July 31, 2024 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on an Ohio Supreme Court’s ruling that “boneless wings” can have bones in them AND the top 10 cars stolen in California…PLUS – A look at the signs of undiagnosed autism in adulthood - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let me tell you about Michael Burkheimer. He was dining
with his wife and friends at a chicken joint in Hamilton, Ohio.
He had his usual order. He likes boneless wings with
parmesan garlic sauce. Ate it as normal, but he felt
a piece go down the wrong way. You've ever been
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eating and you feel something like go down your wimpipe
or something, you start coughing. It's really unpleasant, very painful.
But three days later Burkheimer felt feverish, he couldn't keep
food down, felt very ill. He went to the hospital
emergency room. A doctor discovered that there was a long,
thin bone which had torn his esophagus and also caused
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an infection. Burkheimer and I think rightfully so sued the restaurant,
which is called Wings on Brookwood, and said the restaurant
failed to warn him that the boneless wings air quotes
could also have wings, excuse me, bones in them. And
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the lawsuit also named the supplier and the farm that
produced a chicken dam claiming all three word negligent. In
a four to three ruling last week the Supreme Court.
The Ohio Supreme Court ruled that boneless wings refers only
to a cooking style and that Berkheimer should have been
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on guard against bones since its common knowledge that chickens
have bones. Berkhimer's lawsuit was dismissed, and the court also
ruled that boneless chicken wings can have bones in them. Now,
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what does that mean? If I were to get a
mess patty and then it had meat in them? Should
I have been on guard for meat when it should
have been a meatless patty? I'm being serious?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
If I'm advertised one thing and this could have turned
out deadly for him if he didn't go to the
doctor soon enough. Why is it his responsibility to assume
that because chickens have bones in them, that in a
product advertised is not containing bones, he should make the
assumption and be on guard for bones.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
No one has ever ordered chicken nuggets and expected nuggets
to have bones in them just because they air quotes
here come from a chicken. That makes no sense. Oh,
do you want better? When I go to McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
When I ever go to McDonald's and I should get
a hamburger, should I expect bones in.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
My burger because cows have bones in them. That's right.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Beware, buddy boy, is that is that? Look, the court
just ruled that words have no meaning.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay, this makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
If I go to a restaurant, okay, and I order fish,
it is my expectation because I know that fish can
have bones. I expect the fish to have bones because
for the most part, it comes on the bone. But
if I order fish and it's de boned like a
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fish file at, I'm going to have a righteous complaint
if I find bones and because I bought it to
not have the.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Bone, that's how it was advertised.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't see how it's a it's a reasonable assumption
to expect something that was advertised that it's not supposed
to have. It'll be different. It's just fish cutlet. It'd
be different if it's just said chicken parts.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You know. Yeah, you don't know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
But when you are specifically purchasing boneless chicken, the only
expectation is it shouldn't have any bones. Yeah, yeah, not
even that it should taste good, that at the minimum,
it shouldn't have bones because that's what it's being advertised at.
I don't see how anyone can go to any restaurant
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or establishment and consume any product which is completely opposite
how it's being advertised and then blame the customer.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I don't even understand how the court and again this
is an Ohio Supreme Court, so that says a lot.
But how an Ohio Supreme Court rules that boneless chicken
wings can have bones? How does the court even put
that together?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Well? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I mean, if I were to go to the grocery
store and buy some milk, does that mean that there
I should be on guard for bones and the milk,
because again, cows have bones. I'm just trying to follow
the logic here, which there's none.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah. Well, it's like it's.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Like Schrodinger's cat, except in this case it's Schrodinger's bone.
You don't know if there's going to be a bone
in it unlessen until it tears your esophagus, right, right, But.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Still, where does the responsibility lie? Are you saying that me,
as the consumer, it's my fault because my esophagus got
torn by a bone that shouldn't have been in there.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yeah, it's almost as if you have some problem somehow
living in a libertarian hellscape where you're not safe from anything.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I don't know what to do because anything I bought
go ahead, Steffan. I was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
This kind of reminds me of when you watch those
car commercials and you'll see people driving like crazy on
the freeway or driving off road and they have to
put it at the bottom because I'm sure someone did
it closed course with professional driver, and it's like, you
almost It's like, do they have to do that with boneless?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Now, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Can understand people doing stupid things, But in that commercial
to use your analogy, they are not saying that if
you buy this, you get to do that. You know,
they're not making that one to one comparison if I buy, like,
for example, if I buy that truck, to use your analogy,
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I think it's a reasonable assumption that the.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Break should work.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They It shouldn't be on me to assume that the
brakes don't work when I'm giving a car which is
supposedly passed a five point inspection and it's safe to
drive out.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
On the road.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
No, Now, the free market will work all that out
after enough people die. You don't understand how the free
market works clearly.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, and it may not be a wonder one comparison,
But if you give me boneless chicken wings, it's not
a reasonable assumption then it might have bones in it.
It's not a reasonable assumption that it might have feces
in it just because it comes from an animal.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I mean, how I was actually thinking, how far does
this go? Because if I buy, say now a burger,
I buy some meat or anything at a restaurant and
say it's gone bad, right, all these places in California,
you get all these warnings Trader Joe's has the listeria
lettuce or.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Whatever whatever it may be.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Right, are we then to say, well, it's now to
be expected that after a certain point of time food
can go buy it codes you know, right, it's reasonable.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Buy or beware. As Mark said, it doesn't make any sense.
It's strange credulity, as they say that you're going to
blame the person who was wrong and it has a
legitimate medical issue because of the food legitimate. No one
thinks that it's okay that you go to a chicken
joint and there's a good a chance, even a slight
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chance that you may come away with a torn esophagus.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Did you notice in this story if that was the
end of it, or if it's going to be appealed.
I'd like to see this bone thing go all the
way up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But I don't know what they can do with it.
I don't know if it was dismissed with prejudice or not.
He doesn't say so. I don't know if he can
refile it. I don't know if he can.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I don't know. We need a dispositive bone ruling.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I just don't like what this says for the country
because what starts in Ohio, Now this can be used everywhere.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well, what you're talking about is case precedent, and this
could have all sorts of unintended consequences or even intended
consequences for similar situations where you can point that. Look,
Ohio Supreme Court made it clear that you should expect
bones in your bonus food or if there's a or
let's talk about peanut allergies. If you're so a food
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which is not supposed to have peanuts in it, is
it a reasonable expectation that there might be peanuts in it,
or peanut oil or something which could have a deadly
effect on someone who's allergic to it.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Oh yeah, there's trace elements of peanuts everywhere. How do
you expect to avoid that? I'm being serious, right, trace elements? Absolutely? Yeah,
that's the upshot of all this. You can't trust anything
and it's on you. Good luck, sink or swim, buddy boy.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And there's also the debate that we've had before. You know,
boneless chicken wings. Are they actually wings? I say they are.
They're not what you're saying they're not. That's an adult
chicken nugget.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
A boneless chicken wing is nothing more than an adult
chicken nugget.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Be clear.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Oh so I should have a reasonable expectation that it
didn't come from the wing part of the chicken.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
How do you know if it does. It's not shaped
like a wing anymore. It's not like the MiG rib
where it's shaped like a rib sandwich and has the
bone impressions. That's not what it is. It's not shaped
like a wing. It's just a strip of meat.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Now, Oh so I should have a reasonable expectation that
of an actual bone and a mc rib because it's
shaped like a rib.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Is that what you're.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Saying that they don't need to call it a MiG rib,
that's a mic lie.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Okay, okay, it's Later with mo Kelly KFI AM six
forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. We'll tell you
about the top ten cars stolen right here in California.
You may want to find out if your car is
on the list or if it's already been stolen.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFIAM six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
The National Insurance Crime Bureau Investigation says that one over
one million cars were stolen last year and with an
increase from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three. California
is the state with the largest number of auto thefts
at two hundred and eight thousand, six hundred and sixty eight.
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And just in case you're curious about the ten most
stolen cars here in California, well we have that information
for you. Coming in at number ten Kia Sportage and
I expect a lot of Kias on this list because
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it's the only key uh any only car that you
can steal with a USB cord. Coming in at number
nine of the most stolen cars in California, Ford f
one fifty pick up.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, that's a pop. Its one. Number eight Kia Forte.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Why don't we just say, if you have a Kia,
your ass is on this list. Just skip to the end.
Number seven, Honda Civic. It doesn't say what.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Year, so just assume. Yeah. Yeah, Look, it's always been
a good one.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, I got a Honda Civic, you know, so I've
always thought it eventually was going to get stolen. Coming
in at number six, Honda Cord. That's not surprising. Honda
Cord is usually on the list. And hey, look, we
know a lot of these cars are stolen because they're
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easier to steal, and a lot of these cars are
stolen because they're easy to sell the parts of Coming
in at number five of the most stolen cars here
in California.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Kia Soul. Yeah, if you have a Kia, you won't
for long.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Number four. Wit a man, where's my rim shot? That
was funny as hell?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Was?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Come on now I'll wait. That's not a rim shot.
Yes it is. Give it to me, Thank you very much.
Work in the refs. Coming in at well, we've got
number four, Yeah, number four.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Chevy Silverado fifteen hundred truck obviously coming in at number
three of the most often stolen car in California. Kia Optima,
damn every single brand and model, coming in at number
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two of the most stolen cars here in California, which
has the largest number of auto thefts. Hyundai Sonata. I'm
just asking why you bought one in the first place.
I can at least understand why someone bought a Kia.
Those are kind of nice looking cars. But a Hyundai
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those are some ugly ass cars. And then to think
that you're gonna have it stolen. You stole an ugly
ass car, you bought it and had it stolen. That's
insult to injury. That's for seven eleven robberies. Pretty much
pretty much that in kis do. But see I look
at a kid, It's like, that's a nice looking call.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But they also redesigned them. But the new Hyundais are
pretty nice. They are, I think so, not because I
think I know what you're thinking of, and I can
see why. Like, like, eh, I like that. I like
the new I've always liked Kia. They're kind of sporty.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I like them.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You know, I just wouldn't buy one, and I would
never buy a Hyundai never coming in at number one
according to the National Insurance Crime Bureau of the most
often stolen car here in California.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Anyone want to take a guess.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Who hasn't seen the list and Toyota, camer h Stephan,
any any guests, that's a good guess. Yeah, the Core
would have been my guest, so that's already on the list. Yeah,
I would have said Honda court Mark. Any guests, I
would have guessed Honda as well. That's what I drive
in and I live in perpetual fear of it not
being there when I go out to get into. It's true,
It's true. It's one of those easy access cars. Yeah,
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all right, coming in at number one with the gold medal.
Hyundai Elantra another car I don't understand why anyone has.
And if you're driving one right now, I'm not sorry.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I meant it. I said it a day.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
But who goes to a lot and says, oh, I
gotta have that Hyundai, A Lantra. Just got to get
that Hyundai Sonata. Just have to have a Hyundai. And
I say this, just coming back from Kia. Everybody's driving
a Hunday over there for obvious reasons. Everyone has a Hyundai. Really,
it's a Korean car. Everybody has a Hundai. The taxis
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are Hyundai's, the police cars are Hyundais. Really yeah no,
really that's oh that's kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Well they're keeping out so that if you smash one up,
you can just get get another one out of the closet,
like one of Schroeder's pianos or something.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's not like there's going to be a high speed chase. Okay,
they're not chasing anyone down.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
They don't. They don't need like like a V eight
Interceptor or four Falcon. They don't need a grand Tono charger.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, they don't need any of that.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Look it's a Hyundai. No, no, you.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Weren't going to see a Hyundai and smoking the bandit
or no vanishing points or anything.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's it's like the slow and not very angry, the
cautious and budget conscious.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Go ahead, give it to me, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Two in one segment, it's later with mo Kelly ca
if I am six forty, we are live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app. And did you know that you, as
an adult may be autistic just undiagnosed. We're going to
find out what are some of the signs and symptoms.
That's next Kelly six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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There's a probom that we have on Cafe and it's
talking about how I felt that was weird and awkward
and out of place and everything when I was a
kid and now as an adult, and weird and awkward
and all that kind of stuff. It's true. When I
was a kid, I thought I was really different. There
was something.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I don't know if it was.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Wrong with me, but I perceived the world differently than
other people. And as I got older, I think like, yeah,
I'm still different. Can't put my finger on it. I
just look at the world differently. Not viewpoints, but just
how it appears to me visually. I have a synesthesia
where I see colors and it corresponds to a certain sound,
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Like if I see red, it has a certain note
to it. If I see blue, it has a certain
note to it. All of that other weirdness. When I
was growing up, I had all sorts of OCD and
then I came across this article which talks about the
nine biggest signs of autism and adulthood, so I think
I'm autistic. I don't think so, but there's a lot
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of evidence to support I'm probably pretty near the spectrum,
if not on it. And Mark Runner, I think you
would get a kick out of this as well, because
you and I are very alike in many ways.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I just assume we've all got the same problem.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
No, seriously, I think there's something where we see the
world appears to us very differently than most people. All Right,
here are some of the signs. And this is about
diagnosing autism in adults, not children, but adults. And it's
a recent study found that some eighty percent of adults
with autism are still undiagnosed at age eighteen. And I
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know when I was a child, they were not diagnosing
autism or determining if a child was on the spectrum,
so it wouldn't be something that would even apply to me.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
But as I get older, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Like I have some weird, weird OCD habits that I
remember as a child which were really obsessive, and now
I look back and think, I wonder how how I
would be looked at today.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
The first one is a feeling of being different from others.
All the experts shared that it's common for autistic people
to feel different. Okay, that's kind of vague, but yeah,
that corresponds to at least my feelings growing up. Also
a difficulty with social cues. Someone with undiagnosed autism may
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find that they have trouble deciphering how much eye contact
is appropriate or when they should stop smiling during a conversation.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
That doesn't apply to me. I just assume you never
make eye contact unless you want to be attacked.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, I I had to learn how I have to
think about that because eye contact. A lot of times
I may not look at someone because I'm thinking, and
when you make eye contact with someone sometimes it distracts
you from the thought you're trying to hold. But it's
not an unwillingness that you would see many times with
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autistic children. I know, t while you work with neurodivergent
children and young people are on the spectrum, and you
know how it presents itself.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Yes, I work with children who have a primary diagnosis
of autism at our school, and so that's why when
I look at this list and I look at how
they're defining this as adult autism or autism and adults.
I'm language sounds more like this is just a broad
way to say you may be on the spectrum, which
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would be more accurate because there are significant symptoms and
things that go into an actual autism diagnosis. That this
is covering things that just to me, I'm like, Okay,
you're on the spectrum.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Got it.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
But to say it's it's autism that this is a
bit of a leap.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Also, someone with undiagnosed autism, again with Air, quotes a
confusing relationship history, both romantically or platonically. Well, I don't
know how I should interpret that quote. There might be
relationships that have that kind of suddenly burst apart, but
the autistic person doesn't understand why. When it comes to
the reason behind this complicated relationship history, it's likely that
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the person with autism doesn't know why their relationships fail
when other peoples don't. Well, mine fail because the other
person was wrong. I'm clear, so that doesn't apply to me. Okay,
it's her fault. Sensory differences and this absolutely applies to me.
Sensitivity to sensory input like noise and sight is another
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potential sign of autism. The person is either hyper aware
of a sound or totally unaware. People who are not
autistic tend to be more or less responsive to sensory stimuli.
For example, an autistic person may find that they're constantly
aware of a ticking clock at a friend's house. Here's
a true story. This is why it jumped out of me.
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I cannot sleep in a room where there it's a
ticking clock. Well, how could you? I will hear it
all night long, of course, but I'm saying other people
are like, it's just a clock.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I will always hear those subtle sounds because my ears
are attuned to micro sounds. I will hear the dog barking,
I will hear the siren in the distance.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I already told you about synesthesia.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I am really really connected to sound, and sounds can
drive me crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Now outwardly, it's not something.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That I will act out, but it's something inwardly like, look,
you know, I got it. I've taken clocks out of
room and put them in another room because I can
hear the minute ticking. So that's something that jumped out
of me. Here's something else, a desire for routine. Many
people with autism thrive on consistency. If they move homes
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or move careers. That could create a season of insomnia
or anxiety. That is me all day. I do not
like change. If you know me, I wear basically the
same stuff every week.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I'm being I'm being honest. Oh no, we both do. Yeah, yeah,
I'll wear my polos, the same polos, the same shoes, socks.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And because it's about comfort and consistency.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Well, I think of it in terms like the Einstein thing,
where you don't want to use up your bandwidth figuring
out what to wear. Right, if most of your stuff
looks the same, that's less garbage you have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
In a given day, I will obsess in my closet
about what I Am going to wear it and still
end up with the same stuff. I will obsess about
did I lock the door?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But now I can do it from my apps, I
don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I will obsess like when I'm leaving my Dojong did
I lock the door? And I will It will just
it will consume me and I'll think about it like
I forgot. I mentally didn't remember whether I locked the
door to the Dojong, my martial arts gym, when I
was leaving. I have a key and it just bothered
me all weekend because I didn't want to You.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Like that too, Yes, same, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
If I don't have the mental memory of actually turning
it off or whatever, I will be obsessed with it.
And there are other things that I'm not going to
discuss on the year, but they're just things that I
will obsess over because my mind won't let it go.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
In other words, bathroom things. But a lot of this
falls under compulsive obsessive. This I'm saying, it's it's on
the spectrum. If that's why when I see that, when
I saw this story, I'm like, who wrote this? Someone
who literally is giving such a broad brushing of what
they think autism is. And and that's why this, this
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whole article is. I'm like, change, change the titles. You
know nine biggest signs you are successive, you have poll CD,
you may make it done.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, let's go on. It says a need for solitude.
That's me quote needing solitude for recharge after social situations
or really over stimulating situations. For example, when I leave
here at twally, you know, when I close out the mic,
if I aim SINX forty, we're live everywhere in I
heeartradio app and I.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Lock out for the night. How soon before I've hit
my car.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Oh, by the time I turn around, I turn around and.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Talking about solitude when I'm driving home, and oftentimes when
i'm driving in there's no sound. I do not have
the radio one other times if I'm listening to Nori,
but that's about it. But a lot of times it's
complete silence.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You're raw dogging it like the young kids on airplanes.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, but I want to be able to completely disconnect completely.
I don't want any sound, I don't want any stimuli.
I just need to completely That's why I'm saying like, nah,
I'm not saying that I am, but.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It makes me think about it.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Well, on some level, these things are kind of like
horoscopes too, though, where they're so vague, so general, they
apply to everybody, and there's also a lot of overlap
and the symptoms from one thing to another. OCD, the
spectrum whatever. I mean, how could you miss anybody with
some of this stuff?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
All right?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
How about this more intense interests? That's more OCD. We
can skip off from that one. No I fit that
descript that I resemble that most to this. A dislike
of small talk. That's me all day. I hate going
to cocktail parties and engaging in small talk.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Hate it.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yeah, I always feel like there's a basketball shot clock.
There's like fifteen seconds before I say something that's going
to horrify somebody and end my career.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Right, And there are social cues which keep me from
being a complete a whole, but it's not natural for me,
which leads into the next one. I'm sorry, step. A
desire for direct communication.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I need to go. I need to go from A
to B. Say what you mean, get, let's get let's
skip to the end, please, I was gonna do you
one better.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Like talking about cocktail parties, I'll sometimes slow down so
I don't get on the elevator with someone that I
don't know. Yes, yes, because I don't want to have
that uncomfortable moment, because I don't want to look at you,
I don't want to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And it's really it's really difficult.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And I was talking to everyone of like, hey, when
I'm not at work, I don't talk about work, and
if by chance someone should recognize me and they go
into the conversation, I'm not trying to be rude, but
I'm probably not up for the small talk.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
It's it's hard for me. It really really is difficult
for me.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I can talk, obviously, it's what I do, but I'm
saying it's not my comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
We're really lotistic. Maybe maybe, but there's always something.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And I've noticed about personality radio personalities by and large
were weird. No, the people that I've worked for socially awkward,
all crazy. I am not going to talk about any
people here. You can come to your own conclusion about
Bill Handled, jock O, belt Tip, Cobway Junior. I'm just
saying because I'm not going to speak about them, but
I'm saying the people I've worked for definitely definitely weird.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Well, you have to be a little bit crazy just
to get into this line of work. But just to specify,
all of the authority figures we work for are perfectly normal.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
They're perfectly normal and no problems whatsoever. Nothing unkind to
say about any of them. No, no, no, not any
of them at all.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Look at the time, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty through.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Over last segment.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
But we have to continue this conversation because I know
someone was listening when we were talking about adult autism undiagnosed,
how it may present itself, and you know, in our
everyday lives and if you have a certain age, you
might not have been diagnosed.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
It was very general, but.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It got me thinking about some of my quirks, some
of my idiosyncrasies, some of my massive OCD that I
struggled with to this day. And then our news editor
Bethany Brown came running down the hall and Bethany, what
did you.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Say to us?
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I said, Oh, my gosh, I cannot believe you're having
this conversation right now because I was just talking about
it earlier and I felt like it related to me,
or I related to the conversation so much.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I struggle with my OCD.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Like I didn't say on the air, I wear ankle
socks because if I wear longer socks, I have to
pull them up all day long.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I have to make.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Sure that the seam of my sock is not touching
my foot, or I will take off my shoe wherever
I am so I can make sure my.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Sock is correct. It can be debilitating at times.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think for me I recently was
talking to a psychoanalyst that I have because I've I've
introduced the idea that I might be autistic or somewhere
on the spectrum, and they explain to me that OCD itself,
which I'm diagnosed with, is extremely similar in certain ways.
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For example, when you get overstimulated as you talked about earlier,
with like loud noises and things like that and kind
of becoming like emotionally reactive to being overstimulated. So they said,
the biggest difference is just autism is an intellectual disability
and OCD is more of a mental disability, a mental health.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
All I know is I'm different, Okay, Yeah, like I'm
trying to be diagnosed or claim the title of being
autistic or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I just know that the world doesn't present itself to
me the same as other people. No, Yes, I mean
you talked about like that.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You remind me of just how I eat food and
everything I eat the same food. I get California fish
grill every single day, every day, the exact same food
because I know it's going to taste a.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Certain way and it'll keep me calm. And I'm being serious, separated.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You do not let uh you know, you know, and
you don't eat the leftovers all those things.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yes, from least to most.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
It's your safety, it's your safe place. You're like, this
food makes me feel safe. I've had it a billion
times and I know.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's gonna make me feel good or at least I'm
gonna enjoy it. I'm not gonna like experiment with the
food new No.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
But the difference, the difference with especially with some of
the children and some of the young. When I say children,
i'm talking young adults as well that work with there
is that you do not want to because it makes
you uncomfortable, I say, with you, But you can intellectually
you can. You can sit there and you can eat
this food in a specific order, versus children who literally
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cannot without there being a shut down, an actual shutdown
and a behavior.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Let me jump in there, because like, for example, I
cannot sleep with drawers open in my room. I cannot
sleep with like drawers cabinets open downstairs in the kitchen.
I will get out of the bed and go downstairs
into the kitchen and close all the cabinets and drawers
in the drawers in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Before I can go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm barely at the point where I can go to
sleep with the closet door open.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Severe OCD y Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
As someone who's diagnosed, I can say so.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Since we're diagnosing people, what's wrong with mark? Oh, don't
get me started. How much time do we have?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Well, first of all, if the closet door is open,
then whatever's in there is going to come out as
soon as you close your eyes.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Well that's yeah, that goes back to childhood. But that
wouldn't be my OCD. Okay can if?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I am six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I don't know what you're thinking, and I kind of
like that.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Keep it funk f I'm kost HD two, Los Angeles,
Orange County Live everywhere on the e
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let me tell you about Michael Burkheimer. He was dining
with his wife and friends at a chicken joint in Hamilton, Ohio.
He had his usual order. He likes boneless wings with
parmesan garlic sauce. Ate it as normal, but he felt
a piece go down the wrong way. You've ever been
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eating and you feel something like go down your wimpipe
or something, you start coughing. It's really unpleasant, very painful.
But three days later Burkheimer felt feverish, he couldn't keep
food down, felt very ill. He went to the hospital
emergency room. A doctor discovered that there was a long,
thin bone which had torn his esophagus and also caused
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an infection. Burkheimer and I think rightfully so sued the restaurant,
which is called Wings on Brookwood, and said the restaurant
failed to warn him that the boneless wings air quotes
could also have wings, excuse me, bones in them. And
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the lawsuit also named the supplier and the farm that
produced a chicken dam claiming all three word negligent. In
a four to three ruling last week the Supreme Court.
The Ohio Supreme Court ruled that boneless wings refers only
to a cooking style and that Berkheimer should have been
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on guard against bones since its common knowledge that chickens
have bones. Berkhimer's lawsuit was dismissed, and the court also
ruled that boneless chicken wings can have bones in them. Now,
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what does that mean? If I were to get a
mess patty and then it had meat in them? Should
I have been on guard for meat when it should
have been a meatless patty? I'm being serious?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
If I'm advertised one thing and this could have turned
out deadly for him if he didn't go to the
doctor soon enough. Why is it his responsibility to assume
that because chickens have bones in them, that in a
product advertised is not containing bones, he should make the
assumption and be on guard for bones.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
No one has ever ordered chicken nuggets and expected nuggets
to have bones in them just because they air quotes
here come from a chicken. That makes no sense. Oh,
do you want better? When I go to McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
When I ever go to McDonald's and I should get
a hamburger, should I expect bones in.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
My burger because cows have bones in them. That's right.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Beware, buddy boy, is that is that? Look, the court
just ruled that words have no meaning.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay, this makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
If I go to a restaurant, okay, and I order fish,
it is my expectation because I know that fish can
have bones. I expect the fish to have bones because
for the most part, it comes on the bone. But
if I order fish and it's de boned like a
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fish file at, I'm going to have a righteous complaint
if I find bones and because I bought it to
not have the.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Bone, that's how it was advertised.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't see how it's a it's a reasonable assumption
to expect something that was advertised that it's not supposed
to have. It'll be different. It's just fish cutlet. It'd
be different if it's just said chicken parts.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You know. Yeah, you don't know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
But when you are specifically purchasing boneless chicken, the only
expectation is it shouldn't have any bones. Yeah, yeah, not
even that it should taste good, that at the minimum,
it shouldn't have bones because that's what it's being advertised at.
I don't see how anyone can go to any restaurant
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or establishment and consume any product which is completely opposite
how it's being advertised and then blame the customer.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I don't even understand how the court and again this
is an Ohio Supreme Court, so that says a lot.
But how an Ohio Supreme Court rules that boneless chicken
wings can have bones? How does the court even put
that together?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Well? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I mean, if I were to go to the grocery
store and buy some milk, does that mean that there
I should be on guard for bones and the milk,
because again, cows have bones. I'm just trying to follow
the logic here, which there's none.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah. Well, it's like it's.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Like Schrodinger's cat, except in this case it's Schrodinger's bone.
You don't know if there's going to be a bone
in it unlessen until it tears your esophagus, right, right, But.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Still, where does the responsibility lie? Are you saying that me,
as the consumer, it's my fault because my esophagus got
torn by a bone that shouldn't have been in there.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yeah, it's almost as if you have some problem somehow
living in a libertarian hellscape where you're not safe from anything.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I don't know what to do because anything I bought
go ahead, Steffan. I was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
This kind of reminds me of when you watch those
car commercials and you'll see people driving like crazy on
the freeway or driving off road and they have to
put it at the bottom because I'm sure someone did
it closed course with professional driver, and it's like, you
almost It's like, do they have to do that with boneless?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Now, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Can understand people doing stupid things, But in that commercial
to use your analogy, they are not saying that if
you buy this, you get to do that. You know,
they're not making that one to one comparison if I buy, like,
for example, if I buy that truck, to use your analogy,
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I think it's a reasonable assumption that the.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Break should work.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They It shouldn't be on me to assume that the
brakes don't work when I'm giving a car which is
supposedly passed a five point inspection and it's safe to
drive out.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
On the road.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
No, Now, the free market will work all that out
after enough people die. You don't understand how the free
market works clearly.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, and it may not be a wonder one comparison,
But if you give me boneless chicken wings, it's not
a reasonable assumption then it might have bones in it.
It's not a reasonable assumption that it might have feces
in it just because it comes from an animal.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I mean, how I was actually thinking, how far does
this go? Because if I buy, say now a burger,
I buy some meat or anything at a restaurant and
say it's gone bad, right, all these places in California,
you get all these warnings Trader Joe's has the listeria
lettuce or.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Whatever whatever it may be.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Right, are we then to say, well, it's now to
be expected that after a certain point of time food
can go buy it codes you know, right, it's reasonable.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Buy or beware. As Mark said, it doesn't make any sense.
It's strange credulity, as they say that you're going to
blame the person who was wrong and it has a
legitimate medical issue because of the food legitimate. No one
thinks that it's okay that you go to a chicken
joint and there's a good a chance, even a slight
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chance that you may come away with a torn esophagus.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Did you notice in this story if that was the
end of it, or if it's going to be appealed.
I'd like to see this bone thing go all the
way up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
But I don't know what they can do with it.
I don't know if it was dismissed with prejudice or not.
He doesn't say so. I don't know if he can
refile it. I don't know if he can.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I don't know. We need a dispositive bone ruling.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I just don't like what this says for the country
because what starts in Ohio, Now this can be used everywhere.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well, what you're talking about is case precedent, and this
could have all sorts of unintended consequences or even intended
consequences for similar situations where you can point that. Look,
Ohio Supreme Court made it clear that you should expect
bones in your bonus food or if there's a or
let's talk about peanut allergies. If you're so a food
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which is not supposed to have peanuts in it, is
it a reasonable expectation that there might be peanuts in it,
or peanut oil or something which could have a deadly
effect on someone who's allergic to it.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Oh yeah, there's trace elements of peanuts everywhere. How do
you expect to avoid that? I'm being serious, right, trace elements? Absolutely? Yeah,
that's the upshot of all this. You can't trust anything
and it's on you. Good luck, sink or swim, buddy boy.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And there's also the debate that we've had before. You know,
boneless chicken wings. Are they actually wings? I say they are.
They're not what you're saying they're not. That's an adult
chicken nugget.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
A boneless chicken wing is nothing more than an adult
chicken nugget.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Be clear.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Oh so I should have a reasonable expectation that it
didn't come from the wing part of the chicken.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
How do you know if it does. It's not shaped
like a wing anymore. It's not like the MiG rib
where it's shaped like a rib sandwich and has the
bone impressions. That's not what it is. It's not shaped
like a wing. It's just a strip of meat.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Now, Oh so I should have a reasonable expectation that
of an actual bone and a mc rib because it's
shaped like a rib.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Is that what you're.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Saying that they don't need to call it a MiG rib,
that's a mic lie.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Okay, okay, it's Later with mo Kelly KFI AM six
forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. We'll tell you
about the top ten cars stolen right here in California.
You may want to find out if your car is
on the list or if it's already been stolen.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFIAM six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
The National Insurance Crime Bureau Investigation says that one over
one million cars were stolen last year and with an
increase from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three. California
is the state with the largest number of auto thefts
at two hundred and eight thousand, six hundred and sixty eight.
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And just in case you're curious about the ten most
stolen cars here in California, well we have that information
for you. Coming in at number ten Kia Sportage and
I expect a lot of Kias on this list because
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it's the only key uh any only car that you
can steal with a USB cord. Coming in at number
nine of the most stolen cars in California, Ford f
one fifty pick up.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, that's a pop. Its one. Number eight Kia Forte.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Why don't we just say, if you have a Kia,
your ass is on this list. Just skip to the end.
Number seven, Honda Civic. It doesn't say what.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Year, so just assume. Yeah. Yeah, Look, it's always been
a good one.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, I got a Honda Civic, you know, so I've
always thought it eventually was going to get stolen. Coming
in at number six, Honda Cord. That's not surprising. Honda
Cord is usually on the list. And hey, look, we
know a lot of these cars are stolen because they're
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easier to steal, and a lot of these cars are
stolen because they're easy to sell the parts of Coming
in at number five of the most stolen cars here
in California.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Kia Soul. Yeah, if you have a Kia, you won't
for long.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Number four. Wit a man, where's my rim shot? That
was funny as hell?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Was?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Come on now I'll wait. That's not a rim shot.
Yes it is. Give it to me, Thank you very much.
Work in the refs. Coming in at well, we've got
number four, Yeah, number four.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Chevy Silverado fifteen hundred truck obviously coming in at number
three of the most often stolen car in California. Kia Optima,
damn every single brand and model, coming in at number
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two of the most stolen cars here in California, which
has the largest number of auto thefts. Hyundai Sonata. I'm
just asking why you bought one in the first place.
I can at least understand why someone bought a Kia.
Those are kind of nice looking cars. But a Hyundai
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those are some ugly ass cars. And then to think
that you're gonna have it stolen. You stole an ugly
ass car, you bought it and had it stolen. That's
insult to injury. That's for seven eleven robberies. Pretty much
pretty much that in kis do. But see I look
at a kid, It's like, that's a nice looking call.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But they also redesigned them. But the new Hyundais are
pretty nice. They are, I think so, not because I
think I know what you're thinking of, and I can
see why. Like, like, eh, I like that. I like
the new I've always liked Kia. They're kind of sporty.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I like them.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You know, I just wouldn't buy one, and I would
never buy a Hyundai never coming in at number one
according to the National Insurance Crime Bureau of the most
often stolen car here in California.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Anyone want to take a guess.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Who hasn't seen the list and Toyota, camer h Stephan,
any any guests, that's a good guess. Yeah, the Core
would have been my guest, so that's already on the list. Yeah,
I would have said Honda court Mark. Any guests, I
would have guessed Honda as well. That's what I drive
in and I live in perpetual fear of it not
being there when I go out to get into. It's true,
It's true. It's one of those easy access cars. Yeah,
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all right, coming in at number one with the gold medal.
Hyundai Elantra another car I don't understand why anyone has.
And if you're driving one right now, I'm not sorry.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I meant it. I said it a day.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
But who goes to a lot and says, oh, I
gotta have that Hyundai, A Lantra. Just got to get
that Hyundai Sonata. Just have to have a Hyundai. And
I say this, just coming back from Kia. Everybody's driving
a Hunday over there for obvious reasons. Everyone has a Hyundai. Really,
it's a Korean car. Everybody has a Hundai. The taxis
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are Hyundai's, the police cars are Hyundais. Really yeah no,
really that's oh that's kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Well they're keeping out so that if you smash one up,
you can just get get another one out of the closet,
like one of Schroeder's pianos or something.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's not like there's going to be a high speed chase. Okay,
they're not chasing anyone down.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
They don't. They don't need like like a V eight
Interceptor or four Falcon. They don't need a grand Tono charger.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, they don't need any of that.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Look it's a Hyundai. No, no, you.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Weren't going to see a Hyundai and smoking the bandit
or no vanishing points or anything.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's it's like the slow and not very angry, the
cautious and budget conscious.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Go ahead, give it to me, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Two in one segment, it's later with mo Kelly ca
if I am six forty, we are live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app. And did you know that you, as
an adult may be autistic just undiagnosed. We're going to
find out what are some of the signs and symptoms.
That's next Kelly six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
(16:58):
There's a probom that we have on Cafe and it's
talking about how I felt that was weird and awkward
and out of place and everything when I was a
kid and now as an adult, and weird and awkward
and all that kind of stuff. It's true. When I
was a kid, I thought I was really different. There
was something.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I don't know if it was.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Wrong with me, but I perceived the world differently than
other people. And as I got older, I think like, yeah,
I'm still different. Can't put my finger on it. I
just look at the world differently. Not viewpoints, but just
how it appears to me visually. I have a synesthesia
where I see colors and it corresponds to a certain sound,
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Like if I see red, it has a certain note
to it. If I see blue, it has a certain
note to it. All of that other weirdness. When I
was growing up, I had all sorts of OCD and
then I came across this article which talks about the
nine biggest signs of autism and adulthood, so I think
I'm autistic. I don't think so, but there's a lot
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of evidence to support I'm probably pretty near the spectrum,
if not on it. And Mark Runner, I think you
would get a kick out of this as well, because
you and I are very alike in many ways.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I just assume we've all got the same problem.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
No, seriously, I think there's something where we see the
world appears to us very differently than most people. All Right,
here are some of the signs. And this is about
diagnosing autism in adults, not children, but adults. And it's
a recent study found that some eighty percent of adults
with autism are still undiagnosed at age eighteen. And I
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know when I was a child, they were not diagnosing
autism or determining if a child was on the spectrum,
so it wouldn't be something that would even apply to me.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
But as I get older, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Like I have some weird, weird OCD habits that I
remember as a child which were really obsessive, and now
I look back and think, I wonder how how I
would be looked at today.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
The first one is a feeling of being different from others.
All the experts shared that it's common for autistic people
to feel different. Okay, that's kind of vague, but yeah,
that corresponds to at least my feelings growing up. Also
a difficulty with social cues. Someone with undiagnosed autism may
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find that they have trouble deciphering how much eye contact
is appropriate or when they should stop smiling during a conversation.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
That doesn't apply to me. I just assume you never
make eye contact unless you want to be attacked.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, I I had to learn how I have to
think about that because eye contact. A lot of times
I may not look at someone because I'm thinking, and
when you make eye contact with someone sometimes it distracts
you from the thought you're trying to hold. But it's
not an unwillingness that you would see many times with
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autistic children. I know, t while you work with neurodivergent
children and young people are on the spectrum, and you
know how it presents itself.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Yes, I work with children who have a primary diagnosis
of autism at our school, and so that's why when
I look at this list and I look at how
they're defining this as adult autism or autism and adults.
I'm language sounds more like this is just a broad
way to say you may be on the spectrum, which
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would be more accurate because there are significant symptoms and
things that go into an actual autism diagnosis. That this
is covering things that just to me, I'm like, Okay,
you're on the spectrum.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Got it.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
But to say it's it's autism that this is a
bit of a leap.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Also, someone with undiagnosed autism, again with Air, quotes a
confusing relationship history, both romantically or platonically. Well, I don't
know how I should interpret that quote. There might be
relationships that have that kind of suddenly burst apart, but
the autistic person doesn't understand why. When it comes to
the reason behind this complicated relationship history, it's likely that
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the person with autism doesn't know why their relationships fail
when other peoples don't. Well, mine fail because the other
person was wrong. I'm clear, so that doesn't apply to me. Okay,
it's her fault. Sensory differences and this absolutely applies to me.
Sensitivity to sensory input like noise and sight is another
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potential sign of autism. The person is either hyper aware
of a sound or totally unaware. People who are not
autistic tend to be more or less responsive to sensory stimuli.
For example, an autistic person may find that they're constantly
aware of a ticking clock at a friend's house. Here's
a true story. This is why it jumped out of me.
(21:54):
I cannot sleep in a room where there it's a
ticking clock. Well, how could you? I will hear it
all night long, of course, but I'm saying other people
are like, it's just a clock.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I will always hear those subtle sounds because my ears
are attuned to micro sounds. I will hear the dog barking,
I will hear the siren in the distance.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I already told you about synesthesia.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I am really really connected to sound, and sounds can
drive me crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Now outwardly, it's not something.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That I will act out, but it's something inwardly like, look,
you know, I got it. I've taken clocks out of
room and put them in another room because I can
hear the minute ticking. So that's something that jumped out
of me. Here's something else, a desire for routine. Many
people with autism thrive on consistency. If they move homes
(22:47):
or move careers. That could create a season of insomnia
or anxiety. That is me all day. I do not
like change. If you know me, I wear basically the
same stuff every week.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I'm being I'm being honest. Oh no, we both do. Yeah, yeah,
I'll wear my polos, the same polos, the same shoes, socks.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And because it's about comfort and consistency.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Well, I think of it in terms like the Einstein thing,
where you don't want to use up your bandwidth figuring
out what to wear. Right, if most of your stuff
looks the same, that's less garbage you have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
In a given day, I will obsess in my closet
about what I Am going to wear it and still
end up with the same stuff. I will obsess about
did I lock the door?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But now I can do it from my apps, I
don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I will obsess like when I'm leaving my Dojong did
I lock the door? And I will It will just
it will consume me and I'll think about it like
I forgot. I mentally didn't remember whether I locked the
door to the Dojong, my martial arts gym, when I
was leaving. I have a key and it just bothered
me all weekend because I didn't want to You.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Like that too, Yes, same, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
If I don't have the mental memory of actually turning
it off or whatever, I will be obsessed with it.
And there are other things that I'm not going to
discuss on the year, but they're just things that I
will obsess over because my mind won't let it go.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
In other words, bathroom things. But a lot of this
falls under compulsive obsessive. This I'm saying, it's it's on
the spectrum. If that's why when I see that, when
I saw this story, I'm like, who wrote this? Someone
who literally is giving such a broad brushing of what
they think autism is. And and that's why this, this
(24:37):
whole article is. I'm like, change, change the titles. You
know nine biggest signs you are successive, you have poll CD,
you may make it done.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, let's go on. It says a need for solitude.
That's me quote needing solitude for recharge after social situations
or really over stimulating situations. For example, when I leave
here at twally, you know, when I close out the mic,
if I aim SINX forty, we're live everywhere in I
heeartradio app and I.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Lock out for the night. How soon before I've hit
my car.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Oh, by the time I turn around, I turn around and.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Talking about solitude when I'm driving home, and oftentimes when
i'm driving in there's no sound. I do not have
the radio one other times if I'm listening to Nori,
but that's about it. But a lot of times it's
complete silence.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You're raw dogging it like the young kids on airplanes.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, but I want to be able to completely disconnect completely.
I don't want any sound, I don't want any stimuli.
I just need to completely That's why I'm saying like, nah,
I'm not saying that I am, but.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It makes me think about it.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Well, on some level, these things are kind of like
horoscopes too, though, where they're so vague, so general, they
apply to everybody, and there's also a lot of overlap
and the symptoms from one thing to another. OCD, the
spectrum whatever. I mean, how could you miss anybody with
some of this stuff?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
All right?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
How about this more intense interests? That's more OCD. We
can skip off from that one. No I fit that
descript that I resemble that most to this. A dislike
of small talk. That's me all day. I hate going
to cocktail parties and engaging in small talk.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Hate it.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yeah, I always feel like there's a basketball shot clock.
There's like fifteen seconds before I say something that's going
to horrify somebody and end my career.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Right, And there are social cues which keep me from
being a complete a whole, but it's not natural for me,
which leads into the next one. I'm sorry, step. A
desire for direct communication.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I need to go. I need to go from A
to B. Say what you mean, get, let's get let's
skip to the end, please, I was gonna do you
one better.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Like talking about cocktail parties, I'll sometimes slow down so
I don't get on the elevator with someone that I
don't know. Yes, yes, because I don't want to have
that uncomfortable moment, because I don't want to look at you,
I don't want to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And it's really it's really difficult.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And I was talking to everyone of like, hey, when
I'm not at work, I don't talk about work, and
if by chance someone should recognize me and they go
into the conversation, I'm not trying to be rude, but
I'm probably not up for the small talk.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
It's it's hard for me. It really really is difficult
for me.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I can talk, obviously, it's what I do, but I'm
saying it's not my comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
We're really lotistic. Maybe maybe, but there's always something.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And I've noticed about personality radio personalities by and large
were weird. No, the people that I've worked for socially awkward,
all crazy. I am not going to talk about any
people here. You can come to your own conclusion about
Bill Handled, jock O, belt Tip, Cobway Junior. I'm just
saying because I'm not going to speak about them, but
I'm saying the people I've worked for definitely definitely weird.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Well, you have to be a little bit crazy just
to get into this line of work. But just to specify,
all of the authority figures we work for are perfectly normal.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
They're perfectly normal and no problems whatsoever. Nothing unkind to
say about any of them. No, no, no, not any
of them at all.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Look at the time, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty through.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Over last segment.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
But we have to continue this conversation because I know
someone was listening when we were talking about adult autism undiagnosed,
how it may present itself, and you know, in our
everyday lives and if you have a certain age, you
might not have been diagnosed.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
It was very general, but.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It got me thinking about some of my quirks, some
of my idiosyncrasies, some of my massive OCD that I
struggled with to this day. And then our news editor
Bethany Brown came running down the hall and Bethany, what
did you.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Say to us?
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I said, Oh, my gosh, I cannot believe you're having
this conversation right now because I was just talking about
it earlier and I felt like it related to me,
or I related to the conversation so much.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I struggle with my OCD.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Like I didn't say on the air, I wear ankle
socks because if I wear longer socks, I have to
pull them up all day long.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I have to make.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Sure that the seam of my sock is not touching
my foot, or I will take off my shoe wherever
I am so I can make sure my.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Sock is correct. It can be debilitating at times.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think for me I recently was
talking to a psychoanalyst that I have because I've I've
introduced the idea that I might be autistic or somewhere
on the spectrum, and they explain to me that OCD itself,
which I'm diagnosed with, is extremely similar in certain ways.
(29:46):
For example, when you get overstimulated as you talked about earlier,
with like loud noises and things like that and kind
of becoming like emotionally reactive to being overstimulated. So they said,
the biggest difference is just autism is an intellectual disability
and OCD is more of a mental disability, a mental health.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
All I know is I'm different, Okay, Yeah, like I'm
trying to be diagnosed or claim the title of being
autistic or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I just know that the world doesn't present itself to
me the same as other people. No, Yes, I mean
you talked about like that.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You remind me of just how I eat food and
everything I eat the same food. I get California fish
grill every single day, every day, the exact same food
because I know it's going to taste a.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Certain way and it'll keep me calm. And I'm being serious, separated.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You do not let uh you know, you know, and
you don't eat the leftovers all those things.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yes, from least to most.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
It's your safety, it's your safe place. You're like, this
food makes me feel safe. I've had it a billion
times and I know.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's gonna make me feel good or at least I'm
gonna enjoy it. I'm not gonna like experiment with the
food new No.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
But the difference, the difference with especially with some of
the children and some of the young. When I say children,
i'm talking young adults as well that work with there
is that you do not want to because it makes
you uncomfortable, I say, with you, But you can intellectually
you can. You can sit there and you can eat
this food in a specific order, versus children who literally
(31:25):
cannot without there being a shut down, an actual shutdown
and a behavior.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Let me jump in there, because like, for example, I
cannot sleep with drawers open in my room. I cannot
sleep with like drawers cabinets open downstairs in the kitchen.
I will get out of the bed and go downstairs
into the kitchen and close all the cabinets and drawers
in the drawers in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Before I can go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm barely at the point where I can go to
sleep with the closet door open.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Severe OCD y Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
As someone who's diagnosed, I can say so.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Since we're diagnosing people, what's wrong with mark? Oh, don't
get me started. How much time do we have?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Well, first of all, if the closet door is open,
then whatever's in there is going to come out as
soon as you close your eyes.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Well that's yeah, that goes back to childhood. But that
wouldn't be my OCD. Okay can if?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I am six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I don't know what you're thinking, and I kind of
like that.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Keep it funk f I'm kost HD two, Los Angeles,
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