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November 15, 2024 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Special Guest Host Chris Merrill filling in ‘Later, for Mo’Kelly’ with a look at how the LAUSD cell phone ban will work AND the Glendale police center’s plan to increase access to surveillance footage throughout the city…PLUS – Thoughts on the shocking footage of a brown bear tearing up an expensive car in Lake Arrowhead that turned out to be a person dressed in a bear costume - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am sixty.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Chris Merrill and from O Kelly Listen anytime on demand
of the iHeart Radio app.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Pleasure being back with you again tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
It is fantastic and always an honor to follow the
great Tim Conway Jr. Who is one of my favorites
in the entire business. So it's always uh, it's always enjoyable.
I love listening to Tim. I sit here and I
prep and I listened to Tim, and I think about
the International Space Station and I wish I could get
out there. But Toawala said, I had to work on
the show. Kiwala is a mean, mean producer. But as

(00:38):
a result, the show is I'm gonna say mediocre plus tonight,
I'm feeling solid about this, feeling really good. You remember
that Kamala harris slogan, we won't go back, never again.
That's what she was saying, we won't go back, And
that crossed my mind when I saw story about gas

(01:01):
prices nationwide. Gas prices nationwide are ticking down, which is great,
including here. They're ticking down, except that the headline, the
headline makes me think never again. We won't go back.
Gas prices will drop below three dollars before Thanksgiving, according
to an analyst, but not in California. And never again.

(01:21):
We will never go back to three dollars a gallon.
Ever again, I shouldn't say never. There may come a
time where everybody's moved on to some other alternative fuel source,
and so now all of a sudden, nobody needs gas
and it drops way down. But that's a long way off.
Probably not in my life. Then, be realistic in our lifetimes,

(01:44):
I don't think so. I know we've set ambitious goals
in California to go electric vehicles in the next ten
years or whatever, but I just don't see it happening.
And honestly, you guys, ever, think about how much time
you got left. I mean, I start thinking about reatan
I got about twenty years before I get the retired.
Will we have well, I no longer have any need

(02:07):
for gasoline in the next twenty years. Probably not, And
I'll tell you why. It's not the vehicle. I'm not
opposed to electric vehicles. I have three hybrids to me,
I have two and I sold one to my son
who still lives with me. So I got three in
the in the in the driveway. But the infrastructure will

(02:28):
catch up in the next twenty years. So that's good.
Technology may advance and maybe we won't even be looking
at electrics in the next twenty years. That's entirely possible.
But this is very non California of me. My wife
and I have a little cottage in my hometown in
northern Michigan, and infrastructure there is gonna be a little

(02:48):
slow to catch up. But still there's electric vehicles there. Okay,
So we go there for a few months in the summer.
It's glorious. I love it. It's cool, it's wonderful, it's beautiful,
families there, all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
We got a boat and it's just a little pon tune.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
But I gotta tell you there's probably not gonna be
much in the way of electric boat motors in the
in the near future. And don't tell me, oh, there
already are electric I no, not really, not really. Yeah,
I can get a trolling motor, and no, no, we're
a long ways off from electric powerboat motors that are
going to be the reliable. And frankly, it's tough to

(03:25):
find a charging station in the middle of a Lake,
and two they don't have the restrictions on gasoline powered
I guess lawn equipment or things like that. So I
still like to have a lawnmower that's not electric, although
some white neighbors have some. But here's the big one.
My folks have some. They have a few acres here, right,

(03:48):
and they got a little tractor. It's legit. I mean,
it's bigger than a lawn tractor. It's not like one
that you would go do a big field then, but
it's a it's a tractor. It runs on diesel, and frankly,
I just don't see a lot of armor slipping over
to electric in order to make the demand necessary. So
I gotta tell you I'm not seeing me transitioning away
from all gasoline or diesel for that matter, in the

(04:09):
next twenty thirty years, because honestly, I don't plan on
living much more than ten after I retire.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
It's fair.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I'm fat, you got heart problems, it's not gonna happen,
So that's unlikely. Here's why it stinks more in California, though.
When you read a story that says gas prices around
the country are going to drop to an average of
just below three dollars, and that is because our gas
prices are about to go up.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Now, maybe you heard the story. I've discussed this on
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
But if you, if somehow you have slipped through the
cracks and not caught what's coming, We're about to get
hosed in the UH on the Gold Coaster.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Nationally, the average is three zero nine a gallon. That
is down from this time last year when it was
three forty. All of that not meaning much to us
here though, right we've.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Got some of the most expensive gases you might know
right now, California's average.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Fourth CBS Sacramento. God, this guy's got a great voice,
doesn't he. I'm so jealous of people with the good
I work in radio and my voice sucks, and these
guys are this. Gases are dropping in prices. Of course,
it's expensive here, which I could do.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
That fifty two a gallon, that's nearly a dollar how
much you say, might know? Right now, California's average four
fifty two a gallon. That's nearly a dollar fifty more
than the rest of the country.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
And now, within the past hour, the California Air Resources
Board voted on a new low carbon fuel standard critics
say this new plan will continue to drive up your
gas prices.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Your report, Madison Keatheny has been looking into this, getting
answers tonight on the impact to our Madon.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
This was a marathon meeting, twelve hours long, and there
were weeks of political pushback. CARB approved updates to that
climate program that's aimed at reducing planet warming emissions from
transportation fuels, one that's expected to raise gas prices.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, we're gonna make gas safer, and of course that
means we're going to see it get more expensive.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
For twelve gallons fifty three dollars.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Gas prices in California the second highest in the country,
only behind Hawaii. Are gas taxes the highest.

Speaker 7 (06:07):
Said, a little bit painful to.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
The pocket, cut into our budget.

Speaker 8 (06:11):
Or you know, we work, so sometime we go buy lunch,
so basically taking our lunch money.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
Too the California Air resources.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Well, that would be good.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I mean, we could fight the obesity rate by simply
raising gas prices.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
This board spent twelve hours Friday discussing proposed changes to
the state's Low Carbon Fuel Standard shortened to LCFS.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Madam share the motion passes.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
All right, you get it.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
So low carbon fuel standards, prices are going to go up.
But a twelve hour meeting, this is absolute garbage. Think
of it this way. You go into these meetings, they
sit there and they placate everybody that speaks for twelve hours,

(06:55):
and what do they do in the end, They vote
the same way they were going to when they walked in.
It is nothing more than a charade to make people
feel as though they have been heard.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
It's it's not at all unlike.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
To the you go to the store and you're trying
to return an item and you go back and they say,
do you have your receipt And you go, I don't
have my receipt, but I bought it here and here's
my credit card, and you can look it up on
your system. I have a rewards code. You can just
look it up by my rewards card. And they say, oh, well,
we can't actually look things up by the rewards card.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
What do you mean you can't look it up by.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
The reward The whole reason I have a rewards card
is so that you can track my purchases so that
you can target me in the future. And you're telling
me now that you can't see what I bought, I
call BS, and then you start getting frustrated. Now, I'm
not somebody that gets angry with customer service people because
I don't see the point, but I will say things like, Okay, look,

(07:53):
I'm quite frustrated by this. I just want to return
this this item. Can I talk to the customer service
manager and they go, uh, of course, And they're always
happy to do it because it means they don't have
to deal with you anymore. So they go get their
manager and the manager comes out, Hello, sir, how can
I help you? And I go, look, I'm trying to
return this item. I bought it here. I don't have
my receipt, but I did use my credit card. You

(08:14):
can look it up by my credit card, or I
use my rewards card and you can check it out
by my rewards card.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I'm sorry, sir, we can't do that. Why can't you
do that? Oh?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
We can't see what customers purchase using the rewards card,
which again is total bunk.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
But they're gonna let me vent. They're not gonna give
you what I want.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
They might give me a coupon for you know, five
percent off in order to placate me, but they're not
gonna give me what I actually came there for. They
will listen to me, and they'll they'll make me feel
like at least they heard my gripe. That's exactly what
the California Air Resources Board does when they sit there
for twelve hours. And I would argue that's what every
government body does when they have a big vote, especially
a controversial one, and they're trying to tell you, we

(08:54):
hear your concerns, and it's a very difficult decision, and
we decided to do what we believe.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Was in the best interest of all Californians.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
And you go, that's bologny, because look, we got guys
that are skipping lunch because they can't afford gas, and
you're gonna raise the price of gas. Very frustrating, and
I know the environment, we got to keep it safe.
I'm all about that. I told you I'm slowly getting
toward alternative fuels. But I just feel as though they're

(09:25):
an awful lot of people who don't give a damn
what you and I actually say or what our beliefs
actually are, because they're just gonna do what they wanted
to do anyway.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
And it's very frustrating and.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
This is why I think a lot of people they
go to the polls and they vote out the they
vote out the incumbents. They want change because they're not
they're not being hurt. They're being told that they're being
listened to, but they're not.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
It's very frustrating.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
All right, big change coming to the schools, Big change.
Governor Batman has been trying to get the whole state
to ban cell phones. So far, the schools have not
banned cell phones on a statewide level, but there are
a number of major districts that are banning cell phones.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
How's that going to be implicated?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Excuse me? How's that going to be implemented? And then
what happens if? I mean, it's a big question we
all have. What if there's a school shooting? How do
I get ahold of my kid? That's next.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Okay, So you are probably familiar that the man who
looks more like Bruce Wayne than Bruce Wayne does. Governor
Newsom is calling for a statewide cell phone ban in schools.
You've probably heard the story before, and he says, listen
a lot of schools are already looking into this. A
lot of schools are trying to figure out their own
cell phone policies. LAUSD is the largest obviously in the state,

(10:52):
and now they are instituting a cell phone ban. They're
getting ready to say no more cell phones to distract
people in school. As a pair, and I have thoughts
on this. I want to be able to get ahold
of my kids. I want to frankly, I want to
track my kids. I know it sounds it's not creepy,
it sounds like a helicopter parent. I don't mean for

(11:14):
it to be a helicopter parent, but I do want
to know what my kids are up to.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I want to know where they are, and I want
to know.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
What the what they're doing, where they are and if
they're safe. And then, let's face it, school shootings are
a reality. Kids have to do active shooter drills in
school right and what happens as soon as we hear
that there's an active shooter situation.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Parents want to know where their kids are.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
They try to call their kids at the very least,
but they definitely want to see where the kids are.
They want to get ahold of them and say are
you okay. Kids want to send a message say I'm okay,
or they want to say I love you, whatever it is.
Those are the situations, and those are extraordinarily rare, but
not rare enough, And so as a parent, I'm a
little bit concerned with that. All in all, when I

(11:58):
weigh what's the likelihood that there's going to be a
situation where I have to get ahold of them in
an active shooter scenario, versus what are the odds that
my kid is going to be distracted and not get
the education they need that's going to serve them to
the rest of their lives. I kind of think we
get rid of the cell phones. I think that's a
good idea. Here's the deal on the cell phone ban.
This is Katla reporting.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
On this one policy will take it back to mid February.

Speaker 9 (12:21):
It will not only apply to cell phones, but also
smart watches and any other device that can be used
for calling, messaging, or.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Using the internet.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
Phones won't be allowed during lunch or break time, and
each campus will decide how the device is will be
stored or locked up.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
So now you can't even have a smart watch. Yeah,
I guess I could text. I've got a smart watch
on right now. I guess I could text, but I'm old,
so I use my smart watch to make sure I
don't have a heart problem.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
You guys, have you used the smart watches? So this
is actually really cool.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
My wife got it for me because she's very sweet
and she's very pretty, and she's the best person in
the world.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
She's listening. But also.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
So, I had an issue with atrial fibrillation and my
cardiologist says, how do you know you go into it?
And I said, well, I can feel it. I can
take you know, I feel my symptoms are I get
really anxious. Some people get shortness of breath, fatigue, that
kind of thing. I get real anxious and I will
get tired, okay, but I can take my pulse and
I can feel that the rhythm is off. And I said,

(13:22):
well I can feel it, and he says, do you
have any other Do you have any other way? I said, well,
my watch will do. It'll do in in ECG on
my wrist and he said, that's cool. So I've actually
used that before, not only to indicate that I was
in atrial fibrillation. I was scheduled to have what do
they call it, you know, when they shock you so

(13:45):
and I'm my brain's farting right now. I was scheduled
to have that done. The day that I was supposed
to go in to have that that restart deal done
where they can clear uh. I came out of it
and my watch said nope, you're good. So I called
my cardiologist and they said, do I still need to
come in because I don't need to be shocked anymore.
And he said, send me the ECG from your watch

(14:07):
and he said, looks good.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Let's getch you in next week.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
We'll do a full one because you know, they want
to charge you like six hundred dollars to do one
with more leads on it. And they did and everything
was cool. So I still use it to check and
make sure and I'm straight. But for kids, yeah, I
guess they could do some texting and things like that
on their phones. It could be distracting around their watches.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
We just spoke to the superintendent about it.

Speaker 9 (14:28):
With the implementation of the Cell Phone Band, students will
finally be separated from mobile phones during the regular school day,
allowing them to be the kids they are.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Man, that's like and kids are so addicted to their
cell phones. That's like telling a drunk they can't take
a drink, right, they're going to start getting the.

Speaker 10 (14:45):
Shakes, allowing them to socially interact with peers of their age,
allowing them to not be distracted in a classroom.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Maybe we don't do this during a pep.

Speaker 9 (14:54):
Rally, Individual schools are being given several choices for how
to keep students off their phones. While it would be
required hiring, they be kept in backpacks all day, or
locked in storage units, or placed in hanging classroom phone holders,
or in specialized pouches individual ones that are sealed.

Speaker 7 (15:09):
For the day.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, and then what do the kids do?

Speaker 9 (15:12):
Students violate the band Ella Unified says they would receive
multiple warnings, first verbal, then referral to a counselor, then
outreach to a parent or guardian, then potentially phone confiscation.
Now there are a number of schools that already do this.
For example, my step children go to a middle school
where they are not allowed to have their phones.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Hey, anybody here have step kids?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Negatory on that?

Speaker 3 (15:34):
No, No, I do, I got kid kids? You got
KIK kids? Yeah? All right, well good job.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
You know trojans are cheap, so I've got I got
three step kids. I've never referred to them as my stepkids.
I always referred to as my kids. They like to
be called the spares. Oh yeah, the extors. Have you
have you considered putting chips in them like pets?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Oh? I think we should chip everybody. You're kidding.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
The crime rate would exactly if we just started chipping
in on over. Oh you can't chip me, you know what, Yeah,
we can't. We're gonna chip you and crime is gonna
drop right off. And as soon as you do something wrong,
you're getting a little shock.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
We're gonna put it in the back of your neck.
You'll never notice it unless you do something wrong, and
then we're gonna shock you like a dog.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
They do this. For example, my step children go to
a middle school.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
It feels creepy where.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
They are not allowed to have their phones. They have
to keep them in their backpacks or out of sight,
and if they are seen or heard, they get.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
Confiscated until the end of the week and can be
picked up on Fridays. That works really well. On the
other hand, we have.

Speaker 9 (16:31):
A colleague whose daughter goes to a school where kids
have to put the phones in locked bags for the day.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
She said, they basically find a.

Speaker 9 (16:38):
Phone laying around the house, an old phone that's not
in use, yep, and they put that in the bag.
It's basically a decoy and then they continue to have
their actual phone.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
For the day.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
See little bastards.

Speaker 9 (16:49):
You can see there are ways the kids will find
to get around some of these measures.

Speaker 7 (16:54):
I'm sure that.

Speaker 9 (16:55):
Will all be discussed as schools figure out how to
implement this exactly. What about emergencies though, that'saying that parents
have concerns.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
About this is my concern, all right, So what are
we doing in case of an emergency?

Speaker 9 (17:05):
How to reach their child in the case of an emergency? Well,
I did ask a superintendent.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
About that, and what did he say?

Speaker 7 (17:10):
I'll have more at twelve o'clock. That's the latest life
here in Hyde Park. I'll send about you tease.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh my, that's awful. This is a problem that we
brought on ourselves. And let me tell you why. I
moved here to California in twenty twelve and we were
in San Diego. My daughter was a freshman in high school.
She was going in to Tory Pines and so she
goes Tory Pines. Didn't have cell phone. And my other

(17:38):
son was in eighth grade. So she gets Tory Pines
and she goes, I want a phone. I want a phone.
We said, you don't need a phone. You don't need
a phone. You're fourteen. I think she was thirteen going
into you know, freshman year. You don't need a phone.
You don't need a phone. She comes home and she says,
I have to have a phone for school. You don't
need a phone. She said, we're getting assignments that are
on an app, and I have to have the app

(18:00):
to turn in my assignments. And I said, well that's baloney.
I wasn't born yesterday. And she got very frustrated. Talk
to the teacher. The teacher said, oh, yeah, all the
assignments are on the app, and that's how they that's
how they submit the assignments. So at one point we
were trying to kind of get ahead of the curve
and integrate phones because we knew kids were using them
and how do we use phones to our advantage? And

(18:21):
now we went, well, that didn't work. So now we've
trained kids. And it was a policy that you had
to have a phone for a long time, which seems
re aggressive to people that couldn't afford him, and and
then all of a sudden they say, oh.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Just kidding, we can't do that.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
So frustrating, we created this monster. Speaking of monsters, big
brother is watching. There's more eyes in the sky, and
not the kind to give you traffic updates either.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
That's next. Chris Merril, CAFI AM six forty in from
O Kelly.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Chris Merrill in from O Kelly, KFI AM six forty
Listen anytime on demand of the Eye Heart Radio app.
It's the eye and the sky and not the traffic kind.
That's the good stuff. No, that is not what we're seeing.
We are being watched, but it's for your own safety.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Trust us. We're from the government.

Speaker 8 (19:13):
Hollywood maybe the film capital of the world, but Glendale
is hoping to be the camera capital. Hundreds of them
are up and running throughout the city and starting today
routed into this six person control room inside the Glendale
Police Department.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
This is going to make us better at what we do.

Speaker 8 (19:31):
On two there we go Glendale today officially.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
And then they cut the ribbon on it. We're watching
center that feels very or William.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
Fully opening what it calls the Real Time Intelligence Center
nickname Arctic. The one million dollar Arctic system taps into
traffic cameras, air support cameras, as well as body worn
cameras and dash camps.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Okay, so they've taken all the cameras that are out there,
and then they they brought them together so that they
could watch everything.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I think we've seen this before. I think doesn't England
have this?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Don't they have this kind of thing in London around
that It seems like they've got the CC camera system
all over the place. Oh yeah, if you watch that
I five show, that's how they solve everything.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
They do.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Everything's on the CCTV. Yeah. And then there was a
show that was on I think I want to say
CBS had it a few years ago. It's called person
of Interest. Oh yeah, they used to do you know
what I'm talking about. Absolutely, they use that to try
to track everybody too. And of course that was a
TV show. Whatever. Oh no, it's happening, it's here.

Speaker 8 (20:37):
It provides a comprehensive view of the city, so officers
have a better view of what's happening.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
When a call comes in.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
And I understand, here's the thing on all of this stuff,
the surveillance things, all the I understand from a law
enforcement standpoint.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Why you would want this.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
You would say, this is a tool that allows us
to do our job better, more efficiently, keep the city
safer to crime, all that sort of stuff. I understand
the perspective of law enforcement and why they would want
to do that. But also I don't like the idea
that I'm being watched all the time. I don't like
that I'm always on somebody's camera.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
It's about responding to emergencies more efficiently, yep, I just
said that.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Solving investigations more effectively.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
You just said that, and creating a safer environment. I
should have let her say it.

Speaker 8 (21:25):
Starting next year, Glendale hopes to expand its camera network
to private businesses, hospitals, and schools that want to participate.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Feels very Patriot Act, doesn't it.

Speaker 8 (21:35):
The city saying privacy issues are already being considered.

Speaker 10 (21:39):
We're not looking at anybody's backyard yet, you know their
businesses are going to point out onto someone's sidewalk, open parking, lots,
things of that nature, and there will be controls around
our access to some of those cameras when they get
into some of more of those sensitive areas.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Until they get hacked.

Speaker 8 (21:55):
Now the Arctic is being man twenty four to seven.
It's also going to be used by the fire department
and other city departments like public works.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
So I was looking into this a little bit and
they've got just a massive network of cameras. I mean massive,
and they've got again it's a million dollar facility that
they're using in order to monitor things. But a million
dollars to monitor all the cameras, it's just not enough.
It is a six person control room at the HQ

(22:26):
at the Arctic, the Real Time Information Center Intelligence at
Real Time Intelligence Center, So six people watching these cameras.
They use traffic cams, police dash cams, body worn cameras,
and then video from drones and helicopters, and that's what
you just heard them describe. But six people to watch
all of that stuff. There's no way. And I'm being

(22:50):
I'm not even joking when I say this. There is
a way if we just say, fine, we're doing it.
And I'm not a big fan of doing this. I
don't like the idea of being watched. I'm the guy
who drives the speed limit, much to the chagrin of
everyone I've ever spoken to. You realize, I've never done

(23:11):
a radio show where people go good for you driving
the speed limit and following the law. Mark if you
ever had my back on this, I don't think you have. Oh,
of course, whatever, you're liar, No, no, please proceed. You're
a liar. Twala. I'm the guy you hate because I'm
driving the speed limit on the freeway, right, I mean,
if you can go the speed limit, right, you hate me.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Well, we wish people would please drive the speed I
don't hate that, you don't.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
No, I'm buying you a Christmas present.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Now, That's why I don't mind that at all. I really,
I'm the person who despises the people who drive like
there's no one else on the freeway and they're auditioning
for fast and the Fears or something. Yeah, I can't
stand there, and they get so angry with you for
for going the speed limit. They flash their lights behind
you and they want you to get out of the way.
And you're going, I'm going, I'm going sixty five, what
a seventy?

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Whatever it is, right, I'm going, Oh no, they get
very angry. Most people do. And I understand I'm in
the minority. I get it.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I get it, but drives me nuts. That said. I
don't like speed cameras, I don't like red light cameras.
I don't like being watched. I always feel like we
should be better citizens. We are the reason that law
enforcement feels like they need to be watching us all
the time.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
That's the truth.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
If we followed the law and we weren't d bags
about everything, we wouldn't have this this privacy creep going on.
So we brought it on ourselves, is what you're saying.
One hundred percent brought it on ourselves. And then what
happens is you get cameras and people go, well, I'm
not gonna stop breaking the law. I have to figure
out how to get around the camera.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
It's like it's sort of like serial killers. Serial killers
used to be great. Being a serial killer. Oh imagine
being Jack the Ripper back in the day. As long
as nobody saw you doing it, you were getting away.
If nobody actually witnessed you doing it, no DNA fingerprinting,

(25:09):
they couldn't find fibers, they couldn't search your apartment and
go oh oh, we found a speck of blood that
we were able to match this something. Being a serial
killer used to be a pretty easy pastime if that
was your thing. Then we started getting good at catching
serial killers. We started developing technologies, right, we got blood testing.
We can match blood types, and then we started being

(25:31):
able to do DNA. We can match carpet fibers. I
was listening my wife had one of those real crime
shows on, and they busted a guy because they actually
matched the dog hair from the victim in the murderer's car.
And there was no reason for the murderer to ever
have that dog in the car or somebody that had
the dog hair on them, But they found a dog
hair in the guy's car and that was evidence that

(25:52):
they used.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
To lock him up.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Right, I mean, we have really advanced on our crime
fighting technologies.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
And did the serial killers say it's just.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Not worth it anymore, It's just too tough to be
a serial killer nowadays.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Nope, Nope.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
They went full dexter and actually figured out how to
beat the blood splattered scientists so that they wouldn't get caught.
We bring it upon ourselves, and law enforcement says, we're
going to get better at stopping it, and criminals go,
we're going to get better at criminally. When it comes
to having all of these cameras, we say, look, we're
getting better at stopping it.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
And again I don't like them.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
But if I resolve and say, okay, we're going to
do this, what is the best way to monitor these cameras.
You got eyes on every corner with the cameras, but
you don't have enough eyes on the cameras themselves. You
don't have enough eyes on the video feeds. And I thought,
what if you just started live streaming. Think about this.

(26:50):
People will stare at these video feeds, these streams all
day long, just in case something happens. I mean, we
will stare at condor eggs lie in the nest for
weeks because we don't want to miss the hatching. People
will stare at these things. There's no reason you can't
have volunteer creepers watching the surveillance cameras. I think I'm joking.

(27:14):
That's coming you, mark my words, that is coming. And
we're not as far away as you think. Mark my words. Mark, Oh,
they've been marked. Believe me.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Good.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
You know the thing about those shows is that they're
fantasies that make the total surveillance police state look fun. Well,
it kind of is if you are if you're in
the police state, lause you're not somebody who's not part
of law enforcement. Yeah, if you're on one end of it,
it could occasionally be fun, but for the rest of
us not so much. Think of all the voyeurs out
there that would just stare at these cameras in case

(27:46):
they can see something.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
They'd be everywhere. People would watch this.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
You'd have amateur crime fighters watching cameras all day and
calling in tips when it happens, and then your your
real time intelligence center could zone in on that camera
and you know, gather evidence in the moment. Yeah, except
you know it's going to be some guy in India, right, Well,
if we farm it out, yeah yeah, yeah. Of course

(28:11):
Americans are too lazy to watch crime stop.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, that's exactly it.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, speaking of crime and trying to put an end
to it, some criminals have gone on to using disguises.
Some disguises are better than others. And one disguise that
people were using in order to get away with crime,
m probably they they should get a refund from the
costume shop.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
That is next.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
You're listening too Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI six Chris Marriland from.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
O Kelly KFI AM six forty. Listen anytime on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. You know a fundattle aside here
because I appreciate the foosh, the music selection, the selection there.
So Tech Nugent has some property in the in my
county of origin, in northern Michigan, and he saw a

(29:05):
hunter up there and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Sister Kissing country.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
It's exactly where you would expect Ted Newton to spend
his spare time. But the legend of Fred Behar is
kind of a thing among hunters in my home area.
Then he just sang a song about it, which is
fun interesting, isn't that the small world stuff?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, I'd like to.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Tell you about somebody else, a little closer to home here,
a guy by the name of Cornelius Johnson. You probably
don't know Cornelius Studio. So Cornelius was a farmer. He
was in the Sunment area, La County. He was a
farmer back in the early twentieth century, all right, And
he had his crops out and the crops were being destroyed,

(29:48):
and he went out and he was trying to figure
out what's destroying. It's obviously an animal destroying my crops.
And he saw bear tracks and so he's kind of
free out. Uh oh, we've got a bear. And he
had never seen a bear before, but he saw these
bear tracks, so he knew that there was one nearby.
So he tracked it. He tracked this bear. It took

(30:11):
him a few days and he shot the bear. He
killed it. It was a two hundred and fifty pound
California grizzly and by all accounts, it is the last
sighting of a California grizzly in southern California. And bring
that up because it makes what a couple of criminals

(30:32):
did a little suspect. Now maybe you saw the video,
maybe you have it. It's impressive. You got a couple
of guys who decided they wanted to collect on some
insurance money and what did they do. They made it
look like a bear had broken into their rolls Royce

(30:55):
and destroyed it. The problem is they didn't know the
story of Cornelius Johnson from nineteen sixteen.

Speaker 11 (31:02):
It's one of the most bizarre cases of insurance fraud
we have ever reported somebody dressed up in a bear
suit vandalizing cars in Lake Arrowhead. The suspects provided their
insurance company with this video, claiming that a real bear
entered their Rolls Royce Ghost and tore up the luxury car.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Well tonight, yeah, No.

Speaker 11 (31:21):
Four LA residents have been arrested and charged with insurance
fraud and conspiracy. They're also accused of trying to defraud
two different insurance companies by damaging two other vehicles, both
of them Mercedes. Investigators say the suspects defrauded the companies
out of one hundred and forty one thousand dollars. Officials
with the California Department of Insurance calling the crackdown Operation
bear Claw.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
So these guys ripped up the Rolls Royce. They also
tore up he said, a Mercedes. There were two Mercedes.
One of them was an AMG. And if you're unfamiliar
with the cars, Mercedes is a beautiful car. The AMG
is kind of their sport class and they are great.

(32:02):
So that was a twenty fifteen G sixty three AMG.
I believe the G sixty three is kind of that
big off road looking thing. And then a twenty twenty
two E.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Three, p.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Fifty, which is just a nice classy sedan, and they
tore it up. They put on a bear costume, tore
up these beautiful cars, and then tried to collect insurance
money on that. The problem is, again, they didn't know
Cornelius Johnson had killed the last bear more than one
hundred years ago, and so they did a little search

(32:31):
of the homes of these these guys, and they found
a bear costume. And when they said meat clause, they're
talking about the you've probably seen them at barbecues.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
They use them to kind of tear up you know, you.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Barbecue up some pork or whatever and you kind of
shred it, get the shredded pork. So they use those,
that's what they had in their hands, to make the
claw marks in the car and to tear up the
upholstery and such.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
So they did that.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
The footage, to their credit, the footage is a little
bit grainy, and so you can't necessarily you can't necessarily
tell that it's somebody in a bear costume. Although if
you know that there aren't any bears around, you start
looking for signs and you say, wait a minute, bears

(33:22):
don't look like that and yeah no, So it didn't
take long for them to buss these guys, and that's
exactly what happened. So the Insurance Fraud Division started doing
some investigating and they went, yeah, this is not a bear,
this is somebody in a costume, and it's a bad fraud.

(33:42):
Once again, we have criminals doing stupid things and bringing
this upon ourselves. But do you know what it gave
us an opportunity to do is to revisit Cornelius Johnson
and hopefully you never forget that the last California Grizzly
who's on the flag was killed by Cornelius Johnson. Last
one other California. There was another one in Tulair County

(34:02):
in nineteen twenty two.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah.

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