October 29, 2024 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at a Southland tragedy involving a Juvenile’s death on a pocket bike…PLUS – Thoughts on the City of Hollywood banning ‘silly string’ on Halloween AND Gov. Newsom’s proposal to bolster film production in California - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Wow. Dodgers just wow.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I'm
in a pretty good mood given my Dodgers how they're
doing at the moment, up three to zero on the
top of the sixth inning. It's later with Mo Kelly
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of everything which is happening in New Yankee Stadium in
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Game three of the World Series. We had Game one
and that fantastic finish we told you about Friday Night.
I told you this was one of those series where
even if you're not a sports fan, and if you're
not even a Dodgers fan or a baseball fan, maybe
you're a fan of history. This is one of those
times where you do want to tune in because you
know history is being made right now and you don't
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want to miss it. You don't want to have to
go look for it on YouTube. You don't want to
have to hear about it from your friends. You want
to be there when it happens as it happens. So
right now, the Dodgers are still up three zero in
the top of the sixth inning, at New Yankee Stadium
and tonight we have a great show for you.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So much to talk about. Well, talk about that juvenile.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You might have heard about the story the juvenile who
was killed on one of those pocket bikes, those tidy motorcycles.
I have a personal anecdote just from yesterday which kind
of ties into that whole story on a larger level.
And did you know that Hollywood is banning silly string
on Halloween?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Talk about un American? How can you ban silly string?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There is nothing more necessary for Halloween than silly.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, I don't know about that, but it's really important.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And Governor Newsom you might have heard by now Governor
Newsom and also Mayor Bass, they've unveiled a proposal to
bolster California film production. I don't know if it's too little,
too late, but they're going to try to lure back
some of these movie studio productions. And I'm quite sure
Twala and Mark will weigh in on that as we
continue to follow the business of filmmaking. And I don't
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know if anyone took the dive and tried to see
venus excuse me, Venom the last dance.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Mark, did you did you I would have gone to
Venice the last dance, but no way in hell was
I wasting time and money on that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, we got the box office numbers, and it seems
like we cannot actually be mad at Sony because they said, yes,
it's trash, we're putting out trash, but trash is making
us money, and so who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It may not be the end of the saga. Lucky us.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You know how they did like the Final Friday of
the Last Friday, thirteenth and something like that. Then all
of a sudden they had like another three. Yeah, that'll
never end.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I'm actually a fan of when they got when they
just decided they didn't care, and they care.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
They put one in space.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Right, and you get to the point where I think,
you know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
They're self aware.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
They said the Fast Andiest Franchise was a perfect example.
After a certain point, you realize, you know what, let's
stop trying to make serious movies and let's just go
out and make money.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, just blow stuff up, kill people whatever. They stop
pretending it's anything but stimulus.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Right, we have a core demographic they like what it is.
We're not gonna win any awards we're not gonna get
any critical acclaim.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
By the way, Dodgers just scored another run for zero.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Just go with the money making aspect of it all,
because we're in the business of making money.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
We're not in the business of winning awards.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes, we'd like to win awards, but to win awards
that means we would make more money.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
So we're just trying to make money however we can. Yeah, Friday,
I referred to the movie as a product. And when
I say that, just to be clear, that's an insult.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh okay, I've heard nothing good about this movie, nothing
not from anybody who.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Has seen it.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I can't imagine the kind of brain damage it would
take for me, Like if I had long COVID or something,
what would it take for me to willingly go to this,
sit through it, and enjoy it. And you know, we
haven't seen it, so this is all, you know, hypothesis.
But based on the first two, I think we're pretty safe,
assuming that it's a number two.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I am conflicted in this way because as a kid
growing up, not that I was a comic book kid,
but I was always a Spider Man kid. I knew
that lore through and through, and one of my favorite
villains in the Spider Man universe.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Actually, the favorite villain was Venom.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Really, of the few books that I was reading, Venom
was always a part of it. So when he finally
got to the big screen in Uh Spider three, I'm thinking, like, yes,
finally they messed it up then because they had him
share the screen with Sandman, And I said, wait a minute,
Venom deserves his own, you know, place in the.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Movie as a villain. Oh, they screwed up sand Man two, right, right?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I said, Then I saw there doing Tom Hardy
and Venom's own movie. It's like, well, that's kind of strange.
I was intrigued because I'm thinking, well, it is Venom
his own movie, but how can you have Venom without
Spider Man is kind of a packaged deal. It didn't
make sense. And then I saw the movie. It's like, Okay,
this is just stupid. It made no sense. It destroyed
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the whole idea of why Venom was there, his whole
point of being there. How he was transfixed with Spider Man,
who doesn't exist, and it just didn't make any sense.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Well, they're coming out with a craven movie too, that
another Spider Man villain getting his whole movie, a whole
movie to himself that no one asked for anywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
That goes back to just making money.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Sony has decided we're gonna use all the rogues gallery
in the Spider Man pantheon and just say Craven Morbius,
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Venom, just give them all movies.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
These guys are suckers enough they will see enough of them,
will go see the movie where it will be financially
worthwhile for us.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That's all they're doing.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They're not trying to make the MCU Marvel money, but
they can turn a profit on these because these are
relatively inexpensive quote unquote superhero anti hero movies.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I spent a good portion of last week taunting Tuala
that they should make an Enforcer's movie with the Ox
and Fancy Dan and whatever the guy's name is, with
the Lariat, just like the lamest, oldest villains. Somebody's gonna
do it. We're joking about it now, but it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But they were already talking about doing the Senator Sinister
six movie.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, so I mean, yeah, they don't.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's almost like we don't need no stinking Spider Man.
We'll just make up our own movies and our own
lord and our own source material now.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And just to be clear, this Venam movie fell short
of the sixty five million bucks that it was projected
to make. It made fifty one million. That ain't nothing, no,
because I think the butchets like one hundred and twenty million.
I think it made its money back in his first week.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
But the fact that enough humans I know marched into
this and paid fifty one million bucks doesn't say great
things about humanity.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And it's made it very clear that they know how
dumb humanity is and they're going to.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Cash it in.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You'll somebody smarter than us once said, you'll never go broke,
underestimating the intelligence of people.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
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Speaker 4 (07:36):
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Speaker 2 (07:42):
And there was a minor, unfortunately on a mini bike
who was killed by a hit and run driver early
this morning. And the crash occurred near Olympic Boulevard and
at a rapp A ho Yeah, a Rappa Hose Street
around one thirty am. Bonding officers found the identified unidentified
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male mini bike rider down at the scene and he
was pronounced dead at the scene. His identity is also
being withheld pending family notification. And if you don't know
the mini bikes, they are like two types of mini bikes.
There are the actual mini motorcycle looking mini bikes, and
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they're also these kind of like go kart style.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Miniature motorcycles.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
They have go kart wheels and they have a lawnmower engine.
And depending on what neighbor your neighborhood you're riding or
driving through, you can find them. They look like toys,
but they're not high tech. And yesterday, the reason I'm
talking about this is this is something which is really
prevalent in my neighborhood, and I think you might have
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seen this as well, Stefan. There were some thirty to
forty of these many bike riders and they're all aged
between let's say thirteen in twenty three, mostly miners, who
were doing almost a street takeover. I was on Western
Avenue at Rosecranz. I was going north on Western getting
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ready to pass through rosecrans I had the green and
you had like thirty to forty were making an legal
left turn. They said, ef itt, We're all just gonna go.
At the same time, people are screaming through the intersection
because it's a full on green. It's not like they're
trying to beat the light or anything. They're just gonna
say no, we're not gonna wait. And they were daring
us to hit them, as if we wouldn't because they
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just thought that we wouldn't hit them. You know, if
I were ten years younger, I probably would have, but
I didn't, and I stopped, and I was trying to
flag down other drivers, like slow down. These fools are
determined to go through the intersection. And this was about
six pm yesterday at Rosecrans and Western and they were
turning east on Rosecrans. I'm not saying this is one
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in the same, but I think it's one of those
things where or people will go cruising on crunch on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
It's one of the things.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Because they there's no way they all were just happened
happening to be in the same place. Obviously this is
something they do as a group and get into mischief
for whatever. But some of them were the real verifiable
mini bikes and some of the homemade kind of go
kart bikes, if you know what I mean, with the
with the go cart wheels on them and everything, which
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are completely illegal. It's just like a little frame and
an engine, that's all it is. And this is something
I've been seeing more and more of.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Have you seen them, Stefan, I haven't seen that, but
where my parents live on that block, at least every
other weekend, you'd always hear at least four or five
going by, And you know it's the for me, I know,
it's always the homemade ones. Yeah, the homemade ones, because
it's so loud. It's louder than like an actual motorcycle,
because it's like you said, it's like a lawnmower engine. Yeah,
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there's no muffler anything, no, So it's just like they're
flying there all the way at the end of the block.
I can still hear them like it's insane how.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Loud they are, and almost let's say, none of them
are wearing helmets, none of them, not a one. And
the reason I mention that is because when I see
that a miner on a mini bike was struck and killed,
it says, yeah, I believe that I believe that if
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there's any commonality in this, I see a lot of
miners riding these things. I see a lot of them
riding without helmets. And I see a lot of them
riding without helmets and intentionally disobeying traffic laws.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And here's something else. Let's say you drive an suv.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Your center of horizon, as I call it, your line
of sight is much higher than these little ass mini bikes.
You couldn't see them if you wanted to, even if
you want to avoid them, even if you're following the
rules of the road, they are so low. If you
are not I'm not consciously aware of them, talking about
the how loud they are. If you don't hear them
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and connect that to what that likely is, you could
very easily end up in an accident with them because
you just can't see them.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And they scared the crap.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Out of me, because it's like, look, if I were
not paying attention, if I were distracted driving and legally
and rightfully going through that intersection at Western and Rosecrans yesterday,
I would have cleaned out at least six to seven
of them, six to seven different people ranging in age
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as I think, from thirteen to twenty three, and it
wouldn't have been my fault per se, but I would
not have want that on my conscience or anyone else's conscience.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So I say that this.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm actually surprised about a miner on a mini bike
being killed by a hit and run driver. And this
is not to excuse the hit and run driver. I
don't know all the specifics, but I do know that
these many by do pose a problem for drivers, even
under the best of circumstances. And this says the suspect
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vehicle was traveling eastbound on the Olympic when it hit
the juvenile. We don't know exactly as far as what
the mini bike was doing, whether it was within the
bounds of the law or what. We don't have a
lot of information. But I'm really surprised that this doesn't
happen more often. So if Stephan, if you haven't seen it,
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I would say keep your eyes open, specifically on a Sunday,
because I always see them on Sunday. It's like what
they do on Sundays, and they're in huge groups.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Swalla, have you seen them?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, Unfortunately, I've seen them. I've seen them in Pasadena.
Sometimes the smaller groups not huge groups, but smaller groups,
very loud on varying bikes. Some have electric scooters, some
have this, that and the other. My knees has one
of those mini bikes. First she had one of the
loud ones. Now she has an electric one. And thank god.
You know, my brothers just really really hard about like
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you're not going out, just cruise around here. Let's go
to a place where you can ride that thing, and
that's what it is. But to me, this hit and run,
it's not that far off from what happened in Hollywood
with the guy from nine to two one Oho in
that year, Ian Zerry, who got into it with those
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mini bike grounds who were driving recklessly in the road
and almost got hit, and he had something to say
to one of them, and they took umbrage with it
when he almost hit one of them, which again is
not his fault if there's zipping in and out of
traffic on a busy street. Yes, he got out the
car and got handled, but that was the decision he made.
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That was a decision he made. I'm sure maybe if
he was twenty years younger, he may have been throwing
them all over the place. But again, I see these things,
and I think to myself, cut in front of me
on a time when I'm going down the street, I
will just be crying. I will ever run you over.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Right, And it's not your intent, no, but I can
see how a driver would have no recourse, absolutely no
decision to make. It's almost like I'm not li likening
a person to an animal, but I would like it
to a similar situation where if an animal were to
a deer were to run in front of your car,
you can't swerve.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
No.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
These little kids on these mini bikes, even young adults,
they're zipping in and out of track, coming out of
side streets, out of nowhere, and to me, I always
pay attention. I'm always trying to think to myself, what
if some kid comes out of from I'm just going
down like a residential street. But even where my kids live,
there's a couple of young people that just zip.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
All around the neighborhood on these.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Bikes and they come in and out of these small streets,
and I'm like, one of these days you're gonna get smacked.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
A car is gonna be speeding through here, and that's
it for you. And hopefully I won't be the car
speeding through. I'm being very serious. I see them usually
within the residential neighborhoods, but these are on a major boulevard,
major thoroughfit, Like, what are y'all doing? And obviously it
was the group mentality where they're not gonna hit all
of us, you know, if we just stick together, and
that's what they were trying to do. They're as a
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group of twenty five or so going through an intersection
against the green making a left turn onto Rosecrans while
we were on Western North South on a green and
they just said, if we're just gonna go all together
and stay together, and it could have been a major,
major accident where a lot of people gotten killed. And
then I get home four hours later I see this story.
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It's like, yeah, yeah, these are the things that we
can't control, but hopefully we can stop from happening. And
the tie in is we know that since policing has
changed where they're not as quick to give traffic violations,
they're not going to bother most of these kids doing
this because you know, the police are in that area.
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We have Guardena police, we have the La County Sheriff's
Department see them all the time. They're not gonna stop them,
they're not gonna waste their time with them. But a
byproduct of that, or unintended consequence of that, is you
have these other traffic related issues that become a problem
because obviously these kids, and I call them kids because
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some are miners and others are young adults. These kids
know that they're not going to be intercepted by law enforcement,
and so you know, you've traded one problem for another.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And now I would not be surprised.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'd be disappointed, but I would not be surprised if
we saw more similar incidents just like this unfortunate one
which happened this morning.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
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Speaker 2 (17:40):
KFI Mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app What's Holly?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Excuse me?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
What's Halloween without silly string? What is Halloween without silly string?
Some people find it's a menace. Some people say it
causes damage and it's a menace and it needs to
be stopped. Well, isn't there something we can do? Can't
we keep the silly string in Halloween?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And you may remember, silly string has been on the
scene since the early two thousands, give or take a year,
and the annual celebration of Halloween in Hollywood, we'll get
a little bit out of control.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I can admit that you'll get a little bit out
of control, and silly string would be everywhere. Police said
that Halloween celebrations because of silly string and other celebration
tactics left Hollywood property owners with about two hundred grand
in annual cleanup and recovery costs. You can't put that
all on silly string, but law enforcement was concerned about
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keeping these celebrations under control. Quote, on a typical Halloween night,
up to one hundred thousand people come to Hollywood Boulevard.
And this is according to the LAPD, hundreds of illegal
vendors flock to the street and sell silly string, which
then becomes the soul source of entertainment for the night.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I don't know. I think liquor has something to do
with it. I think liquors in the equation. I mean,
I've been there. Yes, alcohol set up.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
After nearly a decade of string scraping, as they call it,
the City of La approved restrictions that remain in place,
and they were put in place since August. Under this ordinance,
silly string is prohibited in Hollywood's public places from twelve
am on October thirty first, in other words, leading into Halloween,
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up to twelve pm on November first, well after Halloween.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Violators get this.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Face up to six months in jail, assuming George Gasco prosecutes,
and one thousand dollars in fines. Six months in jail
for silly string. I doubt that's a first defense, but
still throw away the key. It's on the table. Between
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two thousand and nine and twenty twenty two, LAPD arrested
one person and issued zero citations for violating the Halloween
Hollywood Band one person, one person. Bring the string back, No,
increase the patrols and catch these vandals. What we were
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we talking about. These are like motorcycle gangs. We were
talking about.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
These individuals cause hundreds of thousands of dollars of cleanup damage. Yes,
it's not like they're spray painting buildings. But you and
I are not part of that cleanup crew that has
to go and sweep up and clean up Hollywood after
the parade. Do you know how long it takes to
get rid of this distory?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
If it just dissolves.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
That's two to three weeks or even longer with some
of this stuff, depending on the concentration. No, and that's
why they banned it on Colorado Boulevard because it can
be months after the world famous Rose Parade and that
stuff is still just disgracing Colorado Boulevard with their fun aftermath.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You're not cleaning that stuff up. Put them in jail
behind them. Remember when we were.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Allowed to I got to ask stuff from this because
I don't know if his generation ever did this. Did
your generation, Stephan ever toilet paper houses.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I think we're like one of the last ones to
do it. I didn't personally do it, but I had
a lot of friends that would do that, especially on Halloween.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Not that would do it now because it'll get you
shot exactly. I'm being serious. It's dangerous. But that was
something that was you know, it was fun. It wasn't vandalism. Yeah,
you have to pick it out of your tree, you
have to get it out of your pool. I mean
that stuff in the pool can be kind of problematic,
but it was.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It was harmless, kids fun and.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
For the most part, it was either they throw it
at the old crotchety, get off my lawn guy, or
it would be them like attacking each other's friends.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That'd be it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Look, I had my house toilet paper many times, and
I was the one who had to go up and
clean it up.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
No, this is a no, it's actually a hell no.
It's actually a hell no. I am proud of Hollywood
for standing up. The streets are already rough enough. Okay,
they've already got to deal with everything else that's causing
a layer of filth on the streets.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You don't need this attitude.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
And again, I feel for the cleanup crewise, I feel
for the people that have to go out and clean
the stuff afterwards. It's like, it's bad enough, we have
to come out and clean up the vomit and.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The bile or not the bio, but the pillbile. You know,
there's all there's all that, the liquor.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Bottles, the glass, the trash. Oh but don't put it
all on silly string. Now, the silly string is the
hardest thing to clean that. To me, that's like, oh man,
now we got to scrape this stuff off the buildings.
We've got to try to get this stuff up. That's
a lot tougher, and.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Those things they it almost if the sun hits it
long enough, if they almost become like cement.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You know, yes, No, did you know this? Though you
mentioned submit? Silly string was accidentally discovered back in nineteen
seventy two. Nineteen seventy two, I didn't know it was
that old by two scientists attempting to develop a sprayable
cast for broken limbs.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Talk about submit.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yes, it's supposed to harden, and the product rose to
prominence through the nineteen nineties, eventually becoming ubiquitous in toy
stores around the world, probably in toy stores that twelve
worked in.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yes, And I used to see it, and I used
to try to hide it. I used to try to
put displays in front of it. Ban the silly stream.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I remember when they first there was a story about that,
and then I was doing uber still and you know,
you start seeing the signs that they put up just seasonally,
and we'll say right there, like thousand dollars fine if
you're caught using silly Stream. Because I do remember the
days after it was like the Walk of Shame for
West Hollywood because you I mean, you could just drive
anywhere and it looked like it rained from the skies.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
There was so much and it's not just Pasadena, it's
not just Hollywood. Last year, Beverly Hills passed an ordinance
banning people under the age of twenty one from having
silly strings.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
So you can be twenty two, you can be fifty four.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And have silly string, but if you're under twenty one,
you could not have silly string. Shaving cream or hair
removal gel. Hair removal gel? That What the hell? Why
would anyone have hair removal gel like naire?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
What would they use that for?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
That's weird. I need to ask a delinquent. Maybe Mark
Ronner wouldn't know. No, I'm being very serious. Beverly Hills
passed an ordinance that no one under the age of
twenty one could have hair removal gel in public on
Halloween hair removal jail.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm just trying to think of the applications.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, I just tuned back into this. I was busy
for a minute here, and now we're on hair removal gel.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So you, as a former delinquent, don't know you mean.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Like pulling pranks on people, like putting their in their underpants.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'm trying to figure out how it would be a
thing on Halloween.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, I'm not admitting to any near related pranks in
my past, and the statute of limitations has expired, just
so you know. But you know, it's important that people
follow the rules so that we avoid chaos and anarchy.
The silly string thing is hilarious. I was reading on
Wikipedia about the creation of silly string, and it just
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seems designed from the get go to irritate people.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
So that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Look, I'm still pro string, pro string, bring back the
silly string.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Did you have silly string when you were a kid.
Because I was poor, white trash, we couldn't have silly string.
We had to use twine. It wasn't the same.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
No, it wasn't a thing in my neighborhood I think
until the nineteen nineties, and I had already gone on
to college, so it was less used by me and
my friends. Maybe more so for like adult parties, but
not like out in the neighborhood type halloween stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It was more like as a decorative item for Halloween
houses and parties of that.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I see. Well, I'm not prepared to die on that
silly string. Hill. Pick your battles. I've learned that from you.
Mo Ah, that's so nice. You acknowledged that you learned
something from me.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Well, it's not since here. Let's just keep moving. It's
Later with Noe Kelly KFI AM six forty. We're live
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Speaker 4 (26:30):
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Speaker 2 (26:35):
But I love living here in California. I love movies.
I love the history and the connection between the two.
But I am not I am not ignorant of the
issues which the film industry has been going through. Some
of it has to do with just the cost of
producing movies. How it's more expensive to do it in
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California as opposed to the locations. You can't just do
all movies on a back lot. Sometimes you need the
type of studio space which is not available or is
not affordable in the sense of being available. You have
other competing alternatives. You have major studios which you can
go to Georgia, North Carolina, Toronto, all places in North
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America doesn't have to be Los Angeles. And you talk
about post production, that can be done anywhere. A lot
of things are done in CGI where you don't need
the physical set location to produce a lot of these pictures.
And there's something else we've talked about. If you looked
at the number of movies, this is just movies which
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are released in theaters, the number of movies released in
theaters over the past three four years during the pandemic.
Coming out of the pandemic, they have steadily declined in
number number of movies which are released for movie theaters.
There are fewer movies being produced, at least in the
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United States. So there are a lot of things working
against the state of California. When Governor Newsom and also
Mayor Bass unveiled this proposal, let me be clear, it's
a proposal, not an actual policy, not a law, not
an executive order, but a proposal which will have to
get past the state legislature. When they release a proposal,
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it's okay to be skeptical. It might be well intentioned,
but it's okay to be skeptical as to whether it's
going to make a difference. And as I said, Newsom
and Mayor Bass unveiled this proposal, and it says that
it's going to more than double the tax credit the
state offers to producers of films and TV shows that
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shoot in California. The proposal would increase California's annual film
and TV tax credit from three hundred and thirty million
to seven hundred and fifty million, but again has to
be approved by the Californias legislature.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We needed to make a statement, and we needed to
do something that was meaningful and not just intentional. That's
Governor Gavin Newsom went on. We put this new marker
out seven hundred and fifty million. Close quote. Let me
just say this, and I really want to get your
thoughts on this mark. It may be well intentioned, it
may be a good idea air quotes, but it's just
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a proposal, and I'm concerned that it may be too little,
too late, because I think of a company like Disney, Slash,
Marvel already very comfortable with sending out their productions to Georgia.
They do a lot of filming in Georgia or Vancouver, Hoover,
North Carolina, all those places. I don't know if tax
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credits alone are going to be enough when you have
the infrastructure, everything is set up right there. All they're
doing is just basically putting people on planes going to
that location and they're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, it's too bad.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I mean this, you and I are sitting in the
epicenter of entertainment for the whole world. Why on earth
would we want to give that up? Do a cost
benefit analysis? What do we lose by offering these incentives.
I think it's a no brainer. Yeah, no, they should
do it.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I just don't know whether it's going to bring about
the desired result.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
In other words, if they did this maybe a year.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Ago, two years ago, it may have had more of
an impact.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
If it's where some studios are too far gone. It's like, no,
we have a good thing going over here. Remember a
lot of these movies are set in the pipeline years
in advance.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, you could be right.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
And this is just one facet of the decline of
the movie industry and the theater going experience as well.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I mean, I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
About this, and I spent quite a bit of time
over the weekend actually reading and looking at stuff related
to this. Do you remember the period of time when
you just decided we're gonna go to a movie, and
you just you pick what you're gonna see when you
get there, right right, and they have.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Maybe twelve or thirteen different choices. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You're gonna go to a movie and you're gonna go
have a drink or something to eat and talk about
it afterwards, and that's your evening. But things are much
more fragmented now, and you don't you plan the specific
movie you're gonna see. You spoil it for yourself by
seeing interviews and clips and leaked footage and stuff like
that for weeks and months ahead of time. The whole
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scenario has changed, and this is just one little sliver
of it.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
But it can't hurt No, no, no, no. I don't think
they lose anything by doing it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I just don't know if it's going to be the
magic pill that California wants.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It to be and also needs it to be. Yeah,
it's just one one domino in the whole thing. I mean,
for one thing, we started off the show talking about
Venom three, and another domino would be stop churning out crap.
I mean there's always been crap, but you know, widen
the array of things that are available to people like
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it used to be in the old days, so that
it's not just all big tent poled garbage that could
have been written by an AI or a little independent
things that you could shoot on your iPhone. Give people
more to choose from. Ah, maybe you need to.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Tweak it or also have some sort of benefit for
certain movies within certain budgets to encourage let's say, the
seventy five million dollar rom com to be shot in
California as opposed to going to some unnamed location that
looks like California.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, exactly, There's just not as much to choose from.
And it's another reason why we see sequels and remakes,
things that are familiar, because they're more guaranteed to get
a return on the investment. And some movies need to
be cheap enough so that you can take a risk.
I mean this one reason why I watch older movies.
I know I'm going to be surprised more often by
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them than i am a current movie.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Sadly, it's over for Hollywood. I know, as much as
Mark dreadsid AI is not stopping and what Hollywood is
doing to incorporate AI and technology into just making films,
cutting out the need for multiple great camera people, editors,
all of that, as far as the on screen portion
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of it, there's less and less need for a studio
to even go and shoot someplace. You can go and
just film a cemetery of building, whatever, and just put
that on screen with an actor, and most of us
wouldn't know the difference.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And that is going to be the future. But that's
the great point.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It's like the whole idea of shooting a movie is
going to fundamentally change. Has fundamentally changed over the past
five years. When you can shoot air quotes a movie
on an iPhone, why do you need a studio? And
with streaming, why do you need a distributor? The whole
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concept of the movie making industry has changed and will
continue to change. And I don't know, with the exception
of the major studio movies, and we've said there are
fewer of them each year, how this particular proposal, not legislation,
but proposal is going to save Hollywood. And I'm more
of the mindset that Taula is right than wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Well, you've outnumbered me. There's nothing else I can say. No,
I think this is a good move, and it's it
can't hurt, and you know, why not do everything you
possibly can Because we're also sending California and Hollywood out
to the rest of the world. I mean, I still
love watching old Rockford episodes to see what this place
used to look like when we were kids.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You're not wrong, it's just that you're wrong. And on
that note, no, I'm just saying you're not wrong. I
just don't think there's anything we can do to prevent
progress from happening.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Do you really want, like Marjorie Taylor Green to be
the king of New Hollywood in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
You're making a value judgment.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I'm just saying this is where the industry's going, not
whether I want it to go that way or not,
even that I like it going that way. I'm just
saying technology has allowed movies to be made anywhere for
far less, requiring fewer people.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You're just being a cold and calculating vulcan about it,
and I'm being Captain Kirk.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I got it. Look at the time, if I am
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Speaker 1 (35:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:28):
So much to talk about. Well, talk about that juvenile.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You might have heard about the story the juvenile who
was killed on one of those pocket bikes, those tidy motorcycles.
I have a personal anecdote just from yesterday which kind
of ties into that whole story on a larger level.
And did you know that Hollywood is banning silly string
on Halloween?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Talk about un American? How can you ban silly string?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There is nothing more necessary for Halloween than silly.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, I don't know about that, but it's really important.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And Governor Newsom you might have heard by now Governor
Newsom and also Mayor Bass, they've unveiled a proposal to
bolster California film production. I don't know if it's too little,
too late, but they're going to try to lure back
some of these movie studio productions. And I'm quite sure
Twala and Mark will weigh in on that as we
continue to follow the business of filmmaking. And I don't
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know if anyone took the dive and tried to see
venus excuse me, Venom the last dance.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Mark, did you did you I would have gone to
Venice the last dance, but no way in hell was
I wasting time and money on that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, we got the box office numbers, and it seems
like we cannot actually be mad at Sony because they said, yes,
it's trash, we're putting out trash, but trash is making
us money, and so who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It may not be the end of the saga. Lucky us.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You know how they did like the Final Friday of
the Last Friday, thirteenth and something like that. Then all
of a sudden they had like another three. Yeah, that'll
never end.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I'm actually a fan of when they got when they
just decided they didn't care, and they care.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
They put one in space.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Right, and you get to the point where I think,
you know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
They're self aware.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
They said the Fast Andiest Franchise was a perfect example.
After a certain point, you realize, you know what, let's
stop trying to make serious movies and let's just go
out and make money.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, just blow stuff up, kill people whatever. They stop
pretending it's anything but stimulus.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Right, we have a core demographic they like what it is.
We're not gonna win any awards we're not gonna get
any critical acclaim.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
By the way, Dodgers just scored another run for zero.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Just go with the money making aspect of it all,
because we're in the business of making money.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
We're not in the business of winning awards.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes, we'd like to win awards, but to win awards
that means we would make more money.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
So we're just trying to make money however we can. Yeah, Friday,
I referred to the movie as a product. And when
I say that, just to be clear, that's an insult.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh okay, I've heard nothing good about this movie, nothing
not from anybody who.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Has seen it.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I can't imagine the kind of brain damage it would
take for me, Like if I had long COVID or something,
what would it take for me to willingly go to this,
sit through it, and enjoy it. And you know, we
haven't seen it, so this is all, you know, hypothesis.
But based on the first two, I think we're pretty safe,
assuming that it's a number two.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I am conflicted in this way because as a kid
growing up, not that I was a comic book kid,
but I was always a Spider Man kid. I knew
that lore through and through, and one of my favorite
villains in the Spider Man universe.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Actually, the favorite villain was Venom.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Really, of the few books that I was reading, Venom
was always a part of it. So when he finally
got to the big screen in Uh Spider three, I'm thinking, like, yes,
finally they messed it up then because they had him
share the screen with Sandman, And I said, wait a minute,
Venom deserves his own, you know, place in the.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Movie as a villain. Oh, they screwed up sand Man two, right, right?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I said, Then I saw there doing Tom Hardy
and Venom's own movie. It's like, well, that's kind of strange.
I was intrigued because I'm thinking, well, it is Venom
his own movie, but how can you have Venom without
Spider Man is kind of a packaged deal. It didn't
make sense. And then I saw the movie. It's like, Okay,
this is just stupid. It made no sense. It destroyed
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the whole idea of why Venom was there, his whole
point of being there. How he was transfixed with Spider Man,
who doesn't exist, and it just didn't make any sense.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Well, they're coming out with a craven movie too, that
another Spider Man villain getting his whole movie, a whole
movie to himself that no one asked for anywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
That goes back to just making money.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Sony has decided we're gonna use all the rogues gallery
in the Spider Man pantheon and just say Craven Morbius,
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Venom, just give them all movies.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
These guys are suckers enough they will see enough of them,
will go see the movie where it will be financially
worthwhile for us.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That's all they're doing.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They're not trying to make the MCU Marvel money, but
they can turn a profit on these because these are
relatively inexpensive quote unquote superhero anti hero movies.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I spent a good portion of last week taunting Tuala
that they should make an Enforcer's movie with the Ox
and Fancy Dan and whatever the guy's name is, with
the Lariat, just like the lamest, oldest villains. Somebody's gonna
do it. We're joking about it now, but it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But they were already talking about doing the Senator Sinister
six movie.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, so I mean, yeah, they don't.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's almost like we don't need no stinking Spider Man.
We'll just make up our own movies and our own
lord and our own source material now.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And just to be clear, this Venam movie fell short
of the sixty five million bucks that it was projected
to make. It made fifty one million. That ain't nothing, no,
because I think the butchets like one hundred and twenty million.
I think it made its money back in his first week.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
But the fact that enough humans I know marched into
this and paid fifty one million bucks doesn't say great
things about humanity.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And it's made it very clear that they know how
dumb humanity is and they're going to.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Cash it in.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You'll somebody smarter than us once said, you'll never go broke,
underestimating the intelligence of people.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
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Speaker 2 (07:42):
And there was a minor, unfortunately on a mini bike
who was killed by a hit and run driver early
this morning. And the crash occurred near Olympic Boulevard and
at a rapp A ho Yeah, a Rappa Hose Street
around one thirty am. Bonding officers found the identified unidentified
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male mini bike rider down at the scene and he
was pronounced dead at the scene. His identity is also
being withheld pending family notification. And if you don't know
the mini bikes, they are like two types of mini bikes.
There are the actual mini motorcycle looking mini bikes, and
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they're also these kind of like go kart style.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Miniature motorcycles.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
They have go kart wheels and they have a lawnmower engine.
And depending on what neighbor your neighborhood you're riding or
driving through, you can find them. They look like toys,
but they're not high tech. And yesterday, the reason I'm
talking about this is this is something which is really
prevalent in my neighborhood, and I think you might have
(08:50):
seen this as well, Stefan. There were some thirty to
forty of these many bike riders and they're all aged
between let's say thirteen in twenty three, mostly miners, who
were doing almost a street takeover. I was on Western
Avenue at Rosecranz. I was going north on Western getting
(09:13):
ready to pass through rosecrans I had the green and
you had like thirty to forty were making an legal
left turn. They said, ef itt, We're all just gonna go.
At the same time, people are screaming through the intersection
because it's a full on green. It's not like they're
trying to beat the light or anything. They're just gonna
say no, we're not gonna wait. And they were daring
us to hit them, as if we wouldn't because they
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just thought that we wouldn't hit them. You know, if
I were ten years younger, I probably would have, but
I didn't, and I stopped, and I was trying to
flag down other drivers, like slow down. These fools are
determined to go through the intersection. And this was about
six pm yesterday at Rosecrans and Western and they were
turning east on Rosecrans. I'm not saying this is one
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in the same, but I think it's one of those
things where or people will go cruising on crunch on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
It's one of the things.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Because they there's no way they all were just happened
happening to be in the same place. Obviously this is
something they do as a group and get into mischief
for whatever. But some of them were the real verifiable
mini bikes and some of the homemade kind of go
kart bikes, if you know what I mean, with the
with the go cart wheels on them and everything, which
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are completely illegal. It's just like a little frame and
an engine, that's all it is. And this is something
I've been seeing more and more of.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Have you seen them, Stefan, I haven't seen that, but
where my parents live on that block, at least every
other weekend, you'd always hear at least four or five
going by, And you know it's the for me, I know,
it's always the homemade ones. Yeah, the homemade ones, because
it's so loud. It's louder than like an actual motorcycle,
because it's like you said, it's like a lawnmower engine. Yeah,
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there's no muffler anything, no, So it's just like they're
flying there all the way at the end of the block.
I can still hear them like it's insane how.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Loud they are, and almost let's say, none of them
are wearing helmets, none of them, not a one. And
the reason I mention that is because when I see
that a miner on a mini bike was struck and killed,
it says, yeah, I believe that I believe that if
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there's any commonality in this, I see a lot of
miners riding these things. I see a lot of them
riding without helmets. And I see a lot of them
riding without helmets and intentionally disobeying traffic laws.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And here's something else. Let's say you drive an suv.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Your center of horizon, as I call it, your line
of sight is much higher than these little ass mini bikes.
You couldn't see them if you wanted to, even if
you want to avoid them, even if you're following the
rules of the road, they are so low. If you
are not I'm not consciously aware of them, talking about
the how loud they are. If you don't hear them
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and connect that to what that likely is, you could
very easily end up in an accident with them because
you just can't see them.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And they scared the crap.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Out of me, because it's like, look, if I were
not paying attention, if I were distracted driving and legally
and rightfully going through that intersection at Western and Rosecrans yesterday,
I would have cleaned out at least six to seven
of them, six to seven different people ranging in age
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as I think, from thirteen to twenty three, and it
wouldn't have been my fault per se, but I would
not have want that on my conscience or anyone else's conscience.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So I say that this.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm actually surprised about a miner on a mini bike
being killed by a hit and run driver. And this
is not to excuse the hit and run driver. I
don't know all the specifics, but I do know that
these many by do pose a problem for drivers, even
under the best of circumstances. And this says the suspect
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vehicle was traveling eastbound on the Olympic when it hit
the juvenile. We don't know exactly as far as what
the mini bike was doing, whether it was within the
bounds of the law or what. We don't have a
lot of information. But I'm really surprised that this doesn't
happen more often. So if Stephan, if you haven't seen it,
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I would say keep your eyes open, specifically on a Sunday,
because I always see them on Sunday. It's like what
they do on Sundays, and they're in huge groups.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Swalla, have you seen them?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah, Unfortunately, I've seen them. I've seen them in Pasadena.
Sometimes the smaller groups not huge groups, but smaller groups,
very loud on varying bikes. Some have electric scooters, some
have this, that and the other. My knees has one
of those mini bikes. First she had one of the
loud ones. Now she has an electric one. And thank god.
You know, my brothers just really really hard about like
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you're not going out, just cruise around here. Let's go
to a place where you can ride that thing, and
that's what it is. But to me, this hit and run,
it's not that far off from what happened in Hollywood
with the guy from nine to two one Oho in
that year, Ian Zerry, who got into it with those
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mini bike grounds who were driving recklessly in the road
and almost got hit, and he had something to say
to one of them, and they took umbrage with it
when he almost hit one of them, which again is
not his fault if there's zipping in and out of
traffic on a busy street. Yes, he got out the
car and got handled, but that was the decision he made.
(14:44):
That was a decision he made. I'm sure maybe if
he was twenty years younger, he may have been throwing
them all over the place. But again, I see these things,
and I think to myself, cut in front of me
on a time when I'm going down the street, I
will just be crying. I will ever run you over.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Right, And it's not your intent, no, but I can
see how a driver would have no recourse, absolutely no
decision to make. It's almost like I'm not li likening
a person to an animal, but I would like it
to a similar situation where if an animal were to
a deer were to run in front of your car,
you can't swerve.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
No.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
These little kids on these mini bikes, even young adults,
they're zipping in and out of track, coming out of
side streets, out of nowhere, and to me, I always
pay attention. I'm always trying to think to myself, what
if some kid comes out of from I'm just going
down like a residential street. But even where my kids live,
there's a couple of young people that just zip.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
All around the neighborhood on these.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Bikes and they come in and out of these small streets,
and I'm like, one of these days you're gonna get smacked.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
A car is gonna be speeding through here, and that's
it for you. And hopefully I won't be the car
speeding through. I'm being very serious. I see them usually
within the residential neighborhoods, but these are on a major boulevard,
major thoroughfit, Like, what are y'all doing? And obviously it
was the group mentality where they're not gonna hit all
of us, you know, if we just stick together, and
that's what they were trying to do. They're as a
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group of twenty five or so going through an intersection
against the green making a left turn onto Rosecrans while
we were on Western North South on a green and
they just said, if we're just gonna go all together
and stay together, and it could have been a major,
major accident where a lot of people gotten killed. And
then I get home four hours later I see this story.
(16:31):
It's like, yeah, yeah, these are the things that we
can't control, but hopefully we can stop from happening. And
the tie in is we know that since policing has
changed where they're not as quick to give traffic violations,
they're not going to bother most of these kids doing
this because you know, the police are in that area.
(16:52):
We have Guardena police, we have the La County Sheriff's
Department see them all the time. They're not gonna stop them,
they're not gonna waste their time with them. But a
byproduct of that, or unintended consequence of that, is you
have these other traffic related issues that become a problem
because obviously these kids, and I call them kids because
(17:12):
some are miners and others are young adults. These kids
know that they're not going to be intercepted by law enforcement,
and so you know, you've traded one problem for another.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And now I would not be surprised.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'd be disappointed, but I would not be surprised if
we saw more similar incidents just like this unfortunate one
which happened this morning.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
KFI Mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app What's Holly?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Excuse me?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
What's Halloween without silly string? What is Halloween without silly string?
Some people find it's a menace. Some people say it
causes damage and it's a menace and it needs to
be stopped. Well, isn't there something we can do? Can't
we keep the silly string in Halloween?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And you may remember, silly string has been on the
scene since the early two thousands, give or take a year,
and the annual celebration of Halloween in Hollywood, we'll get
a little bit out of control.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I can admit that you'll get a little bit out
of control, and silly string would be everywhere. Police said
that Halloween celebrations because of silly string and other celebration
tactics left Hollywood property owners with about two hundred grand
in annual cleanup and recovery costs. You can't put that
all on silly string, but law enforcement was concerned about
(18:44):
keeping these celebrations under control. Quote, on a typical Halloween night,
up to one hundred thousand people come to Hollywood Boulevard.
And this is according to the LAPD, hundreds of illegal
vendors flock to the street and sell silly string, which
then becomes the soul source of entertainment for the night.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I don't know. I think liquor has something to do
with it. I think liquors in the equation. I mean,
I've been there. Yes, alcohol set up.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
After nearly a decade of string scraping, as they call it,
the City of La approved restrictions that remain in place,
and they were put in place since August. Under this ordinance,
silly string is prohibited in Hollywood's public places from twelve
am on October thirty first, in other words, leading into Halloween,
(19:33):
up to twelve pm on November first, well after Halloween.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Violators get this.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Face up to six months in jail, assuming George Gasco prosecutes,
and one thousand dollars in fines. Six months in jail
for silly string. I doubt that's a first defense, but
still throw away the key. It's on the table. Between
(20:00):
two thousand and nine and twenty twenty two, LAPD arrested
one person and issued zero citations for violating the Halloween
Hollywood Band one person, one person. Bring the string back, No,
increase the patrols and catch these vandals. What we were
(20:25):
we talking about. These are like motorcycle gangs. We were
talking about.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
These individuals cause hundreds of thousands of dollars of cleanup damage. Yes,
it's not like they're spray painting buildings. But you and
I are not part of that cleanup crew that has
to go and sweep up and clean up Hollywood after
the parade. Do you know how long it takes to
get rid of this distory?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
If it just dissolves.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
That's two to three weeks or even longer with some
of this stuff, depending on the concentration. No, and that's
why they banned it on Colorado Boulevard because it can
be months after the world famous Rose Parade and that
stuff is still just disgracing Colorado Boulevard with their fun aftermath.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You're not cleaning that stuff up. Put them in jail
behind them. Remember when we were.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Allowed to I got to ask stuff from this because
I don't know if his generation ever did this. Did
your generation, Stephan ever toilet paper houses.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I think we're like one of the last ones to
do it. I didn't personally do it, but I had
a lot of friends that would do that, especially on Halloween.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Not that would do it now because it'll get you
shot exactly. I'm being serious. It's dangerous. But that was
something that was you know, it was fun. It wasn't vandalism. Yeah,
you have to pick it out of your tree, you
have to get it out of your pool. I mean
that stuff in the pool can be kind of problematic,
but it was.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It was harmless, kids fun and.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
For the most part, it was either they throw it
at the old crotchety, get off my lawn guy, or
it would be them like attacking each other's friends.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That'd be it.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Look, I had my house toilet paper many times, and
I was the one who had to go up and
clean it up.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
No, this is a no, it's actually a hell no.
It's actually a hell no. I am proud of Hollywood
for standing up. The streets are already rough enough. Okay,
they've already got to deal with everything else that's causing
a layer of filth on the streets.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You don't need this attitude.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
And again, I feel for the cleanup crewise, I feel
for the people that have to go out and clean
the stuff afterwards. It's like, it's bad enough, we have
to come out and clean up the vomit and.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The bile or not the bio, but the pillbile. You know,
there's all there's all that, the liquor.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Bottles, the glass, the trash. Oh but don't put it
all on silly string. Now, the silly string is the
hardest thing to clean that. To me, that's like, oh man,
now we got to scrape this stuff off the buildings.
We've got to try to get this stuff up. That's
a lot tougher, and.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Those things they it almost if the sun hits it
long enough, if they almost become like cement.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You know, yes, No, did you know this? Though you
mentioned submit? Silly string was accidentally discovered back in nineteen
seventy two. Nineteen seventy two, I didn't know it was
that old by two scientists attempting to develop a sprayable
cast for broken limbs.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Talk about submit.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yes, it's supposed to harden, and the product rose to
prominence through the nineteen nineties, eventually becoming ubiquitous in toy
stores around the world, probably in toy stores that twelve
worked in.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yes, And I used to see it, and I used
to try to hide it. I used to try to
put displays in front of it. Ban the silly stream.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I remember when they first there was a story about that,
and then I was doing uber still and you know,
you start seeing the signs that they put up just seasonally,
and we'll say right there, like thousand dollars fine if
you're caught using silly Stream. Because I do remember the
days after it was like the Walk of Shame for
West Hollywood because you I mean, you could just drive
anywhere and it looked like it rained from the skies.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
There was so much and it's not just Pasadena, it's
not just Hollywood. Last year, Beverly Hills passed an ordinance
banning people under the age of twenty one from having
silly strings.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
So you can be twenty two, you can be fifty four.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And have silly string, but if you're under twenty one,
you could not have silly string. Shaving cream or hair
removal gel. Hair removal gel? That What the hell? Why
would anyone have hair removal gel like naire?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
What would they use that for?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
That's weird. I need to ask a delinquent. Maybe Mark
Ronner wouldn't know. No, I'm being very serious. Beverly Hills
passed an ordinance that no one under the age of
twenty one could have hair removal gel in public on
Halloween hair removal jail.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I'm just trying to think of the applications.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, I just tuned back into this. I was busy
for a minute here, and now we're on hair removal gel.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So you, as a former delinquent, don't know you mean.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Like pulling pranks on people, like putting their in their underpants.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'm trying to figure out how it would be a
thing on Halloween.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, I'm not admitting to any near related pranks in
my past, and the statute of limitations has expired, just
so you know. But you know, it's important that people
follow the rules so that we avoid chaos and anarchy.
The silly string thing is hilarious. I was reading on
Wikipedia about the creation of silly string, and it just
(25:30):
seems designed from the get go to irritate people.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
So that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Look, I'm still pro string, pro string, bring back the
silly string.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Did you have silly string when you were a kid.
Because I was poor, white trash, we couldn't have silly string.
We had to use twine. It wasn't the same.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
No, it wasn't a thing in my neighborhood I think
until the nineteen nineties, and I had already gone on
to college, so it was less used by me and
my friends. Maybe more so for like adult parties, but
not like out in the neighborhood type halloween stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It was more like as a decorative item for Halloween
houses and parties of that.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I see. Well, I'm not prepared to die on that
silly string. Hill. Pick your battles. I've learned that from you.
Mo Ah, that's so nice. You acknowledged that you learned
something from me.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Well, it's not since here. Let's just keep moving. It's
Later with Noe Kelly KFI AM six forty. We're live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
But I love living here in California. I love movies.
I love the history and the connection between the two.
But I am not I am not ignorant of the
issues which the film industry has been going through. Some
of it has to do with just the cost of
producing movies. How it's more expensive to do it in
(26:57):
California as opposed to the locations. You can't just do
all movies on a back lot. Sometimes you need the
type of studio space which is not available or is
not affordable in the sense of being available. You have
other competing alternatives. You have major studios which you can
go to Georgia, North Carolina, Toronto, all places in North
(27:22):
America doesn't have to be Los Angeles. And you talk
about post production, that can be done anywhere. A lot
of things are done in CGI where you don't need
the physical set location to produce a lot of these pictures.
And there's something else we've talked about. If you looked
at the number of movies, this is just movies which
(27:44):
are released in theaters, the number of movies released in
theaters over the past three four years during the pandemic.
Coming out of the pandemic, they have steadily declined in
number number of movies which are released for movie theaters.
There are fewer movies being produced, at least in the
(28:07):
United States. So there are a lot of things working
against the state of California. When Governor Newsom and also
Mayor Bass unveiled this proposal, let me be clear, it's
a proposal, not an actual policy, not a law, not
an executive order, but a proposal which will have to
get past the state legislature. When they release a proposal,
(28:31):
it's okay to be skeptical. It might be well intentioned,
but it's okay to be skeptical as to whether it's
going to make a difference. And as I said, Newsom
and Mayor Bass unveiled this proposal, and it says that
it's going to more than double the tax credit the
state offers to producers of films and TV shows that
(28:51):
shoot in California. The proposal would increase California's annual film
and TV tax credit from three hundred and thirty million
to seven hundred and fifty million, but again has to
be approved by the Californias legislature.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
We needed to make a statement, and we needed to
do something that was meaningful and not just intentional. That's
Governor Gavin Newsom went on. We put this new marker
out seven hundred and fifty million. Close quote. Let me
just say this, and I really want to get your
thoughts on this mark. It may be well intentioned, it
may be a good idea air quotes, but it's just
(29:30):
a proposal, and I'm concerned that it may be too little,
too late, because I think of a company like Disney, Slash,
Marvel already very comfortable with sending out their productions to Georgia.
They do a lot of filming in Georgia or Vancouver, Hoover,
North Carolina, all those places. I don't know if tax
(29:53):
credits alone are going to be enough when you have
the infrastructure, everything is set up right there. All they're
doing is just basically putting people on planes going to
that location and they're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, it's too bad.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I mean this, you and I are sitting in the
epicenter of entertainment for the whole world. Why on earth
would we want to give that up? Do a cost
benefit analysis? What do we lose by offering these incentives.
I think it's a no brainer. Yeah, no, they should
do it.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I just don't know whether it's going to bring about
the desired result.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
In other words, if they did this maybe a year.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Ago, two years ago, it may have had more of
an impact.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
If it's where some studios are too far gone. It's like, no,
we have a good thing going over here. Remember a
lot of these movies are set in the pipeline years
in advance.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, you could be right.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
And this is just one facet of the decline of
the movie industry and the theater going experience as well.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I mean, I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
About this, and I spent quite a bit of time
over the weekend actually reading and looking at stuff related
to this. Do you remember the period of time when
you just decided we're gonna go to a movie, and
you just you pick what you're gonna see when you
get there, right right, and they have.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Maybe twelve or thirteen different choices. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You're gonna go to a movie and you're gonna go
have a drink or something to eat and talk about
it afterwards, and that's your evening. But things are much
more fragmented now, and you don't you plan the specific
movie you're gonna see. You spoil it for yourself by
seeing interviews and clips and leaked footage and stuff like
that for weeks and months ahead of time. The whole
(31:32):
scenario has changed, and this is just one little sliver
of it.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
But it can't hurt No, no, no, no. I don't think
they lose anything by doing it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I just don't know if it's going to be the
magic pill that California wants.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It to be and also needs it to be. Yeah,
it's just one one domino in the whole thing. I mean,
for one thing, we started off the show talking about
Venom three, and another domino would be stop churning out crap.
I mean there's always been crap, but you know, widen
the array of things that are available to people like
(32:07):
it used to be in the old days, so that
it's not just all big tent poled garbage that could
have been written by an AI or a little independent
things that you could shoot on your iPhone. Give people
more to choose from. Ah, maybe you need to.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Tweak it or also have some sort of benefit for
certain movies within certain budgets to encourage let's say, the
seventy five million dollar rom com to be shot in
California as opposed to going to some unnamed location that
looks like California.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, exactly, There's just not as much to choose from.
And it's another reason why we see sequels and remakes,
things that are familiar, because they're more guaranteed to get
a return on the investment. And some movies need to
be cheap enough so that you can take a risk.
I mean this one reason why I watch older movies.
I know I'm going to be surprised more often by
(33:00):
them than i am a current movie.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Sadly, it's over for Hollywood. I know, as much as
Mark dreadsid AI is not stopping and what Hollywood is
doing to incorporate AI and technology into just making films,
cutting out the need for multiple great camera people, editors,
all of that, as far as the on screen portion
(33:24):
of it, there's less and less need for a studio
to even go and shoot someplace. You can go and
just film a cemetery of building, whatever, and just put
that on screen with an actor, and most of us
wouldn't know the difference.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And that is going to be the future. But that's
the great point.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It's like the whole idea of shooting a movie is
going to fundamentally change. Has fundamentally changed over the past
five years. When you can shoot air quotes a movie
on an iPhone, why do you need a studio? And
with streaming, why do you need a distributor? The whole
(34:01):
concept of the movie making industry has changed and will
continue to change. And I don't know, with the exception
of the major studio movies, and we've said there are
fewer of them each year, how this particular proposal, not legislation,
but proposal is going to save Hollywood. And I'm more
of the mindset that Taula is right than wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Well, you've outnumbered me. There's nothing else I can say. No,
I think this is a good move, and it's it
can't hurt, and you know, why not do everything you
possibly can Because we're also sending California and Hollywood out
to the rest of the world. I mean, I still
love watching old Rockford episodes to see what this place
used to look like when we were kids.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You're not wrong, it's just that you're wrong. And on
that note, no, I'm just saying you're not wrong. I
just don't think there's anything we can do to prevent
progress from happening.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Do you really want, like Marjorie Taylor Green to be
the king of New Hollywood in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
You're making a value judgment.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I'm just saying this is where the industry's going, not
whether I want it to go that way or not,
even that I like it going that way. I'm just
saying technology has allowed movies to be made anywhere for
far less, requiring fewer people.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You're just being a cold and calculating vulcan about it,
and I'm being Captain Kirk.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I got it. Look at the time, if I am
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