July 16, 2024 • 37 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the Weekend Box Office AND Atari’s “virtual/IRL (in-real-life)” Summer Camp…PLUS - NASA is developing a Pulsed Plasma Rocket that could get astronauts to Mars and back in 2 months - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty and
Look You Here, Look You Here. Even though Towalla sharp hated the movie,
Despicable Me four came in at numberone again and had a very very
respectable forty four million dollars or so, even added twenty one theaters. So
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even though Twala didn't like the movie, the movie is doing well in theaters
now. Movie houses probably appreciate that, but as far as quality of the
movie releases, not so much.Long legs. You probably heard Mark Ronner
explain how that was a surprising numbertwo with twenty two zero point four million.
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I still don't know what that movie'sabout. Don't know if I'll go
to see it. Oh you shouldsee It's It's good. It's it kind
of starts you off in kind ofsilence of the Lamb's territory and then gets
weirder. Well worth seeing. Andit was only projected to make up to
fifteen million dollars over the weekend,and it really blew that out. Inside
Out came in at number three withnineteen million. Its hall is now up
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to five hundred and seventy one million. Domestically. That is another bona fide
hit. It is globally one pointthree four billion, number one movie of
the year so far, very verysurprising. I don't think even Pixar expected
that movie to do that. Well, usually you have some level of diminishing
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return for a sequel. Oh no, they expected this one to go gangbusters
one point four billion gang busters.The early reports they said that this was
going to be the first billion dollarfilm of the year. Well, it
was true to form in that regard. I have a quick question. I
had the opportunity to see a screeningof the new movie Twisters, which is
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you yeah, which is not?It's not a sequel per se to the
nineteen ninety sixth movie Twister with HelenHunt and Bill Paxton, but it is,
they say, a continuation of theoverarching story. It's a succession of
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that story, but it's not connectedin any way. There are no characters
shared, there are no updates onanyone. There are some homages in it.
I saw it. It was okay. The stars Glenn Powell and someone
else I never heard of, can'tremember her name, but you know,
it was okay. There was somedecent cgi and some tense moments. I
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did appreciate how they made the movieas if the tornadoes plural were definitely monstrous,
villainous, they were characters in themovie. I just didn't buy the
story. If you saw the original, you know, Helen Hunt scarred by
the loss and memory of her father, so she's doing this in memory of
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him to get more information about howand why tornado's form. This movie the
protagonist she scarred because she lost friendswhile in college studying tornadoes, trying to
get more information about how and whythey form, and the whole movie is
about her trying to get more information. Say it with me, how and
why Tornado's form. It seems likeeverything that Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton did
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in nineteen ninety six meant nothing.Nothing. I thought the whole point of
the device that they created Dorothy Dorothyone, two and three, it didn't.
It didn't because clearly what they're workingwith now, with this updated technology,
it didn't know much more. Idon't know what to say. It's
almost like the first movie didn't happenat all in the larger telling of the
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Twisters universe. But there is supposedto be you know, this is this
is a Twisters universe. It's withinthe same world. You know. They
even have the ho watch it's nota big secret. It's in the trailer.
Then O watch to the Red Truck. They have almost an identical red
truck. It's just old and beatup. Now that's the main truck in
this movie. Okay, yeah,it was. Okay, I just threw
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that in it because I'm trying tofigure out when it comes out. I
think it comes out tomorrow, sothere's a lot of anticipation for that.
I loved Twister the original, soit was it was sledding uphill for me.
Glenn Powell, it's a fine actor. It's just the movie itself.
They should have called it, Idon't know, tornadoes or something like that.
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It's just don't call it something else. Don't try to connect it.
They had the same even font asthe original movie, so they're trying to
let you know it's a continuation ofthe storyline, but it's not a continuation
of the storyline. Boy, lookat the perks. You get an advance
screening in the Twister movie. You'reon the no no, no, boy,
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you don't know twall and nin Weused to go to a lot of
screenings a lot because we had moretime. Now, if you're doing a
show between seven and ten Monday throughFriday, look, I get lot.
I get invites to screenings from Amazon, but they're all started away six o'clock,
starting to get step and I'm like, no, can't go. So
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that will probably be number one thisweek, this coming week. But let
me get back to the chart.Coming in at number four this week is
a quiet place Day one. It'sstill hanging tough as a total of one
hundred and fifteen million domestically and twohundred and twenty million worldwide. But see
this is another example of diminishing returns. I think that's the lowest of the
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three movies total gross, if I'mnot mistaken. Number five, fly Me
to the Moon. I think thatunderperformed. It came in with nine million,
and this is a debut week.That's domestic, and it had nine
million international, so eighteen million worldwide. I didn't really care. I didn't
want to see that movie because I'veseen the movie Capricorn one, so at
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best, it's a pale imitation ofCapricorn one. If you know the storyline,
Oh, you can't beat Capricorn one. Capricorn One with better special effects
could have been a classic movie.I think it is a classic movie regardless
of the present. I think it'sa cult classic. I think it's a
cult classic. It could have beena straight up classic if it had today's
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production sensibilities available to it. Well, yeah, and you and I were
talking about outlined a couple of breaksago, same director Peter Hyams. He
ranked out some wonderfully entertaining stuff fora couple of decades around the eighties and
seventies. Bad Boys Ride or Dieat number six, coming in at number
seven, It's Horizon American Saga Chapterone coming in a number eightist Maxine Triple
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X number nine, Sound of Hope, the Story of Possum Trot. And
I'm hearing like a lot of goodreviews on that. That what I'm not
going to see him? Try?Well, would you rather see Indian two,
which came in at number two withone I guess I'm saying, I
have no idea what's happening. Itcame in at number ten. I don't
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like that. And did you knowthey re released The Lion King. It
brought in a million dollars this week? Yeah, that's just cheap. That's
just a cheap play. That's justlike free money. It's like, let's
just throw it back in theaters thissummertime. Yeah, somebody will go see
it. Now, see the Horizonmovie that did so bad that they've canceled
Horizon too. Well, they didn'tcancel it, they postponed it. I
thought they they postponed a damn nearing. Definitely. No. I thought that
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they weren't going to try to releasethe next one in theaters, so it
was supposed to go direct to streaming. Well, the last that I read
was that they wanted to give thisfirst one more of a chance to be
seen by people, and so theypushed off the second one. They want
people to see this on streaming onmax on. I won't. I really
want to see it, and Ifeel bad that I didn't go and see
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it in the theater, But nowthat I know it's going to be hidden
streaming soon, I'm not going to. It's hard for me to watch long,
dull movies. It was. Ittook me like three different sittings to
watch Doom Part two. I stillhaven't bothered because the first one was such
a snoozer. It's kind of likethe second part of that Zack Snyder abomination
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that's on Netflix. Why would Iput myself through a part two if the
first one sucks. I'm telling youpart two. I don't care what Tawalla
says. He's wrong. It's worsethan part one. And that took me
like five sittings, no exaggeration,short, every hour counts. I couldn't
get through it. It was sobad. Yeah, it was streaming bad.
Your Horizon movie. They say it'spulled from theaters, so it's not
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coming out August, and at thistime the film remains unclear when it will
ever come out. Well, that'stoo bad. I love Westerns, and
I'm kind of I'm ambivalent about Costner, but I think he knows how to
make a decent movie. Yeah,I think he does. It's just that
me personally, I don't like long, slow plotting movies. Not not any
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of the Lord of the Rings movies, none of them. I just there's
a lot of walking and talking.I don't need three hours of that.
That's honestly part of what's kept mefrom seeing it in the theater, because
you got to spend like a halfa day just to see this movie.
And as we get older, Iget crankier and crankier about movies that are
over two hours, Like you couldn'tdo this in two hours or ninety minutes?
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Really well, not only that,I got to go to the bathroom.
You know it's three hours. Yeah, I forgot to mention your prostate.
I'm sorry. Thank you. Atleast I care about my prostate even
if you don't know. We alldo. Thank you. That wasn't funny.
It wasn't a joke. It's astatement of fact. I'm gonna start
making most prostate or regular feature ofmy weekly reviews. No, no,
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it was making an appearance. It'snot going to stay. It's not going
to be a regular feature. Well, it'll be subtext in all of them,
whether or not you pick up onit. Later with mo Kelly,
we're going to talk about Atari SummerCamp when we come back KFI AE six
forty Like everywhere in the iHeartRadio appyou're listening to Later with mo Kelly on
demand from KFI AM six forty Atari. We all know it's one of the
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world's most iconic consumer brands and interactiveentertainment producers in the world. They announced
earlier that there is open enrollment forAtari Summer Camp, which is an eight
week online celebration of retro gaming andeverything nineteen eighties. And that's just perfect
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for someone who's gen X like me, and anyone can join during the camp
season by signing up at Atari dotcom. And I have to ask this
question, Elmer, you were bornin the late twentieth century ninety two?
Do you have any memory of anAtari console? I never owned one,
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but like I know of them,Mark, he knows of them. He's
never laid his hand on an Atariconsole. Wow. There are partner events
and virtual field trips which will beannounced with the course of the four two
week sessions. They also include specialactivations Coinbase, Nifty Island, roller Coaster,
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Tycoon, and more. Participants willlog into a personalized Atari club page
and gain access to a camp portalmodel after an Atari st desktop that is
hosted by an AI Camp director,Old Meeting. New programming will take place
in Discord, social media, andseveral immersive partner platforms. If you're on
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the net, you know what allthat means. There's going to be a
mix of virtual and IRL in reallife. Activities will be revealed over the
eight week camp including high score competitions, scavenger hunts, creative projects, trivia,
and special apparel and accessory drops.Let me just ask you this.
Can you really call it a summercamp? If it's eight weeks long,
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that sounds like a semester, Thatsounds like a chore. I don't want
to do anything for eight weeks.Nah, you're not a gamer, though,
that's true. That's true. Ihaven't been a gamer since I played
an Atari. I never had anAtari, but I played Atario with my
friend across the street. I hadin a television. Yeah, Elver's making
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me feel ancient here. I actuallyhad in my swinging Bachelor Pat and Seattle
a Donkey Kong cocktail machine. Ican't go wrong. No, I feel
like two hundred years old now thoughwell it was only like fifty years ago,
so yeah, that was fresh forall of us. But my son
would have been into this, likewhen he was younger, he would probably
wanted to attend some rather than goingto an actual camp. As much as
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he's into gaming, he would haveloved something like this. And as you
know, the Atari Summer Camp isinspired by the Atari operated computer camps from
aspiring programmers that ran in the nineteeneighties, the camps blended a comprehensive computer
education and programming curriculum with a moreadditional camp experience including social activities, sports,
swimming, music, and arts.So it's not just programming and playing
games. There's a there's a degreeof physicality with it. There's a full
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uh. The Atari Club is anexpression of Atari's history, it's present,
and its future. It's a nexusfor connecting with fans and partners and together
exploring Atari and collaborating on future projects. And here's another example. We talked
about this before. Usually the companywhich has the first success doesn't have the
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lasting success. When you think abouta home gaming console, Atari was it.
It was the first one, andit was huge, and then it
disappeared. Don't forget Pond Well,but that was a game. When I'm
talking about a console where you hadcartridges and cassettes in the way that changed
the way that we had We leftthe physical arcade and could play versions of
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arcade games at home. Oh mygod, it was like we were living
in the future. Are you kidding? It was the best of times and
the best of times. There wasno downside to it at all, even
though the graphics were prehistoric. Theywere two dimensional basic blocks and bricks,
but it made the most out ofit. Also, Donkey Kong was really
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hard. Pac Man I found youcould get some expertise and make a quarter
go for a while. Oh yeah, but I mean the stand up vertical
arcade games. There was no replacingthem, but you still could have that
fun playing games and versions of themat home. Like you had a missile
command in the arcade and you hada missile command on Atari. Oh those
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are also hard missile command. Togive you a breakdown, Well, I
hated some of those games because nomatter what you were going to lose,
it was just a matter of time. You always be an Asteroids. Whatever
you were gonna lose, you're onlygonna get but so High Galaga, you
were gonna lose. That was myfrustrating There was like you never got to
a boss level where you won thegame. Twenty six hundred did that though.
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The twenty six hundred when when itstarted getting more and more advanced,
that is what what kept us outof the arcade is when the game stepped
up and the graphics started looking good. That is when it was next Level
fifty fifty two hundred yes, yes, that that's when it was like,
okay, Pitfall and right, youknow dig Doug all the drag and dragons
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like stuff like that was like,that's next level for us. Dig Doug
also pretty hard. In fact,I'll admit this as a fully grown adult,
I went on a dig Dug thinglike last year, and I wouldn't
quit until I reached a certain score. That game is not easy, but
a Cubert. I hated Cubert.Cubert is tough too and irritating. I
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liked Defender, especially on Atari andin the Arcade and also Zaxxon. Oh
you may not remember Zaxon. Youplay that. It was like a three
dimensional game where you're trying to fly, almost like to these Tetris type openings.
It was really hard, but therewas a reasonable version of it on
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Atari, and yeah, it wasgreat. It was great back then.
There's no way that kids today wouldlook at that. It's like you actually
spent time play because it was ridiculouslyprehistoric. But yeah, and it's weird
because for as much as I playedcomputer games back then, I don't have
any desire to do them now.My computer games are other things now.
I like doing other things with mytime. I feel like I'm wasting time
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just playing games. I have nogames on my phone zero. I just
don't play games now. I don'tmind like stat games that are kind of
running in the background, like fantasyfootball, those types of things, I
don't have to devote a lot oftime and it can just kind of do
its own thing. But to sitthere and be a captive audience to a
game for three or four hours ata time, no, can't do it.
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Well, that's what happens. I'llget wrapped up in a game and
I'll lose a couple of days,four days days, yes, And at
the end of that, I'll think, what do I retain of this?
What is this worth? It's notlike reading a great book or seeing a
couple of great movies. It's justkind of done when it's done right.
And I never developed that gene inadulthood, Like I never got into the
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whole Xbox Sony PlayStation, none ofthat. And the games are tremendous.
They are wowsers as far as thecapabilities and functionality, and I could admire
them, but I have no desireto play them none. Well, I
still play those first and third personshooters but at a certain point they're all
the same. See, and Inever got into the shooters never. I
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like the games like Wizardry, therole playing games. You'd have attributes and
you could put together teams of people. But that was it. Those are
the games that appealed to me andthat grew out of the I would say,
the beginning computer revolution and BBS bulletinboard systems, not the cartridge games
of the of the Atari years.So you don't have a console at home.
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I hadn't. I had in television. But now you don't know now,
Mark, you're a gamer. Nowyou game currently right now, not
as much as I used to.I only have a PS four. I
don't have a five. There yougo, there it is. I only
have a four, not a five. I don't have the latest console nothing,
all right, I don't have thetime for a PS anything, PS
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prostage for you, right, Okay, fair enough? Call back? Okay
if you open your mouth any widerwhen you do that, your teeth are
gonna fall right out. Come on, no, so they you can't be
goaded into a rim shot. Whatthe hell is wrong with you? Him?
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Scold you like that, he's notyour boss. Just later, with
Mokelly. Can if I answer sportedwith love everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
And we have a NASA update.They're investing in our rocket that could get
humans to Mars and back in twomonths, two months, be home in
time for dinner. You're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty. Growing up asa kid, I loved space exploration,
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the idea of it. I wasa Space Shuttle kid. I was too
young to remember the Apollo missions.I got to see all of the Space
Shuttle missions and the development of theSpace Shuttle. But we didn't go anywhere.
We didn't go to the Moon,we didn't go to Mars, we
didn't go anywhere cool. We justkind of launched, you know, rotated
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the Earth a few times, andthen we came back and landed. I
wanted us to explore, explore fartherout into the reaches of space space.
But the but the difficulty was thatwe did not technologically have the propulsion available
to do it. To get toMars would mean an extended trip in which
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astronauts would be exposed to ungodly amountsof radiation, and it probably would be
a one way trip. It wouldtake too long to get to Mars and
unlikely that they would be able toget astronauts back. So up until now
it's been a fool's errand in thatregard more imagination than anything. And if
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we could ever develop the propulsion sideand get astronauts to and from Mars quicker
than Mars becomes more of a likelydestination. Now there is the pulsed plasma
rocket, which in theory could propela ship up to one hundred thousand miles
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per hour. NASA has invested sevenhundred and twenty five thousand dollars, which
is a paltry sum, but they'veinvested about three quarters of a million dollars
in a new rocket system that,if it does as advertise, could solve
one of the major obstacles in regardto sending humans to Mars, just trying
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to shorten the travel time. Currently, a round trip to Mars would take
almost two years, a year thereand a year back. All that radiation
exposure in between, there's not enoughshielding. All that radiation in between most
likely would kill you just on theway there. There's solar radiation, there's
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cosmic radiation, there's the harmful effectsof zero gravity, the isolation being in
that small tube or whatever it isfor a year each way, and then
there's just the i would say,the harsh elements of the Mars atmosphere.
It's least likely, it's very unlikelythat astronauts would survive the journey, much
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less survive Mars because space radiation isthe biggest threat astronauts who spend just six
months in space I'm saying in spacelow orbit, not actually traveling anywhere,
but just low orbit, they areexposed to roughly the same amount of radiation
as one thousand chest X rays onethousand just sitting up on the space station.
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It's almost like if you go tothe International Space Station and spend a
good six months there, you havemore than quadrupled your risk for cancer or
nervous system damage, bone loss,heart disease. And that's just a short
list of staying in space. Becausewhen you're in space, you don't have
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the benefit of the protection of ouratmosphere, which usually blocks out most of
the cosmic in space radiation. Inspace, you're just out there and you're
just just sucking it all in.But if you get to Mars, quicker,
less time, there's less exposure tothat radiation instead of the two year
journey. But about this new technology, it would be another twenty years before
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this technology could be fully developed,tested and actually put into use. Twenty
years, so that makes Mark Ronnerabout eighty seven by the time this is
actually a real thing. If Ican hear you in here, oh,
I'm sorry, just making sure thatyou're listening. Well. This new propulsion,
theorized propulsion system. It uses pulsesof superheated plasma to generate tremendous levels
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of thrust and it's currently in phasetwo of development and it's funded by a
NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts Program. ThePhase two study is scheduled to begin this
month and is focused on optimizing theengine design, performing proof of concept experiments,
and designing a PPR powered shield shita spaceship for human missions to Mars.
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And this will probably be something forElma's children or grandchildren, not for
you of me. Mark, Well, but who doesn't like tremendous levels of
thrust? Though, honestly, Elbert, no, that's just a double ententent.
That's not like intimidate. You don'thave to do that I would say
this most technology is beyond our years. I think the next major advancement in
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thrust is probably beyond our lifetimes.We're not going to reach interstellar light speed
anytime soon. That way, atyour age, you're never going to have
an advancement in thrust. No,there we go. Goodness, gracious,
it's about time. Yes, well, they're they're estimating if everything were to
work as theorized, this spacecraft carryingfour people or six people could travel roughly
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one hundred thousand miles per hour,and the PPR rocket would have to slow
down significantly to enter orbit. Sothat's the thing, you know, when
you have one hundred thousand miles anhour in speed, you have to develop
some sort of space break to slowdown. Yeah, physics don't work the
way you see them in Star Wars. No, not at all. It's
not like you can just slow downand break and hit that curve like they
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do in Star Wars. You can'thave a dog fight. You don't hear
your stuff. No, you don'thear stuff. You don't hear the lasers
in the shooting and explosions, noneof that. The Star Wars has never
really been big on actual science oh, Star Wars is fantasy. Star Trek
is science fiction. Yeah, theclosest thing I would say to science as
far as movies go. And twothousand and one Interstellar was pretty good.
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I'm not so sure I agreed withthe whole bookcase thing, but the ending
was. It was great until theygot to the third act. Put it
that way. Yeah, character motivations, none of it made sense. Way,
mate, You're gonna leave your daughterthat you were trying the whole movie
to get back to, who's getold and getting ready to die, to
chase after this chick who's on theother side of the galaxy, who doesn't
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even like you, who's obsessed aboutsome other astronaut who died on said rock
on the other side of the galaxy. And you can just take a spaceship
on a joy ride. Just pickone, just pick one, and just
take one from the hangar and go, and gonna leave all the new family
members that you never met. Inother words, your daughter, her children,
her grandchildren, great great grandchildren.They had all of a conversation of
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four minutes, and he was outchasing some ass. You didn't see Neil
Armstrong doing that, not at all. And he was a real American hero,
not Matthew McConaughey, He's a fakeAmerican hero. It's Later with Mo
Kelly. We'll check you in withGeorge Norri Coast Coast AM. In just
a moment k IF I Am sixforty. We are live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app k IF I Am sixforty. It is Later with Mo Kelly,
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Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.Coming up in just a few moments
will be Coast to Coast AM withGeorge Norri, who joins me right now
on the line. Good evening,sir, What a weekend. Mo huh.
That's one way to describe it.It's one thing to experience things in
real time, but it's it's likethe world is speeding up in a way
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which I can can't even comprehend.In our lifetime, we have been through
so much stuff, haven't we.It seems like history moved at a snail's
pace in comparison. Anyway. Onthe show tonight, after our News of
the day, which we will coverthe big story of course, we're going
to talk about forbidden archaeology. Thenlater on a little walk on the Paranormal
side on Coast to coast. Allright, I'll be sure to be tuning
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in on the way home, sir. Thanks Mom, And before we get
out of here, just want toremind you if there's anything that you missed
a part of tonight's show. Let'ssay you want to pick up your horoscope
and didn't hear it, or youwant to hear my thoughts about the Trump
assassination attempt. You didn't hear meobviously on Saturday or Sunday, and you're
curious what I thought about it.You can check that out on the podcast.
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It was the full first hour ofthe show where I laid out where
I was, what I thought inthe moment, what we've learned since the
larger debate about rhetoric and political violence, what path we're on now, what
the future may hold. I addressall of that. I talked about how
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what may look like as the eventualwinner of the presidential race right now?
If you look at history, itcould go either way. Sometimes we get
a little ahead of ourselves. Twentysixteen was a perfect example. Nineteen sixty
eight was another example. And Idraw those parallels if you want to check
that out. That's all in thepodcast. That Tall Sharp producer of the
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program is putting together right now,and as I was just talking to George
Norri talking about the incredible times thatwe're living in. I'm a student of
history. I love history. Ilove looking at the present through the lens
of history. What comparisons can bemade, what parallels are there, what
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can we learn from previous events whichwere similar to what we're appearencing right now.
And even though there are some parallels, nineteen sixty eight is obvious parallel,
there's really nothing like the times we'rein at this moment, and we
probably won't have the right words toexplain it or the perspective to best understand
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it for another twenty thirty years.You usually have to go way down the
road and look back to best understandwhat is happening in this moment. I'm
sure similar words were said in nineteensixty eight, given the unrest in the
country, given the assassinations, theriots, the political acrimony. From what
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I understand, it took a goodtwenty years or so well into the nineteen
eighties to best understand how much tumultwas going on in nineteen sixty eight.
And mind you, that's after theCivil rights struggles of the Voting Rights Act
and the Civil Rights Act. That'safter the Human miss crisis. I tell
you America was a mess in thenineteen sixties, but you can make an
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apt comparison to America in the twentytwenties as far as the amount of dysfunction
that we are dealing with on adaily basis, the inability to seemingly get
the easy stuff right when it comesto elections or basic getting along. Everything
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is a congressional inquiry. Everything isa fight on Capitol Hill. Nothing is
easy. We have a dispute abouteverything from Christmas to Starbucks, to children's
entertainment to education. We can't agreeon anything, and I'm quite sure people
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will say it was because of theDemocrats. So some people will say because
of the Republicans. I'll let youall fight that out. Honestly, I'm
tired and really, really tired ofwhat America is right now. And I
was talking to a younger person whowas asking, like, what I thought
about this, Because if you're notover the age of twenty twenty five,
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you have no reference point, youhave no perspective. What you're going through
now is normality. This is whatyou expect this is what you know.
This is all you know. Youknow what's happening on Capitol Hill. You
expect that that gridlock, that's whatit is, that's always what is going
to be. And I remember atime it wasn't like that. In the
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nineteen eighties. You may have hadRonald Reagan as president, but you also
had Tip O'Neil as a Speaker ofthe House, and somehow, some way,
they managed to get things done,they managed to move the country forward.
And those days seem so long ago. I don't know if we'll ever
get back to that. But Iwas speaking to a young person and trying
to tell them that what's happening rightnow is not always like it used to
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be, and I don't know ifwe'll ever get back to that point.
I don't know what you think ofthis moment, mark, but they're oftentimes
when I'm very dissuaded and pessimistic aboutwhether will successfully navigate this moment without decapitate,
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to capitate decapitating ourselves in the process. Yeah, I can't say I'm
exactly becoming more of an optimist aswe go through these things. But you
mentioned wanting to keep an eye onhistory and I'm totally on the same page
as you when it comes to that, and as much of a grotesque cesspool
of disinformation that Twitter is, Ipick close attention to historian Twitter. Yes,
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some historians I follow. Kevin Cruzisn't on there anymore, but he's
terrific, and he's probably not onthere because it's turned into such a sesspool.
Timothy Snyder is another good one tofollow. But just look at history
and Twitter, and they have It'snot opinion. These are experts who know
history and will tell you what we'regoing through now, what it was embols,
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and you know the degree to whichyou should be alarmed what people have
done in the past. It's veryinstructive to me. Well, let me
put it this way. And Iknow you are acting in a news capacity,
so I know you choose your wordsvery wisely. I don't have to
choose them wisely. I always sayhistory doesn't necessarily repeat itself, but it
damn sure rhymes. There are somereal reminiscent moments, rhetoric occurrences which are
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happening right now, and you onlybest appreciate that when you have the historical
foundation to recognize it. If youhaven't studied it, then you're not going
to recognize it. It's not goingto seem eerily similar unless you know to
what it's similar to. That's exactlyright. Ruth ben Giott is another one
too, and she's yeah, she'sa good one, an expert on totalitarianism
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authoritarian governments. And I just youknow, it takes somebody pretty talented to
make history come alive for you.And I was lucky enough to have a
couple of professors shout out to LeroyAshby here who really were good at stringing
things together and making you understand thesignificance of how A ultimately led to Z.
And this is a good time tostudy that stuff, to read that
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stuff. And boyd, when stuffis happening at the intensity and speed that
things are happening now, it hardlyseems like homework. It seems like you're
arming yourself to prepare to understand whatwe're going through in this moment. Yeah,
And it's never about today. It'snever about what happened today, what
happened yesterday. There's a progression.There is a series of events which led
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up to a certain moment or acertain politician or a certain occurrence, like
going back to the assassination tempt onPresident Trump, it wasn't just what happened
on Saturday. There was a lotof stuff which led up to it.
And I'm not talking about in theconspiracy sense. I'm not talking about in
the shooter's life. I'm talking aboutthe totality of society. You know,
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the violence that we see perpetrated onSaturday is not new. And if we're
going to talk about violent rhetoric,we have to talk about gun violence in
America. We have to talk aboutall these things which are happening simultaneous to
what happened on Saturday. And althoughwe don't want Saturday to ever happen again,
it probably will happen again because wefully embrace violence and violent rhetoric in
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America, and we don't have thatconversation. We're too busy talking about condemning
the Democrats for what they said onTuesday and not talking about what has been
said for the past two years,the past four years, and the things
which have happened that you were okaywith. But since it didn't happen to
your preferred candidate or your preferred party, then it's no big deal. Like
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I said in the first segment,a lot of folks were laughing at Paul
Pelosi getting hit with a hammer.Don't think I forgot, And those same
people are saying today, oh mygosh, we need to tone down the
rhetoric. Rhetoric, really really.There are a lot of self appointed hall
monitors that I've seen, and I'vebeen doing as much reading, watching,
listening as I possibly can, andthey almost convey that it's impolite to bring
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up things that we know in therecent passage. Yes, don't ever let
anyone tell you to do that,ever, because the opposite is true.
Right now, we need to bemindful of what's gone before, and you
just can't have an honest discussion aboutthis stuff unless you bring everything into it.
Well, but see, the thingis, you're presupposing that people want
to have an honest discussion. Idon't think so. I think people want
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to be politically right, small rin the moment so they can win an
argument on Twitter, on social media, not actually getting to the heart of
the matter. If you're only worriedabout political violence since Saturday, I can't
take you seriously. No, it'sa form of gas lighting, intimidation,
bullying. You've got to put itinto the big picture. And anybody who
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tells you now is not a goodtime to talk about x Y or z
or politicized x Y or Z.Those aren't serious people. You shouldn't listen
to them, not at all.But you can listen to us. There
you go. Welcome back tomorrow,same time. Kf I am six forty.
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Look You Here, Look You Here. Even though Towalla sharp hated the movie,
Despicable Me four came in at numberone again and had a very very
respectable forty four million dollars or so, even added twenty one theaters. So
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even though Twala didn't like the movie, the movie is doing well in theaters
now. Movie houses probably appreciate that, but as far as quality of the
movie releases, not so much.Long legs. You probably heard Mark Ronner
explain how that was a surprising numbertwo with twenty two zero point four million.
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I still don't know what that movie'sabout. Don't know if I'll go
to see it. Oh you shouldsee It's It's good. It's it kind
of starts you off in kind ofsilence of the Lamb's territory and then gets
weirder. Well worth seeing. Andit was only projected to make up to
fifteen million dollars over the weekend,and it really blew that out. Inside
Out came in at number three withnineteen million. Its hall is now up
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to five hundred and seventy one million. Domestically. That is another bona fide
hit. It is globally one pointthree four billion, number one movie of
the year so far, very verysurprising. I don't think even Pixar expected
that movie to do that. Well, usually you have some level of diminishing
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return for a sequel. Oh no, they expected this one to go gangbusters
one point four billion gang busters.The early reports they said that this was
going to be the first billion dollarfilm of the year. Well, it
was true to form in that regard. I have a quick question. I
had the opportunity to see a screeningof the new movie Twisters, which is
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you yeah, which is not?It's not a sequel per se to the
nineteen ninety sixth movie Twister with HelenHunt and Bill Paxton, but it is,
they say, a continuation of theoverarching story. It's a succession of
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that story, but it's not connectedin any way. There are no characters
shared, there are no updates onanyone. There are some homages in it.
I saw it. It was okay. The stars Glenn Powell and someone
else I never heard of, can'tremember her name, but you know,
it was okay. There was somedecent cgi and some tense moments. I
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did appreciate how they made the movieas if the tornadoes plural were definitely monstrous,
villainous, they were characters in themovie. I just didn't buy the
story. If you saw the original, you know, Helen Hunt scarred by
the loss and memory of her father, so she's doing this in memory of
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him to get more information about howand why tornado's form. This movie the
protagonist she scarred because she lost friendswhile in college studying tornadoes, trying to
get more information about how and whythey form, and the whole movie is
about her trying to get more information. Say it with me, how and
why Tornado's form. It seems likeeverything that Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton did
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in nineteen ninety six meant nothing.Nothing. I thought the whole point of
the device that they created Dorothy Dorothyone, two and three, it didn't.
It didn't because clearly what they're workingwith now, with this updated technology,
it didn't know much more. Idon't know what to say. It's
almost like the first movie didn't happenat all in the larger telling of the
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Twisters universe. But there is supposedto be you know, this is this
is a Twisters universe. It's withinthe same world. You know. They
even have the ho watch it's nota big secret. It's in the trailer.
Then O watch to the Red Truck. They have almost an identical red
truck. It's just old and beatup. Now that's the main truck in
this movie. Okay, yeah,it was. Okay, I just threw
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that in it because I'm trying tofigure out when it comes out. I
think it comes out tomorrow, sothere's a lot of anticipation for that.
I loved Twister the original, soit was it was sledding uphill for me.
Glenn Powell, it's a fine actor. It's just the movie itself.
They should have called it, Idon't know, tornadoes or something like that.
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It's just don't call it something else. Don't try to connect it.
They had the same even font asthe original movie, so they're trying to
let you know it's a continuation ofthe storyline, but it's not a continuation
of the storyline. Boy, lookat the perks. You get an advance
screening in the Twister movie. You'reon the no no, no, boy,
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you don't know twall and nin Weused to go to a lot of
screenings a lot because we had moretime. Now, if you're doing a
show between seven and ten Monday throughFriday, look, I get lot.
I get invites to screenings from Amazon, but they're all started away six o'clock,
starting to get step and I'm like, no, can't go. So
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that will probably be number one thisweek, this coming week. But let
me get back to the chart.Coming in at number four this week is
a quiet place Day one. It'sstill hanging tough as a total of one
hundred and fifteen million domestically and twohundred and twenty million worldwide. But see
this is another example of diminishing returns. I think that's the lowest of the
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three movies total gross, if I'mnot mistaken. Number five, fly Me
to the Moon. I think thatunderperformed. It came in with nine million,
and this is a debut week.That's domestic, and it had nine
million international, so eighteen million worldwide. I didn't really care. I didn't
want to see that movie because I'veseen the movie Capricorn one, so at
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best, it's a pale imitation ofCapricorn one. If you know the storyline,
Oh, you can't beat Capricorn one. Capricorn One with better special effects
could have been a classic movie.I think it is a classic movie regardless
of the present. I think it'sa cult classic. I think it's a
cult classic. It could have beena straight up classic if it had today's
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production sensibilities available to it. Well, yeah, and you and I were
talking about outlined a couple of breaksago, same director Peter Hyams. He
ranked out some wonderfully entertaining stuff fora couple of decades around the eighties and
seventies. Bad Boys Ride or Dieat number six, coming in at number
seven, It's Horizon American Saga Chapterone coming in a number eightist Maxine Triple
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X number nine, Sound of Hope, the Story of Possum Trot. And
I'm hearing like a lot of goodreviews on that. That what I'm not
going to see him? Try?Well, would you rather see Indian two,
which came in at number two withone I guess I'm saying, I
have no idea what's happening. Itcame in at number ten. I don't
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like that. And did you knowthey re released The Lion King. It
brought in a million dollars this week? Yeah, that's just cheap. That's
just a cheap play. That's justlike free money. It's like, let's
just throw it back in theaters thissummertime. Yeah, somebody will go see
it. Now, see the Horizonmovie that did so bad that they've canceled
Horizon too. Well, they didn'tcancel it, they postponed it. I
thought they they postponed a damn nearing. Definitely. No. I thought that
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they weren't going to try to releasethe next one in theaters, so it
was supposed to go direct to streaming. Well, the last that I read
was that they wanted to give thisfirst one more of a chance to be
seen by people, and so theypushed off the second one. They want
people to see this on streaming onmax on. I won't. I really
want to see it, and Ifeel bad that I didn't go and see
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it in the theater, But nowthat I know it's going to be hidden
streaming soon, I'm not going to. It's hard for me to watch long,
dull movies. It was. Ittook me like three different sittings to
watch Doom Part two. I stillhaven't bothered because the first one was such
a snoozer. It's kind of likethe second part of that Zack Snyder abomination
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that's on Netflix. Why would Iput myself through a part two if the
first one sucks. I'm telling youpart two. I don't care what Tawalla
says. He's wrong. It's worsethan part one. And that took me
like five sittings, no exaggeration,short, every hour counts. I couldn't
get through it. It was sobad. Yeah, it was streaming bad.
Your Horizon movie. They say it'spulled from theaters, so it's not
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coming out August, and at thistime the film remains unclear when it will
ever come out. Well, that'stoo bad. I love Westerns, and
I'm kind of I'm ambivalent about Costner, but I think he knows how to
make a decent movie. Yeah,I think he does. It's just that
me personally, I don't like long, slow plotting movies. Not not any
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of the Lord of the Rings movies, none of them. I just there's
a lot of walking and talking.I don't need three hours of that.
That's honestly part of what's kept mefrom seeing it in the theater, because
you got to spend like a halfa day just to see this movie.
And as we get older, Iget crankier and crankier about movies that are
over two hours, Like you couldn'tdo this in two hours or ninety minutes?
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Really well, not only that,I got to go to the bathroom.
You know it's three hours. Yeah, I forgot to mention your prostate.
I'm sorry. Thank you. Atleast I care about my prostate even
if you don't know. We alldo. Thank you. That wasn't funny.
It wasn't a joke. It's astatement of fact. I'm gonna start
making most prostate or regular feature ofmy weekly reviews. No, no,
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it was making an appearance. It'snot going to stay. It's not going
to be a regular feature. Well, it'll be subtext in all of them,
whether or not you pick up onit. Later with mo Kelly,
we're going to talk about Atari SummerCamp when we come back KFI AE six
forty Like everywhere in the iHeartRadio appyou're listening to Later with mo Kelly on
demand from KFI AM six forty Atari. We all know it's one of the
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world's most iconic consumer brands and interactiveentertainment producers in the world. They announced
earlier that there is open enrollment forAtari Summer Camp, which is an eight
week online celebration of retro gaming andeverything nineteen eighties. And that's just perfect
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for someone who's gen X like me, and anyone can join during the camp
season by signing up at Atari dotcom. And I have to ask this
question, Elmer, you were bornin the late twentieth century ninety two?
Do you have any memory of anAtari console? I never owned one,
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but like I know of them,Mark, he knows of them. He's
never laid his hand on an Atariconsole. Wow. There are partner events
and virtual field trips which will beannounced with the course of the four two
week sessions. They also include specialactivations Coinbase, Nifty Island, roller Coaster,
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Tycoon, and more. Participants willlog into a personalized Atari club page
and gain access to a camp portalmodel after an Atari st desktop that is
hosted by an AI Camp director,Old Meeting. New programming will take place
in Discord, social media, andseveral immersive partner platforms. If you're on
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the net, you know what allthat means. There's going to be a
mix of virtual and IRL in reallife. Activities will be revealed over the
eight week camp including high score competitions, scavenger hunts, creative projects, trivia,
and special apparel and accessory drops.Let me just ask you this.
Can you really call it a summercamp? If it's eight weeks long,
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that sounds like a semester, Thatsounds like a chore. I don't want
to do anything for eight weeks.Nah, you're not a gamer, though,
that's true. That's true. Ihaven't been a gamer since I played
an Atari. I never had anAtari, but I played Atario with my
friend across the street. I hadin a television. Yeah, Elver's making
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me feel ancient here. I actuallyhad in my swinging Bachelor Pat and Seattle
a Donkey Kong cocktail machine. Ican't go wrong. No, I feel
like two hundred years old now thoughwell it was only like fifty years ago,
so yeah, that was fresh forall of us. But my son
would have been into this, likewhen he was younger, he would probably
wanted to attend some rather than goingto an actual camp. As much as
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he's into gaming, he would haveloved something like this. And as you
know, the Atari Summer Camp isinspired by the Atari operated computer camps from
aspiring programmers that ran in the nineteeneighties, the camps blended a comprehensive computer
education and programming curriculum with a moreadditional camp experience including social activities, sports,
swimming, music, and arts.So it's not just programming and playing
games. There's a there's a degreeof physicality with it. There's a full
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uh. The Atari Club is anexpression of Atari's history, it's present,
and its future. It's a nexusfor connecting with fans and partners and together
exploring Atari and collaborating on future projects. And here's another example. We talked
about this before. Usually the companywhich has the first success doesn't have the
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lasting success. When you think abouta home gaming console, Atari was it.
It was the first one, andit was huge, and then it
disappeared. Don't forget Pond Well,but that was a game. When I'm
talking about a console where you hadcartridges and cassettes in the way that changed
the way that we had We leftthe physical arcade and could play versions of
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arcade games at home. Oh mygod, it was like we were living
in the future. Are you kidding? It was the best of times and
the best of times. There wasno downside to it at all, even
though the graphics were prehistoric. Theywere two dimensional basic blocks and bricks,
but it made the most out ofit. Also, Donkey Kong was really
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hard. Pac Man I found youcould get some expertise and make a quarter
go for a while. Oh yeah, but I mean the stand up vertical
arcade games. There was no replacingthem, but you still could have that
fun playing games and versions of themat home. Like you had a missile
command in the arcade and you hada missile command on Atari. Oh those
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are also hard missile command. Togive you a breakdown, Well, I
hated some of those games because nomatter what you were going to lose,
it was just a matter of time. You always be an Asteroids. Whatever
you were gonna lose, you're onlygonna get but so High Galaga, you
were gonna lose. That was myfrustrating There was like you never got to
a boss level where you won thegame. Twenty six hundred did that though.
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The twenty six hundred when when itstarted getting more and more advanced,
that is what what kept us outof the arcade is when the game stepped
up and the graphics started looking good. That is when it was next Level
fifty fifty two hundred yes, yes, that that's when it was like,
okay, Pitfall and right, youknow dig Doug all the drag and dragons
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like stuff like that was like,that's next level for us. Dig Doug
also pretty hard. In fact,I'll admit this as a fully grown adult,
I went on a dig Dug thinglike last year, and I wouldn't
quit until I reached a certain score. That game is not easy, but
a Cubert. I hated Cubert.Cubert is tough too and irritating. I
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liked Defender, especially on Atari andin the Arcade and also Zaxxon. Oh
you may not remember Zaxon. Youplay that. It was like a three
dimensional game where you're trying to fly, almost like to these Tetris type openings.
It was really hard, but therewas a reasonable version of it on
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Atari, and yeah, it wasgreat. It was great back then.
There's no way that kids today wouldlook at that. It's like you actually
spent time play because it was ridiculouslyprehistoric. But yeah, and it's weird
because for as much as I playedcomputer games back then, I don't have
any desire to do them now.My computer games are other things now.
I like doing other things with mytime. I feel like I'm wasting time
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just playing games. I have nogames on my phone zero. I just
don't play games now. I don'tmind like stat games that are kind of
running in the background, like fantasyfootball, those types of things, I
don't have to devote a lot oftime and it can just kind of do
its own thing. But to sitthere and be a captive audience to a
game for three or four hours ata time, no, can't do it.
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Well, that's what happens. I'llget wrapped up in a game and
I'll lose a couple of days,four days days, yes, And at
the end of that, I'll think, what do I retain of this?
What is this worth? It's notlike reading a great book or seeing a
couple of great movies. It's justkind of done when it's done right.
And I never developed that gene inadulthood, Like I never got into the
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whole Xbox Sony PlayStation, none ofthat. And the games are tremendous.
They are wowsers as far as thecapabilities and functionality, and I could admire
them, but I have no desireto play them none. Well, I
still play those first and third personshooters but at a certain point they're all
the same. See, and Inever got into the shooters never. I
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like the games like Wizardry, therole playing games. You'd have attributes and
you could put together teams of people. But that was it. Those are
the games that appealed to me andthat grew out of the I would say,
the beginning computer revolution and BBS bulletinboard systems, not the cartridge games
of the of the Atari years.So you don't have a console at home.
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I hadn't. I had in television. But now you don't know now,
Mark, you're a gamer. Nowyou game currently right now, not
as much as I used to.I only have a PS four. I
don't have a five. There yougo, there it is. I only
have a four, not a five. I don't have the latest console nothing,
all right, I don't have thetime for a PS anything, PS
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prostage for you, right, Okay, fair enough? Call back? Okay
if you open your mouth any widerwhen you do that, your teeth are
gonna fall right out. Come on, no, so they you can't be
goaded into a rim shot. Whatthe hell is wrong with you? Him?
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Scold you like that, he's notyour boss. Just later, with
Mokelly. Can if I answer sportedwith love everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
And we have a NASA update.They're investing in our rocket that could get
humans to Mars and back in twomonths, two months, be home in
time for dinner. You're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty. Growing up asa kid, I loved space exploration,
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the idea of it. I wasa Space Shuttle kid. I was too
young to remember the Apollo missions.I got to see all of the Space
Shuttle missions and the development of theSpace Shuttle. But we didn't go anywhere.
We didn't go to the Moon,we didn't go to Mars, we
didn't go anywhere cool. We justkind of launched, you know, rotated
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the Earth a few times, andthen we came back and landed. I
wanted us to explore, explore fartherout into the reaches of space space.
But the but the difficulty was thatwe did not technologically have the propulsion available
to do it. To get toMars would mean an extended trip in which
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astronauts would be exposed to ungodly amountsof radiation, and it probably would be
a one way trip. It wouldtake too long to get to Mars and
unlikely that they would be able toget astronauts back. So up until now
it's been a fool's errand in thatregard more imagination than anything. And if
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we could ever develop the propulsion sideand get astronauts to and from Mars quicker
than Mars becomes more of a likelydestination. Now there is the pulsed plasma
rocket, which in theory could propela ship up to one hundred thousand miles
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per hour. NASA has invested sevenhundred and twenty five thousand dollars, which
is a paltry sum, but they'veinvested about three quarters of a million dollars
in a new rocket system that,if it does as advertise, could solve
one of the major obstacles in regardto sending humans to Mars, just trying
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to shorten the travel time. Currently, a round trip to Mars would take
almost two years, a year thereand a year back. All that radiation
exposure in between, there's not enoughshielding. All that radiation in between most
likely would kill you just on theway there. There's solar radiation, there's
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cosmic radiation, there's the harmful effectsof zero gravity, the isolation being in
that small tube or whatever it isfor a year each way, and then
there's just the i would say,the harsh elements of the Mars atmosphere.
It's least likely, it's very unlikelythat astronauts would survive the journey, much
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less survive Mars because space radiation isthe biggest threat astronauts who spend just six
months in space I'm saying in spacelow orbit, not actually traveling anywhere,
but just low orbit, they areexposed to roughly the same amount of radiation
as one thousand chest X rays onethousand just sitting up on the space station.
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It's almost like if you go tothe International Space Station and spend a
good six months there, you havemore than quadrupled your risk for cancer or
nervous system damage, bone loss,heart disease. And that's just a short
list of staying in space. Becausewhen you're in space, you don't have
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the benefit of the protection of ouratmosphere, which usually blocks out most of
the cosmic in space radiation. Inspace, you're just out there and you're
just just sucking it all in.But if you get to Mars, quicker,
less time, there's less exposure tothat radiation instead of the two year
journey. But about this new technology, it would be another twenty years before
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this technology could be fully developed,tested and actually put into use. Twenty
years, so that makes Mark Ronnerabout eighty seven by the time this is
actually a real thing. If Ican hear you in here, oh,
I'm sorry, just making sure thatyou're listening. Well. This new propulsion,
theorized propulsion system. It uses pulsesof superheated plasma to generate tremendous levels
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of thrust and it's currently in phasetwo of development and it's funded by a
NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts Program. ThePhase two study is scheduled to begin this
month and is focused on optimizing theengine design, performing proof of concept experiments,
and designing a PPR powered shield shita spaceship for human missions to Mars.
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And this will probably be something forElma's children or grandchildren, not for
you of me. Mark, Well, but who doesn't like tremendous levels of
thrust? Though, honestly, Elbert, no, that's just a double ententent.
That's not like intimidate. You don'thave to do that I would say
this most technology is beyond our years. I think the next major advancement in
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thrust is probably beyond our lifetimes.We're not going to reach interstellar light speed
anytime soon. That way, atyour age, you're never going to have
an advancement in thrust. No,there we go. Goodness, gracious,
it's about time. Yes, well, they're they're estimating if everything were to
work as theorized, this spacecraft carryingfour people or six people could travel roughly
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one hundred thousand miles per hour,and the PPR rocket would have to slow
down significantly to enter orbit. Sothat's the thing, you know, when
you have one hundred thousand miles anhour in speed, you have to develop
some sort of space break to slowdown. Yeah, physics don't work the
way you see them in Star Wars. No, not at all. It's
not like you can just slow downand break and hit that curve like they
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do in Star Wars. You can'thave a dog fight. You don't hear
your stuff. No, you don'thear stuff. You don't hear the lasers
in the shooting and explosions, noneof that. The Star Wars has never
really been big on actual science oh, Star Wars is fantasy. Star Trek
is science fiction. Yeah, theclosest thing I would say to science as
far as movies go. And twothousand and one Interstellar was pretty good.
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I'm not so sure I agreed withthe whole bookcase thing, but the ending
was. It was great until theygot to the third act. Put it
that way. Yeah, character motivations, none of it made sense. Way,
mate, You're gonna leave your daughterthat you were trying the whole movie
to get back to, who's getold and getting ready to die, to
chase after this chick who's on theother side of the galaxy, who doesn't
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even like you, who's obsessed aboutsome other astronaut who died on said rock
on the other side of the galaxy. And you can just take a spaceship
on a joy ride. Just pickone, just pick one, and just
take one from the hangar and go, and gonna leave all the new family
members that you never met. Inother words, your daughter, her children,
her grandchildren, great great grandchildren.They had all of a conversation of
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four minutes, and he was outchasing some ass. You didn't see Neil
Armstrong doing that, not at all. And he was a real American hero,
not Matthew McConaughey, He's a fakeAmerican hero. It's Later with Mo
Kelly. We'll check you in withGeorge Norri Coast Coast AM. In just
a moment k IF I Am sixforty. We are live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app k IF I Am sixforty. It is Later with Mo Kelly,
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Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.Coming up in just a few moments
will be Coast to Coast AM withGeorge Norri, who joins me right now
on the line. Good evening,sir, What a weekend. Mo huh.
That's one way to describe it.It's one thing to experience things in
real time, but it's it's likethe world is speeding up in a way
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which I can can't even comprehend.In our lifetime, we have been through
so much stuff, haven't we.It seems like history moved at a snail's
pace in comparison. Anyway. Onthe show tonight, after our News of
the day, which we will coverthe big story of course, we're going
to talk about forbidden archaeology. Thenlater on a little walk on the Paranormal
side on Coast to coast. Allright, I'll be sure to be tuning
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in on the way home, sir. Thanks Mom, And before we get
out of here, just want toremind you if there's anything that you missed
a part of tonight's show. Let'ssay you want to pick up your horoscope
and didn't hear it, or youwant to hear my thoughts about the Trump
assassination attempt. You didn't hear meobviously on Saturday or Sunday, and you're
curious what I thought about it.You can check that out on the podcast.
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It was the full first hour ofthe show where I laid out where
I was, what I thought inthe moment, what we've learned since the
larger debate about rhetoric and political violence, what path we're on now, what
the future may hold. I addressall of that. I talked about how
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what may look like as the eventualwinner of the presidential race right now?
If you look at history, itcould go either way. Sometimes we get
a little ahead of ourselves. Twentysixteen was a perfect example. Nineteen sixty
eight was another example. And Idraw those parallels if you want to check
that out. That's all in thepodcast. That Tall Sharp producer of the
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program is putting together right now,and as I was just talking to George
Norri talking about the incredible times thatwe're living in. I'm a student of
history. I love history. Ilove looking at the present through the lens
of history. What comparisons can bemade, what parallels are there, what
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can we learn from previous events whichwere similar to what we're appearencing right now.
And even though there are some parallels, nineteen sixty eight is obvious parallel,
there's really nothing like the times we'rein at this moment, and we
probably won't have the right words toexplain it or the perspective to best understand
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it for another twenty thirty years.You usually have to go way down the
road and look back to best understandwhat is happening in this moment. I'm
sure similar words were said in nineteensixty eight, given the unrest in the
country, given the assassinations, theriots, the political acrimony. From what
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I understand, it took a goodtwenty years or so well into the nineteen
eighties to best understand how much tumultwas going on in nineteen sixty eight.
And mind you, that's after theCivil rights struggles of the Voting Rights Act
and the Civil Rights Act. That'safter the Human miss crisis. I tell
you America was a mess in thenineteen sixties, but you can make an
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apt comparison to America in the twentytwenties as far as the amount of dysfunction
that we are dealing with on adaily basis, the inability to seemingly get
the easy stuff right when it comesto elections or basic getting along. Everything
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is a congressional inquiry. Everything isa fight on Capitol Hill. Nothing is
easy. We have a dispute abouteverything from Christmas to Starbucks, to children's
entertainment to education. We can't agreeon anything, and I'm quite sure people
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will say it was because of theDemocrats. So some people will say because
of the Republicans. I'll let youall fight that out. Honestly, I'm
tired and really, really tired ofwhat America is right now. And I
was talking to a younger person whowas asking, like, what I thought
about this, Because if you're notover the age of twenty twenty five,
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you have no reference point, youhave no perspective. What you're going through
now is normality. This is whatyou expect this is what you know.
This is all you know. Youknow what's happening on Capitol Hill. You
expect that that gridlock, that's whatit is, that's always what is going
to be. And I remember atime it wasn't like that. In the
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nineteen eighties. You may have hadRonald Reagan as president, but you also
had Tip O'Neil as a Speaker ofthe House, and somehow, some way,
they managed to get things done,they managed to move the country forward.
And those days seem so long ago. I don't know if we'll ever
get back to that. But Iwas speaking to a young person and trying
to tell them that what's happening rightnow is not always like it used to
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be, and I don't know ifwe'll ever get back to that point.
I don't know what you think ofthis moment, mark, but they're oftentimes
when I'm very dissuaded and pessimistic aboutwhether will successfully navigate this moment without decapitate,
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to capitate decapitating ourselves in the process. Yeah, I can't say I'm
exactly becoming more of an optimist aswe go through these things. But you
mentioned wanting to keep an eye onhistory and I'm totally on the same page
as you when it comes to that, and as much of a grotesque cesspool
of disinformation that Twitter is, Ipick close attention to historian Twitter. Yes,
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some historians I follow. Kevin Cruzisn't on there anymore, but he's
terrific, and he's probably not onthere because it's turned into such a sesspool.
Timothy Snyder is another good one tofollow. But just look at history
and Twitter, and they have It'snot opinion. These are experts who know
history and will tell you what we'regoing through now, what it was embols,
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and you know the degree to whichyou should be alarmed what people have
done in the past. It's veryinstructive to me. Well, let me
put it this way. And Iknow you are acting in a news capacity,
so I know you choose your wordsvery wisely. I don't have to
choose them wisely. I always sayhistory doesn't necessarily repeat itself, but it
damn sure rhymes. There are somereal reminiscent moments, rhetoric occurrences which are
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happening right now, and you onlybest appreciate that when you have the historical
foundation to recognize it. If youhaven't studied it, then you're not going
to recognize it. It's not goingto seem eerily similar unless you know to
what it's similar to. That's exactlyright. Ruth ben Giott is another one
too, and she's yeah, she'sa good one, an expert on totalitarianism
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authoritarian governments. And I just youknow, it takes somebody pretty talented to
make history come alive for you.And I was lucky enough to have a
couple of professors shout out to LeroyAshby here who really were good at stringing
things together and making you understand thesignificance of how A ultimately led to Z.
And this is a good time tostudy that stuff, to read that
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stuff. And boyd, when stuffis happening at the intensity and speed that
things are happening now, it hardlyseems like homework. It seems like you're
arming yourself to prepare to understand whatwe're going through in this moment. Yeah,
And it's never about today. It'snever about what happened today, what
happened yesterday. There's a progression.There is a series of events which led
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up to a certain moment or acertain politician or a certain occurrence, like
going back to the assassination tempt onPresident Trump, it wasn't just what happened
on Saturday. There was a lotof stuff which led up to it.
And I'm not talking about in theconspiracy sense. I'm not talking about in
the shooter's life. I'm talking aboutthe totality of society. You know,
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the violence that we see perpetrated onSaturday is not new. And if we're
going to talk about violent rhetoric,we have to talk about gun violence in
America. We have to talk aboutall these things which are happening simultaneous to
what happened on Saturday. And althoughwe don't want Saturday to ever happen again,
it probably will happen again because wefully embrace violence and violent rhetoric in
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America, and we don't have thatconversation. We're too busy talking about condemning
the Democrats for what they said onTuesday and not talking about what has been
said for the past two years,the past four years, and the things
which have happened that you were okaywith. But since it didn't happen to
your preferred candidate or your preferred party, then it's no big deal. Like
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I said in the first segment,a lot of folks were laughing at Paul
Pelosi getting hit with a hammer.Don't think I forgot, And those same
people are saying today, oh mygosh, we need to tone down the
rhetoric. Rhetoric, really really.There are a lot of self appointed hall
monitors that I've seen, and I'vebeen doing as much reading, watching,
listening as I possibly can, andthey almost convey that it's impolite to bring
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up things that we know in therecent passage. Yes, don't ever let
anyone tell you to do that,ever, because the opposite is true.
Right now, we need to bemindful of what's gone before, and you
just can't have an honest discussion aboutthis stuff unless you bring everything into it.
Well, but see, the thingis, you're presupposing that people want
to have an honest discussion. Idon't think so. I think people want
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to be politically right, small rin the moment so they can win an
argument on Twitter, on social media, not actually getting to the heart of
the matter. If you're only worriedabout political violence since Saturday, I can't
take you seriously. No, it'sa form of gas lighting, intimidation,
bullying. You've got to put itinto the big picture. And anybody who
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tells you now is not a goodtime to talk about x Y or z
or politicized x Y or Z.Those aren't serious people. You shouldn't listen
to them, not at all.But you can listen to us. There
you go. Welcome back tomorrow,same time. Kf I am six forty.
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