Newsom’s New Podcast, ‘Flock Safety Cameras’ & ‘The Rahner Report’

ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thought’s on Gavin Newsom’s new podcast with former NFL star running back Marshawn “Beast Mode” Lynch AND the introduction of ‘Flock Safety Cameras’ in California…PLUS - Mark Rahner reviews the new Eddie Murphy Netflix release “Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F” in ‘The Rahner Report’ - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty and
I love discussing politics, not inan advocacy sense, but more as a
dispassionate observer. I love looking atthe campaigns strategy, good moves, mistakes,

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looking at the bigger picture of wherepolitics is going, where campaigning is
going. And I will say thelarger cycle, it's not just about this
election. It's about more broadly,what parties are trying to do with individual
politicians and elected officials are trying todo. And you can notice some trends

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if you're paying attention, let's sayten to fifteen years ago, you would
notice that elected officials, politicians,they would focus all their time and attention
on campaign ads, or they wouldwrite a book. If you notice that
whenever someone's running for president they releasea book, they're going away from that

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now. Or they would do thesesit down interviews with news out that's like
President Biden did tonight is actually airingright now on ABC. You will see
a shift, a larger shift awayfrom all of those traditional methods. Conventional
wisdom is now changing, and aperfect example of it is what Governor Gavin

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Newsom is doing right now. Hejust started a podcast with a football player
and his agent. Doesn't matter.What you think about Gavin Newsom does not
matter. Think about what he's doingand how he's doing it, and know
that he's going to be one ofmany to do it. Ten years ago,

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we weren't talking about people like JoeRogan or Pat McAfee. It was
all about talk radio back then.Relative to politics. Now, you can
have these long form conversations on apodcast and you can develop a following relatively

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quickly, and you can mainline yourmessage to whomever you want, and it's
shareable. As a podcast is,you can have clips and everything. Remember
what I was talking about controlling thenarrative with President Biden. This is how
politicians on both sides of the aisleare going to be moving forward Full Disclosure.

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The podcast is called Politician and itis on iHeart Podcasts. So I
just have to say Full Disclosure isgoing to be on iHeartRadio. But Gavin
Newsom is going to be sitting downwith former NFL running back Marshawn Lynch.
He does a lot of commercials.It can be kind of funny, but

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it will also be with Lynch's agent, Doug Hendrickson, they're clear about the
fact that they are friends. MarshawnLynch and Governor Newsom, they are personal
friends. And if you have beenpaying attention, Newsom has said that he's
been planning to do a show apodcast for more than a year and is

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supposed to debut on the fifteenth ofthis month. And also it gives Newsom
to I'll say pluses. He'll beable to service the top surrogate for Joe
Biden, He'll be able to controlthe messaging as best as he can.
And also he further developed, sayit with me, his national profile.

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Because we all know you haven't Newsom'srunning for president. We don't know if
it's going to be twenty twenty four, but we damn sure know it's going
to be twenty twenty eight. Assure as I'm sitting here. You're going
to just see all sorts of electedofficials, both on a mayoral level and
the gubernatorial level and maybe even thepresidential level at some point where they will

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have their own podcast, because thatway they can have these long we'll think
about it. Every politician loves totalk, and you put them on a
podcast and they get to talk foran hour at a time as opposed to
a two or three minute SoundBite,and you don't have to pay the money
of let's say, a rally,but you can still reach as many people,

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and you can do it as frequentlyas you want, in the way
that we know that certain elected officialsdon't want to sit down for a real
hard hitting interview, but they cando something like this with almost no risk
at all. There's really no downsideto doing it. And in this case
we're just talking about Gavin Newsom.But if you're paying attention, I would

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bet dollars to donuts that everybody andtheir mama will have a podcast by the
next presidential election cycle. Why becausethat is how you can reach people more
readily, easily, cheaply, andthen also you get information on them,
and you can send out emails,you can send out fundraising letters, you

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can do all those things in anon traditional way. But that's how people
communicate. And we talk about thisall the time. Young people are listening
to what podcasts right They're generally notlistening to talk radio. If you are
eighteen to twenty two and listening rightnow, God bless you, thank you,

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so much, but I know thenumbers and the demographics for talk radio
skew a lot older. Now.If you want to talk about podcasts,
yes, they listen to podcasts allday, all night. And in this
instance, when you're pairing the governorwith a very popular football player, you
can see how he's basically doing voteroutreach without calling it voter outreach. You

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don't have to like Governor Gavenussom atall. You don't have to believe anything
he says. I'm just saying,look at what he is doing, and
watch how many other elected officials willalso follow suit because it makes political sense
for him to do this. Howbetter to grow your voting base than to

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meet them right where they are.He could come on KFI, but he's
not. He could come on KFIand reach people that he's already reached before.
But if he does a podcast,he will presumably be reaching people he's
never reached before, and that hasall sorts of a positive I would say

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results for any politician of either politicalparty, and I'm surprised actually more haven't
already done it, because if youstart now, you can develop a real
following. Doesn't mean he's going toget to Joe Rogan level. But if
anything, you have more young peoplewho should possibly turn out to vote,
and not only this election, butsubsequent elections going forward. Just something to

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think about and something to look outfor. You're listening to later with Moe
Kelly on Demand from KFI AM sixty. And I told you when I came
back from South Korea at the startof this week, I loved everything about
the country. I told you,I love the culture, the people,
the treatment, the cleanliness, thelack of homelessness, lack of panhandlers.

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But I also said the amount ofsurveillance was off putting. It was at
some point unnerving. And I talkedabout how there were cameras everywhere, on
top of police cars on freeways,just about every mile marker, and there's
a trade off the surveillance lack ofcrime. Also, you know, freedoms

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that we enjoy here in America thatother countries don't enjoy. Well, when
I saw this story, which hitI think it was KTLA dot com maybe
an hour before I started the show, I said, oh, I got
to talk about this, got totalk about it. Flock cameras are coming
to California, and if you don'tknow. Flock cameras are these camera towers

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which are used basically for surveillance.They've been used by police departments and some
private businesses for quite some time,but they're expanding their use and the California
Highway Patrol announced their recent first everarrests with the aid of a flock safety
camera. And this is something wherethe camera just picked up the license plate

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of the car driving by of thisperson who was suspected in a non fatal
shooting on the Bay Bridge, andthey tracked the person down because of these
cameras. I had a brief discussionwith Phil Schumann, who was in for
Tim Conway Junior tonight during cross talk, and he asked, would these cameras

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bring down the crime? You wouldit alleviate the crime? I said,
I don't know, but I doknow it would increase the likelihood of people
being caught after committing crimes. Idon't know if this works as a deterrent,
because you know, for a numberof reasons, I don't know if
you can change human nature or humanbehavior simply by just threatening them with jail.

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We can get into the whole Georgegast Going discussion, but I think
that's separate and distinct from the largerdiscussion of whether cameras will prevent crime or
inspire people to commit less crime.But these flock cameras would be all around
US various cities, and they arebeing used by police departments. But they've

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been limited, relatively speaking, inthe rollout, and they've been limited as
far as how they would be usedor where they would be used. There's
an ongoing discussion, I think,Mark Ronald, I need you to correct
me if I'm wrong. There's anongoing discussion about facial recognition technology, whether
it's legal or would be used inCalifornia. I don't remember the latest on

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that. Yeah, I don't knowthe latest either. But it's concerning,
don't you think. No, Well, that's what I'm saying. I start
off talking about how just being inSouth Korea, the amount of surveillance was
off putting and disconcerting. You usethe word concerning, that's the same.
Yeah, it is concerning. Yea, Korea doesn't have a Fourth Amendment.
I prefer not to live in atotal surveillance police state, right, But

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that's my point. There is atrade off. There is a tradeoff for
all our complaints about crime. Forall our complaints about homelessness, you know,
there's certain freedoms that we enjoy thatother countries do not. Yeah,
and there are things that are inTV shows that are entertaining but you don't
want in real life. I usedto really love an old spy show called

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Spooks. Also, I know thatm I five all the stuff from their
CCTVs which are everywhere. They couldn'tsolve a case without that. But do
we want that here? Do wewant them every place? Look? Person
of Interest was a fine television show, but but I would rather keep it
on TV or the movie Eagle Eye. There are all sorts of examples when

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you have this type of data collection, imagery, images collection, facial recognition,
all sorts of unintended and maybe evenintended consequences of it. I'm not
comfortable with it, but it's here. It's here, and it's not something
we need to talk about that it'scoming or it's in the future. It's

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actually here and it's going to bemore pervasive with each subsequent year. And
you have to keep in mind thatwhenever there is a technology like that that
can be abused, it's guaranteed tobe abused. It's going it's going to
be abused, and people are finewith the abuse of technology so long as
it doesn't affect them, And thenit's no, no, no, no

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no, I'm making a different point. Yeah, they don't mind law enforcement
abusing people's rights so long as itdoesn't happen to them. If you only
if you only have to worry aboutit happened somewhere else or to someone else,
then you're okay with it. Butthe thing with this is you won't
know if it's happening to you.Yeah. The thing I always do is

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just picture the worst way a newthing can be abused and then just assume
it's happening. Because I'm an optimist. Well yeah, and I'm a cynic,
and I admit that I am definitelya synic. I understand that this
was pretty much inevitable. The morecameras, Internet, social media, we're

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always moving in this direction. Weoutsourced information for quite some time. When
we had a ring devices and useof those videos in conjunction with law enforcement,
I said, oh, I seewhere all this is going. Where
you basically have Batman and Batman begins, where you have what's his name,

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Lewis Fox Lucius Lucius Fox. Yeah, Lucius Fox. And they have all
the cell phones in all of Gotham, and they have a monitoring device where
they can ping any cell phone andfigure out where anyone is and what's on
their phone and the conversation they're havingfor vocal recognition, No, let's think

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it was for the joker. They'retrying to cast a joker, right,
yeah. Yeah, and Dark Knightpoints for bringing up a Batman reference to
a serious real But a lot oftimes movies, if they're not the predicate
for what we do in real life, they kind of predict what will happen
in real life. Oh, theytotally comment on and satirize what's going on.

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And if not, even Batman couldbe trusted with this, you think
normal real world cops can be absolutelynot. Well, I wouldn't trust anyone.
I wouldn't make the distinction just realworld cops. I wouldn't want the
federal government. I would not wanta government official. I wouldn't want anyone
to have this much power over citizenry. Of course not. And so the

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question now is can the brakes bepumped on this at this late date?
And nobody knows, well, whatwould happen usually is they would get these
cameras, they would have some sortof problem with them, someone will sue,
and then it goes from there andyou probably have to have some sort
of Fourth Amendment fight which goes upthe courts, maybe to the Supreme Court,

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and then you can have some sortof ruling of unconstitutionality or something like
that. That's the only way Ithink that we would go in the other
direction. Oh, which fills mewith even more optimism. Well, you
have no idea. Well, Imean that's what happened I think with facial
recognition technology. So I think itruns along a very parallel track of Fourth
Amendment concerns and dystopia. Welcome toour Dystopia. Well, you know,

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you say welcome. I think we'vebeen here a while. I don't think
it's you know, we can't gethere recently. I just think we're more
aware of the things which are happening. Now. Oh, you're right,
it's the dystopian boiling fraud. Nowwe're full boil. Yeah, we're full
boil. It's later with Mo Kellyk IF I am six forty. We're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on

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demand from kf I A M sixforty Nature Pontificate, Pop Culture, ron
and Report with Mark Ronner. OkafI AM six forty is Later with Mo

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Kelly. We're live everywhere on theiHeartRadio app. Now Mark Rotter with the
Runner Report. All right, let'sget into it. Despicable me. I
think four opens this weekend, andit's projected to make enough money to buy
a controlling interest in Tesla and stipulatethat Elon must be skinned and dunked in
iodine every twenty minutes. But I'msaying there is FU money and this is
going to make do what I saymoney, followed by like no Fingerprints money,

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Maxine the third part of the Xand Pearl trilogies out. I'm into
that, but judging my the projectedopening weekend box office of approximately one person's
medical debt, it is of limitedinterest. If I ask Moe and Tawala
if they'd seen either of the firsttwo, I'm not sure I'd want to
bet twenty bucks that they had.So let's talk about Beverly Hills cop axel

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F aka Beverly Hills Cop four.It's new on Netflix. Listen, I'm
not above cheap nostalgia. I justwatched another episode of the FBI and Color
Quinn Martin production this week, andI think the last Indiana Johnes movie was
a lot more enjoyable than it hadany right to be Indiana Jones and the
Tube of Soothing Relief. Also,I just shared an episode of the Amazing

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Crescin with a special guest appearance byPatrick McNee of The Avengers on social media,
and I'll say this, a lotof cold reads on that studio audience.
Damn you, Creskin. So yeah, dip into that well again with
Beverly Hills Cop four. Who caresif Eddie Murphy's playing an action cop at
the age of sixty three or justa cop You made your twenty year pension
in two thousand and four, Buddy, you can open a bar now,

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It's okay, But sure give methe neutron dance and a chase, give
me a lot of funny swearing.Let's go. I'll raise you an episode
of Miami Vice and throwing a phonesex commercial afterward. Remember those from back
then. Don't just think about afantasy tonight. Pick up the phone and
call the fantasy girl. We neverlet you down, and you'll always get

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a different girl and fantasy every timeyou call in the prime and feel that
was that era. I was toocheap to call one of those. What
could they possibly have said to youon the phone that was worth however much
a minute they were charging, Likeyou're so big and your student loans are
so small. Nobody's asking you toadmit anything to Walla anyway. The first

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Beverly Hills Cop was forty years ago. Can you believe that? I remember
my grandmother buying me the Beverly HillsCop record because that's what the young people
were listening to. Finger on thepulse that woman. Also, whether it's
Beverly Hills Cop or the Marx Brothers, when is it not fun to watch
a scrappy working class underdog mock andhumiliate uppercrust twits. You can never go

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wrong. In fact, put Axelin a Caddyshack movie while you're at it.
Got some familiar faces here in Axel. F Paul Riser, his boss,
the deputy chief. Yeah, yeah, you can't keep doing this stuff,
Axel. Do you know how madthe chief was that you wanh wah
wah wah, it becomes Charlie Brown'steacher. What were you expecting some Michael
Mann's stuff? Here? He canit is what it is? Okay,

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Now let's have some wiz and offand some silly action set pieces. Axel's
estranged from his adult daughter, andthey don't get along, but they have
to work together, all right,all right, I guess if you have
to. They exhumed Judge Reinhold andJohn Ashton Bronson picked pin show, and
they added Kevin Bacon, who isanother eighties picture, so repassed there.

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You're trying to tell me that BridgetNielsen was too booked up for this?
What were you thinking? Weirdly?John Ashton's only seventy six years old,
but he looks old enough that ifhe had an off night. In a
debate the New York Times, whoput an editorial on the front page above
the fold about it. We allage differently, though, don't we?
Mow? Nice callack callback ahem.Here Axel meets a younger cop played by

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Joseph Gordon Levitt, who courteously givesus a quick recap. And you can't
see it because it's radio. Butno, he's not looking directly into the
camera. Tag please, she's tigerfor sure, he's busy. Can you
tell him his ax? Will Foley? Okay? And how do you know
the chief? Well, this isn'tmy first time in Beverly Hills. I
saw that. Did you ever readyour own file? This is a lot

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starting the piece various shootouts evading thepolice is from eighty four, then there's
one from eighty seven, and thenninety four. Not your finest dollary,
Taggert. Anybody here got eyes on? Taggert? Nice remark about the third
movie. The director of the firstBeverly Hills cop movie was Martin Brest.
Brest. He had a real knackfor this kind of thing, which you

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also saw with Midnight Run. Rememberthat one. Axe Lef is the first
film of director Mark molloy, andhe gives this movie about as much stylistic
flare as an episode of La Heatfrom TNT in the late nineties. By
the way, I like La Heat, but that's a different story. I
think it's on free V you cansee it for yourself. Could axel Lef
have been better? Oh? Ohyeah? Is it kind of a buy

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the numbers walk through? Yeah?More often than not, poorly written and
directed. The formula parts, especiallyinvolving the estranged daughter, are so tedious
that I had to make sure anAi wasn't responsible for the screenplay, and
I'm not going to tell you whowas. What I'm saying is this movie
has a scene of two guys ina vehicle looking at each other and going,
ah, oh, how fresh andmad cap. But it's fun to

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have everybody back together, and EddieMurphy's funny even when it's just throwaway stuff.
That's it. Here's your pull quote, publicist. Watchable but crap with
people we like. It got methinking about the original Beverly Hills cop and
forty eight Hours and creating places inEddie Murphy's concert films, stuff that had
huge culture impact back at the time. We were all walking around and quoting

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this stuff when we were kids.This Beverly Hills Cop four isn't even close
to being in the same league asany of that stuff. In fact,
it's like a love Boat episode whereone of the stories featured an old time
oscar winner from the forties that yourparents loved. They're pleased to see him
even in something like this, Butthis ain't what they're going to be remembered

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for and you hope everybody got paid. Well, I would have been perfectly
happy if Dolomite is my name wasEddie's swan song and he just decided he
had enough money and we could alljust go get films with other people.
Mo, did you feel exactly thesame way. I will say this,
I'm going to need the next segmentto deconstruct everything that you said, because

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everything you said was verifiably incorrect.I see, and it was beneath you
as a film critics, so manyobvious pluses to Beverly Hills cop axelth When
did you watch it? I watchedit? When did it drop? The
first day? That had dropped assoon as I got home from work,

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so a couple of nights ago,A couple of nights ago, and my
reaction was immediate. I will standby it, and I'm going to go
to break early because I need allmy time to get ready to tee you
up and boots you through the goalpost. All right, let's get into
this late lapare yate there, Kimsix forty, mister Mo Kelly here,

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We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Last segment, we had the runner
report, and Mark Ronner detailed hisrelative dislike of Beverly Hills cop Axel F
mixed Yeah, okay, mixed bag, but it was more negative than positive.
And I said, I'm going togive my response to his review,

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When I sat down and watched Axof, it was after day of work,
it was late at night. Ihad every reason to want to go to

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sleep, every single reason. Soif the movie was not going to be
decent, I would have turned itoff and gone straight to sleep. I
had also recently rewatched the original BeverlyHills Cop. That's really important. In
fact, I said this when Iwas talking to Wayne Resnik on Thursday.

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Is part of the Bill Handles show. That's important, if only because you
will notice the intentionality of this movie. It is really not meant to restore
the franchise. Is really not torestart the franchise. They're not telling this
story with the intent of handing itoff to a younger cast so we can

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have more Beverly Hills Cop movies.Now, this is really just get the
band back together for one last rideand then that's it. Everything that I
wanted out of this movie I gotout of this movie. What I wanted
was a feeling, a return tothe feeling of the original which made Eddie

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Murphy a worldwide star. This moviedoes that, and it is self aware
when you start the movie, andI'm gonna try to do this without spoilers.
When you start the movie at thesoundtrack is prominently featured in the movie.
They're setting the stage. They're lettingyou know they are taking you back
in many ways to nineteen eighty four, and part of taking you back to

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nineteen eighty four, and also whyI would recommend rewatching the first Beverly Hills
Cop. There are things in thismovie which are intentionally beat by beat exactly
the same as the original, soyou can almost put them side by side
and see they are reworking some ofthe original scenes but just updated. And

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you get to see in how it'sself aware that Eddie Murphy's just say actual
Foley, the character realizes I'm toodamn old for this, and the things
that he did back in nineteen eightyfour not only seem out of place today,
they don't work. And that's thepart of the update without making it
a complete update, where it's like, no, dude, you are not

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necessarily out of your league, butyou're out of place, you're out of
your own time, and he's likethe old man at the club who doesn't
realize he's the old man at theclub. I love the addition of Bronson
pin show. There are some jokesthat they rework as callbacks to the original,
but you've seen how all these charactersgrow up, like, for example,

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if you're gonna take me back toBeverly Hills cop in nineteen eighty four,
And yes, the math doesn't work. Everybody should be retired at this
point. I concede that, butyou have to have suspension of disbelief.
But I do want to know whatBilly Rosewood turned out, what he ended
up doing, what Taggart actually endedup doing. They answered those questions and
they weave them into the story howit plays out. And also you still

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need to add some additional characters.Yes, how they added his daughter and
that storyline was hokey, but Iwasn't there for her. I was there
for axul Foley. I was therefor Rosewood and Taggart and to see how
they turned out. And this iswhy this movie worked for me. And
let's say other nostalgia pieces didn't workfor me, like the subsequent Star Wars

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trilogy. All through Star Wars Movieseven to eighty nine, we were denied
the opportunity of the gang actually gettingback together and one last ride in the
Millennium Falcon unforgivable. Right. Thismovie does not do that. They give
you that and each step of theway. And again you have to watch

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the original to know how they areclowning, what they can no longer do,
or the things that they're still tryingto do. And it was out
of place then and it's out ofplace now. And I'll just give a
minor detail. The whole idea ofgoing to a strip club now that's addressed.
How Billy as at a shootout,that's addressed. All those things are

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taken directly from the original Beverly HillsCop. And so when I say that
it's true to the original, it'sintentional. They're trying to And I say
that to say, if you lookat this movie through the eyes of twenty
twenty four sensibilities, you've missed thepoint. It is trying to be hokey,

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It is trying to be ridiculous andunseerious. You know, it's laughing
at the whole idea of someone who'sa detective at sixty three years old trying
to solve something by himself with theuse of no technology. And the story
is about technology. I'm not tryingto give it away, but his unfamiliarity

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with the modern day police strategies andtactics which are available. It's almost like
axel F really was not a policeofficer for the past forty years, because
there's certain things that he should haveknown that he didn't know. He was
like, wow, you can dothat. No, of course they can
do that. Well, they apparentlydon't have any mass media or internet in

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Detroit in twenty twenty four, right. And I also like, you got
to see this is not a spoiler. You get to see more of where
he came from. You got tosee Detroit at his police department. Oh,
you get to see his pad.I love stuff like that, right,
So there were things that I reallyenjoyed. And at no point did

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I feel that Eddie Murphy mailed inhis performance and just took a check.
No, he's very funny. Notonly is he terrific, he looks really
good for his age as well.Well, you have to remember he's sixty
three and I know Judge Reinhold andJohn Ashton, who plays Taggart, are
older, but Eddie Murphy must beeating something and drinking something, which is

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helped keeping him young. Now he'sheavier, and they don't try to hide
that fact. You dad bod.Yeah, he's got a dad bob.
And he's not as over the topas he used to because and that's addressed
in it, because he's coming atthis from the standpoint of being a father.
He's an arrier and wiser axel foh yeah. And the scenes where

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he tries to defend his old schoolbs ory I think are really funny.
I forgot what else I was gonnasay. I just I think he's terrific
in it, and I just itreminded me of how much I just miss
regular Eddie Murphy movies coming out rightnow. This has to do with expectations.
This movie probably would not have donewell if it were released in theaters.
Why because people are probably expecting adifferent type of product when you pay

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seventeen dollars to see an Eddie Murphymovie. One, he's not the star
that he once was, if onlybecause you have a generation of folks who
don't even know what it's like tosee an Eddie Murphy movie in theaters.
They just don't because he dropped offthe scene for a while. This is
something that Eddie Murphy's I would say, come back to prominence. You know,
he's doing much more media, He'sdoing interviews except here. Part of

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that is he is okay with notbeing the only thing funny in the stuff
that he does. If you watchwhen he did when he did the sequel
to Coming to America, yes hewas the star, but he was not
the star, not like the original. He is embracing the fact that it's

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not his time. And even inthis movie, there's some other people who
do some funny stuff in this likethe original. Yeah, that's true.
And I actually don't disagree with anythingthat you said, but I still maintain
everything that I argued. There wereweak points about how formulaic and just cheap
some of it was given, howgreat he deserved a better vehicle than this.

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I mean, I understand that itsatisfied you on all the spots that
it hit. I just wish ithad been better. Look, I thought
that cheesiness was spot on. Ithought that the whole idea of a Beverly
Hills Cop was easy. It wasridiculous. The action movies of the nineteen
eighties were always over the top.This is no different. You can see

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in the trailer that he's driving likea dump truck, a trash truck.
Yeah, and just plowing through thecity. Okay, that was typical for
eighties movies. It's ridiculous in twentytwenty four. But you're never gonna get
rid of that trope, which islike the Coogan's Bluff thing. You know,
the bumpkin from whatever background, whetherit's the country or Detroit or wherever,

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coming to the big city and usinghis unconventional means to rile everybody up.
Yes, that's Beverly Hills Cop.Yeah. Yeah, I don't have
a problem with that. I justwish that this particular vehicle had they'd put
a little bit more thought into it, because I didn't have any complaint with
anybody who was in it. EddieMurphy's just walking around funny, and I'm

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really curious about how much of thatwas ad libs, Like some of the
conversations with his daughter where he's mockingher. Those really felt like they were
lib and hilarious. Oh they hadto been, because he was just so
quick with it. I don't knowif you could write that for Eddie Murphy.
I don't know. I don't seehow you could. I think he
had a framework and what the scenewas supposed to be. They probably did

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a straight clip shot, and thenthey probably had an ad lib shot where
they let him just riff off thescene. Yeah, and Netflix isn't in
the habit of putting anything out onDVD, but I would love to see
how it takes from this somewhere somehow, absolutely, because I don't know how
people could have not broken character withthe stuff that was happening on scene.
I kind of have to wonder ifpeople have forgotten just how funny, just

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how just walking around effortless funny EddieMurphy used to be. Like even the
cheapest, quickest, most ephemeral thingshe did on Saturday Night Live just broke
us up. And I think that'slargely due to the lack of quality stand
up comedians today. You don't getthe same type of comedians who are really

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honing their craft. They want tobe in movies and they're kind of funny,
but they're not like stand up comedianfunny where they can find the funny
just about anywhere. Yeah, andat a certain point, especially with Eddie
Murphy in particular, there's some sortof Pavlovian response. You're so used to
laughing at him now, if yousee him in an interview or something,
all he has to do is lookin a certain way and you're primed to

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laugh. Well, he's one ofthose classic comedians where facial expressions are part
of comedy. Yeah, he couldhave been a silent film star easily.
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