The Global Tech Outage, Polluted California Beaches & A “Samurai Sword” Attack

ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the global tech outage disrupting systems around the world AND two of the most polluted beaches in California…PLUS – Thoughts on a deadly SoCal domestic dispute that allegedly involved a samurai sword - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

Episode Transcript

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Mister bo Keller here KF I amsix forty. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. It was seventeen yearsago. Seventeen years ago, John McLean
and a young hacker, they joinedforces to take down some master cyber terrorists
Thomas Gabriel played by Timothy Oliphant.Remember that Live Free or Die Hard?

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The movie was seventeen years ago.Sometimes they say that art is imitating life,
or art proceeds what happens in life. And I'm not saying today we
suffered a terrorist attack. I amsaying that if they wanted to do something
like that, it doesn't seem it'llbe too hard. All you need to
do is infect every Windows computer andyou will shut down the world. And

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what's worse, Yes, I'm talkingabout the outage today, which had repercussions
all around the world. The strangething for me is the call came from
inside the house. It wasn't ahacker, it wasn't a terrorist. It
was Microsoft's own security firm. Andas far as I know, it had

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to do with some software patch updatesomething something something YadA YadA, YadA,
blah blah blah, and all hellstarted to break loose. We're talking about
nine to one one services. We'retalking about airports, flights were grounded,
We're talking about sodom and gomorrah,cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria.

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Everything went to hell in a handbasket thanks to Microsoft's in how security
system. And it got me thinking, is this thin veneer of civilization that
thin? Is it that easy?And when I say easy, we're only
talking about a software patch update.We're not talking about some major brute force

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attack on our grid. Going backto Live Free, Diehard? Is it
that simple? Is it that precariouswhere the whole system could come crashing down
if one thing, one domino fell? And I was never a believer in
Y two K, but after toafter today, it makes me rethink about

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how precarious a time in which welive, since we're so dependent on technology.
It even affected us here. Wehad computers here at iHeartMedia. We're
not going to work at all dueto the dreaded Microsoft outage. Now I've
never been a Microsoft fan for reasonsjust like today, but because Microsoft is

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everywhere, it's almost impossible to avoidit in a personal or professional sense.
The computers here Microsoft, there's certainsoftware which is only Microsoft. Now.
You may love or hate Bill Gates, but he was smart enough to know
that if he could get in earlyon the computer revolution and making sure that
businesses would have to have PCs,they would be everywhere. And this is

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the end result of that. AndI was thinking about how much disruption we
were dealing with. And I'm notsaying that I believe or disbelieve everything which
is presented to us. I don'tbelieve that there was actually a terrorist.

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I'm not saying that I believe thatthere was some sort of outside influence.
I don't believe that we were attacked. But I don't necessarily believe that we
get all the information, especially whenyou're talking about vulnerabilities. I'm not gonna
tell us everything. They're not gonnatell us to what degree that we were
exposed. We're not gonna be toldexactly how much damage was actually done.

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But a reasonable person, I wouldlike to think of myself as a reasonable
person. A reasonable person could lookat today and be very very concerned about
our infrastructure. A reasonable person whenyou look at what has been happening in
Texas just because of Hurricane Beryl,and how that grid is still having problems.

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When you think about what happened todaywith airline travel, not just here
but around the world. We're talkingabout a global tech outage because one little
thing didn't go right, one littlething, And you think, well,
what happens if someone had bad intentions? What happens if someone looks at this

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as not only an opportunity but somethingto follow up on. Now I know
the conspiracy theorist will say, oh, we had a dry run today just
to see how much have it theycould wreak. Hey, oh maybe maybe
who knows? Who knows? ButI do know that a lot happened today,
that nobody was prepared for. Alot happened today, that nobody as

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of yet can give an adequate explanationfor. If I told you that I
bricked my computer because I just turnedit on today, you would say,
well, it shouldn't happen that way. You probably say, MO, there's
something missing from that equation. MO, there's something else that we must not
know. For you to just turnon a computer and it brick itself and

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you don't know that means to brickit means that it is unusable. The
nation basically bricked itself. That's mypoint. The nation came to a standstill
in a technological sense, from airportsfrom nine to one point one to all
sorts of services and businesses because ofsomething supposedly seemingly minor but had major implications.

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Will we get all the information?Probably not. I don't know,
because you can't tell exactly the worldhow you were vulnerable, to what degree
you were vulnerable, how much damagewas incurred because of that vulnerability. Cybersecurity
firm CrowdStrike said that the issue believedto be behind the adage was not a
security incident or cyber attack. Ohthat makes me feel better, But here's

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what really bothered me. They saida fix was on the way. What
do you mean on the way?What does that mean? You know,
when I tell you know how afriend tells you, it's like, hey,
are you on your way? Yeah? And you know what that means.
They're not on their way. Ifthey say what are you gonna get
here five minutes? That means thirtyfive? Where are you just around the
corner? No, that means milesand miles away. So when I read
that CrowdStrike is saying a fix wason the way, that means it's not

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exactly on the way. The companysaid the problem occurred when it deployed a
faulty update to computers running Microsoft Windows. Was just about means every computer in
every company, with exception of maybeadvertising where they use only Mac and Tosh.
The company's president and chief executive GeorgeKurtz, posted a message where on

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X because that's what we do,saying the issue was not a cyber attack
and has been fixed. Well,if it's been fixed, and why is
there a fix on the way,which is it? Which is it?
Because I look at some of thecomputers here, Twala, They're not back
to normal, are they? Idon't think there are, So that means
it has not been fixed. Thefix that is on the way has not
arrived. It's just around the corner. You know, they are only fifteen

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minutes away. I'm just somewhat cynical. There were reports that airports had been
beginning to start the service, butit was unclear when we would get back
to normal. Yes, flights haveresumed, but no, we are not
back to normal. He also addedthat the company system was completely shut down,
saying the resulting crippling of flight operationswas worse than nine to eleven.

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Did you hear that worse than nineto eleven. Maybe you're not old enough
to remember nine to eleven. Iam. I remember how the whole world
had come to a stop. Yes, we were more focused on the terrorism
aspect, but the disruption was alsovery significant. And if it was worse

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than nine to eleven, there isa parallel as far as why we should
be so very concerned. Yeah,I'm being a little bit flipping, but
I'm also being very serious. Becauseof a faulty patch as it's being described,
I don't know that's what it is. That's what we're told it is.
All this made him all this disruptionbecause of a faulty patch, and

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a fix was on the way,And it may be there where you are,
it may be to most places.Planes are now flying, so yes,
it is getting out there, butit's not everywhere. We're not back
to normal yet. And if someonewith bad intentions was really paying attention,
and they are and they are,don't be surprised if you should see this

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or something similar to it again inthe future. How many times have we
seen airport disruptions because of software issues? Air quotes, be it Southwest Airlines
or Los Angeles International airport or someother airport. How many times are we
dealing with software issues, not terrorism, software issues. We are primed to

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have our infrastructure attacked, and itdoesn't seem like doesn't seem like we're ready
at all. It's Later with moKelly caf I AM six forty live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. When wecome back, we have to have a
quick update on the Democrats, onthe Republicans, the state of the presidential
race, and what the Democrats planto do with President Joe Biden and what

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President Joe Biden plans to do withhimself. You're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixforty. I got to tell you Democrats
of not having a real good monthof July, not at all. But
it's not insurmountable. Nothing is forever. What has been happening is not determinative,

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as I say, it's influential.It could have a great impact on
how this presidential election and also downballot races may turn out. But it's
momentum, it's not an outcome.And I talk to people all the times
like there are other times in historywhere one party has been really behind in
the presidential race and then come backand win. We can look at nineteen

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sixty eight where we had Hubert humphHe was up by I want to least
say five or six points in July, right before the election. He had
I would say, the political benefit. Let me be clear, I'm not
saying it was a benefit, butI'm saying he had the win. That
is back from an emotional standpoint becauseof the assassinations of Robert F. Kennedy

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and Martin Luther King Junior. Thosetwo incidents propelled the Democrats into the convention,
and they were leading in the polls, had public sentiment and public sympathy.
Hubert Humphrey ended up losing by morethan one hundred and ten Electoral College
votes. You can talk about howBarack Obama was trailing in twenty twelve by

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I want to say, five orsix points in October, still ended up
winning the election. We can talkabout any number of elections. We had
Hillary Clinton who was leading by doubledigits and then she and double digits around
right about now in July of twentysixteen and then ended up losing that election.

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All sorts of examples of what yousee and what you feel in July
doesn't mean that the election itself isgoing to turn out a certain way.
But the Democrats are panicked. Theyare running around with the heads cut off
like the proverbial chicken, because they'rereading the tea leaves and they see that

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if what is happening today were tohold, Donald Trump would be elected president
once again. And they see withthe numbers regarding Joe Biden, if he
were to continue to be the nominee, that most likely he loses. The
state data and the battleground states,the national polls all point to Donald Trump

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likely winning. And it's one ofthose things where, well, we're not
going to see a better Joe Biden, or at least most people don't believe
that a better Joe Biden between nowan election. And it's not just me
saying that. Some thirty Democrats havecome forward and said publicly. When I
said publicly, we're not even talkingabout the people who are behind the whisper
campaigns privately, I'm just talking aboutpublicly come forward and said they want Joe

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Biden to step aside. Now stepdown the step aside and have the party
dominate someone else. And I've saidthis before, so I need to remind
folks it's it's not that simple.It's not that simple, because you risk
alienating the Democratic base. There aresome fourteen million people who voted for Joe
Biden during the primaries who affirmatively saidthey want Joe to be the nominee for

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better for worse, they chose him, and also by choosing him, they
were choosing Kamala Harris because they werevoting on the ticket to remain as a
vice presidential candidate. And if youwere to remove Joe Biden, you would
be saying to the Democratic voters yourvotes during the primaries didn't matter. And

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then the party elites, quote unquote, the influencers, the people who have
a lot of pool from Nancy Pelosito Haakim Jeffries to Barack Obama, maybe
even Hillary and Bill Clinton. You'resaying that the small group of people are
wielding undue influence and you could switchout a nominee because they're afraid that the

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person that people voted for can't win. And that may be true, it
may be true that Joe Biden can'twin at this point, but you can't
then say, well, we're justgoing to disregard the primaries and just choose
someone else at the convention. Imean you could, you could, the
party bylaws allow for that, butthe consequences of that means that you most

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likely would piss off the Democratic coalitionin such a way where they revolt against
the party or they stay home orboth. There's a question of do you
have someone leap frog over Kamala Harris, because remember she's a sitting vice president
and the understanding is if the presidentcan't continue for whatever reasons, America had

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chosen Kamala Harris's vice president to succeedthe sitting president. And if you within
Democratic circles voted for Joe Biden KamalaHarris and you see them leapfrog someone over
Kamala Harris and you don't have herbecome the nominee again, all hell breaks

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loose in the coalition fractures. Oryou could look at it another way.
If you have Joe Biden step asideand then put his thumb on the scale
and say I want Kamala Harris tosucceed me and she didn't go through the
primary process at the top of theticket. That's going to leave Democratic voters
in as they say, feel insome kind of way. And then there's

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the money aspect of all this.We're not sure how it plays out,
but we're pretty sure that the onehundred and twenty seven million dollars DOUS was
donated to the Biden Harris campaign isonly available to a ticket which has either
Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or both. And if you remove Joe and you

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remove Kamala Harris, then that onehundred and twenty seven million dollars reverts back
to the donors and it may notcome back. And we can't win elections
in America, regardless of your politicalstripes without money. Thank you, Citizens
United, No money, no election. So that's what the Democrats are dealing
with. And I talked about thislast week and I was kidding Mark Ronner

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because I called it the Kobayashi Maru, which is a Star Trek reference,
of course, and that's the nowin scenario. And for me, that's
the only way I can describe it, because the Democrats are having to choose
between the best of bad options.I say bad options because you never want
to change your candidate at the lastsecond. That's never a great idea.

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And if let's say you want tochange the candidate for gret You Whitman.
I'm talking about names have been bandiedabout a Gretcha Whitmer or a Gavin Newsom.
Those people do not have the nationalname recognition or the backing that the
Biden Harris campaign does. You wouldbe starting over in literally August for a

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November election. That is a badoption. We can argue that Joe Biden
continuing as the candidate, the presidentialcandidate, would be a bad option given
what the polling says. And wedon't know about his health status. He's
been diagnosed with COVID, Well,what does that mean? Does he have

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long COVID? Does that keep himoff the campaign trail for three weeks?
Does it keep him off the campaigntrail for four weeks? If you've ever
had COVID or long COVID, itcan stick with you for months. And
also it can be much much moresevere for someone who's over the age of
eighty. That's just the name ofbeing older. The simple even a simple

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cold, can do all sorts ofdamage to an elderly person. These are
all options, all of them suboptimal, and the Democrats have to choose the
best available option. For a situationwhich it doesn't only impact the president and
vice president. We're talking about downballot races. This could impact whether they

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have any chance of retaking the House. This could impact whether they lose the
Senate. In a worst case scenario, the Democrats could lose the Oval Office,
not get back the House, andlose the Senate. And for all
the talk about Project twenty twenty fiveand all the talk about what Donald Trump
would do in a second term,well if the Democrats lose out on everything,

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they would be completely incapable of mountingany type of defense on any Republican
or Donald Trump agenda. The thingsthat the Democrats are worried about they have
to concern themselves with. And alsoeven if they Donald Trump, if you
were to be re elected and wereto put forth some executive action or executive

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decision that some way find unconstitutional,well they can run it up the ladder
to a Supreme Court, which isgoing to rubber step anything. He says.
These are the considerations that the Democratsare going to have to make.
And I don't know what they're goingto do. I heard all the public
reports just like you have, thatJoe Biden may step aside this weekend.

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I don't know that that is goingto happen. We can talk about the
negative momentum which is being generated againsthim, where more and more politicians have
come out and said he needs tostep aside. We can talk about the
published reports about how supposedly his familyis sitting with Joe right now trying to
decide about how they will move forwardand gracefully bow out. I don't know

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if any of that's true. Itmay be just wishful thinking. And if
you've been around politics long enough,you know that certain things are put in
the press to put pressure on someonein the hopes that they'll do something,
not a report of what they're actuallyintending to do. This is all what
the Democrats are dealing with this weekend. We'll have some more clarity next week,

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but don't be surprised that President JoeBiden does not get out of the
race. For a number of reasons. They're just bad options and the Democrats
will have to make a decision.You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on
Demand from KFI A six forty.Let's go to the beach, or maybe
we shouldn't go to the beach.You know, we've been detailing how absolutely

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putrid our beaches have been, andnow there is more evidence to quantify just
how dirty La County beaches are.Specifically, in fact, two La County
beaches are among the most polluted inall of California. And that means we
need to find out who else ison the list of the most polluted beaches

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here in California or close to Californiacoming in at number ten of the most
polluted beaches as part of Heal theBay's list, and Heal the Bay monitors
more than six hundred beaches along theWest coast coming in at number ten,

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and it's not actually California, butclose enough. Alfaro, Baja Mexico,
number nine, Marina del Rey Mother'sBeach, which is in La County,
Yes, of the most polluted beachesalong the West coast California, coming in

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at number eight. Field State Parkand that's in San Diego County. San
Diego checking in number seven of themost polluted beaches here in California. Hey,

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San Diego County. Back to back, Imperial Beach at Seacoast Drive coming
in at number six, Lake ShorePark in San Mateo County. All right,
number five. Linna mar Beach,San Mateo County, back to back

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number four. Never heard of thisbeach, probably pronouncing it wrong. Tijuana
Slough sloth Sluff, San Diego County, coming in at number three of the
most polluted beaches here in California.Oh, this one is very close to

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my heart. Santa Monica Pier,La County, Santa Monica Pier is a
great place to go shopping, greatplace to go walking. Not so sure
I would ever go into water foranything in Santa Monica Pier coming in at
number two. Playa Blanca in BajaMehico White Beach, That's what it means.

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And coming in at number one ofthe most polluted beaches here in California.
Just in case you wanted to getinto the water this weekend, because
as Mark Ronner said, it's gonnabe hat ha ha, And I know
you might be thinking about it.Why do I just go ahead and saunter
into the water. No, youdon't want to do that, especially not
at the number one most polluted beachhere in California. Tiawater river Mouth in

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San Diego County. I can saythat I haven't been to just about any
of these beaches on the beach.I've been to the Santa Monica Pier,
I've been to Marina del Rey Mother'sbeach, But no, I haven't actually
been in the water. Elma,What was the last time you were actually
in the water at the beach?Actually, I've been avoiding it because last

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time I was at work here therewas a story about the water being dirty.
Yes, we probably did it.Yeah, so like the last two
times I've been to the beach,I've avoided the water because of that.
But that was this summer. Butwhat about previous summers? Yeah, I
mean I'm not I'm not a strongswimmer, So I'm not going to jump
in the water. Oh not evenfrom the Dominican Republic. I can get

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in, but like after the waste, you know, like chess, I'm
not going to go further. Didyou ever have formal swimming lessons? I
did not. Okay, let merecommend you hang out with Mark Ronner.
He's a lifeguard. He could probablyhelp you out or try to save your
ass when you start drowning, oneof the two. So I'll take that
off. I'm here to help.Yes, have you taught anyone how to

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swim? Mark seriously. No,Well, no, I was. I
spent a couple summers as a childswim team coach while I was in college.
Okay, when I was a lifeguard, but that really doesn't count.
It was more like daycare and arguingwith karen parents. Yeah, I've never
taught anyone how to swim, butI just remember from taking swimming lessons.

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It's a difficult thing to do withany kid over the age of maybe seven
or eight, it is. AndI gotta tell you, I don't even
like swimming. I like the exercise, but swimming you can't feel yourself sweat,
you breathe hard, you start toswallow water. I hate swimming.
See, I don't just like swimming. In fact, I like it from
a rehab standpoint for injuries. Yeah, definitely some advantage, especially when you're

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old men like we are and allyour joints have been destroyed from sports over
the years. Yes, swimming isvery helpful in some things. But you
know, add in the fact thatyou're going to be dodging pooh in the
water here, I just can't recommend. No, no, no, I'm
not talking like a public pool ora public beach. I'm talking about it
like a swimming pool in my backyard. That's what I would want. I

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would like to be able to justwork out in a pool. Swim some
swim, some laps, do someside stroke, backstroke, deep stretching in
the pool, which is always goodon the body. That's all I would
want. Yeah, I've been alifeguard at a big a pool in the
terrible part of town where I hadto take knives away from kids. And

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I've been a lifeguard at a poolin the nice part of town where again
the Karens and not sure which oneI like better. Say, See,
I can't work a job if Idon't have a gun and I have to
take knives and stuff from people.I mean, otherwise, like a school
teacher, they have to do it. But you know, you know,
if you're in the moment and you'rehardwired, with enough training, you're not

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going to be that concerned about aknife with a kid. No, no,
no, it's not about being concerned. I'm just saying, it's just
one of those things where like putit this way, I confident I can
deal with a knife. I don'twant to deal with it at my job.
That's all I'm saying. So you'resaying I shouldn't draw down on you
here. I would hope that anyjob I go to, it should not

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be a reasonable expectation that I maybe confronted with a knife. Well,
times have changed since I was alifeguard, because I'd probably be dealing with
guns. Now you're be dealing withguns. Most definitely. That's why I
try to leave people alone. Younever know how bad a day someone is
having. You don't know how stupidsomeone is. You don't know how desperate
someone is, You don't know howpoor judgment someone may have. And for

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you, you would never think oftaking it there. They're just an idiot
and looking for a reason to takeit there. Oh, and the stakes
are so much higher on pretty muchevery interaction slash conflict you have. Like
if I were to yell at akid now, hey, you know,
cut out the jumping up and downon the diving board. Yeah, you
don't know if they'd come up behindyou later and be like what do you
say to me? Right? Becauseeverything is a confrontation. Yeah, everything

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is a confrontation. And for asmuch as I like verbal confrontations, I'm
not seeking out actual confrontation. Andsometimes life just puts it in front of
you and you have to deal withit. That's fine, whatever, But
it shouldn't be a confrontation when I'mat Target. It shouldn't be a confrontation
when I'm at the girlcery store.It should be a confrontation. When I'm

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trying to back into a parking space. Everything is a confrontation now. Everything
is up to a ten. Now. If we could just kind of take
it back to like a five orsix, that'd be great. But I
don't know how we're going to dothat. I don't know. See,
that's the thing. I don't know. It's almost it's like after you lose
that innocence, I don't know howyou work your way back to it.
Because we have generations of people oryoung people who've grown up believing that that

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is normal, and I don't knowhow you get away from that. Well.
One way is that we have acountry that's absolutely flooded in devices that
allow people act on their impulses immediatelyand irrevocably. And if you were to
regulate that a little bit more thanwe have, you wouldn't have to worry
about, you know, getting shotwhen you so much as looked at somebody

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The wrong way or gave them thefinger on the road. I'm wondering to
whom you're referring. So, inother words, take everyone's phone away and
kill the internet. Just just stayindoors, don't go anywhere, don't do
anything, just listen to the radio. Kind of like what you do.
You stay indoors and go anywhere andyou're on the radio. Yeah, yeah,
like a hobbit. That's I juststay in my hole. KFI AM
six forty we're live everywhere on theiHeartRadio app. And speaking of the violence

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that we see in everyday community,let's tell you about a deadly samurai sword
attack. You know, just anotherday in southern California. You're listening to
Later with Moe Kelly on demand fromKFI AM six forty. I'm not making
light of this. I think ithighlights the degree of violence here in California,

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Southern California. But when I lookat the headline and it says that
a domestic dispute in southern California endsin deadly samurai sword attack, I just
kind of nod my head and say, yeah, that pretty much makes sense.
This does look like some sort ofan argument between three female family members,
but at this point what caused itto turn violence suddenly we don't know,

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but the fact that the two survivorsonly speak Mandarin Chinese is slowing the
investigation. A woman walks along HuntingtonAvenue here in San Dimas with a sword
in her hand. Her legs appearto be cut, a trail of blood
behind her on the sidewalk. Sheriff'sdeputies, then, responding to what they
think is a rescue call, rollup on the woman near a rental van

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in the street and tell her todrop the sword. That female then directs
them to a residence on the street, where the deputies find an additional female
suffering also from lacerations, who waslater pronounced dead at the scene, and
as they continue through the residence,an additional female was found in the residence,
unharmed, who was also transferred toa local hospital due to a medical

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emergency. We understand that that mayhave been a heart attack, but what
prompted this deadly struggle between at leasttwo of what police are describing as Chinese
women is unknown. Preliminary investigations suggeststhere may be a family relation, but
again, because of the language barrier, we have not confirmed. That a
little bit uneasy because I don't knowwhat's going on. Local residents who were

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kept from returning to their homes nearthe crime scene are understandably shaken, shocked,
surprised. So, yes, itdoesn't happen in this neighborhood. I
mean you see it in the inthe news and other places, but just
shocked it happened so close. Noone else was wounded by the sword,
and detectives say there is no furtherthreat to this local community. Okay,

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you often hear that, you know, shocked. I can't believe that this
happened in this neighborhood. Is aquite nice, quiet neighborhood. YadA yah
yah blah blah blah uh until it'snot. My thing that stood out to
me is never in any community hasthere been a samurai sword attack. That's
not something that happens any When yousay I can't believe that happened in my

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community, like this happened somewhere else, Yeah, I know, Like,
yeah, I expect this to happenin South Central like they just walk around
with samurai swords all in the hood. What is being said here? Look,
when you want to deliver a personalmessage, then you would use a
samurai sword. You know, that'sreal, real personal. That's the only
thing that makes sense to me.You have a Samurai sword and there's family

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involved. Yeah, this sounds realill, real personal. I'm not going
to speculate on the who, what, why, where, when, and
how what led up to it?Who's at fault? But look, if
you're reaching for a samurai sword,there's anger behind that. It's not like
it's not like a weapon of opportunitythat was you went for that. That's

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like the family sword. Yeah,you know, like it's in the house,
it's prominently displayed, probably up onthe mantle. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah, you didn't go for akitchen knife. You didn't go for a
state knife. You went for asamurai sword because you're trying to maim and
disfigure, which is real, realpersonal nature. Or at least that's the
way I anticipated. That's the onlyway I could read it. Yeah,

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because look, if I were to, if I wanted to hurt someone in
that way, it's almost like,when we get the story, I know
it's going to have to be somebody'sman is in that some more relationship,
Someone cheated on somebody with a familymember. It has to be something that's
real personal. See. I tookit as maybe fighting over inheritance and someone

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went to go get grandfather's sword andI'll show you. Oh you think it's
money. Oh, I think it'sa relationship. Hmmm, Mark, what
do you think money? Relationship orsomething else? I think you guys have
watched too many cop shows on TV. Hey, audible is real. My
late friend Andrew Vax, the crimewriter, used to refer to Law and

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Order SVU as a sitcom. No, they're not real. I thought they
were based on like ripped from theheadlines. Okay, but this is real.
The samurai sword is real. Theviolence was real. It is,
but I think it's turned a lotof home viewers with no credentials or expertise
into like armchair. Oh it wasa bladed. It was a knife,

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So this means it was something personalbecause you have to be up close to
the person, you have to makeeye contacts. Well, that's what you
do. The bladed you can't killwith. The samurai saw it from across
the room. They didn't throw it. Yeah, we don't know. I'd
like to find out more about it, but as far as i'm concerned.
It's a mishone in the Walking Deadthing. Oh but we're making fun of

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that. Oh it's us. Itus is watching too much Law Order SVU
as you and the Walking Day.That's exactly right. If you stick to
the zombie shows, that'll answer allyour questions. Got it, CA If
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