July 22, 2024 • 31 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at what happens next after President Biden steps down AND the immediate impact of VP Harris stepping up to run in the 2024 Presidential election…PLUS – Thoughts on the House committee hearing with Secret Service Director Cheatle regarding the Trump assassination attempt - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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So did anything happen whiles away?Did I miss anything? Did the world
change? Did the Lakers make amajor trade or something? I feel like,
you know, things are real differentsince I last talked to you.
Okelly here k if I aim Sin'sforty we live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
What the hell happened this weekend?What the hell is going on in
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America? I go home Friday night, all hell breaks loose before I get
back on Monday. Again for thesecond consecutive weekend. It seems like I
better not go home Friday night.If I just stay here through the whole
weekend, nothing will change and everythingwill be okay. So once again,
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the world is upside down, exceptthis time, thank goodness, no one
got shot but President Biden. He'sstepping aside. Not to be confused with
stepping down Vice President Harris. She'snow trying to step up and obtain the
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nomination for the Democratic Party. Butyou all knew that. Here's something you
don't know already. Just because oftoday, the past twenty eight hours or
so, Vice President Harris has alreadyfund raised more than eighty five million dollars.
That's not including the ninety six million, which is estimated at this point,
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which will be available to her fromthe Biden slash Harris ticket campaign,
which was already fundraised. That's liketwo days worth. That's not including the
poll which just came out informal pollof Democratic super delegates and delegates, where
already Vice President Harris has enough informalpledge delegates to secure the nomination. No
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other Democrats at this point have triedto step forward and mount a challenge.
So it's going to be Vice PresidentHarris. It's not officially done deal,
but it's a done deal. Soyou can start wrapping your minds around the
idea of Vice President Harris against formerPresident Trump. What happens from here is
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anybody's guests. And I will sayagain, like I said two weekends ago,
like I said one week ago,I'm going to remind you, nobody
has any idea what the hell isgoing to happen between now and the election.
If someone says I know what's goingto happen, so and so is
going to win, no, you'rejust wishful thinking. You have no reason
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to know anything. The smartest mindsand politicians and campaign strategists in the world
are working high and low all nightlong trying to figure out how this is
going to turn out. And theywill tell you they have no idea.
There are too many variables. There'sno way to know what's going to happen.
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Remember how we talked about, ina general sense, the idea of
this twenty four hour news cycle.You had a twenty four hour news cycle,
but you didn't have twenty four hoursof news to fill that cycle.
Well that's not true anymore. Atleast for the past two weeks, we've
had twenty four hours of legitimate newswhich was breaking every single freaking day.
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And I don't know about you.I am exhausted. I am emotionally exhausted.
I woke up Sunday morning, Ithought, oh, it's just going
to be a typical Sunday day.I was going to go hang out my
wife, go see my mother,maybe a schedule a cruise, you know,
book of cruise. It was supposedto be a laid back Sunday.
And then by ten thirty I geta call from Spectrum News saying it's happened.
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President Biden is dropping out of therace. What And then from there
I was doing NonStop interviews, andthen I woke up this morning and I
had to go to Spectrum at sixthirty in the morning. That's how my
day started. Six thirty so Igot the Spectrum, did that interview.
You can see it. It's postedat mister mo'kelly on Facebook. It's on
my Instagram ad later with mo Kellyat mister mo Kelly. You can see
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it there. Did that interview.Then I had to go get ready to
do a live hit with Rogan andRodney for a five seventy. So we
talked about that at the Hollywood ParkCasino. So I was talking sports and
politics, presidential politics, the Dodgers, the Olympics. That was at two
o'clock today, and then I goton the freeway and drove another hour to
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get here. It seems like Idid a lot since the last time I
spoke to you. And I haveno idea where any of this is.
Just don't know. And you knowwhat the best part of it is,
that's okay, that's okay. Youjust kind of allow it to happen.
None of us can control it.There may be a debate, there may
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not be a debate. There maybe some skeleton which is going to fall
out the closet of one of thesecandidates or one of the vice presidential candidates.
We don't know who Vice President Harrismay choose as her running mate.
There is no conventional wisdom anymore.And I said this on Spectrum News.
The Democrats have turned their party upsidedown. The idea of an incumbent president
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stepping aside, stepping aside and announcinghe's not going to run literally months before
the election is unheard of, unprecedented. I know it's a word that we
use far too often. It's unprecedented. How the hell did that happen?
No one knows how we really gothere. We can blame this person or
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that person and say, oh,we knew all along. No you didn't,
No, you did not. Hedid not know that Joe Biden was
going to wake up on Sunday morningand say, whoop, just kidding,
I'm not gonna run. No oneknew that. Now you can think that
it was trending in that direction.I thought it was going to trend in
that direction. But he made itvery clear he was not going to get
out of the race. And sureenough he said, you know what,
I am getting out of the race. So who is Vice President Harris going
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to choose as her running mate.You've turned the party upside down, Democrats.
I think I think there's an argumentto be made that you go big.
What's the point of turning the partyupside down to maybe just lose,
respectively. Go big, push allyour chips into the center. And what
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I mean by that is, thisis the year where abortion is a huge
issue. This is the year inwhich women's reproductive rights is a huge issue.
This is a year in which theDemocrats are talking about Project twenty twenty
five and all the supposed rights whichwould be limited by it. Could you
imagine if the Democrats chose Michigan GovernorGretchen Whitmer as the vice presidential candidate.
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Could you imagine a ticket of twowomen, and you would put all of
those issues front and center and forceAmericans to deal with those issues right in
their face. And then you wouldhave independence and moderate women have to deal
with the possibility to be possibility orthe prospect of having not only a president
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but vice president at the same timeat the same time. Feel like Sally
Field the whole time, the wholetime, the whole time. If you
know that movie Missus doubtfire. Ifthe Democrats are to go big, this
is the time to go big.Or they can go to safe rout and
choose Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. Theycould go I don't know, Illinois Governor
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JB. Pritsker, They could goArizona Senator Mark Kelly, the astronaut.
Those are all safe picks. Iunderstand the strategy. But what happens?
Did the Democrats try to come offthe top row with an elbow like Jimmy
Superfly Snooker? That would change everythingfor all my wrestling fans out there.
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That was a deep cut. That'sa real deep cut. Mark Runner,
How you doing today? How wasyour weekend? I love any reference to
Jimmy's Superfly Snooker, especially if youhad on some rowdy roddy piper. Well,
come on, we had Hogan lastweek at the RNC. So everyone
needs to bone up on their wwF and their idiocracy. Right watch that
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movie. See that's another deep cut. How life is imitating art? It
is? It is insane and uncanny, how it is? I think last
week I messaged you that I waswaiting for the appearance of President Mountain.
Duke Camacho didn't. I, Yes, you did. Now everybody's in on
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the joke, and it wouldn't seemstrange at all, not at all.
Not in twenty twenty four. Weare so far through the looking glass.
It's Later with Moe Kelly k IMsix forty one Live. Everybody. iHeartRadio
app. I can barely contain myenthusiasm for all this is going on this
week. Oh my gosh, thewhole time, the whole time, whole
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time you're listening to Later with MoeKelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Elections they can be very complicated ifyou want to drill down on all
the variables, all the things whichcould happen, might happen, do happen,
and then you have to reevaluate,reassess, change your strategy and direction.
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That can be very complicated, butat their foundation they're really simple,
especially when you're talking about presidential elections. The Republicans the Democrats have one main
goal that they're trying to achieve,trying to put forth a candidate or a
ticket which excites their registered voters andmay pull some moderates, independence and some
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crossover from the other party. That'sit. If you can find a candidate
or ticket which excites the imagination ofyour party, there's a pretty damn good
chance you're going to win that election, because most elections are lost because of
apathy, because of people who arenot excited about the candidate or the issues.
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They don't feel like they're vote matters. They don't feel as if you
know, they're feeling as if they'revoting for the lesser of two evils.
How often do we hear that Idon't know and feel like I'm voting for
the lesser two evils. They arenot inspired, they're not enthusiastic. And
if you look at people who areshould say, election in which the base
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is excited, you'll have a turnoutof more than sixty two sixty three percent.
That's what you're looking for. Andif you have a tremendous turnout within
your party, well you're pretty assuredof winning your election in a national sense.
I know, the electoral college.Yeah, daha, blah blah blah
blah. I'm saying, on balance, if you can excite your party,
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you're halfway there because you won't haveto remind them when election day is.
You won't have to inform them onwhere their nearest polling place is because an
excited electorate will do all that bythemselves. That, in part is why
the RNC last week was so veryimportant talking about excitement, and why the
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fundraising in the past two days byKamala Harris has been so very important.
It's about excitement. It's about generatingthis energy and momentum that hopefully each party
or ticket can sustain into November.And part of the ground game the people
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who are gonna knock on your doorand call you on the phone and pull
you is to keep you focused onthe election, keep you excited. That's
the whole point of campaigning, andthat's the whole point of retail politics.
They want to make sure that youremain excited. It's a difficult job to
do. Why because we're in July, the election is in November. Do
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you know how much is going tohappen in your personal life between now in
November. Do you know what isgoing to happen on your job between now
in November? Do you know what'sgoing to happen with your kids? Are
going to be going back to school, You may be going back to school.
Do you know how much is goingto be different in November than right
now. Let me put it anotherway, you're almost two seasons away.
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You're knocking on the door of winter. Life for you right now is not
going to be like life in November. There are far too many things which
could get in the way, whichcan damp or tamp down your enthusiasm,
and that is the difficulty. KamalaHarris great enthusiasm out the gate, but
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let's not forget she had great enthusiasmand a great start to her presidential campaign
back in twenty twenty, and itfizzled out before she even got to the
first primary. It is a marathon, as they say it, damn sure,
ain't a sprint. So a greatRNC does not determine anything. A
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great week of fundraising and zoom callsthat we've heard about Kamala Harris does not
determine anything. And that's why Ialways try to tell people stay in your
shoes, slow down, calm down. For all the rah rah and all
the celebration last week at the RNC, doesn't I feel like a little bit
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more distant now? Doesn't that feellike a few weeks and maybe a month
away in terms of just the politicsof the moment. Doesn't it feel like
all that momentum that the rn Cgenerated, which you know, the R
and C ended on Thursday, It'sa brand new race come Monday, and
something could happen later on tonight,or something could happen tomorrow which could shift
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the momentum right back forward to theother side of the aisle. And it
will go back and forth, itwill vacillate. You have those periods in
which one party will own the newscycle and then the other party will own
the new cycle. We'll hear aboutthis poll, we'll hear about this snap
projection, and it'll say that Trumpis up three points, so it'll say
that Harris is up two points ina battleground state. And then you'll argue
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on social media saying Trump twenty twentyfour. You'll say I'm with herd Kamala
Harris, and you'll go back andforth, and neither of you idiots know
anything. You are just putting youremotions into it. Nobody knows how this
is going to turn out, Absolutelynobody. I studied this stuff all day,
all night, and the only onething I know for sure is that
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I don't know anything for sure.The only thing that I'm positive. Is
all positive about is that there's nothingthat is really that we can look at
and say this is going to happenfor sure. The only thing we really
know is the date of the electionand the way things are going. You
know, we probably would have killedourselves by then and when ruined the country
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burned it down, and it won'tbe election day because we're on the path
the ruin nation. Anyhow, Howdoes this impact the DNC though, Well,
the DNC, they're going to bemeeting or some of the committees for
the DNC going to be meeting onWednesday to work out the official process.
Last segment, I told you aboutthe informal poll. Right now, Vice
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President Harris is calling around all thedelicate and super delegates asking for their support,
asking if they'll pledge their support,and they do like a straw pole,
and they count it up. Okay, she has I don't know,
thirteen hundred or something whatever she needsto garner the nomination. She has those
in an informal number. The DNCis going to decide, are we going
to have an actual formal delegate primaryprior to the convention where all these delegates
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can officially pledge their votes to KamalaHarris, or are we going to wait
to the convention and you're risking acluster truck. There too many unknowns.
You can have someone get a wildhair up there behind and then decide to
act a full on the convention floorand say, it's almost like that person
going to say, is there anyonehere who says that these two people should
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not be wed? And then thatone fool comes from the back of the
room. Same thing. You wantto avoid that. So you want to
have everything in place prior to theactual convention, but they can take it
to the convention. They call thatan open convention, broker convention, and
then you let the chips fall wherethey may. Vice President Harris is trying
to make sure everything is in placeprior to the convention. The DNC is
going to have this meeting to seewhether they're going to have a formal primary
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miny primary of just the delegates,not voters, but delegates and super delegates,
and then they would have the actualinvention where all this would play out.
But it's a FATA compleet. It'sa foregone conclusion at this point because
of all the money which has beenraised, no one can really compete with
Kamala Harris. Because of the informalpolling of the delegates, no one really
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can compete with Kamala Harris. It'sgoing to be Donald Trump Kamala Harris.
We don't know who the vice presidentvice presidential candidate is going to be for
the Democrats, but we know it'sgoing to be jd. Vance and after
that, who knows. You know, put your helmet on because it's going
to get nasty, it's going toget dirty, and it's going to get
brutal. When we come back,we have to talk about the Secret Service
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hearings today. I got one wordfor them. Damn if I am six
forty, We're live everywhere in theiHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with
Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AMsix forty. I gotta admit there are
some things which I've not worked outwith myself. I have some issues going
back to my childhood. I hada very very strict upbringing and my father
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was a physical disciplinarian. If Icut up, he beat my behind.
You know, I was raised onthe belt. We had some rules.
If you cut up in public,you get beat in public. Sorry,
I was raised with spankings and everything. I know you say, don't touch
your kids whatever. It kept meout of jail and kept me alive.
But you know, there's some timeswhere I remember, it's like, ooh,
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that reminds me of the tongue lashingthat I got from my father or
my mother. And today I washaving some serious flashbacks when I watched a
Secret Service director Kimberly Cheedle, sitin front of the Congress and have to
answer those questions. She had nogood answers for anything. I felt like
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I was the one who's getting readyto get a spanking. I felt like
I was the one who was introuble. I was ready to turn off
the TV. It was like,I can't take it anymore, just make
it stop. Well, when yougo and testify before Congress, if you
know better, you know that yougo to get a verbal tongue last year,
especially if it's for the public,it's for the purpose of brandstanding,
for the congressional members to get theirmoment in the sun, get a clip
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that they can use and take backto the constituencies. But this was something
else altogether. It was bipartisan.Kimberly Chiel who's presently the Secret Service director.
I don't see how in the worldthat she keeps her job. But
let's get to just some of theaudio. Here's Congresswoman Nancy Mace. Both
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sides of the aisle today have askedfor your resignation. Would you like to
use my five minutes to draft yourresignation letter? Yes or no? No?
Thank you? Was this a colossalfailure? It was a failure?
Yes or no? Was it acolossal failure? Is the question yes or
no? This is a yes orno series of questions? Was this a
colossal failure? Yes or no?Yes? Was this tragedy preventable? Yes
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or no? Yes? Has theSecret Service been transparent with this committee?
Yes? Would you say the factthat we had to issue a subpoena to
get you to show up today asbeing transparent? Yes or no? I
have always been yes or no.You didn't want to answer the question we
had to issue a subpoena to getyou to show up today. That is
not transparent. By the way youstated earlier, Secret Service is not political?
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Is that correct? Yes? Anyoneready to go to their room without
dinner or dessert? I feel likeit. It feels like yeah, okay,
and go to your room. Whatdid you say you? Better fix
your lifts, better fix your face. I'll give you something to cry about.
Okay. Would you say leaking youropening statement to puncha Bowle News,
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Politico's Playbook, and Washington Post severalhours before you sent it to this committee
as being political? Yes? Orno? I have no idea how my
statement got out. Well, that'sis a Secret Service fully cooperating with our
committee? Yes? Okay, yousay you're fully cooperating with this committee on
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this computer, I'll tell you it'snot working right. Let me see if
I can fix this com many sinceyou a list of demands of information that
we wanted, has the Secret Serviceprovided this committee a complete list of all
law enforcement personnel that we're there thatday? Have you done that? Have
you provided a list to the OversightCommittee? Yes? Or no? I
will have to get back to youon that. That is a no.
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Have you provided all audio and videorecordings in your possession to this committee as
we asked on July fifteenth? Yes? Or no? Yes, I don't
have to get back to you.That is a no. You're full of
today. You're just being completely dishonest. Mist we have to maintain decorum in
this committee. Not today, haveyou provided all memorandas within the Secret Service.
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I would have to get back toyou. That is a no,
you're being dishonest or lying. Ijust you're being dishonest here with this committee.
These are important questions that the Americanpeople want answers to, and you're
just you're just dodging and talking aroundit in generalities. And we had a
subpoena you to be here and youwon't even answer the questions. We have
asked you repeatedly to answer our questions. This isn't hard. These are not
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hard questions. Have you provided usall communications from the Secret Service related to
that day in that rally? Haveyou provided this commute We've asked for this
information on July fifteenth? Have youprovided any of this information that this committee
has asked of the Secret Service?Any of it? I'll have to get
back to you. Have you evenread this letter that we sent you?
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Did you even read this? Yes? Okay, And you have said you
don't know, you have no idea. The answer is no. We haven't
gotten a single document, piece ininformation or data from you or your agency
and related to the rally that wehave asked you for. Is this was
this attempted assassination of Donald trumpell failureof training or execution or both? I
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think that those are answers that weneed to do. Is as executioner both
which one? I think those areanswers, all right? How many Secret
Service personnel have lost their jobs dueto this colossal failure at this time?
None? How many Secret Service personnelhave been required to take a refresher course
on how not to let people shootDonald Trump? Oh damn. Our personnel
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are currently operational. We are examiningthe facts of this investigation, and we
will make the changes. Nest.What time did Longenforce and become aware that
there was an individual on the roofwith a clear line of site to President
Trump. I am still verifying timelines, of course, nine days in.
You have no answers. How manyminutes went by between the time law enforcement
saw and took photos of crooks andthe shooting? How many minutes I am
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still verifying timeline seven minutes, Thankyou, mister Chairman, and I yield
back. Okay, I'm grounded forthe rest of the week. And I
didn't even do anything, And thatwas brutal. That was real rough.
Are you stupid or incompetent of both? Answer the question yes or no?
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It's like, yeah, it's whenyou're trying to find a quick way out
of whatever you just did and theyknow what you did and you cannot find
a way yes or no. That'sit. I was waiting for the Secret
Service Director to say language. Language. When we come back, we'll have
more of the tongue lashing of theSecret Service Director. It's like, I
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feel like I need to just uh, I don't know, repent for something
like what's what's wrong with my life? More just a moment Kim six forty
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on demand from KFI AM six forty. When we were listening to the tongue
lashing that the Secret Service Director KimberlyCheedle was receiving today at the hands of
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members of Congress, I don't knowhow she retains her job. I don't
know how she hasn't already turned inher resignation. This is until there's no
way she keeps her job. There'sjust no way in the world. Last
segment we were listening to, CongresswomanNancy Mace questioned her, and now this
is Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green as faras her assessment of what happened last Saturday,
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people under your command did not considerhim to be a threat, Yet
people in the crowd knew he hada gun and considered him to be a
threat. That means that you area complete failure as the director of the
Secret Service, that people under yourcommand don't perceive a man laying on a
roof with direct line to the presidentwith a gun, They don't perceive that
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to be a threat, yet thepeople in the crowd do. How is
that possible? I'm not certain atthis time how the information from the people
in the crowd was relayed to anylaw enforcement personnel. Now you knew that
everyone knew, The people there knewthat there was a danger. They knew
there was a threat to President Trump, and it was allowed to happen.
Was there a stand doown order,Miss Cheetle? Was there a conspiracy to
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kill President Trump? Absolutely not?Then how did this happen? And why
are you still sitting here not turningin your letter of resignation. Damn,
it's a bad day. But itwasn't just Republicans. Here's Democratic Congressman Jerry
Connolly. That isn't my question,That is not my question. And now
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I think you're evading the answer,which is not a hard one. I
am sorry that you feel that way, sir. How else could I feel
directed, Keetle when you're clearly avoidinga direct the answer to a very simple
declarative question. And we almost losta presidential candidate the other day. A
twenty year old had access to hisfather's AR fifteen and got on top of
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a roof within five hundred yards orfeet of the podium. And I'm asking
you the availability of that AR fifteen, which is replicated all across America,
make your job harder or easier.And you're not willing to answer that question.
And you think, and you wonderwhy we might have a lack of
confidence in your continued ability to directthis agency. I understand your question,
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and that's the environment. Well,if you understand my question, why not
answer it? Because it's the environmentthat the Secret Service works in every day.
That doesn't tell me anything. That'sthe environment we work in. They're
not wrong. This is Congressman RussellFry. You have not been able to
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answer the number of agents, whetheror not requests were denied on additional security,
whether or not law enforcements were ableto engage before the shooting with the
assassin, how he got on theroof, how the rifle got on the
roof. You can't tell us howmany shots he fired, whether the casings
were recovered. You can't tell usanything about his cell phone. You can't
tell us whether the rally was supposedto be postponed given the intelligence that you
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were receiving. You can't tell uswhether the car had a bomb. You
can't even tell us his motive.And the American people are incredibly distrustful because
it has taken nine days to evenget a scentilla of evidence out of you.
Maybe if I was CNN or ABCor NBC, I would have gotten
much more thorough and accurate information,but we have not received that in a
suboenad hearing in front of this Congress. That is why the American people are
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frustrated. And I echoed the bipartisancalls on this committee and all across this
country that you should resign or maybewhen the President wakes up from his nap,
he can fire you. Oh thatwas low what's wrong with taking a
nap? The president can't take anap. I took a nap today,
low blow. But he wasn't wrong. He wasn't wrong. There was bipartisan
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support for her resignation, and youknow, I was waiting for her to
say, sir, is there aquestion? Is there a question here?
Because it was just one long screed, long verbal screed of two minutes of
just you are horrible, please turningyour resignation. But they weren't wrong.
And I originally said, we'll eventuallyget our answers about what happened in the
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breakdown in either communications or the planningwhich led to this assassination attempt, and
we're not getting it now. Partof me wanted this briefing to be closed
door, and we would not weas the general public, Congress would be
able to get some of the answersas to methods and strategies which are employed
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and where the breakdown was. TheSecret Service Director is not going to reveal
anything publicly which could in any wayjeopardize their tactics or their methods. So
all this was grandstanding. But theyweren't wrong. She should have been able
to answer the simple questions without divulgingany of the methods and tactics which could
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have compromised future operations. She hasto resign, there's no way. And
if she doesn't resign, President Bidenhas to fire her. There's no way
that she can keep her job.It's almost like one of those things if
you're a pilot, nobody cares thatyou landed the plane safely ninety nine times.
They only care about the one hundredtimes where you killed everyone on board,
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and you're sitting before Congress because ofthe failure, not your previous successes.
I know that was a very macabreexample, but that's we're talking about
life and death here. The onlyreason she's sitting before Congress is because it's
a shooter missed. That's the onlyreason. Because if the shooter were successful,
and I'm not saying here I wantedhim to, I'm saying if it
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had turned out differently, there isno conversation. She is already fired.
We wouldn't even be talking about this. The only reason that she shouldn't sitting
there today is because he missed,and they're having a conversation about what happened.
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So did anything happen whiles away?Did I miss anything? Did the world
change? Did the Lakers make amajor trade or something? I feel like,
you know, things are real differentsince I last talked to you.
Okelly here k if I aim Sin'sforty we live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
What the hell happened this weekend?What the hell is going on in
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America? I go home Friday night, all hell breaks loose before I get
back on Monday. Again for thesecond consecutive weekend. It seems like I
better not go home Friday night.If I just stay here through the whole
weekend, nothing will change and everythingwill be okay. So once again,
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the world is upside down, exceptthis time, thank goodness, no one
got shot but President Biden. He'sstepping aside. Not to be confused with
stepping down Vice President Harris. She'snow trying to step up and obtain the
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nomination for the Democratic Party. Butyou all knew that. Here's something you
don't know already. Just because oftoday, the past twenty eight hours or
so, Vice President Harris has alreadyfund raised more than eighty five million dollars.
That's not including the ninety six million, which is estimated at this point,
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which will be available to her fromthe Biden slash Harris ticket campaign,
which was already fundraised. That's liketwo days worth. That's not including the
poll which just came out informal pollof Democratic super delegates and delegates, where
already Vice President Harris has enough informalpledge delegates to secure the nomination. No
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other Democrats at this point have triedto step forward and mount a challenge.
So it's going to be Vice PresidentHarris. It's not officially done deal,
but it's a done deal. Soyou can start wrapping your minds around the
idea of Vice President Harris against formerPresident Trump. What happens from here is
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anybody's guests. And I will sayagain, like I said two weekends ago,
like I said one week ago,I'm going to remind you, nobody
has any idea what the hell isgoing to happen between now and the election.
If someone says I know what's goingto happen, so and so is
going to win, no, you'rejust wishful thinking. You have no reason
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to know anything. The smartest mindsand politicians and campaign strategists in the world
are working high and low all nightlong trying to figure out how this is
going to turn out. And theywill tell you they have no idea.
There are too many variables. There'sno way to know what's going to happen.
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Remember how we talked about, ina general sense, the idea of
this twenty four hour news cycle.You had a twenty four hour news cycle,
but you didn't have twenty four hoursof news to fill that cycle.
Well that's not true anymore. Atleast for the past two weeks, we've
had twenty four hours of legitimate newswhich was breaking every single freaking day.
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And I don't know about you.I am exhausted. I am emotionally exhausted.
I woke up Sunday morning, Ithought, oh, it's just going
to be a typical Sunday day.I was going to go hang out my
wife, go see my mother,maybe a schedule a cruise, you know,
book of cruise. It was supposedto be a laid back Sunday.
And then by ten thirty I geta call from Spectrum News saying it's happened.
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President Biden is dropping out of therace. What And then from there
I was doing NonStop interviews, andthen I woke up this morning and I
had to go to Spectrum at sixthirty in the morning. That's how my
day started. Six thirty so Igot the Spectrum, did that interview.
You can see it. It's postedat mister mo'kelly on Facebook. It's on
my Instagram ad later with mo Kellyat mister mo Kelly. You can see
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it there. Did that interview.Then I had to go get ready to
do a live hit with Rogan andRodney for a five seventy. So we
talked about that at the Hollywood ParkCasino. So I was talking sports and
politics, presidential politics, the Dodgers, the Olympics. That was at two
o'clock today, and then I goton the freeway and drove another hour to
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get here. It seems like Idid a lot since the last time I
spoke to you. And I haveno idea where any of this is.
Just don't know. And you knowwhat the best part of it is,
that's okay, that's okay. Youjust kind of allow it to happen.
None of us can control it.There may be a debate, there may
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not be a debate. There maybe some skeleton which is going to fall
out the closet of one of thesecandidates or one of the vice presidential candidates.
We don't know who Vice President Harrismay choose as her running mate.
There is no conventional wisdom anymore.And I said this on Spectrum News.
The Democrats have turned their party upsidedown. The idea of an incumbent president
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stepping aside, stepping aside and announcinghe's not going to run literally months before
the election is unheard of, unprecedented. I know it's a word that we
use far too often. It's unprecedented. How the hell did that happen?
No one knows how we really gothere. We can blame this person or
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that person and say, oh,we knew all along. No you didn't,
No, you did not. Hedid not know that Joe Biden was
going to wake up on Sunday morningand say, whoop, just kidding,
I'm not gonna run. No oneknew that. Now you can think that
it was trending in that direction.I thought it was going to trend in
that direction. But he made itvery clear he was not going to get
out of the race. And sureenough he said, you know what,
I am getting out of the race. So who is Vice President Harris going
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to choose as her running mate.You've turned the party upside down, Democrats.
I think I think there's an argumentto be made that you go big.
What's the point of turning the partyupside down to maybe just lose,
respectively. Go big, push allyour chips into the center. And what
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I mean by that is, thisis the year where abortion is a huge
issue. This is the year inwhich women's reproductive rights is a huge issue.
This is a year in which theDemocrats are talking about Project twenty twenty
five and all the supposed rights whichwould be limited by it. Could you
imagine if the Democrats chose Michigan GovernorGretchen Whitmer as the vice presidential candidate.
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Could you imagine a ticket of twowomen, and you would put all of
those issues front and center and forceAmericans to deal with those issues right in
their face. And then you wouldhave independence and moderate women have to deal
with the possibility to be possibility orthe prospect of having not only a president
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but vice president at the same timeat the same time. Feel like Sally
Field the whole time, the wholetime, the whole time. If you
know that movie Missus doubtfire. Ifthe Democrats are to go big, this
is the time to go big.Or they can go to safe rout and
choose Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. Theycould go I don't know, Illinois Governor
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JB. Pritsker, They could goArizona Senator Mark Kelly, the astronaut.
Those are all safe picks. Iunderstand the strategy. But what happens?
Did the Democrats try to come offthe top row with an elbow like Jimmy
Superfly Snooker? That would change everythingfor all my wrestling fans out there.
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That was a deep cut. That'sa real deep cut. Mark Runner,
How you doing today? How wasyour weekend? I love any reference to
Jimmy's Superfly Snooker, especially if youhad on some rowdy roddy piper. Well,
come on, we had Hogan lastweek at the RNC. So everyone
needs to bone up on their wwF and their idiocracy. Right watch that
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movie. See that's another deep cut. How life is imitating art? It
is? It is insane and uncanny, how it is? I think last
week I messaged you that I waswaiting for the appearance of President Mountain.
Duke Camacho didn't. I, Yes, you did. Now everybody's in on
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the joke, and it wouldn't seemstrange at all, not at all.
Not in twenty twenty four. Weare so far through the looking glass.
It's Later with Moe Kelly k IMsix forty one Live. Everybody. iHeartRadio
app. I can barely contain myenthusiasm for all this is going on this
week. Oh my gosh, thewhole time, the whole time, whole
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time you're listening to Later with MoeKelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Elections they can be very complicated ifyou want to drill down on all
the variables, all the things whichcould happen, might happen, do happen,
and then you have to reevaluate,reassess, change your strategy and direction.
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That can be very complicated, butat their foundation they're really simple,
especially when you're talking about presidential elections. The Republicans the Democrats have one main
goal that they're trying to achieve,trying to put forth a candidate or a
ticket which excites their registered voters andmay pull some moderates, independence and some
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crossover from the other party. That'sit. If you can find a candidate
or ticket which excites the imagination ofyour party, there's a pretty damn good
chance you're going to win that election, because most elections are lost because of
apathy, because of people who arenot excited about the candidate or the issues.
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They don't feel like they're vote matters. They don't feel as if you
know, they're feeling as if they'revoting for the lesser of two evils.
How often do we hear that Idon't know and feel like I'm voting for
the lesser two evils. They arenot inspired, they're not enthusiastic. And
if you look at people who areshould say, election in which the base
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is excited, you'll have a turnoutof more than sixty two sixty three percent.
That's what you're looking for. Andif you have a tremendous turnout within
your party, well you're pretty assuredof winning your election in a national sense.
I know, the electoral college.Yeah, daha, blah blah blah
blah. I'm saying, on balance, if you can excite your party,
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you're halfway there because you won't haveto remind them when election day is.
You won't have to inform them onwhere their nearest polling place is because an
excited electorate will do all that bythemselves. That, in part is why
the RNC last week was so veryimportant talking about excitement, and why the
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fundraising in the past two days byKamala Harris has been so very important.
It's about excitement. It's about generatingthis energy and momentum that hopefully each party
or ticket can sustain into November.And part of the ground game the people
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who are gonna knock on your doorand call you on the phone and pull
you is to keep you focused onthe election, keep you excited. That's
the whole point of campaigning, andthat's the whole point of retail politics.
They want to make sure that youremain excited. It's a difficult job to
do. Why because we're in July, the election is in November. Do
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you know how much is going tohappen in your personal life between now in
November. Do you know what isgoing to happen on your job between now
in November? Do you know what'sgoing to happen with your kids? Are
going to be going back to school, You may be going back to school.
Do you know how much is goingto be different in November than right
now. Let me put it anotherway, you're almost two seasons away.
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You're knocking on the door of winter. Life for you right now is not
going to be like life in November. There are far too many things which
could get in the way, whichcan damp or tamp down your enthusiasm,
and that is the difficulty. KamalaHarris great enthusiasm out the gate, but
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let's not forget she had great enthusiasmand a great start to her presidential campaign
back in twenty twenty, and itfizzled out before she even got to the
first primary. It is a marathon, as they say it, damn sure,
ain't a sprint. So a greatRNC does not determine anything. A
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great week of fundraising and zoom callsthat we've heard about Kamala Harris does not
determine anything. And that's why Ialways try to tell people stay in your
shoes, slow down, calm down. For all the rah rah and all
the celebration last week at the RNC, doesn't I feel like a little bit
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more distant now? Doesn't that feellike a few weeks and maybe a month
away in terms of just the politicsof the moment. Doesn't it feel like
all that momentum that the rn Cgenerated, which you know, the R
and C ended on Thursday, It'sa brand new race come Monday, and
something could happen later on tonight,or something could happen tomorrow which could shift
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the momentum right back forward to theother side of the aisle. And it
will go back and forth, itwill vacillate. You have those periods in
which one party will own the newscycle and then the other party will own
the new cycle. We'll hear aboutthis poll, we'll hear about this snap
projection, and it'll say that Trumpis up three points, so it'll say
that Harris is up two points ina battleground state. And then you'll argue
(14:41):
on social media saying Trump twenty twentyfour. You'll say I'm with herd Kamala
Harris, and you'll go back andforth, and neither of you idiots know
anything. You are just putting youremotions into it. Nobody knows how this
is going to turn out, Absolutelynobody. I studied this stuff all day,
all night, and the only onething I know for sure is that
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I don't know anything for sure.The only thing that I'm positive. Is
all positive about is that there's nothingthat is really that we can look at
and say this is going to happenfor sure. The only thing we really
know is the date of the electionand the way things are going. You
know, we probably would have killedourselves by then and when ruined the country
(15:22):
burned it down, and it won'tbe election day because we're on the path
the ruin nation. Anyhow, Howdoes this impact the DNC though, Well,
the DNC, they're going to bemeeting or some of the committees for
the DNC going to be meeting onWednesday to work out the official process.
Last segment, I told you aboutthe informal poll. Right now, Vice
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President Harris is calling around all thedelicate and super delegates asking for their support,
asking if they'll pledge their support,and they do like a straw pole,
and they count it up. Okay, she has I don't know,
thirteen hundred or something whatever she needsto garner the nomination. She has those
in an informal number. The DNCis going to decide, are we going
to have an actual formal delegate primaryprior to the convention where all these delegates
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can officially pledge their votes to KamalaHarris, or are we going to wait
to the convention and you're risking acluster truck. There too many unknowns.
You can have someone get a wildhair up there behind and then decide to
act a full on the convention floorand say, it's almost like that person
going to say, is there anyonehere who says that these two people should
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not be wed? And then thatone fool comes from the back of the
room. Same thing. You wantto avoid that. So you want to
have everything in place prior to theactual convention, but they can take it
to the convention. They call thatan open convention, broker convention, and
then you let the chips fall wherethey may. Vice President Harris is trying
to make sure everything is in placeprior to the convention. The DNC is
going to have this meeting to seewhether they're going to have a formal primary
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miny primary of just the delegates,not voters, but delegates and super delegates,
and then they would have the actualinvention where all this would play out.
But it's a FATA compleet. It'sa foregone conclusion at this point because
of all the money which has beenraised, no one can really compete with
Kamala Harris. Because of the informalpolling of the delegates, no one really
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can compete with Kamala Harris. It'sgoing to be Donald Trump Kamala Harris.
We don't know who the vice presidentvice presidential candidate is going to be for
the Democrats, but we know it'sgoing to be jd. Vance and after
that, who knows. You know, put your helmet on because it's going
to get nasty, it's going toget dirty, and it's going to get
brutal. When we come back,we have to talk about the Secret Service
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hearings today. I got one wordfor them. Damn if I am six
forty, We're live everywhere in theiHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with
Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AMsix forty. I gotta admit there are
some things which I've not worked outwith myself. I have some issues going
back to my childhood. I hada very very strict upbringing and my father
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was a physical disciplinarian. If Icut up, he beat my behind.
You know, I was raised onthe belt. We had some rules.
If you cut up in public,you get beat in public. Sorry,
I was raised with spankings and everything. I know you say, don't touch
your kids whatever. It kept meout of jail and kept me alive.
But you know, there's some timeswhere I remember, it's like, ooh,
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that reminds me of the tongue lashingthat I got from my father or
my mother. And today I washaving some serious flashbacks when I watched a
Secret Service director Kimberly Cheedle, sitin front of the Congress and have to
answer those questions. She had nogood answers for anything. I felt like
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I was the one who's getting readyto get a spanking. I felt like
I was the one who was introuble. I was ready to turn off
the TV. It was like,I can't take it anymore, just make
it stop. Well, when yougo and testify before Congress, if you
know better, you know that yougo to get a verbal tongue last year,
especially if it's for the public,it's for the purpose of brandstanding,
for the congressional members to get theirmoment in the sun, get a clip
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that they can use and take backto the constituencies. But this was something
else altogether. It was bipartisan.Kimberly Chiel who's presently the Secret Service director.
I don't see how in the worldthat she keeps her job. But
let's get to just some of theaudio. Here's Congresswoman Nancy Mace. Both
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sides of the aisle today have askedfor your resignation. Would you like to
use my five minutes to draft yourresignation letter? Yes or no? No?
Thank you? Was this a colossalfailure? It was a failure?
Yes or no? Was it acolossal failure? Is the question yes or
no? This is a yes orno series of questions? Was this a
colossal failure? Yes or no?Yes? Was this tragedy preventable? Yes
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or no? Yes? Has theSecret Service been transparent with this committee?
Yes? Would you say the factthat we had to issue a subpoena to
get you to show up today asbeing transparent? Yes or no? I
have always been yes or no.You didn't want to answer the question we
had to issue a subpoena to getyou to show up today. That is
not transparent. By the way youstated earlier, Secret Service is not political?
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Is that correct? Yes? Anyoneready to go to their room without
dinner or dessert? I feel likeit. It feels like yeah, okay,
and go to your room. Whatdid you say you? Better fix
your lifts, better fix your face. I'll give you something to cry about.
Okay. Would you say leaking youropening statement to puncha Bowle News,
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Politico's Playbook, and Washington Post severalhours before you sent it to this committee
as being political? Yes? Orno? I have no idea how my
statement got out. Well, that'sis a Secret Service fully cooperating with our
committee? Yes? Okay, yousay you're fully cooperating with this committee on
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this computer, I'll tell you it'snot working right. Let me see if
I can fix this com many sinceyou a list of demands of information that
we wanted, has the Secret Serviceprovided this committee a complete list of all
law enforcement personnel that we're there thatday? Have you done that? Have
you provided a list to the OversightCommittee? Yes? Or no? I
will have to get back to youon that. That is a no.
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Have you provided all audio and videorecordings in your possession to this committee as
we asked on July fifteenth? Yes? Or no? Yes, I don't
have to get back to you.That is a no. You're full of
today. You're just being completely dishonest. Mist we have to maintain decorum in
this committee. Not today, haveyou provided all memorandas within the Secret Service.
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I would have to get back toyou. That is a no,
you're being dishonest or lying. Ijust you're being dishonest here with this committee.
These are important questions that the Americanpeople want answers to, and you're
just you're just dodging and talking aroundit in generalities. And we had a
subpoena you to be here and youwon't even answer the questions. We have
asked you repeatedly to answer our questions. This isn't hard. These are not
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hard questions. Have you provided usall communications from the Secret Service related to
that day in that rally? Haveyou provided this commute We've asked for this
information on July fifteenth? Have youprovided any of this information that this committee
has asked of the Secret Service?Any of it? I'll have to get
back to you. Have you evenread this letter that we sent you?
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Did you even read this? Yes? Okay, And you have said you
don't know, you have no idea. The answer is no. We haven't
gotten a single document, piece ininformation or data from you or your agency
and related to the rally that wehave asked you for. Is this was
this attempted assassination of Donald trumpell failureof training or execution or both? I
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think that those are answers that weneed to do. Is as executioner both
which one? I think those areanswers, all right? How many Secret
Service personnel have lost their jobs dueto this colossal failure at this time?
None? How many Secret Service personnelhave been required to take a refresher course
on how not to let people shootDonald Trump? Oh damn. Our personnel
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are currently operational. We are examiningthe facts of this investigation, and we
will make the changes. Nest.What time did Longenforce and become aware that
there was an individual on the roofwith a clear line of site to President
Trump. I am still verifying timelines, of course, nine days in.
You have no answers. How manyminutes went by between the time law enforcement
saw and took photos of crooks andthe shooting? How many minutes I am
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still verifying timeline seven minutes, Thankyou, mister Chairman, and I yield
back. Okay, I'm grounded forthe rest of the week. And I
didn't even do anything, And thatwas brutal. That was real rough.
Are you stupid or incompetent of both? Answer the question yes or no?
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It's like, yeah, it's whenyou're trying to find a quick way out
of whatever you just did and theyknow what you did and you cannot find
a way yes or no. That'sit. I was waiting for the Secret
Service Director to say language. Language. When we come back, we'll have
more of the tongue lashing of theSecret Service Director. It's like, I
(24:26):
feel like I need to just uh, I don't know, repent for something
like what's what's wrong with my life? More just a moment Kim six forty
we're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly
on demand from KFI AM six forty. When we were listening to the tongue
lashing that the Secret Service Director KimberlyCheedle was receiving today at the hands of
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members of Congress, I don't knowhow she retains her job. I don't
know how she hasn't already turned inher resignation. This is until there's no
way she keeps her job. There'sjust no way in the world. Last
segment we were listening to, CongresswomanNancy Mace questioned her, and now this
is Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green as faras her assessment of what happened last Saturday,
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people under your command did not considerhim to be a threat, Yet
people in the crowd knew he hada gun and considered him to be a
threat. That means that you area complete failure as the director of the
Secret Service, that people under yourcommand don't perceive a man laying on a
roof with direct line to the presidentwith a gun, They don't perceive that
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to be a threat, yet thepeople in the crowd do. How is
that possible? I'm not certain atthis time how the information from the people
in the crowd was relayed to anylaw enforcement personnel. Now you knew that
everyone knew, The people there knewthat there was a danger. They knew
there was a threat to President Trump, and it was allowed to happen.
Was there a stand doown order,Miss Cheetle? Was there a conspiracy to
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kill President Trump? Absolutely not?Then how did this happen? And why
are you still sitting here not turningin your letter of resignation. Damn,
it's a bad day. But itwasn't just Republicans. Here's Democratic Congressman Jerry
Connolly. That isn't my question,That is not my question. And now
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I think you're evading the answer,which is not a hard one. I
am sorry that you feel that way, sir. How else could I feel
directed, Keetle when you're clearly avoidinga direct the answer to a very simple
declarative question. And we almost losta presidential candidate the other day. A
twenty year old had access to hisfather's AR fifteen and got on top of
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a roof within five hundred yards orfeet of the podium. And I'm asking
you the availability of that AR fifteen, which is replicated all across America,
make your job harder or easier.And you're not willing to answer that question.
And you think, and you wonderwhy we might have a lack of
confidence in your continued ability to directthis agency. I understand your question,
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and that's the environment. Well,if you understand my question, why not
answer it? Because it's the environmentthat the Secret Service works in every day.
That doesn't tell me anything. That'sthe environment we work in. They're
not wrong. This is Congressman RussellFry. You have not been able to
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answer the number of agents, whetheror not requests were denied on additional security,
whether or not law enforcements were ableto engage before the shooting with the
assassin, how he got on theroof, how the rifle got on the
roof. You can't tell us howmany shots he fired, whether the casings
were recovered. You can't tell usanything about his cell phone. You can't
tell us whether the rally was supposedto be postponed given the intelligence that you
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were receiving. You can't tell uswhether the car had a bomb. You
can't even tell us his motive.And the American people are incredibly distrustful because
it has taken nine days to evenget a scentilla of evidence out of you.
Maybe if I was CNN or ABCor NBC, I would have gotten
much more thorough and accurate information,but we have not received that in a
suboenad hearing in front of this Congress. That is why the American people are
(28:19):
frustrated. And I echoed the bipartisancalls on this committee and all across this
country that you should resign or maybewhen the President wakes up from his nap,
he can fire you. Oh thatwas low what's wrong with taking a
nap? The president can't take anap. I took a nap today,
low blow. But he wasn't wrong. He wasn't wrong. There was bipartisan
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support for her resignation, and youknow, I was waiting for her to
say, sir, is there aquestion? Is there a question here?
Because it was just one long screed, long verbal screed of two minutes of
just you are horrible, please turningyour resignation. But they weren't wrong.
And I originally said, we'll eventuallyget our answers about what happened in the
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breakdown in either communications or the planningwhich led to this assassination attempt, and
we're not getting it now. Partof me wanted this briefing to be closed
door, and we would not weas the general public, Congress would be
able to get some of the answersas to methods and strategies which are employed
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and where the breakdown was. TheSecret Service Director is not going to reveal
anything publicly which could in any wayjeopardize their tactics or their methods. So
all this was grandstanding. But theyweren't wrong. She should have been able
to answer the simple questions without divulgingany of the methods and tactics which could
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have compromised future operations. She hasto resign, there's no way. And
if she doesn't resign, President Bidenhas to fire her. There's no way
that she can keep her job.It's almost like one of those things if
you're a pilot, nobody cares thatyou landed the plane safely ninety nine times.
They only care about the one hundredtimes where you killed everyone on board,
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and you're sitting before Congress because ofthe failure, not your previous successes.
I know that was a very macabreexample, but that's we're talking about
life and death here. The onlyreason she's sitting before Congress is because it's
a shooter missed. That's the onlyreason. Because if the shooter were successful,
and I'm not saying here I wantedhim to, I'm saying if it
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had turned out differently, there isno conversation. She is already fired.
We wouldn't even be talking about this. The only reason that she shouldn't sitting
there today is because he missed,and they're having a conversation about what happened.
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