October 25, 2024 • 38 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the future of AR devices & a way to get Microsoft Office without a subscription and more on ‘Tech Thursday’ with regular guest contributor; (author, podcast host, and technology pundit) Marsha Collier…PLUS – Thoughts on the growing trend of couples going through a divorce and having to decide who gets control of the shared Social Media accounts AND the top trending costumes for Halloween this year - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It is Tech Thursday, so that means that Marsha Collier
joins us in studio. Marsha, you look radiant. It's always
good to see you. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Oh, I'm fine. I'm fine. You know not. I work alone.
I don't catch colds.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Well, that's not bad, that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I remember having a discussion with you about the Apple
Vision Pro. You were in here at night when we
had a friend who works in tech. He has his
own video virtual reality production company, Adam Contrast, and we
all got a chance to check out the Apple Vision Pro.
We remember that it was very heavy, clunky, and none
(00:45):
of us thought that it was going to be a
mover or a shaker in the world of tech. What
has happened since that.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Time, Well, first of all, Apple figured they were going
to sell eight hundred thousand of these in a year.
That was their target. I wonder who said that, And
if you remember, I do believe that Adam returned his
Yes he did, Yeah, he did. As of July twelfth,
they've only sold three hundred thousand, and there's no numbers
(01:15):
on that return policy as to how many have been returned,
but they're very disappointed about it, and just disappointed, you know,
I personally wonder is this something people really need to
spend three five hundred dollars on.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, here's always been the problem for me and Apple
with the proprietary technology. It's not in an ecosystem by
and large where there was enough software, enough apps for
people to use. It didn't play well with any other
virtual reality of technology which was out there, and so
(01:57):
I thought it had limited appeal that is now been
born out. But also sometimes great technology and I'm not
saying it was great, but it doesn't matter. How great
technology can roundbreaking, groundbreaking, Yeah, it doesn't always connect with people.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, the thing is none of the developers obviously were
excited enough to do apps for it, and that was
one of the problems. How much could you do with it?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Very little from what I could tell what people had
told me exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And I don't know how this is going to affect
their stock or anything else. But they're saying they're going
to make a lot less of them in twenty twenty five,
and they're going to have a price of two thousand
dollars and it will ditch the Vision pros faster processor,
and it'll have more premium build materials.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I was talking with a friend earlier today and they
were remembering the fight between VHS and Beta, and it
got me thinking about this. Beta was the superior video
delivery system as far as picture clarity and technology.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Absolutely, Sony rocks.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I had a Sony Beta mix, but VHS was the
more pervasive and available technology to a certain point where
movie studios were only creating the video content for VHS
and Beta fell off the scene. I think this might
be something similar where the Vision pro might be a
superior product but there's limited apps for it.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, you know, basic marketing one oh one. The first
thing I have to do when I write a book
is I have to put a little paragraph about marketing
in the proposal. And if there isn't a big enough
market for it, Apple has to do something new because
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they have their people in the iPhone universe. There are
people who go back and forth between Android and Apple.
But Apple is no longer the exclusive, elegant device that
was yards and yards ahead of anything else, as they
claimed in the day. I'm not saying if they were
(04:13):
or not, but hey, I love my iPod. You know,
I traveled with it all the time. It was a
great product. So they're looking for something else, and you
know what, that's because Wall Street, because stockholders, And that's where,
in my view, companies lose their vision.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Beyond losing vision, I think a fair assessment. I think
a non tech genius could have realized, hey, this is
a really expensive piece of technology which doesn't have a
lot of utility in other words, few apps, and it's
only going to be attracted to a very small niche
segment of the tech buying public. I think anybody could
(04:56):
have realized that.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, you could realize it because there used to be
another device and I don't remember who made it, but
it looked exactly not exactly like and you would put
your phone inside of it to make it work. It
was a headset. Now that is a much less expensive solution,
and you don't see him making that anymore either.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I remember you had talked about how you had used
Google Glass for your wedding. Yeah, I thought that was
a superior piece of technology, but it didn't catch on.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Sometimes it can be great.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Early, Yes, it was just way too early. I mean
people were calling people glassholes and all kinds of things
because they hadn't seen stuff like that before.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Do you remember, I can't remember what it was called,
but IBM had a similar piece of technology that never
got to the consumer market. But they even had commercials
for some guys sitting on the bench using what seemed
to be an early version of what would be Google Glass.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It never caught on.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Okay, we can go all the way back to the
original cell phone. Remember that giant block. Oh got your
cell phone? Yeah? I think it was Motorola.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It was about the size of a shoebox.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Shoebox, Yes, it was a shoebox.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Easy and oftentimes technology early adopters are not the ones
who benefit most from it.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You can think of any like Motorola.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Obviously, with phones, they're not the industry leader anymore, and
they haven't been for quite some time. You can go
back to like Magell and GPS. They're not the industry
leader exactly. No, but Google Glass isn't dead. There's a
new There are new versions, and they're made for different industries.
For example, you have a new guy working on a
(06:36):
car line manufacturing cars. He forgets exactly what to do
you flip on these the Google Glass and it shows
the engine and what goes where, and it instructs them.
I tried them on the industrial versions made a lot of.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Sense, Well, there is your utility.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It had an audience there, but not the wider consumer
market exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But then again, even for its time, it was fifty
I was one of them, one of the people. I
was invited and I paid fifteen hundred dollars. I don't
know what I was thinking, but I was. But I
got to go to Google headquarters. Novel. But yeah, no,
thirty five hundred dollars is just too much to come
out with in last year's economy, when things were just
(07:21):
starting to slide and people were looking at a brand
new iPhone, they realized they came out with it with
lots of other products. Now you got to target what
you're going to sell the customer and what you want
to sell a lot of and.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
People have to make a decision.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Am I going to buy this now one thousand dollar
phone or you're asking me to buy the thousand dollar
phone and a three thousand dollars Apple Vision Pro. You know,
people are going to have to make a decision because
they know that a new version is going to come
out next year.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Speaking of I know you wear a health ring, health
fitness ring.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Or risk of pixel watch, No I don't. I don't
wear an ora. This is just a silicon. Okay, looks
like one. But anyway, the new version has to be resized.
You are forced to buy a new one.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Hell, they're not cheap to begin with.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Right, except they are four hundred dollars. I believe the
Aura also has a subscription you have to pay for. Okay,
when I go to CBS this year, I promise you
I'm going to look deep into that stuff so we
can figure that out. Speaking of subscriptions.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
When we come back on the other side, let's talk
about Microsoft Office. It used to be the thing that
everyone had to have, but now there's so many alternatives,
free alternatives. It makes you wonder whether Microsoft Office is
still a requirement.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Don't tell me now, No, I won't.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
We're going to talk about that when we get back.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's Later with mo Kelly. Marsha Collier joins me in studio.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty mo.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Kelly Alive Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app on this Tech Thursday,
Marcia Collier continues to join me in studio. Marsha, I'm
a guy who grew up on IBM machines. I say
that to say Microsoft Office was inextricably linked to everything
I had to do, from Excel, word, whatever you needed
(09:22):
Microsoft Office back in the day. Now there are free
alternatives which do just about everything that Microsoft Office does.
You can get on Google Drive and use Google Docs.
It does just about everything. Where is Microsoft Office in
today's world?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Well, in my opinion, I mean, let's talk about this.
Each company has to make their decisions to their standard.
You can't have half your people using Microsoft and half
your people using Google Docs, right, Okay, you can't do that,
So you've got to make a standard for your company.
Now it is easier to share online Google Docs with
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other people and have them collaborate with you. But think
about if you're using confidential information, maybe you don't want
it online or you don't want it in the cloud.
I mean, think about that, all these breaches we talk
about in all that the minute you open your information
up to the cloud, it could be open season. So
(10:26):
I personally happen to be a fan of having a
software on my computer if I choose to share something online,
I do, but I rarely use Google Docs unless I'm
collaborating with somebody else.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
All right, let me play the other side of that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well, what happens if you get the blue screen of death,
or there's something which happens to your local drive and
you need to get that file, or you just happen
to be off site and you can't get access to
some of your most important information, which may be in
a document on your local drive.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Then I would absolutely recommend that you use something like
Microsoft three sixty five or Google Docs. But I back
up my work every day.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What about then, because we talk about Microsoft Office, that
also includes one drive which is their Cloud drive, which
is on just about every Microsoft MA ship.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Well and Goo Google Docs gives you fifteen gigs for
because you have Google Photos, you have fifteen gigs free
of storage, or Google one with like one hundred good whatever.
I pay twenty nine to ninety nine or something a
year for a whole bunch that I'll never use. But
the point is, you know, there is one other thing
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that Microsoft Office has that a lot of people think
is superior to anything, and that is Outlook. Ah. Yes,
Outlook is an excellent filebox. I mean I dropped Outlook
because I was sick of storing all that email.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I just hate the web version of Outlook because it
is that I don't get.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
It is the two factor authentication.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It takes more than a quick moment to log into
Outlook from the web browser. Now, if you have the
desktop version of it, Okay, it's fine, it's perfect, it's beautiful,
just like my home machine. I got that on my
home studio machine, which makes it very easy to interface
with the job. But if I'm trying to log in
on some other apparatus, I yeah, it takes a while.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It takes a while, but it is a preferred thing
that a lot of people want to do. And you know,
you talk about accessing things from other places. You really
tell me a spreadsheet, you really go read that on
your phone?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Sometimes I don't have the option.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I mean, honestly, I don't have the luxury sick for example,
if there is a spreadsheet I need to read in
those rare instances, it's not going to wait until I
get home at night, So it's going to be on
my laptop of tablet or my phone.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I can't necessarily see it all.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Right on your Laptop's fine, that's a big screen. I'm
talking about six inch phone.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
No, probably probably not. But if it has just some
basic information, Okay, basic inform. I'll give you perfect example.
I'll do it when I'm creating my invoices for my
television appearances and I'm sending in my invoice to X
Y or Z and that's done on Google sheets, which.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Is their x tales law. Absolutely, that's easy to do.
But it's not a complex spreadsheet I'm noticing. I mean,
there are books written about how to use Excel. That
is a massive program, and.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
My wife is very good at it. And I don't
need those complex Yeah. I don't need the complex, complex formulas.
I just need the sum Okay, just tally up this, right.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You just have some That's what I do for some
from B twelve to B twenty four.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
That's all I need. Simple, that's simple.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's all I need. Which is one. I use an
old version of Microsoft Office. I have bought one for
every computer, a single use home edition, like a single license. Yeah,
a single license is all legit. I mean, like I'm
into twenty nineteen. You know why, because I don't need
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any of those extra bells and whistles.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's always there. I can with the new things on
Android to APC, I can access data share data through
my Google Drive. Yeah, look we can.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
They can save it in any file format you need,
if it's a rich text or a doc or a PDF.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
That's all I need for the most part.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
But if you've ever had a deadline, an absolute deadline,
and had a power outage and your computer reboots. You
talked about the blue screen of death. I've only seen
those three times in my life, and I was on
the original IBM PC like you, so they're pretty rare.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
They're rare.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
But also, since we're making this comparison, and I know
you know this, but I know for someone who might
be thinking, right, hey, I can access my documents Google
documents offline, I could just make it where it's available
offline in the event that I lose my Internet access.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
That's what I'm saying. It all depends what you want
to do, what you're comfortable with. You're comfortable with an iPhone,
you're comfortable with an Android. It's there's your choice. It's
the same choice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
For me, it's the ecosystem where I know that everything
is the same, and it's all with unders under the
same umbrella.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And that's what Apple people say. They like their ecosystem,
and their ecosystem has never played nice with Android.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Never.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
The new intro of RCS, which is a special messaging
service that has come with the new software for iPhones,
e't working so good for those who don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Let's say you one of your friends in the text
group has an Android and everyone else has an iPhone.
You will notice that the Android person has the green bubble,
and if you're trying to share videos, it'll come in
pixel it.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
They deliberately pixel it on them, right, No, that's the
way it is. But the thing is like when you
like heart somebody else's thing, or you thumbs up somebody
else's text is a pleasant experience on the Android side.
Who uses pure RCS and RCS is an open system.
They have offered it to Apple, and Apple says they
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are incorporating it. But from what I see on the
other end, it ain't happening. So let's get back to
the story real quick. Now, it has been announced that
Microsoft has figured out you probably want your single use
copy and you can. Now you can buy it on
Microsoft Microsoft's website or on Amazon, no subscription required. Microsoft
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off is twenty twenty four and that's meant for private
users and or students. Costs one hundred and forty nine
ninety nine. That's reasonable, can be installed on a single
Windows PC or Mac computer. Not a problem. It's uh,
you know, has everything you want except Outlook, which is
(17:23):
just fine with me because basically all I use. I mean,
I think I've used power Point three times in my life.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
But also there are Outlook alternatives out there which work
just fine because I use.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Gmail, so hello, yeah, I have folders in gmails. So
if you want for ninety for ninety nine ninety nine,
oh excuse me, one nine one forty nine. No, what
I was going to say is Microsoft three sixty five
you can get for nine ninety nine up to six installs.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
As in nine hundred and ninety nine dollars. No, ninety
nine ninety nine ninety nine ninety lots of nine.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I just want to be clear, okay.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, ninety nine ninety nine you can get up to
six installs of Microsoft Office three sixty five, which will
you will have to pay again in another year and
another year. So it's subscription based. It's subscription based, but
you'll have to It will update all by itself. You
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don't have to worry about buying a new version or anything.
But the one. The version of Microsoft Office that you
get Outlook with is one hundred and forty nine ninety nine.
I love the ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Don't you just like a gas station ninety nine and
nine tenths?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But I it's refreshing on one hand that you get
something which is not subscription based. In this world if
everything has to be a subscription, but you can see
everything is moving in that direction.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, I think, excuse me, moving back here. It's two
forty nine ninety nine and can be installed on a
single Windows PC. So that's a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
That's still more pricing that, but that.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Outlook is a real hook to people. That is something
that people really want. I like my single install and
what I really recommend you do if you don't use
all the fancy stuff, because Microsoft Office is a great product,
either try Google Docs or go onto Amazon or eBay
(19:24):
and get a sealed version of a twenty nineteen. It's
going to be so much cheaper. It's going to be
way under one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Or if you like me, just get a free copy
of Gimp. But that's just me.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, there's that too, Okay. I try not to be technical.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Mo.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I love talking tech with you every week.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I love having you in the studio every single week.
And are you coming to the party next week?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I am? I am. Do you have your costume ready? Yes?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
And I'm not telling what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I was told by several people that what my choice
had been was inappropriate, so I had to make a
different choice.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Okay, that's between you and those individuals.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So it wasn't my husband. He liked it. I'm definitely
gonna leave that alone now.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
But we will see you next week at the Lady
with mo Kelly pre Halloween swore.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We'll be there with bells and whistles.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I'll see you see this later with mo Kelly CAFI
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Speaker 1 (20:19):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And social media goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway.
Social media has changed every facet of our lives and
we happen upon new situations because of social media and
we couldn't have foreseen them happening, Stefan, do you have
any friends who share a social media account? Boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Who share them? Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Not since like seven years ago. It's rare, right, yeah, Mark?
Do you know of anyone a couple who may share
an account? Like I have friends, husband and wife. I
don't want to use their names. Let's say Alice and John.
They have their account Sir Alice and John on Facebook
and Alice and John on Instagram and Alice and John
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on Twitter and threads.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
And it's weird to me.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
They do it as a symbol of their unity and
they have no secrets between each other.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I hope Alice and John have separate lawyers.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And that's the point that I'm coming to next, because
what happens if you have an account, a dual account,
and it has four million followers, which means you're monetizing it,
and there's probably some decent money flowing through it, and
for whatever reason, to use the Alice and John example,
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Alison and John get a divorce, who gets the account
and the four million followers which you've been monetizing for
however long? How do you separate that in a divorce.
And that's the story when I talk about Cat and
(22:14):
Mike Stickler. They filed for divorce and the lawyers realized
this problem. One of the biggest assets for the couple
was Mike and Kat Kat, a channel on TikTok and
YouTube in which they shared their lives with get it
four million followers, and the judge and the lawyers didn't
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know how to split that because it is an actual asset.
Social media was paying a lot of their bills and
they are influencers, and the lawyers were trying to figure
out not only a dollar amount as to the worth
of their TikTok account, but how do you divvy it
up when you're separating parsing assets, especially if it's not
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an amical, amicable divorce where you want to have that money.
Let's say you're mad at him or her for cheating
and he said no, no, no, I want the dog, I
want the cat, I want the house, and I want
the TikTok account.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
How do you divide it up? So that's how we
are as a country.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
You're going to have to struggle with what social media means,
how do you valuate it, and how do you divvy
it up? If in a situation like this where you
have competing interests and you want to be able to
take it for yourself. I don't know what the right
answer is, and I'm quite sure the lawyers will figure
(23:38):
it out along the way, but it gives you a
window into how relationships are changing, how valuation of assets
are changing.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
It's different from.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Saying, hey, we have a business, give me forty five
percent of the business or forty five percent of your pension.
That's where it has been historically. But now, when you
have social media and the monetary possibilities of social media,
it is not easy to get four million followers. Very
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very few people get four million followers on any of
these social media platforms. And also you can monetize that
in perpetuity. That is something to really fight over. It's
more than just a business. That is something as far
as largely passive income, you can use for the rest
of your life. And that's what most people aspire to
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do with social media. Very few are able to do it,
but most people are, you know, trying to do that.
And that's the other thing too, is let's say you
want to just go, okay, you get half, you get half,
But these are individual followers, so it's like, what if
they don't want to follow one or the other? Right,
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that's more of the problem. Do you split the account
and kill off the business or do you split the
revenue going forward?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
But what does it mean to split the revenue if.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The business was predicated on your relationship with each other,
your marriage, sharing your lives together. I guess the easiest
answer would be kill the account and whatever money is remaining,
you just portion that off and you know, fifty to
fifty or whatever the breakdown is, and you'd have to
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kill it all. But no one wants to kill the
golden goose. But how do you move forward? There is
such a thing as too much togetherness? Oh, I firmly
believe that.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I don't know about you and your beloved wife, but
suggestions at home that I team up on assorted projects
with the long suffering one. I care about her too
much to ever have her working with me on anything.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We have a joke, my wife and I we will
never wear the same outfit anywhere if it looks like
just by happens, dance like no, not even color coordinated.
It's just not something we'll do now. We will be
color complimentary, like if I'm wearing like at the wedding,
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she may have something which is brown based and I
was wearing blue and brown. But that's about as close
as it gets. We're not going to share. We're not
gonna walk down the street with the same shirt and
shorts or something like.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
You're not toddler's going to church, you know, but you're
matching each other as far as like the look, like
you said complimentary. Let me tell you when I during
the brief period, I was a bartender in grad school
at a big country nightclub and couples used to come
in wearing the matching Western shirts.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
My god, I want to see you do that with
your wife.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It will never happen. I want it so bad. You
can keep on wanting it and you'll never see it.
Because we've made a conscious decision. We've had this discussion
that we will never do that ever ever, because we
like to have our individual identities on some level, we
will My wife doesn't do social media, and the time
that she does social media, we weren't going to share
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anything nothing. You know, she doesn't even want me around
her phone. She doesn't want me around anything.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, it seems like working with your significant other is
just a recipe for doom and divorce and whatever happened
in that War of the Roses movie.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Look, I've never I like being able to let's say
work opposite my wife. She usually gets up at five
five thirty in the morning, she's out of the house
by seven am, and I'm not leaving for work until
two thirty three o'clock. She may not get home until
eight o'clock. When I get home, she's already asleep and
(27:43):
we'll catch up on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, we have.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Similar lives in that respect, but it works for us.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So it's not like we feel that we have to
marry punintended our lives every step of the way, not
saying that we're looking to get divorced, and so, you know,
it makes it easier for the divorce. I just think
that there's something to be said for having a degree
of separation folks. Couples spouses who have the same social
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media they share a social media account outside for business reasons,
and even that seems problematic.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's just weird to me.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's really really weird because my friends, I was telling
you about what example I use, like Alice and John or.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Something like Alison, Yeah, Alison, John Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
When I would hit them on Facebook, someone would say
like happy birthday, mo or something in an inbox message.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I said, is this Alice or John?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I don't know to whom I'm speaking.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
It's just weird because they both will use it to
message people, and I'm like, which one are you?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Can I get a hit? Can I buy a vow?
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I've never liked that. I've never liked the idea of
my friends relinquishing their identity when they hook up with somebody.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
That seems insane to me. And that's the thing too.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Back, Like I said, the last time I remember seeing
that was honestly right at the end of high school.
And that became like a trend for like a minute,
and it was like, what kind of like you said,
what kind of individuality do you have if you're just
sharing an account with them and they're not married, They're
just a couple. Look, I'm married, and I know two
(29:20):
flesh become one all that kind of stuff. I am
not sharing social media with my wife too.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Flesh become one? What is this a David Cronenberg movie?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
What are you? It's biblical? You know, it's part of
the oh that Oh you Heathen?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
All right, yeah, you busted me.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
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the only way you're gonna get in is through Tawalla Sharp.
And speaking of uh, Halloween and costumes, Stephan, have you
chosen your costume yet? Are you going to? Stephan? Uh? No,
(31:37):
I've got I've got mine. I'm not I'm not being
clever this year. I just wanted to be silly.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
No.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Look, I have to be functional and practical. Yeah, I
have to. I can't be worried about that. And it's like,
oh that's cool, Well all right, you're too, Yeah you're
this is no. I was like, I don't have time
to think. I'm not you know what, I'm just gonna
be silly this year. I'm not trying to win the contest.
I'm not trying to impress anybody. I got a show
to do to while. Have you chosen your costume?
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Oh yeah, I've already got it. I'm ready, Mark Roner,
What about you. I thought he's coming as a doctor
or Darth Vabe.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
He's coming as an obg y n Yeah. Oh that's right.
That's right, so he can have a mass mask on.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Okay, Well, since.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
We're talking about costumes, let's talk about Well, there are
twenty five costumes which are trending on Google, and then
we'll tell you about the top ten. But very quickly.
According to Google, these are the top costumes. Number twenty
five is Godzilla. See that seems like that would be
an issue, that'd be really cumbersome.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
That'd be a pain in the ass.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Can't go to the bathroom all, can't fit through doorways
and sit down, can't sit down, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Now, but people wear those dinosaur costumes.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
But still it just doesn't seem easy. Number twenty four
Soldier Boy. I have no idea why anyone would want
to go as soldier boy, but hey whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
No from uh from the boys, not the rapper.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh well, it'spelled the same way as a rapper. I
was gonna say soldier boys. Probably soldier boy doesn't say
soldier boy. Yeah, literally, soldia s o U l ja boy.
Oh that's the rappers. Yeah, hilarious.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I don't know. I don't know, Okay, yeah, uh.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Number twenty three Lydia Deets from Beetlejuice, Number twenty two,
Peeley from Fortnite, twenty one, Joy from Inside Out, twenty Shadow,
The Hedgehog nineteen, Minion eighteen, Dune.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
It's a movie, it's a book.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
If it's a character you can dress up as. Number
seventeen Gambit. That would be a good Halloween cos that's cool. Yeah,
you could do Gambit foos if I had times. Yeah,
you know, that's a lot of work too. It is
number sixteen. Diliadets from Beetlejuice fifteen Anxiety from inside Out.
Inside Out is gonna be very popular this Halloween season.
Number fourteen of course, Wolverine, you know Deadpool Wolverine. You
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gonna see claws everywhere thirteen discussed from inside Out, twelve,
Anger from Inside Out, Number eleven A Chipotle burrito, what
look I'm just reading it. Someone has to come as
a McDonald's quarter pounder with the sign saying like E
coli on the side.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Or maybe don't eat right, someone has to.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I give great credit for those who can weave in
contemporary news into their costumes.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Or someone as a burger, and then someone dying like
a husband and wife couple. See, that's way too much
damn effort. That's a lot of work that someone on
a gurney and a burger.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
No.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Look, someone someone who looks as if they like they
got like vomited on their mouth and they're dying.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
They got eight the phoning, Yeah, and then someone as
a burger, all right. Number ten Lady Deadpool, Yeah of course.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Number nine Sabrina Carpenter, easy, yeah. Number eight Doctor Doom
Yeah yeah, popular right now. Number seven read from Descendants.
Don't know that one, that's easy.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
My daughter loves that. Phone.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Number six env from Inside Out, Yeah, all the characters.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Number five don't know this one, so if I mess
it up, Oh well, Pomni from the Amazing Digital Circus.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Sure, yeah right wow.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Number four Dolores from Beetlejuice, Number three Cat Nap, and
number two I thought about this for all of three seconds,
and I said, everybody in their mama is going to
be this person ray Gun from the Olympics, The break Cancer. Yeah,
it's a simple costume, which means that everyone's going to
do it. And number one as far as the most
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google Halloween costume. Anyone want to make any guesses? Anyone? Anyone?
Bueler Bueller, Deadpool. Yeah, I think that's a great gear.
I was in the Wolverine, so Deadpool Wolverine. That makes sense,
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makes sense, But no, Deadpool is nowhere on the list
of about twenty five. Nowhere on the list. Wow, shrunken
head Bob from Beetlejuice. That's too much work, way too
much work, way way too much work. Now, I can
understand why people would want to, but that's not something
I would ever pursue.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
So it's basically between Inside Out and Beetlejuice.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I thought there would be well, this doesn't confirm anything,
but I thought there would be more Deadpool esque characters. Yeah,
because you could be a different all the different Deadpools. Yeah,
nice Pool, any Pool.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And in the spirit of mean girls, how you know
that's when girls get to dress up however, they want
joy from inside out and Lady Deadpool totally makes sense
for girls. If I didn't have to do a radio show,
I would do Blade, but the prosthetics would get in
the way.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, that's all. That'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
What prosthetics, Hobly, you gotta make it weird every single what.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Do you think?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
What prosthetics does Blade have? Okay, I'll play along his teeth, Oh,
the dentures?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
What did you think?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Never mind?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Never mind? Yeah, they call a Blade for another reason.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Don't put this on me. You're the one asking the question.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You say is mopool, I'll go his headpool? Wait what headpool?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
That's an actual oh the floating head Yeah, yes, yeah,
but you can just make up I mean, like I
could be Mark Pool fush Pool, but he's not making
it up.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
That's an assable character. Mark.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It would be the skull and everything. You know, it's
make believe though, right, we can just make stuff up.
You can't, but there has to be a point of references.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Otherwise it's like, you know, it's like a joke, knowing
gets Pool.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Come on, all four of us could wear matching stuff.
Why in the hell will we ever do that later pool.
You are really digaking the bottom this rim shot.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Look at the time. No, no, no, no, we're not
gonna look at ye.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Twalla is getting ready to die because it is cold.
He can't even laugh normally. He's out of air. It's
gonna suffocate. His death will not be on my conscience.
This is on you. No, it's on daylight saving time. Okay,
it's later.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
No, no, don't laugh, because that means he has to
give him a rim shot. He doesn't deserve one.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Does have been devalued anyway, It doesn't make any difference.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
See can't I am six forty we're live everywhere in
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
What the hell is going on? Well, we're about to
tell you. K I and the KOs t HD two
Los Angeles range live everywhere on the radio.
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It is Tech Thursday, so that means that Marsha Collier
joins us in studio. Marsha, you look radiant. It's always
good to see you. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Oh, I'm fine. I'm fine. You know not. I work alone.
I don't catch colds.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Well, that's not bad, that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I remember having a discussion with you about the Apple
Vision Pro. You were in here at night when we
had a friend who works in tech. He has his
own video virtual reality production company, Adam Contrast, and we
all got a chance to check out the Apple Vision Pro.
We remember that it was very heavy, clunky, and none
(00:45):
of us thought that it was going to be a
mover or a shaker in the world of tech. What
has happened since that.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Time, Well, first of all, Apple figured they were going
to sell eight hundred thousand of these in a year.
That was their target. I wonder who said that, And
if you remember, I do believe that Adam returned his
Yes he did, Yeah, he did. As of July twelfth,
they've only sold three hundred thousand, and there's no numbers
(01:15):
on that return policy as to how many have been returned,
but they're very disappointed about it, and just disappointed, you know,
I personally wonder is this something people really need to
spend three five hundred dollars on.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, here's always been the problem for me and Apple
with the proprietary technology. It's not in an ecosystem by
and large where there was enough software, enough apps for
people to use. It didn't play well with any other
virtual reality of technology which was out there, and so
(01:57):
I thought it had limited appeal that is now been
born out. But also sometimes great technology and I'm not
saying it was great, but it doesn't matter. How great
technology can roundbreaking, groundbreaking, Yeah, it doesn't always connect with people.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, the thing is none of the developers obviously were
excited enough to do apps for it, and that was
one of the problems. How much could you do with it?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Very little from what I could tell what people had
told me exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And I don't know how this is going to affect
their stock or anything else. But they're saying they're going
to make a lot less of them in twenty twenty five,
and they're going to have a price of two thousand
dollars and it will ditch the Vision pros faster processor,
and it'll have more premium build materials.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I was talking with a friend earlier today and they
were remembering the fight between VHS and Beta, and it
got me thinking about this. Beta was the superior video
delivery system as far as picture clarity and technology.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Absolutely, Sony rocks.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I had a Sony Beta mix, but VHS was the
more pervasive and available technology to a certain point where
movie studios were only creating the video content for VHS
and Beta fell off the scene. I think this might
be something similar where the Vision pro might be a
superior product but there's limited apps for it.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, you know, basic marketing one oh one. The first
thing I have to do when I write a book
is I have to put a little paragraph about marketing
in the proposal. And if there isn't a big enough
market for it, Apple has to do something new because
(03:52):
they have their people in the iPhone universe. There are
people who go back and forth between Android and Apple.
But Apple is no longer the exclusive, elegant device that
was yards and yards ahead of anything else, as they
claimed in the day. I'm not saying if they were
(04:13):
or not, but hey, I love my iPod. You know,
I traveled with it all the time. It was a
great product. So they're looking for something else, and you
know what, that's because Wall Street, because stockholders, And that's where,
in my view, companies lose their vision.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Beyond losing vision, I think a fair assessment. I think
a non tech genius could have realized, hey, this is
a really expensive piece of technology which doesn't have a
lot of utility in other words, few apps, and it's
only going to be attracted to a very small niche
segment of the tech buying public. I think anybody could
(04:56):
have realized that.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, you could realize it because there used to be
another device and I don't remember who made it, but
it looked exactly not exactly like and you would put
your phone inside of it to make it work. It
was a headset. Now that is a much less expensive solution,
and you don't see him making that anymore either.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I remember you had talked about how you had used
Google Glass for your wedding. Yeah, I thought that was
a superior piece of technology, but it didn't catch on.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Sometimes it can be great.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Early, Yes, it was just way too early. I mean
people were calling people glassholes and all kinds of things
because they hadn't seen stuff like that before.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Do you remember, I can't remember what it was called,
but IBM had a similar piece of technology that never
got to the consumer market. But they even had commercials
for some guys sitting on the bench using what seemed
to be an early version of what would be Google Glass.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It never caught on.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Okay, we can go all the way back to the
original cell phone. Remember that giant block. Oh got your
cell phone? Yeah? I think it was Motorola.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
It was about the size of a shoebox.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Shoebox, Yes, it was a shoebox.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Easy and oftentimes technology early adopters are not the ones
who benefit most from it.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You can think of any like Motorola.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Obviously, with phones, they're not the industry leader anymore, and
they haven't been for quite some time. You can go
back to like Magell and GPS. They're not the industry
leader exactly. No, but Google Glass isn't dead. There's a
new There are new versions, and they're made for different industries.
For example, you have a new guy working on a
(06:36):
car line manufacturing cars. He forgets exactly what to do
you flip on these the Google Glass and it shows
the engine and what goes where, and it instructs them.
I tried them on the industrial versions made a lot of.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Sense, Well, there is your utility.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It had an audience there, but not the wider consumer
market exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But then again, even for its time, it was fifty
I was one of them, one of the people. I
was invited and I paid fifteen hundred dollars. I don't
know what I was thinking, but I was. But I
got to go to Google headquarters. Novel. But yeah, no,
thirty five hundred dollars is just too much to come
out with in last year's economy, when things were just
(07:21):
starting to slide and people were looking at a brand
new iPhone, they realized they came out with it with
lots of other products. Now you got to target what
you're going to sell the customer and what you want
to sell a lot of and.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
People have to make a decision.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Am I going to buy this now one thousand dollar
phone or you're asking me to buy the thousand dollar
phone and a three thousand dollars Apple Vision Pro. You know,
people are going to have to make a decision because
they know that a new version is going to come
out next year.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Speaking of I know you wear a health ring, health
fitness ring.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Or risk of pixel watch, No I don't. I don't
wear an ora. This is just a silicon. Okay, looks
like one. But anyway, the new version has to be resized.
You are forced to buy a new one.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Hell, they're not cheap to begin with.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Right, except they are four hundred dollars. I believe the
Aura also has a subscription you have to pay for. Okay,
when I go to CBS this year, I promise you
I'm going to look deep into that stuff so we
can figure that out. Speaking of subscriptions.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
When we come back on the other side, let's talk
about Microsoft Office. It used to be the thing that
everyone had to have, but now there's so many alternatives,
free alternatives. It makes you wonder whether Microsoft Office is
still a requirement.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Don't tell me now, No, I won't.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
We're going to talk about that when we get back.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's Later with mo Kelly. Marsha Collier joins me in studio.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty mo.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Kelly Alive Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app on this Tech Thursday,
Marcia Collier continues to join me in studio. Marsha, I'm
a guy who grew up on IBM machines. I say
that to say Microsoft Office was inextricably linked to everything
I had to do, from Excel, word, whatever you needed
(09:22):
Microsoft Office back in the day. Now there are free
alternatives which do just about everything that Microsoft Office does.
You can get on Google Drive and use Google Docs.
It does just about everything. Where is Microsoft Office in
today's world?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Well, in my opinion, I mean, let's talk about this.
Each company has to make their decisions to their standard.
You can't have half your people using Microsoft and half
your people using Google Docs, right, Okay, you can't do that,
So you've got to make a standard for your company.
Now it is easier to share online Google Docs with
(10:00):
other people and have them collaborate with you. But think
about if you're using confidential information, maybe you don't want
it online or you don't want it in the cloud.
I mean, think about that, all these breaches we talk
about in all that the minute you open your information
up to the cloud, it could be open season. So
(10:26):
I personally happen to be a fan of having a
software on my computer if I choose to share something online,
I do, but I rarely use Google Docs unless I'm
collaborating with somebody else.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
All right, let me play the other side of that.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well, what happens if you get the blue screen of death,
or there's something which happens to your local drive and
you need to get that file, or you just happen
to be off site and you can't get access to
some of your most important information, which may be in
a document on your local drive.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Then I would absolutely recommend that you use something like
Microsoft three sixty five or Google Docs. But I back
up my work every day.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What about then, because we talk about Microsoft Office, that
also includes one drive which is their Cloud drive, which
is on just about every Microsoft MA ship.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Well and Goo Google Docs gives you fifteen gigs for
because you have Google Photos, you have fifteen gigs free
of storage, or Google one with like one hundred good whatever.
I pay twenty nine to ninety nine or something a
year for a whole bunch that I'll never use. But
the point is, you know, there is one other thing
(11:39):
that Microsoft Office has that a lot of people think
is superior to anything, and that is Outlook. Ah. Yes,
Outlook is an excellent filebox. I mean I dropped Outlook
because I was sick of storing all that email.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I just hate the web version of Outlook because it
is that I don't get.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
It is the two factor authentication.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It takes more than a quick moment to log into
Outlook from the web browser. Now, if you have the
desktop version of it, Okay, it's fine, it's perfect, it's beautiful,
just like my home machine. I got that on my
home studio machine, which makes it very easy to interface
with the job. But if I'm trying to log in
on some other apparatus, I yeah, it takes a while.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It takes a while, but it is a preferred thing
that a lot of people want to do. And you know,
you talk about accessing things from other places. You really
tell me a spreadsheet, you really go read that on
your phone?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Sometimes I don't have the option.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I mean, honestly, I don't have the luxury sick for example,
if there is a spreadsheet I need to read in
those rare instances, it's not going to wait until I
get home at night, So it's going to be on
my laptop of tablet or my phone.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I can't necessarily see it all.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Right on your Laptop's fine, that's a big screen. I'm
talking about six inch phone.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
No, probably probably not. But if it has just some
basic information, Okay, basic inform. I'll give you perfect example.
I'll do it when I'm creating my invoices for my
television appearances and I'm sending in my invoice to X
Y or Z and that's done on Google sheets, which.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Is their x tales law. Absolutely, that's easy to do.
But it's not a complex spreadsheet I'm noticing. I mean,
there are books written about how to use Excel. That
is a massive program, and.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
My wife is very good at it. And I don't
need those complex Yeah. I don't need the complex, complex formulas.
I just need the sum Okay, just tally up this, right.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You just have some That's what I do for some
from B twelve to B twenty four.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
That's all I need. Simple, that's simple.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's all I need. Which is one. I use an
old version of Microsoft Office. I have bought one for
every computer, a single use home edition, like a single license. Yeah,
a single license is all legit. I mean, like I'm
into twenty nineteen. You know why, because I don't need
(14:20):
any of those extra bells and whistles.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's always there. I can with the new things on
Android to APC, I can access data share data through
my Google Drive. Yeah, look we can.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
They can save it in any file format you need,
if it's a rich text or a doc or a PDF.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
That's all I need for the most part.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
But if you've ever had a deadline, an absolute deadline,
and had a power outage and your computer reboots. You
talked about the blue screen of death. I've only seen
those three times in my life, and I was on
the original IBM PC like you, so they're pretty rare.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
They're rare.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
But also, since we're making this comparison, and I know
you know this, but I know for someone who might
be thinking, right, hey, I can access my documents Google
documents offline, I could just make it where it's available
offline in the event that I lose my Internet access.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
That's what I'm saying. It all depends what you want
to do, what you're comfortable with. You're comfortable with an iPhone,
you're comfortable with an Android. It's there's your choice. It's
the same choice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
For me, it's the ecosystem where I know that everything
is the same, and it's all with unders under the
same umbrella.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And that's what Apple people say. They like their ecosystem,
and their ecosystem has never played nice with Android.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Never.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
The new intro of RCS, which is a special messaging
service that has come with the new software for iPhones,
e't working so good for those who don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Let's say you one of your friends in the text
group has an Android and everyone else has an iPhone.
You will notice that the Android person has the green bubble,
and if you're trying to share videos, it'll come in
pixel it.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
They deliberately pixel it on them, right, No, that's the
way it is. But the thing is like when you
like heart somebody else's thing, or you thumbs up somebody
else's text is a pleasant experience on the Android side.
Who uses pure RCS and RCS is an open system.
They have offered it to Apple, and Apple says they
(16:38):
are incorporating it. But from what I see on the
other end, it ain't happening. So let's get back to
the story real quick. Now, it has been announced that
Microsoft has figured out you probably want your single use
copy and you can. Now you can buy it on
Microsoft Microsoft's website or on Amazon, no subscription required. Microsoft
(17:03):
off is twenty twenty four and that's meant for private
users and or students. Costs one hundred and forty nine
ninety nine. That's reasonable, can be installed on a single
Windows PC or Mac computer. Not a problem. It's uh,
you know, has everything you want except Outlook, which is
(17:23):
just fine with me because basically all I use. I mean,
I think I've used power Point three times in my life.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
But also there are Outlook alternatives out there which work
just fine because I use.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Gmail, so hello, yeah, I have folders in gmails. So
if you want for ninety for ninety nine ninety nine,
oh excuse me, one nine one forty nine. No, what
I was going to say is Microsoft three sixty five
you can get for nine ninety nine up to six installs.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
As in nine hundred and ninety nine dollars. No, ninety
nine ninety nine ninety nine ninety lots of nine.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I just want to be clear, okay.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, ninety nine ninety nine you can get up to
six installs of Microsoft Office three sixty five, which will
you will have to pay again in another year and
another year. So it's subscription based. It's subscription based, but
you'll have to It will update all by itself. You
(18:25):
don't have to worry about buying a new version or anything.
But the one. The version of Microsoft Office that you
get Outlook with is one hundred and forty nine ninety nine.
I love the ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Don't you just like a gas station ninety nine and
nine tenths?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
But I it's refreshing on one hand that you get
something which is not subscription based. In this world if
everything has to be a subscription, but you can see
everything is moving in that direction.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, I think, excuse me, moving back here. It's two
forty nine ninety nine and can be installed on a
single Windows PC. So that's a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
That's still more pricing that, but that.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Outlook is a real hook to people. That is something
that people really want. I like my single install and
what I really recommend you do if you don't use
all the fancy stuff, because Microsoft Office is a great product,
either try Google Docs or go onto Amazon or eBay
(19:24):
and get a sealed version of a twenty nineteen. It's
going to be so much cheaper. It's going to be
way under one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Or if you like me, just get a free copy
of Gimp. But that's just me.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, there's that too, Okay. I try not to be technical.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Mo.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I love talking tech with you every week.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I love having you in the studio every single week.
And are you coming to the party next week?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I am? I am. Do you have your costume ready? Yes?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
And I'm not telling what it is.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I was told by several people that what my choice
had been was inappropriate, so I had to make a
different choice.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Okay, that's between you and those individuals.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So it wasn't my husband. He liked it. I'm definitely
gonna leave that alone now.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
But we will see you next week at the Lady
with mo Kelly pre Halloween swore.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We'll be there with bells and whistles.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I'll see you see this later with mo Kelly CAFI
AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And social media goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway.
Social media has changed every facet of our lives and
we happen upon new situations because of social media and
we couldn't have foreseen them happening, Stefan, do you have
any friends who share a social media account? Boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Who share them? Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Not since like seven years ago. It's rare, right, yeah, Mark?
Do you know of anyone a couple who may share
an account? Like I have friends, husband and wife. I
don't want to use their names. Let's say Alice and John.
They have their account Sir Alice and John on Facebook
and Alice and John on Instagram and Alice and John
(21:14):
on Twitter and threads.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
And it's weird to me.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
They do it as a symbol of their unity and
they have no secrets between each other.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I hope Alice and John have separate lawyers.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And that's the point that I'm coming to next, because
what happens if you have an account, a dual account,
and it has four million followers, which means you're monetizing it,
and there's probably some decent money flowing through it, and
for whatever reason, to use the Alice and John example,
(21:53):
Alison and John get a divorce, who gets the account
and the four million followers which you've been monetizing for
however long? How do you separate that in a divorce.
And that's the story when I talk about Cat and
(22:14):
Mike Stickler. They filed for divorce and the lawyers realized
this problem. One of the biggest assets for the couple
was Mike and Kat Kat, a channel on TikTok and
YouTube in which they shared their lives with get it
four million followers, and the judge and the lawyers didn't
(22:34):
know how to split that because it is an actual asset.
Social media was paying a lot of their bills and
they are influencers, and the lawyers were trying to figure
out not only a dollar amount as to the worth
of their TikTok account, but how do you divvy it
up when you're separating parsing assets, especially if it's not
(23:00):
an amical, amicable divorce where you want to have that money.
Let's say you're mad at him or her for cheating
and he said no, no, no, I want the dog, I
want the cat, I want the house, and I want
the TikTok account.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
How do you divide it up? So that's how we
are as a country.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
You're going to have to struggle with what social media means,
how do you valuate it, and how do you divvy
it up? If in a situation like this where you
have competing interests and you want to be able to
take it for yourself. I don't know what the right
answer is, and I'm quite sure the lawyers will figure
(23:38):
it out along the way, but it gives you a
window into how relationships are changing, how valuation of assets
are changing.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
It's different from.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Saying, hey, we have a business, give me forty five
percent of the business or forty five percent of your pension.
That's where it has been historically. But now, when you
have social media and the monetary possibilities of social media,
it is not easy to get four million followers. Very
(24:11):
very few people get four million followers on any of
these social media platforms. And also you can monetize that
in perpetuity. That is something to really fight over. It's
more than just a business. That is something as far
as largely passive income, you can use for the rest
of your life. And that's what most people aspire to
(24:33):
do with social media. Very few are able to do it,
but most people are, you know, trying to do that.
And that's the other thing too, is let's say you
want to just go, okay, you get half, you get half,
But these are individual followers, so it's like, what if
they don't want to follow one or the other? Right,
(24:54):
that's more of the problem. Do you split the account
and kill off the business or do you split the
revenue going forward?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
But what does it mean to split the revenue if.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The business was predicated on your relationship with each other,
your marriage, sharing your lives together. I guess the easiest
answer would be kill the account and whatever money is remaining,
you just portion that off and you know, fifty to
fifty or whatever the breakdown is, and you'd have to
(25:27):
kill it all. But no one wants to kill the
golden goose. But how do you move forward? There is
such a thing as too much togetherness? Oh, I firmly
believe that.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I don't know about you and your beloved wife, but
suggestions at home that I team up on assorted projects
with the long suffering one. I care about her too
much to ever have her working with me on anything.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We have a joke, my wife and I we will
never wear the same outfit anywhere if it looks like
just by happens, dance like no, not even color coordinated.
It's just not something we'll do now. We will be
color complimentary, like if I'm wearing like at the wedding,
(26:13):
she may have something which is brown based and I
was wearing blue and brown. But that's about as close
as it gets. We're not going to share. We're not
gonna walk down the street with the same shirt and
shorts or something like.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
You're not toddler's going to church, you know, but you're
matching each other as far as like the look, like
you said complimentary. Let me tell you when I during
the brief period, I was a bartender in grad school
at a big country nightclub and couples used to come
in wearing the matching Western shirts.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
My god, I want to see you do that with
your wife.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It will never happen. I want it so bad. You
can keep on wanting it and you'll never see it.
Because we've made a conscious decision. We've had this discussion
that we will never do that ever ever, because we
like to have our individual identities on some level, we
will My wife doesn't do social media, and the time
that she does social media, we weren't going to share
(27:07):
anything nothing. You know, she doesn't even want me around
her phone. She doesn't want me around anything.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, it seems like working with your significant other is
just a recipe for doom and divorce and whatever happened
in that War of the Roses movie.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Look, I've never I like being able to let's say
work opposite my wife. She usually gets up at five
five thirty in the morning, she's out of the house
by seven am, and I'm not leaving for work until
two thirty three o'clock. She may not get home until
eight o'clock. When I get home, she's already asleep and
(27:43):
we'll catch up on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, we have.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Similar lives in that respect, but it works for us.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So it's not like we feel that we have to
marry punintended our lives every step of the way, not
saying that we're looking to get divorced, and so, you know,
it makes it easier for the divorce. I just think
that there's something to be said for having a degree
of separation folks. Couples spouses who have the same social
(28:11):
media they share a social media account outside for business reasons,
and even that seems problematic.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's just weird to me.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It's really really weird because my friends, I was telling
you about what example I use, like Alice and John or.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Something like Alison, Yeah, Alison, John Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
When I would hit them on Facebook, someone would say
like happy birthday, mo or something in an inbox message.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I said, is this Alice or John?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I don't know to whom I'm speaking.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
It's just weird because they both will use it to
message people, and I'm like, which one are you?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Can I get a hit? Can I buy a vow?
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I've never liked that. I've never liked the idea of
my friends relinquishing their identity when they hook up with somebody.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
That seems insane to me. And that's the thing too.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Back, Like I said, the last time I remember seeing
that was honestly right at the end of high school.
And that became like a trend for like a minute,
and it was like, what kind of like you said,
what kind of individuality do you have if you're just
sharing an account with them and they're not married, They're
just a couple. Look, I'm married, and I know two
(29:20):
flesh become one all that kind of stuff. I am
not sharing social media with my wife too.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Flesh become one? What is this a David Cronenberg movie?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
What are you? It's biblical? You know, it's part of
the oh that Oh you Heathen?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
All right, yeah, you busted me.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
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Speaker 3 (29:50):
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Speaker 4 (30:11):
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Speaker 2 (30:13):
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to be able to hit you off if you were
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get some of the ticket to passes. The only way
(30:36):
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You can't call us up and say hey, can you
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Speaker 3 (30:50):
Now? We cannot do you a solid Can.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
You remember that thing we did for you? You know,
don't you owe us? No, we don't owe you. We
are not your friends when it comes to this. So
tomorrow is your final opportunity to win passes. You're gonna
meet all the people associated with the show, from Tiffany
Hobbs to Claudie and Cooper to Marcia Collier to Jackie Ray,
(31:15):
everybody who is connected to the show until some other
people who be in the house, probably some KFI person
now is you want to get down as well? But
the only way you're gonna get in is through Tawalla Sharp.
And speaking of uh, Halloween and costumes, Stephan, have you
chosen your costume yet? Are you going to? Stephan? Uh? No,
(31:37):
I've got I've got mine. I'm not I'm not being
clever this year. I just wanted to be silly.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
No.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Look, I have to be functional and practical. Yeah, I
have to. I can't be worried about that. And it's like,
oh that's cool, Well all right, you're too, Yeah you're
this is no. I was like, I don't have time
to think. I'm not you know what, I'm just gonna
be silly this year. I'm not trying to win the contest.
I'm not trying to impress anybody. I got a show
to do to while. Have you chosen your costume?
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Oh yeah, I've already got it. I'm ready, Mark Roner,
What about you. I thought he's coming as a doctor
or Darth Vabe.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
He's coming as an obg y n Yeah. Oh that's right.
That's right, so he can have a mass mask on.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Okay, Well, since.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
We're talking about costumes, let's talk about Well, there are
twenty five costumes which are trending on Google, and then
we'll tell you about the top ten. But very quickly.
According to Google, these are the top costumes. Number twenty
five is Godzilla. See that seems like that would be
an issue, that'd be really cumbersome.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
That'd be a pain in the ass.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Can't go to the bathroom all, can't fit through doorways
and sit down, can't sit down, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Now, but people wear those dinosaur costumes.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
But still it just doesn't seem easy. Number twenty four
Soldier Boy. I have no idea why anyone would want
to go as soldier boy, but hey whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
No from uh from the boys, not the rapper.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh well, it'spelled the same way as a rapper. I
was gonna say soldier boys. Probably soldier boy doesn't say
soldier boy. Yeah, literally, soldia s o U l ja boy.
Oh that's the rappers. Yeah, hilarious.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I don't know. I don't know, Okay, yeah, uh.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Number twenty three Lydia Deets from Beetlejuice, Number twenty two,
Peeley from Fortnite, twenty one, Joy from Inside Out, twenty Shadow,
The Hedgehog nineteen, Minion eighteen, Dune.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
It's a movie, it's a book.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
If it's a character you can dress up as. Number
seventeen Gambit. That would be a good Halloween cos that's cool. Yeah,
you could do Gambit foos if I had times. Yeah,
you know, that's a lot of work too. It is
number sixteen. Diliadets from Beetlejuice fifteen Anxiety from inside Out.
Inside Out is gonna be very popular this Halloween season.
Number fourteen of course, Wolverine, you know Deadpool Wolverine. You
(33:51):
gonna see claws everywhere thirteen discussed from inside Out, twelve,
Anger from Inside Out, Number eleven A Chipotle burrito, what
look I'm just reading it. Someone has to come as
a McDonald's quarter pounder with the sign saying like E
coli on the side.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Or maybe don't eat right, someone has to.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I give great credit for those who can weave in
contemporary news into their costumes.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Or someone as a burger, and then someone dying like
a husband and wife couple. See, that's way too much
damn effort. That's a lot of work that someone on
a gurney and a burger.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
No.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Look, someone someone who looks as if they like they
got like vomited on their mouth and they're dying.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
They got eight the phoning, Yeah, and then someone as
a burger, all right. Number ten Lady Deadpool, Yeah of course.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Number nine Sabrina Carpenter, easy, yeah. Number eight Doctor Doom
Yeah yeah, popular right now. Number seven read from Descendants.
Don't know that one, that's easy.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
My daughter loves that. Phone.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Number six env from Inside Out, Yeah, all the characters.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Number five don't know this one, so if I mess
it up, Oh well, Pomni from the Amazing Digital Circus.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Sure, yeah right wow.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Number four Dolores from Beetlejuice, Number three Cat Nap, and
number two I thought about this for all of three seconds,
and I said, everybody in their mama is going to
be this person ray Gun from the Olympics, The break Cancer. Yeah,
it's a simple costume, which means that everyone's going to
do it. And number one as far as the most
(35:29):
google Halloween costume. Anyone want to make any guesses? Anyone? Anyone?
Bueler Bueller, Deadpool. Yeah, I think that's a great gear.
I was in the Wolverine, so Deadpool Wolverine. That makes sense,
(35:54):
makes sense, But no, Deadpool is nowhere on the list
of about twenty five. Nowhere on the list. Wow, shrunken
head Bob from Beetlejuice. That's too much work, way too
much work, way way too much work. Now, I can
understand why people would want to, but that's not something
I would ever pursue.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
So it's basically between Inside Out and Beetlejuice.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I thought there would be well, this doesn't confirm anything,
but I thought there would be more Deadpool esque characters. Yeah,
because you could be a different all the different Deadpools. Yeah,
nice Pool, any Pool.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
And in the spirit of mean girls, how you know
that's when girls get to dress up however, they want
joy from inside out and Lady Deadpool totally makes sense
for girls. If I didn't have to do a radio show,
I would do Blade, but the prosthetics would get in
the way.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, that's all. That'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
What prosthetics, Hobly, you gotta make it weird every single what.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Do you think?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
What prosthetics does Blade have? Okay, I'll play along his teeth, Oh,
the dentures?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
What did you think?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Never mind?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Never mind? Yeah, they call a Blade for another reason.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Don't put this on me. You're the one asking the question.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You say is mopool, I'll go his headpool? Wait what headpool?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
That's an actual oh the floating head Yeah, yes, yeah,
but you can just make up I mean, like I
could be Mark Pool fush Pool, but he's not making
it up.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
That's an assable character. Mark.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It would be the skull and everything. You know, it's
make believe though, right, we can just make stuff up.
You can't, but there has to be a point of references.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Otherwise it's like, you know, it's like a joke, knowing
gets Pool.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Come on, all four of us could wear matching stuff.
Why in the hell will we ever do that later pool.
You are really digaking the bottom this rim shot.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Look at the time. No, no, no, no, we're not
gonna look at ye.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Twalla is getting ready to die because it is cold.
He can't even laugh normally. He's out of air. It's
gonna suffocate. His death will not be on my conscience.
This is on you. No, it's on daylight saving time. Okay,
it's later.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
No, no, don't laugh, because that means he has to
give him a rim shot. He doesn't deserve one.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Does have been devalued anyway, It doesn't make any difference.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
See can't I am six forty we're live everywhere in
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Speaker 3 (38:38):
What the hell is going on? Well, we're about to
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