November 15, 2024 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Special Guest Host Chris Merrill filling in ‘Later, for Mo’Kelly’ with thoughts on a new study that reveals Americans started drinking more during the pandemic, ‘Lunchables’ being pulled from school lunch menus across the country AND an ongoing study highlighting how “excessive screen time and social media are increasing anxiety and depression in kids” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Chris Marilyn FROMOTE and if I Am six forty listen
anytime on demand of the iHeartRadio app. The pandemic hit
and people turned into drunks. Two things that we could
do during the pandemic while we were locked down. One
make sourdough. Two drink ourselves into oblivion. Be honest, did
you at any point during the pandemic day drink fellas
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you want to get in on this, did you day
drink at all?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's like a rhetorical question.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah, oh no, I really don't because day drinking puts
me to sleep.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Oh right on, right.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
On, I'm not gonna lie. I was doing a lot
of shows from home, and sometimes sometimes a friend of
mine used to visit. Quite the gentleman was Jack had
a boy, had a boy? Eh, listen, got me through
some shows, head relax, right, get through the pandemic. And besides,
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it's radio, right, I mean, we're basically still living in
the world of madmen. So a lot of people took
up imbibing a bit stress related drinking.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We saw that happening.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
There was actually an increase in alcohol related deaths, and now,
according to the Anals of Internal Medicine, researchers found that
drinking has increased and persisted since the end of the pandemic.
I think that probably comes as a surprise to no one.
CBS had the story.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
On that ryand Warnikey has been sober for four years.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
I was under the false belief that it's what I
needed to relax. Alcohol was the cure for a bad day,
or what you used to celebrate. The more I used it,
the more I the more I wanted to turn to it.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
The forty year old mother of two says, things got
worse during the pandemic.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
It seemed like more and more people were drinking, more
than ever, so it was kind of more permission or
it validated what I was doing.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
New research shows alcohol use increased among adults during the
COVID nineteen pandemic and continued through twenty twenty two.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Originally, the increase in drinking was due to social isolation,
disruption and daily activity, and general lack of accessibility to
healthcare and mental health care during a really stressful time. However,
we're seeing that these trends are sustained, meaning that either
people don't know where to get help, they don't know
that they need help.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Doctor Divia Iyaala with Thomas Jefferson University Hospital says more
patients are coming in with alcohol related health problems like
severe liver disease. The study also found the increases in
alcohol use were higher for women.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
I think on TikTok and Instagram, we talk about drinking
wine as mommy juice, and it's become a very socially
acceptable way to deal with life.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
I'm a present mom.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It's not just acceptable. We've sort of gotten to the
point where it's almost a it's like a badge of honor.
I mean, there was a Senatenight Live bid. Did you
guys see this. Adie Bryant was was having a party
or something, and people kept bringing her gifts and they
were all those those goofy signs you might get at
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nick knack shops or whatever, and it said a wine
a day keeps the children away or something like that, right,
and it just kept getting more and more insane they
had to do with her drinking. We've gotten to the
point where there's a certain, i don't know, kitchy pride
in drinking, especially when it comes to wine and look,
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we were even joking about it here about how I
got a friend named Jack, and he's quite a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Right, but it is, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Become this weird, socially acceptable thing, and I have to
be a little bit careful how I phrase this, because
I don't want to I don't want to be train
somebody's confidence. But I also want to be able to
share with you a story. I have a I have
a close relationship with somebody else said that I have
a close relationship with somebody who it was fun, We're
(04:15):
gonna go out, We're gonna do some shots. Uh, hey,
come on over, we'll we'll we'll tip one back. And
then I found out after years, I found out this
person had a real problem. And I didn't pick up
on the signs because it was always kind of a
life of the party thing. Right, I look back now
(04:36):
because this person is dealing with it. They're they're in
a program now, and there's a really tough thing. In fact,
I've got two people, come to think about. I had
another friend who we have a group of guys that
meets up in Las Vegas every year, and this guy
couldn't couldn't go with us. He is the life of
the party kind of guy, and he couldn't go with
(04:56):
us because he had to do a detox, And of
course we were get him grief because it was a
group of ten guys, and you know how you know
how guys are. We're like, oh, and you can't do that.
Why don't you detox after you get done with the vegas?
This sort of thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But the reality is.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I kind of felt that, and I feel guilty myself
that I was an enabler along the way and didn't
recognize that these people were in over their heads. Because
when you're hanging out and you're having a good time,
everything seems fun and right. We're all having a we're
all getting along. It's all very social. The alcohol isn't
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a focus. It's sort of an enhancer that that kind
of thing, and it's not something I struggled with.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I didn't even I think I've revealed this before.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I was I wasn't the paint of the butt teetotaler,
but I was not somebody who'd ever been drunk.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Until I was twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And then I broke the seal and I made up
for it over the course of the next seven or
ten years and now I just I have it on occasion.
So I didn't recognize some of these signs along the way,
and I feel horrible because my loved ones were suffering
and I.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Didn't recognize it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And so I see a story about how the drinking
during the pandemic increased and for how much of the
country doesn't have a drinking problem. You got a guess
of this one. If you had to guess how much
thirty do not have a drinking problem? Yeah, you think
sixty five percent of the country has a drinking problem.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
Really only based on every story that I read. I myself, Look,
I don't I don't know anyone that drinks. I don't
hang out with people to drink because I had a
problem when I was young drinking, okay, and I had
I had a very very bad problem, Like I was
drunk every day for no reason. And when I gave
that up, that that kind of bites at me. So
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to me, I don't I fear being around liquored.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'm just saying situations. Yeah, i'mkno gonna like oh yeah, yeah, well,
just so I stay away so I don't see it.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
But every time I read it, it seems like sixty
five percent in the country has a drinking problem.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So I think that's the summer of the shark situation.
And by that, I mean when you see a bunch
of news stories about drunk drivers, about something, everybody getting
busted or somebody killed by a drunk driver, or you have,
you know, a celebrity that imbibes too much and they
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end up in a car accident or something. It feels
like it's in your face and it's everywhere. But ultimately,
if we think of all the drunk drivers on the road,
we've all encountered it. But in relation to how many
people are actually out there, I feel like the number
of people that have a drinking problem is probably closer
to five percent. It's just that when you have a problem,
it becomes all encompassing. Am I Is that that's fair? Listen,
(07:50):
we can disagree on the stats. That's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But Taala, you said you had a real bad problem.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It did it become and thank you for revealing us
very vulnerable and I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Did that become all encompassing in your world? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (08:02):
Yeah, it got to the point where I would go
and get something to drink in the morning, it got
to be that thing where I felt that needed to
be the thing that kept me going, that kept me like,
that kept me cool, they kept me hanging out. But
after the cool factor were often it became something that
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I needed, you know. It became more than trying to
impress friends or hang out or be the life of
the party. It became something that I thought that I
needed to feel good about myself.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And it came depended on it. Yeah, yeah, very much.
So interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So when you walk into crafts, I don't know how
many you probably hang out with a lot of craft stores.
It's probably your weekend hang just hanging over to Michael's.
And you see all these different signs, like you know,
it's one o'clock or whatever it is. I mean, does
that register with the union? You go, Man, that's just everywhere.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
No, sometimes it is, and I think to myself, it's
just ridiculous. And now I've become that person. Like when
I see or hear when I hear music on the
air and they're talking they're talking about hanging out and
drinking and this that, and eth I see that and
shows that I'm filled with a I don't know, like
kind of like a disgust. I see those things and
I go, you look at this, just just shoving it
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down our throats.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You know, I have that kind of reaction to it.
That's interesting. I'm fascinated by this.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I am because I you know, we have the story
of the drinking going up during the pandemic, and now
it hasn't come back down, and here you are.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You've turned into a total prude. No, yeah, believe now.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
I literally have not had a drink now going on
twenty to be twenty one years this show.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
How about that?
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Yeah, Like I quit cold turkey wow at my thirtieth
birthday party because I cannot remember it. That's how out
I was. And this is like a day or so later,
I'm waking up and kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Like this got stop. Yeah, yeah, this is this is
this is beyond a problem. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, congratulations for recognizing it instead of getting up and saying, oh, oh
that's bad. I bet I better drink some more. God
bless you for that. Yeah all right, I have no
other points to make you just you nailed it. Thanks buddy,
You're amazing, amazing. So this is gonna feel like a
really clunky segue all of a sudden because I'm going
to go from pandemic drinking to the most amazing school
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lunches that are no longer available.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That feels really bad for a segue, Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Because it's in some ways it's gonna be to you.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, okay, how about this? How about this?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
From from alcohol dependency to carb and processed food dependency?
Speaker 9 (10:41):
Boom?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Okay, not quite.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
All right, we're working on it. We'll piece something together.
All right. My fat can is going to talk about
something I can't put down. That is next. That felt better?
All right, there we go.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
All right, So, Chris Marriland from Kelly, I think I
said that one of the things that I've battled my
entire life is my fat can, if I'm being honest,
and part of that reason, I'm convinced.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And I actually saw a study on this recently.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
This said there's no real evidence that processed food is
bad for you. I disagree. I think processed food is terrible,
but I love it. I love it so much, And
I think maybe the processed food isn't necessarily in and
of itself a bad thing. But the processed food keeps
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us coming back from more, and that to me is
the biggest issue. In fact, I've been dieting this whole year,
and I've lost a decent amount of weight, and i
feel pretty good about myself. But I've noticed that if
I start to stray from my diet, all of a sudden,
I start to crave more and I don't put the
fork down is quickly, right, I keep having some some cravings.
(12:05):
And so this is why I'm not a big fan
of the processed food, even though I'm gonna hear from
food people out there that say, how dare you? Process
food is fine, there's no evidence process food is bad
for you or whatever, but I think it is. That said,
I'm going to tell you this. I have what my
what my officemate calls an adult lunchable. Every day, he
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said to me, the ideas, what is that? What is
that adult lunchable thing called? It's just a Hillshire Farm lunchible.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
But it's like an adult version, yeah right right now.
But yeah, I know what you're talking. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Okay, So it's just it's a cracker, it's a slice
of cheese and it's actual meat. It's not that processed
chunk that you get in the Oscar Meyer lunchables. I
can put away some lunchables though. Man, I love lunchables,
and not only that. Kids love lunchables so much so
they were rejoicing because one year ago on ABC seven
(13:01):
they had this story.
Speaker 10 (13:03):
Well, lunchables will become part of some school lunch programs.
This small only two new varieties will be included in
cafeterias Turkey and cheddar, cracker staggers and extra cheesy.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Pizza Extra cheesy.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I hate when they got fancy with lunchables.
Speaker 10 (13:17):
These are different than those found in grocery stores. The
company says they have improved nutrition that meets federal guidelines
for the National School Lunch Program.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
All right, meets national guidelines lunchables. So how did that
program go over? Well, hmm, it didn't take long before
somebody said that's not good food.
Speaker 11 (13:40):
This morning, Kraft Heinz says it's pulling lunchables from the
National School Lunch Program. It comes after Consumer Reports urged
the government to drop the product from school lunches entirely.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That was consumer reports, that's legit.
Speaker 12 (13:53):
We found relatively high doses of lead, cadmium or both,
and all of them and most also had dale, which
is a chemical used to make plastic that have been
linked to a host of health problems.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Do you ever see the study about microplastics and it
says something like ninety five or ninety nine percent of
people have microplastics in their system now? And there's always
this little bit of me that thinks, maybe I'm special
and not part of that one or five percent that
or maybe I am part of the one or five
percent that don't have microplastics. And then you find out
that microplastics are actually in all of the delicious processed
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foods that we've been eating.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, it turns out I'm in the majority.
Speaker 11 (14:31):
Kraft Hinds bet big on it's push to get lunchibles
into schools, modifying the product to comply with federal guidelines.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
The hell was that? But you love TV when they
just have to throw you know, I pull TV stories
and they have to throw some sound effect in randomly.
That was you, No, it wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Is that weird? That's funny? They went to some videos
with federal guideline.
Speaker 11 (14:55):
It is, Yeah, lunchables as a way schools could cut
but nutrition advocates criticized offering processed branded foods and schools,
and Kraft says the demand never materialized.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, why don't they go to what we all grew
up on, delicious rectangles of pizza.
Speaker 11 (15:12):
It's the latest school lunch idea. To face challenges, we
also need to significantly change the quality of food that
kids are getting at school. As First Lady, Michelle Obama
made improving nutrition a priority, resulting in new standards in
twenty ten. Studies showed the standards help lower childhood obesity,
but many schools said the costs were too high, and
one study found students were throwing away sixty percent of
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vegetables and forty percent of fruits.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, that is kind of what we do as adults too.
Speaker 11 (15:41):
The Trump administration rolled back the regulations in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Because that was Michelle Obama's thing. Remember she wanted to
have healthy school lunches and all that, and it was like,
we're not going to do this.
Speaker 11 (15:51):
But now, with Robert F. Kennedy expected to play a
major role in the nation's healthcare more changes could be
on the way.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
Oh, I'll get process food out of school lunch immediately.
About half the school lunch program goes to we're creating
diabetes problem and our kids.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I'm giving them food that's poison.
Speaker 11 (16:11):
Andrew Dimbert, ABC News New York.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, giving them food it's poison. And then he was
also bagging on Donald Trump's meals.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Did you see that?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And Trump's still going to make him the Health and
Human Services secretary because he said that Trump keeps putting
poison in his body because he loves McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I mean, I get it. I get it, and I
don't even know what they do with RFK.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
You ever find yourself in this weird situation where RFK
will say something that just sounds batspit crazy and you go,
come on, dude, And then he'll say something, you go,
that makes a lot of sense. I think he's right
about processed foods. I think he said I think he
hit the nail on the head. This is it's bad
for us, and we're giving it to the kids, and
it's bad for the kids, and what are we doing
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to the future health of America. I actually agree with
him on that. And then he'll say, we're giving him
brain worms, and well that's a little weird, a little bizarre.
Just finding myself so torn on RFK so torn? How
about oh and also RFK is I think the only
presidential candidate I've ever spoken to. I had a chance
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to talk to him last year. I did like a
five minute interview with RFK. So Yes, pretty close to
somebody who was pretty close to somebody who was pretty
close to a president.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yep, that's me, all right?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
How about social ism? Not like you think that's next.
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Had I got anxiety. I was just thinking about this.
I have the week of Thanksgiving. I have to go
see family, and I was just thinking, oh, I need
a little vacation. I'm kind of excited about a little vacation.
And I was just thinking, oh, yeah, but then I'll
be back at work and I have to be at work,
and I'm going to get back to work, and it's
gonna be it'll be December.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And then I got get my Christmas press? What's wrong
with me? Does this happen to you guys?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Where your brain starts worrying about crap that's so far
into the future, and it's not like it's a problem,
it's it's just going to happen, and you just start
getting You're just it's gonna happen, right, And I just
start worrying about this, you.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Know, like all the time.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
For me, it's it's you, yeah, because it's like you think,
like you said, well, I try to always be prepared,
and then I go like, probably a little too far,
and then that's when you start panicking, and it's like
this is two months later down the road, like you said,
Christmas and New Year's and this, and then let's not it.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You know, you have time.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
So we got off the air last night at ten o'clock,
and so I got home and I kind of wound down,
and I went to bed about eleven thirty, and I
was thinking, Okay, normally I get up about six thirty,
but I also I want to get eight hours of sleep.
So I said, okay, well I'm gonna have to sleep
a little bit late, but I can do that because
I planned ahead and I'm gonna have my other stuff
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ready for my day job and other than blah blah
blah blah blah. Right, so I have to work all
of these things out in my head. And then I
wake up at four thirty and I go, oh, I
have this to do, and I have that to do
and I have this to do.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It's okay. I'm supposed to sleep until seven thirty.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Go back to sleep, Go back to sleep, Just go
back to sleep, Go back to sleep, Just go back
to sleep. By five thirty, I've fought long enough and
I just get up. I just can't, and I can't
help but to believe that screens are a big reason
that we are all anxious. I believe that screens are
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having a pretty negative effect on all of us. And
the only evidence I have is me, and so I
I before I went to bed, I was scrolling, and
then when I woke up, I was thinking, well, I
could be scrolling right now, I guess, and maybe I
get some the latest stories and blah bla blah blah,
and it's that.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Nope, it's an addiction.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And I feel sort of bad for upcoming generations, the
Gen Alphas and the Young gen Z, well, the Gen
zs Now grew up with phones in their hands, and
I feel bad for them because they haven't known anything
other than the screens. It really is the digital generation,
and I don't know how they unplug. Now we're trying
to play ketchup by having schools ban phones while the
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kids are in school, and we do have some places
that are trying to be proactive. Australia is looking at
banning social media for people under sixteen.
Speaker 13 (20:37):
For high school students like Zoe, Georgia and Laura, being
on social media is second nature.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
In society nowadays. There's this a lot of foamer, a
lot of fear of missing out.
Speaker 13 (20:47):
But the pit falls are also well known.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I love the Australian accent. It's like an English accent,
but with attitude.
Speaker 13 (20:54):
I have a private account and I only really look
at what my friends are putting out online. I know
quite a few that I am friends with who have
had very negative experiences with social media.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
It can be used as a weapon for bullies, a
vehicle for scammers, worst of all, a tool for online predators.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Hey, speaking of scams, I got a bunch of emails
today from PayPal.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Have you guys seen this? It was so good.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
In fact, I should have saved it. I was getting
h I got add right now. Blame it on the screens.
I was getting scams from PayPal and it came from
service at PayPal dot com and it was saying the
charge is pending or whatever. If if this was not
you call this number immediately right And I thought, this
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is one of those scams where they want you to
call to say that you're being scammed, and then they go, oh,
my goodness, we'll give us the access to your account.
We'll get in there right away. I knew that, I
know that's what it is. But even when I hit reply,
it was supposed to reply to service at PayPal dot com.
They were spoofing that that domain name somehow. I was like, you, turns,
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this is gonna get somebody's grandma. The intentionally they know
you're gonna catch on to the fact that it's a fake,
and then they basically admit this is a fake.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Call us because it's a fake. It's wild. Yeah. I
was gonna say, I have to.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
My dad has to like check in with me when
he gets like he's gotten so many fake ones from
Netflix saying oh, your membership isn't working, Yeah, can you
say it? And I'm like, it doesn't work like that, Dad.
If you don't pay the bill, yeah, they're gonna cancel it.
But if you're still paying, it's fine. So he'll always
has to afford it to me. And then you know,
you check the hyperlinks you look at and then of
course when you go to the email, it's like ten
different numbers and symbols at yes, Netflix, and it's spelled wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now those are pretty obvious, these from from PayPal, because
normally it's the you know, the from. If you go
in there and search where it's really from, you get that.
You know it's a x y QPR four nine at
emos dot edu or something goofy right, yeah, uh, that
was not the case here, and I thought, wow, they
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only had it was actually capitalizing capitalization issues in the email.
Otherwise the spelling was right, and I thought, man, this
is this is pretty good and it's going to get
some people. My wife said send that to me because
she sends it to some guy online that she likes
to listen to.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I think it's is it mister ballin? Is that right?
Does that ring a bell to you? Guys?
Speaker 13 (23:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Okay, I think that's what she said. Anyway, this guy,
he knows what these.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
People are doing and he records it and then he
messes with him and of course it turns it into entertainment.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Oh dang it, I can't remember his name. Yeah, that
was Tom Maybe used to do so. Yeah, Tom Maybe
used to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I know Tom Maybe had had done that with scammers
before and the uh.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
The telemarketers.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But no, this guy gets the scammers and he's got
like a dummy computer and he lets him in so
that they take over his computer and he kind of
describes this is what they're doing now.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, well, the one I'm thinking of is called scammer payback. Yeah.
He uses a fake computer.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, he sets up a fake bank account online with
all the numbers.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, And sometimes like they catch on and sometimes they'll
just he'll like they know that the jig is up,
and so they go, oh, you got me on this,
and he just.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Starts having a conversation, how'd you get involved in this?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And I really needed the money or you know, my
buddy made a bunch of money this way, and I
thought I could do crazy world. Okay, back to what
Australia is doing.
Speaker 13 (24:35):
The Albanezy government warns an age limit enforced, restricting access
to apps for Australian kids. We are seeking to be
the best in the world. Although it's yet to lock
in a specific age between fourteen and sixteen and exactly
how it'll do it, trialing the technology needed. We believe
the age limits should be sixteen and that's why Peter
(24:57):
Dutton announced that. Back in June weekend, the South Australian
government revealed its proposal to ban social media kids under
the age of fourteen. The target there the premiere today
welcoming a nationwide approach. By having a uniform rule across
the country, every parent can look at children in the
eye and say it's not them, this is the law.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Oh that's pretty good too, because as a parent, I'm
I hate to tell my kids no, but all my
friends are doing it, and then I go, that's all right,
your friends are losers, and then they get mad at me.
Parenting is hard. But if you say it's the law,
then listen, my hands are tired. It's the law. I
don't know that that's going to work in the United States,
though I really don't, because there was a study out
(25:40):
that said that even though social media you're not supposed
to have social media under the age of thirteen, all
the social media companies have put like age restrictions on things.
They did a study and they found that eighty percent
of twelve year olds had social media accounts. So why
do they think that banning anybody under six is going
(26:01):
to work any better than banning people under thirteen. It's
just it's not and the kids are going to find
a way to have a social media account and not
let their parents know about it. The only way you
can do it is to not give them phones or
computer access or friends, or you could lock them in
the basement. I suppose homeschooling. Oh maybe homeschooling with no internet.
(26:23):
That seems well, and there's a part of me that
that's very attractive. Mostly, I'm just glad my kids are grown.
I don't have to worry about it anymore, because you
know what they're You know what the kids these days
are finding online. They are finding they're finding the crazy
crap and they're believing it. Wait until you find out
(26:45):
what they're onto. Pick and choose what you want. It's
a choose your own conspiracy. That's it next. Chris Merril,
I am six forty. We live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app in from O Kelly Tonight.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI.
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Chrisparreland promote kill like Hey.
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the Iheartradiot Pleasure being with you tonight.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Got some feedback last night.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
We were talking about the UFO hearing and I said,
it's a terrible idea. And I had somebody that They
didn't call me out so much as they said, what
do you mean a terrible idea? How is that bad?
Let me expound on that a little bit after nine o'clock.
I was able to give it some thought.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And I have concerns. I have concerns.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
So we'll dive into that here a little bit after nine,
because that UFO hearing has got a little bit of chatter,
right we did that. Also, major media sale went down today.
Major according to the purchaser of the media outlet I'm
not gonna give away too much here, they paid a
trillion dollars for it. That is coming up here a
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little bit after nine o'clock as well, so as we
discussed social media, and Australia is looking at a ban
for anybody under the age of sixteen from social media.
I don't think it's gonna go over, but I understand
why they would want to do that because we know
what the implications of mental health that sort of thing.
One of the concerns I have is that social media
is actually making people dumber, not just because it is brain.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Rot, that's one thing.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's actually making people dumber because they are learning misinformation
and they are accepting it as fact. So if the
foundation of your understanding of the world around you is flawed,
what does that do to everything that you build on
that flawed information?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Right? It's bad, bad deal. So here's your headline.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Fast Company had it teams learn a new conspiracy theory
every week on social media, yet most schools aren't teaching
media literacy. There are enough conspiracy theories out there that
we're learning a new one every week, and if you're fourteen,
you don't know how to sift through that stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Right. It's one thing.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
If I'm watching ancient Aliens, which I love, love ancient
Aliens for the same reason I love George Nori, I
don't believe any of it. But I find it to
be fascinating and I love I love that it tickles
my brain bone a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Right, So what about what.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
We're seeing online as far as these conspiracy theories, Well,
these are the more harmful conspiracy theories. These are the
ones that are you know, the vaccines cause autism.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Don't at me.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You're not going to change my mind if you're a
if you're a kock who thinks that vaccines cause autism, it's.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Just send your email to Rob Schneider. He'll listen to you.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I won't if you're exposed to these things as a team. Again,
what does that do with all of the other information.
So let's suppose that you are are fed a bunch
of conspiracy theories about vaccines, and it doesn't help that
the director of the Health and Human Services is one
of them, or the new the incoming one is You're
you're fed this malarchy, right, and then in your mind
(30:00):
go modern medicine is bad. So not only are vaccines about,
what is the other stuff that they're telling you. Maybe
I shouldn't have this, Maybe I shouldn't do that. Maybe
chemotherapy is giving me cancer. Right, it's this sort of
upside down thinking that gets people right. It's this sort
(30:21):
of thing that gets you into this mistrust of the
world around you, and it actually can be very harmful.
All of a sudden, you're not doing what's in your
own best interest. You end up with sovereign citizens who
go I don't have to obey the laws. I don't
recognize them. I'm a sovereign citizen. I saw it online.
And then they go out and they spread this nonsense
through the world, and then we have people who end
(30:42):
up behind bars because they're arguing with judges about how
laws don't apply to them.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Look it up on YouTube. It's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's a whole rabbit hole, and it's wildly entertaining to
watch people get burned. New study from the News Literacy
Project shows again they're exposed to a new piece of
information every week, and.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That is problematic. Also problematic is.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Their inability to distinguish between objective and bias information. In
other words, they don't know the difference between fact and opinion.
This strikes me as difficult to believe because I always
got this. I remember sitting in class in sixth grade
and we were doing these fact versus opinion exercises.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
We were trying to you know, we had a teacher
that was saying, what is a fact? What is an opinion?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And it was sort of the early on introduction to
critical thinking, and it was amazing how many people didn't
didn't understand that.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I had classmates that just didn't get it. And what
happens is.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
A teacher will throw something out like blue is the
best color, and students around me would say, well, I
don't see anything in there that says I think or
in my opinion, blue is the best color. It just
says blue is the best color. It's as fact, but
we know it's opinion, right, And that's because there's no
(32:07):
empirical evidence to say it is somehow the best color, right,
so it is labeled by some as fact. Now it's
an overly simple, simple example. When it comes to these
conspiracy theories online, these things start to permeate because it
starts to give us junk food for our brains. I
(32:27):
told you it's making us dumber, all right, And so
this is why you've got you've got to national governments
that are saying we need to limit social media access
because it's actually making people dumber, it's junk food for
the brains. And think about this like like other age
restricted items that we have in this country, right, like
(32:51):
Winston Salem's Marlborough's camels. Probably what Mark used to smoke
Virginia slims.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Thank you for that? Yeah you want?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
They add nick Team to their product, right, that causes
an addiction. Social media companies are doing the same thing.
They tinker with their recipes in order to alter our
brains as well. They're not trying to make us dumber.
It's just that the dumber we are, the more time
we spend with their product. For metas for tiktoks and twitters,
the recipe is their algorithm, and.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
That keeps feeding you content to.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Make your brain release this trickle of dopamine and dopamine
addiction is what ends up leading to these negative side
effects that you hear about, like loneliness, depression, isolation, all
this stuff. It's also what makes our brains block out
the good information that could potentially be useful. Think about it,
like figuring out what you're gonna have for dinner right
(33:42):
when you're little. You want all that fatty crap, right, Nuggies,
mac and cheese, pizza, all that kind of stuff. When
you get older, you know better, and you know I
need to eat some vegetables. I need to eat some fruits, right,
I need to get enough of the good green. And
when I have enough of this and I start having
it for a few days in a row, I actually
(34:02):
start to feel the positive side effects. Foosh, this is true.
You should try it. Some people figure that out. They go, Okay, look,
I gotta have some salad. For some of us, it's
because we wanted to be regular whatever. But you figure
it out and you start feeling healthier, and you realize,
I have to cut some of the fatty foods out.
Some people live on doritos in mountain dew for their
whole lives. But guess who's healthier. It's the person that
(34:23):
figures out, I have to have some healthy stuff, not
just these things that make me feel happy, right the dorito's,
the potato chips, the sweets, the sodas. If you figure
if you filter out all of the proverbial information superfoods,
(34:44):
and you're left with cravings, you're left with cravings for
good stuff. If all, if all of you have excuse me,
let me rephrase, if you take the superfoods online, and
you fill yourself up with good information online, you don't
have have as many cravings for garbage. Right when you
(35:04):
have garbage, you want more garbage. That's where the conspiracy
theories start to flourish. And that's how we end up
getting dumber, which is why schools got to look into
cell phone uh, you know, moderation, that kind of thing.
But also we have to do a better job of
teaching some of this media literacy. We have to teach
people how to understand and critical thinking fact fiction. How
(35:29):
do we do some of our some of our legitimate research,
How do we find legit sources. These are the things
that schools are going to have to do to adapt,
and I'm afraid they're not doing it right now.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
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Chris Marilyn FROMOTE and if I Am six forty listen
anytime on demand of the iHeartRadio app. The pandemic hit
and people turned into drunks. Two things that we could
do during the pandemic while we were locked down. One
make sourdough. Two drink ourselves into oblivion. Be honest, did
you at any point during the pandemic day drink fellas
(00:30):
you want to get in on this, did you day
drink at all?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's like a rhetorical question.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah, oh no, I really don't because day drinking puts
me to sleep.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Oh right on, right.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
On, I'm not gonna lie. I was doing a lot
of shows from home, and sometimes sometimes a friend of
mine used to visit. Quite the gentleman was Jack had
a boy, had a boy? Eh, listen, got me through
some shows, head relax, right, get through the pandemic. And besides,
(01:05):
it's radio, right, I mean, we're basically still living in
the world of madmen. So a lot of people took
up imbibing a bit stress related drinking.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We saw that happening.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
There was actually an increase in alcohol related deaths, and now,
according to the Anals of Internal Medicine, researchers found that
drinking has increased and persisted since the end of the pandemic.
I think that probably comes as a surprise to no one.
CBS had the story.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
On that ryand Warnikey has been sober for four years.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
I was under the false belief that it's what I
needed to relax. Alcohol was the cure for a bad day,
or what you used to celebrate. The more I used it,
the more I the more I wanted to turn to it.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
The forty year old mother of two says, things got
worse during the pandemic.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
It seemed like more and more people were drinking, more
than ever, so it was kind of more permission or
it validated what I was doing.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
New research shows alcohol use increased among adults during the
COVID nineteen pandemic and continued through twenty twenty two.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Originally, the increase in drinking was due to social isolation,
disruption and daily activity, and general lack of accessibility to
healthcare and mental health care during a really stressful time. However,
we're seeing that these trends are sustained, meaning that either
people don't know where to get help, they don't know
that they need help.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Doctor Divia Iyaala with Thomas Jefferson University Hospital says more
patients are coming in with alcohol related health problems like
severe liver disease. The study also found the increases in
alcohol use were higher for women.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
I think on TikTok and Instagram, we talk about drinking
wine as mommy juice, and it's become a very socially
acceptable way to deal with life.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
I'm a present mom.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It's not just acceptable. We've sort of gotten to the
point where it's almost a it's like a badge of honor.
I mean, there was a Senatenight Live bid. Did you
guys see this. Adie Bryant was was having a party
or something, and people kept bringing her gifts and they
were all those those goofy signs you might get at
(03:21):
nick knack shops or whatever, and it said a wine
a day keeps the children away or something like that, right,
and it just kept getting more and more insane they
had to do with her drinking. We've gotten to the
point where there's a certain, i don't know, kitchy pride
in drinking, especially when it comes to wine and look,
(03:45):
we were even joking about it here about how I
got a friend named Jack, and he's quite a gentleman.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Right, but it is, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Become this weird, socially acceptable thing, and I have to
be a little bit careful how I phrase this, because
I don't want to I don't want to be train
somebody's confidence. But I also want to be able to
share with you a story. I have a I have
a close relationship with somebody else said that I have
a close relationship with somebody who it was fun, We're
(04:15):
gonna go out, We're gonna do some shots. Uh, hey,
come on over, we'll we'll we'll tip one back. And
then I found out after years, I found out this
person had a real problem. And I didn't pick up
on the signs because it was always kind of a
life of the party thing. Right, I look back now
(04:36):
because this person is dealing with it. They're they're in
a program now, and there's a really tough thing. In fact,
I've got two people, come to think about. I had
another friend who we have a group of guys that
meets up in Las Vegas every year, and this guy
couldn't couldn't go with us. He is the life of
the party kind of guy, and he couldn't go with
(04:56):
us because he had to do a detox, And of
course we were get him grief because it was a
group of ten guys, and you know how you know
how guys are. We're like, oh, and you can't do that.
Why don't you detox after you get done with the vegas?
This sort of thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But the reality is.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I kind of felt that, and I feel guilty myself
that I was an enabler along the way and didn't
recognize that these people were in over their heads. Because
when you're hanging out and you're having a good time,
everything seems fun and right. We're all having a we're
all getting along. It's all very social. The alcohol isn't
(05:32):
a focus. It's sort of an enhancer that that kind
of thing, and it's not something I struggled with.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I didn't even I think I've revealed this before.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I was I wasn't the paint of the butt teetotaler,
but I was not somebody who'd ever been drunk.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Until I was twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And then I broke the seal and I made up
for it over the course of the next seven or
ten years and now I just I have it on occasion.
So I didn't recognize some of these signs along the way,
and I feel horrible because my loved ones were suffering
and I.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Didn't recognize it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And so I see a story about how the drinking
during the pandemic increased and for how much of the
country doesn't have a drinking problem. You got a guess
of this one. If you had to guess how much
thirty do not have a drinking problem? Yeah, you think
sixty five percent of the country has a drinking problem.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
Really only based on every story that I read. I myself, Look,
I don't I don't know anyone that drinks. I don't
hang out with people to drink because I had a
problem when I was young drinking, okay, and I had
I had a very very bad problem, Like I was
drunk every day for no reason. And when I gave
that up, that that kind of bites at me. So
(06:53):
to me, I don't I fear being around liquored.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I'm just saying situations. Yeah, i'mkno gonna like oh yeah, yeah, well,
just so I stay away so I don't see it.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
But every time I read it, it seems like sixty
five percent in the country has a drinking problem.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So I think that's the summer of the shark situation.
And by that, I mean when you see a bunch
of news stories about drunk drivers, about something, everybody getting
busted or somebody killed by a drunk driver, or you have,
you know, a celebrity that imbibes too much and they
(07:28):
end up in a car accident or something. It feels
like it's in your face and it's everywhere. But ultimately,
if we think of all the drunk drivers on the road,
we've all encountered it. But in relation to how many
people are actually out there, I feel like the number
of people that have a drinking problem is probably closer
to five percent. It's just that when you have a problem,
it becomes all encompassing. Am I Is that that's fair? Listen,
(07:50):
we can disagree on the stats. That's fine.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But Taala, you said you had a real bad problem.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It did it become and thank you for revealing us
very vulnerable and I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Did that become all encompassing in your world? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (08:02):
Yeah, it got to the point where I would go
and get something to drink in the morning, it got
to be that thing where I felt that needed to
be the thing that kept me going, that kept me like,
that kept me cool, they kept me hanging out. But
after the cool factor were often it became something that
(08:22):
I needed, you know. It became more than trying to
impress friends or hang out or be the life of
the party. It became something that I thought that I
needed to feel good about myself.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And it came depended on it. Yeah, yeah, very much.
So interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So when you walk into crafts, I don't know how
many you probably hang out with a lot of craft stores.
It's probably your weekend hang just hanging over to Michael's.
And you see all these different signs, like you know,
it's one o'clock or whatever it is. I mean, does
that register with the union? You go, Man, that's just everywhere.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
No, sometimes it is, and I think to myself, it's
just ridiculous. And now I've become that person. Like when
I see or hear when I hear music on the
air and they're talking they're talking about hanging out and
drinking and this that, and eth I see that and
shows that I'm filled with a I don't know, like
kind of like a disgust. I see those things and
I go, you look at this, just just shoving it
(09:17):
down our throats.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You know, I have that kind of reaction to it.
That's interesting. I'm fascinated by this.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I am because I you know, we have the story
of the drinking going up during the pandemic, and now
it hasn't come back down, and here you are.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You've turned into a total prude. No, yeah, believe now.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
I literally have not had a drink now going on
twenty to be twenty one years this show.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
How about that?
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Yeah, Like I quit cold turkey wow at my thirtieth
birthday party because I cannot remember it. That's how out
I was. And this is like a day or so later,
I'm waking up and kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Like this got stop. Yeah, yeah, this is this is
this is beyond a problem. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, congratulations for recognizing it instead of getting up and saying, oh, oh
that's bad. I bet I better drink some more. God
bless you for that. Yeah all right, I have no
other points to make you just you nailed it. Thanks buddy,
You're amazing, amazing. So this is gonna feel like a
really clunky segue all of a sudden because I'm going
to go from pandemic drinking to the most amazing school
(10:24):
lunches that are no longer available.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That feels really bad for a segue, Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Because it's in some ways it's gonna be to you.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, okay, how about this? How about this?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
From from alcohol dependency to carb and processed food dependency?
Speaker 9 (10:41):
Boom?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Okay, not quite.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
All right, we're working on it. We'll piece something together.
All right. My fat can is going to talk about
something I can't put down. That is next. That felt better?
All right, there we go.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
All right, So, Chris Marriland from Kelly, I think I
said that one of the things that I've battled my
entire life is my fat can, if I'm being honest,
and part of that reason, I'm convinced.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And I actually saw a study on this recently.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
This said there's no real evidence that processed food is
bad for you. I disagree. I think processed food is terrible,
but I love it. I love it so much, And
I think maybe the processed food isn't necessarily in and
of itself a bad thing. But the processed food keeps
(11:40):
us coming back from more, and that to me is
the biggest issue. In fact, I've been dieting this whole year,
and I've lost a decent amount of weight, and i
feel pretty good about myself. But I've noticed that if
I start to stray from my diet, all of a sudden,
I start to crave more and I don't put the
fork down is quickly, right, I keep having some some cravings.
(12:05):
And so this is why I'm not a big fan
of the processed food, even though I'm gonna hear from
food people out there that say, how dare you? Process
food is fine, there's no evidence process food is bad
for you or whatever, but I think it is. That said,
I'm going to tell you this. I have what my
what my officemate calls an adult lunchable. Every day, he
(12:28):
said to me, the ideas, what is that? What is
that adult lunchable thing called? It's just a Hillshire Farm lunchible.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
But it's like an adult version, yeah right right now.
But yeah, I know what you're talking. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Okay, So it's just it's a cracker, it's a slice
of cheese and it's actual meat. It's not that processed
chunk that you get in the Oscar Meyer lunchables. I
can put away some lunchables though. Man, I love lunchables,
and not only that. Kids love lunchables so much so
they were rejoicing because one year ago on ABC seven
(13:01):
they had this story.
Speaker 10 (13:03):
Well, lunchables will become part of some school lunch programs.
This small only two new varieties will be included in
cafeterias Turkey and cheddar, cracker staggers and extra cheesy.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Pizza Extra cheesy.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I hate when they got fancy with lunchables.
Speaker 10 (13:17):
These are different than those found in grocery stores. The
company says they have improved nutrition that meets federal guidelines
for the National School Lunch Program.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
All right, meets national guidelines lunchables. So how did that
program go over? Well, hmm, it didn't take long before
somebody said that's not good food.
Speaker 11 (13:40):
This morning, Kraft Heinz says it's pulling lunchables from the
National School Lunch Program. It comes after Consumer Reports urged
the government to drop the product from school lunches entirely.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That was consumer reports, that's legit.
Speaker 12 (13:53):
We found relatively high doses of lead, cadmium or both,
and all of them and most also had dale, which
is a chemical used to make plastic that have been
linked to a host of health problems.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Do you ever see the study about microplastics and it
says something like ninety five or ninety nine percent of
people have microplastics in their system now? And there's always
this little bit of me that thinks, maybe I'm special
and not part of that one or five percent that
or maybe I am part of the one or five
percent that don't have microplastics. And then you find out
that microplastics are actually in all of the delicious processed
(14:27):
foods that we've been eating.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, it turns out I'm in the majority.
Speaker 11 (14:31):
Kraft Hinds bet big on it's push to get lunchibles
into schools, modifying the product to comply with federal guidelines.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
The hell was that? But you love TV when they
just have to throw you know, I pull TV stories
and they have to throw some sound effect in randomly.
That was you, No, it wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Is that weird? That's funny? They went to some videos
with federal guideline.
Speaker 11 (14:55):
It is, Yeah, lunchables as a way schools could cut
but nutrition advocates criticized offering processed branded foods and schools,
and Kraft says the demand never materialized.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, why don't they go to what we all grew
up on, delicious rectangles of pizza.
Speaker 11 (15:12):
It's the latest school lunch idea. To face challenges, we
also need to significantly change the quality of food that
kids are getting at school. As First Lady, Michelle Obama
made improving nutrition a priority, resulting in new standards in
twenty ten. Studies showed the standards help lower childhood obesity,
but many schools said the costs were too high, and
one study found students were throwing away sixty percent of
(15:35):
vegetables and forty percent of fruits.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, that is kind of what we do as adults too.
Speaker 11 (15:41):
The Trump administration rolled back the regulations in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Because that was Michelle Obama's thing. Remember she wanted to
have healthy school lunches and all that, and it was like,
we're not going to do this.
Speaker 11 (15:51):
But now, with Robert F. Kennedy expected to play a
major role in the nation's healthcare more changes could be
on the way.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
Oh, I'll get process food out of school lunch immediately.
About half the school lunch program goes to we're creating
diabetes problem and our kids.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I'm giving them food that's poison.
Speaker 11 (16:11):
Andrew Dimbert, ABC News New York.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, giving them food it's poison. And then he was
also bagging on Donald Trump's meals.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Did you see that?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And Trump's still going to make him the Health and
Human Services secretary because he said that Trump keeps putting
poison in his body because he loves McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I mean, I get it. I get it, and I
don't even know what they do with RFK.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
You ever find yourself in this weird situation where RFK
will say something that just sounds batspit crazy and you go,
come on, dude, And then he'll say something, you go,
that makes a lot of sense. I think he's right
about processed foods. I think he said I think he
hit the nail on the head. This is it's bad
for us, and we're giving it to the kids, and
it's bad for the kids, and what are we doing
(16:58):
to the future health of America. I actually agree with
him on that. And then he'll say, we're giving him
brain worms, and well that's a little weird, a little bizarre.
Just finding myself so torn on RFK so torn? How
about oh and also RFK is I think the only
presidential candidate I've ever spoken to. I had a chance
(17:19):
to talk to him last year. I did like a
five minute interview with RFK. So Yes, pretty close to
somebody who was pretty close to somebody who was pretty
close to a president.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yep, that's me, all right?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
How about social ism? Not like you think that's next.
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Had I got anxiety. I was just thinking about this.
I have the week of Thanksgiving. I have to go
see family, and I was just thinking, oh, I need
a little vacation. I'm kind of excited about a little vacation.
And I was just thinking, oh, yeah, but then I'll
be back at work and I have to be at work,
and I'm going to get back to work, and it's
gonna be it'll be December.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And then I got get my Christmas press? What's wrong
with me? Does this happen to you guys?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Where your brain starts worrying about crap that's so far
into the future, and it's not like it's a problem,
it's it's just going to happen, and you just start
getting You're just it's gonna happen, right, And I just
start worrying about this, you.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Know, like all the time.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
For me, it's it's you, yeah, because it's like you think,
like you said, well, I try to always be prepared,
and then I go like, probably a little too far,
and then that's when you start panicking, and it's like
this is two months later down the road, like you said,
Christmas and New Year's and this, and then let's not it.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
You know, you have time.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
So we got off the air last night at ten o'clock,
and so I got home and I kind of wound down,
and I went to bed about eleven thirty, and I
was thinking, Okay, normally I get up about six thirty,
but I also I want to get eight hours of sleep.
So I said, okay, well I'm gonna have to sleep
a little bit late, but I can do that because
I planned ahead and I'm gonna have my other stuff
(19:10):
ready for my day job and other than blah blah
blah blah blah. Right, so I have to work all
of these things out in my head. And then I
wake up at four thirty and I go, oh, I
have this to do, and I have that to do
and I have this to do.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It's okay. I'm supposed to sleep until seven thirty.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Go back to sleep, Go back to sleep, Just go
back to sleep, Go back to sleep, Just go back
to sleep. By five thirty, I've fought long enough and
I just get up. I just can't, and I can't
help but to believe that screens are a big reason
that we are all anxious. I believe that screens are
(19:43):
having a pretty negative effect on all of us. And
the only evidence I have is me, and so I
I before I went to bed, I was scrolling, and
then when I woke up, I was thinking, well, I
could be scrolling right now, I guess, and maybe I
get some the latest stories and blah bla blah blah,
and it's that.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Nope, it's an addiction.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And I feel sort of bad for upcoming generations, the
Gen Alphas and the Young gen Z, well, the Gen
zs Now grew up with phones in their hands, and
I feel bad for them because they haven't known anything
other than the screens. It really is the digital generation,
and I don't know how they unplug. Now we're trying
to play ketchup by having schools ban phones while the
(20:25):
kids are in school, and we do have some places
that are trying to be proactive. Australia is looking at
banning social media for people under sixteen.
Speaker 13 (20:37):
For high school students like Zoe, Georgia and Laura, being
on social media is second nature.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
In society nowadays. There's this a lot of foamer, a
lot of fear of missing out.
Speaker 13 (20:47):
But the pit falls are also well known.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I love the Australian accent. It's like an English accent,
but with attitude.
Speaker 13 (20:54):
I have a private account and I only really look
at what my friends are putting out online. I know
quite a few that I am friends with who have
had very negative experiences with social media.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
It can be used as a weapon for bullies, a
vehicle for scammers, worst of all, a tool for online predators.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Hey, speaking of scams, I got a bunch of emails
today from PayPal.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Have you guys seen this? It was so good.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
In fact, I should have saved it. I was getting
h I got add right now. Blame it on the screens.
I was getting scams from PayPal and it came from
service at PayPal dot com and it was saying the
charge is pending or whatever. If if this was not
you call this number immediately right And I thought, this
(21:42):
is one of those scams where they want you to
call to say that you're being scammed, and then they go, oh,
my goodness, we'll give us the access to your account.
We'll get in there right away. I knew that, I
know that's what it is. But even when I hit reply,
it was supposed to reply to service at PayPal dot com.
They were spoofing that that domain name somehow. I was like, you, turns,
(22:03):
this is gonna get somebody's grandma. The intentionally they know
you're gonna catch on to the fact that it's a fake,
and then they basically admit this is a fake.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Call us because it's a fake. It's wild. Yeah. I
was gonna say, I have to.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
My dad has to like check in with me when
he gets like he's gotten so many fake ones from
Netflix saying oh, your membership isn't working, Yeah, can you
say it? And I'm like, it doesn't work like that, Dad.
If you don't pay the bill, yeah, they're gonna cancel it.
But if you're still paying, it's fine. So he'll always
has to afford it to me. And then you know,
you check the hyperlinks you look at and then of
course when you go to the email, it's like ten
different numbers and symbols at yes, Netflix, and it's spelled wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now those are pretty obvious, these from from PayPal, because
normally it's the you know, the from. If you go
in there and search where it's really from, you get that.
You know it's a x y QPR four nine at
emos dot edu or something goofy right, yeah, uh, that
was not the case here, and I thought, wow, they
(23:05):
only had it was actually capitalizing capitalization issues in the email.
Otherwise the spelling was right, and I thought, man, this
is this is pretty good and it's going to get
some people. My wife said send that to me because
she sends it to some guy online that she likes
to listen to.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I think it's is it mister ballin? Is that right?
Does that ring a bell to you? Guys?
Speaker 13 (23:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Okay, I think that's what she said. Anyway, this guy,
he knows what these.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
People are doing and he records it and then he
messes with him and of course it turns it into entertainment.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Oh dang it, I can't remember his name. Yeah, that
was Tom Maybe used to do so. Yeah, Tom Maybe
used to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I know Tom Maybe had had done that with scammers
before and the uh.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
The telemarketers.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But no, this guy gets the scammers and he's got
like a dummy computer and he lets him in so
that they take over his computer and he kind of
describes this is what they're doing now.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, well, the one I'm thinking of is called scammer payback. Yeah.
He uses a fake computer.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, he sets up a fake bank account online with
all the numbers.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, And sometimes like they catch on and sometimes they'll
just he'll like they know that the jig is up,
and so they go, oh, you got me on this,
and he just.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Starts having a conversation, how'd you get involved in this?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And I really needed the money or you know, my
buddy made a bunch of money this way, and I
thought I could do crazy world. Okay, back to what
Australia is doing.
Speaker 13 (24:35):
The Albanezy government warns an age limit enforced, restricting access
to apps for Australian kids. We are seeking to be
the best in the world. Although it's yet to lock
in a specific age between fourteen and sixteen and exactly
how it'll do it, trialing the technology needed. We believe
the age limits should be sixteen and that's why Peter
(24:57):
Dutton announced that. Back in June weekend, the South Australian
government revealed its proposal to ban social media kids under
the age of fourteen. The target there the premiere today
welcoming a nationwide approach. By having a uniform rule across
the country, every parent can look at children in the
eye and say it's not them, this is the law.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Oh that's pretty good too, because as a parent, I'm
I hate to tell my kids no, but all my
friends are doing it, and then I go, that's all right,
your friends are losers, and then they get mad at me.
Parenting is hard. But if you say it's the law,
then listen, my hands are tired. It's the law. I
don't know that that's going to work in the United States,
though I really don't, because there was a study out
(25:40):
that said that even though social media you're not supposed
to have social media under the age of thirteen, all
the social media companies have put like age restrictions on things.
They did a study and they found that eighty percent
of twelve year olds had social media accounts. So why
do they think that banning anybody under six is going
(26:01):
to work any better than banning people under thirteen. It's
just it's not and the kids are going to find
a way to have a social media account and not
let their parents know about it. The only way you
can do it is to not give them phones or
computer access or friends, or you could lock them in
the basement. I suppose homeschooling. Oh maybe homeschooling with no internet.
(26:23):
That seems well, and there's a part of me that
that's very attractive. Mostly, I'm just glad my kids are grown.
I don't have to worry about it anymore, because you
know what they're You know what the kids these days
are finding online. They are finding they're finding the crazy
crap and they're believing it. Wait until you find out
(26:45):
what they're onto. Pick and choose what you want. It's
a choose your own conspiracy. That's it next. Chris Merril,
I am six forty. We live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
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Speaker 1 (26:55):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
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Speaker 2 (27:02):
If I am six forty, listen anytime on demand on
the Iheartradiot Pleasure being with you tonight.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Got some feedback last night.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
We were talking about the UFO hearing and I said,
it's a terrible idea. And I had somebody that They
didn't call me out so much as they said, what
do you mean a terrible idea? How is that bad?
Let me expound on that a little bit after nine o'clock.
I was able to give it some thought.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And I have concerns. I have concerns.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
So we'll dive into that here a little bit after nine,
because that UFO hearing has got a little bit of chatter,
right we did that. Also, major media sale went down today.
Major according to the purchaser of the media outlet I'm
not gonna give away too much here, they paid a
trillion dollars for it. That is coming up here a
(27:50):
little bit after nine o'clock as well, so as we
discussed social media, and Australia is looking at a ban
for anybody under the age of sixteen from social media.
I don't think it's gonna go over, but I understand
why they would want to do that because we know
what the implications of mental health that sort of thing.
One of the concerns I have is that social media
is actually making people dumber, not just because it is brain.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Rot, that's one thing.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's actually making people dumber because they are learning misinformation
and they are accepting it as fact. So if the
foundation of your understanding of the world around you is flawed,
what does that do to everything that you build on
that flawed information?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Right? It's bad, bad deal. So here's your headline.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Fast Company had it teams learn a new conspiracy theory
every week on social media, yet most schools aren't teaching
media literacy. There are enough conspiracy theories out there that
we're learning a new one every week, and if you're fourteen,
you don't know how to sift through that stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Right. It's one thing.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
If I'm watching ancient Aliens, which I love, love ancient
Aliens for the same reason I love George Nori, I
don't believe any of it. But I find it to
be fascinating and I love I love that it tickles
my brain bone a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Right, So what about what.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
We're seeing online as far as these conspiracy theories, Well,
these are the more harmful conspiracy theories. These are the
ones that are you know, the vaccines cause autism.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Don't at me.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You're not going to change my mind if you're a
if you're a kock who thinks that vaccines cause autism, it's.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Just send your email to Rob Schneider. He'll listen to you.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I won't if you're exposed to these things as a team. Again,
what does that do with all of the other information.
So let's suppose that you are are fed a bunch
of conspiracy theories about vaccines, and it doesn't help that
the director of the Health and Human Services is one
of them, or the new the incoming one is You're
you're fed this malarchy, right, and then in your mind
(30:00):
go modern medicine is bad. So not only are vaccines about,
what is the other stuff that they're telling you. Maybe
I shouldn't have this, Maybe I shouldn't do that. Maybe
chemotherapy is giving me cancer. Right, it's this sort of
upside down thinking that gets people right. It's this sort
(30:21):
of thing that gets you into this mistrust of the
world around you, and it actually can be very harmful.
All of a sudden, you're not doing what's in your
own best interest. You end up with sovereign citizens who
go I don't have to obey the laws. I don't
recognize them. I'm a sovereign citizen. I saw it online.
And then they go out and they spread this nonsense
through the world, and then we have people who end
(30:42):
up behind bars because they're arguing with judges about how
laws don't apply to them.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Look it up on YouTube. It's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's a whole rabbit hole, and it's wildly entertaining to
watch people get burned. New study from the News Literacy
Project shows again they're exposed to a new piece of
information every week, and.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That is problematic. Also problematic is.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Their inability to distinguish between objective and bias information. In
other words, they don't know the difference between fact and opinion.
This strikes me as difficult to believe because I always
got this. I remember sitting in class in sixth grade
and we were doing these fact versus opinion exercises.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
We were trying to you know, we had a teacher
that was saying, what is a fact? What is an opinion?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And it was sort of the early on introduction to
critical thinking, and it was amazing how many people didn't
didn't understand that.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I had classmates that just didn't get it. And what
happens is.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
A teacher will throw something out like blue is the
best color, and students around me would say, well, I
don't see anything in there that says I think or
in my opinion, blue is the best color. It just
says blue is the best color. It's as fact, but
we know it's opinion, right, And that's because there's no
(32:07):
empirical evidence to say it is somehow the best color, right,
so it is labeled by some as fact. Now it's
an overly simple, simple example. When it comes to these
conspiracy theories online, these things start to permeate because it
starts to give us junk food for our brains. I
(32:27):
told you it's making us dumber, all right, And so
this is why you've got you've got to national governments
that are saying we need to limit social media access
because it's actually making people dumber, it's junk food for
the brains. And think about this like like other age
restricted items that we have in this country, right, like
(32:51):
Winston Salem's Marlborough's camels. Probably what Mark used to smoke
Virginia slims.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Thank you for that? Yeah you want?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
They add nick Team to their product, right, that causes
an addiction. Social media companies are doing the same thing.
They tinker with their recipes in order to alter our
brains as well. They're not trying to make us dumber.
It's just that the dumber we are, the more time
we spend with their product. For metas for tiktoks and twitters,
the recipe is their algorithm, and.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
That keeps feeding you content to.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Make your brain release this trickle of dopamine and dopamine
addiction is what ends up leading to these negative side
effects that you hear about, like loneliness, depression, isolation, all
this stuff. It's also what makes our brains block out
the good information that could potentially be useful. Think about it,
like figuring out what you're gonna have for dinner right
(33:42):
when you're little. You want all that fatty crap, right, Nuggies,
mac and cheese, pizza, all that kind of stuff. When
you get older, you know better, and you know I
need to eat some vegetables. I need to eat some fruits, right,
I need to get enough of the good green. And
when I have enough of this and I start having
it for a few days in a row, I actually
(34:02):
start to feel the positive side effects. Foosh, this is true.
You should try it. Some people figure that out. They go, Okay, look,
I gotta have some salad. For some of us, it's
because we wanted to be regular whatever. But you figure
it out and you start feeling healthier, and you realize,
I have to cut some of the fatty foods out.
Some people live on doritos in mountain dew for their
whole lives. But guess who's healthier. It's the person that
(34:23):
figures out, I have to have some healthy stuff, not
just these things that make me feel happy, right the dorito's,
the potato chips, the sweets, the sodas. If you figure
if you filter out all of the proverbial information superfoods,
(34:44):
and you're left with cravings, you're left with cravings for
good stuff. If all, if all of you have excuse me,
let me rephrase, if you take the superfoods online, and
you fill yourself up with good information online, you don't
have have as many cravings for garbage. Right when you
(35:04):
have garbage, you want more garbage. That's where the conspiracy
theories start to flourish. And that's how we end up
getting dumber, which is why schools got to look into
cell phone uh, you know, moderation, that kind of thing.
But also we have to do a better job of
teaching some of this media literacy. We have to teach
people how to understand and critical thinking fact fiction. How
(35:29):
do we do some of our some of our legitimate research,
How do we find legit sources. These are the things
that schools are going to have to do to adapt,
and I'm afraid they're not doing it right now.
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