August 30, 2024 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the growing controversy, and calls for OC Supervisor Andrew Do to resign with KFI Reporter Corbin Carson…PLUS – Thoughts on the new California appeals court ruling that has cleared the way for the sale of Michael Jackson’s music catalog - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's not yet a holiday, but a holiday is almost
upon us. Labor Day. President Grover Cleveland signed a law
back on June twenty eighth, eighteen ninety four, making the
first Monday in September a national holiday, and it was
called Labor Day. And as customary, you may wonder, is
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this going to be open? Is that going to be open?
Is the county office is going to be closed? I
have stuff I need to do on Monday. I get it.
I get it. Well, we also have the information, since
it is a federal holiday. Banks closed, and just in
case you're worried about your stock portfolio, it'll be just fine.
New York Stock Exchange closed, the courts closed, Libraries, LA
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Public Library locations are closed. And that's just about it. Well,
the mail does not deliver regular mail, and post offices
are closed. Metro buses and subway services, we're just talking
about Metro. Last hour, if you tune in late, I
finished up the Tim Conway Junior Show and we had
a long conversation with kfi's own Michael Monks about Metro
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and how they are displeased with a lot of my
rants and editorializing, and basically I don't care because they're
not willing to come on the show and then make
the case for Metro. But I say that to say,
Metro buses and subway services in LA will run on
a Saturday, Sunday and holiday schedule over the course of
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the weekend. Metro Link trains will run on the weekend schedule,
and your trash, well, it will be it'll vary by location.
Pickup schedule for LA Sanitation and Environment customers delayed by
one day. What that is is my trash is picked
up on Thursday, like today, they picked up the trash
today week Since we have the holiday on Monday, it'll
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be pushed to Friday. So just take the day in
which you usually have your trash picked up and know
that it will probably be the next work day after that.
But if you're in Burbank, pickup is on a regular schedule.
I guess with the exception of Monday. I'm not exactly sure.
I probably need to ask Tim Conway Junior. He would
probably know better than most people. Today is also my
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last show, No, not last show, but last show before
I know people are getting ready to get hit. They
got rid of him. No no, no no, remember you fondly.
This is my last show before I and also to
wallet get on a cruise and like twelve other people
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that we all know, tomorrow we're gonna get on a cruise,
three day cruise, Ensenada, Mexicual. But while I'm gone, Mark Ronner,
the Mark William Ronner.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Okay, you're hauling out the middle name. It's serious. Look please,
Morris William Well.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Mark is going to be leading the way not only
tomorrow but also on Monday. Tiffany Hobbs from the crew,
the later crew will also be here. Stephan is going
to be on the Ones and twoes. He's going to
be the DJ with the mostest. He's going to be
the hostess, as they say, hostess with the mostest. But
it's going to be a wonderful two days. You won't
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miss me. I'm quite sure Mark is going to do
a wonderful job. If I have the ability to listen in,
I'll listen in. You should.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I have a wonderful surprise guest lined up for tomorrow night. Good,
absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Good. Did you follow my advice? Which which advice is
that as far as how to pitch it. Oh no,
I groveled. Was it the one that you were telling
me about? No?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
No, no, total surprise. Really you're going to fill your pants? Oh,
don't even tell me.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
No, no, no, that's good. I would rather just experience it,
you know, it's like oh wow, and be or be
completely underwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's like, oh wow, it's gonna be a lot of fun,
I promise you. All right, all right, Well, have you
picked all your clips?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Because I'm under the impression that you're going to play
name that movie called classic.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Oh we got to do that. It's Friday. Yeah, I
got the clips out of the way fast. We're gonna
do well, it'll be a surprise as well, but it'll
be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
All right? Just yes or no? Is it a theme?
Do you have a theme? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
All right? Did you have a problem trying to pick
just ten? You could say that? Yeah? I think you're
I think you're kind of getting warmer now, I honestly
don't know. So I'm just judging what I know about
you as a person, that's all. And you have a
little OCD in you as well. Yeah, I can see
you obsessed over this we have that in common. Well,
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that's going to be tomorrow, and if things go well,
or even if they don't go well, I'll be sending
in pictures and video of Twala will what will be
his maiden voyage, if you will, his first time on
a cruise ship ocean liner. See how well he adapts
to it, and it should be high comedy.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, I've been thinking about this because I have a
similar phobia of deep water, and Twala, like a rational adult,
understands that human beings are land mammals not meant for
deep water, and everything else that's in the water can
move faster than we can. But I'm not sure how
deepest phobia goes, so like, I don't know how much
is fair to to mock him about it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, it's not like we're going to do a short
excursion and Twalla's going to go snorkeling. You don't even
remember this show, staff expected you never watched an episode
of your life. Can't you even name the bartender? That's
what I thought. Oh, that's an easy one.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't, but I know his catchphrases. Can I fix
anybody a drink? Okay? All right? Can you name the
captain of the ship, isn't it. Uh? Yes, all right?
Who is the doctor? I don't know that one. How
about the purser, Nope, that's I think the extent of
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my The tour director no her name. Well, you need
to to get some more love boat in your life. Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The tour director hung up the phone on me once
when I called her about an interview.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Just she had a tough life after the show. She
you know, she went through some stuff and she may
not have known whether you were setting her up or
whether it was going to be a legitimate, you know, conversation.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I didn't get the idea that she wanted to find
out one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
But we did have Ted Lange on the show. That's
how you pronounced that. Yes it is Lange. I never
knew that. Yes, I just saw his name. I thought
it was laying too. Yes Lange.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He's a super nerd in what way, the only way
and the only way. He knows his comic book lore.
Oh well, that's cool, So he must appreciate the original
star Trek.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I like you tool. Okay, Hey, it just got personal, like,
what do we do it? I thought it was all
love right now?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well, it is, But I love you enough to spread
the gospel of Kirk.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You keep that filth to yourself. Okay. Did I tell
you about the time I interviewed William Shatner twice? Once
or twice? Okay, I just wanted to make sure I
threw that out there. I believe you've mentioned that in Passing.
Did I tell you how I interviewed Michelle Nichols before Passing?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't remember. I'm sure you took long showers with
the whole cast, and you want to rub my nose
in it. Yes, I'm jealous. Okay, it's a bath. It
wasn't a shower? Even better? Yeah, Kuzie whatever. Yeah, I'm
jealous of all of it. It's later with mo Kelly.
Did I tell you how I interviewed the son of
Leonard Nie Boy?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You did not know?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I did?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And didn't he wind up getting married to somebody from
one of the spin off series He may have, I
don't know that trivia effect. Well, I'm jealous of all
of it. And he told us all the.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Hind of scenes about whether there was a real rift
between William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy. Well, you're just gonna
leave me hanging on that while I do the news.
You're gonna have to just get the podcast. Like I
sent you the Michael Usland podcast. It it still exists.
He came in studio dropping nuggets. Well, thanks for that.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I'll go research it so that I can find the
answer that you could tell me in approximateity quality pees.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It's lated with mo Kelly CAFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And just in case you didn't know, we've been following
the story in Orange County. Public officials are continuing their
calls for Orange County Supervisor Andrew Doe to step down
in the wake of reports of a charity employing his
daughter which allegedly misused millions of dollars in tax funds,
allowing his daughter and others to purchase million dollar homes,
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and there are possible federal charges looming Andrew Doe Supervisor Doe,
his house and others were rated. Recently joining us right
now is kfi's own Corbyn Carson with the latest Corbyn
First Good Evening. How are you sir?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Doing pretty good?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, this story is really reaching into a lot of
areas of Orange County politics. The first we really heard
about these allegations of impropriety came up when Supervisor Andrew
Doe had voted or directed millions of those COVID relief
dollars to the nonprofit Via American Society, and Doe did
not disclose that.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
His daughter, Rhiannon Doe, worked for the nonprofit.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
And an investigation shows that not disclosing that relationship is
not illegal, and a local state politician has recently proposed
to build to require such relationships to be disclosed.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Then, earlier this month, Orange County sued.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
The Viet American Society and its president, Peter Fann. They
alleged misappropriation of millions of dollars of pandemic relief earmarked
for delivery of meals to needy families that also included
a organization called Hand to Hand Relief that was a subcontractor.
They were also sued the laws who claims the nonprofit
and Rhann and Doe.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
They used the words brazenly plundered.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
The funding, including the allegation that Doe used the money
to buy a house, as you mentioned, And then those
raids happened this week. That was out the home of
Rihann and Doe and the home of Supervisor Andrew Doau
and his wife. That's Rihanna's mother and she's the OC
assistant Presiding Judge Cherry fam So again, this reaches deep
into Orange County politics as well as into the courts.
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Since then, several supervisors have come out calling for Doe
to resign. The board plans to strip them of all
committee assignments at their upcoming board meeting on September tenth.
It is important to note again that Supervisor Doe has
not been named as a defendant in any of those cases.
But this is really getting a lot larger as we
move along.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Now.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
A couple of things I'm working on points that the
FEDS have frozen all of Via America Society's accounts.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
A lawyer for Vieta America Society, Mark.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Rosen, says this is causing needy families to go hungry,
all for what he calls political retaliation.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
My clients have provided services since twenty twenty. They submitted
monthly in voices which were paid. They submitted evidence of
the services. People from the county were free to come
and look. They're free to come now and look and
all of this came up in twenty twenty three when
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people in the county or Intido's political opponents decided they
wanted to do a hatchet job on him. And that's
what's motivating this.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Yeah, and he says the county's asking for receipts from
meals that were delivered four years ago during a global pandemic.
Here's him explaining why that's not even reasonable.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
They had to provide these services on an emergency basis.
Now three or four years later, starting in twenty two
twenty three, the counts is complaining about the record keeping
going back to twenty twenty and people forget at the time,
we had people delivering meals, we had people cooking the meals,
but they couldn't really interact with the recipients, the poor
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and disabled because they weren't supposed to have contact because
of the pandemic. And so they're trying to create ideal
circumstances in twenty twenty four for what was in emergency
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, So a lot going on here.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Look, first thing, as far as Supervisor Doe goes, they're
playing word solid politics here where it may not have
been illegal not to disclose. But when it comes to
ethical behavior, there are two responsibilities. You have to avoid
engaging in actual impropriety and you have to avoid engaging
in the appearance of impropriety. Both matter. Now, whether it's
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illegal or not, the federal and investigation will decide. But
a person of innocent mind acts accordingly. If you know
that there's million of dollars or in this case, more
than ten millions of dollars going to change hands, and
it's going to change hands to an organization in which
your daughter is one of the co founders or the
co president of a person of venice of mind will say, hey,
maybe I need to divulge that information. Paed deemic or not.
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I know you can't comment on that, but it smells
real bad from where I'm sitting, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
And that's something some of the other supervisors did comment
on this week. Supervisor Doe did not go to the
board meeting this week, but he this topic was brought
up by at least two of the supervisors, and a supervisor,
Vincente Sarmiento, talked about how some of those dollars that
you're mentioned, how he's upset that those dollars were really
needed that how so many people were dying in his
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city when he was mayor in Santa Ana and they
could have used this money that was allegedly diverted somewhere else.
Here's him discussing how Andrew Doe should not continue on
because this whole thing is a distraction.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
I would ask him and would demand that he stepped down.
I believe that his six hundred and fifty plus thousand
residents deserve somebody who's going to be able to deliver services,
be responsive to his constituents. And again, I don't do
this lightly because I am a big supporter and proponent
of due process rights that everybody has, and I have
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complete confidence in the courts when they do when they
do things properly, that people are going to be held responsible.
But I do think that at this point it is
very difficult for a supervisor any board office to carry
out its public functions given what we're dealing with right now.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Meanwhile, Supervisor Katrina Police says stepping down is the right
thing to do.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
I presume Supervisor Dooe is watching this meeting, so I
will speak directly to him. Andrew, please resigned. Resignation is
not an admission of guilt and you are entitled to
do process. However, your position on the board is untenable
and will only cause harm to the good work of
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the county. If you truly care about this county, as
you have claimed many times in the past, then you
will step down so we can begin to heal the
deep wounds that you have caused all of us.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Supervisors Wagner and Chaffey were much more cautious with their words.
This is right along party lines. That should be something
we say up front. Foley and Sarmiento being Democrats, while
CHV Wagner and Supervisor Doe are Republicans. Wagner has said
people should let law enforcement do their job and not
rush to judgment. But he's also the board chair, so
again did call for the vote at the meeting. At
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the next meeting to strip Dough of all committee assignments.
So it remains to be seen what will happen in
this case next.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It is very messy, and there is a long and
strong paper trail that money went from A to B
and people made decisions and signed off on it. I
think it will be pretty clear when all of a
sudden done. Cortin Carson, thank you for staying on this story.
Thank you for following up and will continue to watch it.
Appreciate it. Sorry, Thanks, It's the Later with Moe Kelly.
When we come back, we want to tell you about
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another legal issue. A ruling has cleared the way for
the sale, you could say, another sale of Michael Jackson's
music catalog. Will tell you about that. NEXTFI Am six
forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It's hard to remind myself that Michael Jackson died some
fifteen years ago. Fifteen years and in the world of music,
that's more than a lifetime. That's like two generations of
music lovers coming and going. You have fewer and fewer
people who actively remember Michael Jackson as a superstar in
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his heyday. And if you talk to a true Michael
Jackson fan, you'll find any number of responses. As far
as his best album, I think his best album album
is Off the Wall. That bumper Rock with You is
from the Off the Wall album, and I think top
to bottom it's better than Thriller, definitely better than Bad.
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I mentioned his music because his music catalog is probably unparalleled.
I'm just talking about the Michael Jackson portion, not the Jackson's,
not the Beatles portion that he bought a long time ago,
just the Michael Jackson solo artist portion of his catalog.
And Michael Jackson is, if you know anything about his history,
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was dealing with severe financial issues. He was trying to
save Neverland Ranch. He was trying to go back out
on tour one last time to generate money and sales
to deal with some of those issues. But then, as
the story goes, he did die in untimely death. And
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what is common, I guess amongst many popular artists when
they die, their catalog balloons with respect to value. Michael
Jackson's was no different. His music was purchased all over
the world. He had new hits, He had the song
that he did the day excuse Me, the duet with
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with Justin Timberlake. Love never felt so good. And that's
just not unusual when you have a deceased artist, their
music is more in demand, such that the value of
his catalog ballooned, and there began a fight as far
as either liquidating the catalog to trying to address some
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of the debts that Michael Jackson had left and also
make some money, but the executors of his estate had
final say. His mother, Catherine Jackson, wanted to make sure
that the Michael Jackson music catalog stayed in the family,
or at least stayed under the auspices of the Michael
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Jackson estate. The estate was trying to sell the catalog
back to Sony Music Group for some six hundred million dollars.
His mother tried to block the deal, but now there's
a new court ruling which has paid the way for
this deal to go through and sell the music back
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to Sony for about six hundred million dollars. And if
you've been paying attention, just about every artist that you've
ever known or loved, they've sold their catalog at some point.
They're cashing out. They know that they can get from
three hundred million to a billion dollars in a lump sum,
as opposed to just holding on to the rights and
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the royalties forever. They'd rather just cash out now. And
that's what the Michael Jackson estate is trying to do
for some six hundred million, which is nothing to sneeze at.
And I can be of two minds can. I can
understand why Catherine Jackson is dismayed. I know there's a
financial interest. I'm not saying that she's wrong for having
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the fine financial interest, but I understand at least if
you're a Michael Jackson purist, you would think selling it
back to the record label is kind of sad, if
only because that means the record label gets to make
money in perpetuity off of Michael Jackson, and the Michael
Jackson estate will have no say. What does that mean?
They can do Michael Jackson holograms and have it go
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out on tour. They can license his music for commercials,
even though we may think that that would be heresy
depending on the product. They can do anything they want
with the music. They can allow someone to remake it,
they can sample it, allow other artists to sample it.
There's no limitation. The record company can do ring tones
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with the music. They can do anything they want, and
you won't be able to protect the legacy of Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I think the sell price for that six hundred million
years is a still that is actual heresy. I mean,
this man's catalog will live on forever.
Speaker 9 (21:03):
He will always be Michael Jackson. We are not talking
about like the likes of a Justin Bieber. Now, no
disrespect to Justin Bieber, but who sold his for what's
some close to one hundred and fifty maybe two hundred million,
and that's just his previous material, that's not anything that's
about to be coming out soon. I just think that
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that arguably one of the greatest recording artists in any lifetime.
Them valuing the catalog at six hundred million, that is
a slap in the face for what everything you just
laid out, You just laid out at least two billion
dollars net worth that that catalog can generate.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Let me make it real simple for someone who may
not know how the business works. When you have an
artist and they make a record, depending on how many
points they have on an album, they may work. They
may make anywhere from you know, six cents on every
album to maybe a couple of dollars. Most of that
money is paid to the record company because their artists
are given in advance for their recording and then they
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go out on tour to recoup that advance, and when
money is doled out from album sales record sales, the
artist gets paid last. Usually the smallest portion of the pie,
the record company gets the most. That's why people are
sometimes angry when the record company buys the catalog back
because they were already making of just say, two thirds
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of the money to begin with, and now they can
for six hundred million, they can put out albums, new
albums in perpetuity. That means anything in his vault which
was unreleased, you can do remixes, you can do an
a capella, stripped down version of and they can easily
make to your point, to all a couple billion dollars
just release some unreleased material or different remixed material of
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Michael Jackson albums in the way that Taylor Swift has
remixed and redone resung her own albums. They could easily
make that money back in a few years. So the
six hundred million dollar price tag, it's not nothing, but
it's pennies on what Sony Music is going to make.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
I mean, if you can tell me that Bob Dylan's
catalog was sold it five hundred million is comparable to
Michael Jackson's catalog because this goes back because Michael Jackson
got back the rights to all of his stuff. And
if I'm not mistaken, a large chunk of Michael Jackson's
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catalog does also now include the Beatles catalog, which he purchased.
So I don't I'm not I'm rather sin sure where
that falls. Yeah, but this but this, to me, this
is this is wrong.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, let's put it this way. Bruce Springsteen sold his
catalog for five hundred and fifty million. Bruce Springsteen is
a great artist, great, but his catalog cannot possibly compare
to Michael Jackson's.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
It's just it's not possible. No, it's not possible. The
great one of the greatest selling artists of all times.
I get that Bruce Springsteen is still doing show.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I'm sorry. And Sony owns Bruce's as well. Yeah, yeah,
see this is a problem. Oh shame.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
Look, and they're taking advantage of Catherine, No, not miss Jackson.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well I think I don't know. I think that Michael
Jackson was somewhat estranged from his family and he should
have had some sort of family involvement as far as
his legacy and a state. And for Catherine to be
on the outside says to me that Michael was not
interested in having family members be part of his executors
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of his estate or otherwise we would be able to
avoid this, or because we also know that Michael Jackson
had estranged himself for much because his family they all hanged.
He's the one that that, at least, by all appearances,
wasn't hanging. I believe that people took advantage of Michael Jackson.
Put it this way, Solitude. Queen the band sold their
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catalog to say It with Me, Say it with Me,
Sony for one point twenty seven billion, double Michael Jackson's catalog.
I look, hey, come on, come on. I love Queen,
love kay, but not twice as much as Michael Jackson. Now,
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and it's not. You can't tell me they sold as
many albums. You can't tell me they've had the same
musical impact as Michael Jackson. You can't tell me that
their catalog has the same value. And Sony, when you
hear Queen songs in commercials, that's Sony making their billion
dollars back. Yeah, absolutely, licensing the rights to use it
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in commercials or parts of movie soundtracks. Whatever this is,
I don't like, uh. And I know.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
Michael Jackson's children were somehow involved in this fight as well.
And I think that at least let this be a
wake up for any recording artists out there, and how
to now while you are doing music, now start protecting
your music long term.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They don't learn of Phil Collins and Genesis three hundred million,
Sting three hundred million, Tina Turner three hundred million. Kiss.
Speaker 9 (26:24):
Tina Turner half as valuable as Michael Jackson's I Love Ta.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Kiss three hundred million Kiss catalog is worth as much
as Tina Turner's. I don't know about that. I don't know.
David Bowie two hundred and fifty million, that seems real undervalue.
But again depending on the artists and the estate, they're
just cashing out again.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
When Doctor Dre and Justin Bieber are able to sell
their catalogs, current catalogs for two hundred plus million, these
are current artists. Michael Jackson should not fall in the
two hundred in the just four hundred million dollar more
than Justin Bieber's.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's part of the problem. And also I blame the
executors of the state because obviously they took the first offer,
not the best offer. They could have gotten more than
six hundred million from Michael Jackson's catalog.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Hell, I'm sure Justin Bieber's probably looking at this like,
are they out of their minds? Probably? Probably? I know
they're out of their minds. It's Later with bo Kelly.
Football season is back. You know, I'm a USC Trojans fan.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
USC is no longer in the Pac twelve because the
Pac twelve no longer exists. They have gone to the
Big Ten and they start their season on Sunday. I'll
tell you about it when we come back.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty and hooray.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
College football is back. Life long USC Trojans fan, And
although the team has underperformed for the past I don't know,
fifteen years or so, I'm always hopeful that things will
be better. And if you follow college football, USC is
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in a different conference. The Pac twelve has been dissolved.
It is no more USC and UCLA and others have
moved on to the Big Ten, which means that USC
will have the most difficult schedule in the school history.
They'll be playing LSU this Sunday is a non conference game,
but it'll be in Las Vegas at the Raiders Allegiant
(28:27):
Stadium and they're probably going to get their ass kick. Yeah,
they probably are. Look, I'm a fan, but I'm also honest,
they're probably going to get the floor wiped with them.
LSU's top ten. USC's ranked number twenty three, but I
don't think they're actually the twenty three, twenty third ranked
(28:47):
team in the country. But it looks better on paper
when you know two ranked teams are playing. But here's
where it's going to be very difficult for USC. They
will be playing LSU, but obviously they'll be playing Michigan
from the Big Ten. They'll be playing Washington from what
was the Pac twelve. They'll also be playing Wisconsin and
Penn State. They will have a Notre Dame. They will
(29:11):
have arguably the most difficult schedule in the country. They're
playing some of the best of the Big Ten as
well as some of the best of what was the
Pac twelve. And this is not the best USC team.
They've had a mediocre recruiting season. This is going to
be the make or break season for coach Lincoln Riley.
I wish I had a chance to get Jane Wells
(29:33):
on the phone because we commiserate about USC every single season,
and this won't be any different. But I prefer college
football and college sports to professional one. Yes, I know
there's money now in the college sports in a way
that there's never been before because of NIL deals. We've
(29:54):
discussed that, but still there's more of a passion for
the sport on the college level than there is the
pro level that you the fandom, I don't think is
comparable the people who are traveling to watch their team play.
In Las Vegas. You'll see a lot of LSU fans
coming from Louisiana and around the country. And even though
(30:16):
regionally it's closer to USC, obviously Las Vegas is physically
closer in proximity, you probably won't have as many USC
fans traveling. But this, to me is the best part
of put us away. It's like the Constellation Prize for
the end of summer. Summer is pretty much over, unfortunately
(30:37):
with the Labor Day weekend, but you know, to compensate,
we get college football and I get to hope one
more time that we'll have a decent USC Trojans team
that can vie for a national championship, even though they
probably won't and it's unfortunate. I love doing this show
later with Mo Kelly, but there's absolutely nobody in this studio.
(30:59):
Who cares about college football with the exception of me,
not a one. Definitely not Stephan, Uh, definitely not Mark,
and sure as hell not twelve. But I thought he did.
I think he has a casual relationship with it, if
only because being from Pasadena, you are close enough to
(31:22):
college football. I know the Rose Bowl is UCLA, but
I'm saying you're close enough in an l a sense
where you can feel it and have some sort of
connection to it more than a combined of me and Mark. Yeah,
but yeah, Okay, here comes Twallette to me. I'm wrong. Okay, Twala,
are you an absolutely not college football fan or a
kind of sort of.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I could care less about college football and that makes
you care then, huh you could care less. That means
you care a lot. I care less than a little.
I couldn't care less. I could not care less. I
could not care less. There isn't less of a care
that could be given. Almost zero blanks given for college football.
(32:08):
I'm trying to make it clear. This is so hurtful.
There was a squirrel that I saw smashed in the
street on my way here, and I said to myself, Damn,
I care more about that dead squirrel than I care
about any of your silly college football game. I wonder
I am on the grammar though. You've got a good
angle going. I tried, I tried, he didn't catch up.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
That's all. That's okay. Well, I guess it's not too
much more for me to say, since nobody else cares.
Can if I am six four nothing, Bueller, bueller. We're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app to prepare to be
stimulated k f I KOs T HD two, Los Angeles,
(32:53):
Orange County, everywhere on the radio
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's not yet a holiday, but a holiday is almost
upon us. Labor Day. President Grover Cleveland signed a law
back on June twenty eighth, eighteen ninety four, making the
first Monday in September a national holiday, and it was
called Labor Day. And as customary, you may wonder, is
(00:27):
this going to be open? Is that going to be open?
Is the county office is going to be closed? I
have stuff I need to do on Monday. I get it.
I get it. Well, we also have the information, since
it is a federal holiday. Banks closed, and just in
case you're worried about your stock portfolio, it'll be just fine.
New York Stock Exchange closed, the courts closed, Libraries, LA
(00:54):
Public Library locations are closed. And that's just about it. Well,
the mail does not deliver regular mail, and post offices
are closed. Metro buses and subway services, we're just talking
about Metro. Last hour, if you tune in late, I
finished up the Tim Conway Junior Show and we had
a long conversation with kfi's own Michael Monks about Metro
(01:18):
and how they are displeased with a lot of my
rants and editorializing, and basically I don't care because they're
not willing to come on the show and then make
the case for Metro. But I say that to say,
Metro buses and subway services in LA will run on
a Saturday, Sunday and holiday schedule over the course of
(01:40):
the weekend. Metro Link trains will run on the weekend schedule,
and your trash, well, it will be it'll vary by location.
Pickup schedule for LA Sanitation and Environment customers delayed by
one day. What that is is my trash is picked
up on Thursday, like today, they picked up the trash
today week Since we have the holiday on Monday, it'll
(02:03):
be pushed to Friday. So just take the day in
which you usually have your trash picked up and know
that it will probably be the next work day after that.
But if you're in Burbank, pickup is on a regular schedule.
I guess with the exception of Monday. I'm not exactly sure.
I probably need to ask Tim Conway Junior. He would
probably know better than most people. Today is also my
(02:27):
last show, No, not last show, but last show before
I know people are getting ready to get hit. They
got rid of him. No no, no no, remember you fondly.
This is my last show before I and also to
wallet get on a cruise and like twelve other people
(02:47):
that we all know, tomorrow we're gonna get on a cruise,
three day cruise, Ensenada, Mexicual. But while I'm gone, Mark Ronner,
the Mark William Ronner.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Okay, you're hauling out the middle name. It's serious. Look please,
Morris William Well.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Mark is going to be leading the way not only
tomorrow but also on Monday. Tiffany Hobbs from the crew,
the later crew will also be here. Stephan is going
to be on the Ones and twoes. He's going to
be the DJ with the mostest. He's going to be
the hostess, as they say, hostess with the mostest. But
it's going to be a wonderful two days. You won't
(03:31):
miss me. I'm quite sure Mark is going to do
a wonderful job. If I have the ability to listen in,
I'll listen in. You should.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I have a wonderful surprise guest lined up for tomorrow night. Good,
absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Good. Did you follow my advice? Which which advice is
that as far as how to pitch it. Oh no,
I groveled. Was it the one that you were telling
me about? No?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
No, no, total surprise. Really you're going to fill your pants? Oh,
don't even tell me.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
No, no, no, that's good. I would rather just experience it,
you know, it's like oh wow, and be or be
completely underwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's like, oh wow, it's gonna be a lot of fun,
I promise you. All right, all right, Well, have you
picked all your clips?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Because I'm under the impression that you're going to play
name that movie called classic.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Oh we got to do that. It's Friday. Yeah, I
got the clips out of the way fast. We're gonna
do well, it'll be a surprise as well, but it'll
be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
All right? Just yes or no? Is it a theme?
Do you have a theme? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
All right? Did you have a problem trying to pick
just ten? You could say that? Yeah? I think you're
I think you're kind of getting warmer now, I honestly
don't know. So I'm just judging what I know about
you as a person, that's all. And you have a
little OCD in you as well. Yeah, I can see
you obsessed over this we have that in common. Well,
(04:50):
that's going to be tomorrow, and if things go well,
or even if they don't go well, I'll be sending
in pictures and video of Twala will what will be
his maiden voyage, if you will, his first time on
a cruise ship ocean liner. See how well he adapts
to it, and it should be high comedy.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, I've been thinking about this because I have a
similar phobia of deep water, and Twala, like a rational adult,
understands that human beings are land mammals not meant for
deep water, and everything else that's in the water can
move faster than we can. But I'm not sure how
deepest phobia goes, so like, I don't know how much
is fair to to mock him about it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, it's not like we're going to do a short
excursion and Twalla's going to go snorkeling. You don't even
remember this show, staff expected you never watched an episode
of your life. Can't you even name the bartender? That's
what I thought. Oh, that's an easy one.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't, but I know his catchphrases. Can I fix
anybody a drink? Okay? All right? Can you name the
captain of the ship, isn't it. Uh? Yes, all right?
Who is the doctor? I don't know that one. How
about the purser, Nope, that's I think the extent of
(06:12):
my The tour director no her name. Well, you need
to to get some more love boat in your life. Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
The tour director hung up the phone on me once
when I called her about an interview.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Just she had a tough life after the show. She
you know, she went through some stuff and she may
not have known whether you were setting her up or
whether it was going to be a legitimate, you know, conversation.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I didn't get the idea that she wanted to find
out one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
But we did have Ted Lange on the show. That's
how you pronounced that. Yes it is Lange. I never
knew that. Yes, I just saw his name. I thought
it was laying too. Yes Lange.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He's a super nerd in what way, the only way
and the only way. He knows his comic book lore.
Oh well, that's cool, So he must appreciate the original
star Trek.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I like you tool. Okay, Hey, it just got personal, like,
what do we do it? I thought it was all
love right now?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well, it is, But I love you enough to spread
the gospel of Kirk.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You keep that filth to yourself. Okay. Did I tell
you about the time I interviewed William Shatner twice? Once
or twice? Okay, I just wanted to make sure I
threw that out there. I believe you've mentioned that in Passing.
Did I tell you how I interviewed Michelle Nichols before Passing?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't remember. I'm sure you took long showers with
the whole cast, and you want to rub my nose
in it. Yes, I'm jealous. Okay, it's a bath. It
wasn't a shower? Even better? Yeah, Kuzie whatever. Yeah, I'm
jealous of all of it. It's later with mo Kelly.
Did I tell you how I interviewed the son of
Leonard Nie Boy?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You did not know?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I did?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And didn't he wind up getting married to somebody from
one of the spin off series He may have, I
don't know that trivia effect. Well, I'm jealous of all
of it. And he told us all the.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Hind of scenes about whether there was a real rift
between William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy. Well, you're just gonna
leave me hanging on that while I do the news.
You're gonna have to just get the podcast. Like I
sent you the Michael Usland podcast. It it still exists.
He came in studio dropping nuggets. Well, thanks for that.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I'll go research it so that I can find the
answer that you could tell me in approximateity quality pees.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It's lated with mo Kelly CAFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And just in case you didn't know, we've been following
the story in Orange County. Public officials are continuing their
calls for Orange County Supervisor Andrew Doe to step down
in the wake of reports of a charity employing his
daughter which allegedly misused millions of dollars in tax funds,
allowing his daughter and others to purchase million dollar homes,
(09:00):
and there are possible federal charges looming Andrew Doe Supervisor Doe,
his house and others were rated. Recently joining us right
now is kfi's own Corbyn Carson with the latest Corbyn
First Good Evening. How are you sir?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Doing pretty good?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, this story is really reaching into a lot of
areas of Orange County politics. The first we really heard
about these allegations of impropriety came up when Supervisor Andrew
Doe had voted or directed millions of those COVID relief
dollars to the nonprofit Via American Society, and Doe did
not disclose that.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
His daughter, Rhiannon Doe, worked for the nonprofit.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
And an investigation shows that not disclosing that relationship is
not illegal, and a local state politician has recently proposed
to build to require such relationships to be disclosed.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Then, earlier this month, Orange County sued.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
The Viet American Society and its president, Peter Fann. They
alleged misappropriation of millions of dollars of pandemic relief earmarked
for delivery of meals to needy families that also included
a organization called Hand to Hand Relief that was a subcontractor.
They were also sued the laws who claims the nonprofit
and Rhann and Doe.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
They used the words brazenly plundered.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
The funding, including the allegation that Doe used the money
to buy a house, as you mentioned, And then those
raids happened this week. That was out the home of
Rihann and Doe and the home of Supervisor Andrew Doau
and his wife. That's Rihanna's mother and she's the OC
assistant Presiding Judge Cherry fam So again, this reaches deep
into Orange County politics as well as into the courts.
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Since then, several supervisors have come out calling for Doe
to resign. The board plans to strip them of all
committee assignments at their upcoming board meeting on September tenth.
It is important to note again that Supervisor Doe has
not been named as a defendant in any of those cases.
But this is really getting a lot larger as we
move along.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Now.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
A couple of things I'm working on points that the
FEDS have frozen all of Via America Society's accounts.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
A lawyer for Vieta America Society, Mark.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Rosen, says this is causing needy families to go hungry,
all for what he calls political retaliation.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
My clients have provided services since twenty twenty. They submitted
monthly in voices which were paid. They submitted evidence of
the services. People from the county were free to come
and look. They're free to come now and look and
all of this came up in twenty twenty three when
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people in the county or Intido's political opponents decided they
wanted to do a hatchet job on him. And that's
what's motivating this.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Yeah, and he says the county's asking for receipts from
meals that were delivered four years ago during a global pandemic.
Here's him explaining why that's not even reasonable.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
They had to provide these services on an emergency basis.
Now three or four years later, starting in twenty two
twenty three, the counts is complaining about the record keeping
going back to twenty twenty and people forget at the time,
we had people delivering meals, we had people cooking the meals,
but they couldn't really interact with the recipients, the poor
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and disabled because they weren't supposed to have contact because
of the pandemic. And so they're trying to create ideal
circumstances in twenty twenty four for what was in emergency
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, So a lot going on here.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Look, first thing, as far as Supervisor Doe goes, they're
playing word solid politics here where it may not have
been illegal not to disclose. But when it comes to
ethical behavior, there are two responsibilities. You have to avoid
engaging in actual impropriety and you have to avoid engaging
in the appearance of impropriety. Both matter. Now, whether it's
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illegal or not, the federal and investigation will decide. But
a person of innocent mind acts accordingly. If you know
that there's million of dollars or in this case, more
than ten millions of dollars going to change hands, and
it's going to change hands to an organization in which
your daughter is one of the co founders or the
co president of a person of venice of mind will say, hey,
maybe I need to divulge that information. Paed deemic or not.
(13:16):
I know you can't comment on that, but it smells
real bad from where I'm sitting, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
And that's something some of the other supervisors did comment
on this week. Supervisor Doe did not go to the
board meeting this week, but he this topic was brought
up by at least two of the supervisors, and a supervisor,
Vincente Sarmiento, talked about how some of those dollars that
you're mentioned, how he's upset that those dollars were really
needed that how so many people were dying in his
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city when he was mayor in Santa Ana and they
could have used this money that was allegedly diverted somewhere else.
Here's him discussing how Andrew Doe should not continue on
because this whole thing is a distraction.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
I would ask him and would demand that he stepped down.
I believe that his six hundred and fifty plus thousand
residents deserve somebody who's going to be able to deliver services,
be responsive to his constituents. And again, I don't do
this lightly because I am a big supporter and proponent
of due process rights that everybody has, and I have
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complete confidence in the courts when they do when they
do things properly, that people are going to be held responsible.
But I do think that at this point it is
very difficult for a supervisor any board office to carry
out its public functions given what we're dealing with right now.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Meanwhile, Supervisor Katrina Police says stepping down is the right
thing to do.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
I presume Supervisor Dooe is watching this meeting, so I
will speak directly to him. Andrew, please resigned. Resignation is
not an admission of guilt and you are entitled to
do process. However, your position on the board is untenable
and will only cause harm to the good work of
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the county. If you truly care about this county, as
you have claimed many times in the past, then you
will step down so we can begin to heal the
deep wounds that you have caused all of us.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Supervisors Wagner and Chaffey were much more cautious with their words.
This is right along party lines. That should be something
we say up front. Foley and Sarmiento being Democrats, while
CHV Wagner and Supervisor Doe are Republicans. Wagner has said
people should let law enforcement do their job and not
rush to judgment. But he's also the board chair, so
again did call for the vote at the meeting. At
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the next meeting to strip Dough of all committee assignments.
So it remains to be seen what will happen in
this case next.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It is very messy, and there is a long and
strong paper trail that money went from A to B
and people made decisions and signed off on it. I
think it will be pretty clear when all of a
sudden done. Cortin Carson, thank you for staying on this story.
Thank you for following up and will continue to watch it.
Appreciate it. Sorry, Thanks, It's the Later with Moe Kelly.
When we come back, we want to tell you about
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another legal issue. A ruling has cleared the way for
the sale, you could say, another sale of Michael Jackson's
music catalog. Will tell you about that. NEXTFI Am six
forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It's hard to remind myself that Michael Jackson died some
fifteen years ago. Fifteen years and in the world of music,
that's more than a lifetime. That's like two generations of
music lovers coming and going. You have fewer and fewer
people who actively remember Michael Jackson as a superstar in
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his heyday. And if you talk to a true Michael
Jackson fan, you'll find any number of responses. As far
as his best album, I think his best album album
is Off the Wall. That bumper Rock with You is
from the Off the Wall album, and I think top
to bottom it's better than Thriller, definitely better than Bad.
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I mentioned his music because his music catalog is probably unparalleled.
I'm just talking about the Michael Jackson portion, not the Jackson's,
not the Beatles portion that he bought a long time ago,
just the Michael Jackson solo artist portion of his catalog.
And Michael Jackson is, if you know anything about his history,
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was dealing with severe financial issues. He was trying to
save Neverland Ranch. He was trying to go back out
on tour one last time to generate money and sales
to deal with some of those issues. But then, as
the story goes, he did die in untimely death. And
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what is common, I guess amongst many popular artists when
they die, their catalog balloons with respect to value. Michael
Jackson's was no different. His music was purchased all over
the world. He had new hits, He had the song
that he did the day excuse Me, the duet with
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with Justin Timberlake. Love never felt so good. And that's
just not unusual when you have a deceased artist, their
music is more in demand, such that the value of
his catalog ballooned, and there began a fight as far
as either liquidating the catalog to trying to address some
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of the debts that Michael Jackson had left and also
make some money, but the executors of his estate had
final say. His mother, Catherine Jackson, wanted to make sure
that the Michael Jackson music catalog stayed in the family,
or at least stayed under the auspices of the Michael
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Jackson estate. The estate was trying to sell the catalog
back to Sony Music Group for some six hundred million dollars.
His mother tried to block the deal, but now there's
a new court ruling which has paid the way for
this deal to go through and sell the music back
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to Sony for about six hundred million dollars. And if
you've been paying attention, just about every artist that you've
ever known or loved, they've sold their catalog at some point.
They're cashing out. They know that they can get from
three hundred million to a billion dollars in a lump sum,
as opposed to just holding on to the rights and
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the royalties forever. They'd rather just cash out now. And
that's what the Michael Jackson estate is trying to do
for some six hundred million, which is nothing to sneeze at.
And I can be of two minds can. I can
understand why Catherine Jackson is dismayed. I know there's a
financial interest. I'm not saying that she's wrong for having
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the fine financial interest, but I understand at least if
you're a Michael Jackson purist, you would think selling it
back to the record label is kind of sad, if
only because that means the record label gets to make
money in perpetuity off of Michael Jackson, and the Michael
Jackson estate will have no say. What does that mean?
They can do Michael Jackson holograms and have it go
(20:21):
out on tour. They can license his music for commercials,
even though we may think that that would be heresy
depending on the product. They can do anything they want
with the music. They can allow someone to remake it,
they can sample it, allow other artists to sample it.
There's no limitation. The record company can do ring tones
(20:42):
with the music. They can do anything they want, and
you won't be able to protect the legacy of Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I think the sell price for that six hundred million
years is a still that is actual heresy. I mean,
this man's catalog will live on forever.
Speaker 9 (21:03):
He will always be Michael Jackson. We are not talking
about like the likes of a Justin Bieber. Now, no
disrespect to Justin Bieber, but who sold his for what's
some close to one hundred and fifty maybe two hundred million,
and that's just his previous material, that's not anything that's
about to be coming out soon. I just think that
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that arguably one of the greatest recording artists in any lifetime.
Them valuing the catalog at six hundred million, that is
a slap in the face for what everything you just
laid out, You just laid out at least two billion
dollars net worth that that catalog can generate.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Let me make it real simple for someone who may
not know how the business works. When you have an
artist and they make a record, depending on how many
points they have on an album, they may work. They
may make anywhere from you know, six cents on every
album to maybe a couple of dollars. Most of that
money is paid to the record company because their artists
are given in advance for their recording and then they
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go out on tour to recoup that advance, and when
money is doled out from album sales record sales, the
artist gets paid last. Usually the smallest portion of the pie,
the record company gets the most. That's why people are
sometimes angry when the record company buys the catalog back
because they were already making of just say, two thirds
(22:30):
of the money to begin with, and now they can
for six hundred million, they can put out albums, new
albums in perpetuity. That means anything in his vault which
was unreleased, you can do remixes, you can do an
a capella, stripped down version of and they can easily
make to your point, to all a couple billion dollars
just release some unreleased material or different remixed material of
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Michael Jackson albums in the way that Taylor Swift has
remixed and redone resung her own albums. They could easily
make that money back in a few years. So the
six hundred million dollar price tag, it's not nothing, but
it's pennies on what Sony Music is going to make.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
I mean, if you can tell me that Bob Dylan's
catalog was sold it five hundred million is comparable to
Michael Jackson's catalog because this goes back because Michael Jackson
got back the rights to all of his stuff. And
if I'm not mistaken, a large chunk of Michael Jackson's
(23:31):
catalog does also now include the Beatles catalog, which he purchased.
So I don't I'm not I'm rather sin sure where
that falls. Yeah, but this but this, to me, this
is this is wrong.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, let's put it this way. Bruce Springsteen sold his
catalog for five hundred and fifty million. Bruce Springsteen is
a great artist, great, but his catalog cannot possibly compare
to Michael Jackson's.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
It's just it's not possible. No, it's not possible. The
great one of the greatest selling artists of all times.
I get that Bruce Springsteen is still doing show.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I'm sorry. And Sony owns Bruce's as well. Yeah, yeah,
see this is a problem. Oh shame.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
Look, and they're taking advantage of Catherine, No, not miss Jackson.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well I think I don't know. I think that Michael
Jackson was somewhat estranged from his family and he should
have had some sort of family involvement as far as
his legacy and a state. And for Catherine to be
on the outside says to me that Michael was not
interested in having family members be part of his executors
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of his estate or otherwise we would be able to
avoid this, or because we also know that Michael Jackson
had estranged himself for much because his family they all hanged.
He's the one that that, at least, by all appearances,
wasn't hanging. I believe that people took advantage of Michael Jackson.
Put it this way, Solitude. Queen the band sold their
(25:05):
catalog to say It with Me, Say it with Me,
Sony for one point twenty seven billion, double Michael Jackson's catalog.
I look, hey, come on, come on. I love Queen,
love kay, but not twice as much as Michael Jackson. Now,
(25:25):
and it's not. You can't tell me they sold as
many albums. You can't tell me they've had the same
musical impact as Michael Jackson. You can't tell me that
their catalog has the same value. And Sony, when you
hear Queen songs in commercials, that's Sony making their billion
dollars back. Yeah, absolutely, licensing the rights to use it
(25:45):
in commercials or parts of movie soundtracks. Whatever this is,
I don't like, uh. And I know.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
Michael Jackson's children were somehow involved in this fight as well.
And I think that at least let this be a
wake up for any recording artists out there, and how
to now while you are doing music, now start protecting
your music long term.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They don't learn of Phil Collins and Genesis three hundred million,
Sting three hundred million, Tina Turner three hundred million. Kiss.
Speaker 9 (26:24):
Tina Turner half as valuable as Michael Jackson's I Love Ta.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Kiss three hundred million Kiss catalog is worth as much
as Tina Turner's. I don't know about that. I don't know.
David Bowie two hundred and fifty million, that seems real undervalue.
But again depending on the artists and the estate, they're
just cashing out again.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
When Doctor Dre and Justin Bieber are able to sell
their catalogs, current catalogs for two hundred plus million, these
are current artists. Michael Jackson should not fall in the
two hundred in the just four hundred million dollar more
than Justin Bieber's.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's part of the problem. And also I blame the
executors of the state because obviously they took the first offer,
not the best offer. They could have gotten more than
six hundred million from Michael Jackson's catalog.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Hell, I'm sure Justin Bieber's probably looking at this like,
are they out of their minds? Probably? Probably? I know
they're out of their minds. It's Later with bo Kelly.
Football season is back. You know, I'm a USC Trojans fan.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
USC is no longer in the Pac twelve because the
Pac twelve no longer exists. They have gone to the
Big Ten and they start their season on Sunday. I'll
tell you about it when we come back.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty and hooray.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
College football is back. Life long USC Trojans fan, And
although the team has underperformed for the past I don't know,
fifteen years or so, I'm always hopeful that things will
be better. And if you follow college football, USC is
(28:04):
in a different conference. The Pac twelve has been dissolved.
It is no more USC and UCLA and others have
moved on to the Big Ten, which means that USC
will have the most difficult schedule in the school history.
They'll be playing LSU this Sunday is a non conference game,
but it'll be in Las Vegas at the Raiders Allegiant
(28:27):
Stadium and they're probably going to get their ass kick. Yeah,
they probably are. Look, I'm a fan, but I'm also honest,
they're probably going to get the floor wiped with them.
LSU's top ten. USC's ranked number twenty three, but I
don't think they're actually the twenty three, twenty third ranked
(28:47):
team in the country. But it looks better on paper
when you know two ranked teams are playing. But here's
where it's going to be very difficult for USC. They
will be playing LSU, but obviously they'll be playing Michigan
from the Big Ten. They'll be playing Washington from what
was the Pac twelve. They'll also be playing Wisconsin and
Penn State. They will have a Notre Dame. They will
(29:11):
have arguably the most difficult schedule in the country. They're
playing some of the best of the Big Ten as
well as some of the best of what was the
Pac twelve. And this is not the best USC team.
They've had a mediocre recruiting season. This is going to
be the make or break season for coach Lincoln Riley.
I wish I had a chance to get Jane Wells
(29:33):
on the phone because we commiserate about USC every single season,
and this won't be any different. But I prefer college
football and college sports to professional one. Yes, I know
there's money now in the college sports in a way
that there's never been before because of NIL deals. We've
(29:54):
discussed that, but still there's more of a passion for
the sport on the college level than there is the
pro level that you the fandom, I don't think is
comparable the people who are traveling to watch their team play.
In Las Vegas. You'll see a lot of LSU fans
coming from Louisiana and around the country. And even though
(30:16):
regionally it's closer to USC, obviously Las Vegas is physically
closer in proximity, you probably won't have as many USC
fans traveling. But this, to me is the best part
of put us away. It's like the Constellation Prize for
the end of summer. Summer is pretty much over, unfortunately
(30:37):
with the Labor Day weekend, but you know, to compensate,
we get college football and I get to hope one
more time that we'll have a decent USC Trojans team
that can vie for a national championship, even though they
probably won't and it's unfortunate. I love doing this show
later with Mo Kelly, but there's absolutely nobody in this studio.
(30:59):
Who cares about college football with the exception of me,
not a one. Definitely not Stephan, Uh, definitely not Mark,
and sure as hell not twelve. But I thought he did.
I think he has a casual relationship with it, if
only because being from Pasadena, you are close enough to
(31:22):
college football. I know the Rose Bowl is UCLA, but
I'm saying you're close enough in an l a sense
where you can feel it and have some sort of
connection to it more than a combined of me and Mark. Yeah,
but yeah, Okay, here comes Twallette to me. I'm wrong. Okay, Twala,
are you an absolutely not college football fan or a
kind of sort of.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I could care less about college football and that makes
you care then, huh you could care less. That means
you care a lot. I care less than a little.
I couldn't care less. I could not care less. I
could not care less. There isn't less of a care
that could be given. Almost zero blanks given for college football.
(32:08):
I'm trying to make it clear. This is so hurtful.
There was a squirrel that I saw smashed in the
street on my way here, and I said to myself, Damn,
I care more about that dead squirrel than I care
about any of your silly college football game. I wonder
I am on the grammar though. You've got a good
angle going. I tried, I tried, he didn't catch up.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
That's all. That's okay. Well, I guess it's not too
much more for me to say, since nobody else cares.
Can if I am six four nothing, Bueller, bueller. We're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app to prepare to be
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