October 18, 2024 • 39 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A breakdown of the new Android "Theft Protection" feature AND the new, cutting edge, “emotion-sensing eyewear” that can analyze your facial expressions and track your physical activity on ‘Tech Thursday’ with regular guest contributor; (author, podcast host, and technology pundit) Marsha Collier…PLUS – Thoughts on the firing of 20-30 Meta staffers due to their misuse of meal stipends - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, yeah, KFI, mister bo Kelly, We're live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app and it's Tech Thursday, and that means
we get to talk to Marsha Collier who had left us,
left the country, so I'm told, and I'm surprised she
did come back, but I'm glad she came back.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Marshall, car was good to see you. Where'd you go?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I went to England to visit my family. And I
say England because I spent a couple of days in
London because my daughter was with me.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Kind of have to do that.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
It was my uncle's ninety eighth birthday. Oh what a blessing,
and he was all dressed up in a gorgeous suit
and tie and cuff links. We went out to a
restaurant for dinner. It was spectacular and he mentally challenged me.
And I've just decided that if God forbid, anything happens
to me bad in the head as I get older,
(00:53):
I want to be in a home over there.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
That's gonna be your retirement community.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
I figured it out.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, Well, we missed you, but glad to have you back.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
As an Android owner, a pixel Phone owner, I know
that I can pretty much depend on a new operating
system just about each October. It used to coincide when
they would release the latest version of the pixel phone,
but they moved at the pixel Phone date. Well, they
debuted it, but you couldn't get it for like another
forty five days. But Android fifteen is out. I don't
(01:27):
even know what the name for it is. I don't
know if they still name them anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I'm sorry, I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
But in my new book Android Smartphones for Seniors for Dummies,
which comes out December fifth, available for pre order on Amazon.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
It's in there all right.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I never remember what I write in a book because
when you see my books, there's so much information that
I have.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
To flip back to reference the stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So you know, that's why there's a great index so
you can find things, because it's filled with stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I downloaded Android fifteen what is today Thursday? I did
it on Tuesday too, and I didn't have a chance
to really play with it yet, but I know some
of the highlights and some of the new features.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Have you had much chance to work with it.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Well, I obviously when I wrote the book, I had
a bunch of phones and one of them was a
Pixel Pro seven, which I was on the beta testing
for Android fifteen.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Explain it for folks who may not know what beta
testing is.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
That means they need some people to try out operating
systems to see where the failures are, to see where
the good things are, to find out oops.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
You do that, you lock up your phone.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So it's not something you definitely want to try on
your daily driver, and you need to have a little
bit of technical knowledge to get out of some messes
that you do get in. But I had it on
this phone and I was watching it happen, and it's
a new operating system, it's got new features. It's not
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going to change your life, just like I hate to
break it to your iPhone folks, The new iPhone not
going to change your life.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So these were maybe incremental upgrades, not a revolutionary or
a material upgrade.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, the beta test came in different downloads, like they'd
download one thing and then if something was broken with that,
they'd fix it in the next download and the next download,
so it went several downloads, and things are incremental for example.
It's not out right now, but there will be something
in Android fifteen which will allow you to set your
(03:44):
phone so that you can plug it in all night
and will stop charging at eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Stop or slow down Stop. What would be the advantage
of that, because I'd like to keep my iPhone charge
well it. But when you have a battery a lithium,
a lithium I own battery in a phone and you
charge it to one hundred or you let it go
down below twenty, there's damage to the battery. Yes, So
(04:17):
to extend the life of a battery, you don't have
to turn it on. If you want to charge to
one hundred, you can, but you will have the option
to stop it at eighty and then have it, let's
say at five am in the morning finish charging.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh okay, we'll finish charging.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I do know that, and I know that when
I get a new phone, that battery has about a
year and a half two years before it starts to degrade.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That I noticed it at least.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And you'll find when you start stopping at eighty percent.
Because other brands have phones already do this, that was
in their own software overlay, that they will last a
lot longer, and the batteries just they don't deterar, right,
because these are expensive little devices. We need them, we
(05:04):
use them, we get upgrades. And I mean, what now,
there's a six to seven year upgrade period with each
Android phone.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
And how likely are you to keep that same phone
for six or seven years?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I have, I should say, actively.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Using, actively using. You know, I still have a couple
old ones that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I keep my old ones, but I'm not I may
use them as a spare camera for security purpose.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, I've got a spare camera phone. I have got
a home entertainment phone, gotcha, that has all those apps
on it because I don't want to take up space
and what I'm carrying around because I Am not going
to stop anywhere and watch Big Bang Theory. And I
have another one smart home as all my smart home stuff.
(05:54):
The smart home one also has all my financial stuff
on it.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Those apps. I will not put on a phone that
I'm carrying around. It's just not safe.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Speaking of not saying, very quickly, before we go to break,
let's talk about this new feature called theft protection on
Android fifteen. If I have it right, the phone will
sense if if someone is like stolen your phone and
yanked it out of your hand and starts running down
the street. Yes, supposedly suppose it, right, Not that I
want to try it to find out.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Well, we were trying it downstairs and obviously we don't
run fast enough.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You didn't trigger it, no, or the.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Wi Fi wasn't working, we didn't have a signal. You know,
there's all that technically what's supposed to happen. And also
they're still sending down incremental downloads of Android fifteen, so
you may get part of it and may not get
all of it.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
But that's basically what Mo said. Some you're on your phone, dout.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Not payg attention, right.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Someone yanks it out of your hand, starts running with it.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Then it uses the gyro scope, it uses your location,
It uses all these methods AI no doubt to lock
the phone.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's almost like crash detection for your phone.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Right, And crash detection is another one of the new features. Now,
I'm not going to go crash my car to test it, but.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
But if you should, your phone will let you know
that it's you've crashed your car and call emergency service.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Well, I can tell you that on Star did that.
So I can't.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
But this is Star per month, right.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
But what I'm saying is I know it can be done.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Becausej yeah, so on Star did it. Now, if you
want to go where you need to go to find
all these really cool Google things on a pixel phone,
you go to settings. You know how to do that, right,
you press a little cog thing. Google is an actual
category now and it will be in a lot of
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Android phones. Then all services. Then you'll see theft protection,
theft detection lock.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Oh, and you can lock it now.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Once you turn it on, you have to thumbprint or
something to get out of it, you know, thumb print
or user and that's it. If somebody forcefully takes your
phone from your hand and runs away, now not only
do they have that, but they have a lot of
other things they have.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Uh, we got unknown tracker alerts. I'm just noticing, Oh.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
My god, the unknown tracker alert.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
My husband had a tracker with me and it kept
beeping and beeping, and my phone keeps going, there's a
tracker following there's a tracker following you. And in my book,
you're going to be able to learn how to identify
whose tracker it is.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh I can't wait. I need an advance copy.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
You can have one as soon as I get them.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
All right, It's Later with mo Keller.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
We're talking with Marshall Collier, who's back from England on
this Tech Thursday. KFIM six forty WeLive everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
KFI O Kelly, We're live everywhere on this Tech Thursday
and on the iHeartRadio App. Marshall Collier joins us in studio.
She's back from across the pond. Marshall, tell me something
about these past keys. I'm hearing that terminology all the time.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Paskeys are you know?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I'm gonna agree with all of you because I'm not
going to fake knowing something and just gaslight all you.
Paskeys come in so many different flavors and so many
different ways. There's one website that may want you to
download some keys for you to keep somewhere safely.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I think that's face.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's not like a version of a pass word, but
not necessarily a word.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
But it's a key. Now.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
First, first I thought that had to do with like
a UBI key. With a Ubie key is a thing
that you plug into your USB port and that is
the lock for all your websites. The only problem is
I never used it because I knew for sure I
was going to lose.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It just period. I knew it.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I didn't know how many I would need, but I
would definitely lose it. So a lot of times, like
with Chrome, you can do the thumb print to get
in and out, and also on your phone when you
put one of these settings that we were just talking about,
like theft protection, once you've turned it on, in order
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to turn it off, you have to put your fingerprint
down to prove that it's you turning off the theft protection.
So pass keys right now are confusing. They're run by
so many different companies and I don't like that because
you know, that goes back to the days where you
come to a new website and it says sign in
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with Google, sign in with Instagram, and realize that every
time you're signing in with one of those websites, they
have the right to all the information that you've got
on those websites. So scary thought, just you know, so
I just stopped, Dude, I think I did it once
(11:22):
until I realized. But what to me is even more
scary is AI that's coming out mo and we're going
to have it for the holidays.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's going to scare the heck out of you.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
There's a new smart glasses that looks at you inward
while you're looking out from them.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Wait a minute, say that again, Say that again.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Okay, they look here. Quote.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
They are ones that peer inward at you rather than outward,
so you can see out the glasses right, But the
glasses are watching you. They're called Sense and they have
a bunch of sensors in them that monitor your facial
movements in real time to get your emotional state.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
What do I get to What do I get for that?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
What?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
What can it do for me? Once it figures out
I'm angry or am I'm sad?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Well, and it can also pick up subtle movements that
occur when people make expressions like smiling, frowning, something like that.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
It can watch what you're eating.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
To see if you're sticking to your diet and let
you know how many calories.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Now again they're called this.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Sounds like another spouse monitoring whatever I do. Who am
I smiling at? Who am I talking to what did
you eat for lunch?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Two?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Nightly tip the waiters when you leave.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Anyway, So these are coming out and the CEO of
the company was the guy who was in charge of
snap the spectacles of Snapchat.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
That was his project.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
So the old goal for these glasses is mental health
and dietary management. Now where the data goes, we don't
really hear about that. But tracking your food consumption, I'm
thinking that that's not a good thing if they sell
it to your insurance company, if you're the.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Only reason they would track that data is if they
could use that data or sell that data.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Well.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Also, it has a single outward facing camera that can
be used to snap pictures of the food you're eating.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I guess that's so that's useful in this world war,
or to post our meals.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Or if you eat too quickly based on the detection
of choose per second.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Oh damn, just let me enjoy my meal.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
This is coming. I think it's in November, which is
coming couple weeks, coming too soon.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But it's called Sense Glasses by a company called m Tech.
And when I go to cees, I guarantee you I
will look at it. I can promise you. I won't
be bringing one home for us to play with.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
For me, all these new technological advances, For me, the
value is in the utility. How can I use it
in my life? Not not? Is it wow? Can it
do wonderful things? But what can it do for me?
Does it have any real usefulness in my life?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
That doesn't wasn't it Marshall McLuhan who named utles?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Okayles are a unit of measurement. You pay blank amount
for this? How much utility you get out of that?
You break those into units and you can figure out
a cost basis if it's worth it to you to
pay it. Do you get all the utiles the utility
you need out of something? And that's an old theory.
(15:10):
It's been around for a while, and I think more
and more we're going to have to think about it,
because real fast, I got to tell you about this.
Gotta have this comes out November seventh from Casio.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I used to love Casio, from the keyboards to their watches.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I got something even better for.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Caso's Casio's back and look what they're making.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
They look like gribils tribles. Okay, start trek triples close enough.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
They do.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Actually, they look like guinea pigs and it's a new
hypoallergenic robot pet. They've been demonstrating them in Japan and
the slogan is always by your side.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Okay, let's go back to the utility discussion.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
What do they do or they just do they sense
your emotions and know when you're saying and come saddle
up next to you or something.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, funny, Yeah they do, Yeah, they do it.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
It's really strange.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
It doesn't really walk and instead wiggles in place depending
on the interaction you're having with it when you open
the box. It's just a baby and it learns from you.
It's I know, they're selling them for roughly four hundred
dollars a device in Japan.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Let me guess and attracts all this data and they
sells it.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Well.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I don't know yet, but I think you can build
a deeper bond with an owner through voice and gesture
based recognition software. Trust is apparently earned with the toy,
and it takes a few months for it to fully
develop into a strange bunch of affection and emotion. It
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will also negative emotions if you treat it negatively, which
is kind of ominous. Yeah, scary, it's awfully cute. Around
day fifty, owners can fully ex their moflin to be
fully matured and offer unique cooing noises and wriggling movements
from a range of four million different combinations.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Can we just go back to Baby Alive? Do you
remember Baby Alive?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
The one that pooped in Pea?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yes, when life was much simpler, wasn't that simple? My
sister had a baby alive.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I didn't have one. I just wasn't.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
You had feed it and it would crap like an
hour later or something.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Really yeah, so cool it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Was for nineteen seventy three. Yes, it was very cool
in my day.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
It was a chatty Kathy doll.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Chatty Kathy, yeah, which you could pull the string.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
In the back.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
By the way, I have two of those going up
for sale on eBay. You in box, never been played with,
but yeah, this is today's chatty Kathy. Problem is only
has a five hour battery life. But you said it
on its little thing and it will sit in a
bed like cradle and recharge.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So you could charge it like overnight.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yes you could.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
And they're palm sized gerbils and it's way more than
a Ferby.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Ferbies were scary, weren't they.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, yeah, I have a problem with mechanical furry things.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Okay, well we have a mechanical dog from Japan, right,
bring them in from Japan. Yes, we should bring Iebow
in one week. We kind of turned Ibo off once
they wanted to charge three hundred dollars a year for
the Wi Fi.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh no, that turns in like to like a veterinary.
Veterinarian costs well.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Then it doesn't learn.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Well, you know, it's been twelve I think we're running
out of time.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yes, look at time is Later with Mo Kelly. It's
always good to see you, Marcia Carty.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
See you next week.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Absolutely, we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And Facebook is still a thing. When you talk about meta,
that's inclusive of what's appened Instagram, But Facebook, the flagship
of meta, is still really important in a variety of
ways in our social media lives. But if you think
about what goes on behind the scenes, what it's like
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to work at Meta, I'm not so sure that I
would ever want to work for Mark Zuckerberg or Facebook.
There's a policy that which is good on the surface,
that employees are given a twenty five dollars grub Hub
credit if they work past six pm. And in our business,
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at least just about everybody works past six pm if
you had a normal nine am start. If you work
in a location that does not have a cafeteria on
site and you work past six pm, you're giving a
twenty five dollar grub Hub credit.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
That's kind of cool. But here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Staffers evidently were ordering meals when they weren't even in
the office.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, that's an issue.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We're giving their credits to other members of staff, or
we're using the credits to buy groceries and other household essentials.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I don't know, Stephan, would you have.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
A problem with that if you were Mark Zuckerberg and
you were making these twenty five dollars grub Hub credits
available to staff to use. I'm saying, you know, probably
at their own discretion. If you're in the office past
six o'clock and there's not a cafeteria on site at
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your location, here's twenty five dollars to get food, and
you instead use it to get toothpaste, or you give
it to your you're assistant or someone else.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
How do you come out on that little bit odd
I don't know. I don't know how to feel about it.
It's pretty weird for me.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I think that you are creating more problems for your
company trying to regulate grubhub credits than just letting employees
be happy and use them. As it turns out, Mark
Zuckerberg has fired some twenty to thirty employees because of
not following that policy explicitly, some high ranking executives making
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more than four hundred.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Thousand dollars a year. I don't know if that's good business.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Yeah, I disagree, homeboy. I disagree. Oh, rules or rules, Huh,
It's not just rules or rules. If I have a
company and I have allotted a certain amount of money.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
For my employees to be able to.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Order food so they can stay in the office and
work with a Hey, you're here, you're working late. I'm
gonna take care of dinner for you, and I'm gonna
leave you just say I leave you cash to take
care of dinner, right right, And you then say, nah,
I'm gonna take that cash and put gas in my
car or I'm gonna go to the movies or whatever.
It's not for that, because then what you're also saying
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is that you're misusing the money that gave you to
help you work harder and do what you're doing. Say,
for instance, say, for instance, the cafeteria that we have here,
if I hard made it, don't call that a cafeteria,
if the little ampm snacks right, whatever you want to
call it. If I hard made it so that each
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of us on a daily basis could go in there
and get one item, just you know, work productivity, you know,
morale and all that. But then I see you inviting
someone up, a guest or anyone saying, hey, you can
have myself. I'm like, no, it's not for a guest,
is not for your friend, is not for you to
take homeboard now, It's for you to be able to
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work here and eat that food. Otherwise, don't touch it,
don't spend my money the way you want to mark.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It sounds like or seems like you have a differing opinion.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
I didn't say anything. Look at your facial expose. Okay,
all right, you face it at all. Well, here's a
little here's a little whip around quiz, how much do
you guys think Mark Zuckerman's net worth is burg? Oh ah, Zuckerberg.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, sorry, he's like two two hundred billion, if I'm
not mistaken.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Yeah, so, if a guy who's worth two hundred billion
dollars wants to micromanage what I'm spending on my food,
I would probably want to separate his head from the
rest of his body.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Okay, you're closer to me than Tula.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And this is the way I look at it from
a brand perception standpoint. Yes, rules are rules, but the
negative press and the negative the ill will that you
engender for firing people for if we take the story
of face that you assuming that they were fired specifically
for that and it wasn't connected to other behavior, I
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think that that probably costs a company more money because
you're getting rid of talent.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's not just you're getting rid of people. You're getting
rid of talented people who.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Have an institutional knowledge in whatever positions they have, and
you're getting rid of that over twenty five dollars here,
twenty five dollars here. I'm not saying it's right. I'm
saying it's a very small minded view of a big
picture issue.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Possibly, But if on Friday night when we party and
you are putting up dough for food, right, and you know,
Mark Fooshi, whoever else is here, we're starving, and you say,
you know what, I'm putting up the card. You all
order some food and we're all going to be here
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and happy or whatnot?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Right right?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
And instead of using that card to order some food,
you fight out, I'm ordering movie downloads or whatever. Now
I'm doing everything but what I was supposed to do
with that money. And now we're still sitting here, hungry, lackluster,
our performance isn't up, We're not happy or this, that
and the other. You would feel some kind of way
if we misuse the money that you gave us to
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do X, Y and z, you would not be cool
with it.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
All right, let me take that analogy one step further,
using my own mentality. Does that mean then if I
had the power to and I don't, does that mean
I fire the person who misused a card, and then
I'm without a producer or I'm without a technical director,
I'm without a news anchor. And that creates more upheaval
(25:40):
within the show than saying, hey, guys, you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Because of X, Y and Z. Otherwise we just have
to stop the practice.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
But it's not worth i'll say, turning the show upside
down and also making my life more difficult. I think
this makes it more difficult for Meta to survive. I
think it's a black guy for Meta publicly after a
whole bunch of black guys. I don't think being petty
is going to give them the type of return that
they want. Yes, rules are rules, but like for example,
(26:12):
in our kitchen, their items, you're supposed to pay for
all the items, yep, including the coffee, and people take
the coffee, they don't pay for it. And I know
the companies just said, okay, never mind, effort, we're not
going to worry about it.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Wait, we're supposed to pay for the coffee. No, not
the not the coffee in the machine. People are taking
coffee out the refrigerator yeah, okay, drinks.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, and they're taking that.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And I know the company is aware of it because
there's cameras in there, and I know they have a
feeling about it, but they've made the conscious decision either
let's talk to the person or let's address it on
some level. But it doesn't mean that we need to
fire them because it's probably more trouble than it's worth.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
You get one warning for stepping over that line. Stir
enough you no, no, no, I'm not no. Probably this is
this is facts. You get one warning for stepping over
that line. You get one. Oh, I didn't know. You
get one of those, and then you say, hey, man,
what happened to such and such? All right, you know
that's what I'm I'm no Brett Bear here, but I
(27:16):
think I can I think I can spot a slight,
a minor flaw in your analogy with with Mo in
that Mo is not worth two hundred billion dollars. Okay,
according to you, he lives in the taj Mahal. So
what are you talking about. Well, yeah, that's for a
different argument. That's a whole different set of rules that
for busting on it applies. I mean, in a different context,
(27:39):
I will bust on on Mo for living in a
villa with servants and valets. But this is not that
Mo is a is within the normal range of human
income in the situation that we're talking about here, doucker
Berg is not. You can't tell someone what to do
with their money. You can't we can't care about them.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
We can't.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
But I think it's shortsighted in this type of a decision.
I think it hurts the company more than the let's say,
the seven hundred and fifty dollars worth a Grubhub which
was misused.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Look, I promise you uh to take it even further
down the road that mark is going. These twenty thirty people,
I'm sure they're easily replaced.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
He did not.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
He did not fire top level executives whose Facebook or
Meta's very future hinges on their whims. You know what,
if you all get on out of here, you take
your misuse and misspending of my funds and be out
of here.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
If if mo Kelly during his if mo.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Kelly trying to defend stops broken windows, but if Kelly
during his years within the record industry was up there
misusing T.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
And E accounts, he'd be out of there. I don't
care what he was doing. Only not only was I
misusing it was I was. I was well, it was
kind of understood.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Hey, you know you're not supposed to take the CDs
and sell them back to Warehouse Music.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I didn't want you to tell himself.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I made a lot of money taking the promo CDs
with the little cutout to even show that. No, they
know that it was promo CDs, and I sold them
the warehouse. It made a lot of change.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
When when Moe has so much money that he can
afford a massive survival compound in New Zealand, then I'll
listen to your analogy.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
This is not that I think.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yes, I think rules are rules, but there should be
some discretion because the company is more important than I
think following every single rule. Look, there's there's letter of
the law and spirit the law, and no spirit of
the law is going to bring into is going to
endanger the company.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Look, if you want to fire someone for stealing five cents, yeah,
that's letter of the law. But the spirit of the
law is it's not worth that. I think it's injurious
to the company. Big picture maybe, but you also have
to set an example. You cannot have habitual line steppers
setting a bad example essentially stealing from the company because
you are misusing the funds. The funds are for this,
(30:15):
and you are using them for that. You're using them
off site, using them for whatever leisure activity you want to.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's not what it's for if.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
You take petty change you go and use the petty
personally what you want. I'm just saying, I'm not impersonal. No,
I'm just saying to a son or something. No, I
just do not think that if you're running a company,
you're running a company. If you're running you know, a
visit with you and your friends, just hanging out, do
whatever you want. I don't care, but this is a company.
This is all I want to know. Tawala, When did
(30:44):
you become Howard Hughes surrounded by bottles of your own urine,
counting the paper clips that your Mormon aids were using.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
This is insane that that is an apt reference. Too bad.
We got to go to break paint.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
We got to continue this on the other side because
Tuala is wrong and we need to make sure that
he's beaten into the dirt. Arkadye Cam I six forty
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Speaker 1 (31:06):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Don't forget.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Coming up on October thirtieth is the Later with Mo
Kelly pre Halloween sa A. We're getting our food lined up.
We're getting our beverages lined up. We're getting our winners
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Can't wait to meet all of you. But before the break,
(31:33):
we were talking about Meta slash Facebook, which has reportedly
fired some twenty to thirty employees connected to the misuse
of the twenty five dollars meal credits, which were reserved
for staffers who are working past six pm in offices
that don't have cafeterias on site. One of the employees
(31:55):
said that they were working nights and weekends, nights and
weekends for Meta it had spent their twenty five dollars
credit on items like toothpaste and tea from right aid
that was outside the boundaries as expressed and the policies
and procedures code of conduct for Metta. YadA YadA, YadA,
blah blah blah. And we've been going around in the
(32:17):
room as far as is this too heavy handed or not.
I said that yes, it violates the letter of the
law and probably the spirit of the law. But if
I'm Meta, I'm super sensitive to all the bad news
and all the bad reporting which has been everywhere regarding
Meta and Facebook, which does impact the stock price. Mark
(32:42):
was of the opinion that Mark Zuckerberg having some two
hundred million dollars in the bank, he should not be
worried about nickel and diming people to death. I don't
necessarily subscribe to that, because how much the owner has
is really neither here nor there.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I'm just thinking about the company. Tuala has gone off
on the deep end saying fire them all and maybe,
you know, send them to jail.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
He's got a little bit of an authoritarian streak that
I never picked up on before.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Now.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Look, I hate to get all I hate to get
all Scrooge McDuck on you, but no, I don't don't
count my dollars and cents. If I tell you that
this fund is for you to do X, Y and z,
then you do X, Y and Z with it. Do not.
(33:27):
I do not want to find out that you've been
misappropriating funds that I have supplied. I have a bottom line,
and from that bottom line, if I am trying to
make work life better, not your home life, not your
personal life. If I'm trying to make work life better.
Then that's what the funds are for. If I find
out that you're misusing that, there's very little I will
(33:49):
borrow from Trump. But I'm borrowing this.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
You fi it? Waitit, wait minute.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
So you're saying that when we had T and E
back in the music business and we were using it
for radio programmers taking them to strip clubs and take
them to the bunny ranch, that was inappropriate.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
That was very inappropriate. That was that was highly highly inappropriate.
Good sir, Oh okay, I was just wondering toiler, which
Charles Dickens character, would you say that you actually are?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well, I'm definitely not Bob Crackett.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
No, no, you're not tiny choices there No, Look, I understand.
Let the ghost come and visit me. You know what
they will say, Hey, Twala, you really took care of
your employees.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
But you know what you also did.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
You took care of your bottom line and made sure
your company stayed afloat, and you fired those free loading
users who were trying to bleed you dry. Yeah, because
obviously Facebook is struggling to make ends meet. We don't
know what Facebook is struggling to do. We don't know
what they're doing. I think I.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Don't follow their stock well from their public financial reports,
they're doing pretty damn well. Oh well, then they can
do without this twenty thirty free loaders. Bye, they can
do it that. Good bye. What about the institution knowledge,
Because from what I understand, these are varying levels of
employment within the company executives down to the assistant level.
(35:07):
You still actually you've incurred more of a cost trying
to replace them, I know that for a fact.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Possibly, And you know what's always waiting in the wings
at a company like a Facebook, hell, even at iHeartRadio.
Someone else who wants to take your spot always okay, also,
so trust to believe there's always someone who wants to
take your spot, who's waiting for you to mess up. Okay,
If you don't have time for half step in and shenanigans,
you don't, you know what, find yourself out of here,
(35:34):
find yourself on the chow line and maybe using that
grub Hub credit that you've been stealing from me.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Letala Trump in the.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Building, Kuala Trump, you mean Tuala Hitler? Who else used that?
Rules are rules? I just said to Wala Trump, I
didn't like you to the worst person. I'm just saying
like that world history and Bark is taking this not
a personal Well look, i mean at the point where
you say, don't worry about people, don't make more of them. Look,
(36:01):
that's what that's where the Hitlert job. This is a
this is a this is a strict business. If you
are not worried about your bottom line, why are you
in business? If you are not worried about keeping your
company afloat, if you are not mining the dollars, all
of the cents will roll right out.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Okay, company, all right, you know, let me say this
one point. We have a supply room back in the back. Okay,
we can get pins and and paper and that kind
of thing. And I'm quite sure people take more than
their fair share of stuff and take it home, not
because I've done it, but because I've done it.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
What's the statute of limitations on office supply? Right?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Office supply?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
So that, to follow your analogy, would be impacting the
bottom line. If I'm taking extra reams of paper for
by printer at home, you gotta go.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Yeah, really, old Tawala Hitler says, you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Okay, all right, let me let me just tell Robin
right now that she's gonna have to somehow replace because
tomorrow I'm not going to be here because I took
some extra paper.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
They don't grow post it notes on trees. MO, you
can't just take those. Look if Jack in the Box
is not charging a quarter for those damn ranch dressings,
the people that the cashers, they're just gonna start giving
them away, and me as the own they do, Me
as the franchise owner who has to pay for that.
(37:28):
That comes out of my bottom line. You don't get
to give away free ranches. I said, charge a quarter
for those ranches. Damn it. Charge a quarter for those
ranches if you're good to bring ranch into it. I
I'm out of arguments against it. Twala Hitler serious about
(37:48):
the ranch?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
What's sad?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
As?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
He's absolutely serious. I'm not joking, dead serious. Oh I'm
glad I'm not sitting next to him right now. I'd
be afraid. I'm so SMA.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Yeah, you don't mess around with this, so it's steal
it for me. You're gone in a hard Is it.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Stealing if they've you've already relinquished it, and instead of
using it for grubhub to get funions, they got toothpaste
really really, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Using it off company the company site. You're not using
it for what it's there for. Rules are rules because
of that, because that's why bring your own damn lunch.
You don't need my money. And then if you're not
gonna use my money, bring your.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Side with Mark, because we know that doesn't work both ways,
because you then have companies which take advantage of employees
they're working more than forty hours a week. I told
you about the person who's working weekends and nights in
excess of.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Whatever their salary base is.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
And then you're gonna say you're fired for using your grubhub.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Okay, look for toothpaste.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Look, we don't know if this person is working in
excess of the hours you say, like they're not getting paid,
like they're off the clock.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
No one's coming in on the weekends, off the clock.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Radio they are. Look if you're coming in off the
clock on rady. You know what we're doing. We are
trying to get what mo ahead. We are trying to
show improve we are trying to stake our claim in
the game.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Give an extra to the company that they did not
actually pay you for.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
You know, hell, welcome to the industry. Welcome to life.
When it comes to Grand Theft Ranch. That's where Tula
puts his foot down, isn't it look at the time
I look at it.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, yeah, KFI, mister bo Kelly, We're live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app and it's Tech Thursday, and that means
we get to talk to Marsha Collier who had left us,
left the country, so I'm told, and I'm surprised she
did come back, but I'm glad she came back.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Marshall, car was good to see you. Where'd you go?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I went to England to visit my family. And I
say England because I spent a couple of days in
London because my daughter was with me.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Kind of have to do that.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
It was my uncle's ninety eighth birthday. Oh what a blessing,
and he was all dressed up in a gorgeous suit
and tie and cuff links. We went out to a
restaurant for dinner. It was spectacular and he mentally challenged me.
And I've just decided that if God forbid, anything happens
to me bad in the head as I get older,
(00:53):
I want to be in a home over there.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
That's gonna be your retirement community.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
I figured it out.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, Well, we missed you, but glad to have you back.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
As an Android owner, a pixel Phone owner, I know
that I can pretty much depend on a new operating
system just about each October. It used to coincide when
they would release the latest version of the pixel phone,
but they moved at the pixel Phone date. Well, they
debuted it, but you couldn't get it for like another
forty five days. But Android fifteen is out. I don't
(01:27):
even know what the name for it is. I don't
know if they still name them anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I'm sorry, I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
But in my new book Android Smartphones for Seniors for Dummies,
which comes out December fifth, available for pre order on Amazon.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
It's in there all right.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I never remember what I write in a book because
when you see my books, there's so much information that
I have.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
To flip back to reference the stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So you know, that's why there's a great index so
you can find things, because it's filled with stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I downloaded Android fifteen what is today Thursday? I did
it on Tuesday too, and I didn't have a chance
to really play with it yet, but I know some
of the highlights and some of the new features.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Have you had much chance to work with it.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Well, I obviously when I wrote the book, I had
a bunch of phones and one of them was a
Pixel Pro seven, which I was on the beta testing
for Android fifteen.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Explain it for folks who may not know what beta
testing is.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
That means they need some people to try out operating
systems to see where the failures are, to see where
the good things are, to find out oops.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
You do that, you lock up your phone.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So it's not something you definitely want to try on
your daily driver, and you need to have a little
bit of technical knowledge to get out of some messes
that you do get in. But I had it on
this phone and I was watching it happen, and it's
a new operating system, it's got new features. It's not
(03:06):
going to change your life, just like I hate to
break it to your iPhone folks, The new iPhone not
going to change your life.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So these were maybe incremental upgrades, not a revolutionary or
a material upgrade.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, the beta test came in different downloads, like they'd
download one thing and then if something was broken with that,
they'd fix it in the next download and the next download,
so it went several downloads, and things are incremental for example.
It's not out right now, but there will be something
in Android fifteen which will allow you to set your
(03:44):
phone so that you can plug it in all night
and will stop charging at eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Stop or slow down Stop. What would be the advantage
of that, because I'd like to keep my iPhone charge
well it. But when you have a battery a lithium,
a lithium I own battery in a phone and you
charge it to one hundred or you let it go
down below twenty, there's damage to the battery. Yes, So
(04:17):
to extend the life of a battery, you don't have
to turn it on. If you want to charge to
one hundred, you can, but you will have the option
to stop it at eighty and then have it, let's
say at five am in the morning finish charging.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh okay, we'll finish charging.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I do know that, and I know that when
I get a new phone, that battery has about a
year and a half two years before it starts to degrade.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That I noticed it at least.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
And you'll find when you start stopping at eighty percent.
Because other brands have phones already do this, that was
in their own software overlay, that they will last a
lot longer, and the batteries just they don't deterar, right,
because these are expensive little devices. We need them, we
(05:04):
use them, we get upgrades. And I mean, what now,
there's a six to seven year upgrade period with each
Android phone.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
And how likely are you to keep that same phone
for six or seven years?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I have, I should say, actively.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Using, actively using. You know, I still have a couple
old ones that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I keep my old ones, but I'm not I may
use them as a spare camera for security purpose.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, I've got a spare camera phone. I have got
a home entertainment phone, gotcha, that has all those apps
on it because I don't want to take up space
and what I'm carrying around because I Am not going
to stop anywhere and watch Big Bang Theory. And I
have another one smart home as all my smart home stuff.
(05:54):
The smart home one also has all my financial stuff
on it.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Those apps. I will not put on a phone that
I'm carrying around. It's just not safe.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Speaking of not saying, very quickly, before we go to break,
let's talk about this new feature called theft protection on
Android fifteen. If I have it right, the phone will
sense if if someone is like stolen your phone and
yanked it out of your hand and starts running down
the street. Yes, supposedly suppose it, right, Not that I
want to try it to find out.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Well, we were trying it downstairs and obviously we don't
run fast enough.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You didn't trigger it, no, or the.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Wi Fi wasn't working, we didn't have a signal. You know,
there's all that technically what's supposed to happen. And also
they're still sending down incremental downloads of Android fifteen, so
you may get part of it and may not get
all of it.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
But that's basically what Mo said. Some you're on your phone, dout.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Not payg attention, right.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Someone yanks it out of your hand, starts running with it.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Then it uses the gyro scope, it uses your location,
It uses all these methods AI no doubt to lock
the phone.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's almost like crash detection for your phone.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Right, And crash detection is another one of the new features. Now,
I'm not going to go crash my car to test it, but.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
But if you should, your phone will let you know
that it's you've crashed your car and call emergency service.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Well, I can tell you that on Star did that.
So I can't.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
But this is Star per month, right.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
But what I'm saying is I know it can be done.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Becausej yeah, so on Star did it. Now, if you
want to go where you need to go to find
all these really cool Google things on a pixel phone,
you go to settings. You know how to do that, right,
you press a little cog thing. Google is an actual
category now and it will be in a lot of
(07:56):
Android phones. Then all services. Then you'll see theft protection,
theft detection lock.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Oh, and you can lock it now.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Once you turn it on, you have to thumbprint or
something to get out of it, you know, thumb print
or user and that's it. If somebody forcefully takes your
phone from your hand and runs away, now not only
do they have that, but they have a lot of
other things they have.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Uh, we got unknown tracker alerts. I'm just noticing, Oh.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
My god, the unknown tracker alert.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
My husband had a tracker with me and it kept
beeping and beeping, and my phone keeps going, there's a
tracker following there's a tracker following you. And in my book,
you're going to be able to learn how to identify
whose tracker it is.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh I can't wait. I need an advance copy.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
You can have one as soon as I get them.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
All right, It's Later with mo Keller.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
We're talking with Marshall Collier, who's back from England on
this Tech Thursday. KFIM six forty WeLive everywhere in the
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
KFI O Kelly, We're live everywhere on this Tech Thursday
and on the iHeartRadio App. Marshall Collier joins us in studio.
She's back from across the pond. Marshall, tell me something
about these past keys. I'm hearing that terminology all the time.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Paskeys are you know?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I'm gonna agree with all of you because I'm not
going to fake knowing something and just gaslight all you.
Paskeys come in so many different flavors and so many
different ways. There's one website that may want you to
download some keys for you to keep somewhere safely.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I think that's face.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's not like a version of a pass word, but
not necessarily a word.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
But it's a key. Now.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
First, first I thought that had to do with like
a UBI key. With a Ubie key is a thing
that you plug into your USB port and that is
the lock for all your websites. The only problem is
I never used it because I knew for sure I
was going to lose.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It just period. I knew it.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I didn't know how many I would need, but I
would definitely lose it. So a lot of times, like
with Chrome, you can do the thumb print to get
in and out, and also on your phone when you
put one of these settings that we were just talking about,
like theft protection, once you've turned it on, in order
(10:39):
to turn it off, you have to put your fingerprint
down to prove that it's you turning off the theft protection.
So pass keys right now are confusing. They're run by
so many different companies and I don't like that because
you know, that goes back to the days where you
come to a new website and it says sign in
(11:00):
with Google, sign in with Instagram, and realize that every
time you're signing in with one of those websites, they
have the right to all the information that you've got
on those websites. So scary thought, just you know, so
I just stopped, Dude, I think I did it once
(11:22):
until I realized. But what to me is even more
scary is AI that's coming out mo and we're going
to have it for the holidays.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's going to scare the heck out of you.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
There's a new smart glasses that looks at you inward
while you're looking out from them.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Wait a minute, say that again, Say that again.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Okay, they look here. Quote.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
They are ones that peer inward at you rather than outward,
so you can see out the glasses right, But the
glasses are watching you. They're called Sense and they have
a bunch of sensors in them that monitor your facial
movements in real time to get your emotional state.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
What do I get to What do I get for that?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
What?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
What can it do for me? Once it figures out
I'm angry or am I'm sad?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Well, and it can also pick up subtle movements that
occur when people make expressions like smiling, frowning, something like that.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
It can watch what you're eating.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
To see if you're sticking to your diet and let
you know how many calories.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Now again they're called this.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Sounds like another spouse monitoring whatever I do. Who am
I smiling at? Who am I talking to what did
you eat for lunch?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Two?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Nightly tip the waiters when you leave.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Anyway, So these are coming out and the CEO of
the company was the guy who was in charge of
snap the spectacles of Snapchat.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
That was his project.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
So the old goal for these glasses is mental health
and dietary management. Now where the data goes, we don't
really hear about that. But tracking your food consumption, I'm
thinking that that's not a good thing if they sell
it to your insurance company, if you're the.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Only reason they would track that data is if they
could use that data or sell that data.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Well.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Also, it has a single outward facing camera that can
be used to snap pictures of the food you're eating.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I guess that's so that's useful in this world war,
or to post our meals.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Or if you eat too quickly based on the detection
of choose per second.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Oh damn, just let me enjoy my meal.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
This is coming. I think it's in November, which is
coming couple weeks, coming too soon.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
But it's called Sense Glasses by a company called m Tech.
And when I go to cees, I guarantee you I
will look at it. I can promise you. I won't
be bringing one home for us to play with.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
For me, all these new technological advances, For me, the
value is in the utility. How can I use it
in my life? Not not? Is it wow? Can it
do wonderful things? But what can it do for me?
Does it have any real usefulness in my life?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
That doesn't wasn't it Marshall McLuhan who named utles?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Okayles are a unit of measurement. You pay blank amount
for this? How much utility you get out of that?
You break those into units and you can figure out
a cost basis if it's worth it to you to
pay it. Do you get all the utiles the utility
you need out of something? And that's an old theory.
(15:10):
It's been around for a while, and I think more
and more we're going to have to think about it,
because real fast, I got to tell you about this.
Gotta have this comes out November seventh from Casio.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I used to love Casio, from the keyboards to their watches.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I got something even better for.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Caso's Casio's back and look what they're making.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
They look like gribils tribles. Okay, start trek triples close enough.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
They do.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Actually, they look like guinea pigs and it's a new
hypoallergenic robot pet. They've been demonstrating them in Japan and
the slogan is always by your side.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Okay, let's go back to the utility discussion.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
What do they do or they just do they sense
your emotions and know when you're saying and come saddle
up next to you or something.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, funny, Yeah they do, Yeah, they do it.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
It's really strange.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
It doesn't really walk and instead wiggles in place depending
on the interaction you're having with it when you open
the box. It's just a baby and it learns from you.
It's I know, they're selling them for roughly four hundred
dollars a device in Japan.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Let me guess and attracts all this data and they
sells it.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Well.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I don't know yet, but I think you can build
a deeper bond with an owner through voice and gesture
based recognition software. Trust is apparently earned with the toy,
and it takes a few months for it to fully
develop into a strange bunch of affection and emotion. It
(16:59):
will also negative emotions if you treat it negatively, which
is kind of ominous. Yeah, scary, it's awfully cute. Around
day fifty, owners can fully ex their moflin to be
fully matured and offer unique cooing noises and wriggling movements
from a range of four million different combinations.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Can we just go back to Baby Alive? Do you
remember Baby Alive?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
The one that pooped in Pea?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yes, when life was much simpler, wasn't that simple? My
sister had a baby alive.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I didn't have one. I just wasn't.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
You had feed it and it would crap like an
hour later or something.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Really yeah, so cool it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Was for nineteen seventy three. Yes, it was very cool
in my day.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
It was a chatty Kathy doll.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Chatty Kathy, yeah, which you could pull the string.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
In the back.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
By the way, I have two of those going up
for sale on eBay. You in box, never been played with,
but yeah, this is today's chatty Kathy. Problem is only
has a five hour battery life. But you said it
on its little thing and it will sit in a
bed like cradle and recharge.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So you could charge it like overnight.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yes you could.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
And they're palm sized gerbils and it's way more than
a Ferby.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Ferbies were scary, weren't they.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, yeah, I have a problem with mechanical furry things.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Okay, well we have a mechanical dog from Japan, right,
bring them in from Japan. Yes, we should bring Iebow
in one week. We kind of turned Ibo off once
they wanted to charge three hundred dollars a year for
the Wi Fi.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh no, that turns in like to like a veterinary.
Veterinarian costs well.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Then it doesn't learn.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Well, you know, it's been twelve I think we're running
out of time.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yes, look at time is Later with Mo Kelly. It's
always good to see you, Marcia Carty.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
See you next week.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Absolutely, we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And Facebook is still a thing. When you talk about meta,
that's inclusive of what's appened Instagram, But Facebook, the flagship
of meta, is still really important in a variety of
ways in our social media lives. But if you think
about what goes on behind the scenes, what it's like
(19:34):
to work at Meta, I'm not so sure that I
would ever want to work for Mark Zuckerberg or Facebook.
There's a policy that which is good on the surface,
that employees are given a twenty five dollars grub Hub
credit if they work past six pm. And in our business,
(19:56):
at least just about everybody works past six pm if
you had a normal nine am start. If you work
in a location that does not have a cafeteria on
site and you work past six pm, you're giving a
twenty five dollar grub Hub credit.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
That's kind of cool. But here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Staffers evidently were ordering meals when they weren't even in
the office.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, that's an issue.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We're giving their credits to other members of staff, or
we're using the credits to buy groceries and other household essentials.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I don't know, Stephan, would you have.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
A problem with that if you were Mark Zuckerberg and
you were making these twenty five dollars grub Hub credits
available to staff to use. I'm saying, you know, probably
at their own discretion. If you're in the office past
six o'clock and there's not a cafeteria on site at
(20:52):
your location, here's twenty five dollars to get food, and
you instead use it to get toothpaste, or you give
it to your you're assistant or someone else.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
How do you come out on that little bit odd
I don't know. I don't know how to feel about it.
It's pretty weird for me.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I think that you are creating more problems for your
company trying to regulate grubhub credits than just letting employees
be happy and use them. As it turns out, Mark
Zuckerberg has fired some twenty to thirty employees because of
not following that policy explicitly, some high ranking executives making
(21:39):
more than four hundred.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Thousand dollars a year. I don't know if that's good business.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Yeah, I disagree, homeboy. I disagree. Oh, rules or rules, Huh,
It's not just rules or rules. If I have a
company and I have allotted a certain amount of money.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
For my employees to be able to.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Order food so they can stay in the office and
work with a Hey, you're here, you're working late. I'm
gonna take care of dinner for you, and I'm gonna
leave you just say I leave you cash to take
care of dinner, right right, And you then say, nah,
I'm gonna take that cash and put gas in my
car or I'm gonna go to the movies or whatever.
It's not for that, because then what you're also saying
(22:23):
is that you're misusing the money that gave you to
help you work harder and do what you're doing. Say,
for instance, say, for instance, the cafeteria that we have here,
if I hard made it, don't call that a cafeteria,
if the little ampm snacks right, whatever you want to
call it. If I hard made it so that each
(22:45):
of us on a daily basis could go in there
and get one item, just you know, work productivity, you know,
morale and all that. But then I see you inviting
someone up, a guest or anyone saying, hey, you can
have myself. I'm like, no, it's not for a guest,
is not for your friend, is not for you to
take homeboard now, It's for you to be able to
(23:06):
work here and eat that food. Otherwise, don't touch it,
don't spend my money the way you want to mark.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It sounds like or seems like you have a differing opinion.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
I didn't say anything. Look at your facial expose. Okay,
all right, you face it at all. Well, here's a
little here's a little whip around quiz, how much do
you guys think Mark Zuckerman's net worth is burg? Oh ah, Zuckerberg.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, sorry, he's like two two hundred billion, if I'm
not mistaken.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Yeah, so, if a guy who's worth two hundred billion
dollars wants to micromanage what I'm spending on my food,
I would probably want to separate his head from the
rest of his body.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Okay, you're closer to me than Tula.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And this is the way I look at it from
a brand perception standpoint. Yes, rules are rules, but the
negative press and the negative the ill will that you
engender for firing people for if we take the story
of face that you assuming that they were fired specifically
for that and it wasn't connected to other behavior, I
(24:10):
think that that probably costs a company more money because
you're getting rid of talent.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's not just you're getting rid of people. You're getting
rid of talented people who.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Have an institutional knowledge in whatever positions they have, and
you're getting rid of that over twenty five dollars here,
twenty five dollars here. I'm not saying it's right. I'm
saying it's a very small minded view of a big
picture issue.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Possibly, But if on Friday night when we party and
you are putting up dough for food, right, and you know,
Mark Fooshi, whoever else is here, we're starving, and you say,
you know what, I'm putting up the card. You all
order some food and we're all going to be here
(24:55):
and happy or whatnot?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Right right?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
And instead of using that card to order some food,
you fight out, I'm ordering movie downloads or whatever. Now
I'm doing everything but what I was supposed to do
with that money. And now we're still sitting here, hungry, lackluster,
our performance isn't up, We're not happy or this, that
and the other. You would feel some kind of way
if we misuse the money that you gave us to
(25:17):
do X, Y and z, you would not be cool
with it.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
All right, let me take that analogy one step further,
using my own mentality. Does that mean then if I
had the power to and I don't, does that mean
I fire the person who misused a card, and then
I'm without a producer or I'm without a technical director,
I'm without a news anchor. And that creates more upheaval
(25:40):
within the show than saying, hey, guys, you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Because of X, Y and Z. Otherwise we just have
to stop the practice.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
But it's not worth i'll say, turning the show upside
down and also making my life more difficult. I think
this makes it more difficult for Meta to survive. I
think it's a black guy for Meta publicly after a
whole bunch of black guys. I don't think being petty
is going to give them the type of return that
they want. Yes, rules are rules, but like for example,
(26:12):
in our kitchen, their items, you're supposed to pay for
all the items, yep, including the coffee, and people take
the coffee, they don't pay for it. And I know
the companies just said, okay, never mind, effort, we're not
going to worry about it.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Wait, we're supposed to pay for the coffee. No, not
the not the coffee in the machine. People are taking
coffee out the refrigerator yeah, okay, drinks.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, and they're taking that.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And I know the company is aware of it because
there's cameras in there, and I know they have a
feeling about it, but they've made the conscious decision either
let's talk to the person or let's address it on
some level. But it doesn't mean that we need to
fire them because it's probably more trouble than it's worth.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
You get one warning for stepping over that line. Stir
enough you no, no, no, I'm not no. Probably this is
this is facts. You get one warning for stepping over
that line. You get one. Oh, I didn't know. You
get one of those, and then you say, hey, man,
what happened to such and such? All right, you know
that's what I'm I'm no Brett Bear here, but I
(27:16):
think I can I think I can spot a slight,
a minor flaw in your analogy with with Mo in
that Mo is not worth two hundred billion dollars. Okay,
according to you, he lives in the taj Mahal. So
what are you talking about. Well, yeah, that's for a
different argument. That's a whole different set of rules that
for busting on it applies. I mean, in a different context,
(27:39):
I will bust on on Mo for living in a
villa with servants and valets. But this is not that
Mo is a is within the normal range of human
income in the situation that we're talking about here, doucker
Berg is not. You can't tell someone what to do
with their money. You can't we can't care about them.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
We can't.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
But I think it's shortsighted in this type of a decision.
I think it hurts the company more than the let's say,
the seven hundred and fifty dollars worth a Grubhub which
was misused.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Look, I promise you uh to take it even further
down the road that mark is going. These twenty thirty people,
I'm sure they're easily replaced.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
He did not.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
He did not fire top level executives whose Facebook or
Meta's very future hinges on their whims. You know what,
if you all get on out of here, you take
your misuse and misspending of my funds and be out
of here.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
If if mo Kelly during his if mo.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Kelly trying to defend stops broken windows, but if Kelly
during his years within the record industry was up there
misusing T.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
And E accounts, he'd be out of there. I don't
care what he was doing. Only not only was I
misusing it was I was. I was well, it was
kind of understood.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Hey, you know you're not supposed to take the CDs
and sell them back to Warehouse Music.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I didn't want you to tell himself.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I made a lot of money taking the promo CDs
with the little cutout to even show that. No, they
know that it was promo CDs, and I sold them
the warehouse. It made a lot of change.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
When when Moe has so much money that he can
afford a massive survival compound in New Zealand, then I'll
listen to your analogy.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
This is not that I think.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yes, I think rules are rules, but there should be
some discretion because the company is more important than I
think following every single rule. Look, there's there's letter of
the law and spirit the law, and no spirit of
the law is going to bring into is going to
endanger the company.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Look, if you want to fire someone for stealing five cents, yeah,
that's letter of the law. But the spirit of the
law is it's not worth that. I think it's injurious
to the company. Big picture maybe, but you also have
to set an example. You cannot have habitual line steppers
setting a bad example essentially stealing from the company because
you are misusing the funds. The funds are for this,
(30:15):
and you are using them for that. You're using them
off site, using them for whatever leisure activity you want to.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's not what it's for if.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
You take petty change you go and use the petty
personally what you want. I'm just saying, I'm not impersonal. No,
I'm just saying to a son or something. No, I
just do not think that if you're running a company,
you're running a company. If you're running you know, a
visit with you and your friends, just hanging out, do
whatever you want. I don't care, but this is a company.
This is all I want to know. Tawala, When did
(30:44):
you become Howard Hughes surrounded by bottles of your own urine,
counting the paper clips that your Mormon aids were using.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
This is insane that that is an apt reference. Too bad.
We got to go to break paint.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
We got to continue this on the other side because
Tuala is wrong and we need to make sure that
he's beaten into the dirt. Arkadye Cam I six forty
We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
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Coming up on October thirtieth is the Later with Mo
Kelly pre Halloween sa A. We're getting our food lined up.
We're getting our beverages lined up. We're getting our winners
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Can't wait to meet all of you. But before the break,
(31:33):
we were talking about Meta slash Facebook, which has reportedly
fired some twenty to thirty employees connected to the misuse
of the twenty five dollars meal credits, which were reserved
for staffers who are working past six pm in offices
that don't have cafeterias on site. One of the employees
(31:55):
said that they were working nights and weekends, nights and
weekends for Meta it had spent their twenty five dollars
credit on items like toothpaste and tea from right aid
that was outside the boundaries as expressed and the policies
and procedures code of conduct for Metta. YadA YadA, YadA,
blah blah blah. And we've been going around in the
(32:17):
room as far as is this too heavy handed or not.
I said that yes, it violates the letter of the
law and probably the spirit of the law. But if
I'm Meta, I'm super sensitive to all the bad news
and all the bad reporting which has been everywhere regarding
Meta and Facebook, which does impact the stock price. Mark
(32:42):
was of the opinion that Mark Zuckerberg having some two
hundred million dollars in the bank, he should not be
worried about nickel and diming people to death. I don't
necessarily subscribe to that, because how much the owner has
is really neither here nor there.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I'm just thinking about the company. Tuala has gone off
on the deep end saying fire them all and maybe,
you know, send them to jail.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
He's got a little bit of an authoritarian streak that
I never picked up on before.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Now.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Look, I hate to get all I hate to get
all Scrooge McDuck on you, but no, I don't don't
count my dollars and cents. If I tell you that
this fund is for you to do X, Y and z,
then you do X, Y and Z with it. Do not.
(33:27):
I do not want to find out that you've been
misappropriating funds that I have supplied. I have a bottom line,
and from that bottom line, if I am trying to
make work life better, not your home life, not your
personal life. If I'm trying to make work life better.
Then that's what the funds are for. If I find
out that you're misusing that, there's very little I will
(33:49):
borrow from Trump. But I'm borrowing this.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
You fi it? Waitit, wait minute.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
So you're saying that when we had T and E
back in the music business and we were using it
for radio programmers taking them to strip clubs and take
them to the bunny ranch, that was inappropriate.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
That was very inappropriate. That was that was highly highly inappropriate.
Good sir, Oh okay, I was just wondering toiler, which
Charles Dickens character, would you say that you actually are?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well, I'm definitely not Bob Crackett.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
No, no, you're not tiny choices there No, Look, I understand.
Let the ghost come and visit me. You know what
they will say, Hey, Twala, you really took care of
your employees.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
But you know what you also did.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
You took care of your bottom line and made sure
your company stayed afloat, and you fired those free loading
users who were trying to bleed you dry. Yeah, because
obviously Facebook is struggling to make ends meet. We don't
know what Facebook is struggling to do. We don't know
what they're doing. I think I.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Don't follow their stock well from their public financial reports,
they're doing pretty damn well. Oh well, then they can
do without this twenty thirty free loaders. Bye, they can
do it that. Good bye. What about the institution knowledge,
Because from what I understand, these are varying levels of
employment within the company executives down to the assistant level.
(35:07):
You still actually you've incurred more of a cost trying
to replace them, I know that for a fact.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Possibly, And you know what's always waiting in the wings
at a company like a Facebook, hell, even at iHeartRadio.
Someone else who wants to take your spot always okay, also,
so trust to believe there's always someone who wants to
take your spot, who's waiting for you to mess up. Okay,
If you don't have time for half step in and shenanigans,
you don't, you know what, find yourself out of here,
(35:34):
find yourself on the chow line and maybe using that
grub Hub credit that you've been stealing from me.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Letala Trump in the.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Building, Kuala Trump, you mean Tuala Hitler? Who else used that?
Rules are rules? I just said to Wala Trump, I
didn't like you to the worst person. I'm just saying
like that world history and Bark is taking this not
a personal Well look, i mean at the point where
you say, don't worry about people, don't make more of them. Look,
(36:01):
that's what that's where the Hitlert job. This is a
this is a this is a strict business. If you
are not worried about your bottom line, why are you
in business? If you are not worried about keeping your
company afloat, if you are not mining the dollars, all
of the cents will roll right out.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Okay, company, all right, you know, let me say this
one point. We have a supply room back in the back. Okay,
we can get pins and and paper and that kind
of thing. And I'm quite sure people take more than
their fair share of stuff and take it home, not
because I've done it, but because I've done it.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
What's the statute of limitations on office supply? Right?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Office supply?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
So that, to follow your analogy, would be impacting the
bottom line. If I'm taking extra reams of paper for
by printer at home, you gotta go.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Yeah, really, old Tawala Hitler says, you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Okay, all right, let me let me just tell Robin
right now that she's gonna have to somehow replace because
tomorrow I'm not going to be here because I took
some extra paper.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
They don't grow post it notes on trees. MO, you
can't just take those. Look if Jack in the Box
is not charging a quarter for those damn ranch dressings,
the people that the cashers, they're just gonna start giving
them away, and me as the own they do, Me
as the franchise owner who has to pay for that.
(37:28):
That comes out of my bottom line. You don't get
to give away free ranches. I said, charge a quarter
for those ranches. Damn it. Charge a quarter for those
ranches if you're good to bring ranch into it. I
I'm out of arguments against it. Twala Hitler serious about
(37:48):
the ranch?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
What's sad?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
As?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
He's absolutely serious. I'm not joking, dead serious. Oh I'm
glad I'm not sitting next to him right now. I'd
be afraid. I'm so SMA.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Yeah, you don't mess around with this, so it's steal
it for me. You're gone in a hard Is it.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Stealing if they've you've already relinquished it, and instead of
using it for grubhub to get funions, they got toothpaste
really really, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Using it off company the company site. You're not using
it for what it's there for. Rules are rules because
of that, because that's why bring your own damn lunch.
You don't need my money. And then if you're not
gonna use my money, bring your.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Side with Mark, because we know that doesn't work both ways,
because you then have companies which take advantage of employees
they're working more than forty hours a week. I told
you about the person who's working weekends and nights in
excess of.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Whatever their salary base is.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
And then you're gonna say you're fired for using your grubhub.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Okay, look for toothpaste.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Look, we don't know if this person is working in
excess of the hours you say, like they're not getting paid,
like they're off the clock.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
No one's coming in on the weekends, off the clock.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Radio they are. Look if you're coming in off the
clock on rady. You know what we're doing. We are
trying to get what mo ahead. We are trying to
show improve we are trying to stake our claim in
the game.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Give an extra to the company that they did not
actually pay you for.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
You know, hell, welcome to the industry. Welcome to life.
When it comes to Grand Theft Ranch. That's where Tula
puts his foot down, isn't it look at the time
I look at it.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
KFI A F six forty. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Stimulating talk for independent Thought.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
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Speaker 3 (39:33):
Live everywhere on the Art Radio app.
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