August 20, 2024 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A recap of the Democratic National Convention; Night One - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Remember what we did with the rn C, Well, we're
going to do the exact same damn thing with the DNC.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
In fact, Night one heavy hitters.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Right now on the stage is former Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton. Lists Drop in and see what she's talking about.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
We're not just electing a president. We're uplifting our nation.
We're opening the promise of America wide enough for everyone.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Together.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
We put a lot of cracks in the highest hardest
glass ceiling, and tonight, tonight so close to breaking through
once and for all.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I want to.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Tell you what I see through all.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Those cracks, and why it matters for each in every
one of us.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
What do I see?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I see freedom.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I see the freedom to make our own decisions about
our health, our lives, our loves, our families. The freedom
to work with dignity and prosper to worship as we
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choose or not, to speak our minds freely and honestly.
I see freedom from fear and intimidation, from violence and injustice,
from chaos and corruption. I see the freedom to look
our children in the eye and say in America, you
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can go as far as your hard work and talent
will take.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
You and mean it. And you know what, And the.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Other side of that glass ceiling is Kamala Harris raising
her hand and taking the oath of office as our
forty seventh President.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Of the United States.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Because, my friends, when a barrier falls for one of us,
it falls, it falls and clears the way for all
of us. So for the next seventy eight days, we
need to work harder than we ever have. We need
to beat back the dangers that Trump and his allies
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pose to the rule of law and our way of life.
Don't get distracted or complacent. Talk to your friends and neighbors. Volunteer,
be proud champions for the truth and for the contre.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
That we all love of.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I want, I want my grandchildren and their grandchildren to
know I was here at this moment, that we were here,
and that we were with Kamala Harris every step of
the way. This is our time, America.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
This is when we stand up.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
This is when we breakthrough the future's hair.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
It's at our grass.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Let's go win it.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
These former Secretary of State former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton,
addressing the DNC, we'll be bouncing in and out the
first night.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well let me let me back up.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I remember when I was I think it was second grade,
because yeah, it was second grade, because it was missus
Cochrane's class, and she, bless her heart, to her credit,
she was the one who made it a point of
teaching basically government to second graders. We were learning about
Carter versus Ford and how we would elect a president,
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and I remember thinking, wow, this is so interesting, at
least in a second grader's mind.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But I can pinpoint that time. That was the moment I.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Think I started to fall in love with the American
political process. Of course it doesn't look like that now,
but I'm saying back then it sparked this interest in
me and I because it was later that year during
that same election, I was watching the DNC and the
RNC for the first time. But I remember watching the
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DNC and I was mesmerized by the keynote speaker Night one.
And the keynote speaker of Night one is usually someone
who's really really talented as an orator, possibly a future
leader or presidential hopeful in the party. So the night
one keynote speaker in a conventional cycle would have someone
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who's going to set the tone, and there was this speaker,
the late Congresswoman Barbara Jordan, one of the best orators
I have ever heard.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
If I could do anything one tenth of.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
What she did that night or what she did during
nixon impeachment pre impeachment hearings, one of the greatest orators ever.
But it sparked my interests in just following politics and
how I fell in love with it to this day
and I haven't missed an RNC or a DNC, at
least on TV ever since. And this is a night,
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I think where we can actually celebrate, as we did
a month ago, celebrate how we go about electing a
president in this country. And I know it's real easy
to be partisan, it's real easy to be cynical. But
if you take a step back and take your personal
desires out of it, you should be just kind of like, oh,
this is kind of cool how the country, regardless of
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your political stripes, is coming together to choose our next leader.
It's not often it's not often that you have a
sitting president who's not running for reelection. You usually have
an incumbent or a two term president who's termed out.
But this is where I said this earlier today in
my television hit. We're living through extraordinary times and if
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you don't realize it, then you don't grasp the enormity
of the moment. I'll say the magnitude of the moment.
And we are living through history. The idea of an
incumbent president four months before the election stepping aside and
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VP stepping up. We had something similar in nineteen sixty
eight with President LBJ and Humphrey, but not like this.
It was much more contentious the Democratic Party. They basically
had a a fight, a war on the floor of
the convention. As far as nominating someone else, that's not
what's happening here in Chicago. But I would say, really
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pay attention to how this process is coming together, regardless
of who you're rooting for, and we will be listening
to some of the heavy hitters. Not often do you
have three presidents or former presidents speaking at one convention.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's just unheard of.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And you would have had four if President Carter wasn't
on his literal deathbed. So that's something something can be historic,
and you don't have to like it. Just know that
we are living through history some of the big heavy hitters.
Tonight in day one, Sean Fain, president of the United
Auto Workers Union. Of course you heard Secretary Clinton, the
first lady, Joe Biden will be speaking and the keynote,
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which is really odd.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You don't have a sitting president do a keynote.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Usually the sitting president is the person that you're renominating,
which on the final night, which is customarily Thursday. But
to have Joe Biden speaking the first night tells you
how unusual all of this is. And we'll bring that
to you later on. I have some other thoughts about
our political process, where we are at this time in America,
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and so much more. I don't get to talk as
much politics here or later with Mo Kelly. I usually
do it for my other properties. You might have seen
me on Spectrum. No, you didn't see me on Spectrum
because you were all asleep. I was on Spectrum in
sixth fifteen, six thirty in the morning, bleary eye.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's just woo. This day cannot end soon enough. That
was only like twelve hours ago. Were just getting started.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I know, I know, we'll help more, just a moment.
It's Later with Mo Kelly caf I AM six forty.
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Speaker 1 (08:47):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, the DNC is going right now. Just in case
you didn't know, KFI is owned. Gary and Shannon are
broadcasting live all this week from the city of Chicago
covering the DNC. I'm just playing around the periphery. We
will drop in and out of the convention. But it
got me nostalgic for when I was growing up and
fell in love with the American political process, before we
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had all this partisanship or the different type of partisanship
that we have today. It was a much more civil time.
It was a much more conventional time. That's the word
I would use. And you got to learn the process.
As far as how in a party sense, we go
about choosing our eventual president, and oftentimes I hear from
people sie, we need to have more parties. We need
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to have more than a two parties system. We've always
had more than two parties. You don't think the Green
Party is a party? Do you remember the Constitution Party?
What about Peace and Freedom? Oh Ross Perot when he
was running as an independent. He was for a while
he was part of the Reform Party. And if you
really want to go back Strom Thurman and the Dixiecrats,
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of course, the Libertarian Party, the Alliance Party, if you
really want to dig in the weeds. My point is
we've always had other options. So why did we always
end up with a Republican or a Democrat. Well, it's
pretty simple. It's because those parties have infrastructure. Those parties
have people on the ground who are working to get
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people elected at off levels in government other than just president.
You know, you've never heard about a Green Party candidate
for governor. You never heard about a Green Party candidate
for mayor or, I don't know, comptroller, insurance commissioner, because
they're not a functioning party on that level.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
They will have their convention air quotes.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Well, they'll go to I don't know, a holiday inn
somewhere in San Diego on a Friday night. They'll get
liquored up, have a rage and Keiger, and then they'll
come out Sunday and say, Jill Stein is our nominee.
You have noticed that they don't have an actual primary. Why,
because parties get to choose their nominees. However, they want
the whole primemary system. A lot of people don't know
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what they don't remember. It didn't even include It did
not include all fifty states until well until the nineteen seventies,
and it wasn't even both parties at that point. The
primaries are just a marketing survey. For a lot of
the twentieth century, they just had, you know, a few states.
They would just say, hey, you very important states, what
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do you think about this person or that person?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Then they come up with a nominee.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Now the selection process is much more comprehensive. You got
all fifty states, and then they start tweaking the rules
about who's allowed to vote in the primaries. Well, it's
a closed primary, so you have to be a registered Republican.
It's a closed primary. You have to be a registered Democrat.
You independents, you can't vote in these primaries, like in California,
it's a closed primary. I'm an independent, I can't vote
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in the presidential primaries.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
So you know, they don't want to hear what I
have to say. But it's evolved and it's a marketing survey.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And I've used the analogy before, but I think it
still holds. It's like these parties are private corporations. Call
it McDonald's, call it gravenus missile McDonald's. They do what
they sell hamburgers. Now, they may ask you, you know,
they may email you and say, hey, what do you
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think about us selling I don't know, hot dogs. And
they'll go around and they'll ask Mark Ronald, they'll ask Steph,
and they'll ask me, they'll ask to all of they
may even ask Chris Little. Of all people, they may
ask Chris Little, hey, what do you think about selling
hot dogs at McDonald's. And let's say, hypothetically, all of
us say, you damn right, I want to eat hot
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dogs at McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You know what McDonald's is gonna do.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They're gonna say, Okay, thank you for you know, you're
filling out the survey, thank you for your time. Here's
a free coupon for a file of fish. But since
we're McDonald's, we're going to just go ahead and stick
with hamburgers. Maybe we'll even sell some chicken nuggets and
even say what you asked us. Yes, but it's just
an opinion survey. That's what primaries are. That's how they
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can change the rules. That's how they can have someone
like Joe Biden be forced out and step aside. And
then Tamala Harris talking about tonight, can step right in
and he said, oh my gosh, you've undermined democracy. No,
it is a private marketing survey. It's not a public election.
People don't understand how their own country works, or their
own party works for that matter. That's why the Democrats
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can do what they've done. No, you can't sue because
they've already written this into the bylaws for the eventuality
just like this. You can say delegates, super delegates, whatever.
You can say it's rigged, you can say it's fixed. No,
it's actually a private corporation working in its own best interests,
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and its own best interests were to win the election.
And they knew that if we have Joe Biden in November,
we're going to get our asses kicked. So they made
a corporate decision and said, Joe, we need you to
step aside for the good of the party. But I
don't want to step aside.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
We need you to step aside for the good of
the parties, not just you. It's about down ballot races.
We're going to lose the House, We're going to lose
the Senate, We're going to lose the Oval office. If
your old ass is on the ballot in November. That's
why we are here where we are. And it's not
very different. I was talking about the Green Party how
they went to the hotel Holiday Inn and San Diego
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for the weekend. It's not very different from that. Parties
get to choose their candidate however they see fit. The
rules for the Republicans are not the same as the
rules for the Democrats. And when you opt in as
in you register as a Democrat or you register as
a Republican, then you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Know you're going to like the rules or you're not
going to like the rules. But the rules are the rules.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Them as the rules, as they say, and they created
them for the benefit of the party. And remember how
they pushed Hillary Clinton aside when Barack Obama was running
and seeing like he was going to win. But it
was it was neck and neck down to the end.
It could have been a contested convention. And then the
party leadership went to Hillary and said, Hills, Uh, for
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the good of the party, we need you to step aside.
Because we need to have a unified convention. And Hillary said,
I don't want to step aside a chance I can
still win this.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
No, but it will.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Create party friction and we'd have a broker convention and
we can't have that going into the election. There are
all sorts of examples like this, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.
They said, Bernie, we need you to step aside. It's
got to be Hillary. Gotta have a united party. This
is not unusual. The only thing unusual is you had
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a sitting president four months before the election.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
And they pushed him aside. But that's how parties work.
These aren't public elections. It's not like you're saying you're
making my vote not matter. It never did matter.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's it's it's it's McDonald's. It's der venus missile.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Now. On the other other hand, you can say Dervenus sstil.
They try to sell everything.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
They try to sell hamburgers, they try to sell hot dogs,
they sell corn dogs, chili dogs, I think, chicken fingers,
and it never.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Gets them anywhere. Hey, did they still have that Jerina
nutsil across the street? Are they still open?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I think so. Someone to go because I'm hungry now.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
If polypsyde classes were more tube steak based, like the
explanations that you're giving right now, everybody would have gotten
better grades.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All I'm saying is if you put it in terms
that people kind of understand and relate to, it makes
it all better. Now, Stefan, I know you got to work,
but during this break, I would like two corn dogs
and a chili cheese dog.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Please, I'll pay for it. You don't. You don't like
chili cheese dogs. Oh, I know I'm gonna know.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
If I had that, I would pay for it, and actually, oh,
y'all would pay for it too.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
But it would taste good going down. Oh my goodness,
it's so good.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Don't you eat stuff every now and then because you
have a taste for it, and then it reminds you
why you don't eat it all the time like that.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
No, but I guess I understand what you're saying. Place
is like, you'll never forget that I have.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
A taste for I do have a taste for jernastcil
all the time. I pass it every single day and
I tell myself no every single day. But there's going
to come a day in which I'm going to be
weak and I'm going to get into temptation. Stay strong,
So Rina stcil is good. I don't care what anyone says.
That stuff tastes good.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I have never once eaten what never once? Wow? You
half black men have never eaten it? As that's how
is this a black thing? Come on, dude, well you
got to explain it to Okay, let me just say, okay,
have you ever eaten at church Is Fried Chicken? No?
Have you ever eaten at pop Eyes? Once?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I was gonna say, Pioneer he barely at KFC for
the first time? True, I really, Oh my goodness, that's
right because we had to introduce you to soul food.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It's shameful, isn't it. I got a lot of learning
to do.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Okay, Stephan, do you need like my card or what
it's Later with mo Kelly? Can't I answers forty We're
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Speaker 1 (18:04):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 6 (18:10):
Let me ask you this. Do you think Jimmy is
roaming around the White House tonight trying to find a
meat loaf to warm himself up?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
On.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I don't think the cod is the neat loaf.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Who the hell today?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Erodicman Georgia.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
I am so shiit of Washington and Orleans whites and
all them politicians down there, and them congressman.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And the congressman.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Boy, I bet you will find none of them congressman
signing down their electric blackest tonight. Of course, if they
did their secretaries to get up and go home. Oh readers,
the Democrats is doing the whole of the Democratic and
you put him in there. It's the place sha head
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on you when you come back in the polls. But
the Democrats way or running. This car used to go
tell us all how we ought to make sacrifices.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
God dig great that night stuff.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
But they're all gonna have us over the hill to
the poorhouse. We ain't gonna be able to drive over
there because we ain't got no guess. We're gonna have
to walk it. Well, the reader Digest says walking is
very good for you. That ain't that lovely to read us?
Die just can always put a little joy into poverty,
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can't h.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Then we're gonna tell her alive everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app and I was talking with Mark Ronner during the
break and just to let you know, Mark Ronner, I
have seen just about every episode of every Norman Lear
show there is. I wouldn't say I have an encyclopedic
memory of them, but I remember certain sentiments and episode
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and storylines. And I just remember that soliloquy from Archie Bunker.
So I just said, oh, I got to go find it.
And it was, Thank goodness YouTube it was there.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
That's off, brilliant cut, that's off, and it's so aproa
po It still fits today if you if you if
I played more of it, he goes into his conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It was press yet it was almost it was it
was almost like predicting the future on steroids.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Oh Lear was a genius.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Absolutely, question, But we're talking about the DNC and politics
more generally. Will drop in and out if it warrants it.
What's going on in Chicago? Something else I want to
talk about with regard to Chicago. Kamala Harris, vice President,
hasn't had any missteps as of yet, but this is
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still a I wouldn't say a dangerous moment, but I
would say it is a delicate moment for the Democratic Party.
Given the protests which have already started in Chicago. Yes,
they're going to be protests, and it's not going to
be clear whether it's protests just about Gaza, or if
it's anti Israel, or is it anti Joe Biden with
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respect to policy on Israel and Gaza.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
How that's all going to shake out.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But it's more a question of how it's going to
be covered and whether it starts to take away any
real emphasis on the DNC. If the story becomes more
about the protests than the DNC itself, then the Democrats
have a huge issue. And there's no real prediction out
there as far as which way it will go. You know,
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protests are unpredictable. Of course you're gonna have provocateurs. Of
course you're gonna have agitators. But the only thing I
can like it it too. When I was working in
my previous radio gig, we went to both the DNC
and RNC in two thousand and eight. In two thousand
and eight it was in Denver, and there are a
lot of protesters out there for this, that and the other.
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But what they did was the protesters could not get
within half a mile of the arena. I mean, yeah,
you could protest, but you are so far away from
the press and the goings on of the convention it
didn't matter. Now, without seeing the lay of the land
in Chicago, I'm pretty sure that they probably did the
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same thing where you're not getting anywhere near the convention center.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Do you not get the impression from some of the
coverage that we've all seen that some in the press
are kind of rooting for something like the sixty eight convention.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Absolutely, no, they want to be part of that. Yes,
they want to be able to cover it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
They I think every reporter, and I'm going to generalize
every reporter, every news person wants to have their own
historical moment where they get to be a voice of
history in some way.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
But they're committing that quantum physics observational fallacy thing by
you know, observing it and being a part of it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You affect the outcome, right, You're not supposed to be
part of the story. And I think part of it
is what is it wish casting? Maybe yeah, yeah, I
think that's part of it. But it is I think
fair to acknowledge that that is a component of the story.
We just don't know whether it's going to be a
major part of the story or nothing at all.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
I'll tell you what it reminds me of is all
the hack journalists that we heard predicting a recession because
it would have given him something, something exciting to report on,
and it never happened.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Well, it was a prediction of recession for more than
one presidential election cycle. Now it is fair to say
that we are due for one, and we if we
were to use history as a guide, Yeah, if we
didn't have a pandemic and we didn't have other factors
to artificially prop up our economy for an extended period
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of time, I think possibly would have hit recession.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I actually thought there would have been one.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
But is I believed based on you know, the voluminous stuff.
I consumed that a lot of reporters were rooting for
a recession because they thought that'd be sexier to report
on than good news.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, let's think about this.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
There was a time near the end of the Trump
administration when when back when the Dow Jones and a
stock market actually mattered. It doesn't matter now as an
economic indicator, but back then its supposedly mattered. Where we
had dropped down to eighteen thousand, and that was one
point I thought, Okay, we might be heading that way.
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But then, you know, but that was also running parallel
to the pandemic. So we had interest rates frozen at zero,
which never happens, I mean never, So you had things
working against the working for a recession.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
If that makes sense, it does.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
My point is that I just I'm seeing more than
I ever really have noticed in my life of mainstream,
big time journalists trying to put a thumb on the
scale because it will benefit them.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Well, I think big time journalists these dates are usually
connected to a cable news network, and that I think
clouds the issue where it's less about journalism and more
about the individual, not the outlet.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Yeah, them becoming journalism stars, selling books, getting access to
people they didn't have access to before.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It's really quite a wonder to behold, and not in
a good sense.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Tough if I'm wrong, But I don't remember in the
nineteen eighties or nineteen seventies in which every major journalist
had a book that they were selling. No you reported
the news wood Word in Bernstein. I don't think they
did their book until way down the road.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I can't answer that I don't know that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Well, put it this way, every major reporter anchor has
a book now, every single one.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
I mean there's the whole generation of journalists who were
inspired by Woodward in Bernstein. Me it was Carl Koleshe
at the Nightstalker. What we all have our journalism models.
Mine was Coleshak.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Well, honestly, for me, I was always a Cronkite fan.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Oh of course, if only because he was. And also.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Jim Gray, because I remember very faintly his his call
for the Munich Olympics with the Israeli athletes and that
how he handled that live in the moment, and those
are the things that just stick with me, is like,
that's a prob.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Do you remember that call?
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Only in the most skeletal way, but I mean, just
what he said, they're all gone, Okay, so you're talking
about the kidnapping, yes, yes, the Munich Olympics.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Okay, okay, right right right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That type of journalism where you're you're dealing with news
as it's happening in front of you, and you're trying
to put some sort of perspective on something, which is
it's just completely unprecedented, completely unheard of, and you're trying
to keep it together yourself and trying to explain seemingly
the inexplicable.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, historic, for sure. It's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
We're waiting around to see when President Joe Biden is
going to speak right now. I believe Ashley Biden is
on the stage right now, and we know that Joe
Biden is going to close out this first night of
the DNC, and we will have his remarks live when
they come.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (27:34):
It's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app as we're I
guess monitoring the DNC right now. Senator Raphael Warnock of
Georgia is speaking that a long way before, long way
to go before we get to President Biden, so we'll
just keep monitoring it. I've made a mistake last segment,
I said Jim Gray regarding the Munich Olympics. I met
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Jim McKay, but you know, it gets all garbled in
my mind. We're talking about broadcasts, anchors, journalism, how it's
changed our expectations of what is news, how we figure
out what to believe what not to believe, an ongoing
conversation we've had as far as misinformation disinformation. Now, when
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you throw in social media AI and the intentional attempts
to mislead the public with a lot of these videos,
these memes, even Google ads and so forth, it makes
it real, real, difficult for anyone to be able to
separate truth from fiction. And part of it, that's that's
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the design to keep people confused and unsure. It's like,
wait minute, is that allegation true or is that rumor true?
Or did that really happen? Did so and so really
do that fifteen twenty years ago? And so you just
have a confused, overall uninformed populist. And I'm sorry that
it's gotten to this point because I started tonight talking
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about when I first fell in love with the American
political system as a child, and I remember clearly, distinctly
what it was like then. Yes, you had some partisanship,
but there was still a spirit of unity moving the
country forward. And I'm not romanticizing, and I remember what
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it was like when you had Speaker of the House
Tip O'Neil and President Ronald Reagan who vehemently disagreed in
a policy sense, but they weren't disagreeable, and they were
able to get some sort of legislation through. It seems
like now if you don't have a president of a
certain party and total control of both houses, the country
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can't move forward. And it didn't use to be that way.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Whether we'll ever get back to a functioning government, I
don't know. Probably not in my lifetime. Mark Ronner's a
little younger than me. He might live long enough to
see it. Definitely stefan, but I'm not going to be
here to see it. My plan is to go out
before you. I'm working on it. I try to tell
people all the time I am a confirmed cynic, and
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being a confirmed cynic, I can't put too much faith
in anybody or anybody's party, elected official or anything like that.
Now there are some deal breakers, there's some politicians I
can never support under any circumstances. But I don't limit myself.
I vote for Republicans and Democrats. But I am a
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person who's really big on decency, dignity.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And decorum. What I know.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Imagine that respect for the office and put it this way.
I hold people of higher office to higher standards. Why,
because the responsibilities are greater. I'm not want to judge
a presidential candidate as on the same level that I
would someone who's running to be fry cook at McDonald's. Sorry,
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I know that sounds really dismissive and condescending, but it's true.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I don't look at those positions equally.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
I have to choose my words very carefully here, So
let me focus on what you said about history. You
were talking about the sixty eight convention and LBJ stepping
down to your point about how much things have changed,
and what you implied was how far through the looking
glass we are right now? Just think about Watergate, how
little that was a couple break ins in a cover up.
Compare that to what's happened in the last half dozen years.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Well, think about the cover up talking about Richard Nixon,
and it wasn't the cover up. Well it was a
cover up, but it wasn't until we knew that there
were a White House tapes that everything fell apart, because
up until that point the cover up was covering.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Right.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
But what I'm saying is that compared to what we've
seen just recently, that's like a hangnail.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Oh yeah, and that happened over the course of many
months and years. A political news cycle now could be
five or six minutes what we were discussing last week, Like,
for example, a month ago, we were talking about a
presidential assassination attempt and how that was leading into the
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RNC and how seemingly at that point all the momentum
was with former President Trump. That was just a month ago,
and here we are in the world looks completely different.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Doesn't mean that Kamala Harris is gonna win, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I'm just saying how the political process has evolved in
such a such.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
A short time. It's just ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, we've
always had dirty politics. Let's not be under any illusions here.
I mean, we remember that Nixon played a role in
delaying peace in Vietnam to put a thumb on the election.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Well, we always talk about Nixon and we kind of
skip over for Spiro Agnew.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Who well you know who was convicted on completely.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Unrelated bribery charges while he was in office.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
And people think like he had to do a Watergate. No,
he had nothing to do with Watergate. No, no, no,
he was dirty all in his own right.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Right on his own having nothing to do with Nixon,
and because I guess you know, we had two different
vice presidents in one administration because of Nixon.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And not having to do with Nixon.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
But think about how Nixon stepped down after Goldwater told him,
if you don't, you're gonna get it. That is a
different universe than we live in today.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, I don't know if there's anything even comparable to
think that you have a sitting president there was a scandal,
and then the Republicans went to him and said, if
you do not resign, we will impeach you and then
remove you from office. Because there was enough support back
then on both sides of the aisle for.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
This unethical, probably illegal thing that you just did, instead
of like, well, just brazen it out.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
We got this, just ride it out.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And then to think, all this time later, we're debating
air quotes presidential immunity, when if not for the pardon
of Gerald Ford, most likely Richard Nixon would have been prosecuted.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Historians that I have been reading say that that was
one of the biggest mistakes in US history pardoning Nixon.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, you know, Jerald Ford was saying, and the same
argument which is being made today with former President Trump.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
It was quote unquote for the good of the nation.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
And I don't know if the nation benefited because they
didn't prosecute Richard Nixon. Because I think it's set forth
a dubious precedent that we're seeing where it's head today.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
It's like how you know, if you don't rub your
dog's nose in something right afterwards, they think it's okay
to keep want it.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Remember what we did with the rn C, Well, we're
going to do the exact same damn thing with the DNC.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
In fact, Night one heavy hitters.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Right now on the stage is former Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton. Lists Drop in and see what she's talking about.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
We're not just electing a president. We're uplifting our nation.
We're opening the promise of America wide enough for everyone.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Together.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
We put a lot of cracks in the highest hardest
glass ceiling, and tonight, tonight so close to breaking through
once and for all.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I want to.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Tell you what I see through all.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Those cracks, and why it matters for each in every
one of us.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
What do I see?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I see freedom.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I see the freedom to make our own decisions about
our health, our lives, our loves, our families. The freedom
to work with dignity and prosper to worship as we
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choose or not, to speak our minds freely and honestly.
I see freedom from fear and intimidation, from violence and injustice,
from chaos and corruption. I see the freedom to look
our children in the eye and say in America, you
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can go as far as your hard work and talent
will take.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
You and mean it. And you know what, And the.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Other side of that glass ceiling is Kamala Harris raising
her hand and taking the oath of office as our
forty seventh President.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Of the United States.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Because, my friends, when a barrier falls for one of us,
it falls, it falls and clears the way for all
of us. So for the next seventy eight days, we
need to work harder than we ever have. We need
to beat back the dangers that Trump and his allies
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pose to the rule of law and our way of life.
Don't get distracted or complacent. Talk to your friends and neighbors. Volunteer,
be proud champions for the truth and for the contre.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
That we all love of.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I want, I want my grandchildren and their grandchildren to
know I was here at this moment, that we were here,
and that we were with Kamala Harris every step of
the way. This is our time, America.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
This is when we stand up.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
This is when we breakthrough the future's hair.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
It's at our grass.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Let's go win it.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
These former Secretary of State former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton,
addressing the DNC, we'll be bouncing in and out the
first night.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well let me let me back up.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I remember when I was I think it was second grade,
because yeah, it was second grade, because it was missus
Cochrane's class, and she, bless her heart, to her credit,
she was the one who made it a point of
teaching basically government to second graders. We were learning about
Carter versus Ford and how we would elect a president,
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and I remember thinking, wow, this is so interesting, at
least in a second grader's mind.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
But I can pinpoint that time. That was the moment I.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Think I started to fall in love with the American
political process. Of course it doesn't look like that now,
but I'm saying back then it sparked this interest in
me and I because it was later that year during
that same election, I was watching the DNC and the
RNC for the first time. But I remember watching the
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DNC and I was mesmerized by the keynote speaker Night one.
And the keynote speaker of Night one is usually someone
who's really really talented as an orator, possibly a future
leader or presidential hopeful in the party. So the night
one keynote speaker in a conventional cycle would have someone
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who's going to set the tone, and there was this speaker,
the late Congresswoman Barbara Jordan, one of the best orators
I have ever heard.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
If I could do anything one tenth of.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
What she did that night or what she did during
nixon impeachment pre impeachment hearings, one of the greatest orators ever.
But it sparked my interests in just following politics and
how I fell in love with it to this day
and I haven't missed an RNC or a DNC, at
least on TV ever since. And this is a night,
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I think where we can actually celebrate, as we did
a month ago, celebrate how we go about electing a
president in this country. And I know it's real easy
to be partisan, it's real easy to be cynical. But
if you take a step back and take your personal
desires out of it, you should be just kind of like, oh,
this is kind of cool how the country, regardless of
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your political stripes, is coming together to choose our next leader.
It's not often it's not often that you have a
sitting president who's not running for reelection. You usually have
an incumbent or a two term president who's termed out.
But this is where I said this earlier today in
my television hit. We're living through extraordinary times and if
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you don't realize it, then you don't grasp the enormity
of the moment. I'll say the magnitude of the moment.
And we are living through history. The idea of an
incumbent president four months before the election stepping aside and
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VP stepping up. We had something similar in nineteen sixty
eight with President LBJ and Humphrey, but not like this.
It was much more contentious the Democratic Party. They basically
had a a fight, a war on the floor of
the convention. As far as nominating someone else, that's not
what's happening here in Chicago. But I would say, really
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pay attention to how this process is coming together, regardless
of who you're rooting for, and we will be listening
to some of the heavy hitters. Not often do you
have three presidents or former presidents speaking at one convention.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's just unheard of.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And you would have had four if President Carter wasn't
on his literal deathbed. So that's something something can be historic,
and you don't have to like it. Just know that
we are living through history some of the big heavy hitters.
Tonight in day one, Sean Fain, president of the United
Auto Workers Union. Of course you heard Secretary Clinton, the
first lady, Joe Biden will be speaking and the keynote,
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which is really odd.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You don't have a sitting president do a keynote.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Usually the sitting president is the person that you're renominating,
which on the final night, which is customarily Thursday. But
to have Joe Biden speaking the first night tells you
how unusual all of this is. And we'll bring that
to you later on. I have some other thoughts about
our political process, where we are at this time in America,
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and so much more. I don't get to talk as
much politics here or later with Mo Kelly. I usually
do it for my other properties. You might have seen
me on Spectrum. No, you didn't see me on Spectrum
because you were all asleep. I was on Spectrum in
sixth fifteen, six thirty in the morning, bleary eye.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's just woo. This day cannot end soon enough. That
was only like twelve hours ago. Were just getting started.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I know, I know, we'll help more, just a moment.
It's Later with Mo Kelly caf I AM six forty.
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Speaker 1 (08:47):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, the DNC is going right now. Just in case
you didn't know, KFI is owned. Gary and Shannon are
broadcasting live all this week from the city of Chicago
covering the DNC. I'm just playing around the periphery. We
will drop in and out of the convention. But it
got me nostalgic for when I was growing up and
fell in love with the American political process, before we
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had all this partisanship or the different type of partisanship
that we have today. It was a much more civil time.
It was a much more conventional time. That's the word
I would use. And you got to learn the process.
As far as how in a party sense, we go
about choosing our eventual president, and oftentimes I hear from
people sie, we need to have more parties. We need
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to have more than a two parties system. We've always
had more than two parties. You don't think the Green
Party is a party? Do you remember the Constitution Party?
What about Peace and Freedom? Oh Ross Perot when he
was running as an independent. He was for a while
he was part of the Reform Party. And if you
really want to go back Strom Thurman and the Dixiecrats,
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of course, the Libertarian Party, the Alliance Party, if you
really want to dig in the weeds. My point is
we've always had other options. So why did we always
end up with a Republican or a Democrat. Well, it's
pretty simple. It's because those parties have infrastructure. Those parties
have people on the ground who are working to get
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people elected at off levels in government other than just president.
You know, you've never heard about a Green Party candidate
for governor. You never heard about a Green Party candidate
for mayor or, I don't know, comptroller, insurance commissioner, because
they're not a functioning party on that level.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
They will have their convention air quotes.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Well, they'll go to I don't know, a holiday inn
somewhere in San Diego on a Friday night. They'll get
liquored up, have a rage and Keiger, and then they'll
come out Sunday and say, Jill Stein is our nominee.
You have noticed that they don't have an actual primary. Why,
because parties get to choose their nominees. However, they want
the whole primemary system. A lot of people don't know
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what they don't remember. It didn't even include It did
not include all fifty states until well until the nineteen seventies,
and it wasn't even both parties at that point. The
primaries are just a marketing survey. For a lot of
the twentieth century, they just had, you know, a few states.
They would just say, hey, you very important states, what
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do you think about this person or that person?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Then they come up with a nominee.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Now the selection process is much more comprehensive. You got
all fifty states, and then they start tweaking the rules
about who's allowed to vote in the primaries. Well, it's
a closed primary, so you have to be a registered Republican.
It's a closed primary. You have to be a registered Democrat.
You independents, you can't vote in these primaries, like in California,
it's a closed primary. I'm an independent, I can't vote
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in the presidential primaries.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
So you know, they don't want to hear what I
have to say. But it's evolved and it's a marketing survey.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And I've used the analogy before, but I think it
still holds. It's like these parties are private corporations. Call
it McDonald's, call it gravenus missile McDonald's. They do what
they sell hamburgers. Now, they may ask you, you know,
they may email you and say, hey, what do you
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think about us selling I don't know, hot dogs. And
they'll go around and they'll ask Mark Ronald, they'll ask Steph,
and they'll ask me, they'll ask to all of they
may even ask Chris Little. Of all people, they may
ask Chris Little, hey, what do you think about selling
hot dogs at McDonald's. And let's say, hypothetically, all of
us say, you damn right, I want to eat hot
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dogs at McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You know what McDonald's is gonna do.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They're gonna say, Okay, thank you for you know, you're
filling out the survey, thank you for your time. Here's
a free coupon for a file of fish. But since
we're McDonald's, we're going to just go ahead and stick
with hamburgers. Maybe we'll even sell some chicken nuggets and
even say what you asked us. Yes, but it's just
an opinion survey. That's what primaries are. That's how they
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can change the rules. That's how they can have someone
like Joe Biden be forced out and step aside. And
then Tamala Harris talking about tonight, can step right in
and he said, oh my gosh, you've undermined democracy. No,
it is a private marketing survey. It's not a public election.
People don't understand how their own country works, or their
own party works for that matter. That's why the Democrats
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can do what they've done. No, you can't sue because
they've already written this into the bylaws for the eventuality
just like this. You can say delegates, super delegates, whatever.
You can say it's rigged, you can say it's fixed. No,
it's actually a private corporation working in its own best interests,
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and its own best interests were to win the election.
And they knew that if we have Joe Biden in November,
we're going to get our asses kicked. So they made
a corporate decision and said, Joe, we need you to
step aside for the good of the party. But I
don't want to step aside.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
We need you to step aside for the good of
the parties, not just you. It's about down ballot races.
We're going to lose the House, We're going to lose
the Senate, We're going to lose the Oval office. If
your old ass is on the ballot in November. That's
why we are here where we are. And it's not
very different. I was talking about the Green Party how
they went to the hotel Holiday Inn and San Diego
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for the weekend. It's not very different from that. Parties
get to choose their candidate however they see fit. The
rules for the Republicans are not the same as the
rules for the Democrats. And when you opt in as
in you register as a Democrat or you register as
a Republican, then you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Know you're going to like the rules or you're not
going to like the rules. But the rules are the rules.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Them as the rules, as they say, and they created
them for the benefit of the party. And remember how
they pushed Hillary Clinton aside when Barack Obama was running
and seeing like he was going to win. But it
was it was neck and neck down to the end.
It could have been a contested convention. And then the
party leadership went to Hillary and said, Hills, Uh, for
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the good of the party, we need you to step aside.
Because we need to have a unified convention. And Hillary said,
I don't want to step aside a chance I can
still win this.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
No, but it will.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Create party friction and we'd have a broker convention and
we can't have that going into the election. There are
all sorts of examples like this, Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.
They said, Bernie, we need you to step aside. It's
got to be Hillary. Gotta have a united party. This
is not unusual. The only thing unusual is you had
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a sitting president four months before the election.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
And they pushed him aside. But that's how parties work.
These aren't public elections. It's not like you're saying you're
making my vote not matter. It never did matter.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's it's it's it's McDonald's. It's der venus missile.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Now. On the other other hand, you can say Dervenus sstil.
They try to sell everything.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
They try to sell hamburgers, they try to sell hot dogs,
they sell corn dogs, chili dogs, I think, chicken fingers,
and it never.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Gets them anywhere. Hey, did they still have that Jerina
nutsil across the street? Are they still open?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I think so. Someone to go because I'm hungry now.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
If polypsyde classes were more tube steak based, like the
explanations that you're giving right now, everybody would have gotten
better grades.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All I'm saying is if you put it in terms
that people kind of understand and relate to, it makes
it all better. Now, Stefan, I know you got to work,
but during this break, I would like two corn dogs
and a chili cheese dog.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Please, I'll pay for it. You don't. You don't like
chili cheese dogs. Oh, I know I'm gonna know.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
If I had that, I would pay for it, and actually, oh,
y'all would pay for it too.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
But it would taste good going down. Oh my goodness,
it's so good.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Don't you eat stuff every now and then because you
have a taste for it, and then it reminds you
why you don't eat it all the time like that.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
No, but I guess I understand what you're saying. Place
is like, you'll never forget that I have.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
A taste for I do have a taste for jernastcil
all the time. I pass it every single day and
I tell myself no every single day. But there's going
to come a day in which I'm going to be
weak and I'm going to get into temptation. Stay strong,
So Rina stcil is good. I don't care what anyone says.
That stuff tastes good.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I have never once eaten what never once? Wow? You
half black men have never eaten it? As that's how
is this a black thing? Come on, dude, well you
got to explain it to Okay, let me just say, okay,
have you ever eaten at church Is Fried Chicken? No?
Have you ever eaten at pop Eyes? Once?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I was gonna say, Pioneer he barely at KFC for
the first time? True, I really, Oh my goodness, that's
right because we had to introduce you to soul food.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It's shameful, isn't it. I got a lot of learning
to do.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Okay, Stephan, do you need like my card or what
it's Later with mo Kelly? Can't I answers forty We're
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Speaker 1 (18:04):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 6 (18:10):
Let me ask you this. Do you think Jimmy is
roaming around the White House tonight trying to find a
meat loaf to warm himself up?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
On.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I don't think the cod is the neat loaf.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Who the hell today?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Erodicman Georgia.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
I am so shiit of Washington and Orleans whites and
all them politicians down there, and them congressman.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And the congressman.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Boy, I bet you will find none of them congressman
signing down their electric blackest tonight. Of course, if they
did their secretaries to get up and go home. Oh readers,
the Democrats is doing the whole of the Democratic and
you put him in there. It's the place sha head
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on you when you come back in the polls. But
the Democrats way or running. This car used to go
tell us all how we ought to make sacrifices.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
God dig great that night stuff.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
But they're all gonna have us over the hill to
the poorhouse. We ain't gonna be able to drive over
there because we ain't got no guess. We're gonna have
to walk it. Well, the reader Digest says walking is
very good for you. That ain't that lovely to read us?
Die just can always put a little joy into poverty,
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can't h.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Then we're gonna tell her alive everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app and I was talking with Mark Ronner during the
break and just to let you know, Mark Ronner, I
have seen just about every episode of every Norman Lear
show there is. I wouldn't say I have an encyclopedic
memory of them, but I remember certain sentiments and episode
(20:00):
and storylines. And I just remember that soliloquy from Archie Bunker.
So I just said, oh, I got to go find it.
And it was, Thank goodness YouTube it was there.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
That's off, brilliant cut, that's off, and it's so aproa
po It still fits today if you if you if
I played more of it, he goes into his conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It was press yet it was almost it was it
was almost like predicting the future on steroids.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Oh Lear was a genius.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Absolutely, question, But we're talking about the DNC and politics
more generally. Will drop in and out if it warrants it.
What's going on in Chicago? Something else I want to
talk about with regard to Chicago. Kamala Harris, vice President,
hasn't had any missteps as of yet, but this is
(20:53):
still a I wouldn't say a dangerous moment, but I
would say it is a delicate moment for the Democratic Party.
Given the protests which have already started in Chicago. Yes,
they're going to be protests, and it's not going to
be clear whether it's protests just about Gaza, or if
it's anti Israel, or is it anti Joe Biden with
(21:14):
respect to policy on Israel and Gaza.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
How that's all going to shake out.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But it's more a question of how it's going to
be covered and whether it starts to take away any
real emphasis on the DNC. If the story becomes more
about the protests than the DNC itself, then the Democrats
have a huge issue. And there's no real prediction out
there as far as which way it will go. You know,
(21:43):
protests are unpredictable. Of course you're gonna have provocateurs. Of
course you're gonna have agitators. But the only thing I
can like it it too. When I was working in
my previous radio gig, we went to both the DNC
and RNC in two thousand and eight. In two thousand
and eight it was in Denver, and there are a
lot of protesters out there for this, that and the other.
(22:04):
But what they did was the protesters could not get
within half a mile of the arena. I mean, yeah,
you could protest, but you are so far away from
the press and the goings on of the convention it
didn't matter. Now, without seeing the lay of the land
in Chicago, I'm pretty sure that they probably did the
(22:24):
same thing where you're not getting anywhere near the convention center.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Do you not get the impression from some of the
coverage that we've all seen that some in the press
are kind of rooting for something like the sixty eight convention.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Absolutely, no, they want to be part of that. Yes,
they want to be able to cover it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
They I think every reporter, and I'm going to generalize
every reporter, every news person wants to have their own
historical moment where they get to be a voice of
history in some way.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
But they're committing that quantum physics observational fallacy thing by
you know, observing it and being a part of it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You affect the outcome, right, You're not supposed to be
part of the story. And I think part of it
is what is it wish casting? Maybe yeah, yeah, I
think that's part of it. But it is I think
fair to acknowledge that that is a component of the story.
We just don't know whether it's going to be a
major part of the story or nothing at all.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
I'll tell you what it reminds me of is all
the hack journalists that we heard predicting a recession because
it would have given him something, something exciting to report on,
and it never happened.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Well, it was a prediction of recession for more than
one presidential election cycle. Now it is fair to say
that we are due for one, and we if we
were to use history as a guide, Yeah, if we
didn't have a pandemic and we didn't have other factors
to artificially prop up our economy for an extended period
(23:53):
of time, I think possibly would have hit recession.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I actually thought there would have been one.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
But is I believed based on you know, the voluminous stuff.
I consumed that a lot of reporters were rooting for
a recession because they thought that'd be sexier to report
on than good news.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, let's think about this.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
There was a time near the end of the Trump
administration when when back when the Dow Jones and a
stock market actually mattered. It doesn't matter now as an
economic indicator, but back then its supposedly mattered. Where we
had dropped down to eighteen thousand, and that was one
point I thought, Okay, we might be heading that way.
(24:33):
But then, you know, but that was also running parallel
to the pandemic. So we had interest rates frozen at zero,
which never happens, I mean never, So you had things
working against the working for a recession.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
If that makes sense, it does.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
My point is that I just I'm seeing more than
I ever really have noticed in my life of mainstream,
big time journalists trying to put a thumb on the
scale because it will benefit them.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Well, I think big time journalists these dates are usually
connected to a cable news network, and that I think
clouds the issue where it's less about journalism and more
about the individual, not the outlet.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Yeah, them becoming journalism stars, selling books, getting access to
people they didn't have access to before.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It's really quite a wonder to behold, and not in
a good sense.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Tough if I'm wrong, But I don't remember in the
nineteen eighties or nineteen seventies in which every major journalist
had a book that they were selling. No you reported
the news wood Word in Bernstein. I don't think they
did their book until way down the road.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I can't answer that I don't know that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Well, put it this way, every major reporter anchor has
a book now, every single one.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
I mean there's the whole generation of journalists who were
inspired by Woodward in Bernstein. Me it was Carl Koleshe
at the Nightstalker. What we all have our journalism models.
Mine was Coleshak.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Well, honestly, for me, I was always a Cronkite fan.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Oh of course, if only because he was. And also.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Jim Gray, because I remember very faintly his his call
for the Munich Olympics with the Israeli athletes and that
how he handled that live in the moment, and those
are the things that just stick with me, is like,
that's a prob.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Do you remember that call?
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Only in the most skeletal way, but I mean, just
what he said, they're all gone, Okay, so you're talking
about the kidnapping, yes, yes, the Munich Olympics.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Okay, okay, right right right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That type of journalism where you're you're dealing with news
as it's happening in front of you, and you're trying
to put some sort of perspective on something, which is
it's just completely unprecedented, completely unheard of, and you're trying
to keep it together yourself and trying to explain seemingly
the inexplicable.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, historic, for sure. It's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
We're waiting around to see when President Joe Biden is
going to speak right now. I believe Ashley Biden is
on the stage right now, and we know that Joe
Biden is going to close out this first night of
the DNC, and we will have his remarks live when
they come.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
It's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app as we're I
guess monitoring the DNC right now. Senator Raphael Warnock of
Georgia is speaking that a long way before, long way
to go before we get to President Biden, so we'll
just keep monitoring it. I've made a mistake last segment,
I said Jim Gray regarding the Munich Olympics. I met
(27:58):
Jim McKay, but you know, it gets all garbled in
my mind. We're talking about broadcasts, anchors, journalism, how it's
changed our expectations of what is news, how we figure
out what to believe what not to believe, an ongoing
conversation we've had as far as misinformation disinformation. Now, when
(28:21):
you throw in social media AI and the intentional attempts
to mislead the public with a lot of these videos,
these memes, even Google ads and so forth, it makes
it real, real, difficult for anyone to be able to
separate truth from fiction. And part of it, that's that's
(28:42):
the design to keep people confused and unsure. It's like,
wait minute, is that allegation true or is that rumor true?
Or did that really happen? Did so and so really
do that fifteen twenty years ago? And so you just
have a confused, overall uninformed populist. And I'm sorry that
it's gotten to this point because I started tonight talking
(29:04):
about when I first fell in love with the American
political system as a child, and I remember clearly, distinctly
what it was like then. Yes, you had some partisanship,
but there was still a spirit of unity moving the
country forward. And I'm not romanticizing, and I remember what
(29:28):
it was like when you had Speaker of the House
Tip O'Neil and President Ronald Reagan who vehemently disagreed in
a policy sense, but they weren't disagreeable, and they were
able to get some sort of legislation through. It seems
like now if you don't have a president of a
certain party and total control of both houses, the country
(29:52):
can't move forward. And it didn't use to be that way.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Whether we'll ever get back to a functioning government, I
don't know. Probably not in my lifetime. Mark Ronner's a
little younger than me. He might live long enough to
see it. Definitely stefan, but I'm not going to be
here to see it. My plan is to go out
before you. I'm working on it. I try to tell
people all the time I am a confirmed cynic, and
(30:17):
being a confirmed cynic, I can't put too much faith
in anybody or anybody's party, elected official or anything like that.
Now there are some deal breakers, there's some politicians I
can never support under any circumstances. But I don't limit myself.
I vote for Republicans and Democrats. But I am a
(30:40):
person who's really big on decency, dignity.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And decorum. What I know.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Imagine that respect for the office and put it this way.
I hold people of higher office to higher standards. Why,
because the responsibilities are greater. I'm not want to judge
a presidential candidate as on the same level that I
would someone who's running to be fry cook at McDonald's. Sorry,
(31:08):
I know that sounds really dismissive and condescending, but it's true.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I don't look at those positions equally.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
I have to choose my words very carefully here, So
let me focus on what you said about history. You
were talking about the sixty eight convention and LBJ stepping
down to your point about how much things have changed,
and what you implied was how far through the looking
glass we are right now? Just think about Watergate, how
little that was a couple break ins in a cover up.
Compare that to what's happened in the last half dozen years.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Well, think about the cover up talking about Richard Nixon,
and it wasn't the cover up. Well it was a
cover up, but it wasn't until we knew that there
were a White House tapes that everything fell apart, because
up until that point the cover up was covering.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Right.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
But what I'm saying is that compared to what we've
seen just recently, that's like a hangnail.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Oh yeah, and that happened over the course of many
months and years. A political news cycle now could be
five or six minutes what we were discussing last week, Like,
for example, a month ago, we were talking about a
presidential assassination attempt and how that was leading into the
(32:20):
RNC and how seemingly at that point all the momentum
was with former President Trump. That was just a month ago,
and here we are in the world looks completely different.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Doesn't mean that Kamala Harris is gonna win, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I'm just saying how the political process has evolved in
such a such.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
A short time. It's just ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, we've
always had dirty politics. Let's not be under any illusions here.
I mean, we remember that Nixon played a role in
delaying peace in Vietnam to put a thumb on the election.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Well, we always talk about Nixon and we kind of
skip over for Spiro Agnew.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Who well you know who was convicted on completely.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Unrelated bribery charges while he was in office.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
And people think like he had to do a Watergate. No,
he had nothing to do with Watergate. No, no, no,
he was dirty all in his own right.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Right on his own having nothing to do with Nixon,
and because I guess you know, we had two different
vice presidents in one administration because of Nixon.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And not having to do with Nixon.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
But think about how Nixon stepped down after Goldwater told him,
if you don't, you're gonna get it. That is a
different universe than we live in today.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, I don't know if there's anything even comparable to
think that you have a sitting president there was a scandal,
and then the Republicans went to him and said, if
you do not resign, we will impeach you and then
remove you from office. Because there was enough support back
then on both sides of the aisle for.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
This unethical, probably illegal thing that you just did, instead
of like, well, just brazen it out.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
We got this, just ride it out.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And then to think, all this time later, we're debating
air quotes presidential immunity, when if not for the pardon
of Gerald Ford, most likely Richard Nixon would have been prosecuted.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Historians that I have been reading say that that was
one of the biggest mistakes in US history pardoning Nixon.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, you know, Jerald Ford was saying, and the same
argument which is being made today with former President Trump.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
It was quote unquote for the good of the nation.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
And I don't know if the nation benefited because they
didn't prosecute Richard Nixon. Because I think it's set forth
a dubious precedent that we're seeing where it's head today.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
It's like how you know, if you don't rub your
dog's nose in something right afterwards, they think it's okay
to keep want it.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
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