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September 21, 2024 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Guest Hosts Tiffany Hobbs & Mark Rahner filling in for Mo’Kelly with thoughts on California’s Proposition 36, New York magazine’s Washington Correspondent Olivia Nuzzi being placed on leave after admitting to having a personal relationship with RFK Jr. AND Super Thrifting in SoCal - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
It's later with Mo Kelly, except tonight, it's not later
with Mo Kelly. It's later with Mark Ronner, who's sitting
across from me.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hi, Mark, it's not a mistake. We're actually meant to
be here. And Tiffany Hobbes, my pal. We are sitting
in for Mo. We are We all just kind of
moved over a chair. MO filled in for Conway. We're
filling in for Mo. And we're going to try not
to burn the joint down again. We've already done it.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Twice well, you know, and so far, so good, relatively unscathed.
We're trying also not to cruise the or excuse me,
not to crash the proverbial cruise ship, as we talked
about in the last few segments with Mo. But with
all of that said, there is a really monumental kind
of passing of the torch and ways as well. This

(01:01):
is the last mo Kelly show of the summer. Did
you know that, Mark?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
No, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I almost scared you there for a second. Right, last
mo Kelly show of the summer. The first day of
fall is this Sunday. And as the seasons change, as
the air becomes more clear and crisp, the days are shorter,
you're not running your ac twenty four to seven. Some things,
Mark are staying the same, like crime in the Southland,

(01:28):
and like the overwhelming backlash two hour not so beloved
Prop forty seven, that familiar initiative that reduced felonies to
misdemeanors and up the shoplifting threshold to nine hundred and
fifty dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Have you heard of that, Mark?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I have. But the important question here is if it's
the last day of summer, can I still wear cargo shorts?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
You can still wear your white cargo shorts if you
want to be adventures.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I don't want to get too far off track here,
but why do women hate cargo shorts?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I think it's the fact that they're called cargo shorts.
We don't want an as necessarily carry more on our bodies.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
We are carried like.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Having a Batman utility belt.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
And before we get started with your items, we got
fush here, fush you.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Ready to roll?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
You got us, let's do it. Man tawalas here, Heather,
You're good. We're gonna call on you the team, She's there. Okay,
there we go. I think we got this. Let's roll,
let's do it well.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
The excrement has hit the proverbial fan mark with the
shoplifting that we have all been witnessing, either directly or indirectly,
and there's a new proposition that could very well be
in stated in the wake of all of this crime.
That proposition is called Prop thirty six, and it would

(02:40):
roll back aspects of Prop forty seven, which then would
increase penalties for shoplifting, smash and grabs, as well as
low level offenses for drug possession. And polls that have
been taken most recently just last week are showing that
if put to vote today, this new prop Prop thirty

(03:00):
six would surely pass and it would affect everyone mark.
It would affect me, It would affect you as shop
as both of us as customers. It would affect shop
owners and whether you are shop owner or patron. This
is a proposition that you probably will want to get
behind when you hear this next thing that's happening in

(03:22):
the city of Compton, And unfortunately it's not unique unto Compton,
but this story, this specific place is making its rounds
because of how bombastic all of this is.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
And what am I talking about?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, in Compton, there is a Rite Aid on Long
Beach Boulevard. You might have passed by it on your
way somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
You might have.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Stopped to shop there. You might have your own Rite
Aid in your neighborhood. Many of them have since closed down.
This one is still very much alive, but it is
practically encased in plexi glass mark. When you go shopping,
when you go to Right Aids and CBS's or wherever

(04:07):
you might go your local drug store, are you noticing
that more and more items are behind these plexi glass
cases now?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Because I'm ordering everything off of Amazon now because I
don't want to interact with human beings in a situation
like that or get shot in the face.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
But this is what I hear.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, And the thing about interacting with human beings is like,
at this right Aid you have to then request that
an employee comes to you and opens this glass case.
And if you were to patronize this specific right Aid,
you would find that mostly everything in this store is
now behind this plexi glass casing, whether it's your toilet trees,

(04:50):
whether there are certain items of food, whether it's medicine,
it is behind plexiglass. And this right aid has of
course installed these locked glass cases because of theft.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
That seems like it could be embarrassing. It should be imbuing,
like not everybody's going to be going up to the
counter and saying, pardon me, sir, would you help me
acquire a box of magnums from the case.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's all going to be gross stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's everything you need that you don't want to ever
involve another human being in retrieving for you. But when
you think about again patronizing these stores, you think about
going into places where you need some sort of whatever,
it may be a personal item or otherwise. Now you're
being forced to reckon with the consequences of all of
this shoplifting, and stores, as we've seen, are doing this

(05:40):
using this strategy more and more. And this particular store
in Compton is really popular now on social media because
it's become kind of a tourist destination. People are flocking
to it just so they can get footage of all
of these cases. It's so abnormal, and it should be
because we shouldn't have to wait ten minutes to get
you you're deodorant.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
No no, you need deodorant promptly, I find especially now
right at the turn of the seasons. But probably not.
Are we still talking about the props at thirty six here?
Because you know, one thing that I that occurred to
me about this was, as much as I understand that
there are thefts and smashing grabs and they have to
do something, we also know that some of these places

(06:24):
have kind of cooked the books. The National Retail Association
admitted to as much not long ago. And when you
see the figures on say wage theft, those numbers dwarf
these thefts, and so I think you have to keep
the big picture in mind.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
So we'll talk more about that when we come back.
We have a lot to cover, and I would love
for Mark to share his thoughts on these smash and
grabs and what he's experienced.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty later.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
With Moe Kelly. But we are not Mo Kelly.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
We are Mark Ronner and Tiffany Hobbes, that is I.
And just to put a pin in our last story,
we were talking about smash and grabs, the new answer
to the existing prop forty seven and all of the
things inteled in the uptick of petty theft, thefts under
nine hundred and fifty dollars no longer being taken seriously,

(07:19):
so to speak, and causing kind of this cascade of
crime in the south Land.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
And Mark you had some final thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, we're talking about increasing penalties for people who shoplifted
and stole from stores, and that's fine. I mean, I'm
going to take the bold position that I'm against crimes
and I don't care who knows about it. But you know,
there's other crime that goes on. I mentioned wage theft.
We've seen corporations like Kroger admit to price gouging, and

(07:49):
the numbers on that are big. They're bigger than petty theft.
And the thing you got to remember is nobody ever
goes to jail for that stuff.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
They don't.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
You don't see a seat, not often anyway.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, not nearly as often as just somebody who gets busted.
Like you know, I think I worked at a grocery
store for a little while in high school and I
had to we always had to go out with the
security guy when there was a shoplifter, just to be
a witness. We didn't touch anybody, but it always made
me sad because, like, here's an example. The last time

(08:19):
I had to do that, and I was what seventeen
years old something like that. The guy taps me on
the shoulder and he's like, come on, buddy, we got
to go. And it turns out it was a woman
walking with a limp, somebody who had obviously fallen on
hard times.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
She had a piece of meat in her bag.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
That's not a euphemism, no, okay, no, it was just
a piece of a modest piece of meat she took
from the butcher department. And she was like, well, I
guess she got me. Sure was a good looking piece
of meat.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
And the guy had no mercy. He wasn't gonna let
her go. He was going to throw the book at her.
I always have a little compassion because I'm a human
being for people like that. So I think it's important
to look at the reason people are doing this, first
of all, and like I said, also put it into
perspective with the bigger crimes that nobody ever gets punished for,

(09:08):
or like say with Walmart and McDonald's, all the money
that taxpayers have to pay to make up for what
they don't pay their employees who have to go on
public assistance. I think everything's connected, and that's all I
wanted to say about that.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Speaking of connectivity, and not to say that a piece
of meat is the same as say, a pair of
trainers or a pair of you know, jeans or something,
because they're not they're definitely not equitable.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, we did see Charlie Chaplin try to eat a
shoe in one of his movies, but that's more of
a rare occurrence.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Speaking of a piece of meat, Please tell us what's
going on with RFK.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, that's your segue.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
So this might seem like some insider baseball, but it's
salacious and it really does affect us all and more importantly,
it makes me angry. It turns out the New Yorkers
star reporter got herself in a little hot water and
may soon be the New Yorker's farmer star reporter because
she was reporting and got in a relationship of some
sort with someone she was covering. And that person was

(10:05):
RFKA Junior, Robert F. Kennedy Junior.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Knew what was he thinking?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, first off, as a woman, I ask you who
could resist him?

Speaker 4 (10:14):
What was she thinking as I said.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Like, ooh, that Andy vax talk could get anybody all
hot and bothered, wouldn't it. Here's some of the details,
and this is from a Variety New York magazine political
correspondent Olivia News. He has been put on leave by
leadership after engaging in a quote personal relationship with a
former subject relevant to the twenty twenty four campaign while
she was reporting on the campaign. And the subject is

(10:37):
allegedly Robert Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy Junior. According to reporter
Oliver Darcy, it supposedly the relationship, whatever it was, didn't
begin until after she profiled him in November twenty twenty three.
But just knowing that much, lady, there's three and a
half billion other men on earth. You don't have to
pick a guy who you profiled. And this is what happened.

(11:01):
These opportunities have come my way over the decades as well,
and anybody anybody else the way, I'll.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Get to that.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Anybody knows you just don't do that. It's one of
the cardinal rules of journalism. And so the magazine said
that she violated their standards around conflicts of interest. An
internal review of her published work allegedly found no inaccuracies
or evidence of bias. But if you look at this
stuff on Twitter, people are going back through all her

(11:30):
work now, Olivia Newsy. Because the thing is, we shouldn't
have to wonder about this, Okay, we need to keep
our noses clean. The magazine says, we regret this violation
of our readers trust. And here's the statement from Newsy
yourself earlier this year. The nature of some communication between
myself and a former reporting subject turned personal. During that time,
I did not directly report on the subject nor use

(11:52):
them as a source. Relationship was never physical, should have
been disclosed to prevent the appearance of conflict. Blob blah blah,
you're out of line. We shouldn't have to wonder.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I find it very entertaining that miss Newzy would include
in that that the relationship was never physical.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
We didn't ask you if that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
But I find it interesting that she would want to
distance herself from the idea.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
That she might have.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, yeah, well, we got to take her choy Forrrett,
and we got to take his word for it. But
you don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore. After
you do that. Darcy's report, according to Variety, stated Kennedy
would boast about his relationship with Newsy. Then Kennedy comes
out with a statement that says, mister Kennedy only met
Olivia Newsy once in his life for an interview she requested,
which yielded a hit piece.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Okay, well, I guess I got to take your word
for that.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
If you were trustworthy on most other things, maybe I would.
But you tend not to be so Olivia Newsy if
you're not familiar with her, she's become a pretty familiar
face on TV. Definitely one of those journals who wants
to be a celebrity, and you would think not getting
in any of a relationship with somebody you cover would
be a no brainer. But let's be honest here, a

(13:05):
little behind the scenes baseball here. There are different standards
in journalism for newspapers, for radio, for entertainment journalism.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
It's an inexact science.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I think that she and he are both wanting to
unring the bell.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
You can't do that.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
It's already been done, it's already been said, it's out there.
Just move forward from it. I think the more they
try and explain it the deeper the hole they dig
becomes well.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, and it's not clear that they're telling the truth.
And the reason that you got to keep your nose clean.
It should be obvious for anyone with the functioning brain.
People have to be able to trust us.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
We're in a.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Time when more than ever, people go to news sources
they like and they avoid the ones they don't that
don't line up with their political beliefs. We've had journalists
called the enemy of the American people, which isn't ideal.
In the United States, where journalism is specifically mentioned in
the Constitution and one of its functions is to a
watchdog for democracy. We got to keep our noses clean.

(14:03):
If I did let's just an example. If I did
a lot of reporting on say Tesla, and that reporting
was overwhelmingly positive, then it came out that I had
a bunch of Tesla stock, you might rightly be like, Hey,
that don't seem right, or okay, maybe you wouldn't say
it like that. Well, most journalists are not celebrities lack
and Newsey. I think for most of us, journalism is

(14:27):
a real calling, and I can tell you from years
of experience that the people in it largely consider it
a calling. They don't make a lot of money compared
to other people with similar experience or.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Education or skills.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Most of it take it seriously, just like doctors who
take a hippocratic oath or lawyers. On the other hand,
I've known reporters who have gone off the reservation in
both directions. Cops beat reporters who slept with cops can't
have that. You cannot do that. When I took over
as a cops beat reporter from this person, the cops
hated me because A reported on what they said and

(14:59):
what they did, and they were used to slightly different treatment.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
And I got word they were at to get me.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
They were looking to pull me over for so much
as a hint of booze on my breath, because I
wasn't sleeping with any of them and I wasn't writing
puff pieces about them. Other reporters they get to be
way too much of a hall monitor. Like I covered
the wto thing in Seattle as well as the riots,
and I was told the gift bags every single person

(15:26):
who registered got not.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
A euphemism either, right, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
The gift bags with like a bottle of wine and
some crackers in them. Everybody who registered got and I
was told we shouldn't take those because of the appearance
of impropriety and all that, And I was like, get real,
If you think I can be bought for a bottle
of wine and some crackers, you can go soak your head.
But when a prominent journalist like Newsy messes up like this,
I'm okay with getting their excommunicated. Go work in PR

(15:52):
lots of other things you could do. I profiled the
different Kennedy once, the Kennedy who was on MTV and
I think is on Fox now it's Fox. Right after
the profile ran a couple days later, she called me
up at the newsroom, just wanted to talk and I'm like, uh, hello,
can I help you? Because it's just inappropriate. Pretty sure

(16:15):
John Waters was hitting on me in a hotel room too.
I know where you got to go. But the point
is none of that's cool. If you don't like the rules,
go do something else. If you're a journalist, that's it.
And this opens up the whole issue of access journalism
that you hear about. We now know that, say Maggie
Haberman at the New York Times was one of the
people the Trump campaign said they could count on for
positive coverage if they wanted to get something out to

(16:37):
the public. This stuff makes us all look bad, and
we got to get them out, just like like antibodies
removing an infection from a body. I always pay attention
to who I'm reading, what they're doing. Got to be
a smart journalist consumer, especially with all the propaganda masquerading
his journalism. Right now, what are we gonna do when
we come back?

Speaker 1 (16:55):
What a lovely Lynchpinton. So we're going to talk about
super thrifting. What's going on at this beautiful facility.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
It's huge. I've been there.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
You have to have a lot of gumption to stay
there if you're looking for some clothes or any other
goods at this specific goodwill.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
We'll come back with that story.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
We are going to talk about popping tags and that
is a slang term for shopping. When you shop you
take the tags off instead of taking expensive tags off.
We're going to talk about thrifting and of course at
certain thrift stores. You might find a jewel, you might

(17:41):
find something that is something that you could resell.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Let's say, but at.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
One southern California thrift store in the valley, not only
are they looking for surprising goods or unique wares, this
is another gladiator type sport.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
It is a bloodbath.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
And this particular store, this Goodwill on San Fernando Road,
is known to be one of the biggest, most competitive
shopping experiences you might ever engage in mark What say you?

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Are you a thrifter?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Do you like perusing those shelves at Goodwill or Salvation
Army or something smaller?

Speaker 4 (18:24):
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I do?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
And it causes some conflict with the human I live with,
who absolutely hates that souff. By the way, we started
off playing my homie Macklemore from Seattle.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Oh look at you, knowing the jam.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I love old stuff, I love vintage stuff. I love
old gadgets.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Wait, are you considering Mackelmore old and vintage? Is that
what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
No, I switch gears. Now we're talking about the stuff
you buy.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Because if he's old in vintage, I'm decrepit in one foot.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
In Well, we're not even going to talk about me.
I cannot afford to buy mackelmore. But we're all poor,
so we're all thrifting more lately, because I mean, look,
the economy is booming by every single metric you can name,
but we're still getting squeezed to death by price gouging
from groceries, landlords, healthcare. Like I bought a couple of

(19:17):
things used on Craigslist, a couple pieces of furniture on Craigslist,
and by the way, that opens up a whole new
universe of humanity for you.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
It is.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
It is a crapshoot. It's a crapshoot.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
But it was a day after I had to spend
one thousand dollars on a car repair. So if you
wonder why a lot of us are thrifting, look no further.
But yeah, I do. I love that stuff because you
find some treasures there.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
You go.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, at this Goodwill again on San Fernando Road, they
charged not by the parcel, as far as this shirt
is three dollars or these pants or seven.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
No, they charged you by the pound.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
And I said, I actually have visited this particular store.
There's a Starbucks nearby, there's some other places nearby. It's
kind of tucked away off San Fernando Road. It's easy
to miss except for those who know what they're going
there for. And trust me when I say this place
gets crowded and busy. It looks like a warehouse and

(20:16):
it operates like one too.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Is this like one of those things where they pass
around the viral videos of people crowding the doorway like
zombies at a Walmart before Black Friday, and they just
burst in and it's like elbows thrown.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
No judgment, but yes, that's exactly what it is. This
is what these these these shoppers are doing. So again,
they charged by the pound, anywhere from three nineteen per
pound or one nineteen per pound for home goods, and
it's regardless of what you might find. It is highly competitive.
And when I went, I noticed that I was out

(20:51):
of my element.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Did you wear a mouth guard?

Speaker 4 (20:53):
I did wear a shin guard?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
You literally, you do, honestly need some sort of protective
covering because people in there are just there to get
what they want and they don't care what or who's
in their way. When you're there, there are these blue bins,
and this particular store is known for their blue bins
like many good wills, and these blue bins are filled
to five feet tall of clothing and other things, and

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you are expected to sift through with your hands. And
you see people who make this into their common, their
common Saturday or Sunday activity. They're there, they're shopping and
they are going completely crazy. The goodwill site itself has
a disclaimer. It says, when preparing to visit the blue bins,

(21:37):
brace yourself for a rough experience, including shoving and aggressive
resellers and vintage hunters. And that is an understatement mark
because aggressive is generous and kind. These people are out
for blood and jeans and shirts and they don't again,
they don't care who's in their way. And it's because,

(21:58):
like you said, the economy is not necessarily trickling down
to all, and not only are people looking to thrifting
for saving money, but they're looking for the possibility of
resale items.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I used to really think those videos were funny, but
then I realized I had a moment of epiphany where
I thought, wait, am I just poor shaming people because
they're not there because they enjoy this sport. They're there
because they need to be there. They're there because they
need to be there.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
They're there because it is yet another experience that if
you're into thrifting, people want to engage in kind of.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
For the lore of it all.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
At any rate, this store, if you're interested in thrifting,
if you're interested in being competitive and going elbow to
elbow with other shoppers, is at three one five zero
or thirty one fifty North Fernando Road nine double six
' five. Again, it's right there, just past Griffith Park

(22:55):
and all these places. It's easy to find once you
get into the area. And again, Star Books and other
places are there, but it is not easy to navigate.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I wish you well if you should go.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
How about those football helmets with the extra padding on
them that makes you look like a giant mushroom?

Speaker 4 (23:11):
You need it. These people are serious.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Well what do you get when you go?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Because I look for books and if you're selling those
by the pound, I'm screwed.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Everything.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
They have everything and then some and Mark, they may
even have transformers there, don't They might even have transformers
your favorite series, your favorite brand, And I know you're
going to talk about that when we come back. And
again when we come back, Mark's going to get into
something called Hostile Witness.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
We're going to have Tawala come in here and defend
the Transformers while I ask him a series of questions
that he's not going to.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like, finger of shame, Finger of shame, Cone of shame
around your neck.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I might learn something.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
It's Later with Mo Kelly. I'm Tiffany Hobbs. That's Mark Ronert.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Mark Ronner and from rotating in from the news booth
with my pal Tiffany Hobbs tonight as well as Tawalla
Sharp and he's in here for a segment, a new
segment that I'm calling Hostile Witness.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I need to listen.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Transformers one is opening this weekend and it's projected to
take first place debuting in theaters, making up to forty
million bucks in its first weekend. That's going to be
enough to knock down Beetlejuice out a first place to second.
And I don't get it. I Never let Go is
opening up that's supposed to make.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Like six million bucks.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
The halle Berry horror film and I need to be
tutored on this.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
But we're going to do.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Look I what I'm hearing already, disdain and your hate
for all things that are good. I am contributing to
the forty million dollar boon for Transformers one. I'm seeing
it tomorrow with my son.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I've hardy got my tickets there, okay, And I have
never seen a single Transformers movie.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Sh Do you know why?

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Shame?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Because I'm an adult. Now, hey, hey, what in the
name of Sam Hill? These films are four adults. This
is taking a child's franchise something that many grew up with,
many true nerds, true comic collectors, true fans of all
things robots, and now the robots were brought here to

(25:28):
America in the form of Tarka and then they became
Transformers and all that, and we bonded with it. To
see that on the big screen, to actually see cars
transforming into robots the first time with young Chia Labouf,
it was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well, I don't I have.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
My hand up like I'm in class. I have something
I need about this.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I remember being three or four playing with Transformers.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
It probably wasn't the branded Transformers, but an off brand
that you could get from some other little store.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
But as brand here you get it. But either way,
the thing trans transformed. It was the transform like.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
The Lee Jeans of Transformers.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Absolutely I loved it, and I grew up loving that
this thing could transform into other things.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
It was like alchemy.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
And then the movies came, Like you said, Shia Lebuff
or Labouf, whatever we call them, were disgraced at this
at this time.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
But Shia, Megan Fox.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
That whole trilogy, that whole series was just so exciting
and well done, and you had all the cinematic appeal
of it. How could you not have at least seen
the first one or two? All right, listen, how do
I how you watch every movie? How did you bypass that?

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I have nerd cred coming out of my ears? Look
at my wallet? Even what is this wallet? It's an
evil dead wallet with a face like the like the
Necronomicon and human flesh. Okay, only a nerd would carry
such a thing. So there's some a list talent in
this new Transformers. And there have been seven of them,
seven of these things, okay. Chris Hemsworth, Scarlett Johansson, Keegan,

(27:04):
Michael Key, Steve bushmy Laurence Fishburn.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Is in this thing.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
It wasn't worth it. These I hope they're getting a
lot of money for this.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I just hope.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
Mart I want you to make sure that you are really,
really clear on what it is that you are blaspheming.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Okay, there was the.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
Original Michael Bay Transformers franchise of films. Yeah, did three
with Shia, and then he did two with Mark Wahlberg.
And then they decided to relaunch the Transformers brand when
Hasbro decided to launch its film universe. And then they
gave us the Bubblebee movie, which was loosely connected to

(27:44):
the Snake Eyes movie. And now there will be a
g I. Joe Transformers film, as we saw from Transformers
Beast War. They already allude to this. Transformers One is
an animated or just story standalone all to itself. It
is not connected to the original French which after a
while turned to trash. Okay, turn to trash Formers.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I will give you that. I will give you that. Okay,
the Bumblebee movie? Did that involve an alien robot who
could turn into a can of tuna?

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Don't you diss bumble you do that?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
That is the most disrespectful thing I've heard Okay, I
hears some facts. It is the fourth highest grossing film
series with a total of five point two eight billion
dollars grossed over seven films. And these things are incredibly popular.
So I can go one of two ways on this.
I can take their popularity as a sign that we're
a civilization in decline and soon will be roaming the

(28:36):
desert wasteland fighting for gas and get the cannibalism. Or
maybe I'm missing something and that's why the two of
you are here. Now. Look, here's another example to put
this in perspective. When I was a newspaper critic, I
always reviewed the horror movies because the other critics didn't
get them, look down their nose at them, considered them trash.

(28:57):
My question to you two is have I just become
what I have always mocked?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
Because if if Martin scoor Sessey had directed a movie
about an artistic robot that transformed into a paint brush
and then sat with an incessant psychopath on a beach
trying to get inspiration, you may like that.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Now we would hate it so far.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
There you go, Well, now you're just needling me. I've
had cars that transformed but they transformed into non moving cars,
and generally when you see a car transform it it's
into living quarters for somebody who can't afford rent.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
So there's there's a deeper anger, that there's something deep
inside with you that is coming out now.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
So this is an elemental question, though, I need to
know what you enjoy about these movies because they look
just unutterably dumb to me, and I like I like
Beavis and butt heead, what do you like about these
I don't.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
Whoa you Beavis and butt Head spill out your mouth.
I then try to disrespect Transformers. I think that's the
end of your argument. The question is what am I missing?
I like other dumb stuff that there is a level
of adventure and just the amazement of seeing these special
effects wonders and these things happen on screen. If you

(30:20):
grew up playing with these things, if you grew up,
you know, spending all your time figuring out how to
make these things go from car to roll by mode,
and then you see that happen on the big screen.
It's magnificent. Now here's the thing. I challenge you, though,
I challenge you to go and see Transformers one because
it is being heralded by several critics, and you know
this to be true, has been the godfather of Transformers

(30:45):
films and one of the best origin films ever made ever,
not just animated. I challenge you to see it and
then review it on Monday when we come in and
discuss films.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Okay, I decline your challenge. The director of this Transformers
movie is Josh Cooley, and I've never heard of him.
He did a toy story movie and you know what
they William Faulkner once said, the only thing worth writing
about is the human heart in conflict with itself or
in conflict with the student loan people. Is there anything
deeper in these movies than just big robot cars hitting

(31:16):
each other?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well, Bumblebee's kind of hot. What's that means? He's a looker,
He's kind of hot, He's super charismatic. The robots are
just full of personality, and you really they're so personified.
You relate and you start to form these relationships with
them as well, and you want to follow their story.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
And Bumblebee's hot.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
There's a clinical world for people who feel an erotic
attraction to cars and inanimate objects.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
I'll wave that flag I think.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I'm all become pretty good friends over the last three
three and a half years, and I'd go as far
as to say family, not a lot I wouldn't do
for either one of you. But I'm not going to
go see a Transformers movie. I feel like the Green
Eggs and Ham guy, So.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'm going to leave. And he tried it and he
liked it. What are you talking about?

Speaker 6 (32:03):
Well, if you're if that's your analogy, and then let's
go with that. He tried it and he liked it.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
I read that, then you didn't know how it ended,
so maybe I haven't read it.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Okay, you're a psychopath.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
How would I not have red, Green Eggs and hand
I want you to imagine a Transformers movie directed by
like David Lean, the Lawrence of Arabia guy, or you
mentioned Scorsese.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
It just doesn't compute with me.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
But we're gonna leave it there, and you tuwala are
gonna go see it without me, and you're gonna let
me know how ridiculous it is. KF I am six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
I don't know what you're thinking, and I kind of
like that keeps it fun.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
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