August 21, 2024 • 44 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on Jennifer Lopez’ announcement that she’s filing for divorce from Ben Affleck AND a conversation with Actor Aspen Kennedy, who joins the program to preview his powerful new Sony Pictures film ‘The Forge,’ which tells the story of “a high school graduate with no plans for the future, until the prayers of his mother and guidance from a new mentor, show him that his life can be so much more than he could hope for or imagine” … PLUS - A look at the Weekend Box Office AND how Tubi has become one of the most exciting streaming services - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio Apps nine two of
the DNC.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And there's some publicity one oh one going on. Do
you what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, well, conventional wisdom is, if you want to bury
some bad news, release it when there is a much
bigger event going on.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
If you want to hide something, hide it.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
During the DNC where most of our attention is turned
to politics, things of a political nature, like say, hypothetically,
if you wanted to get divorced for the fourth time,
announce it that you're filing divorce, Like maybe during the
DNC where you have a lot of entertainers performing and
(00:51):
they're not thinking about you, Jay Lou Ben Affleck. But
that's what happened today. We're gonna talk about the DNC.
We gotta talk about j Lo and Ben Affleck. J
Loo filed for divorce today, filed for divorce. Evidently there
was no pre nup, there's no settlement, so there might
(01:11):
be a long protracted battle in court for a number
of houses and trinkets and probably multiple rings.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Let me talk about rings. For a second.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Jennifer Lopez gorgeous woman. Probably wouldn't like her as a person,
but gorgeous woman. She's been married now four times, four marriages,
four failed marriages. She's been engaged but didn't get married
two times. One of those two times was Ben Affleck,
but he gave her a different ring both times. So
(01:45):
if my math is correct, Jennifer Lopez has six rings.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Six rings.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Now I have to ask this of Mark Ronner because
he's never been married, and I think he would best
appreciate this.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Thank God.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Imagine asking someone to spend the rest of their life
with you and my student alone, yes, course, okay. For
someone to say yes, you would think it's a considerable serious.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Question upon her right. One would think, okay, what one
would think, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
But imagine that person saying yes six times. Six times
you're asked the question, will you please spend the rest
of your life with me? And you said yes because
all six times you were asked that we know of
could be more. You thought that the person standing in
front of you was the person you could see yourself
(02:43):
spending the rest of your life with. When I guess
when actuality, it was only the next two three years
your soulmate.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, yes, six six rings. Let me put it in
another perspective.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You know how many six rings is comparatively speaking?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Brian only had five rings?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, Magic Johnson only had five rings.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Stephen Curry had four. What's left to believe in? Honestly?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Now Tom Brady had seven rings? Okay, so she's on
his level.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
When Tom Brady walks into the place, he has seven rings.
When j Loo walks in, she has six rings. They
can have a conversation. Is it the same kind of achievement?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Really? Well, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You know they might even get married because they've both
been recently divorced, so you never know.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Both involved scoring.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Hey oh come on, hey, no, if he didn't give
me a rim shot for my rings jokes, I don't
get that. You know, why don't he keep him around here?
He's only here for the rim shot. That's the only
reason he's here. He had one job and he couldn't
do that. If you're gonna be here, be here all
the way.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Foosh.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
But I was actually being kind of serious for her,
as in j Lo to announce that she's fouled for divorce.
Don't think for a moment a person who who call everything,
who is meticulous in how she curates her public life.
Don't tell me that didn't she didn't choose this exact
moment to help bury or at least soften the thud
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of announcing her fourth divorce.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well that's what you pay your PR team for.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
She's got people, absolutely, and this is on the heels
of her canceling her music tour. Remember she was supposed
to go on tour and had to cancel that. So
she's canceling her tour and her marriage within the same
thirty days. It's been a rough going for j Lo.
So what you're saying is she's available. She is available,
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at least in a marital sense.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I don't know. Emotionally, if she's available, she might need
some therapy.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well who is, Honestly, look at me, I'm a mess.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, but you've been pretty stable in your life, Okay,
I can think comparatively speaking. Look, your last relationship has
lasted how long roughly, I don't know, but it's like
the more than two years.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It's like Fitzgerald said, the hemingway, the rich, the celebrities,
they're different from you and me.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Moo, No, no, they really are because and I would
not want to trade places with her and her life.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I would not want to trade places with any of
her husbands.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Look, Jalo was fine as frog legs, as they say, gorgeous,
but after six failed marriages and engagements, the only common
thread is you.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It's you, boo, it's you, it's you.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And remember, if they got the divorce or they're getting
divorced after two years, that means they were thinking.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
About divorce a good year ago.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Okay, It's not like you woke up on Sunday and said,
you know what, I'm thinking about divorce in this fool If.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
The Tuesday you file, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
She was thinking about filing a good six seven months
ago at least, So it had to have been absolute
hell prior to you start thinking about filing for divorce
and all the legal and financial considerations you gotta make
before you actually filed, and you have to sit down
with your publicist we were talking about that, and you
have to gain plant out what you're gonna say on
social media, all of that.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It must have been hell from almost the beginning.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I think we're gonna get more of those memes with
Ben Affleck sitting at the table, smoking a cigarette, looking miserable.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Look to be very serious.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
We all know that Ben Affleck has a substance abuse
drinking problem, right, He's been very transparent about that. This
doesn't help, Oh, this does not help at all. I'm
pulling for him, I'm really really pulling for him. But
six rings, dog, six rings, And don't think she's done.
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Don't don't think that she Obviously she's someone who feels
the need to be with someone.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Maybe just try going steady for a bit, don't jump
right to engagement.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, no one said you had to say yes, you know,
just because these guys keep asking her, don't know why?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Well I could.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I could posit a guess, but it'll be really really
crass and really really inappropriate to speculate in such a
way on the radio. We wouldn't want that, and someone
would call me a male chauvinist, and someone would call
me a pig. Heaven forbid, I mean more than they
usually do, And I'm unlike, this is not the place
to have that conversation. But I could posit a couple
of reasons why men keep popping the question?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But who wants to be Number seven?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Who's going to be the guy who says, Jennifer Lopez,
will you please marry me? I don't care about all
the other guys. I don't care. I only see you
and me.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Will you please get my name patooed on your flesh
somewhere strategic.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
We'll we come back. We're going to go to the
other side of the spectrum. We're going to tell you
about this new movie which is going to be hitting
theaters on Friday. It's called The Forge and at Star As.
Ben Kennedy will join us on the show next because
later with Mo Kelly k IF. I am six forty
Live Everywhere Art Radio app. You owe me some rim shots, Stefan.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You know that right? He owes you nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Silence, I got you Wibo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
One Kay.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Six We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Character Isaiah
Wright he needs to grow up, he needs to mature.
He's a year out of high school, no plans for
his future, and of course he's struggling to find his
footing as an adult.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We all might remember that time in our lives.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
But through the prayers of his mother as well as
biblical mentorship from a community leader, Isaiah begins to discover
God's purpose for his life. That's the story behind The Forge,
which hits theaters nationwide Friday and stars Askeden Kennedy, who
joins me right now on the show, asks, been good
to meet you this evening.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
How you doing, sir?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Pretty good? Excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Man, you're a Tennessee kid, Jackson State University, educated, guided
by faith. That doesn't seem like the beginning of a
tip of Cole Hollywood movie career. Tell me about your
journey from Memphis to Hollywood.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Yeah, man, So, like you said, I was born and
raised in Memphis, Tennessee. I was there until I was eighteen.
I went to Jackson State University studying mass communications. But
I didn't want to be a news reporter or journalism.
But I know I want to do something with television.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Hey, hey, what you didn't want to be a news
reporter or do?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
You don't work really hard? You guys worked really hard.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
But yeah, so you know, I observed the time and
the commitment it takes, you know, the long news hours.
I was like, man, like, I know I want to
do something with television, but I didn't really understand what
it was. So I took a course my sophomore year.
It was fundament as of acting, and I fell in
love with it. I was like, man, this is the
first class that I feel like, this is what I
want to do. And I wish I had the class
every single day. But almost I took the class. I've
been pursuing it ever since.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Man, you've been very public in your faith and how
it has guided your life and career. Were you ever
concerned as you move up this ladder in entertainment that
your career choice is may not be in a line
with your faith journey.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
It's very interesting because the more I think about it now,
I get excited because truly, on a personal level, I
know what all that I know like there has been
nothing I've been able to accomplish without God opening that door.
So like if I felt like I had to quiet
myself down, that's disrespect to say God, like, You've.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Done all these things for me.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
But I'm gonna be hush now because someone may be
offended versus like people don't wake me up every single day.
You know, God is my provider, He gives me life,
he opens doors. So it's just like, you know, I
share that in a way to inspire people to say, hey, like,
you know, people are enthused about the movies, the television,
but I'm like, man, behind the scenes, you guys don't
see what God has done behind the scenes before I
got to this position. So it's just like I just
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want to share that good news and for everybody to
know that, you know, when it trust God, he can
open amazing doors for you.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Let me say this and offer this as a fellow
person of faith and been in this business a long time,
I hope you know that you will have to be
confronted with decisions that you will have to go to
Him and ask for a wise counsel order thy steps.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know that right?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Oh yeah, I've been saying no to projects before, and
it was just like even in that sense of him
giving me the opportunity to say, Okay, this isn't a
project that I believe that I want to associate with
or like to be it's not going to give the
impact that the tops of stories that I want to tell,
and me saying no to those things, I was like, man,
that was kind of like it felt uncomfortable. However, right
after that, the project that you know, the forest came
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or like I did a Western earlier this year. A
project came before that I turned down, and then that
bigger project came. So I'm like, every time he's giving
me a test to say no, he's brought something better.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
And that's been the case so far.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Let's get into the Ford since you just mentioned it there.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Your role of Isaiah right is one which may ring
true for a lot of people. As I was mentioning
in the introduction, we've all gone through these what I
call vicissitudes of life, these transition periods were we're not
sure what he has for us or what we should
be doing. How would you describe Isaiah when we meet him?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, so he's a.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Nineteen year old recently graduated high school and he's been
abandoned by father, and you know, he doesn't have that
clear sense of direction for his life.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
He's not responsible.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
However, he does have a praying mom that doesn't relent
in her prayers and her love towards him, but she
also understands that, hey, he has to grow in character
and responsibility. And God answers their prayer for her and
sends him a businessman that not only gives him a
job opportunity, but he also walks with him through discipleship
and teaches him biblical principles that change his life for
the better.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Your grandfather, Joe, this is my dad told me he
was gonna fix it over with me.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
This is the way he left him.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Like everything else, you are my son.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
But I'm giving you one month to find a job,
or you can find one of your little friends that's
gonna let you sleep on their couch for free.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
To help you.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm just trying to talk to the young lady right here.
I need for you to leave my shop right now.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I'm gone, and I'm gonna beat back even that's up
right there.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Your father, would you?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I ain't him? You acting like him?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
Boy, It's hard for a woman to call out the
man and her son.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I just need some prayer support.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I'm just trying to see about a job, right I
ain't hit about nothing with you a salesman for this company.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I'm the president, that's real.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
More.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
When you were going through this role and you're preparing
for this role, what did you use, what came to mind?
What did you draw upon in your own life?
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Truly, when I say the film and the script was
so impactful and powerful to the point where as I'm
reading and I'm like, you know, from the actor brain,
you want to make sure you hit every bead, you
have monologues, you want it to be the best performance ever.
But it was a thing where I was reminded in
the sense of it, the Holy Spirit of was just like, hey,
don't make this about yourself, because the moment that I
idolized like I have to give this perfect performance, then
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I'm watering down the whole purpose for the film. So
I literally had to pray God, hey, help me express
this film, help me express his scene. And having the
Prayer Warriors zone set to be able to pray over me.
That definitely was an experience to be able to not
just act out a scar versus like, Hey, it was
also an experience for me as well.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I'm curious, what do you hear from family members who
have known you before you were an actor to who
you are and where you are now, And what do
you hear from fans who are receiving you just through
your work.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, it's been really cool because you know, again, I
say this humbly and graceful, like I've been able to
express my faith and share my faith to a point
over the years to a point where people who have
actually been following my journey, it's just like God has
literally opening like we've been watching your journey, Like it's
really cool to see where He's taking you now. And
I'm just like, man, like, I'm here for the riote.
I'm super excited about it. But people are really inspired
(14:37):
themselves to be able to say man like, even my
close friends, I'm like, he's like, bro, like I really
want to take my prayer seriously. I really because I'm
seeing what God is doing in your life. And it
goes back to his word of like, hey, if you
exalt me, I will draw people to you.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
But as they come to me, it's like I'm.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Like, hey, it's not about me, you guys, what you feel.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Is all Him. So that's been encouraging to be able
to be a vessel man.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, talk about being a vessel.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
But also I would say this your form of ministry,
this is your way of I don't want to say proselytize.
I'm not putting it in that respect, but you know
it's the outward sign of your inward grace.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Do you ever feel like it's a heavy burden?
Speaker 6 (15:15):
I feel like the sense of Heaveness couldn't be like
weight versus like Okay, I have a responsibility to allow
the Lord to pour himself out into me, so I
won't miss moments of even simple moments of speaking up
to people if it's out in public, not just everything
around film, but saying okay, how can I make sure
that I mirror my life in my relationship and my
marriage and my friendships and just being even a great
(15:36):
a better stranger to people to say, hey, how can
I show up within myself and allow you know, the
love to be shown through me through like Christ through me.
So like honestly, man, it goes beyond film, like you said,
in terms of this ministry, knowing that hey, any platform
that we have, we have a responsibility to love on people,
to serve them, and just to show them how God
sees them if their plays right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
What would you like to be the takeaway for someone
who may see The Forge when it hits theaters this
Friday opens nationwide, who may not be coming from a
faith based foundation, who may not have who may not
have caught all the references that we may have made
in this conversation. We're just going to see a movie,
what would you hope they get out of it?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Truly?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
The fact that you know when we sometimes we don't
understand things like when we surrender, and I know that's
the term people may not understand as well, but like
things in our life that we don't have questions, if
we're hoping for things or we're searching for purpose, that
that's the perfect place to be in because it gives
God all the more room to be able to come
in and make himself known. So knowing that, hey, when
you trust God with things, even if you don't know
how to stresses, say God, this is going on in
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my life, but I trust you with an access you
show up for me in a way that I can
only never deny. Then He will show up, and then
God will give you the like you said in the beginning,
he will order yourselfs to say, Hey, this is why
I'm taking you.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
And thank you for just reverencing me. And I feel
like that's so important.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
The Forge hits theaters nationwide this Friday, asking Kennedy, congratulations
and we wish you well in your future endeavors your
success as our success.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Congratulations with my friend, Thanks so much, Bro.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
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mo Kelly when we come back, we'll talk about the
box office returns for.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
The week and is there a new number one? We'll
find out.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (17:30):
And I have to unfortunately begrudgingly, unwillingly, Hey, Mark Roner,
A compliment kills you, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
It hurts me to the core, I can tell. And
I went.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
To see Alien Romulus on the strength of his review,
and I was.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I was a bit ambivalent.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I wasn't sure about what to think of it because
I had seen enough Alien Universe movies which fell very short.
I was really really, I really was a high anticipation
of Prometheus.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That really let me down.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Oh that let everyone down, believe me.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Then I saw Alien Covenant. It's like, what are we
doing here? It really didn't pick up from where it
left off with Prometheus. It didn't answer the questions that
it asked in Prometheus, and it went in a completely
different direction. They made I think they wasted Michael Fassbender
in many respects.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I'm a good rug though, didn't they Yeah, but that's
about it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, And so I was about done with the Alien franchise.
Then I heard the review of Mark Ronner and he
was so high on it. Not unrealistically, but it sounded
like someone who loved the original Alien thanks to Ridley
Scott and that world in universe which was created around
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the character Ripley. And you said that there were some
callbacks and some direct references. You didn't give it away.
But when I saw the movie, I saw all of that,
and I appreciated most of it. Some of it was unnecessary,
some of it was a bit on the nose, but
I thought it was a fine and fitting addition to
the Alien universe. It not only advanced the story put
(19:23):
its way, we found out more, we learned more. And
it said, yes Prometheus mattered. Yes, Alien Covenant mattered, and
we can debate to what degree. But they didn't just
make those movies and then just throw them aside.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
No, whatever, pardon me, whatever you think of the flaws,
and there were several, you didn't walk out of the
movie thinking, oh my God, stop making these put this
out of my misery.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I did not think that at all.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It came in at number one this week with forty
two million domestically. That's pretty decent. Worldwide, it's one hundred
and thirteen million. It's going to make it money back.
It's another R movie, so I don't expect it to
do too many multipliers. I don't know the budget on this.
I mean, look it up. Eighty million, okay, So he's
(20:11):
already making money at this point. So it is a
hit as far as its production company is concerned. And
I would I wouldn't mind going back to that universe
again the way they told the story. I'll say this,
and it's true for many of the Alien movies now,
most of the characters are disposable. That one thing which
(20:31):
is very different is there are no stars in this movie.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
No.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I mean, we know the star Kaylee Spiney of from
Civil War, which we both enjoyed, and she was in
the Priscilla movie, which I didn't see.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I didn't, But I wouldn't consider her a star at
this point. She's not a household name, correct, Yeah, and
so yeah, I recognize her, but it's not like and
and I guess that kind of is reminiscent of the
original Alien.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I mean, I think who was in it, well, John Hurt.
The biggest actor at the time. Who was in it
was Tom Scarett, and even he wasn't that super well
known at the time.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So and I think, you know, it was going for
a different look.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It wasn't like they were going for the classic superstar
look or uh you know, it's not like Ripley was.
Sigourney Weaver was a classic beauty. She was a tractive
but they didn't make her out to be this beauty
in alien they played her down.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I thought, I'm not quite sure how to respond to that,
because I think she made a huge impression on a
lot of people, including yours truly here.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
No no, no, she did.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
But I'm saying it wasn't like she was in makeup
or anything. They didn't They didn't make her out to
be I didn't take her out to be as someone
they're trying to, like, you know, play down her beauty.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Oh no.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And in fact I think that, uh, the intention was
that made her sexier because you remember the the notorious
scene where she's slipping her into the space suit in
the underwear.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
No no, no, she was attractive, but I'm saying it
wasn't like it was gratuitous in ways that you usually
see in many sci fi movies.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Oh no, it could have been a lot more gratuitous.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I would have been there for that too. But here's
my question to you, MO, after you saw this and
we're back in the mood for Alien stuff, did you
go down the same kind of rabbit hole I did?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Afterward?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I went down the rabbit hole of looking up all
the Easter eggs and connections and callbacks and direct references.
There's one very early in the movie which is unmistakable,
you can't miss it, and that put me in the
right space. No pun intended. It told us where and
when that story was happening. Right, So it's supposed.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
To take place after the nineteen seventy nine Alien original
and before the eighty six Aliens sequel.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yes, but they also they forward the story of Alien
I don't want to be too specific, and you get
a little more information about the company Whyalan Utani, and
it goes from there, and I like what they did
with that.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Not a real pro corporate message with Whylan Utani there, no.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Guys, But that has been consistent from the very first movie,
from the very first movie.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
They said the crew was expendable. Yeah, exactly. I think
the first movie is a masterpiece. The second movie, the
James Cameron movie, is a whole different ball of waxe, entirely,
completely different kind of movie. Also, I guess in its
own right a masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
And it injected a lot more humor because because there
was no humor in the first movie.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Gladly, I it's hard to play a movie straight like that,
and they did a bang.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Up job of it.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
And I always talk about tonality. I like movies which
are serious. I don't need the nervous laughter. I don't
need the out of place humor, you know, to mask fear.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I don't appreciate that. I would rather people just be
afraid and act accordingly.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And I don't need game over man, game over.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
You know, no disrespect to the late Bill Paxton, but
I didn't need it.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Oh no, and you had played on. I think one
of the Friday Night movie Quizz is a clip of
Veronica Cartwright just in absolute stark fear. What a terrific
actors who conveyed that and was like our avatar in
the movie for what was going on?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Remember the logline for the first movie in space security screen.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, or even Jaws, you know you'd be fraid to
go back in the water. Those movies were straight as
far as fear. I appreciate those movies more than that.
It's almost like they're going for a joking gag every moment,
and movies now they commonly employ that, And I would
say this movie was kind of in that vein. They
weren't searching for jokes all the time. There were some moments,
(24:47):
but they weren't searching for them.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
No. There's one line though, and I'm not gonna spoil
it if people haven't seen the movie yet, but there
is a line that's going to stop you in your
tracks about two thirds of the way into the movie
or so and make you just wonder, what were you thinking?
You goofballs? This just tears me right out of the story. Yeah,
it was unnecessary. That's the only way I can describe it.
(25:11):
And you're gonna know it. It's gonna be a flashing
red Neon sign.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, if you know anything about the alien universe, it's unmistakable.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
But just to add one thing, the third movie, I
guess it was just Alien three, the one on the
Prison Planet. Yep, that one got a really bad reception,
and it wasn't It was easily the third best at
the time. And where you fall on it now kind
of depends on what you're into. But there's been an
assembly cut of that rumored to be floating around for
(25:39):
years and years now, and I would love to see
that because that's more in line with the original screenplay
by William Gibson, the legendary cyberpunk author and David Fincher's
first big studio film.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Too.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I think the movie struggled because in the story it
reached too far to bring Ripley back. It reached too
far to write a story that didn't seem to fit well.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
It was not like how they killed her either.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
No, No, that was a mistake, And it was a
mistake to get rid of Hicks and Newt right at
the beginning of that movie.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Too, right, so you had no payoff from the second
movies like those were really integral characters from Aliens and
you say, oh, by the way, they're dead.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, And I don't know if that's what happens in
the assembly cut, but anybody listening, you got a line
on this. I want to see it, but it's people
kind of ragged on on the tone of it being
too dark, and I'm thinking, that's an alien.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What do you mean it's too dark? Yeah, the color palette,
all of it. It was supposed to be tense from
the beginning to end. If that's not what you're into,
you're in the wrong party. Bub Now Alien Resurrection, that's
when it started trying to get jokes in and things
that just didn't make sense, and it fell apart.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Is that the one with Winona Ryder, Yes, we don't
need her in that.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I like her, but not that. No, And every movie.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Has to have an android on some level which the
story turns on.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
But it just nothing worked in that movie. Not really
that director. I think it's Jean Pierre June. He's done
some really interesting stuff, but this was not a good fit.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, when we come back, we do have a good fit.
It's called Mark Ronner and Tub. Mark Ronner has been
singing the praises of the streaming service to be for
as long as he's been on this show, and to
his credit, Tube has taken off and has become one
of the pre eminent streaming platforms in all of the
(27:37):
television landscape and it's still free. And I think they
owe Mark Ronner some money.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh, they'll need tons. We'll tell you about it when
we come back.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Canfi AM six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Caf I AM six forty. It is Later with mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app. And tub
is one of the fastest growing streaming services around, which
is kind of surprising because we always hear about Netflix
or Disney Plus, Max, Paramount plus, Peacock. We can run
the list you don't often hear about to be Well,
(28:20):
here's the thing. It is absolutely one hund completely free.
Is that why it's popular? Not exactly. Yes, that's one
of his attractive attractions, but not why it's popular. Now,
if you go to Netflix or you go to Disney
Plus or any of those other streaming apps that you
pay for, those streaming platforms usually pay for their content.
(28:47):
They license new material, and the licenses are not in perpetuity,
so you will have new content come and you'll have
some of the older content go.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
But it's inconsistent.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Tube has a very different model, and correct me if
I'm wrong, Mark, But two people will have let's say
TV shows that were only there for maybe one season.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
They will have cult classic movies. They will have classic
movies like Hitchcock movies.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
They have a wide variety of cross genres, not necessarily
first run. But they are also developing some of their
own exclusive content, or they license exclusive content to the
platform that you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
What else is making to be so popular right now?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well, for me, it's they've got an incredibly deep bench
of old cult films that you're just not going to
find anyplace else. And I noticed this when Amazon Prime
first became a thing too. I mean, nobody's going to
charge a ton to license these movies, but they're still
just gems to find. I mean, these are things that
fans would go searching for and like get bootlegs of.
And I don't know that we should talk about the
(29:53):
one that I forwarded to you over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Wise who was a little dicey No.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
But I couldn't believe that it wasn't a notorious cult classic.
And my jaw was just hanging open the whole time
I saw it, And to B is a gold mine
for that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
What about commercials? How many commercials am I looking at?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
They have not exceeded the rate where like I think
free V is really on the bubble on this front
where you're thinking, okay, a little bit too much here,
the cost benefit ratio is getting unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Okay, so I'm gonna look at commercials. But it doesn't
take me out of the movie or show.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
No, it's a reasonable amount. You're getting some for free,
and you it's it's to be endured, but it's not.
It's not onerous yet.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
How much if any live programming?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
How is it just you just choose a movie or
are they showing them at certain times?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
They have a lot of stuff that I haven't availed
myself of yet, So I can't really speak to the
live program programming. I know there is some of that stuff, news, sports,
that kind of thing, but I just I'm in it
for the old movies and the shows and the cult
stuff and the classics.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Well, whatever they're doing it, they're doing it better than
a lot of the paid streaming services, or the paid
streaming services are simply getting too greedy and pushing people
like you and me to to be because they're becoming
more expensive. They're becoming more expensive with more ads, and
they're becoming more expensive with more ads, and I would
(31:19):
say a lesser quality product.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, they are getting greedy. I mean, if you're already
paying for something and they still have it, not only
the ads on the pause screen? Are you hitting me
with this? Yes, Like, I don't want to be advertised
at every single moment I'm awake and my eyes are open.
And what if I just want a still shot of
(31:43):
a movie. What if I want to stop it and
look at something. You can't even do that anymore. I
hate that. That's despicable.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well, I will give Amazon Prime credit for this because
when I do pause it, it gives me the option
to find out information on the actors in that scene.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That's a really convenient thing with it.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I mean, it doesn't do much for people with you know,
short attention spans, because it's one more thing you can
stop and screw around with if you're if you were
you had your phone taken into a bag like Towala's kids.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
But I enjoyed when I was watching Close Encounters of
the Third Kind to watch the movie and be able
to pause as like, who is that actor, Oh, that's
Carl Weathers. I thought that was him, and then you
get background information. It's almost like their IMDb page where
you get to get their bio. But it's almost like
it's almost like the old school DVDs where you're getting
the extra content, an extra scenery, or the just extra
(32:35):
information while you're watching the piece.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, all that stuff's really nerd friendly, and you can
go down a rabbit hole and follow an actor or
a director, and I like the way that they make
that so accessible.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That is really good.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
But also there is something to be said for just
sitting down starting a movie, watching it from start to
finish like a grown up, and then doing that stuff later.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Well, I do because, like, for example, with Close Encounters,
I've seen it a dozen times, so I'm just looking
for tidbits, you know, easter eggs, things that didn't know
about a particular actor who might have been at the
beginning of his or her career or something like that.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
You were just looking up shots of Melinda Dylon from
Close Encounters.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Well that too.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Let me come on, now we all did Yeah, I
know those gene shorts you no, no, I admit that.
I admit that makes you rest in peace. But still, huh,
how you got me thinking about that?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
No? I think two b's headquarters are in La here,
so maybe maybe I need to look into interviewing somebody there.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know people in low places. Why not?
It's late with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Let's check in with George Nora and Coast Coast A
and when we come back, can if I am six
forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. Can if I am
six fortyears later with Moke Kelly, but live everywhere on
(34:02):
the iHeartRadio App. And coming up we'll be Coast to
Coast AM with George Nori. George, how you doing, sir?
Speaker 9 (34:08):
Oh Kelly, I'm great. On National Radio Day, we're going
to be talking to Doc Wallick from Criticalhoalthtnews dot com
and then later on Strange Creatures among Us on Coast
to Coast.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
What was your first radio job?
Speaker 9 (34:23):
First radio job was nineteen seventy one at WCAR at
the time in Detroit as a reporter.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I did not know you worked as a reporter. Now
I learned something new about you today.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
I done it all, my friend.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
All right, all right, well, Happy National Radio Day to
you as.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
Well too, buddy, see a song.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Okay, And before we get out of here, let me
ask the same question, Stephan, what was your first radio job.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
I guess my first, well, first terrestrial radio job was
at I think it's a WPF WPFK in Studio City.
But my first time ever like experiencing any type of
radio was this is when webcasting was a thing and
they started adding the cameras to the shows. And that
was that toadp network, which was funded by Frank of
(35:12):
Heidi and Frank On klos Now, and he had like
a variety of shows and so I worked with the
comedian there and that's where I just was like I
wasn't getting paid obviously, but.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Nobody gets paid nobody.
Speaker 10 (35:27):
But that's when I realized I was like, I really
enjoy this. So I was like, if I can find
a way to make money from this, I think I
want to do this for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Like it's really awesome.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Mark Runner, Well, I had a radio show in college
that I got thrown off of for making pranks. My
first paying pro radio job was at wi i Z
the Wizard in Indiana when I was going to grad
school at Purdue and I'm still tortured by what we
had to say every single break wi I Z the Wizard,
(35:58):
Where the future is now?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
God? It was a terrible at phrase what about you?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
My first it was more like an internship. And I
was at KKBT in Los Angeles ninety two point three
the beat. I was answering phones for a radio personality
who went by the Poetess and she had a Saturday
(36:25):
radio show. This is right after I want to say,
this is maybe ninety seven, because I had just stopped
working at the Grammys and I was in between jobs
and Poetus she called me and still good friends to
this day.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Didn't Twala just have her on a show recently?
Speaker 9 (36:38):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yes, he did, Okay, And I said, Potus, you know,
I'm between jobs. I want to stay busy as you
want to do in this business. And I started answering
phones for her on Saturday mornings for her show Street Science.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And that was when I learned how to.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I was talking to Lindsay who just started working with us,
and Lindsay was working the phones and she was telling
me about some of the difficulties. I said, look, that's
that's something we all had to go through, learning how
to do the phones in radio, And that was my
first thing, doing the phones for Poetis at kkbt's around
nineteen ninety seven. And she also taught me how to
(37:16):
thread a reel to reel machine. And this is this
is radio in the analog days, this is pre digital.
You know, we actually had to cut actual tape. Swalla,
what was your first job? You know what I'm tripping
off of right now. I knew that you started with Poetis, right,
(37:36):
I did not know that you were there at the
exact same time that I was there. Yeah, because I
started at the Beat in ninety five answering phones for Juliog.
I was Juliog's I think I was like his first
second intern, and he had just gotten on the air
shortly after a easye had passed and he was given
his own show. And I had gone from being a
(37:58):
rap artist who where the Beat would play my music
ninety two point three to Beat played my music. I
made good relationships and inroads there, and when I wanted
to get into radio, they said, yeah, we can start
you off as an intern.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I'm like, what's that?
Speaker 7 (38:12):
The like you can come up and basically work for free,
and I'm like, sure, thing because I just wanted to
be in it, because I wanted to keep that kind
of that connection from being at the Beat. But that
was ninety five, and I was there from ninety five
until we shut the doors. So you were coming in
on Saturdays. I was never there on Saturday night. That
was beyond the internship. But man, but what did you
(38:32):
start out doing? Answering phone phones, running around the corner
to get pizza because I didn't drive, so I had
to run around the corner to get pizza, burritos, whatever.
And this is nighttime in Hollywood when it was filthy.
This is before Hollywood. Higland was there. This is when
it was crackheads and gang members and it was te
go get us, go, get us some pizza. Yeah, and
(38:55):
I'm coming back with a box of pizza, breadsticks.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Soda is all in my head. Yeah, it was crazy, crazy, Lindsey.
Now you have been working at CAFI for how long?
Since March? All right? And what did you have to do?
First day training? Videos? They gave you videos like modules.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Oh my goodness, yes, we're laughing because everything we were
coming along just they just threw you in the pool
and said swim. You know, we got calls, get their name,
find out where they're calling from, tell them not to cuss,
tell them to turn down their radio. Yep, that was it.
(39:39):
And then they would yell at us when we had
bad callers or something, as if we could control that.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
But that's kind of like a rite of passage.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
And I tell people all the time, you haven't worked
in radio until you've like worked overnights or spent the
night in your office or had to do like a
twenty four hour shift where you're at the station the
whole day and your time is coming.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I did that in TV.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Okay, yeah, all right, well then you should know it's
coming in radio as well. You have to want to
be in radio here. Well, I'm just saying for everyone.
That's just a general rule. You have to want to
be here because a lot of the early days, regardless
of when you come along, it's not fun, it's not sexy,
(40:23):
it's not lucrative, it's not inspiring. You know, you're doing
a lot of menial tasks. Hopefully you are, because that's
the only way you can learn. You have to do
every job. And I think any intern that I've had itswalla,
knows this.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
This is true.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I will put you on the mic because you can't
be a radio professional and not understand what it means
to be on the air.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
You can't be a future producer and.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Mentor someone or produce someone and not have an understanding
of what that person who's on air is doing. You
have to have done it all so you can do
it all. So you've been here since March and May. Wow,
you almost got four months under your belt, five months
almost and you still like it?
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Huh, I love it?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Okay, all right, we'll ask you next year.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
In radio, that's not a short career. It's like cat ears,
you know.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Right, No, she's been through breaking news more than once.
She's had things fall apart on her. It's like, yeah, yeah.
Radio is when things stop working. That's when you know
that you're a radio professional. When you're problem solving, or
equipment isn't working on a microphone, should break, or whatever,
whatever the unforeseen happens.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
You have a cart snap on you in the middle
of a song.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
She doesn't know what a car is. She doesn't know, No,
tell people what carts.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
Carts were literally the equivalent of eight tracks, and that's
what radio.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
We used to play songs off of.
Speaker 7 (41:51):
And like Moas talking about having a thread a real
we used to have to thread a cart basically record
from a reel to a small plastic cartridge that had
tape in it. And you would record a song onto
this little reel and you would take that into the
studios big on racks of just carts, and that's what
the DJs would play.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
But you left out a very important part. Some people
would not play the cart all the way to the end.
Oh oh, they couldn't rewind them.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
No, you couldn't rewind them.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
So if you took it out halfway through, then the
next person to come along and use it is it
was useless because you it starts right at that point,
and it starts at the point that you take it out.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
So if you have a DJs in a hurry and
wants to get to the next song and they take
that one out and put in us because the spots
were on cards, everything was on cards, and they did that,
then it was say twy, you have to erase this
cart and re record it.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Do you know how we asked you to go ahead
and get some audio, record some audio off a computer.
Well back when I was a wee lad in radio,
The only way we could do that is we recorded
on a reel to reel. We take off the reels,
we take off the actual tape and oh actually we
leave it on the reel and we would scrub it
right and left, go whoa, so we can find words
(43:10):
or breadths to take out and then physically cut and
paste into a different order if need be. Or we
would take calls which were recorded on a reel to
reel like we do, like the name that movie called
Classic Game for the promos, and we'd have to physically
cut them and put them together.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
You have no idea how easy you have it with digital.
I'm thankful for Adobe audition.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Oh no, no, you're not thankful until you have to
thread a reel to reel and put together.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
And this is during the show. You're doing this during
the show.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Yes, yeah, Lindsay Waitley has to tell you about wax cylinders.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I have no idea. Okay, I'll let you Mark go ahead.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
No, no, no, I want to know if you guys
had cart nightmares, just like dead air nightmares that we
all have. Yes, yeah, because I still haven't had my
office space moment where I get a pile of carts
and Dowson with lighter fluid and stomp on it.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
No.
Speaker 7 (44:04):
Working with carts was actual hell and then having to
clean the cart machine with Q tips and alcohol.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
God.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Happy National Radio Day. Can't I am six forty with
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Speaker 3 (00:07):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio Apps nine two of
the DNC.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And there's some publicity one oh one going on. Do
you what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, well, conventional wisdom is, if you want to bury
some bad news, release it when there is a much
bigger event going on.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
If you want to hide something, hide it.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
During the DNC where most of our attention is turned
to politics, things of a political nature, like say, hypothetically,
if you wanted to get divorced for the fourth time,
announce it that you're filing divorce, Like maybe during the
DNC where you have a lot of entertainers performing and
(00:51):
they're not thinking about you, Jay Lou Ben Affleck. But
that's what happened today. We're gonna talk about the DNC.
We gotta talk about j Lo and Ben Affleck. J
Loo filed for divorce today, filed for divorce. Evidently there
was no pre nup, there's no settlement, so there might
(01:11):
be a long protracted battle in court for a number
of houses and trinkets and probably multiple rings.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Let me talk about rings. For a second.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Jennifer Lopez gorgeous woman. Probably wouldn't like her as a person,
but gorgeous woman. She's been married now four times, four marriages,
four failed marriages. She's been engaged but didn't get married
two times. One of those two times was Ben Affleck,
but he gave her a different ring both times. So
(01:45):
if my math is correct, Jennifer Lopez has six rings.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Six rings.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Now I have to ask this of Mark Ronner because
he's never been married, and I think he would best
appreciate this.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Thank God.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Imagine asking someone to spend the rest of their life
with you and my student alone, yes, course, okay. For
someone to say yes, you would think it's a considerable serious.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Question upon her right. One would think, okay, what one
would think, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
But imagine that person saying yes six times. Six times
you're asked the question, will you please spend the rest
of your life with me? And you said yes because
all six times you were asked that we know of
could be more. You thought that the person standing in
front of you was the person you could see yourself
(02:43):
spending the rest of your life with. When I guess
when actuality, it was only the next two three years
your soulmate.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yes, yes, six six rings. Let me put it in
another perspective.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You know how many six rings is comparatively speaking?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Brian only had five rings?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, Magic Johnson only had five rings.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Stephen Curry had four. What's left to believe in? Honestly?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Now Tom Brady had seven rings? Okay, so she's on
his level.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
When Tom Brady walks into the place, he has seven rings.
When j Loo walks in, she has six rings. They
can have a conversation. Is it the same kind of achievement?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Really? Well, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You know they might even get married because they've both
been recently divorced, so you never know.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Both involved scoring.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Hey oh come on, hey, no, if he didn't give
me a rim shot for my rings jokes, I don't
get that. You know, why don't he keep him around here?
He's only here for the rim shot. That's the only
reason he's here. He had one job and he couldn't
do that. If you're gonna be here, be here all
the way.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Foosh.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
But I was actually being kind of serious for her,
as in j Lo to announce that she's fouled for divorce.
Don't think for a moment a person who who call everything,
who is meticulous in how she curates her public life.
Don't tell me that didn't she didn't choose this exact
moment to help bury or at least soften the thud
(04:12):
of announcing her fourth divorce.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well that's what you pay your PR team for.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
She's got people, absolutely, and this is on the heels
of her canceling her music tour. Remember she was supposed
to go on tour and had to cancel that. So
she's canceling her tour and her marriage within the same
thirty days. It's been a rough going for j Lo.
So what you're saying is she's available. She is available,
(04:41):
at least in a marital sense.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I don't know. Emotionally, if she's available, she might need
some therapy.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well who is, Honestly, look at me, I'm a mess.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, but you've been pretty stable in your life, Okay,
I can think comparatively speaking. Look, your last relationship has
lasted how long roughly, I don't know, but it's like
the more than two years.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It's like Fitzgerald said, the hemingway, the rich, the celebrities,
they're different from you and me.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Moo, No, no, they really are because and I would
not want to trade places with her and her life.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I would not want to trade places with any of
her husbands.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Look, Jalo was fine as frog legs, as they say, gorgeous,
but after six failed marriages and engagements, the only common
thread is you.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It's you, boo, it's you, it's you.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
And remember, if they got the divorce or they're getting
divorced after two years, that means they were thinking.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
About divorce a good year ago.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Okay, It's not like you woke up on Sunday and said,
you know what, I'm thinking about divorce in this fool If.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
The Tuesday you file, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
She was thinking about filing a good six seven months
ago at least, So it had to have been absolute
hell prior to you start thinking about filing for divorce
and all the legal and financial considerations you gotta make
before you actually filed, and you have to sit down
with your publicist we were talking about that, and you
have to gain plant out what you're gonna say on
social media, all of that.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It must have been hell from almost the beginning.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I think we're gonna get more of those memes with
Ben Affleck sitting at the table, smoking a cigarette, looking miserable.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Look to be very serious.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
We all know that Ben Affleck has a substance abuse
drinking problem, right, He's been very transparent about that. This
doesn't help, Oh, this does not help at all. I'm
pulling for him, I'm really really pulling for him. But
six rings, dog, six rings, And don't think she's done.
(06:46):
Don't don't think that she Obviously she's someone who feels
the need to be with someone.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Maybe just try going steady for a bit, don't jump
right to engagement.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, no one said you had to say yes, you know,
just because these guys keep asking her, don't know why?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Well I could.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I could posit a guess, but it'll be really really
crass and really really inappropriate to speculate in such a
way on the radio. We wouldn't want that, and someone
would call me a male chauvinist, and someone would call
me a pig. Heaven forbid, I mean more than they
usually do, And I'm unlike, this is not the place
to have that conversation. But I could posit a couple
of reasons why men keep popping the question?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But who wants to be Number seven?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Who's going to be the guy who says, Jennifer Lopez,
will you please marry me? I don't care about all
the other guys. I don't care. I only see you
and me.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Will you please get my name patooed on your flesh
somewhere strategic.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
We'll we come back. We're going to go to the
other side of the spectrum. We're going to tell you
about this new movie which is going to be hitting
theaters on Friday. It's called The Forge and at Star As.
Ben Kennedy will join us on the show next because
later with Mo Kelly k IF. I am six forty
Live Everywhere Art Radio app. You owe me some rim shots, Stefan.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You know that right? He owes you nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Silence, I got you Wibo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
One Kay.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Six We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Character Isaiah
Wright he needs to grow up, he needs to mature.
He's a year out of high school, no plans for
his future, and of course he's struggling to find his
footing as an adult.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We all might remember that time in our lives.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
But through the prayers of his mother as well as
biblical mentorship from a community leader, Isaiah begins to discover
God's purpose for his life. That's the story behind The Forge,
which hits theaters nationwide Friday and stars Askeden Kennedy, who
joins me right now on the show, asks, been good
to meet you this evening.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
How you doing, sir?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Pretty good? Excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Man, you're a Tennessee kid, Jackson State University, educated, guided
by faith. That doesn't seem like the beginning of a
tip of Cole Hollywood movie career. Tell me about your
journey from Memphis to Hollywood.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Yeah, man, So, like you said, I was born and
raised in Memphis, Tennessee. I was there until I was eighteen.
I went to Jackson State University studying mass communications. But
I didn't want to be a news reporter or journalism.
But I know I want to do something with television.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Hey, hey, what you didn't want to be a news
reporter or do?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
You don't work really hard? You guys worked really hard.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
But yeah, so you know, I observed the time and
the commitment it takes, you know, the long news hours.
I was like, man, like, I know I want to
do something with television, but I didn't really understand what
it was. So I took a course my sophomore year.
It was fundament as of acting, and I fell in
love with it. I was like, man, this is the
first class that I feel like, this is what I
want to do. And I wish I had the class
every single day. But almost I took the class. I've
been pursuing it ever since.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Man, you've been very public in your faith and how
it has guided your life and career. Were you ever
concerned as you move up this ladder in entertainment that
your career choice is may not be in a line
with your faith journey.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
It's very interesting because the more I think about it now,
I get excited because truly, on a personal level, I
know what all that I know like there has been
nothing I've been able to accomplish without God opening that door.
So like if I felt like I had to quiet
myself down, that's disrespect to say God, like, You've.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Done all these things for me.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
But I'm gonna be hush now because someone may be
offended versus like people don't wake me up every single day.
You know, God is my provider, He gives me life,
he opens doors. So it's just like, you know, I
share that in a way to inspire people to say, hey, like,
you know, people are enthused about the movies, the television,
but I'm like, man, behind the scenes, you guys don't
see what God has done behind the scenes before I
got to this position. So it's just like I just
(10:40):
want to share that good news and for everybody to
know that, you know, when it trust God, he can
open amazing doors for you.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Let me say this and offer this as a fellow
person of faith and been in this business a long time,
I hope you know that you will have to be
confronted with decisions that you will have to go to
Him and ask for a wise counsel order thy steps.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know that right?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Oh yeah, I've been saying no to projects before, and
it was just like even in that sense of him
giving me the opportunity to say, Okay, this isn't a
project that I believe that I want to associate with
or like to be it's not going to give the
impact that the tops of stories that I want to tell,
and me saying no to those things, I was like, man,
that was kind of like it felt uncomfortable. However, right
after that, the project that you know, the forest came
(11:24):
or like I did a Western earlier this year. A
project came before that I turned down, and then that
bigger project came. So I'm like, every time he's giving
me a test to say no, he's brought something better.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
And that's been the case so far.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Let's get into the Ford since you just mentioned it there.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Your role of Isaiah right is one which may ring
true for a lot of people. As I was mentioning
in the introduction, we've all gone through these what I
call vicissitudes of life, these transition periods were we're not
sure what he has for us or what we should
be doing. How would you describe Isaiah when we meet him?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, so he's a.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Nineteen year old recently graduated high school and he's been
abandoned by father, and you know, he doesn't have that
clear sense of direction for his life.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
He's not responsible.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
However, he does have a praying mom that doesn't relent
in her prayers and her love towards him, but she
also understands that, hey, he has to grow in character
and responsibility. And God answers their prayer for her and
sends him a businessman that not only gives him a
job opportunity, but he also walks with him through discipleship
and teaches him biblical principles that change his life for
the better.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Your grandfather, Joe, this is my dad told me he
was gonna fix it over with me.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
This is the way he left him.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Like everything else, you are my son.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
But I'm giving you one month to find a job,
or you can find one of your little friends that's
gonna let you sleep on their couch for free.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
To help you.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm just trying to talk to the young lady right here.
I need for you to leave my shop right now.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I'm gone, and I'm gonna beat back even that's up
right there.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Your father, would you?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I ain't him? You acting like him?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
Boy, It's hard for a woman to call out the
man and her son.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I just need some prayer support.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I'm just trying to see about a job, right I
ain't hit about nothing with you a salesman for this company.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I'm the president, that's real.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
More.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
When you were going through this role and you're preparing
for this role, what did you use, what came to mind?
What did you draw upon in your own life?
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Truly, when I say the film and the script was
so impactful and powerful to the point where as I'm
reading and I'm like, you know, from the actor brain,
you want to make sure you hit every bead, you
have monologues, you want it to be the best performance ever.
But it was a thing where I was reminded in
the sense of it, the Holy Spirit of was just like, hey,
don't make this about yourself, because the moment that I
idolized like I have to give this perfect performance, then
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I'm watering down the whole purpose for the film. So
I literally had to pray God, hey, help me express
this film, help me express his scene. And having the
Prayer Warriors zone set to be able to pray over me.
That definitely was an experience to be able to not
just act out a scar versus like, Hey, it was
also an experience for me as well.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I'm curious, what do you hear from family members who
have known you before you were an actor to who
you are and where you are now, And what do
you hear from fans who are receiving you just through
your work.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, it's been really cool because you know, again, I
say this humbly and graceful, like I've been able to
express my faith and share my faith to a point
over the years to a point where people who have
actually been following my journey, it's just like God has
literally opening like we've been watching your journey, Like it's
really cool to see where He's taking you now. And
I'm just like, man, like, I'm here for the riote.
I'm super excited about it. But people are really inspired
(14:37):
themselves to be able to say man like, even my
close friends, I'm like, he's like, bro, like I really
want to take my prayer seriously. I really because I'm
seeing what God is doing in your life. And it
goes back to his word of like, hey, if you
exalt me, I will draw people to you.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
But as they come to me, it's like I'm.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Like, hey, it's not about me, you guys, what you feel.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Is all Him. So that's been encouraging to be able
to be a vessel man.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, talk about being a vessel.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
But also I would say this your form of ministry,
this is your way of I don't want to say proselytize.
I'm not putting it in that respect, but you know
it's the outward sign of your inward grace.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Do you ever feel like it's a heavy burden?
Speaker 6 (15:15):
I feel like the sense of Heaveness couldn't be like
weight versus like Okay, I have a responsibility to allow
the Lord to pour himself out into me, so I
won't miss moments of even simple moments of speaking up
to people if it's out in public, not just everything
around film, but saying okay, how can I make sure
that I mirror my life in my relationship and my
marriage and my friendships and just being even a great
(15:36):
a better stranger to people to say, hey, how can
I show up within myself and allow you know, the
love to be shown through me through like Christ through me.
So like honestly, man, it goes beyond film, like you said,
in terms of this ministry, knowing that hey, any platform
that we have, we have a responsibility to love on people,
to serve them, and just to show them how God
sees them if their plays right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
What would you like to be the takeaway for someone
who may see The Forge when it hits theaters this
Friday opens nationwide, who may not be coming from a
faith based foundation, who may not have who may not
have caught all the references that we may have made
in this conversation. We're just going to see a movie,
what would you hope they get out of it?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Truly?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
The fact that you know when we sometimes we don't
understand things like when we surrender, and I know that's
the term people may not understand as well, but like
things in our life that we don't have questions, if
we're hoping for things or we're searching for purpose, that
that's the perfect place to be in because it gives
God all the more room to be able to come
in and make himself known. So knowing that, hey, when
you trust God with things, even if you don't know
how to stresses, say God, this is going on in
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my life, but I trust you with an access you
show up for me in a way that I can
only never deny. Then He will show up, and then
God will give you the like you said in the beginning,
he will order yourselfs to say, Hey, this is why
I'm taking you.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
And thank you for just reverencing me. And I feel
like that's so important.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
The Forge hits theaters nationwide this Friday, asking Kennedy, congratulations
and we wish you well in your future endeavors your
success as our success.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Congratulations with my friend, Thanks so much, Bro.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
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mo Kelly when we come back, we'll talk about the
box office returns for.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
The week and is there a new number one? We'll
find out.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And I have to unfortunately begrudgingly, unwillingly, Hey, Mark Roner,
A compliment kills you, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
It hurts me to the core, I can tell. And
I went.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
To see Alien Romulus on the strength of his review,
and I was.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I was a bit ambivalent.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I wasn't sure about what to think of it because
I had seen enough Alien Universe movies which fell very short.
I was really really, I really was a high anticipation
of Prometheus.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That really let me down.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Oh that let everyone down, believe me.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Then I saw Alien Covenant. It's like, what are we
doing here? It really didn't pick up from where it
left off with Prometheus. It didn't answer the questions that
it asked in Prometheus, and it went in a completely
different direction. They made I think they wasted Michael Fassbender
in many respects.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I'm a good rug though, didn't they Yeah, but that's
about it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, And so I was about done with the Alien franchise.
Then I heard the review of Mark Ronner and he
was so high on it. Not unrealistically, but it sounded
like someone who loved the original Alien thanks to Ridley
Scott and that world in universe which was created around
(18:58):
the character Ripley. And you said that there were some
callbacks and some direct references. You didn't give it away.
But when I saw the movie, I saw all of that,
and I appreciated most of it. Some of it was unnecessary,
some of it was a bit on the nose, but
I thought it was a fine and fitting addition to
the Alien universe. It not only advanced the story put
(19:23):
its way, we found out more, we learned more. And
it said, yes Prometheus mattered. Yes, Alien Covenant mattered, and
we can debate to what degree. But they didn't just
make those movies and then just throw them aside.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
No, whatever, pardon me, whatever you think of the flaws,
and there were several, you didn't walk out of the
movie thinking, oh my God, stop making these put this
out of my misery.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I did not think that at all.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
It came in at number one this week with forty
two million domestically. That's pretty decent. Worldwide, it's one hundred
and thirteen million. It's going to make it money back.
It's another R movie, so I don't expect it to
do too many multipliers. I don't know the budget on this.
I mean, look it up. Eighty million, okay, So he's
(20:11):
already making money at this point. So it is a
hit as far as its production company is concerned. And
I would I wouldn't mind going back to that universe
again the way they told the story. I'll say this,
and it's true for many of the Alien movies now,
most of the characters are disposable. That one thing which
(20:31):
is very different is there are no stars in this movie.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
No.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I mean, we know the star Kaylee Spiney of from
Civil War, which we both enjoyed, and she was in
the Priscilla movie, which I didn't see.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I didn't, But I wouldn't consider her a star at
this point. She's not a household name, correct, Yeah, and
so yeah, I recognize her, but it's not like and
and I guess that kind of is reminiscent of the
original Alien.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I mean, I think who was in it, well, John Hurt.
The biggest actor at the time. Who was in it
was Tom Scarett, and even he wasn't that super well
known at the time.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So and I think, you know, it was going for
a different look.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It wasn't like they were going for the classic superstar
look or uh you know, it's not like Ripley was.
Sigourney Weaver was a classic beauty. She was a tractive
but they didn't make her out to be this beauty
in alien they played her down.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I thought, I'm not quite sure how to respond to that,
because I think she made a huge impression on a
lot of people, including yours truly here.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
No no, no, she did.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
But I'm saying it wasn't like she was in makeup
or anything. They didn't They didn't make her out to
be I didn't take her out to be as someone
they're trying to, like, you know, play down her beauty.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Oh no.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And in fact I think that, uh, the intention was
that made her sexier because you remember the the notorious
scene where she's slipping her into the space suit in
the underwear.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
No no, no, she was attractive, but I'm saying it
wasn't like it was gratuitous in ways that you usually
see in many sci fi movies.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Oh no, it could have been a lot more gratuitous.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I would have been there for that too. But here's
my question to you, MO, after you saw this and
we're back in the mood for Alien stuff, did you
go down the same kind of rabbit hole I did?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Afterward?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I went down the rabbit hole of looking up all
the Easter eggs and connections and callbacks and direct references.
There's one very early in the movie which is unmistakable,
you can't miss it, and that put me in the
right space. No pun intended. It told us where and
when that story was happening. Right, So it's supposed.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
To take place after the nineteen seventy nine Alien original
and before the eighty six Aliens sequel.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yes, but they also they forward the story of Alien
I don't want to be too specific, and you get
a little more information about the company Whyalan Utani, and
it goes from there, and I like what they did
with that.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Not a real pro corporate message with Whylan Utani there, no.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Guys, But that has been consistent from the very first movie,
from the very first movie.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
They said the crew was expendable. Yeah, exactly. I think
the first movie is a masterpiece. The second movie, the
James Cameron movie, is a whole different ball of waxe, entirely,
completely different kind of movie. Also, I guess in its
own right a masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
And it injected a lot more humor because because there
was no humor in the first movie.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Gladly, I it's hard to play a movie straight like that,
and they did a bang.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Up job of it.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
And I always talk about tonality. I like movies which
are serious. I don't need the nervous laughter. I don't
need the out of place humor, you know, to mask fear.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I don't appreciate that. I would rather people just be
afraid and act accordingly.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And I don't need game over man, game over.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
You know, no disrespect to the late Bill Paxton, but
I didn't need it.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Oh no, and you had played on. I think one
of the Friday Night movie Quizz is a clip of
Veronica Cartwright just in absolute stark fear. What a terrific
actors who conveyed that and was like our avatar in
the movie for what was going on?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Remember the logline for the first movie in space security screen.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, or even Jaws, you know you'd be fraid to
go back in the water. Those movies were straight as
far as fear. I appreciate those movies more than that.
It's almost like they're going for a joking gag every moment,
and movies now they commonly employ that, And I would
say this movie was kind of in that vein. They
weren't searching for jokes all the time. There were some moments,
(24:47):
but they weren't searching for them.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
No. There's one line though, and I'm not gonna spoil
it if people haven't seen the movie yet, but there
is a line that's going to stop you in your
tracks about two thirds of the way into the movie
or so and make you just wonder, what were you thinking?
You goofballs? This just tears me right out of the story. Yeah,
it was unnecessary. That's the only way I can describe it.
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And you're gonna know it. It's gonna be a flashing
red Neon sign.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, if you know anything about the alien universe, it's unmistakable.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
But just to add one thing, the third movie, I
guess it was just Alien three, the one on the
Prison Planet. Yep, that one got a really bad reception,
and it wasn't It was easily the third best at
the time. And where you fall on it now kind
of depends on what you're into. But there's been an
assembly cut of that rumored to be floating around for
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years and years now, and I would love to see
that because that's more in line with the original screenplay
by William Gibson, the legendary cyberpunk author and David Fincher's
first big studio film.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Too.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I think the movie struggled because in the story it
reached too far to bring Ripley back. It reached too
far to write a story that didn't seem to fit well.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
It was not like how they killed her either.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
No, No, that was a mistake, And it was a
mistake to get rid of Hicks and Newt right at
the beginning of that movie.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Too, right, so you had no payoff from the second
movies like those were really integral characters from Aliens and
you say, oh, by the way, they're dead.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, And I don't know if that's what happens in
the assembly cut, but anybody listening, you got a line
on this. I want to see it, but it's people
kind of ragged on on the tone of it being
too dark, and I'm thinking, that's an alien.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What do you mean it's too dark? Yeah, the color palette,
all of it. It was supposed to be tense from
the beginning to end. If that's not what you're into,
you're in the wrong party. Bub Now Alien Resurrection, that's
when it started trying to get jokes in and things
that just didn't make sense, and it fell apart.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Is that the one with Winona Ryder, Yes, we don't
need her in that.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I like her, but not that. No, And every movie.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Has to have an android on some level which the
story turns on.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
But it just nothing worked in that movie. Not really
that director. I think it's Jean Pierre June. He's done
some really interesting stuff, but this was not a good fit.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, when we come back, we do have a good fit.
It's called Mark Ronner and Tub. Mark Ronner has been
singing the praises of the streaming service to be for
as long as he's been on this show, and to
his credit, Tube has taken off and has become one
of the pre eminent streaming platforms in all of the
(27:37):
television landscape and it's still free. And I think they
owe Mark Ronner some money.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh, they'll need tons. We'll tell you about it when
we come back.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Canfi AM six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Caf I AM six forty. It is Later with mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app. And tub
is one of the fastest growing streaming services around, which
is kind of surprising because we always hear about Netflix
or Disney Plus, Max, Paramount plus, Peacock. We can run
the list you don't often hear about to be Well,
(28:20):
here's the thing. It is absolutely one hund completely free.
Is that why it's popular? Not exactly. Yes, that's one
of his attractive attractions, but not why it's popular. Now,
if you go to Netflix or you go to Disney
Plus or any of those other streaming apps that you
pay for, those streaming platforms usually pay for their content.
(28:47):
They license new material, and the licenses are not in perpetuity,
so you will have new content come and you'll have
some of the older content go.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
But it's inconsistent.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Tube has a very different model, and correct me if
I'm wrong, Mark, But two people will have let's say
TV shows that were only there for maybe one season.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
They will have cult classic movies. They will have classic
movies like Hitchcock movies.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
They have a wide variety of cross genres, not necessarily
first run. But they are also developing some of their
own exclusive content, or they license exclusive content to the
platform that you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
What else is making to be so popular right now?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well, for me, it's they've got an incredibly deep bench
of old cult films that you're just not going to
find anyplace else. And I noticed this when Amazon Prime
first became a thing too. I mean, nobody's going to
charge a ton to license these movies, but they're still
just gems to find. I mean, these are things that
fans would go searching for and like get bootlegs of.
And I don't know that we should talk about the
(29:53):
one that I forwarded to you over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Wise who was a little dicey No.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
But I couldn't believe that it wasn't a notorious cult classic.
And my jaw was just hanging open the whole time
I saw it, And to B is a gold mine
for that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
What about commercials? How many commercials am I looking at?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
They have not exceeded the rate where like I think
free V is really on the bubble on this front
where you're thinking, okay, a little bit too much here,
the cost benefit ratio is getting unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Okay, so I'm gonna look at commercials. But it doesn't
take me out of the movie or show.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
No, it's a reasonable amount. You're getting some for free,
and you it's it's to be endured, but it's not.
It's not onerous yet.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
How much if any live programming?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
How is it just you just choose a movie or
are they showing them at certain times?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
They have a lot of stuff that I haven't availed
myself of yet, So I can't really speak to the
live program programming. I know there is some of that stuff, news, sports,
that kind of thing, but I just I'm in it
for the old movies and the shows and the cult
stuff and the classics.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Well, whatever they're doing it, they're doing it better than
a lot of the paid streaming services, or the paid
streaming services are simply getting too greedy and pushing people
like you and me to to be because they're becoming
more expensive. They're becoming more expensive with more ads, and
they're becoming more expensive with more ads, and I would
(31:19):
say a lesser quality product.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, they are getting greedy. I mean, if you're already
paying for something and they still have it, not only
the ads on the pause screen? Are you hitting me
with this? Yes, Like, I don't want to be advertised
at every single moment I'm awake and my eyes are open.
And what if I just want a still shot of
(31:43):
a movie. What if I want to stop it and
look at something. You can't even do that anymore. I
hate that. That's despicable.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well, I will give Amazon Prime credit for this because
when I do pause it, it gives me the option
to find out information on the actors in that scene.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That's a really convenient thing with it.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I mean, it doesn't do much for people with you know,
short attention spans, because it's one more thing you can
stop and screw around with if you're if you were
you had your phone taken into a bag like Towala's kids.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
But I enjoyed when I was watching Close Encounters of
the Third Kind to watch the movie and be able
to pause as like, who is that actor, Oh, that's
Carl Weathers. I thought that was him, and then you
get background information. It's almost like their IMDb page where
you get to get their bio. But it's almost like
it's almost like the old school DVDs where you're getting
the extra content, an extra scenery, or the just extra
(32:35):
information while you're watching the piece.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, all that stuff's really nerd friendly, and you can
go down a rabbit hole and follow an actor or
a director, and I like the way that they make
that so accessible.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That is really good.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
But also there is something to be said for just
sitting down starting a movie, watching it from start to
finish like a grown up, and then doing that stuff later.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Well, I do because, like, for example, with Close Encounters,
I've seen it a dozen times, so I'm just looking
for tidbits, you know, easter eggs, things that didn't know
about a particular actor who might have been at the
beginning of his or her career or something like that.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
You were just looking up shots of Melinda Dylon from
Close Encounters.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Well that too.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Let me come on, now we all did Yeah, I
know those gene shorts you no, no, I admit that.
I admit that makes you rest in peace. But still, huh,
how you got me thinking about that?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
No? I think two b's headquarters are in La here,
so maybe maybe I need to look into interviewing somebody there.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know people in low places. Why not?
It's late with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Let's check in with George Nora and Coast Coast A
and when we come back, can if I am six
forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. Can if I am
six fortyears later with Moke Kelly, but live everywhere on
(34:02):
the iHeartRadio App. And coming up we'll be Coast to
Coast AM with George Nori. George, how you doing, sir?
Speaker 9 (34:08):
Oh Kelly, I'm great. On National Radio Day, we're going
to be talking to Doc Wallick from Criticalhoalthtnews dot com
and then later on Strange Creatures among Us on Coast
to Coast.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
What was your first radio job?
Speaker 9 (34:23):
First radio job was nineteen seventy one at WCAR at
the time in Detroit as a reporter.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I did not know you worked as a reporter. Now
I learned something new about you today.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
I done it all, my friend.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
All right, all right, well, Happy National Radio Day to
you as.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
Well too, buddy, see a song.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Okay, And before we get out of here, let me
ask the same question, Stephan, what was your first radio job.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
I guess my first, well, first terrestrial radio job was
at I think it's a WPF WPFK in Studio City.
But my first time ever like experiencing any type of
radio was this is when webcasting was a thing and
they started adding the cameras to the shows. And that
was that toadp network, which was funded by Frank of
(35:12):
Heidi and Frank On klos Now, and he had like
a variety of shows and so I worked with the
comedian there and that's where I just was like I
wasn't getting paid obviously, but.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Nobody gets paid nobody.
Speaker 10 (35:27):
But that's when I realized I was like, I really
enjoy this. So I was like, if I can find
a way to make money from this, I think I
want to do this for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Like it's really awesome.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Mark Runner, Well, I had a radio show in college
that I got thrown off of for making pranks. My
first paying pro radio job was at wi i Z
the Wizard in Indiana when I was going to grad
school at Purdue and I'm still tortured by what we
had to say every single break wi I Z the Wizard,
(35:58):
Where the future is now?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
God? It was a terrible at phrase what about you?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
My first it was more like an internship. And I
was at KKBT in Los Angeles ninety two point three
the beat. I was answering phones for a radio personality
who went by the Poetess and she had a Saturday
(36:25):
radio show. This is right after I want to say,
this is maybe ninety seven, because I had just stopped
working at the Grammys and I was in between jobs
and Poetus she called me and still good friends to
this day.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Didn't Twala just have her on a show recently?
Speaker 9 (36:38):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yes, he did, Okay, And I said, Potus, you know,
I'm between jobs. I want to stay busy as you
want to do in this business. And I started answering
phones for her on Saturday mornings for her show Street Science.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And that was when I learned how to.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I was talking to Lindsay who just started working with us,
and Lindsay was working the phones and she was telling
me about some of the difficulties. I said, look, that's
that's something we all had to go through, learning how
to do the phones in radio, And that was my
first thing, doing the phones for Poetis at kkbt's around
nineteen ninety seven. And she also taught me how to
(37:16):
thread a reel to reel machine. And this is this
is radio in the analog days, this is pre digital.
You know, we actually had to cut actual tape. Swalla,
what was your first job? You know what I'm tripping
off of right now. I knew that you started with Poetis, right,
(37:36):
I did not know that you were there at the
exact same time that I was there. Yeah, because I
started at the Beat in ninety five answering phones for Juliog.
I was Juliog's I think I was like his first
second intern, and he had just gotten on the air
shortly after a easye had passed and he was given
his own show. And I had gone from being a
(37:58):
rap artist who where the Beat would play my music
ninety two point three to Beat played my music. I
made good relationships and inroads there, and when I wanted
to get into radio, they said, yeah, we can start
you off as an intern.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I'm like, what's that?
Speaker 7 (38:12):
The like you can come up and basically work for free,
and I'm like, sure, thing because I just wanted to
be in it, because I wanted to keep that kind
of that connection from being at the Beat. But that
was ninety five, and I was there from ninety five
until we shut the doors. So you were coming in
on Saturdays. I was never there on Saturday night. That
was beyond the internship. But man, but what did you
(38:32):
start out doing? Answering phone phones, running around the corner
to get pizza because I didn't drive, so I had
to run around the corner to get pizza, burritos, whatever.
And this is nighttime in Hollywood when it was filthy.
This is before Hollywood. Higland was there. This is when
it was crackheads and gang members and it was te
go get us, go, get us some pizza. Yeah, and
(38:55):
I'm coming back with a box of pizza, breadsticks.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Soda is all in my head. Yeah, it was crazy, crazy, Lindsey.
Now you have been working at CAFI for how long?
Since March? All right? And what did you have to do?
First day training? Videos? They gave you videos like modules.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Oh my goodness, yes, we're laughing because everything we were
coming along just they just threw you in the pool
and said swim. You know, we got calls, get their name,
find out where they're calling from, tell them not to cuss,
tell them to turn down their radio. Yep, that was it.
(39:39):
And then they would yell at us when we had
bad callers or something, as if we could control that.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
But that's kind of like a rite of passage.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
And I tell people all the time, you haven't worked
in radio until you've like worked overnights or spent the
night in your office or had to do like a
twenty four hour shift where you're at the station the
whole day and your time is coming.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I did that in TV.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Okay, yeah, all right, well then you should know it's
coming in radio as well. You have to want to
be in radio here. Well, I'm just saying for everyone.
That's just a general rule. You have to want to
be here because a lot of the early days, regardless
of when you come along, it's not fun, it's not sexy,
(40:23):
it's not lucrative, it's not inspiring. You know, you're doing
a lot of menial tasks. Hopefully you are, because that's
the only way you can learn. You have to do
every job. And I think any intern that I've had itswalla,
knows this.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
This is true.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I will put you on the mic because you can't
be a radio professional and not understand what it means
to be on the air.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
You can't be a future producer and.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Mentor someone or produce someone and not have an understanding
of what that person who's on air is doing. You
have to have done it all so you can do
it all. So you've been here since March and May. Wow,
you almost got four months under your belt, five months
almost and you still like it?
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Huh, I love it?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Okay, all right, we'll ask you next year.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
In radio, that's not a short career. It's like cat ears,
you know.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Right, No, she's been through breaking news more than once.
She's had things fall apart on her. It's like, yeah, yeah.
Radio is when things stop working. That's when you know
that you're a radio professional. When you're problem solving, or
equipment isn't working on a microphone, should break, or whatever,
whatever the unforeseen happens.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
You have a cart snap on you in the middle
of a song.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
She doesn't know what a car is. She doesn't know, No,
tell people what carts.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
Carts were literally the equivalent of eight tracks, and that's
what radio.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
We used to play songs off of.
Speaker 7 (41:51):
And like Moas talking about having a thread a real
we used to have to thread a cart basically record
from a reel to a small plastic cartridge that had
tape in it. And you would record a song onto
this little reel and you would take that into the
studios big on racks of just carts, and that's what
the DJs would play.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
But you left out a very important part. Some people
would not play the cart all the way to the end.
Oh oh, they couldn't rewind them.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
No, you couldn't rewind them.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
So if you took it out halfway through, then the
next person to come along and use it is it
was useless because you it starts right at that point,
and it starts at the point that you take it out.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
So if you have a DJs in a hurry and
wants to get to the next song and they take
that one out and put in us because the spots
were on cards, everything was on cards, and they did that,
then it was say twy, you have to erase this
cart and re record it.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Do you know how we asked you to go ahead
and get some audio, record some audio off a computer.
Well back when I was a wee lad in radio,
The only way we could do that is we recorded
on a reel to reel. We take off the reels,
we take off the actual tape and oh actually we
leave it on the reel and we would scrub it
right and left, go whoa, so we can find words
(43:10):
or breadths to take out and then physically cut and
paste into a different order if need be. Or we
would take calls which were recorded on a reel to
reel like we do, like the name that movie called
Classic Game for the promos, and we'd have to physically
cut them and put them together.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
You have no idea how easy you have it with digital.
I'm thankful for Adobe audition.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Oh no, no, you're not thankful until you have to
thread a reel to reel and put together.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
And this is during the show. You're doing this during
the show.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Yes, yeah, Lindsay Waitley has to tell you about wax cylinders.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I have no idea. Okay, I'll let you Mark go ahead.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
No, no, no, I want to know if you guys
had cart nightmares, just like dead air nightmares that we
all have. Yes, yeah, because I still haven't had my
office space moment where I get a pile of carts
and Dowson with lighter fluid and stomp on it.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
No.
Speaker 7 (44:04):
Working with carts was actual hell and then having to
clean the cart machine with Q tips and alcohol.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
God.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
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