October 5, 2024 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on Former L.A. County Sheriff Jim McDonnell being appointed as the new chief of the Los Angeles Police Department…PLUS – An in-depth look at the latest Music Industry #MeToo developments - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's letter with Mo Kelly camf I am six forty.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. But I don't
know about you. I am really ready for this weekend.
There's a lot going on for me, and I suspect
that there's a lot going on for you. We got
some real important conversations we got to have tonight. We
have a new LAPD police chief, well except for the
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city council has to vote on him, but we know
that that's a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's a formality.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Jim McDonald, who I was talking to you about a
few weeks ago, who I ran into. He was a
featured guest at the Long Beach Rotary Club and I
was there with my sister who's a member, and i'll
call him Chief McDonald. Chief McDonald and I spoke for
good fifteen to twenty minutes before the event and also
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after the event, just chopping it up talking about the LAPD,
telling me about what he thought about law enforcement, its responsibilities,
policing in America. He gave a very informative speech that
day talking about how policing needed to evolve.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It was actually on nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I remember because his message was about nine to eleven
and policing in a post nine to eleven world.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think he is the right guy for this time,
for this city.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Now, the flip side of it is every police chief
is pretty much popular day one, or at least upon
the announcement, and then life happens, crime happens, situations happened,
and then he will be scrutinized differently. Understand that completely.
I'm just saying, and I'll get into it more next segment.
Will listen to some of his speech today. I think
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he's a good dude. I set up with Tim Conway Junior,
and I think that he is sincere in what he
wants to do and what I mean by that. You
hear it in his speech, which we'll play next segment.
But I think he's sincere and for the citic that
I usually am, I didn't get those same vibes with him,
But we'll see, and we'll talk about it more later
(02:27):
this evening. And speaking of some of the things that
we'll be talking about, we're going to get into a
little bit more of the allegations surrounding Garth Brooks. I
managed to speak with one of my friends who's one
degree of separation from Garth Brooks, not the other.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So I have some initial thoughts.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And also we're going to bring in Natica Dela Cruz,
who has worked in this business as long as I have,
if not longer, as long as Tuala has in radio.
She's been in radio I don't know, for the better
part of thirty years and has met and dealt with
just about every person in this business. And it's I
think it would be a misstep on my part. We'd
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be remiss if we did not include her voice in
this conversation talking about Diddy specifically, the me Too movement
and the music industry in a general sense. And I
know she has plenty of anecdotes to add and we're
going to spend a little bit of time on that.
Also we have the run a report, very very popular segment. No,
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I mean that seriously. The numbers do bear it out
really well.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It's one of the few things you don't know, Mark,
Happy Friday. You detected a hint of sarcasm there.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I know you wouldn't dare, so I always give you
the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I hope you know that.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Why, thank you, thank you, and the subject for the
run of report tonight is to night.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
We're going to talk about joker fully uh d. That's
the French pronunciation. I get a sense that you didn't.
I love it, but I'll wait for you to tell us. Well,
I was never great at French. I had to take
it a couple different times just to get through it.
So please forgive my poor French pronunciation. No hints there.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And also we have i'll say, a lead in a
warm up a kickoff of the Halloween month. We actually
have the cities which have the most horror movie filming
locations in America. And you know, if we're talking about it,
California has something to do with it. And that's a
perfect lead in to name that movie called Classic Tonight,
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and it will be horror movies, psychological thriller movies, slasher movies, all.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The things which make Halloween great.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And also I always want to test Mark Ronner because
he is a student and at this point a professor
of the genre.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh, I can't wait. I'm excited to see what you picked.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, I'm trying to see if there's some that I
think that you should know but don't readily recognize, not
try to stump you, but I'm not trying to be
too obscure. There are some movie clips which are I think,
relatively easy if you're listening and paying attention, and there
are some which if you're not a horror aficionado, you
may not recognize.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I misjudged a couple of times I've hosted when it
was movie night. I figured that I was making the
questions too easy and people didn't know stuff that I figured, like,
everybody like lad Runner, so it gets a crapshoot.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It really is, it really is.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And last week we had one of the clips, which
was Action Jackson, and in my mind, I said, no
one is going to get this. Even if you've seen
the movie, you're not gonna get it. The only way
is if you guessed because you heard Carl Weather's voice.
And then we talked to the one person who knew
it within the first five words.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, you had a ringer calling in on that one.
I was astonished at this, and I didn't know it either.
People may not know people are contestants. They really don't know.
And I am being honest. I have a list the
ten clips. They asked for number seven. I played number seven.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm not changing you up relative to who I think
the caller is or what I think he or she
may know. It's very genuine, it's very truthful. Okay, we
let you cheat, but I'm not trying to set you
up or try to redirect the show to, you know,
accommodate certain callers.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So it's just like one of those fifties quiz shows
where no, no, you pipe the right answer to the
person you want to win.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's not like I'm in someone's ear whisperings and tell
them like it.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Is get out. That's illegal. No, we're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But we are giving away more passes to the pre
Halloween soire on October thirtieth here at the Honda Studios
at KFI and iHeartRadio. Yeah, it's a big to do,
and I mean this. We're not going to publicize this.
We're not going to promote this. You're not going to
see it on the website, and that is intentional. We
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want to make sure that the people were coming to
the party really want to come to the party. We
want to make sure that the people who will be
at the party are the people who've been listening to
the show and know the show and want to be
part of this celebration. So it's we can fill up
the room. It's not a problem. It's just who is
going to be in the room. It's going to be
filling it up, that is most important. We're gonna have
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swag that were given away. We're gonna have mugs, We're
gonna have key chains, We're gonna have t shirts. You're
gonna be in costumes. We're gonna be having a good time.
Some of us might even be drunk, not me because
I have to be on the radio, but there will
be libations there. I can't speak for anyone else except
for to Walk because he doesn't drink. Now, as far
as Stephani and Mark will take it as it goes.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Sorry, I have a news professional. I'll have you know.
I h That's all I'm gonna say. Fact right, I
haven't drunk. One has nothing to do with the other.
The words came out of my mouth. I realized, you know,
that could go either way. That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
When we come back, we're going to talk more about
Jim McDonald and his recent appointment as LAPD's next chief.
I am six forty. It's later with Mo Kelly. We're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
We will have a new police chief for LAPD, Jim McDonald.
You may know that he was former La County sheriff.
He was a former police chief for Long Beach and
longtime member of LAPD ranks working his way up. And
I feel very good about this pick by Mayor Karen Bass.
For all the discussions that we've had about crime here
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in the city and also here in the county. You
can't talk about crime and just the city. I understand
the chief is for LAPD and LAPD is for La
City and its unincorporated areas, but it works hand in
hand with LA County and I feel comfortable and confident
about this pick Jim McDonald. And I've only had the
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opportunity to meet a few of the previous chiefs or
dialogue with them, Bernard Parks, Willie Williams, and there was one.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Other I think a cross paths with Charlie Beck. But
that's about it.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's an impossible job, of course, and you're never more
popular than when you first take the job, and then
controversy and crime will happen, and it chips away at
that popularity. But going in, I think this is a
very strong pick someone For all the talk of you
may want an outsider to come in from a different city,
(09:39):
Oh it's Chief Bratton.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's what it was, Chief Bratton.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
For all the talk of outsider like Bratton or someone
else coming in from the outside and changing the police department,
I think someone with McDonald's experience in Los Angeles County
red large is beneficial and probably very helpful in the
direction of LAPD. And here is what some of what
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he had to say earlier today after Mayor Bass introduced him.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And the LAPD Academy forty three years ago. And I
pause when I say that because I just can't wrap
my head.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Around that that is a long time.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I love this city and I understand the modern day
challenges our officers face and trying to protect it. To
our LAPD officers, I thank you. You answer the call,
you perform your duties with dignity, and you hold each
other to the highest professional standards. Standing before you hit
today is a dream realized. It's a tremendous honor to
lead the men and women of the LAPD. We will
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work hard to make sure that you are supported with
your work to be able to keep all Angelinos safe.
In simplest terms, my goals are to enhance public safety,
To grow our department back to full strength through a
solid recruitment and retention campaign. To strengthen public trust, the
foundation of all we do. To further develop community relationship
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and chips and to be able to take that to
new levels. To ensure respectful and constitutional policing practices and
all that we do. And to prepare our organization in
our partner agencies for the many challenges that face us ahead.
As I prepare to take this role, I bring with
me a comprehensive understanding of public safety from law enforcement,
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academic and business perspectives. In the next five years, the
eyes of the world will be honest. Los Angeles will
host the World Cup, It will host the Olympic and
Paralympic Games, will host a Super.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Bowl and an NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Our department will and our city will be showcased, and
we will be prepared. What a great opportunity that is
for all of us in LA. I look forward forward
to working with Chief Choi, and again thank you, Chief Choice.
Probably the happiest guy here today, and I thank the
entire LAPD team for all all that's been done and
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all that we will do together to make Los Angeles
an even safer city and to make every member our
fire department proud of our organization. I know that Mayor
Bass is committed to making Los Angeles a safer city
each day, and we'll support our efforts, and I'm thankful
for that. The reason I'm here today is because I
believe in her commitment. We will face our challenges together.
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To those considering a career in public safety, I say,
join us to build a safe for Los Angeles. This
is a time of great challenge, but a time of
tremendous opportunity.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yes, there will be some challenges, there will be some
obstacles in the near future. As he listed, you know,
you got the World Cup, you have the Olympics and Paralympics,
you have NBA All Star Game. Those are situations which
can be problematic for all sorts of reasons. And you
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have the eyes of the country, if not the world,
on us, especially when you're talking about the Olympics and
the World Cup. I do not I don't know why
he came out of retirement again to do this, but
I think I suspect that he sincerely wants to see
a better Los Angeles for you and me. He didn't
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have to do this, he doesn't need this, but he's
choosing to do it, And in my limited interaction with him,
he leaves me with a very good feeling. He did
promise to have an open line of communication with me,
so I hope to dialogue with him in the future
as we move along through these events and situations. And
as much as I talk about Metro, he probably will
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have an outsized input and also impact on what happens
with Metro and how policing will evolve and change here
in the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So LA has some big.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Time events which are going to be here, and of
course you know that, but also the problems that we're
going through right now are big in and of themselves.
I don't know where he would to start. I don't
know all of his philosophies, but I do know he
did express to me he wanted to change the morale.
He wanted to change the perception of LAPD. He wanted
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to get the Police Academy back up in its cadets
who wanted more people to seek out public service in
the form of law enforcement, and I think he might
be the right guy for that. I don't necessarily know
all the particulars the insides of what's going on with LAPD,
so I'm not going to overstate my connection to him,
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but I do think that this is a major step
in the right direction, and I think it was a
fine choice by Mayor Bass And she and I may
disagree politically on a number of issues, but this is
something I think she made the right choice and got
the right person for the right time in this city.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
We want to talk about Garth Brooks, P Diddy, Jaguar Wright,
you may or may not know that name. Will introduce
you to her if you don't know her, Jay Z
and more, and we're going to do it from an
informed perspective.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
By now you should know that country music star Garth
Brooks has been accused of raping and battering a woman
who claims she worked as his hair stylist and makeup artist.
She has filed the suit under the pseudonym of Jane Rowe,
and she says that in the paperwork the lawsuit that
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Garth Brooks allegedly raped her in a hotel room during
a work trip where she felt trapped and alone with Brooks,
and I reached out to a couple of my friends,
one who had worked with him, toured with him, written
songs with him, and another who had worked more on
the periphery with him and his casual friends with him
and has known him for more than twenty years. One
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person I was able to reach and have the conversation
with another I was not. But this is what was
told to me. And this is someone who actually listens
to the show. And the first thing he threw back
to me is like, MO, we don't know these people.
Something I always say, We don't know these people. In
other words, people that you may like their talent, you
may like how they sing, and they may have a
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public persona which is very pristine, but you don't know them.
And there are people who have spouses that they don't
even know. They don't know what they're doing when they're
out on the road. So I say that to say,
I know the public persona of Garth Brooks, but I'm
looking at this within the context of the larger me
too moment of the music industry which is happening right now.
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I don't put anything past anyone, but this is one
thing I will say before we move on. There are
reportedly text messages, and the text messages say whatever the
text messages say, and can tell a story which I
believe is inarguable on some level as far as the
other allegations of of sexual harassment and exposure of genitals,
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or if there any type of depicts or things which
might have been sent. So I'm still taking a cautious
approach to that. But joining me in the studio right
now is not a Cadela Cruz, someone who's worked in
radio and music industry with the biggest names for at
least thirty years.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Is that fair? Yes? Correct?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Okay? And you are from New York.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You know a little something about the New York scene,
the New York hip hop scene.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You've probably interviewed Ditty how many times?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
About four, four or five times?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Okay, and you've been to a Diddy party.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
About about four of them especially, I think the last
one was in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay, what did you see? What did you notice? What
do you make at this moment.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
You know, this is kind of hard because at the
end of the day, if there's facts and receipts, that's
what people are going to look at, you know what
I mean. And you said something earlier, we don't know
these people. Yes, we don't live with them, we're not
married to them, we don't.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Sleep with them. So therefore we really truly don't know them.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
We know the surface level of everything, and everything done
in the dark always comes to the light regardless. But
I will say this that you know when you go
whether it's a Garth Brooks or a P. Diddy, when
you go to their concerts or you go to their
parties or their after parties, there's always something that's going
to be a consequence. And I remember one time I
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was in Vegas and I went to a white party
in Vegas and the Didty Party, Yes, and there was
tons of celebrities, a big name celebrities that we know
that are still famous to this day now.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
I only stayed to show faced.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
You know, sometimes there were I've always was one of
those I'll show up.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
I'll tell my program director I showed up.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
But also as a radio personality, I would show up
because that would give me something to talk about that,
you know, that next day or Monday or so forth.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
And you know, you saw a lot of different things,
but you you.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
You saw things, but you were like, oh, that's what
seletelebrities do. You know, they kiss on the lips or
they're very touchy touchy or you know, not with me,
though not with me. But I will say that I
think everyone knows that the real party was always the
after party.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And I always want to make that distinction.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
If you see someone post a picture, here's a picture
of did he and Donald Trump? Or or did he
and someone else? I try to tell people, look, that's
the press portion. You know your people famous people, don't
famous people. They take pictures of famous people. The parties
that we're talking about, the freak offfs, those are the
after party, expelling that for people.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yes, those are the parties that start normally after one o'clock.
And if you you know, sometimes he would make an
announcement those that want to stay could stay.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Those who don't want to stay don't have to stay.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But he but he's saying that with people understanding that
it was going to change exactly.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
And I think after one o'clock, you're pretty much done
and me, at least I turned into a pumpkin pumpkin spice.
But talking about something that you said about pictures, my
mother called me yesterday and she was asking me about
p Diddy and she.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Was like, did you ever go to any of his parties?
And I said yes. She was like, what, she goes,
you don't have any pictures with him? I said, oh yeah,
I said, I have a picture of me.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
And him on Instagram at Nauticadella cream right away, shameless plug.
My mom goes, no, please take it down, Take it down,
I said, Mom, I said, it's just me and him.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
He's not touching me. I said, you could see his
hand is barely touching me.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I said.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
He was a young pa didty at that time. I'm
sure the freaks had started back then, I said, but
you know it was a dinner party. He was promoting
some sort of album. But my mom doesn't want me
to be affiliated. She doesn't want even a picture of
me and him, because I you know, I'm a respectable woman.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Little Craig great, but I'm respectable.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
How many times have you interview to him about four
What did you notice about his demeanor or what was
possibly how he'd address other people when the.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Okay, So the first two times I interviewed him, he was,
you know, barely come. He was coming up, you know
what I mean. And so he was over talking promoting
a lot, you know, talking about the producers and the
album and you know, get ready.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Okay. The third time I interviewed him, he was a
little bit more calm.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
The fourth time I interviewed him, it was like he
didn't even want to be in the studio, like, you know, okay,
like is this done?
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Is this interview done?
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Like?
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Did you ever witness any untoward behavior towards staff women
maybe in his employ anything of that nature.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No, you know what.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
He would always come with two guys. I knew one
was a bodyguard. I don't know who the I can't
remember who the other one was. But he was never around.
There was never females around.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
It was just him.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
But he always wanted to the last two times, is like,
come on, let's get this interview over with.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Let's go arrogant, yes a little.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
You know, when he first came out, he was hungry
for those for those that might know this, I would say,
my new York Crew.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
They called him puff for a reason. It wasn't because
of the way his lip looks.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
It's because he would puff him pout if he didn't
get his way. That's how he ended up with the
name Puffy, you know's that's what you know people were
saying in the streets. But you know, when he was first,
first coming up, he was hungry.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
He wanted to promote.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
He wanted to promote Biggie's album, and he wanted to
promote all the bad boy artists, Mason so forth.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
But you know, after that he.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Got a little big and you know, when you start
making you know, money, your god, it's kind of like,
oh I'm invisible now, like nothing matters, Like you're not important.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
You're just a peasant to me.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I I noticed when I worked in the business, I
saw a lot of things that weren't for public consumption.
I heard a lot of things and knew a lot
of things which were not meant to be repeated. Even
to this day, there's certain stories that I'm not going
to tell because I know that there could be consequences
for me and my family. We were talking off the air,
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and there are stories that you know that you can't
tell correct, And I know that there are other stories
that other people probably were scared of telling. And I
made the point that at least in the music industry,
the threat of violence was real. It wasn't about worried
about their careers per se, it was about their lives
and their families.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I agree absolutely.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
I I don't know if you follow Jaguar Wright, but
I fear for her because she's just on Piers Morgan.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Oh, yes, I'm correct.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
I've been going through this rabbit hole and just watching
every single Twitter I'm not Twitter, I'm sorry, TikTok video
and she's she says a lot of stuff I already knew,
and I'm like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
In her last interview, just for people to know, she said, quote,
for four years, I've been screaming not just Diddy, but
Diddy and jay Z are monsters, and the victim making
machine kept going on. She has had a long and
consistent refrain about Diddy and jay Z being basically one
in the same. In other words, if you dig deep enough,
she's insinuating with jay Z, you will find the same
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stuff as with Diddy, if not worse.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
And you know the thing about Jaguar is she is
not only speaking the truth. Nobody is after her. She
has facts, received, texts, messages, videos, you name it.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
She is untouchable right now.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
But I do fear for her just walking in the
streets of New York or wherever she lives. I know
she's sometimes she can be bi coastal, but I fear
for her.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
People forget Tupac was shot and killed. Correct, Theori's big
was shot and killed. Those P Diddy's artists. There've been
a number jam Master Jay. There's always been a criminal element,
either within the music industry or just on the periphery.
There's always been a drug element within or just on
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the periphery of the music industry.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
They went hand in hand.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
The violence was real, and I don't understand why people
are still saying why didn't so and so come forward
because she was afraid of getting killed. When we come back,
we have Twalla Sharp, who has some stories that he'd
like to add to this, and also Naka Dela Cruz
who continues to join us in the studio telling her
time in the business. It's later with mo Kelly caf
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I Am six forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Forty as we continue our conversation about me too in
the music industry. I have Nautica de la Cruz over
thirty years in radio and has a lot of stories
that she's going to have to take to the grave
with her because the threats of violence are real.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And that's an overriding point.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
And it was another point I was making where just
because you see a picture of someone at a party,
it doesn't mean they went to the after party. I'll
give you just a perfect example with me and then
Twala's going to take over. There are pictures of me
and Carmen Electra and also downtown Julie Brown, who was
taken at the Playboy Mansion.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It was for an album release party.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Hugh Hefner was there, the Playboy Bunnies were there, the
grotto was there for everyone to see.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
It was a bona fide Playboy Mansion party.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
If it comes out, And there have been a lot
of allegations about Hugh Hefner, for example, trying to make
this false comparison to Diddy.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But you know, someone could say Hey, mo, I saw.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
This picture of you and so and so and so
and so at a Hefner party.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Are you part of that as well?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And I try to make the point and not a committed,
beautifully last segment. There's the party, and then there's the
after party, and then there's the after after party. Because
I was at the party, there was Whitney Houston, Bobby Brown,
members of the Lakers, Robert or Paula Abdul common lecture,
all sorts of people. You know, famous people party with
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famous people. Not everyone's invited to the after after party.
Am I right to walk?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
No?
Speaker 8 (26:43):
Absolutely. There's a young lady who who is an ex
horn star, who was under the employ of Diddy, who
was being groomed and trafficked, and she is going now
on record to talk about the people that she saw
at his parties, people from Diana ross Al Sharpton, Donald Trump,
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on and on and on, and everyone knows. Back in
the day, just for the lay people, those of us
in the music industry, especially music radio, for responsible for
playing these records and making these artists happen. Where at
my station here on the West Coast, we were responsible
for blowing the entire bad boy roster out of the water.
(27:26):
Every single did, every single did, he saw every single artist,
every single Everything started at our station. Period. Yes we
would get invitations to the parties, and yes we go
because it's like, yo, you're going to the party. We
were not going knowing that there were after after parties.
Those were for the individuals who were taken into the
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confidence and know. But anytime I went to a party,
you saw anyone because everyone wanted to be a part
of the scene. I went to one party. It was
a white party. It was at a hot it was
it was everyone has to dress and white. Everyone has address.
I don't want, no.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I don't want I don't want Mark Rodner to fill
on company.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
No, no, this is yes, this is where everyone had
to dress in white. Part of the ambions. And I'm
there chilling for a long while. And I was there
with the record rep. And as I was getting ready
to leave, he said, hold on to you, hold on.
The party is just about to start and it's getting late.
And I'm like, man, I got to be up early
in the morning, I got to get to the station,
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you know all this. And I see two little mini busses,
two little shuttle busses roll up and some scantily clad
talent starts rolling off the buses. They're coming into the party,
and I'm like, it's past midnight, this is going on
maybe one am, Like what is happening. I'm like, you
know what, I'm not even going to play myself because
(28:49):
at the time I was married, and I said, this
is the part where I say.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Bye, but you know that there's going to be after
party shenanigans. And I want to make the distinction between
after party shenanigans and criminal behavior.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Yes, there are after party shenanigans, and then there's that
point in time, and I know firsthand when I go
back to individuals and I get the recap, like, hey,
I know you stayed what happened, and it is just
bucking nakedness. A lot of individuals that you know tea
stayed in and played a role in a lot of
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the sexual activities. There was all types of things that
were unsavory happening at these parties. And I have been
to some parties myself where I've seen some things happen.
I've actually seen individuals that we all know by name,
individuals we know who were married at the time engaging
with talent at a party, and I said to myself, Wow,
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there are a lot of stories.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I can't tell. A lot of stories you can tell.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
You will not put these individuals' names in the news
like that, but I'm telling you I've seen it firsthand.
There is all of the stories that you will see
accusing any number of entertainers from being in Diddy's company.
But it is when you get to these very very
egregious stories, these horrific stories. There's there's a former security
(30:08):
guard for Sean Combs right now who is on on
camera this this is this is He's on camera talking
about how he witnessed a young Usher Raymond leaving a
Diddy party and he had to be taken to the
hospital because of something that happened.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I I gotta jump in there.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
People may not know when he says Usher Raymond, he
was originally known Usher Raymond.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Now he's just known as Usher Usher. Yes.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
And and when I saw that video to day, he's
on Key's like, look, there's so many stories I can
tell you about when I worked for Diddy and why
I got out of the music industry. Has just started,
you know, being a security guard for businessmen and things
like that because the music industry and being around Sean
Colmes and that crew, it was horrible the things that
I saw. Everyone is in bolded now thanks to Cassie
(30:58):
and her stance. Everyone is in bold and everyone is
taking their stands and having their say because they feel
safety in numbers. Jaguar Right, when she's coming out now
talking and now she's bringing jay Z into the loop,
I'm like, miss Right, please protect yourself because these individuals
are not removed from the street. They are still one
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foot in the street and have access at the snap
of a finger to making something happen. That is I
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Nauka.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Prayers in the air for someone like that Jaguaright, who
is literally laying everyone out.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I don't think people understand when we say one foot
in the street. These are individuals who can make a
phone call and green light the murder of someone. And
I mentioned Tupac. There was a call they talk about
it now. There was a call where they said, is
it a go on him for what he did against
the Crypston in the club? He was greenlit. Someone made
(31:58):
a call and smallorious Big was green lit, and you
were that was right outside your station.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
It's about yeah, right down the street, walking distance, walking distance.
This is how easy individuals can be touched. And people
who think you can just walk around free. There's a
reason why we do not put names and faces to
the stories that we were telling. We are giving you
(32:26):
the lawn order version of these stories.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Right, changing the names to protect the guilty.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Yes, and because there are individuals who are still very connected.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The corollary to all this, pardon me for butting into
the question, is what role do all of you believe
compromise and potential blackmail plays in this whole scenario.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Well, everyone at a certain level has videos on every
one exactly right, someone speaking like, for example, there are
people that you're not going to hear anything from because
probably they're implicated somewhere along the way.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
And I'm guessing a lot of household names are are
Oh yes, we're talking.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
If you see the discussions online of like why is
so and so so quiet?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Probably for a damn good reason, and so how do
you see this playing out?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Then more people going to be arrested, more people going
to be implicated, more people are going to be accused
of and we try to tell people a long time ago,
they were going to be more and more people coming
out against Diddy.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Now this is up to like one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
We said they were going to be other artists who
are going to be implicated because of her knowledge of
the music industry.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Now you get names like Garth Brooks. There are going
to be more.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And I don't understand why people keep thinking we don't
know what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
We've seen it, we've lived it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I'm telling you there will be other big names that
you know who are going to be implicated, who are
going to be sued, who are going to be criminally charged.
This is just the first of many. They didn't believe
us last time, Maybe believe us this time. Hey, if
I am six forty were alive everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
We're watching everything, so you can watch your sanity. K
f I and KOST HD two
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Los Angeles, Orange County live everywhere on the ear radio
It's letter with Mo Kelly camf I am six forty.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. But I don't
know about you. I am really ready for this weekend.
There's a lot going on for me, and I suspect
that there's a lot going on for you. We got
some real important conversations we got to have tonight. We
have a new LAPD police chief, well except for the
(00:44):
city council has to vote on him, but we know
that that's a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's a formality.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Jim McDonald, who I was talking to you about a
few weeks ago, who I ran into. He was a
featured guest at the Long Beach Rotary Club and I
was there with my sister who's a member, and i'll
call him Chief McDonald. Chief McDonald and I spoke for
good fifteen to twenty minutes before the event and also
(01:11):
after the event, just chopping it up talking about the LAPD,
telling me about what he thought about law enforcement, its responsibilities,
policing in America. He gave a very informative speech that
day talking about how policing needed to evolve.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It was actually on nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I remember because his message was about nine to eleven
and policing in a post nine to eleven world.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think he is the right guy for this time,
for this city.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Now, the flip side of it is every police chief
is pretty much popular day one, or at least upon
the announcement, and then life happens, crime happens, situations happened,
and then he will be scrutinized differently. Understand that completely.
I'm just saying, and I'll get into it more next segment.
Will listen to some of his speech today. I think
(02:06):
he's a good dude. I set up with Tim Conway Junior,
and I think that he is sincere in what he
wants to do and what I mean by that. You
hear it in his speech, which we'll play next segment.
But I think he's sincere and for the citic that
I usually am, I didn't get those same vibes with him,
But we'll see, and we'll talk about it more later
(02:27):
this evening. And speaking of some of the things that
we'll be talking about, we're going to get into a
little bit more of the allegations surrounding Garth Brooks. I
managed to speak with one of my friends who's one
degree of separation from Garth Brooks, not the other.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So I have some initial thoughts.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And also we're going to bring in Natica Dela Cruz,
who has worked in this business as long as I have,
if not longer, as long as Tuala has in radio.
She's been in radio I don't know, for the better
part of thirty years and has met and dealt with
just about every person in this business. And it's I
think it would be a misstep on my part. We'd
(03:07):
be remiss if we did not include her voice in
this conversation talking about Diddy specifically, the me Too movement
and the music industry in a general sense. And I
know she has plenty of anecdotes to add and we're
going to spend a little bit of time on that.
Also we have the run a report, very very popular segment. No,
(03:29):
I mean that seriously. The numbers do bear it out
really well.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It's one of the few things you don't know, Mark,
Happy Friday. You detected a hint of sarcasm there.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I know you wouldn't dare, so I always give you
the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I hope you know that.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Why, thank you, thank you, and the subject for the
run of report tonight is to night.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
We're going to talk about joker fully uh d. That's
the French pronunciation. I get a sense that you didn't.
I love it, but I'll wait for you to tell us. Well,
I was never great at French. I had to take
it a couple different times just to get through it.
So please forgive my poor French pronunciation. No hints there.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And also we have i'll say, a lead in a
warm up a kickoff of the Halloween month. We actually
have the cities which have the most horror movie filming
locations in America. And you know, if we're talking about it,
California has something to do with it. And that's a
perfect lead in to name that movie called Classic Tonight,
(04:36):
and it will be horror movies, psychological thriller movies, slasher movies, all.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
The things which make Halloween great.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And also I always want to test Mark Ronner because
he is a student and at this point a professor
of the genre.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh, I can't wait. I'm excited to see what you picked.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, I'm trying to see if there's some that I
think that you should know but don't readily recognize, not
try to stump you, but I'm not trying to be
too obscure. There are some movie clips which are I think,
relatively easy if you're listening and paying attention, and there
are some which if you're not a horror aficionado, you
may not recognize.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I misjudged a couple of times I've hosted when it
was movie night. I figured that I was making the
questions too easy and people didn't know stuff that I figured, like,
everybody like lad Runner, so it gets a crapshoot.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It really is, it really is.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And last week we had one of the clips, which
was Action Jackson, and in my mind, I said, no
one is going to get this. Even if you've seen
the movie, you're not gonna get it. The only way
is if you guessed because you heard Carl Weather's voice.
And then we talked to the one person who knew
it within the first five words.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, you had a ringer calling in on that one.
I was astonished at this, and I didn't know it either.
People may not know people are contestants. They really don't know.
And I am being honest. I have a list the
ten clips. They asked for number seven. I played number seven.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm not changing you up relative to who I think
the caller is or what I think he or she
may know. It's very genuine, it's very truthful. Okay, we
let you cheat, but I'm not trying to set you
up or try to redirect the show to, you know,
accommodate certain callers.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So it's just like one of those fifties quiz shows
where no, no, you pipe the right answer to the
person you want to win.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's not like I'm in someone's ear whisperings and tell
them like it.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Is get out. That's illegal. No, we're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But we are giving away more passes to the pre
Halloween soire on October thirtieth here at the Honda Studios
at KFI and iHeartRadio. Yeah, it's a big to do,
and I mean this. We're not going to publicize this.
We're not going to promote this. You're not going to
see it on the website, and that is intentional. We
(06:57):
want to make sure that the people were coming to
the party really want to come to the party. We
want to make sure that the people who will be
at the party are the people who've been listening to
the show and know the show and want to be
part of this celebration. So it's we can fill up
the room. It's not a problem. It's just who is
going to be in the room. It's going to be
filling it up, that is most important. We're gonna have
(07:21):
swag that were given away. We're gonna have mugs, We're
gonna have key chains, We're gonna have t shirts. You're
gonna be in costumes. We're gonna be having a good time.
Some of us might even be drunk, not me because
I have to be on the radio, but there will
be libations there. I can't speak for anyone else except
for to Walk because he doesn't drink. Now, as far
as Stephani and Mark will take it as it goes.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Sorry, I have a news professional. I'll have you know.
I h That's all I'm gonna say. Fact right, I
haven't drunk. One has nothing to do with the other.
The words came out of my mouth. I realized, you know,
that could go either way. That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
When we come back, we're going to talk more about
Jim McDonald and his recent appointment as LAPD's next chief.
I am six forty. It's later with Mo Kelly. We're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
We will have a new police chief for LAPD, Jim McDonald.
You may know that he was former La County sheriff.
He was a former police chief for Long Beach and
longtime member of LAPD ranks working his way up. And
I feel very good about this pick by Mayor Karen Bass.
For all the discussions that we've had about crime here
(08:40):
in the city and also here in the county. You
can't talk about crime and just the city. I understand
the chief is for LAPD and LAPD is for La
City and its unincorporated areas, but it works hand in
hand with LA County and I feel comfortable and confident
about this pick Jim McDonald. And I've only had the
(09:00):
opportunity to meet a few of the previous chiefs or
dialogue with them, Bernard Parks, Willie Williams, and there was one.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Other I think a cross paths with Charlie Beck. But
that's about it.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's an impossible job, of course, and you're never more
popular than when you first take the job, and then
controversy and crime will happen, and it chips away at
that popularity. But going in, I think this is a
very strong pick someone For all the talk of you
may want an outsider to come in from a different city,
(09:39):
Oh it's Chief Bratton.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's what it was, Chief Bratton.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
For all the talk of outsider like Bratton or someone
else coming in from the outside and changing the police department,
I think someone with McDonald's experience in Los Angeles County
red large is beneficial and probably very helpful in the
direction of LAPD. And here is what some of what
(10:04):
he had to say earlier today after Mayor Bass introduced him.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And the LAPD Academy forty three years ago. And I
pause when I say that because I just can't wrap
my head.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Around that that is a long time.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I love this city and I understand the modern day
challenges our officers face and trying to protect it. To
our LAPD officers, I thank you. You answer the call,
you perform your duties with dignity, and you hold each
other to the highest professional standards. Standing before you hit
today is a dream realized. It's a tremendous honor to
lead the men and women of the LAPD. We will
(10:38):
work hard to make sure that you are supported with
your work to be able to keep all Angelinos safe.
In simplest terms, my goals are to enhance public safety,
To grow our department back to full strength through a
solid recruitment and retention campaign. To strengthen public trust, the
foundation of all we do. To further develop community relationship
(11:00):
and chips and to be able to take that to
new levels. To ensure respectful and constitutional policing practices and
all that we do. And to prepare our organization in
our partner agencies for the many challenges that face us ahead.
As I prepare to take this role, I bring with
me a comprehensive understanding of public safety from law enforcement,
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academic and business perspectives. In the next five years, the
eyes of the world will be honest. Los Angeles will
host the World Cup, It will host the Olympic and
Paralympic Games, will host a Super.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Bowl and an NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Our department will and our city will be showcased, and
we will be prepared. What a great opportunity that is
for all of us in LA. I look forward forward
to working with Chief Choi, and again thank you, Chief Choice.
Probably the happiest guy here today, and I thank the
entire LAPD team for all all that's been done and
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all that we will do together to make Los Angeles
an even safer city and to make every member our
fire department proud of our organization. I know that Mayor
Bass is committed to making Los Angeles a safer city
each day, and we'll support our efforts, and I'm thankful
for that. The reason I'm here today is because I
believe in her commitment. We will face our challenges together.
(12:16):
To those considering a career in public safety, I say,
join us to build a safe for Los Angeles. This
is a time of great challenge, but a time of
tremendous opportunity.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yes, there will be some challenges, there will be some
obstacles in the near future. As he listed, you know,
you got the World Cup, you have the Olympics and Paralympics,
you have NBA All Star Game. Those are situations which
can be problematic for all sorts of reasons. And you
(12:48):
have the eyes of the country, if not the world,
on us, especially when you're talking about the Olympics and
the World Cup. I do not I don't know why
he came out of retirement again to do this, but
I think I suspect that he sincerely wants to see
a better Los Angeles for you and me. He didn't
(13:10):
have to do this, he doesn't need this, but he's
choosing to do it, And in my limited interaction with him,
he leaves me with a very good feeling. He did
promise to have an open line of communication with me,
so I hope to dialogue with him in the future
as we move along through these events and situations. And
as much as I talk about Metro, he probably will
(13:33):
have an outsized input and also impact on what happens
with Metro and how policing will evolve and change here
in the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So LA has some big.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Time events which are going to be here, and of
course you know that, but also the problems that we're
going through right now are big in and of themselves.
I don't know where he would to start. I don't
know all of his philosophies, but I do know he
did express to me he wanted to change the morale.
He wanted to change the perception of LAPD. He wanted
(14:12):
to get the Police Academy back up in its cadets
who wanted more people to seek out public service in
the form of law enforcement, and I think he might
be the right guy for that. I don't necessarily know
all the particulars the insides of what's going on with LAPD,
so I'm not going to overstate my connection to him,
(14:34):
but I do think that this is a major step
in the right direction, and I think it was a
fine choice by Mayor Bass And she and I may
disagree politically on a number of issues, but this is
something I think she made the right choice and got
the right person for the right time in this city.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
We want to talk about Garth Brooks, P Diddy, Jaguar Wright,
you may or may not know that name. Will introduce
you to her if you don't know her, Jay Z
and more, and we're going to do it from an
informed perspective.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
By now you should know that country music star Garth
Brooks has been accused of raping and battering a woman
who claims she worked as his hair stylist and makeup artist.
She has filed the suit under the pseudonym of Jane Rowe,
and she says that in the paperwork the lawsuit that
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Garth Brooks allegedly raped her in a hotel room during
a work trip where she felt trapped and alone with Brooks,
and I reached out to a couple of my friends,
one who had worked with him, toured with him, written
songs with him, and another who had worked more on
the periphery with him and his casual friends with him
and has known him for more than twenty years. One
(15:55):
person I was able to reach and have the conversation
with another I was not. But this is what was
told to me. And this is someone who actually listens
to the show. And the first thing he threw back
to me is like, MO, we don't know these people.
Something I always say, We don't know these people. In
other words, people that you may like their talent, you
may like how they sing, and they may have a
(16:19):
public persona which is very pristine, but you don't know them.
And there are people who have spouses that they don't
even know. They don't know what they're doing when they're
out on the road. So I say that to say,
I know the public persona of Garth Brooks, but I'm
looking at this within the context of the larger me
too moment of the music industry which is happening right now.
(16:39):
I don't put anything past anyone, but this is one
thing I will say before we move on. There are
reportedly text messages, and the text messages say whatever the
text messages say, and can tell a story which I
believe is inarguable on some level as far as the
other allegations of of sexual harassment and exposure of genitals,
(17:04):
or if there any type of depicts or things which
might have been sent. So I'm still taking a cautious
approach to that. But joining me in the studio right
now is not a Cadela Cruz, someone who's worked in
radio and music industry with the biggest names for at
least thirty years.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Is that fair? Yes? Correct?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Okay? And you are from New York.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You know a little something about the New York scene,
the New York hip hop scene.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You've probably interviewed Ditty how many times?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
About four, four or five times?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Okay, and you've been to a Diddy party.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
About about four of them especially, I think the last
one was in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay, what did you see? What did you notice? What
do you make at this moment.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
You know, this is kind of hard because at the
end of the day, if there's facts and receipts, that's
what people are going to look at, you know what
I mean. And you said something earlier, we don't know
these people. Yes, we don't live with them, we're not
married to them, we don't.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Sleep with them. So therefore we really truly don't know them.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
We know the surface level of everything, and everything done
in the dark always comes to the light regardless. But
I will say this that you know when you go
whether it's a Garth Brooks or a P. Diddy, when
you go to their concerts or you go to their
parties or their after parties, there's always something that's going
to be a consequence. And I remember one time I
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was in Vegas and I went to a white party
in Vegas and the Didty Party, Yes, and there was
tons of celebrities, a big name celebrities that we know
that are still famous to this day now.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
I only stayed to show faced.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
You know, sometimes there were I've always was one of
those I'll show up.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
I'll tell my program director I showed up.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
But also as a radio personality, I would show up
because that would give me something to talk about that,
you know, that next day or Monday or so forth.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
And you know, you saw a lot of different things,
but you you.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
You saw things, but you were like, oh, that's what
seletelebrities do. You know, they kiss on the lips or
they're very touchy touchy or you know, not with me,
though not with me. But I will say that I
think everyone knows that the real party was always the
after party.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And I always want to make that distinction.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
If you see someone post a picture, here's a picture
of did he and Donald Trump? Or or did he
and someone else? I try to tell people, look, that's
the press portion. You know your people famous people, don't
famous people. They take pictures of famous people. The parties
that we're talking about, the freak offfs, those are the
after party, expelling that for people.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yes, those are the parties that start normally after one o'clock.
And if you you know, sometimes he would make an
announcement those that want to stay could stay.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Those who don't want to stay don't have to stay.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
But he but he's saying that with people understanding that
it was going to change exactly.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
And I think after one o'clock, you're pretty much done
and me, at least I turned into a pumpkin pumpkin spice.
But talking about something that you said about pictures, my
mother called me yesterday and she was asking me about
p Diddy and she.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Was like, did you ever go to any of his parties?
And I said yes. She was like, what, she goes,
you don't have any pictures with him? I said, oh yeah,
I said, I have a picture of me.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
And him on Instagram at Nauticadella cream right away, shameless plug.
My mom goes, no, please take it down, Take it down,
I said, Mom, I said, it's just me and him.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
He's not touching me. I said, you could see his
hand is barely touching me.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I said.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
He was a young pa didty at that time. I'm
sure the freaks had started back then, I said, but
you know it was a dinner party. He was promoting
some sort of album. But my mom doesn't want me
to be affiliated. She doesn't want even a picture of
me and him, because I you know, I'm a respectable woman.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Little Craig great, but I'm respectable.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
How many times have you interview to him about four
What did you notice about his demeanor or what was
possibly how he'd address other people when the.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Okay, So the first two times I interviewed him, he was,
you know, barely come. He was coming up, you know
what I mean. And so he was over talking promoting
a lot, you know, talking about the producers and the
album and you know, get ready.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Okay. The third time I interviewed him, he was a
little bit more calm.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
The fourth time I interviewed him, it was like he
didn't even want to be in the studio, like, you know, okay,
like is this done?
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Is this interview done?
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Like?
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Did you ever witness any untoward behavior towards staff women
maybe in his employ anything of that nature.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No, you know what.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
He would always come with two guys. I knew one
was a bodyguard. I don't know who the I can't
remember who the other one was. But he was never around.
There was never females around.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
It was just him.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
But he always wanted to the last two times, is like,
come on, let's get this interview over with.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Let's go arrogant, yes a little.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
You know, when he first came out, he was hungry
for those for those that might know this, I would say,
my new York Crew.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
They called him puff for a reason. It wasn't because
of the way his lip looks.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
It's because he would puff him pout if he didn't
get his way. That's how he ended up with the
name Puffy, you know's that's what you know people were
saying in the streets. But you know, when he was first,
first coming up, he was hungry.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
He wanted to promote.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
He wanted to promote Biggie's album, and he wanted to
promote all the bad boy artists, Mason so forth.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
But you know, after that he.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Got a little big and you know, when you start
making you know, money, your god, it's kind of like,
oh I'm invisible now, like nothing matters, Like you're not important.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
You're just a peasant to me.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I I noticed when I worked in the business, I
saw a lot of things that weren't for public consumption.
I heard a lot of things and knew a lot
of things which were not meant to be repeated. Even
to this day, there's certain stories that I'm not going
to tell because I know that there could be consequences
for me and my family. We were talking off the air,
(23:01):
and there are stories that you know that you can't
tell correct, And I know that there are other stories
that other people probably were scared of telling. And I
made the point that at least in the music industry,
the threat of violence was real. It wasn't about worried
about their careers per se, it was about their lives
and their families.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I agree absolutely.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
I I don't know if you follow Jaguar Wright, but
I fear for her because she's just on Piers Morgan.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Oh, yes, I'm correct.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
I've been going through this rabbit hole and just watching
every single Twitter I'm not Twitter, I'm sorry, TikTok video
and she's she says a lot of stuff I already knew,
and I'm like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
In her last interview, just for people to know, she said, quote,
for four years, I've been screaming not just Diddy, but
Diddy and jay Z are monsters, and the victim making
machine kept going on. She has had a long and
consistent refrain about Diddy and jay Z being basically one
in the same. In other words, if you dig deep enough,
she's insinuating with jay Z, you will find the same
(24:04):
stuff as with Diddy, if not worse.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
And you know the thing about Jaguar is she is
not only speaking the truth. Nobody is after her. She
has facts, received, texts, messages, videos, you name it.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
She is untouchable right now.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
But I do fear for her just walking in the
streets of New York or wherever she lives. I know
she's sometimes she can be bi coastal, but I fear
for her.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
People forget Tupac was shot and killed. Correct, Theori's big
was shot and killed. Those P Diddy's artists. There've been
a number jam Master Jay. There's always been a criminal element,
either within the music industry or just on the periphery.
There's always been a drug element within or just on
(24:48):
the periphery of the music industry.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
They went hand in hand.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
The violence was real, and I don't understand why people
are still saying why didn't so and so come forward
because she was afraid of getting killed. When we come back,
we have Twalla Sharp, who has some stories that he'd
like to add to this, and also Naka Dela Cruz
who continues to join us in the studio telling her
time in the business. It's later with mo Kelly caf
(25:13):
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Speaker 4 (25:16):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Forty as we continue our conversation about me too in
the music industry. I have Nautica de la Cruz over
thirty years in radio and has a lot of stories
that she's going to have to take to the grave
with her because the threats of violence are real.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And that's an overriding point.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
And it was another point I was making where just
because you see a picture of someone at a party,
it doesn't mean they went to the after party. I'll
give you just a perfect example with me and then
Twala's going to take over. There are pictures of me
and Carmen Electra and also downtown Julie Brown, who was
taken at the Playboy Mansion.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It was for an album release party.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Hugh Hefner was there, the Playboy Bunnies were there, the
grotto was there for everyone to see.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
It was a bona fide Playboy Mansion party.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
If it comes out, And there have been a lot
of allegations about Hugh Hefner, for example, trying to make
this false comparison to Diddy.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But you know, someone could say Hey, mo, I saw.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
This picture of you and so and so and so
and so at a Hefner party.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Are you part of that as well?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And I try to make the point and not a committed,
beautifully last segment. There's the party, and then there's the
after party, and then there's the after after party. Because
I was at the party, there was Whitney Houston, Bobby Brown,
members of the Lakers, Robert or Paula Abdul common lecture,
all sorts of people. You know, famous people party with
(26:39):
famous people. Not everyone's invited to the after after party.
Am I right to walk?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
No?
Speaker 8 (26:43):
Absolutely. There's a young lady who who is an ex
horn star, who was under the employ of Diddy, who
was being groomed and trafficked, and she is going now
on record to talk about the people that she saw
at his parties, people from Diana ross Al Sharpton, Donald Trump,
(27:05):
on and on and on, and everyone knows. Back in
the day, just for the lay people, those of us
in the music industry, especially music radio, for responsible for
playing these records and making these artists happen. Where at
my station here on the West Coast, we were responsible
for blowing the entire bad boy roster out of the water.
(27:26):
Every single did, every single did, he saw every single artist,
every single Everything started at our station. Period. Yes we
would get invitations to the parties, and yes we go
because it's like, yo, you're going to the party. We
were not going knowing that there were after after parties.
Those were for the individuals who were taken into the
(27:46):
confidence and know. But anytime I went to a party,
you saw anyone because everyone wanted to be a part
of the scene. I went to one party. It was
a white party. It was at a hot it was
it was everyone has to dress and white. Everyone has address.
I don't want, no.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I don't want I don't want Mark Rodner to fill
on company.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
No, no, this is yes, this is where everyone had
to dress in white. Part of the ambions. And I'm
there chilling for a long while. And I was there
with the record rep. And as I was getting ready
to leave, he said, hold on to you, hold on.
The party is just about to start and it's getting late.
And I'm like, man, I got to be up early
in the morning, I got to get to the station,
(28:27):
you know all this. And I see two little mini busses,
two little shuttle busses roll up and some scantily clad
talent starts rolling off the buses. They're coming into the party,
and I'm like, it's past midnight, this is going on
maybe one am, Like what is happening. I'm like, you
know what, I'm not even going to play myself because
(28:49):
at the time I was married, and I said, this
is the part where I say.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Bye, but you know that there's going to be after
party shenanigans. And I want to make the distinction between
after party shenanigans and criminal behavior.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Yes, there are after party shenanigans, and then there's that
point in time, and I know firsthand when I go
back to individuals and I get the recap, like, hey,
I know you stayed what happened, and it is just
bucking nakedness. A lot of individuals that you know tea
stayed in and played a role in a lot of
(29:22):
the sexual activities. There was all types of things that
were unsavory happening at these parties. And I have been
to some parties myself where I've seen some things happen.
I've actually seen individuals that we all know by name,
individuals we know who were married at the time engaging
with talent at a party, and I said to myself, Wow,
(29:43):
there are a lot of stories.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I can't tell. A lot of stories you can tell.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
You will not put these individuals' names in the news
like that, but I'm telling you I've seen it firsthand.
There is all of the stories that you will see
accusing any number of entertainers from being in Diddy's company.
But it is when you get to these very very
egregious stories, these horrific stories. There's there's a former security
(30:08):
guard for Sean Combs right now who is on on
camera this this is this is He's on camera talking
about how he witnessed a young Usher Raymond leaving a
Diddy party and he had to be taken to the
hospital because of something that happened.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I I gotta jump in there.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
People may not know when he says Usher Raymond, he
was originally known Usher Raymond.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Now he's just known as Usher Usher. Yes.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
And and when I saw that video to day, he's
on Key's like, look, there's so many stories I can
tell you about when I worked for Diddy and why
I got out of the music industry. Has just started,
you know, being a security guard for businessmen and things
like that because the music industry and being around Sean
Colmes and that crew, it was horrible the things that
I saw. Everyone is in bolded now thanks to Cassie
(30:58):
and her stance. Everyone is in bold and everyone is
taking their stands and having their say because they feel
safety in numbers. Jaguar Right, when she's coming out now
talking and now she's bringing jay Z into the loop,
I'm like, miss Right, please protect yourself because these individuals
are not removed from the street. They are still one
(31:21):
foot in the street and have access at the snap
of a finger to making something happen. That is I
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Nauka.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Prayers in the air for someone like that Jaguaright, who
is literally laying everyone out.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I don't think people understand when we say one foot
in the street. These are individuals who can make a
phone call and green light the murder of someone. And
I mentioned Tupac. There was a call they talk about
it now. There was a call where they said, is
it a go on him for what he did against
the Crypston in the club? He was greenlit. Someone made
(31:58):
a call and smallorious Big was green lit, and you
were that was right outside your station.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
It's about yeah, right down the street, walking distance, walking distance.
This is how easy individuals can be touched. And people
who think you can just walk around free. There's a
reason why we do not put names and faces to
the stories that we were telling. We are giving you
(32:26):
the lawn order version of these stories.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Right, changing the names to protect the guilty.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Yes, and because there are individuals who are still very connected.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The corollary to all this, pardon me for butting into
the question, is what role do all of you believe
compromise and potential blackmail plays in this whole scenario.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Well, everyone at a certain level has videos on every
one exactly right, someone speaking like, for example, there are
people that you're not going to hear anything from because
probably they're implicated somewhere along the way.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
And I'm guessing a lot of household names are are
Oh yes, we're talking.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
If you see the discussions online of like why is
so and so so quiet?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Probably for a damn good reason, and so how do
you see this playing out?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Then more people going to be arrested, more people going
to be implicated, more people are going to be accused
of and we try to tell people a long time ago,
they were going to be more and more people coming
out against Diddy.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Now this is up to like one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
We said they were going to be other artists who
are going to be implicated because of her knowledge of
the music industry.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Now you get names like Garth Brooks. There are going
to be more.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And I don't understand why people keep thinking we don't
know what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
We've seen it, we've lived it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I'm telling you there will be other big names that
you know who are going to be implicated, who are
going to be sued, who are going to be criminally charged.
This is just the first of many. They didn't believe
us last time, Maybe believe us this time. Hey, if
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