith certain programs, to the point where
I spent almost a last summer tryingto transfer over our data into a new
program, only for us to getto like almost the finish line, for
them to succumb and say, oh, oh, we're sorry, it actually
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can't do that, and we're like, wait, what oh, no,
no, it can't do that either, but that's what you sold this song.
Oh but but we can do thisthat and then and then they start
backtracking because the thing is is thesales person they don't actually know the tech.
Now, they don't sell you theproduct, and they sell you the
product. Then when you get intoit, and after you've signed on to
this trial deal and you're working outwith the Kings, that is when the
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tech people start going, oh,no, it actually can't do that.
But you don't know that until you'vemade the mistake of sending out a memo
to all of your staff, Hey, everyone want to start doing this.
And that's what happened to Anthony Carball. I understand full well what happened.
He was sold by the salesperson.This is someone who's selling hard. Their
life depends on this, but itdidn't work because they don't know the tech
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and sometimes the first in the dooris the first one to get the sale.
Yes, but looking forward, Ithink it's fair to assume that there
will be another product that they willcome in, promise something similar, promise
something more, maybe even deliver more. But the takeaway is AI is not
going anywhere. It'll be some othercompany. It will be some other organization
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and be some other program which willdo what ED promised it would do but
couldn't deliver on. Oh absolutely,this is not a failure by l a
U s D. L a USDis trying to move into this direction.
There was a point in time wheneverything was kept on paper, everything was
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on hard copy. Now damn therenothing is on hard copy. Parents don't
get hard copies of anything. Everythingis on an app that you download and
you follow and you get reports from. This is a new era, and
this is what LAUSD is trying todo. They're trying to minimize all of
the But I get that just likeput it in terms of healthcare. I
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get the need for the digital recordkeeping of all of this data and information.
But ED was talking about something theprogram ED was offering something more where
it would help recommend classes and readinglists and telling students what they're doing,
and informing parents about when their studentschildren were not in class. That was
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that was a step above and beyond, and it mimicked, if you will,
and an actual person who would bedoing those things calling and saying,
hey, Johnny was not in classtoday. And also by the way,
let's recommend that he reads grapes ofWrath all the summer. Oh yeah,
that that, if ed would haveworked, it would have been life changing
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for the district. That is whyI know for a fact the next program
is literally on the way. Well, Mark Ronner, you okay with that?
I'm against all of it, allof it, all of it,
not even if it helps young peoplelearn. I actually wasn't listening. I'm
just you're listening to Later with MoeKelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
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We are continuing to monitor the eventsin Washington. It doesn't seem as
if there's going to be any impendingdecision, but there was a consequential meeting
today at the White House between Democraticgovernors from around the country, about twenty
of them and the White House,the administration, President Biden and also Vice
President Kamala Harris. Regarding the futureof the Biden campaign, the question,
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obviously is whether President Biden would stepaside in a campaign sense. Some reports
are about stepping down. No,he's not stepping down regardless. This is
about whether he would step aside andlet someone else be the top of the
ticket for the Democratic Party. Thereare conflicting reports about the president's level of
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support within the Democratic Party. CNNhas been reporting various lawmakers have publicly expressed
their reticence to continue to support hiscandidacy and whether the President should step aside
now while there's enough time to atleast support a different candidate. I didn't
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get a chance to talk about thedebate or anything because I was literally on
the way back from Korea the dayof the debate, so I wasn't even
really checked in in that way.But I did get to talk about some
of these issues on BBC for acommentary I did with BBC Radio last night.
And here's what people I think arenot recognizing about this particular moment,
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especially if you're wondering, well,why is it the Democrats just won't put
someone else in, Well, thereare other considerations to be made also.
For example, President Biden fund raisedon one hundred and twenty seven million dollars
in a month of June. Youjust can't transfer that to anyone. It's
pledged to particular politicians, for PresidentBiden and Vice President Kamala Harris. If
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you take Joe Biden off the ticket, or is to presume nominee and you
also take off Kamala Harris. Youcannot just give that one hundred and twenty
seven million dollars to let's say,Gavin Newsom hypothetically or anyone else. You
would still need at least Kamala Harristo be part of that ticket for that
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one hundred and twenty seven million dollarsto still be viable and usable for whatever
that ticket is going to be.That's the first thing. And I know
people are saying, like, well, Joe Biden, he really hasn't utilized
Kamala Harris, and people are worriedabout whether she's ready for the job and
so forth, so they should picksomeone else. Okay, let's go down
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that road. If you, asJoe Biden, picked someone else at the
top of the ticket, like aGavin Newsom or Repete Buddha Judge, you
would then be cratering and destroying thecore base of the Democratic Party. You'd
be pissing them off to no endif you would leap frog someone else over
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Kamala Harris, and you would losethat African American support in places like Georgia.
Talking about these swing states, thesestates which helped decide the twenty twenty
election in Wisconsin, for example,and even in Arizona, you would fracture
the Democratic coalition. So that's anotherconsideration and discussion which is being had right
now. If it's not going tobe Kamala Harris, she would probably have
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to come out publicly and say thatI don't want the job or something in
so many words, to let theDemocratic base know that they're not just you
know, tossing her to the side, even though they would be tossing her
to the side. See, that'sthe consideration. You got to make sure
it's not just changing the person.Got to make sure you still have the
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money, to make sure that youstill have the same level of support.
The Democrats are in a position wherethey have to choose the best bad option.
It's a bad option to have JoeBiden remain as the top of the
ticket. Here's why. The debateis one thing. And I know all
the spin about it was just abad night, or he just had a
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cold, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yah
yeah, But here's the truth.You're asking people to look beyond the debate
and also ignore the question of it'snot whether he can be president right now.
On July third, it's about whetherhe could be president January of twenty
twenty nine, the end of asupposed second term, as four and a
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half years from now. And let'ssay Joe Biden is one hundred percent hypothetically
he's one hundred percent. Anybody who'sone hundred percent at eighty one probably is
not one hundred percent at eighty six. And there's not enough evidence for me
personally. I'm not diagnosing from adistance. I can look at video from
twenty twenty and I can look atvideo from twenty twenty four as far as
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the presidential debates and know that that'snot the same dude, not the same
dude, just not. So.The question then becomes for Democratic voters,
which is different from the Democratic Party, is can you sell the idea of
Joe Biden being president in twenty twentynine? That is one heavy lift,
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and you're not also only selling itto Democrats. You're trying to sell it
to never trumpers, you're trying tosell it to independence, and you're trying
to sell it to moderates. Youneed everybody if you expect to win in
twenty twenty four. That's one ofthe best bad ideas and options there.
Then you have Vice President Kamala Harrison. She has not been well received.
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I think her political star has dimmedfor any number of reasons, mistakes that
she's made, mistakes that the administrationhas made. I didn't understand why they
didn't utilize her more on the campaigntrail and during the administration, if only
because remember Joe Biden said he's atransitional president, and your VP is always
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considered to be the heir apparent always. You don't even have to say it,
that's the understanding. And if you'regoing to be a transitional president Joe
Biden and your vice president is KamalaHarris, you're already saying you're expecting her
to be the next one. Well, they didn't prepare her publicly or seemingly
even privately to be the next.So if you do put her at the
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top of the ticket, you haven'tnecessarily solidified the Democratic base behind her and
conceiving of her as the president.So that's another best of the bad ideas
which are there. Then you haveGavin Newsom, and we know that Gavin
Newsom has been angling for this momentfor the past two years. Basically,
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you know, the debate to thequasi debate against Ron Desantus for what for
why? For who? All ofthis this legislation that he has been signing,
which is basically virtue signaling to Democratsand Democrats nationally that he's on this.
He's very progressive. That's about becausehe wants to run at some point,
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if not twenty twenty eight, hey, twenty twenty four. But he
puts on the public face that hesupports everything that Joe Biden does. He's
one of the biggest surrogates. Infact, he dropped his own competing prop
forty seven bill I say, sohe can go on the road and be
a surrogate for Joe Biden, whowas in Philadelphia and Washington, d C.
Today extolling the virtues of the Bidenpresidency, not only further developing his
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national profile, but seeming as ifhe's the biggest cheerleader for Joe Biden.
So if they were to put GavinNewsom at the top of the ticket slot,
it is less I would say disruptive. People are already familiar with him,
he already has a national profile,and Democrats, I'm not talking about
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Republicans, I'm not talking about independence, I'm saying Democrats really like Gavin Newsom
by and large, he's young enough, he has a look. So these
are things which Democrats are considering asthe way forward. These are the things
they have to worry about so theydon't completely blow up their own constituency and
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coalition. Because the worst thing forDemocrats is is not that they wouldn't be
gung ho for a Gavin Newsom onKamala Harris, It's about whether they stay
home. Because if they don't stay, if they don't come out and vote,
then whoever's at the top of theticket, the Democrats lose. It's
just as simple. That's the conversationbeing had the White House today. I
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would bet dollars to donuts all ofthose things. The public message is we
fully support Joe Biden. He's ourguy. We're going to go into November
in the convention next month with him. Nothing has changed. He's great as
ever before. I think he sitsdown with ABC News on Friday, is
going to do an extended interview.The content that interview, I don't know.
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Maybe that message will change because ofwhat has been happening in the past
few days. The bottom line isfor me, it doesn't matter whether Joe
Biden had a bad night during thatfirst debate, because a good debate is
not going to allay fears of hislong term prospects. It's not about whether
Joe Biden can be president on Julythird, twenty twenty four. It's all
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about twenty twenty nine and whether youfeel confident in entrusting him the responsibilities of
leader of the free world. It'sa different world now than when Ronald Reagan
was president. It's a different worldthan when other people were president. You
didn't have the media scrutiny, youdidn't have social media, you didn't have
cameras everywhere. We have cameras detailingevery single angle of what every president does
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when they're in public, and they'rehidden microphones everywhere. And also this there's
what we see and there's what wedon't see. There's what we saw at
the debate. And I say,as a person who's worked on political campaigns,
if your candidate was not ready forthat moment, when you had months
to prepare, and it's something thatyou asked for and you knew it was
it was ultra important to your candidacy, and you did not meet that moment,
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what does that say, what doesthat say? And also sometimes you
don't get two bites of the apple. Sometimes people make their minds up on
you. If you believe that PresidentBiden was diminished, that debate solidified that
in many people's minds. If that'swhat you believe, that validated it,
that verified it. And if youwere on the fence, well you're probably
leading to the side of he's cognitivelydiminished. He can't do the job for
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the next four and a half almostfive years. These are the discussions which
are being had. How it turnsout, I have no idea. We
haven't been at this point in themodern history of the presidency, so who
knows. It's later with mo Kellycan if I am six forty, we're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app whenmo Kelly six live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
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app. And I just want toput a period on what I was talking
about last segment with President Joe Bidenand the controversy surrounding his reelection candidacy.
It was real weird for me becausewhen I was in Korea in the day's
leading up to the debate, mymind was not on US presidential politics and
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Tiffty Hobbs is going to be joiningus at the top of the next segment
for the viral load. I wasgetting ready to tell her, but we
had to come back. But Ican tell it now. I was more
thinking about the politics of North Koreaand South Korea. When we were getting
ready to get on the plane togo to South Korea, there was an
uptick in activity from North Korea,and as we were approaching the seventy fourth
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commemoration of the start of the KoreanWar, there was a concern amongst people
traveling that there may be something whichcould happen. I don't know, a
missile launch or some sort of aggressivemeasure from Kim John Oon which would have
impacted our trip. So I wasmore thinking about the international politics of the
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moment, not what was going onhere in the United States. And I
landed in the morning of the debate. I didn't have a chance to really
get up to speed. So whenI watched it, I'm just kind of
like, watch it. It's like, hey, it was musty TV.
It was an event. It's likeI knew it was going to be happening.
And I was actually asked to dosome post debate commentaries like no,
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I'm not there, I'm not mentallyup to speed yet I did it hit
earlier tonight. You might have seenit all on Spectrum News Channel one,
and I got to talk about someof these things. But it takes a
while to get back in the swingof things. And this is a really,
really weird my word moment in Americanpolitics. And I when I give
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my analysis, I'm the first tosay, Look, I can tell you
about the history and sometimes past thisprologue. But anyone who's telling you they
know what is going to happen islying. Anyone who says I know Trump
is going to win in twenty twentyfour in November, they're lying. If
they say, oh, Biden's goingto take it because of all the problems
with Trump and his legal issues,they're lying. Nobody knows. No one
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knows. All of this is,as they say, unprecedented. You didn't
have a president facing off against aformer president. You didn't have a former
president who's going through legal troubles,who had been sued, has a civil
judgment, two different civil judgment,one for four hundred million, another for
you know, eighty and that's notcounting to thirty four felony convictions. In
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all of this, no one hasany nobody's seen anything like this. None
of this makes any sense. Soto make a prognostication about who is going
to be the next president, youdon't know what you're talking about. You're
talking with your heart, not actuallywith your head. And I always say
in all my commentaries, like,look, this is where we are right
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now, And I said, Iremember I said this three months ago.
There's no guarantee that both of theseguys are going to make it to the
finish line for any number of reasons. I said. Someone could have a
heart attack, someone could have ahealth issue. You know, we remember
Bernie Sanders had a heart attack onthe campaign trail. Neither of these guys.
Obviously, there's spring chickens, andwe see what's happening with Joe Biden
right now. Nobody knows what tomorrowis going to bring. So if you
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want to say with certainty that soand so is going to be either the
nominee or to be our next president, I can't take you. Seriously.
I can't. I can't because you'rejust telling me who you want to win.
There's no way you can know inan electoral college sense, who is
going to win. How these thingsare going to shake out. You know
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they're going to be untold. Iwould say, not consequences, but there's
going to be a pushback against theSupreme Court that decision that. You don't
know how the abortion debate is goingto figure into electoral college politics, because
you can go to a certain stateand there may be an abortion bill that
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is being voted on the same dayas the presidential election that could swing a
state. Nobody knows. And ifwe remember twenty twenty, Georgia was decided
by US I would say a relativelysmall number of votes. Arizona was decided
by a relatively small number of votes. Michigan went for Biden, in twenty
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for Trump and sixteen no one can. You don't know what some two hundred
million people are gonna do or chooseon election day. We don't know if
there's gonna be a difficulty with peoplevoting in certain states, don't We don't
know if there's gonna be weather issues. You know, what if there's a
hurricane in the southern portion of theUnited States, do you every think about
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that it's hurricane season? They're allwhat if there's a tornado, obviously,
what if there's a health issue withone of the candidates. There are so
many unknowns, and the only thingwe know for certain is that whatever's happening
right now is gonna change by nextweek. That's all we know for sure.
How it's gonna change. I don'tknow. You don't know. If
you want to say, hey,Mo, it's twenty twenty twenty four,
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no thumbs up, good for you. You know, go plan a flag
in your yard, put a flagon your truck, on your vote,
and go out there and celebrate Trump. But you have no idea whether that's
actually gonna happen. You're just tellingme that you want it to happen.
And the timber crature say, no, Joe Biden, it's fine, you
know it's gonna be Okay, it'sgonna be Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and
I say, you have no ideawhat you're talking about. You don't know.
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And that is the reality of it. The only thing for certain is
nothing is for certain. I don'tknow that former President Trump is going to
be the Republican nominee. I don'tknow that. And if you want to
be honest, I look at hisbrother's passed, his sister has passed,
and he's not the paragon of healthall that. You know, his health
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and his situation could change literally overnightovernight. And if you've been watching his
rallies, there's some questions there aswell. Joe Biden, that was some
scary stuff during debate. That's because, as far as I'm concerned, Democrats,
you all been lying for the pasttwo years, y'all been lieing,
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And for everything we see, there'sprobably five or six things that we don't
see. If he couldn't meet thatmoment, now's the best he could muster
up because of his cold air quotesand he was jet lagged, he was
tired air quotes on that stage forthose ninety minutes. I'm quite sure that
there are other things that we didn'tsee which were equally concerning. And I
remember commenting when Robert Hurr, thespecial investigator, came out with his report
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and threw some cold water on JoeBiden with his comments about his memory.
I said, mmmm hmm, that'sgoing to come back at a certain point
because he put it in print andcodified what he believed, and now it
validates even more what was in hisreport, But what's going to happen tomorrow?
I have no freaking idea. It'sslated with Mo Kelly ca If.
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which you know. We are watchingthe breaking news of the Democratic governors who
visited the White House today. Thereare some conflicting reports as to how sturdy
the support is for President Biden,whether President Biden may step aside, or
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whether he will continue on with hiscampaign, getting different analysis on what happened
in that meeting and what President Bidenwill do, or whether there will be
some sort of succession plan as CNNis reporting at this point, which is
taking shape. So we're monitoring thatand if any news should break, we
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will bring that to you as ithappens. Here Locally, in California,
we have an ongoing conversation about AI, how it's going to change your life.
My life are professional lives, nomatter what, even if you're retired,
you're going to have to come togrips with AI being a central component
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in your life. The state ofCalifornia is trying to get out in front
of that, and lawmakers are consideringsafety what they're calling safety regulations for AI
companies, and as you might imagine, the tech companies are saying no,
no, no, no, you'renot going to limit what we're going to
do. Legislators are planning to voteTuesday on a first of its kind bill
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which aims to reduce risks created byAI. Tech companies don't want to do
it, but the feeling is thatif you were to require artificial intelligence companies
to test their systems and add safetymeasures, they then wouldn't be able to
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wipe out the state's electric grid,or harm infrastructure, or do things beyond
our human control. In other words, they're trying to prevent the creation of
Skynet. Not trying to be funny, but that's basically what we're talking about.
Oh and did you see and thisis a related thing, and it's
related to pop culture. Remember howin the movie The Terminator, it came
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out in nineteen eighty four, KyleReese said to Sarah Connor that the Terminator
and sky Net were about forty yearsaway. I'm not like a math major
or anything, but the year istwenty twenty four and the Terminator was nineteen
eighty four, right on draft.Yes, I'm not saying, but I'm
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just saying. I mean, we'rethere, you know, elon must Tesla
about now they're saying they we'll beable to babysit your kids within the next
like year and a half, twoyears, And who would want that without
setting them on fire? But whowould want that? I barely trust humans.
The fact that they're trying to dothat, that's problematic. But again,
this is one of those conversations,and I intellectually understand that they're is
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no avoiding AI and how it's goingto i'll say, permeate, infiltrate every
facet of our lives. And wetalked about this with autonomous vehicles. I
get all of that. It doesn'tmean that I have to be cool with
all of it either. You know, the self driving cars, Yes,
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they're going to be coming, They'regoing to be here. I'm not comfortable
with them as they are right now, but I know it's inevitable, and
with AI board generally, it isinevitable. When you're driving home right now,
or you're driving to some unknown location, you put in your GPS,
your Google Maps, your Apple masswhatever that location and you're looking at the
traffic. That's all AI. Yes, AI with the help of a satellite,
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but that's AI. We are usingit in ways that we don't even
think about it. We're using it. Look when you open up social media
and you have all these AI algorithmswhich are sending you ads and sending you
news and trying to direct you ina certain way of read this, look
at that. By this, that'sall AI. Or when you're searching for
something on the computer, you starttyping just a few words and it brings
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up the single thing that you're lookingfor. That's a yeah, without you
asking you type in Sunday, bringup everything that you look already looking for.
Yeah, because it's looking at yourhistory and it's predicting what you're also
looking for. Look like, ifyou were to get on Mark's computer,
it's probably a lot of porn references. Probably, But I think Mark fears
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the robot overlords and what they aregoing to do to it. Oh he
does, he does. I'm againstit. You got to remember that for
normal people, they get almost nothingout of this AI wave that's being pushed
on us. Nothing. And ontop of that, we get our electrical
grids taxed to the limit by them. The amount of power it takes to
run these AIS that normal people don'twant or need is staggering Mark. When
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the robots start feeding a soiling greenand they will on the menu, and
they will still on the menu,sir yep, I expect that, Yeah
to serve man. Yeah, it'sa cookbook. Yes, it's Later with
mo Kelly. Just want to keepyou in the know. We are watching
breaking news CNN. The chirn saysDEM lawmaker tell CNN it's over for Biden's
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campaign. The White House is stilltowing the party line, saying his campaign
absolutely not, He's absolutely not consideringstepping down. Somewhere in between, it's
probably the truth. If it shouldbe revealed tonight during the show, we'll
let you know, and if there'sany subsequent press conference connected to it,
we'll obviously have that for you livekf I AM six forty. We're live
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everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You'relistening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty. Lastsegment, I was saying how AI is
going to permeate all of our lives. It does not matter how old you
are or how young you are.And last segment we talked about how AI
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or I should say the State ofCalifornia was trying to get out in front
and provide legal protections to protect ourinfrastructure in the event that AI go sky
net and does something to harm theinfrastructure of California. But on a more
personal level and definitely a local level. You may remember if you don't back
in about April or so, wetalked about how AI was coming specifically to
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la USD, and how this AIplatform named ED was being rolled out for
about about a half a million studentsin la USD. The way it was
presented in typed chats, ED woulddirect students toward academic and mental health resources,
could tell parents whether their children hadattended class that day, provide their
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latest test scores. ED would evenbe able to detect and respond to emotions
such as hostility, happiness, andsadness. That's weird, that's real weird.
But that was the pitch, andI expressed my reservations. I even
asked Tuala, as someone who wasworking for a school under the umbrella,
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if you will of LAUSD, howwell that might be received, whether people
would lean into it. Obviously,we had the same opinion that this was
the first step to replacing counselors,administrators, possibly teachers. As AI became
more and more involved in the educationprocess, well, that may happen still,
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but as far as ED is concernedin LAUSD, it didn't turn out
too well. The company behind EDis going out of business. And Anthony
Aguilar, the chief of Special Educationfor LAUST said that all Here, that's
the company behind ED, his havingfinancial troubles and is collapsing and going out
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of business. And Anthony Aguilar said, despite the collapse of all Here,
a truncated version of ED made accessibleto families in the district's one hundred priority
schools. Tula, I defer toyou on this because there was already a
computerized aspect to informing parents that theirkid was or was not in class.
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I guess scheduling to a small degree, but this didn't catch on at all.
Now it didn't catch on, butthis is just because this was a
early beta testing of a program.And I can already tell I can already
read into this how this is acompany that was promising the world but did
not have the infrastructure in place,and LAUSD bought into a hook line and
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sinker because of what it promised todo. There are many programs that come
out that they try to introduce twoschools that you know, this all here.
They're not new by any measure,they are just the first ones to
try to come with this. Allthis did is open up the lanes for
a yet another company to say,hey, hey, don't throw away the
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back end. We have something thatwe can build on top of this.
But trust and believe this is alreadygoing to happen. This was strange to
me because this was really being heavilypromoted by the Superintendent Cavallo. And when
I saw that the superintendent was promotinga private company purposefully, it felt odd
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and weird. And ED was supposedto be tested with students age fourteen and
over, but it was taken offline to refine how it answered questions because
yeah, I'm sure it was gettingall sorts of questions and it didn't have
all of the algorithms and the dataprompts in there to effectively address all the
needs and queries. The goal wasfor the chatbot was to be available in
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September, and that was a challengegiven that all here, the name of
the company behind ED was supposed toprovide ongoing technical support and training to school
staff. That's according to the Itdidn't turn out that way, and the
idea for the software had originated withthe district is part of Kavalo's plan to
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help students recover from the academic andemotional effects of the pandemic. But it
seemed like it was too much,too fast, too soon. I agree
with the idea of recovering from thepandemic. There were a lot of kids
who lost a lot of learning andaptitude and time because of the pandemic.
I'd never understood how this was goingto help with that. I understand full
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full well how this rolled out becauseI have been in those meetings with these
companies, these tech companies that comein to play and they sell you a
dream. They sell you this programthat we have will help to streamline all
of your processes, all your procedures, track all your data, all of
your services everything. I have beenin these meetings and these individuals are selling
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the world we have gotten so farwith certain programs, to the point where
I spent almost a last summer tryingto transfer over our data into a new
program, only for us to getto like almost the finish line, for
them to succumb and say, oh, oh, we're sorry, it actually
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can't do that, and we're like, wait, what oh, no,
no, it can't do that either, but that's what you sold this song.
Oh but but we can do thisthat and then and then they start
backtracking because the thing is is thesales person they don't actually know the tech.
Now, they don't sell you theproduct, and they sell you the
product. Then when you get intoit, and after you've signed on to
this trial deal and you're working outwith the Kings, that is when the
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tech people start going, oh,no, it actually can't do that.
But you don't know that until you'vemade the mistake of sending out a memo
to all of your staff, Hey, everyone want to start doing this.
And that's what happened to Anthony Carball. I understand full well what happened.
He was sold by the salesperson.This is someone who's selling hard. Their
life depends on this, but itdidn't work because they don't know the tech
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and sometimes the first in the dooris the first one to get the sale.
Yes, but looking forward, Ithink it's fair to assume that there
will be another product that they willcome in, promise something similar, promise
something more, maybe even deliver more. But the takeaway is AI is not
going anywhere. It'll be some othercompany. It will be some other organization
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and be some other program which willdo what ED promised it would do but
couldn't deliver on. Oh absolutely,this is not a failure by l a
U s D. L a USDis trying to move into this direction.
There was a point in time wheneverything was kept on paper, everything was
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on hard copy. Now damn therenothing is on hard copy. Parents don't
get hard copies of anything. Everythingis on an app that you download and
you follow and you get reports from. This is a new era, and
this is what LAUSD is trying todo. They're trying to minimize all of
the But I get that just likeput it in terms of healthcare. I
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get the need for the digital recordkeeping of all of this data and information.
But ED was talking about something theprogram ED was offering something more where
it would help recommend classes and readinglists and telling students what they're doing,
and informing parents about when their studentschildren were not in class. That was
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that was a step above and beyond, and it mimicked, if you will,
and an actual person who would bedoing those things calling and saying,
hey, Johnny was not in classtoday. And also by the way,
let's recommend that he reads grapes ofWrath all the summer. Oh yeah,
that that, if ed would haveworked, it would have been life changing
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for the district. That is whyI know for a fact the next program
is literally on the way. Well, Mark Ronner, you okay with that?
I'm against all of it, allof it, all of it,
not even if it helps young peoplelearn. I actually wasn't listening. I'm
just you're listening to Later with MoeKelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
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We are continuing to monitor the eventsin Washington. It doesn't seem as
if there's going to be any impendingdecision, but there was a consequential meeting
today at the White House between Democraticgovernors from around the country, about twenty
of them and the White House,the administration, President Biden and also Vice
President Kamala Harris. Regarding the futureof the Biden campaign, the question,
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obviously is whether President Biden would stepaside in a campaign sense. Some reports
are about stepping down. No,he's not stepping down regardless. This is
about whether he would step aside andlet someone else be the top of the
ticket for the Democratic Party. Thereare conflicting reports about the president's level of
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support within the Democratic Party. CNNhas been reporting various lawmakers have publicly expressed
their reticence to continue to support hiscandidacy and whether the President should step aside
now while there's enough time to atleast support a different candidate. I didn't
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get a chance to talk about thedebate or anything because I was literally on
the way back from Korea the dayof the debate, so I wasn't even
really checked in in that way.But I did get to talk about some
of these issues on BBC for acommentary I did with BBC Radio last night.
And here's what people I think arenot recognizing about this particular moment,
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especially if you're wondering, well,why is it the Democrats just won't put
someone else in, Well, thereare other considerations to be made also.
For example, President Biden fund raisedon one hundred and twenty seven million dollars
in a month of June. Youjust can't transfer that to anyone. It's
pledged to particular politicians, for PresidentBiden and Vice President Kamala Harris. If
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you take Joe Biden off the ticket, or is to presume nominee and you
also take off Kamala Harris. Youcannot just give that one hundred and twenty
seven million dollars to let's say,Gavin Newsom hypothetically or anyone else. You
would still need at least Kamala Harristo be part of that ticket for that
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one hundred and twenty seven million dollarsto still be viable and usable for whatever
that ticket is going to be.That's the first thing. And I know
people are saying, like, well, Joe Biden, he really hasn't utilized
Kamala Harris, and people are worriedabout whether she's ready for the job and
so forth, so they should picksomeone else. Okay, let's go down
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that road. If you, asJoe Biden, picked someone else at the
top of the ticket, like aGavin Newsom or Repete Buddha Judge, you
would then be cratering and destroying thecore base of the Democratic Party. You'd
be pissing them off to no endif you would leap frog someone else over
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Kamala Harris, and you would losethat African American support in places like Georgia.
Talking about these swing states, thesestates which helped decide the twenty twenty
election in Wisconsin, for example,and even in Arizona, you would fracture
the Democratic coalition. So that's anotherconsideration and discussion which is being had right
now. If it's not going tobe Kamala Harris, she would probably have
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to come out publicly and say thatI don't want the job or something in
so many words, to let theDemocratic base know that they're not just you
know, tossing her to the side, even though they would be tossing her
to the side. See, that'sthe consideration. You got to make sure
it's not just changing the person.Got to make sure you still have the
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money, to make sure that youstill have the same level of support.
The Democrats are in a position wherethey have to choose the best bad option.
It's a bad option to have JoeBiden remain as the top of the
ticket. Here's why. The debateis one thing. And I know all
the spin about it was just abad night, or he just had a
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cold, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yah
yeah, But here's the truth.You're asking people to look beyond the debate
and also ignore the question of it'snot whether he can be president right now.
On July third, it's about whetherhe could be president January of twenty
twenty nine, the end of asupposed second term, as four and a
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half years from now. And let'ssay Joe Biden is one hundred percent hypothetically
he's one hundred percent. Anybody who'sone hundred percent at eighty one probably is
not one hundred percent at eighty six. And there's not enough evidence for me
personally. I'm not diagnosing from adistance. I can look at video from
twenty twenty and I can look atvideo from twenty twenty four as far as
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the presidential debates and know that that'snot the same dude, not the same
dude, just not. So.The question then becomes for Democratic voters,
which is different from the Democratic Party, is can you sell the idea of
Joe Biden being president in twenty twentynine? That is one heavy lift,
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and you're not also only selling itto Democrats. You're trying to sell it
to never trumpers, you're trying tosell it to independence, and you're trying
to sell it to moderates. Youneed everybody if you expect to win in
twenty twenty four. That's one ofthe best bad ideas and options there.
Then you have Vice President Kamala Harrison. She has not been well received.
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I think her political star has dimmedfor any number of reasons, mistakes that
she's made, mistakes that the administrationhas made. I didn't understand why they
didn't utilize her more on the campaigntrail and during the administration, if only
because remember Joe Biden said he's atransitional president, and your VP is always
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considered to be the heir apparent always. You don't even have to say it,
that's the understanding. And if you'regoing to be a transitional president Joe
Biden and your vice president is KamalaHarris, you're already saying you're expecting her
to be the next one. Well, they didn't prepare her publicly or seemingly
even privately to be the next.So if you do put her at the
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top of the ticket, you haven'tnecessarily solidified the Democratic base behind her and
conceiving of her as the president.So that's another best of the bad ideas
which are there. Then you haveGavin Newsom, and we know that Gavin
Newsom has been angling for this momentfor the past two years. Basically,
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you know, the debate to thequasi debate against Ron Desantus for what for
why? For who? All ofthis this legislation that he has been signing,
which is basically virtue signaling to Democratsand Democrats nationally that he's on this.
He's very progressive. That's about becausehe wants to run at some point,
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if not twenty twenty eight, hey, twenty twenty four. But he
puts on the public face that hesupports everything that Joe Biden does. He's
one of the biggest surrogates. Infact, he dropped his own competing prop
forty seven bill I say, sohe can go on the road and be
a surrogate for Joe Biden, whowas in Philadelphia and Washington, d C.
Today extolling the virtues of the Bidenpresidency, not only further developing his
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national profile, but seeming as ifhe's the biggest cheerleader for Joe Biden.
So if they were to put GavinNewsom at the top of the ticket slot,
it is less I would say disruptive. People are already familiar with him,
he already has a national profile,and Democrats, I'm not talking about
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Republicans, I'm not talking about independence, I'm saying Democrats really like Gavin Newsom
by and large, he's young enough, he has a look. So these
are things which Democrats are considering asthe way forward. These are the things
they have to worry about so theydon't completely blow up their own constituency and
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coalition. Because the worst thing forDemocrats is is not that they wouldn't be
gung ho for a Gavin Newsom onKamala Harris, It's about whether they stay
home. Because if they don't stay, if they don't come out and vote,
then whoever's at the top of theticket, the Democrats lose. It's
just as simple. That's the conversationbeing had the White House today. I
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would bet dollars to donuts all ofthose things. The public message is we
fully support Joe Biden. He's ourguy. We're going to go into November
in the convention next month with him. Nothing has changed. He's great as
ever before. I think he sitsdown with ABC News on Friday, is
going to do an extended interview.The content that interview, I don't know.
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Maybe that message will change because ofwhat has been happening in the past
few days. The bottom line isfor me, it doesn't matter whether Joe
Biden had a bad night during thatfirst debate, because a good debate is
not going to allay fears of hislong term prospects. It's not about whether
Joe Biden can be president on Julythird, twenty twenty four. It's all
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about twenty twenty nine and whether youfeel confident in entrusting him the responsibilities of
leader of the free world. It'sa different world now than when Ronald Reagan
was president. It's a different worldthan when other people were president. You
didn't have the media scrutiny, youdidn't have social media, you didn't have
cameras everywhere. We have cameras detailingevery single angle of what every president does
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when they're in public, and they'rehidden microphones everywhere. And also this there's
what we see and there's what wedon't see. There's what we saw at
the debate. And I say,as a person who's worked on political campaigns,
if your candidate was not ready forthat moment, when you had months
to prepare, and it's something thatyou asked for and you knew it was
it was ultra important to your candidacy, and you did not meet that moment,
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what does that say, what doesthat say? And also sometimes you
don't get two bites of the apple. Sometimes people make their minds up on
you. If you believe that PresidentBiden was diminished, that debate solidified that
in many people's minds. If that'swhat you believe, that validated it,
that verified it. And if youwere on the fence, well you're probably
leading to the side of he's cognitivelydiminished. He can't do the job for
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the next four and a half almostfive years. These are the discussions which
are being had. How it turnsout, I have no idea. We
haven't been at this point in themodern history of the presidency, so who
knows. It's later with mo Kellycan if I am six forty, we're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app whenmo Kelly six live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
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app. And I just want toput a period on what I was talking
about last segment with President Joe Bidenand the controversy surrounding his reelection candidacy.
It was real weird for me becausewhen I was in Korea in the day's
leading up to the debate, mymind was not on US presidential politics and
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Tiffty Hobbs is going to be joiningus at the top of the next segment
for the viral load. I wasgetting ready to tell her, but we
had to come back. But Ican tell it now. I was more
thinking about the politics of North Koreaand South Korea. When we were getting
ready to get on the plane togo to South Korea, there was an
uptick in activity from North Korea,and as we were approaching the seventy fourth
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commemoration of the start of the KoreanWar, there was a concern amongst people
traveling that there may be something whichcould happen. I don't know, a
missile launch or some sort of aggressivemeasure from Kim John Oon which would have
impacted our trip. So I wasmore thinking about the international politics of the
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moment, not what was going onhere in the United States. And I
landed in the morning of the debate. I didn't have a chance to really
get up to speed. So whenI watched it, I'm just kind of
like, watch it. It's like, hey, it was musty TV.
It was an event. It's likeI knew it was going to be happening.
And I was actually asked to dosome post debate commentaries like no,
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I'm not there, I'm not mentallyup to speed yet I did it hit
earlier tonight. You might have seenit all on Spectrum News Channel one,
and I got to talk about someof these things. But it takes a
while to get back in the swingof things. And this is a really,
really weird my word moment in Americanpolitics. And I when I give
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my analysis, I'm the first tosay, Look, I can tell you
about the history and sometimes past thisprologue. But anyone who's telling you they
know what is going to happen islying. Anyone who says I know Trump
is going to win in twenty twentyfour in November, they're lying. If
they say, oh, Biden's goingto take it because of all the problems
with Trump and his legal issues,they're lying. Nobody knows. No one
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knows. All of this is,as they say, unprecedented. You didn't
have a president facing off against aformer president. You didn't have a former
president who's going through legal troubles,who had been sued, has a civil
judgment, two different civil judgment,one for four hundred million, another for
you know, eighty and that's notcounting to thirty four felony convictions. In
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all of this, no one hasany nobody's seen anything like this. None
of this makes any sense. Soto make a prognostication about who is going
to be the next president, youdon't know what you're talking about. You're
talking with your heart, not actuallywith your head. And I always say
in all my commentaries, like,look, this is where we are right
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now, And I said, Iremember I said this three months ago.
There's no guarantee that both of theseguys are going to make it to the
finish line for any number of reasons. I said. Someone could have a
heart attack, someone could have ahealth issue. You know, we remember
Bernie Sanders had a heart attack onthe campaign trail. Neither of these guys.
Obviously, there's spring chickens, andwe see what's happening with Joe Biden
right now. Nobody knows what tomorrowis going to bring. So if you
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want to say with certainty that soand so is going to be either the
nominee or to be our next president, I can't take you. Seriously.
I can't. I can't because you'rejust telling me who you want to win.
There's no way you can know inan electoral college sense, who is
going to win. How these thingsare going to shake out. You know
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they're going to be untold. Iwould say, not consequences, but there's
going to be a pushback against theSupreme Court that decision that. You don't
know how the abortion debate is goingto figure into electoral college politics, because
you can go to a certain stateand there may be an abortion bill that
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is being voted on the same dayas the presidential election that could swing a
state. Nobody knows. And ifwe remember twenty twenty, Georgia was decided
by US I would say a relativelysmall number of votes. Arizona was decided
by a relatively small number of votes. Michigan went for Biden, in twenty
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for Trump and sixteen no one can. You don't know what some two hundred
million people are gonna do or chooseon election day. We don't know if
there's gonna be a difficulty with peoplevoting in certain states, don't We don't
know if there's gonna be weather issues. You know, what if there's a
hurricane in the southern portion of theUnited States, do you every think about
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that it's hurricane season? They're allwhat if there's a tornado, obviously,
what if there's a health issue withone of the candidates. There are so
many unknowns, and the only thingwe know for certain is that whatever's happening
right now is gonna change by nextweek. That's all we know for sure.
How it's gonna change. I don'tknow. You don't know. If
you want to say, hey,Mo, it's twenty twenty twenty four,
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no thumbs up, good for you. You know, go plan a flag
in your yard, put a flagon your truck, on your vote,
and go out there and celebrate Trump. But you have no idea whether that's
actually gonna happen. You're just tellingme that you want it to happen.
And the timber crature say, no, Joe Biden, it's fine, you
know it's gonna be Okay, it'sgonna be Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and
I say, you have no ideawhat you're talking about. You don't know.
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And that is the reality of it. The only thing for certain is
nothing is for certain. I don'tknow that former President Trump is going to
be the Republican nominee. I don'tknow that. And if you want to
be honest, I look at hisbrother's passed, his sister has passed,
and he's not the paragon of healthall that. You know, his health
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and his situation could change literally overnightovernight. And if you've been watching his
rallies, there's some questions there aswell. Joe Biden, that was some
scary stuff during debate. That's because, as far as I'm concerned, Democrats,
you all been lying for the pasttwo years, y'all been lieing,
(31:51):
And for everything we see, there'sprobably five or six things that we don't
see. If he couldn't meet thatmoment, now's the best he could muster
up because of his cold air quotesand he was jet lagged, he was
tired air quotes on that stage forthose ninety minutes. I'm quite sure that
there are other things that we didn'tsee which were equally concerning. And I
remember commenting when Robert Hurr, thespecial investigator, came out with his report
(32:16):
and threw some cold water on JoeBiden with his comments about his memory.
I said, mmmm hmm, that'sgoing to come back at a certain point
because he put it in print andcodified what he believed, and now it
validates even more what was in hisreport, But what's going to happen tomorrow?
I have no freaking idea. It'sslated with Mo Kelly ca If.
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