September 13, 2024 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on the latest quake to shake up Southern California AND the expansion of LA Metro’s TAP-to-Exit system…PLUS – A look at former President Donald Trump’s SoCal fundraising stop - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Kf I AM six four years later with mo Kelly
WeLive Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I tell you, if
the fires weren't enough, and they were all by themselves,
if the heat wasn't enough, all by itself. Wake up
this morning and now I'm in the middle of just
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doing my morning research, looking to the news. It up
pops an alert that there was an earthquake imminent. Stop, drop, roll,
duck for cover, whatever it said. And the earthquake almost
started simultaneous to the alert. The good news is I
got the alert on my phone. The bad news is
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I couldn't do anything about it. I mean, it could
have been my wife rolling over and saying, hey, there's
an earthquake. It would have been the same impact as
in not at all. There's nothing I'd be able to do.
But it was good to know that I got an
alert and I didn't have to have my location.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Tracking on.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I didn't have to put on my location on my phone,
and I didn't have like the shake alert app. It
was just like any one of those other alerts, like
if you had a silver alert or an amber alert.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Now we have earthquake alerts. And it didn't scare me.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It was just, oh, wow, that's interesting. And of course
you know, you had the earthquake, and I felt it.
To say all that, I felt it. It wasn't anything major,
and I knew, oh, that's not a five. And I
saw the original report. The initial report was like five
point one. I said, it didn't feel like a five.
Didn't feel like it. And then they readjusted it down
to four point seven. But I thought about Tawalla where
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he was saying that the more earthquakes we have may
lead to the more earthquakes that we have. Not that
I'm fearful, but it's not anything I can can control,
and I don't know if it's anything I can even
prepare for beyond my meager earthquake kit in my car. So, yes,
we're having more earthquakes. I don't know if they're becoming
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stronger in strength. They're hovering in the in the threes
and the fours. Every once in a while we have
one closer to a five, like today, But it's not
like they're getting progressively stronger.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's all I can say. I don't know about that.
Because for.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
A while, we are having a bunch of and you'll
recall this because you would always say, do not mention
it unless it's a four.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
W I said five.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I don't know about that because I think, okay, we'll
go back and listen to the text said I don't
care about anything below a five. I would bring up
a quake. You would always be like it was a
two something, a three something, that was nothing. Now on
the regular we are having high threes and even some
mid to high fours. So they are over the period
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of time, which since we've been looking at this, getting stronger.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Recency bias, recentcy bias bias.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You can look at we can go and look this up.
You will see twos and threes. And now we are
seeing high threes and mid to high fours. Okay, we'll
see let's use this as a benchmark and we'll see
what the next earthquake, if we should have a next earthquake,
if it should go up or should it go down. Now,
we get earthquakes all the time that we don't necessarily
feel they're not always reported. You know, if we have
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a two point seven, not in an aftershock, but an
actual quake unto itself, we don't necessarily hear about it.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So I don't know if they are more numerous, or
if we're just more aware of them. Four point seven,
that's relatively significant. I would say it's noticeable. Most people,
I think are going to feel that. But we're also
looking at it within the context of we've had more
earthquakes that we have reported in recent weeks. But you know,
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the fires, Wow, that's a lot still dealing with that
Line fire and other fires around California. The heat, thank goodness,
with no thanks to Mark Ronner because he couldn't bring
along any real rain to you know, get rid of
some of this heat.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But the heat's going away now. Always looking for escapegoat,
aren't you. Well you know, I'm always looking to blame
you for something. There's a difference scapegoat. It's very general
and abstract and nonspecific. I'm looking to blame you. Thank
you for the clarification much for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And now we have the earthquake which started off the day,
but it woke me up. I mean, I was you
know how you wake up and you look at your phone.
You're just kind of half awake, you're not really fully awake.
Then I got the the alert, the emergency alert, and
on my phone, I don't know about yours fwallow minus
that business. This is I mean, it just it's going
to startle you. And I said, what the hell's going on?
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What's what's going on? I mean, who got abducted? Who's missing?
That's what I thought, because I thought it was one
of those more traditional alerts. And then I realized it
was an earthquake alert. I had been asking for that
for the longest. You know, why is it you just
can't send out an alert like you would any other time.
But you know, but we had to get the shake
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alert app. You had to turn on your location services. No,
I'm not gonna do that. It's going to burn out
my phone for an alert, which is only give me
your best two three seconds.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
See, I got the alert while I was driving, and
so I'm driving into work. I got the alert, and
like a few seconds later, my daughter called me and said, Dad,
didn't you feel an earthquake? And I'm like, no, I'm driving.
I can't tell anything right in my cars going up
and down the freeway. I'm bumping around and shid scare
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the heck out of me. I didn't know what was
going on. So she felt it felt it up in
North Hill so, but I got the alert, and then
shortly after just like I'm talking like b and then
all of a sudden, two seconds later, ring, I'm getting
a phone call. So I like the fact that I
got an alert and enough time that I think we
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are getting closer to some real prediction.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, all right, if.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You can give me ten seconds, that's what I'm looking for, realistically,
ten seconds. I can do something with that. Mark Ronerd,
Did you get an alert this morning? Yeah, from the
person shaking me in bed. I kind of print out
a sheet of paper and tape it on the headboard
that says, if I am asleep, no, I didn't feel
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the earthquake. No, the earthquake didn't wake me up.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Get out. But this happens every time, every single time.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
What time did you do you think you got to sleep?
Because I know this just ruined your morning? Oh it
was late because I've always had terrible insomnia. I don't
think I got to sleep till after six am last night.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
My gosh, I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I couldn't stay up to six am if my life
depended on it.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I don't think so, not anymore. Well, I didn't want to,
but I was just wound up. I was writing and
I was reading. Then I watched an episode of Slow Horses,
and you just get wound up. I would do anything
to be able to get to sleep. Soay, And in fact,
you gave me a while back some some natural stuff
to go to sleep, and I've been trying it out.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, the tart cherryes y. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So yeah, Stephan, good evening. Did you get to the
alert this morning?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
No? No, because I don't want to get woken up
like you guys did by the phone.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So I didn't get an alert and I was.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Completely knocked out, so I didn't feel anything anything.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Wow, Okay, all right, yeah, right now, here's the real question.
Does everyone have an earthquake kit in their car? In
their car? Home is a little bit different, but in
their car. I have the concepts of it in my
call a plus well play, We'll just leave it there.
It's later with Mo Kelly caf. I am six forty
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live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we have a
metro update. Nobody died, no one got stabbed, at least
to the best of by knowledge.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But it's an update.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You're listening to. Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And since I sat down with kfi's Michael Monks some
weeks ago talking about Metro, how Metro had been reaching
out to him, trying to feed him information, trying to
somehow influence my commentary on Metro, And since I sat
down with him, there has been no overture from Metro
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to come on this show. There's been no opening of
the lines of communication, at least back channels to see
if we can come to some agreement, they can offer
some representative I'm not going to beg I put out
the invitation and it has been ignored. To the best
of my knowledge, they know how to email me directly.
They know how to contact me because it was explain
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to me that they are not happy with, i'll say,
the tone of my commentary. They feel that I've left
out some information, but they don't offer anyone to clarify
or correct me. So I'm going to keep going in
the direction that I have been going. La Metro, according
to published reports, is now enforcing their tap to Exit
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program in Santa Monica, but they've also announced that they're
expanding this tap to Exit pilot program to all ten
end of line stations, but they're starting it with this
Santa Monica station. And if you don't remember, writers are
supposed to tap their cards to enter the Metro system,
but with this pilot program, writers will also have to
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tap to exit, meaning if you didn't pay a fare
to board, you'll have to pay a fare at the end.
The thinking is that, according to the stats, up to
ninety four percent of people arrested on La Metro for
a violent crime don't have a valid fare or tap card.
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The thinking is that the program will make sure it's
only being used by customers for legitimate travel. Let's stop there.
This is this is some really faulty logic here. I
understand there is a correlation between criminals, let's just call
them criminals, and not paying the fare. Because criminals are
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out there criminally, they don't pay the fare. That's consistent.
There's a correlation that the criminals are not actually legitimately
on the trains. But there's not a causal relationship between
not paying your fare and that leading to criminality. And
there's not a causal relationship between making people tap to
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get off the train and that decreasing crime.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Here's why.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
If if you were criminal enough to get on the
train without paying, you're probably criminal enough to get off
the train without paying. Also, this is just end of line.
This is one station. And not to remind people, I
did ride the Metro. If you don't go all the
way to the end of the line, this tap to
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exit program, which is clearly not foolproof.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
If you've seen the pictures.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It seems like you can slide under or climb over,
but it's not going to physically keep you on the train.
Or even if it does keep you on the train,
you'll just go in the other direction because it can't
keep you on the train forever. You'll just get off,
maybe the stop before the end. Why because you know
that there will be more resistance at the end of
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the line. When I was riding, the end of the
line for the Red Line was North Hollywood, and I
sometimes or most times, I get off at Universal City,
which is one stop before the end. And if I
were out there trying to somehow fair jump, and I
knew that I would have more resistance. I don't know
if they'd be able to stop me, but more resistance
if I went all the way to the end of
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the line, since I would be out there as a criminal.
You know what I probably would do. I'd probably get
off before the end of the line. I didn't pay
to get on. I know I can get off with
no resistance if I get off before the end of
the line. I don't know how this is actually supposed
to work, but Metro, since I know, you listened to
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me every single night, and I do appreciate the support.
Don't get me wrong, it's very flattering, very very very
flattering to know that you listen, and you listen intently,
and you hate listen. You get mad every time I
talk about Metro, and you want to talk about every
time I talk about Metro, but.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You don't come on this show. I need someone to
explain this to me. Explain it to me like I'm five.
Explain it to me like I'm in fifth grade. And
they say, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Let me know how keeping people or I should say,
forcing people to pay to get off is somehow going
to decrease crime.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I understand the correlation.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's almost like saying, hey, criminals don't pay taxes, Well,
that's you know they're criminals.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know they're going to circumvent the law.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But you haven't shown me or haven't at least put
it in print or explained it where it makes sense.
How forcing people to pay at the end when they
didn't even pay to get on is somehow going to
be a deterrent to them shooting, stabbing, or punching someone.
I don't know how much it is to ride metro now,
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Let's say it's two dollars and fifty cents, okay, And
I'd like to use Mark as a foil. Of course
you do. And Mark is going to get on La
Metro tomorrow. He's gonna pay his two dollars and fifty
cent fair. He's just gonna ride no excuse me, I'm sorry,
I'm going to use him as a criminal. He doesn't
pay his two dollars and fifty cents fair, and he
gets on in Long Beach the Blue line, and then
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he's gonna get on the Red line, and he's gonna
ride the Red line almost to the end. They're about maybe,
I don't know, fifteen to twenty stops in between. Do
you know how much criming Mark can do between getting
on in the Long Beach on the Blue line and.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Before I and I need to clarify something. Have I
robbed a seven eleven before I got on quite possibly,
quite possibly, depending on the time.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Let's say it was maybe four in the morning, and
you're gonna use Metro as your getaway vehicle. Okay, so
you just run and jump on the Metro and according
to this, if you don't take it to the end
of the line, you will not have any problem getting off.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
It's just like being in heat.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I had to make it weird, had to make it weird,
and it took me a second. Is he yes, he is,
Yes he is, and coming from a cat owner. Yeah,
if that makes.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Sense, I'm a DeNiro movie. Oh yes, okay, that's what
I meant. Oh sure he did.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Anyhow, it doesn't make sense how forcing people to pay
before getting off when they didn't pay to get on
is somehow going to be a deterrent from shanking writers.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
As they go.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Shanking, you're whipping out the prison terminology.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I like that. Well, look, it's kind of like a
prison yard. It kind of is.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, let me pause to take my fare out of
the old prison wallet.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And I understand it's not supposed to solve everything, but
I'm not so sure this solves anything. I don't know
if this is more press release than actual policy.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That makes a difference.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I don't know if just because you're going to at
one station, they're saying is going to be rolled out
at the end of the line for all the lines,
So the one station or let's say two, if you
do it on both ends in both directions, that that's
going to stop all the crime in between, or or
it's going to prevent them from getting off the train
at all, even if they go to the end of
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the line.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Because why criminal.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Think the easy takeaway here is that it's far more
efficient to lean on one of our reporters than to
answer direct questions from you.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I guess so.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But if the goal is to change either my perception
or my commentary about Metro, I mean, am I that intimidating? Mark?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And I'm going to ask you this because I know
how you're gonna answer it.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I'm fully intimidated by you can't can't you tell?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I mean, I'm shaking look at me.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
You would think it would not be a difficult task
to reach out and offer some sort of representative to
help further explain this, because to me, it just doesn't
make any sense. And yes, to be serious, there is
an endemic problem of crime on Metro trains. That's why
we keep having these conversations. That's why we keep having
these incidents. That's why we keep having these frustrated Metro
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employees in the communications department about my commentaries. But this
is not going to solve the problem. It's not and
I'm not sure that it's even going to improve the
prole if anything, is just going to change how we
look at the problem.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I can tell you haven't been a journalist for a
fairly long time now. There's especially with government and city
type folks, they can often consider discussion and mockery of
the problem to be worse than the actual problem.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
This is what I've found.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
No, you're correct, because even in this instance, they are
more upset theys than La Metro. Upset at the shaming
that I've done, not the actual crime which is happening
that I'm shaming them about. That does seem to be
the case, Yeah, it'd be different. They say, hey, no, no, no, no,
your facts are incorrect. This is actually what is happening,
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and this is having a positive impact on it, and
it's being missed in what you're reporting to your listeners.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I'd be willing to.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Have that conversation, but that's not the conversation that they
want to have.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Well, I don't know if you're aware of this, but
we have a proud tradition in the United States of
blaming the news media for reporting on the problem and
discussing it as opposed to being horrified by the actual problem. Oh,
I never knew that. It's like a little mini history
lesson Tonight. It's Later with Mo Kelly k if I
AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And as I told you earlier in the week, I
think right now I can't say for sure, but I'm
pretty sure right now former President Trump is here in
the LA area asking you for your money.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Maybe you're with him right now. We'll talk about it
in just a moment.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I wish I could tell you, but it's a secret.
I guess we're not supposed to know.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Former President Trump is in town, or at least reportedly,
he's in town for a fundraiser in the LA area
this evening, and there is going to be a planned
news conference tomorrow from the Trump National Golf Course and
Chill Palace verties tomorrow maybe late morning, early afternoon. And
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again this refers back to a post on the Trump
forty seven committee website and social media which says that
there will be an evening reception in Los Angeles today,
but it did not provide the exact location in time.
But I think this is like kind of fundraiser time said, dinner,
How are you gonna get people together?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Spend some money. You know this will be the time
it would be going on.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
But to attend the event, it would cost you, assuming
that you were in the know, thirty three hundred dollars
at the minimum. That's just to walk in the door
and get your rubber chicken dinner. Thirty three hundred dollars.
Preferred seating is offered for a donation of seventy five
hundred dollars. If you're willing to pony up fifty thousand dollars,
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they'll even throw in a photo op and attendance to
a special reception.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh there's more.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
If you're willing to to give up one hundred and
twenty five thousand dollars, you will be elevated to the
title of co host of the event and also will
include a roundtable discussion with the former president himself, as
well as a photo op and reception. I don't know
reception for you, a reception for him, or attend reception.
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It's not clear. But if you want to serve as
a member of the host committee, and I don't know
if there are any responsibilities involved, but at least be
listed or shouted out. It's going to cost you a
quarter of a million dollars. If you have money like
that and you feel so strongly about getting Trump reelected,
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knock yourself out. I don't have that kind of money.
I don't have that kind of money for any politician.
Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. But you know, if
I were a tech billionaire, maybe, But tomorrow he's scheduled
to be at the Trump National golf Course or it
says you're at nine am, so the well, yeah, I
guess the news conference will be scheduled at nine.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That means he'll probably hit around nine thirty. I'm guessing.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Is this uh fundraiser? Does it come with? Do you
get like a pair of Trump's gold tennis shoes? Do
you get a limited edition trading card.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It doesn't say.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
But in my history of going to big ticket events
down on this level, they usually have a swag bag.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
That's what I'm saying, Like this swag bag. And I
know he's constantly offering swag. He's got bibbleheads, he's selling,
he's got what those little what those little things, those
non fundable total NFTs.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't know what would be the swag bag because
they're being ultra secretive about where it is. I don't
know if they're trying to keep the press off the
scent and they don't want a necessary coverage, or they're
trying to keep hidding some of the more influential attendees.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It just seemed odd that you wouldn't have that information available.
But I guess if you were a serious inquiry, then maybe, yeah,
they'll give you the information. But you know, thirty three
hundred just to get in the door, and if you
want to prefer CD and I don't know, thirty three hundred,
I don't know if that even gets you a seat,
it might be just standing room.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm so confused because for the most part, I would
think if you are campaigning, and you are trying to
make sure that people know you're still the hot ticket,
Like you know, I'm still the man. You would want
it out there, who's coming, who's attending, who's spending these
big bucks, to let it know that you still have
some pulls, some draw Why would you want to come
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through like a thief of the night.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
You're not wrong. I'm trying to read into this. Yeah,
I don't know why all this is clandestine in nature.
I don't know why it's secretive. I don't know why
they don't want us let us to know that where
this event will be or some of the headliners who
are going to be attending. But thirty three hundred gets
you in the door, Seventy five hundred gets you preferred seats.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't know what preferred means.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Fifty thousand will include a photo op with Donald Trump
and attendance at a reception, and I don't know if
it's there or somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Maybe it's a reception after the news conference tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
One hundred and twenty five thousand dollars will get you
to the level of co host. But here's the thing
I don't understand. If you pay your money at the
last minute. Does that mean you'll get your name on
a placard which is placed on the table. Do they
shout you out on the microphone and say, hey, misterm O'Kelly,
glad to see you in the house tonight. Donated one
hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. Please give him a
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round of applause. Is it that or is it something else?
Are you listed on the Trump website and perpetuity? No,
these are real questions, because if I were going to
give one hundred and twenty five thousand, I want to
know exactly what I get. And maybe that's just for
the serious inquiries and they'll tell you over the phone.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But anytime I hear about a promotion, an event, anything
this big where they are this scant on the details,
I think fire festival and that's it.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
TMZ probably will find out, and they'll probably be there,
and they'll probably report who they saw going in and
coming out. I mean, because they have a I don't
know how they do it, but they have a beat
on everyone everyone. And also if people are coming into
Lax and you see a Peter Thiel or someone like that.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You might be able to get the information out of him,
you know.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Or if Elon Musk, for example, were to show up
at Vanny's airport, at the private airport with his jet
and he's seen around about town, then you probably know
he's going to the Trump fundraiser.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Maybe no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
If he's if Elon Musk is in LA right now,
he is going to.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
The Trump fund out no, no, no, no. I don't doubt that.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
What I'm saying, maybe these levels of stars and names
are showing up. But to me, when you're not, when
you're keeping the information quiet, that means no one's showing
up or people that you don't want to know that
are associated with your showing up.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
It's one of the two.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, I would be concerned because, yes, you would want
more press coverage to encourage more people to show up,
and you wouldn't need to post it on a website.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You would be used.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You'd be phone banking it and calling these potential big
money donors directly.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
That's just in my history.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But we'll but we'll know more by the end of
the night, hopefully where it was, how successful it was.
Some of the people who might have been in attendance
and who made major donations. And then we'll probably see
Donald Trump tomorrow for this press conference from his country
club tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Give that information to you use so you have it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's Later with Mo Kelly KFI AM six forty Live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And next segment, remember how
I told you yesterday about how big I was on
education generally, civics specifically, saw this poll about what people
did or did not know about the Constitution, basic facets
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about American government, and maybe you'll be surprised, but I
was not surprised. We are pretty ignorant about the country
in which we live. We'll tell you about that next week.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Everyone talks about freedom.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Everyone talks about it, freedom of this, freedom to do
that life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, YadA YadA, YadA, blah
bah black. But I always wonder how much you actually
know about civics and the Constitution. I hear people all
the time, I read about people all the time. I
love the Constitution, I love this country. I'm a patriot,
And oftentimes they don't even know what they're talking about.
(26:58):
And it's really confounding to me because people say they
love the Constitution, and I always say this, it's weird
that you love a document. But okay, whatever, you love
the Constitution, but you probably don't even know what's in
the Constitution. I mean, loving the second Amendment in the
first Amendment doesn't mean you love the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It means that you just like eight sentences of the Constitution.
But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But to quantify how much we do or do not
know about the basics of our own government, the Edinburgh
Constitution Day Civic Survey is back, and the Constitution Day
is September seventeenth, and it offers a fascinating glimpse into
what Americans think they know, what they actually know, and
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what they don't know about our government and constitutional rights.
I found this really interesting. Nearly two thirds of Americans
and I think, Mark, you get a kick out of this.
Two thirds of Americans, sixty five percent can correctly name
all three branches of government. I'm surprised that it's even
sixty five percent.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
When you put some people on the spot about that,
you get some pretty crazy answers.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Right. They think it's the Ninia pizza and the Santa Marias. No, no,
if you're lucky.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
When it comes to the First Amendment, and we talk
about this all the time, not only here on the show,
but just in our social media whenever there's a story
about someone being sanctioned or fired or somehow criticized for
what they may say publicly, people want to say freedom
of speech, have no idea what it is. But when
it comes to the First Amendment, almost everyone knows about
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freedom of speech. Seventy four percent of people surveyed said
it's connected to the First Amendment freedom of speech, But
the other four rights protected in the First Amendment most
people don't know. Only thirty nine percent could name freedom
of religion, twenty nine percent we're able to name freedom
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of the press, and twenty seven percent could recall the
right to assembly, and only eleven percent could name the
right to petition the government. Because most people stop at
freedom of speech and they have no idea what that
means or what it also includes. And I always tell people,
and I should say, this is how I test people.
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If you understand what freedom of speech is, give me
the first five words of the First Amendment, because that
will tell me if you understand, because people say, wait,
elon Musk, he's bringing back freedom of speech. No, he
has nothing to do with freedom of speech. It's a
private platform, you know. Whether he allows you to say
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whatever you want or whether he blocks everybody has nothing
to do with freedom of speech. And that's why I say,
give me the first five words of the First Amendment.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Congress shall make no law.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
So if it's not connected to to a law that
has been enacted by Congress or some other portion of
the government, it does not have anything to do with
freedom of speech. In other words, if I should get
fired tonight for something I should say, which is the
same possibility if I, you know, say something stupid, I
can get.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Fired for abusing a fellow employee, right hypothetically, speaking of course, yes,
and iHeart slash Kfi says, MO, you are done.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You've crossed the line. That's not a free speech issue.
I'm borrowing this microphone. You know, they're providing the space
for me to talk to you right now in your
car at home on your iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's not a freedom of speech issue.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
It's not like I'm going to be put in jail
for bothering Mark or making fun of him. But but
KFI can say, you know what, you went too far,
and I think it's time for us to separate.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Not a freedom of speech issue.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I can go home and I can get on my
computer and you know and type of way I can
write letters. I can stand on the corner and yell
at the top of my lungs and not go to jail,
assuming I'm not violating some sort of ordnance noise ordinance.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
But people don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
They want to say, like, oh my gosh, they fired
Gina Krona before lest she posted on social media.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
That's the violation of freedom of speech.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
No, it isn't first five words Congress shall make no law.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
If you learned that, you learn the First Amendment.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
But the survey, also getting back to this survey also
found that twenty two percent of the respondents and this
is really funny. I'm funny, but not funny, twenty two
percent of the respondents said the right to bear arms
was in the First Amendment. One in five a little
better than one in five thought the right to bear
arms and all the Second Amendment of constitutional scholars out there,
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So what do you mean, of course it's a second amendment.
But you know, people mistakenly overestimate how much they know.
So percent of people surveyed said the right to bear
arms was part of the first Amendment. And the survey
also dug into what Americans knew or what they thought
they knew about the Supreme Court, another hot topic. Eighty
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six percent of people surveyed were correct and knew that
the Supreme Court justices were appointed, not elected, Thank goodness.
Eighty five percent new justices serve life terms. Fifty six
percent were correct and understood that the Supreme Court, not
the president, had the final say on whether presidential actions
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or are constitutional, or any law for that matter.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Well, when you show into the equation that the president
nominates the justices, that does throw a wrinkle in there.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It does it impacts the final decision or you know,
the opinions which will be written. Yes, yes, they are
definitely connected. I'm just talking about the basic civix of
it all. Yeah, you can never count on people knowing
the basic Yeah. And but see that's the thing it's like,
and people get loud when I say loud. You know,
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they're bold on social media and they're wrong. I mean,
and it's never more evident than with the First Amendment,
something that supposedly we all hold dear and believe you.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Me I bet you.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
The next time someone gets fired or someone gets criticized,
or someone gets suspended, or someone gets fined for something
that they say, or someone loses a job for something
that they say. Someone, and it might be you listening
right now, will say, oh my gosh, this is a
free speech issue.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
No, it isn't.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Please learn how your contrary works. Congress shall make no law.
It's later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Will help you figure it out. It's kind of what
we do.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Ok.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
S i' KOs Los Angeles, Orange County. Lives everywhere on
the Engart radio app.
Kf I AM six four years later with mo Kelly
WeLive Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I tell you, if
the fires weren't enough, and they were all by themselves,
if the heat wasn't enough, all by itself. Wake up
this morning and now I'm in the middle of just
(00:44):
doing my morning research, looking to the news. It up
pops an alert that there was an earthquake imminent. Stop, drop, roll,
duck for cover, whatever it said. And the earthquake almost
started simultaneous to the alert. The good news is I
got the alert on my phone. The bad news is
(01:04):
I couldn't do anything about it. I mean, it could
have been my wife rolling over and saying, hey, there's
an earthquake. It would have been the same impact as
in not at all. There's nothing I'd be able to do.
But it was good to know that I got an
alert and I didn't have to have my location.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Tracking on.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I didn't have to put on my location on my phone,
and I didn't have like the shake alert app. It
was just like any one of those other alerts, like
if you had a silver alert or an amber alert.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Now we have earthquake alerts. And it didn't scare me.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It was just, oh, wow, that's interesting. And of course
you know, you had the earthquake, and I felt it.
To say all that, I felt it. It wasn't anything major,
and I knew, oh, that's not a five. And I
saw the original report. The initial report was like five
point one. I said, it didn't feel like a five.
Didn't feel like it. And then they readjusted it down
to four point seven. But I thought about Tawalla where
(02:02):
he was saying that the more earthquakes we have may
lead to the more earthquakes that we have. Not that
I'm fearful, but it's not anything I can can control,
and I don't know if it's anything I can even
prepare for beyond my meager earthquake kit in my car. So, yes,
we're having more earthquakes. I don't know if they're becoming
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stronger in strength. They're hovering in the in the threes
and the fours. Every once in a while we have
one closer to a five, like today, But it's not
like they're getting progressively stronger.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's all I can say. I don't know about that.
Because for.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
A while, we are having a bunch of and you'll
recall this because you would always say, do not mention
it unless it's a four.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
W I said five.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I don't know about that because I think, okay, we'll
go back and listen to the text said I don't
care about anything below a five. I would bring up
a quake. You would always be like it was a
two something, a three something, that was nothing. Now on
the regular we are having high threes and even some
mid to high fours. So they are over the period
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of time, which since we've been looking at this, getting stronger.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Recency bias, recentcy bias bias.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You can look at we can go and look this up.
You will see twos and threes. And now we are
seeing high threes and mid to high fours. Okay, we'll
see let's use this as a benchmark and we'll see
what the next earthquake, if we should have a next earthquake,
if it should go up or should it go down. Now,
we get earthquakes all the time that we don't necessarily
feel they're not always reported. You know, if we have
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a two point seven, not in an aftershock, but an
actual quake unto itself, we don't necessarily hear about it.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So I don't know if they are more numerous, or
if we're just more aware of them. Four point seven,
that's relatively significant. I would say it's noticeable. Most people,
I think are going to feel that. But we're also
looking at it within the context of we've had more
earthquakes that we have reported in recent weeks. But you know,
(04:13):
the fires, Wow, that's a lot still dealing with that
Line fire and other fires around California. The heat, thank goodness,
with no thanks to Mark Ronner because he couldn't bring
along any real rain to you know, get rid of
some of this heat.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But the heat's going away now. Always looking for escapegoat,
aren't you. Well you know, I'm always looking to blame
you for something. There's a difference scapegoat. It's very general
and abstract and nonspecific. I'm looking to blame you. Thank
you for the clarification much for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And now we have the earthquake which started off the day,
but it woke me up. I mean, I was you
know how you wake up and you look at your phone.
You're just kind of half awake, you're not really fully awake.
Then I got the the alert, the emergency alert, and
on my phone, I don't know about yours fwallow minus
that business. This is I mean, it just it's going
to startle you. And I said, what the hell's going on?
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What's what's going on? I mean, who got abducted? Who's missing?
That's what I thought, because I thought it was one
of those more traditional alerts. And then I realized it
was an earthquake alert. I had been asking for that
for the longest. You know, why is it you just
can't send out an alert like you would any other time.
But you know, but we had to get the shake
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alert app. You had to turn on your location services. No,
I'm not gonna do that. It's going to burn out
my phone for an alert, which is only give me
your best two three seconds.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
See, I got the alert while I was driving, and
so I'm driving into work. I got the alert, and
like a few seconds later, my daughter called me and said, Dad,
didn't you feel an earthquake? And I'm like, no, I'm driving.
I can't tell anything right in my cars going up
and down the freeway. I'm bumping around and shid scare
(05:55):
the heck out of me. I didn't know what was
going on. So she felt it felt it up in
North Hill so, but I got the alert, and then
shortly after just like I'm talking like b and then
all of a sudden, two seconds later, ring, I'm getting
a phone call. So I like the fact that I
got an alert and enough time that I think we
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are getting closer to some real prediction.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, all right, if.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You can give me ten seconds, that's what I'm looking for, realistically,
ten seconds. I can do something with that. Mark Ronerd,
Did you get an alert this morning? Yeah, from the
person shaking me in bed. I kind of print out
a sheet of paper and tape it on the headboard
that says, if I am asleep, no, I didn't feel
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the earthquake. No, the earthquake didn't wake me up.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Get out. But this happens every time, every single time.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
What time did you do you think you got to sleep?
Because I know this just ruined your morning? Oh it
was late because I've always had terrible insomnia. I don't
think I got to sleep till after six am last night.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
My gosh, I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I couldn't stay up to six am if my life
depended on it.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I don't think so, not anymore. Well, I didn't want to,
but I was just wound up. I was writing and
I was reading. Then I watched an episode of Slow Horses,
and you just get wound up. I would do anything
to be able to get to sleep. Soay, And in fact,
you gave me a while back some some natural stuff
to go to sleep, and I've been trying it out.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, the tart cherryes y. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So yeah, Stephan, good evening. Did you get to the
alert this morning?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
No? No, because I don't want to get woken up
like you guys did by the phone.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So I didn't get an alert and I was.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Completely knocked out, so I didn't feel anything anything.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Wow, Okay, all right, yeah, right now, here's the real question.
Does everyone have an earthquake kit in their car? In
their car? Home is a little bit different, but in
their car. I have the concepts of it in my
call a plus well play, We'll just leave it there.
It's later with Mo Kelly caf. I am six forty
(08:06):
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we have a
metro update. Nobody died, no one got stabbed, at least
to the best of by knowledge.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But it's an update.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You're listening to. Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And since I sat down with kfi's Michael Monks some
weeks ago talking about Metro, how Metro had been reaching
out to him, trying to feed him information, trying to
somehow influence my commentary on Metro, And since I sat
down with him, there has been no overture from Metro
(08:41):
to come on this show. There's been no opening of
the lines of communication, at least back channels to see
if we can come to some agreement, they can offer
some representative I'm not going to beg I put out
the invitation and it has been ignored. To the best
of my knowledge, they know how to email me directly.
They know how to contact me because it was explain
(09:03):
to me that they are not happy with, i'll say,
the tone of my commentary. They feel that I've left
out some information, but they don't offer anyone to clarify
or correct me. So I'm going to keep going in
the direction that I have been going. La Metro, according
to published reports, is now enforcing their tap to Exit
(09:26):
program in Santa Monica, but they've also announced that they're
expanding this tap to Exit pilot program to all ten
end of line stations, but they're starting it with this
Santa Monica station. And if you don't remember, writers are
supposed to tap their cards to enter the Metro system,
but with this pilot program, writers will also have to
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tap to exit, meaning if you didn't pay a fare
to board, you'll have to pay a fare at the end.
The thinking is that, according to the stats, up to
ninety four percent of people arrested on La Metro for
a violent crime don't have a valid fare or tap card.
(10:09):
The thinking is that the program will make sure it's
only being used by customers for legitimate travel. Let's stop there.
This is this is some really faulty logic here. I
understand there is a correlation between criminals, let's just call
them criminals, and not paying the fare. Because criminals are
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out there criminally, they don't pay the fare. That's consistent.
There's a correlation that the criminals are not actually legitimately
on the trains. But there's not a causal relationship between
not paying your fare and that leading to criminality. And
there's not a causal relationship between making people tap to
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get off the train and that decreasing crime.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Here's why.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
If if you were criminal enough to get on the
train without paying, you're probably criminal enough to get off
the train without paying. Also, this is just end of line.
This is one station. And not to remind people, I
did ride the Metro. If you don't go all the
way to the end of the line, this tap to
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exit program, which is clearly not foolproof.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
If you've seen the pictures.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It seems like you can slide under or climb over,
but it's not going to physically keep you on the train.
Or even if it does keep you on the train,
you'll just go in the other direction because it can't
keep you on the train forever. You'll just get off,
maybe the stop before the end. Why because you know
that there will be more resistance at the end of
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the line. When I was riding, the end of the
line for the Red Line was North Hollywood, and I
sometimes or most times, I get off at Universal City,
which is one stop before the end. And if I
were out there trying to somehow fair jump, and I
knew that I would have more resistance. I don't know
if they'd be able to stop me, but more resistance
if I went all the way to the end of
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the line, since I would be out there as a criminal.
You know what I probably would do. I'd probably get
off before the end of the line. I didn't pay
to get on. I know I can get off with
no resistance if I get off before the end of
the line. I don't know how this is actually supposed
to work, but Metro, since I know, you listened to
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me every single night, and I do appreciate the support.
Don't get me wrong, it's very flattering, very very very
flattering to know that you listen, and you listen intently,
and you hate listen. You get mad every time I
talk about Metro, and you want to talk about every
time I talk about Metro, but.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You don't come on this show. I need someone to
explain this to me. Explain it to me like I'm five.
Explain it to me like I'm in fifth grade. And
they say, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Let me know how keeping people or I should say,
forcing people to pay to get off is somehow going
to decrease crime.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I understand the correlation.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's almost like saying, hey, criminals don't pay taxes, Well,
that's you know they're criminals.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know they're going to circumvent the law.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But you haven't shown me or haven't at least put
it in print or explained it where it makes sense.
How forcing people to pay at the end when they
didn't even pay to get on is somehow going to
be a deterrent to them shooting, stabbing, or punching someone.
I don't know how much it is to ride metro now,
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Let's say it's two dollars and fifty cents, okay, And
I'd like to use Mark as a foil. Of course
you do. And Mark is going to get on La
Metro tomorrow. He's gonna pay his two dollars and fifty
cent fair. He's just gonna ride no excuse me, I'm sorry,
I'm going to use him as a criminal. He doesn't
pay his two dollars and fifty cents fair, and he
gets on in Long Beach the Blue line, and then
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he's gonna get on the Red line, and he's gonna
ride the Red line almost to the end. They're about maybe,
I don't know, fifteen to twenty stops in between. Do
you know how much criming Mark can do between getting
on in the Long Beach on the Blue line and.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Before I and I need to clarify something. Have I
robbed a seven eleven before I got on quite possibly,
quite possibly, depending on the time.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Let's say it was maybe four in the morning, and
you're gonna use Metro as your getaway vehicle. Okay, so
you just run and jump on the Metro and according
to this, if you don't take it to the end
of the line, you will not have any problem getting off.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
It's just like being in heat.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I had to make it weird, had to make it weird,
and it took me a second. Is he yes, he is,
Yes he is, and coming from a cat owner. Yeah,
if that makes.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Sense, I'm a DeNiro movie. Oh yes, okay, that's what
I meant. Oh sure he did.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Anyhow, it doesn't make sense how forcing people to pay
before getting off when they didn't pay to get on
is somehow going to be a deterrent from shanking writers.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
As they go.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Shanking, you're whipping out the prison terminology.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I like that. Well, look, it's kind of like a
prison yard. It kind of is.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, let me pause to take my fare out of
the old prison wallet.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And I understand it's not supposed to solve everything, but
I'm not so sure this solves anything. I don't know
if this is more press release than actual policy.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That makes a difference.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I don't know if just because you're going to at
one station, they're saying is going to be rolled out
at the end of the line for all the lines,
So the one station or let's say two, if you
do it on both ends in both directions, that that's
going to stop all the crime in between, or or
it's going to prevent them from getting off the train
at all, even if they go to the end of
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the line.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Because why criminal.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Think the easy takeaway here is that it's far more
efficient to lean on one of our reporters than to
answer direct questions from you.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I guess so.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But if the goal is to change either my perception
or my commentary about Metro, I mean, am I that intimidating? Mark?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And I'm going to ask you this because I know
how you're gonna answer it.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I'm fully intimidated by you can't can't you tell?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I mean, I'm shaking look at me.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
You would think it would not be a difficult task
to reach out and offer some sort of representative to
help further explain this, because to me, it just doesn't
make any sense. And yes, to be serious, there is
an endemic problem of crime on Metro trains. That's why
we keep having these conversations. That's why we keep having
these incidents. That's why we keep having these frustrated Metro
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employees in the communications department about my commentaries. But this
is not going to solve the problem. It's not and
I'm not sure that it's even going to improve the
prole if anything, is just going to change how we
look at the problem.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I can tell you haven't been a journalist for a
fairly long time now. There's especially with government and city
type folks, they can often consider discussion and mockery of
the problem to be worse than the actual problem.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
This is what I've found.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
No, you're correct, because even in this instance, they are
more upset theys than La Metro. Upset at the shaming
that I've done, not the actual crime which is happening
that I'm shaming them about. That does seem to be
the case, Yeah, it'd be different. They say, hey, no, no, no, no,
your facts are incorrect. This is actually what is happening,
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and this is having a positive impact on it, and
it's being missed in what you're reporting to your listeners.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I'd be willing to.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Have that conversation, but that's not the conversation that they
want to have.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Well, I don't know if you're aware of this, but
we have a proud tradition in the United States of
blaming the news media for reporting on the problem and
discussing it as opposed to being horrified by the actual problem. Oh,
I never knew that. It's like a little mini history
lesson Tonight. It's Later with Mo Kelly k if I
AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And as I told you earlier in the week, I
think right now I can't say for sure, but I'm
pretty sure right now former President Trump is here in
the LA area asking you for your money.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Maybe you're with him right now. We'll talk about it
in just a moment.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I wish I could tell you, but it's a secret.
I guess we're not supposed to know.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Former President Trump is in town, or at least reportedly,
he's in town for a fundraiser in the LA area
this evening, and there is going to be a planned
news conference tomorrow from the Trump National Golf Course and
Chill Palace verties tomorrow maybe late morning, early afternoon. And
(19:05):
again this refers back to a post on the Trump
forty seven committee website and social media which says that
there will be an evening reception in Los Angeles today,
but it did not provide the exact location in time.
But I think this is like kind of fundraiser time said, dinner,
How are you gonna get people together?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Spend some money. You know this will be the time
it would be going on.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
But to attend the event, it would cost you, assuming
that you were in the know, thirty three hundred dollars
at the minimum. That's just to walk in the door
and get your rubber chicken dinner. Thirty three hundred dollars.
Preferred seating is offered for a donation of seventy five
hundred dollars. If you're willing to pony up fifty thousand dollars,
(19:51):
they'll even throw in a photo op and attendance to
a special reception.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh there's more.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
If you're willing to to give up one hundred and
twenty five thousand dollars, you will be elevated to the
title of co host of the event and also will
include a roundtable discussion with the former president himself, as
well as a photo op and reception. I don't know
reception for you, a reception for him, or attend reception.
(20:21):
It's not clear. But if you want to serve as
a member of the host committee, and I don't know
if there are any responsibilities involved, but at least be
listed or shouted out. It's going to cost you a
quarter of a million dollars. If you have money like
that and you feel so strongly about getting Trump reelected,
(20:43):
knock yourself out. I don't have that kind of money.
I don't have that kind of money for any politician.
Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. But you know, if
I were a tech billionaire, maybe, But tomorrow he's scheduled
to be at the Trump National golf Course or it
says you're at nine am, so the well, yeah, I
guess the news conference will be scheduled at nine.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That means he'll probably hit around nine thirty. I'm guessing.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Is this uh fundraiser? Does it come with? Do you
get like a pair of Trump's gold tennis shoes? Do
you get a limited edition trading card.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It doesn't say.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
But in my history of going to big ticket events
down on this level, they usually have a swag bag.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
That's what I'm saying, Like this swag bag. And I
know he's constantly offering swag. He's got bibbleheads, he's selling,
he's got what those little what those little things, those
non fundable total NFTs.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't know what would be the swag bag because
they're being ultra secretive about where it is. I don't
know if they're trying to keep the press off the
scent and they don't want a necessary coverage, or they're
trying to keep hidding some of the more influential attendees.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It just seemed odd that you wouldn't have that information available.
But I guess if you were a serious inquiry, then maybe, yeah,
they'll give you the information. But you know, thirty three
hundred just to get in the door, and if you
want to prefer CD and I don't know, thirty three hundred,
I don't know if that even gets you a seat,
it might be just standing room.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm so confused because for the most part, I would
think if you are campaigning, and you are trying to
make sure that people know you're still the hot ticket,
Like you know, I'm still the man. You would want
it out there, who's coming, who's attending, who's spending these
big bucks, to let it know that you still have
some pulls, some draw Why would you want to come
(22:48):
through like a thief of the night.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
You're not wrong. I'm trying to read into this. Yeah,
I don't know why all this is clandestine in nature.
I don't know why it's secretive. I don't know why
they don't want us let us to know that where
this event will be or some of the headliners who
are going to be attending. But thirty three hundred gets
you in the door, Seventy five hundred gets you preferred seats.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't know what preferred means.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Fifty thousand will include a photo op with Donald Trump
and attendance at a reception, and I don't know if
it's there or somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Maybe it's a reception after the news conference tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
One hundred and twenty five thousand dollars will get you
to the level of co host. But here's the thing
I don't understand. If you pay your money at the
last minute. Does that mean you'll get your name on
a placard which is placed on the table. Do they
shout you out on the microphone and say, hey, misterm O'Kelly,
glad to see you in the house tonight. Donated one
hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. Please give him a
(23:49):
round of applause. Is it that or is it something else?
Are you listed on the Trump website and perpetuity? No,
these are real questions, because if I were going to
give one hundred and twenty five thousand, I want to
know exactly what I get. And maybe that's just for
the serious inquiries and they'll tell you over the phone.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But anytime I hear about a promotion, an event, anything
this big where they are this scant on the details,
I think fire festival and that's it.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
TMZ probably will find out, and they'll probably be there,
and they'll probably report who they saw going in and
coming out. I mean, because they have a I don't
know how they do it, but they have a beat
on everyone everyone. And also if people are coming into
Lax and you see a Peter Thiel or someone like that.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You might be able to get the information out of him,
you know.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Or if Elon Musk, for example, were to show up
at Vanny's airport, at the private airport with his jet
and he's seen around about town, then you probably know
he's going to the Trump fundraiser.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Maybe no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
If he's if Elon Musk is in LA right now,
he is going to.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
The Trump fund out no, no, no, no. I don't doubt that.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
What I'm saying, maybe these levels of stars and names
are showing up. But to me, when you're not, when
you're keeping the information quiet, that means no one's showing
up or people that you don't want to know that
are associated with your showing up.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
It's one of the two.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, I would be concerned because, yes, you would want
more press coverage to encourage more people to show up,
and you wouldn't need to post it on a website.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You would be used.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You'd be phone banking it and calling these potential big
money donors directly.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
That's just in my history.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But we'll but we'll know more by the end of
the night, hopefully where it was, how successful it was.
Some of the people who might have been in attendance
and who made major donations. And then we'll probably see
Donald Trump tomorrow for this press conference from his country
club tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Give that information to you use so you have it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's Later with Mo Kelly KFI AM six forty Live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And next segment, remember how
I told you yesterday about how big I was on
education generally, civics specifically, saw this poll about what people
did or did not know about the Constitution, basic facets
(26:21):
about American government, and maybe you'll be surprised, but I
was not surprised. We are pretty ignorant about the country
in which we live. We'll tell you about that next week.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Everyone talks about freedom.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Everyone talks about it, freedom of this, freedom to do
that life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, YadA YadA, YadA, blah
bah black. But I always wonder how much you actually
know about civics and the Constitution. I hear people all
the time, I read about people all the time. I
love the Constitution, I love this country. I'm a patriot,
And oftentimes they don't even know what they're talking about.
(26:58):
And it's really confounding to me because people say they
love the Constitution, and I always say this, it's weird
that you love a document. But okay, whatever, you love
the Constitution, but you probably don't even know what's in
the Constitution. I mean, loving the second Amendment in the
first Amendment doesn't mean you love the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It means that you just like eight sentences of the Constitution.
But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But to quantify how much we do or do not
know about the basics of our own government, the Edinburgh
Constitution Day Civic Survey is back, and the Constitution Day
is September seventeenth, and it offers a fascinating glimpse into
what Americans think they know, what they actually know, and
(27:44):
what they don't know about our government and constitutional rights.
I found this really interesting. Nearly two thirds of Americans
and I think, Mark, you get a kick out of this.
Two thirds of Americans, sixty five percent can correctly name
all three branches of government. I'm surprised that it's even
sixty five percent.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
When you put some people on the spot about that,
you get some pretty crazy answers.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Right. They think it's the Ninia pizza and the Santa Marias. No, no,
if you're lucky.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
When it comes to the First Amendment, and we talk
about this all the time, not only here on the show,
but just in our social media whenever there's a story
about someone being sanctioned or fired or somehow criticized for
what they may say publicly, people want to say freedom
of speech, have no idea what it is. But when
it comes to the First Amendment, almost everyone knows about
(28:38):
freedom of speech. Seventy four percent of people surveyed said
it's connected to the First Amendment freedom of speech, But
the other four rights protected in the First Amendment most
people don't know. Only thirty nine percent could name freedom
of religion, twenty nine percent we're able to name freedom
(28:59):
of the press, and twenty seven percent could recall the
right to assembly, and only eleven percent could name the
right to petition the government. Because most people stop at
freedom of speech and they have no idea what that
means or what it also includes. And I always tell people,
and I should say, this is how I test people.
(29:23):
If you understand what freedom of speech is, give me
the first five words of the First Amendment, because that
will tell me if you understand, because people say, wait,
elon Musk, he's bringing back freedom of speech. No, he
has nothing to do with freedom of speech. It's a
private platform, you know. Whether he allows you to say
(29:44):
whatever you want or whether he blocks everybody has nothing
to do with freedom of speech. And that's why I say,
give me the first five words of the First Amendment.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Congress shall make no law.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
So if it's not connected to to a law that
has been enacted by Congress or some other portion of
the government, it does not have anything to do with
freedom of speech. In other words, if I should get
fired tonight for something I should say, which is the
same possibility if I, you know, say something stupid, I
can get.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Fired for abusing a fellow employee, right hypothetically, speaking of course, yes,
and iHeart slash Kfi says, MO, you are done.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You've crossed the line. That's not a free speech issue.
I'm borrowing this microphone. You know, they're providing the space
for me to talk to you right now in your
car at home on your iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's not a freedom of speech issue.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
It's not like I'm going to be put in jail
for bothering Mark or making fun of him. But but
KFI can say, you know what, you went too far,
and I think it's time for us to separate.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Not a freedom of speech issue.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I can go home and I can get on my
computer and you know and type of way I can
write letters. I can stand on the corner and yell
at the top of my lungs and not go to jail,
assuming I'm not violating some sort of ordnance noise ordinance.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
But people don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
They want to say, like, oh my gosh, they fired
Gina Krona before lest she posted on social media.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
That's the violation of freedom of speech.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
No, it isn't first five words Congress shall make no law.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
If you learned that, you learn the First Amendment.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
But the survey, also getting back to this survey also
found that twenty two percent of the respondents and this
is really funny. I'm funny, but not funny, twenty two
percent of the respondents said the right to bear arms
was in the First Amendment. One in five a little
better than one in five thought the right to bear
arms and all the Second Amendment of constitutional scholars out there,
(31:52):
So what do you mean, of course it's a second amendment.
But you know, people mistakenly overestimate how much they know.
So percent of people surveyed said the right to bear
arms was part of the first Amendment. And the survey
also dug into what Americans knew or what they thought
they knew about the Supreme Court, another hot topic. Eighty
(32:14):
six percent of people surveyed were correct and knew that
the Supreme Court justices were appointed, not elected, Thank goodness.
Eighty five percent new justices serve life terms. Fifty six
percent were correct and understood that the Supreme Court, not
the president, had the final say on whether presidential actions
(32:36):
or are constitutional, or any law for that matter.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Well, when you show into the equation that the president
nominates the justices, that does throw a wrinkle in there.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It does it impacts the final decision or you know,
the opinions which will be written. Yes, yes, they are
definitely connected. I'm just talking about the basic civix of
it all. Yeah, you can never count on people knowing
the basic Yeah. And but see that's the thing it's like,
and people get loud when I say loud. You know,
(33:09):
they're bold on social media and they're wrong. I mean,
and it's never more evident than with the First Amendment,
something that supposedly we all hold dear and believe you.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Me I bet you.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
The next time someone gets fired or someone gets criticized,
or someone gets suspended, or someone gets fined for something
that they say, or someone loses a job for something
that they say. Someone, and it might be you listening
right now, will say, oh my gosh, this is a
free speech issue.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
No, it isn't.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Please learn how your contrary works. Congress shall make no law.
It's later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Will help you figure it out. It's kind of what
we do.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Ok.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
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